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Speaker 1: The few days leading up to Saturday, January twenty first

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Speaker 1: Shortly after the Wednesday shooting, a flyer went out calling

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Speaker 1: for a gathering at Underground Atlanta on Saturday, January twenty first,

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Speaker 1: and to wear black clothes in morning. This is it

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Speaker 1: could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis, and I arrived at

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Speaker 1: Underground Atlanta just a bit before five pm. The crowd

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Speaker 1: was still slowly grown, and a bunch of big news

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Speaker 1: cameras were filling up the central area. As more people

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Speaker 1: filtered in, some who knew Tort went up in front

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Speaker 1: of everyone to share memories of Torti Ghita and talk

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Speaker 1: about the continuing fight to defend the forest.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, we're all here because Tort was an amazing person

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Speaker 2: and their life meant a lot. But Tort also shared

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Speaker 2: something in common with all of us, and that was

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Speaker 2: the values and things that they were fighting for, and

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Speaker 2: all of us are fighting for a great content. We

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Speaker 2: all have it in common, but it makes us all targets.

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Speaker 2: They will always target us because they don't believe in

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Speaker 2: the things that we believe in, and they will always

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Speaker 2: be after us. And we all have to stand here

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Speaker 2: and stay together and stay resilient, to fight for what

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Speaker 2: we believe in, and never let Towort's memory go without honor.

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Speaker 3: If they would kill an innocent person like Torque, someone

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Speaker 3: who loved their community, they will stop to kill us.

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Speaker 3: They won't stop to kill everyone in that forest. They

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Speaker 3: won't stop to kill anyone who defies them. And that

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Speaker 3: is pretty much all I had to say.

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Speaker 1: A few people from the Atlanta Resistance Medics, a local

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Speaker 1: street medical group dedicated to the liberation of medicine and

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Speaker 1: providing medical resources for underprivileged and marginalized people, spoke about

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Speaker 1: Torti Ghita, who was a member of their collective.

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Speaker 4: If there's one thing that we want people to remember

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Speaker 4: Tourt for, it's if they were somebody who protected the

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Speaker 4: people around them, who went through the training along with

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Speaker 4: the rest of us, to be able to provide medical

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Speaker 4: resources to the people that were around them. They may

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Speaker 4: not have access to those no matter what else the

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Speaker 4: news says about tort they were a protector. Everything they

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Speaker 4: did was out of love. Everything they did was out

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Speaker 4: of hope for a better world. And I don't care

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Speaker 4: what the police say. I don't care what the media says.

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Speaker 4: I don't care what anybody says. Torpe was out here

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Speaker 4: working for a better world. They may want to smear

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Speaker 4: them as an extremist, they were not. They were out

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Speaker 4: here protecting their fellow people. And that's what we want

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Speaker 4: everybody to remember about them. Just say they were out

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Speaker 4: here trying to build a better world, no matter what

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Speaker 4: anybody else says.

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Speaker 5: All right, I'd love y'all to repeat after me, Art Doug.

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Speaker 5: La lu Ja siege, La lu Ja Siege is a

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Speaker 5: medic in our collective. They were a forest defender. They

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Speaker 5: were a friend, They were funny kind Sarta Vida was

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Speaker 5: constantly thinking of others. They were constantly trying to protect

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Speaker 5: other people, trying to protect the forest, trying to protect

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Speaker 5: everyone who was marginalized. They centered voices on them who

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Speaker 5: They recognized that our struggles are interconnected. They recognized that

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Speaker 5: cop City will never be built. They died defending that forest.

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Speaker 5: The memory Oftito that I keep returning to is after

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Speaker 5: the police destroyed the gazebo at Leilani People's Park in

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Speaker 5: the parking lot. They were at a meeting and they said, yeah,

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Speaker 5: so the cops think they can destroy our morale, they can't. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Tartuita was one of the most resilient, strongest people. Well

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Speaker 5: I know, they hugged everyone. They were so kind and

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Speaker 5: so giving, and even as the state tries to assassinate

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Speaker 5: their character in addition to their body, they were a

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Speaker 5: freedom fighter. They were a person that I am honored

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Speaker 5: to have known that I am honored to have called

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Speaker 1: About four hundred people eventually gathered around Underground Atlanta. It

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Speaker 6: Everything in modern life serves to atomize you, to make

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Speaker 6: you feel like you were an individual, divorce from any

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Speaker 6: The fact that you're here means that you're fighting against that.

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Speaker 6: Don't let go of that. That is powerful. And that's

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Speaker 7: All right, So I'm sure all of you are fairly

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Speaker 7: upset about this. I am Tort was a friend of mine.

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Speaker 7: They were a friend of the community. Their death, their

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Speaker 8: Vain, fucking top city fuck at all.

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Speaker 1: By five point thirty, about half the crowd gathered at

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Speaker 1: March is starting just left Underground Atlanta. Around three hundred

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Speaker 1: in the front that reads they can't kill us All.

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Speaker 1: Firework banner at the front that says trees give life,

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Speaker 1: police take it. After just a minute of marching down

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Speaker 5: Stop stop doges.

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Speaker 9: Some more small.

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Speaker 1: Fireworks betting launched in the sky. Banners getting moved to

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Speaker 1: the PSL people who were gathered at the underground tried

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Speaker 1: The ps AND people are gonna lead everyone into like

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Speaker 1: quickly they turned around. Well, other other people turned around.

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Speaker 1: It was like, no, we're not going that way. They're

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Speaker 1: Right beside the Coca Cola sign on Marietta. The march

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Speaker 1: gutted out by years of the Atlanta Way neoliberal policies

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Speaker 9: In black, all of all, all the people in bloc.

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Speaker 9: It's looking more just like a.

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Speaker 1: Large, large, massive people in bloc now have not seen

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Speaker 9: It's really unclear.

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Speaker 1: How Atlanta Police argus is going to respond to this.

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Speaker 1: Got some flares, a lot more of those smoke fireworks

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Speaker 9: A cardboard tube shooting smoke out.

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Speaker 1: The block continued to travel north Road. Flares and fireworks

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Speaker 1: up on walls with phrases like rip little turtle and

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Speaker 1: stop cop city the march. The march is now approaching

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Speaker 1: an Atlanta police vehicle who's trying to back up the

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Speaker 1: cop does not one of the cop cop car is right

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Speaker 1: in the middle of where the march is gonna go.

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Speaker 1: They're like less than one hundred feet away, Just one

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Speaker 1: they are. They are trying to back out of the street.

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Speaker 1: The march has the trees give life, Please take it banner.

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Speaker 1: There's a big cardboard cutout of a tree right behind it.

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Speaker 1: Police have their lights turned on. Now looks like the

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Speaker 1: leaving rather quickly. The sun was just starting to set

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Speaker 9: They've stopped in front of.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Police Foundation headquarters.

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Speaker 9: People are thrown throwing stuff at the windows and doors.

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Speaker 1: Broken windows at the Atlanta Police Foundation headquarters.

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Speaker 9: The people funding cop City firework thrown.

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Speaker 1: Umbrellas moved in to block local news cameras as windows shattered.

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Speaker 1: Rocks emerged from backpacks and smashed into the front of

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Speaker 1: decent bit. March is definitely tightening up. A lot of

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Speaker 1: I feel a lot of police cars right beside the march.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing they're going to pull in in front of

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Speaker 1: their windows broken, fireworks.

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Speaker 9: From under another firework.

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Speaker 1: Another Atlanta Please vehicle had their windows smashed.

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Speaker 9: So there's two.

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Speaker 1: The two that was behind the march, the two Atlanta

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Speaker 9: This got hit.

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Speaker 1: Wells Fargo, one of the main cop city funders, received

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Speaker 1: special love and attention from the block. The Atlanta Area

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Speaker 1: president for Wells Fargo. Mitch Grahl is also on the

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Speaker 1: board of trustees for the Atlanta Police Foundation. A few

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Speaker 1: other banks hit around this area. Wells Fargo one of

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Speaker 1: the contributors to the Atlanta Police Foundations, one of their

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Speaker 1: big funders and backers. A lot of the media here

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Speaker 1: very very thirsty to get to get stuff of, you know,

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Speaker 1: put into people breaking windows and shit. It was kind

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Speaker 1: Atlanta police finally arrived and made their move.

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Speaker 9: Police are in front of in front of the march.

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Speaker 1: Now please in front of the rough march. People might

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Speaker 1: be turning around. They want to do a full like

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Multiple cop cars are approaching the march from the front.

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Speaker 1: Unclear what the crowd is gonna do. Well, Atlanta p

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Speaker 1: D is now now approaching the march.

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Speaker 9: They're getting closer.

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Speaker 1: They're going after one of the banners, dragging somebody down,

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Speaker 1: pulling someone to the ground. They're chasing people. One person's

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Speaker 1: Officers started randomly tackling and arresting anyone they could get

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Speaker 10: With out street direcree chan movie dispersed, disperse, get, disburse.

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Speaker 1: Please getting more aggressive, pushing a lot of people. Footage

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Speaker 1: and audio of these violent arrests were shared by the

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Speaker 1: Defend the Forest account, Unicorn Riot and myself your numbers.

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Speaker 9: I hear screams coming from multiple directions. Large.

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Speaker 1: Looks like the march kind of split in two.

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Speaker 1: The individuals targeted likely committed no crime other than being

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Speaker 1: It looks like and Atlanta PD vehicle is on fire.

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Speaker 9: The whole than fireworks, is my bomb going off?

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Speaker 1: Bombs or discount New Year's Eve fireworks? You choose all.

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Speaker 11: A protester who was subsequently arrested was witnesses state they

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Speaker 10: You want a car, you know, yeah, I will these protests.

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Speaker 12: They bloom a damn car and I ain't able to

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Speaker 9: They're now saying GBI suck.

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Speaker 4: GBI is a Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

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Speaker 1: Mayor Andre Dickens and the chief of Police gave a

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Speaker 13: My message is simple to those who seek to continue

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Speaker 13: We have arrested several of them this evening, and Chief

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Speaker 1: During the press conference, the Chief of Police clarified that

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Speaker 14: And so it doesn't take a rocket scientist or an

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Speaker 15: Setting fires not protest.

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Speaker 14: That is terrorism, and that they will be charged accordingly,

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Speaker 1: I brought up the police chief's comments to a few

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Speaker 9: Read it before.

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Speaker 1: On Yeah, anyway, they alanted police chiefs said that breaking

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Speaker 12: Sure, I think the Least and Andre Dickens are doing

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Speaker 16: You can call it like property destruction and call it terrorism.

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Speaker 15: Is a very like.

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Speaker 12: Specific political strategy that exists. I think the right wing

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Speaker 15: And it would be worth calling that, like, you.

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Speaker 12: Know, because Defend the Forest doesn't have a BodyCount. The

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Speaker 12: whereas Defend the Forest has not strucken out violently against

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Speaker 15: You cannot do.

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Speaker 16: Violence to property. You cannot be violent towards a police car.

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Speaker 12: It's the same way that Andre Dickens is now getting

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Speaker 15: That like fire calling fireworks explosives.

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Speaker 12: It's like, yes, there are objects that explode, but this

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Speaker 16: Call something terrorism, the money just pours on.

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Speaker 12: You get funding, you get justification to do things like that,

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Speaker 12: That makes continuing and movement incredibly hard. That's a really

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Speaker 12: Some of reform.

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Speaker 1: I talked with Peter about how if the police are

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Speaker 1: viewing vandalism or destruction of inanimate objects as domestic terrorism,

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Speaker 8: That juxtaposition of what the police consider violence, and like,

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Speaker 12: To me?

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Speaker 8: This demonstrates what they see like as valuable. And also

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Speaker 8: this demonstrates the police state and the corporation's inability to

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Speaker 8: I think they fear the woods in part because it

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Speaker 1: Cricket also had something to say on this topic, well.

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Speaker 17: And what is destroying a forest? What is destroying a person?

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Speaker 17: They're more upset about the destruction of property than the

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Speaker 17: And that does not seem to measure up against some

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Speaker 17: I mean, obviously that these rhetorical questions when I'm preaching

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Speaker 1: Noah mentioned the juxtaposition of broken windows being terrorism, but

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Speaker 12: Right, So it's a clear double standard in the same

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Speaker 15: Call us as their enemies, the meaning.

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Speaker 16: Of words that matter to them.

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Speaker 12: What matters is being able to get good sound bites

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Speaker 15: That this is where they're going to stake their flag

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Speaker 1: From the start of the movement, the police have aggressively

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Speaker 11: It's not a huge surprise in terms like terrorism and

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Speaker 11: pejoratively throwing around the term terrorists in response to I

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Speaker 11: catch these terrorists soon. The terrorists who graffiti to building.

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Speaker 11: It has also shown up in a couple different public

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 11: Committee members who are pro Public Safety Training Center, anti

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Speaker 1: The dangerous escalation of protest to suppression is not limited

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Speaker 11: Some of our open records requests have even shown that

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Speaker 11: Sometimes those very simple emails of hey, I don't think

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Speaker 1: This is the anti democratic chilling effect in action. Politicians

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Speaker 1: public opposition and scare anyone concerned about police militarization and

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Speaker 1: climate change away from protesting. It's a crude attempt to

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Speaker 1: use as powerful tools as possible to crush opposition and

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Speaker 1: remove the protest from public spotlight while creating cover for

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Speaker 1: intensive suppression of protest movements. Police are making an example

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Speaker 1: out of people by trying to pin the actions of

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Speaker 1: autonomous individuals in a decentralized movement on anyone that was

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Speaker 1: unlucky enough to cross paths with the police by threatening

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Speaker 1: thirty five years in prison. Let's talk a bit about

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Speaker 1: the role of the domestic terrorism charges in how they

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Speaker 1: are being applied, because they're not even being applied to

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Speaker 1: people that are like tied to specific acts like use. Specifically,

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Speaker 1: we have evidence that you burned down an escap like

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Speaker 1: it like a like a construction equipment. That's that's not

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Speaker 1: what they're being used, not even being used for. Like

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Speaker 1: we saw we saw you break this window, that's not

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Speaker 1: even how you're being used. Like the people restaurant Saturday,

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Speaker 1: all six of them got the same exact charges. Yes,

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Speaker 1: how can all six people have done all the exact

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Speaker 1: same thing? So they're obviously not being used and they

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Speaker 1: type of like factual evidence based away it's all about

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Speaker 1: like us trying to turn the movement itself into a

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Speaker 1: criminal association.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, APD has even said that themselves in a public

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Speaker 11: meeting that's supposed to kind of like provide advice on

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Speaker 11: like how the public wants this project built. You know,

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Speaker 11: they in the December meeting, which I think took place

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Speaker 11: a day after after those raids, they they bragged about

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Speaker 11: pulling someone over illegally for for filming the police. They

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Speaker 11: said they were very proud of themselves for taking that

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Speaker 11: person to jail, and then they they just blatantly said

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Speaker 11: that anyone arrested for this in connection with this movement

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Speaker 11: will get a domestic terrorism charge, which creates an equivalency

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Speaker 11: that being opposed to this project is domestic terrorism. You know,

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Speaker 11: the chief of police Darren Sheerbaum went before cameras on Saturday,

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Speaker 11: and I think pretty much verbatim said, breaking a glass

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Speaker 11: window that is terrorism. A lot of people have opinions

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Speaker 11: about how to protest, right, but what people have conveyed

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Speaker 11: to us is that even those who are, you know,

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Speaker 11: kind of horrified by property damage, it's just not domestic terrorism.

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Speaker 11: It's just not being opposed to the police, wanting the

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Speaker 11: police to do something differently is not terrorism.

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Speaker 1: The Atlanta Solidarity Fund said of the six people charged

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Speaker 1: after Saturday's protest, quote, protest, even disobedient protest, is not terrorism.

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Speaker 1: It's tragic that we're at a point where this even

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Speaker 1: needs to be said, but that makes it all the

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Speaker 1: more important that the public speak out against this divisive

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Speaker 1: and dangerous rhetoric. We have reason to believe these activists

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Speaker 1: were arrested at random during the march. All six faced

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Speaker 1: the same blanket charges. They are being held responsible for

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Speaker 1: committing the same crime by virtue of simply being present

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Speaker 1: at a protest where property damage occurred. Unquote. Twenty people

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Speaker 1: have been charged with felonies under Georgia's domestic terrorism laws

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Speaker 1: since last December. Police affidavits have detailed the alleged acts

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Speaker 1: of so called terror, which include quote criminally trespassing on

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Speaker 1: posted land, sleeping in a forest, sleeping in a hammock

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Speaker 1: with another defendant being known members of a prison abolitionist

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Speaker 1: movement unquote, and aligning themselves with defend the Lanta forest

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Speaker 1: by quote occupying a treehouse while wearing a gas mask

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Speaker 1: and camouflage clothing unquote. A review of the twenty arrests

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Speaker 1: showed that none of those arrested and slapped with terrorism

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Speaker 1: charges are accused of seriously injuring anyone. Nine are alleged

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Speaker 1: to have committed no specific illegal acts beyond misdemeanor trespassing. Instead,

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Speaker 1: mere association with a group committed to defending the forest

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Speaker 1: appears to be the foundation for declaring them terrorists. The

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Speaker 1: seven people arrested during the police raid where the Georgia

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Speaker 1: State Patrol shot and killed Tortigita were given a bond

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Speaker 1: amount totaling one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars. Escalating repression

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Speaker 1: is taking form as egregious bail amounts for protesters, inflated charges,

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Speaker 1: and as last month saw the killing of an activist,

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Speaker 1: The environmental justice attorney Stephen Donzinger said. For weeks these

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Speaker 1: people were called terrorists, which is a complete misuse of

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Speaker 1: the word. The police have been conditioned to believe these

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Speaker 1: people are terrorists, and what do you do with terrorists

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Speaker 1: in the United States?

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Speaker 9: You kill them.

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Speaker 1: It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy unquote. A whole bunch

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Speaker 1: of bail information has got released for the six people

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Speaker 1: arrested at the protest in downtown Atlanta on Saturday, January

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Speaker 1: twenty first, and it's pretty high. It's the highest bail

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Speaker 1: for a protest that I've ever seen. Two people that

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Speaker 1: are slightly more local to the area were granted three

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five thousand dollars each for their bonds.

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Speaker 9: That's over seven.

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Speaker 1: Hundred thousand dollars with ankle monitoring and a twenty four

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Speaker 1: hour curfew, so that's a lot of four Other people

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Speaker 1: who were arrested were determined to be from too far

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Speaker 1: out of town and deemed flight risks by the judge

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Speaker 1: and they were completely denied bond. So they're going to

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Speaker 1: be held in jail and perpetuity until both further legal

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Speaker 1: challenges like this is going to get, you know, pushed

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Speaker 1: up to a higher level judge. But who knows how

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Speaker 1: long they're going to be in pre trial detention now

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Speaker 1: for pretty pretty ridiculous charges like this arson riot, like felony,

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Speaker 1: jaywalking essentially like pedestrian.

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Speaker 15: Of them, the mesty terrorism terrorism.

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Speaker 1: When they're going over the bill hearing, there was there

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Speaker 1: was they were talking about how like this hearing is

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Speaker 1: not for going over evidence, this is this is this

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Speaker 1: isn't for Actually, yeah, they're they're not. They're not interested

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Speaker 1: in dealing with what the facts actually were because there's

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Speaker 1: no evidence that any of any of the people arrested

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Speaker 1: did anything wrong besides march in the street, which has

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Speaker 1: been a staple of the history of Atlanta for almost

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Speaker 1: like almost a century. There's no absolutely no evidence but

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Speaker 1: that that doesn't matter, and that's not really the point either.

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Speaker 1: The point is this is a brutal form of punishment

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Speaker 1: and a deterrent for other people to say that if

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Speaker 1: you're going to go to a protest, if you're going

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Speaker 1: to go to a march, you don't need to do

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Speaker 1: anything at all, and we'll give you bond that's that's

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Speaker 1: worth almost four hundred thousand dollars, poor person, or we'll

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Speaker 1: just hold you until until this case gets litigated.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so if you.

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Speaker 12: Want to come from out of town to just go

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Speaker 12: to a march, you could do nothing else and get

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Speaker 12: arrested for rest lack with a domestics and then they

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Speaker 12: decide that because you're.

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Speaker 16: From I don't know, an hour and a half.

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Speaker 15: Away and just happen to be across the state line,

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Speaker 15: that flight rest are going to be held in definitely trial,

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Speaker 15: which I mean, if there's one across system that this

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Speaker 15: could be we could.

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Speaker 1: Be talking years, years, eighteen months before before trial. If

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Speaker 1: people are wanted, right, they obviously they want people to

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Speaker 1: just plead guilty and not not have go to trial,

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Speaker 1: which is nonsense because there's no evidence. But if it

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Speaker 1: does get carried out all the way to trial, that

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Speaker 1: could take over a year. That could be just being

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Speaker 1: being held for things that you clearly didn't do. But

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Speaker 1: because the police and prosecutors have decided to use these

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Speaker 1: intense charges as a deterrent, it's just extremely blatant, like abusive,

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Speaker 1: abusive legal system, abusive power. But I mean it's you know,

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Speaker 1: I say abuse, but like this is the way it's

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Speaker 1: also designed, Like this is this is the purpose of prothectors,

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Speaker 1: this is the purpose of police they're doing their job

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Speaker 1: as it's supposed to be.

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Speaker 12: They're just like make it unfeasible for people to participate

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Speaker 12: in dissonance and to make it so any like any

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Speaker 12: chance getting for people.

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Speaker 15: It's made so.

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Speaker 12: Even for most people, Like looking at an amount like

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Speaker 12: three hundred and fifty five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 15: It's just an impossible amount of money to come up with.

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Speaker 9: It's like.

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Speaker 15: It's so out of the.

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Speaker 12: Realm of what is possible for so many, like normal

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Speaker 12: everyday people who are participating in aunts of protest that

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Speaker 12: it's just it's just design people for as lar as pass.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not even people who like this. This would be

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Speaker 1: in many ways justice rrificus. Is if these charges were

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Speaker 1: from people who were like in the forest, people like

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Speaker 1: in a downtown marching like this is like downtown marching.

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Speaker 12: Were like the most serious thing that happened was that

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Speaker 12: a car spontaneously like that is it wasn't it it

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Speaker 12: was there's no evidence to any of these people anyway.

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Speaker 1: It was even noted inside during during these hearings that

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Speaker 1: many of these people were arrested before the car even

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Speaker 1: caught fire, Like.

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Speaker 12: The Jurgans just decided that again they were not ready

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Speaker 12: to live it bots of any kind, that this was

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Speaker 12: not and making it so obvious that the point of

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Speaker 12: this is not to in any way treat this with

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Speaker 12: any realms like reality what happened, but just to make

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Speaker 12: sure that we are that people are as punished as

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Speaker 12: possible for any actions taken by a group that they

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Speaker 12: were likely just even in the vicinity.

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Speaker 1: Of a dantin Affidavid's for the seven people arrested at

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Speaker 1: the deadly police raid on January eighteenth, in which Tortigito

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Speaker 1: was killed, begin by alleging that the defendants were quote

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Speaker 1: participating in actions as a part of the Defend the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Forest group, a group classified by the United States

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Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security as domestic violent extremists unquote, but

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Speaker 1: a DHS spokesperson has responded to media inquiries by saying, quote,

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Speaker 1: the Department of Homeland Security does not classify or designate

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Speaker 1: any groups as domestic violent extremists unquote. The Atlanta Solidarity

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Speaker 1: Fund responded to this news by saying, quote, when police

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Speaker 1: brought terrorism charges against Stop Copcity protesters, they justified it

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Speaker 1: by claiming that Defend the Atlanta Forest had been designated

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Speaker 1: a domestic violent extremist organization.

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Speaker 9: This was a lie.

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Speaker 1: DHS has never designated any movement aligned organization in this way.

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Speaker 1: What does this mean? It suggests that police and prosecutors

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Speaker 1: have been lying not just to the public but to

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Speaker 1: judges in an effort to justify outrageous, sensational charges against activists.

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Speaker 1: This cannot be tolerated in a free society. The public

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Speaker 1: has a long process ahead of unraveling the tangle of lies, distortions,

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Speaker 1: and cover ups that the police, prosecutors, and their private

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Speaker 1: backers have woven to suppress the right to protest. We

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Speaker 1: are determined to follow that thread to its end. Injustice

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Speaker 1: cannot go unchallenged. To date, the Atlanta Solidarity Fund has

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Speaker 1: supported over sixty people arrested for protesting the proposed Copcity development,

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Speaker 1: just a few days before the killing of Tortigita. It

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Speaker 1: could happen. Here released an interview with people from the

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Speaker 1: Solidarity Fund and Anti Repression Committee if you want to

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Speaker 1: learn more about those organizations. The Solidarity Fund is dedicated

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Speaker 1: to continue supporting protesters in Atlanta, but with the unprecedented

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Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand dollars bail for just two people, they

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Speaker 1: need help to continue supporting activists with bail and legal counsel,

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Speaker 1: while they are also supporting civil litigation against unjust arrests

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Speaker 1: and police violence, including an independent investigation into the death

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Speaker 1: of Torteguita. In a statement released after the bail hearing,

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Solidarity Fund said, quote, the arrested protesters and

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Speaker 1: all other future protesters targeted for political activity in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: need your help. Please host fundraisers, reach out to your networks,

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Speaker 1: and donate to the Atlanta Solidarity Fund. We especially encourage

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Speaker 1: you to consider becoming a recurring donor. Solidarity means all

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Speaker 1: of us supporting each other for the long haul, until

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Speaker 1: we are all free. Unquote. If the state is successful

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Speaker 1: in creating this precedent of domestic terrorism, protesters across the

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Speaker 1: country could be facing similar speech chilling charges. Activists and

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Speaker 1: civil rights lawyers have called for everyone to strongly reject

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Speaker 1: this extreme level of repression here and now, before where

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Speaker 1: it becomes the norm for activists in every movement. What

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Speaker 1: happens here will have legal implications for the whole nation.

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Speaker 11: It creates and it creates fear, It creates a chilling effect.

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Speaker 11: It was after the December raids a lot of folks

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Speaker 11: in the community. We're really questioning what was next, and

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Speaker 11: it is scary to think about, but it's been really

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Speaker 11: heartening how people have seen through the bullshit. Right, Atlanta

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Speaker 11: has an incredible resilience, and so does this movement, even

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Speaker 11: with domestic terrorism in mind.

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Speaker 1: Peter also mentioned how the increased charges have inadvertently shown

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Speaker 1: just how strong the community is. After domestic terrorism charges

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Speaker 1: first first got laid out in December, what was people's

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Speaker 1: reaction to that, because that's a pretty substantial, like legal

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Speaker 1: state repression effort. You know, you're in the woods, you

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Speaker 1: hear that your friends are now getting these ridiculous charges, Like,

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Speaker 1: how does that change what's on the ground.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the terrorism charges. Well, I'll say I

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Speaker 8: was out of town when the terrorism charges happened, and

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Speaker 8: hearing about those was actually what motivated me to come

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Speaker 8: back to Atlanta and move back into the woods because

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Speaker 8: I knew that the terrorism charges were a scare tactic

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Speaker 8: to try and discourage people from participating in the Woods

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Speaker 8: and the movement at large. As the repression has intensified,

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Speaker 8: and especially since the terrorism charges started coming in, the

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Speaker 8: resolve in the strength of this community has intensified. Even more,

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Speaker 8: and the increased repression has shown me the strength of

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Speaker 8: this community and also how deeply committed people are to

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Speaker 8: being a part of this fight.

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Speaker 15: No matter what.

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Speaker 1: You can go to at jail Underscore support on Twitter

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Speaker 1: for information on how to write two incarcerated protesters in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: The terrorism charges being brought against Stop Copcity protesters stem

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Speaker 1: from a twenty seventeen law passed in Georgia in the

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Speaker 1: wake of the Dylan Roof massacre. This law, allegedly created

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Speaker 1: in response to a white supremacist mass shooting targeting black people,

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Speaker 1: is being used for the first time as a bludgeon

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Speaker 1: against anti racist protesters who are fighting against the expansion

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Speaker 1: and further militarization of police facilities.

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Speaker 12: Well, the state is just also as a concept as

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Speaker 12: a whole is pretty much incapable of doing things for

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Speaker 12: altruistic means. This is the same government that are so

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Speaker 12: often used as like that completely simplifies like all issues,

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Speaker 12: for example, with like foreign mashootings in this country into

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Speaker 12: just a gun problem, to take away the abilities for

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Speaker 12: prioritize people to defend themselves by oversimplifying it into a

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Speaker 12: non ideological issue. And it's so like there's such a

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Speaker 12: clear pattern of who is perpetrating these things. It's all

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Speaker 12: like the state.

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Speaker 15: At any moment it can grab power, it.

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Speaker 12: Will do so.

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Speaker 15: And that looks better sometimes because.

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Speaker 16: It might be like going after somebody, like jelling a roof.

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Speaker 12: But it gets turned around later and used by them

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Speaker 12: to murdern you know, trying to defend the forest and

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Speaker 12: make sure that people cannot make bail, and for doing

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Speaker 12: nothing more than asking the city to not do something

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Speaker 12: that a vast majority of people Atlanta do not want

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Speaker 12: to happen.

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Speaker 1: Laws that are put into effect to stop far right

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Speaker 1: violence will inevitably be used to repress left wing movements.

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Speaker 1: Any expansion of state power will always come down the

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Speaker 1: hardest on people who are actually pushing back on the

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Speaker 1: power structures of this eight, like the police. And now

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Speaker 1: this domestic terrorism law is being used against force defenders

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Speaker 1: for mere affiliation with stop Coop City. The way the

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Speaker 1: state is using these domestic terrorism charges is relatively unprecedented

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Speaker 1: within the United States, but this stuff is not completely

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Speaker 1: unheard of. It's new for white Americans who are protesting.

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Speaker 1: It's new in a very specific context, but it's not

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Speaker 1: new for many other people who've experienced state repression and

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Speaker 1: have experienced state repression in other countries around the world.

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Speaker 12: You know. It's it's very similar to the way that

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Speaker 12: like the US would I mean, we had a lot

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Speaker 12: of a lot of people who are in the US

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Speaker 12: global in thousands of people who you know, so many

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Speaker 12: of them are just the US Army rules into a

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Speaker 12: country and like all of these people are terrorists.

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Speaker 15: They do not have time to litigate the facts.

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Speaker 12: They're looking at people as flight rests with new evidence,

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Speaker 12: with unsistantially that claims to bout affiliations to whatever the

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Speaker 12: hell it is, and then they you know, and they

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Speaker 12: most extreme examples, end up detaining Gontanimo for the next

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Speaker 12: twenty years or in you know.

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Speaker 15: Bringing back to the connection to all of this.

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Speaker 12: To the idea, it's the similar ways that the idea

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Speaker 12: of persecutes their word of the Pastinian peoples of waging

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Speaker 12: a war of population and then taking as much, like

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Speaker 12: using as much force against the people who choose to

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Speaker 12: fight that state power, and then.

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Speaker 15: Just arresting huge numbers of people for claiming that they're

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Speaker 15: like affiliated with AMAS or something for litis, living in

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Speaker 15: the same neighborhood and.

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Speaker 16: Just throwing the Kyoa.

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Speaker 15: This is very similar to tactics that we've seen used across.

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Speaker 16: The word, specifically during the Global War on Terror, just.

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Speaker 12: To lock up huge numbers of people with impunity, without

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Speaker 12: the ability for people to get proper or legal representation,

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Speaker 12: or for there ever to be a moment to litigate

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Speaker 12: the facts of what happened. And it's a really troubling

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Speaker 12: development to.

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Speaker 15: Happening here.

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Speaker 12: This has been so destructive in other countries all across

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Speaker 12: the world, and we should all be extremely concerned that

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Speaker 12: this is happening anywhere, not just that it's touched in

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Speaker 12: the US now, but this type of legal system should

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Speaker 12: find comfort anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 1: One of the topics of the original It Could Happen

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Speaker 1: Here series was Thucau's boomerang. The idea was also brought

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Speaker 1: up during multiple conversations I had in Atlanta. It's about

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Speaker 1: how the types of imperialist and colonialist violence that are

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Speaker 1: done in other countries don't just go away. They get

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Speaker 1: transported back to the homeland. This boomerang effect resulted in

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Speaker 1: a whole series of colonial models being brought back to

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Speaker 1: the quote unquote West so that it could endlessly practice

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Speaker 1: something resembling colonialism or an internal colonialism on itself. The

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Speaker 1: forces of extreme gentrification can be seen as one of

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Speaker 1: these frontlines. In that way, it only makes sense that

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Speaker 1: this is happening in Atlanta to such an extreme degree.

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Speaker 12: So like the idea of like when it comes to

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Speaker 12: frougos boomerang is that any any strategies, tactics, equipment.

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Speaker 15: The US is the best example of really has been

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Speaker 15: tactics and equipment.

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Speaker 12: Thus far that are used overseas in a country's colonial

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Speaker 12: wars imperial wars will one day find their way returned

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Speaker 12: to the core of said empire.

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Speaker 15: To subjugate their own dissidents and their own people.

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Speaker 12: The best example of this in the US was milatorized

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Speaker 12: police and Copsit is a huge example of this.

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Speaker 15: We've seen a return of weapons and equipment from the

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Speaker 15: god to US police, just asibly what we.

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Speaker 3: Saw a.

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Speaker 15: Man murdering and his trailer by.

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Speaker 12: Small team using their vision goggles and equipment that looks

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Speaker 12: like it came off of like Army Rangers in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 12: Like it is, it is a return like the tactics

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Speaker 12: and the equipment and the strategy and the mindset of

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Speaker 12: an occupying army come back to the center of the

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Speaker 12: empire and are used to subjepeen its people. And in

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Speaker 12: this case, comp City is a huge expansion of this

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Speaker 12: because of what it's designed to train people to do,

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Speaker 12: which is combat. And even more so, the legal system

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Speaker 12: that the US has used overseas to prosecute thousands of

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Speaker 12: people with their evidence is well being returned to prosecute.

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Speaker 15: That it is defending the forest.

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Speaker 1: The man shot by Swat in a trailer last month

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Speaker 1: did end up surviving, But what Noah is talking about

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Speaker 1: is that there is no true other, There is no

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Speaker 1: true awayness. This new military urbanism that seems to be

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Speaker 1: necessary to sustain hyper capitalist to gentrification is providing zones

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Speaker 1: of experimentation through which the state is able to try

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Speaker 1: out and hone their techniques of oppression. In my conversation

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Speaker 1: with Cricket, they talked about this phenomenon. It comes back

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Speaker 1: or it starts here and more the training ground, and

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Speaker 1: then they export it. I mean, there's it's and I

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Speaker 1: think you're absolutely right that there is no true other.

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Speaker 1: Right like that is a construct to keep us out

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Speaker 1: of solidarity with one another. That is a strategy to

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Speaker 1: keep us out of alliance. At the same table and

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Speaker 1: demanding more. I mean, it's something that I remember, I

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Speaker 1: think it was.

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Speaker 17: I think it was maybe something Buddha Edge or I

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Speaker 17: don't know, some other politician talked about in the wake

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Speaker 17: of twenty twenty, you know, saying like military weapons should

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Speaker 17: not be used against like like should not be used

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Speaker 17: in our streets or something like that. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 17: but the logical extension of that is that they should

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Speaker 17: be in other people's streets, like those are also civilians,

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Speaker 17: Like those are also people's towns and cities and homes.

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Speaker 17: Like why are we deciding that it's okay for them

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Speaker 17: to be there and not here? And obviously we're not

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Speaker 17: actually deciding that they're not okay to be here. But

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Speaker 17: I feel like even the sort of attempts to try

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Speaker 17: and address the insane militarization of the police don't rely

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Speaker 17: on that other as if this is not a global issue,

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Speaker 17: as if this is not something that affects everyone. The

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Speaker 17: Solidarity Fund has said, quote invoking terrorism is a dog

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Speaker 17: whistle calling for more police violence. Ever since nine to eleven,

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Speaker 17: American policy has been to hunt and kill terrorists by

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Speaker 17: any means. Applying this same terrorism label to activists in

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Speaker 17: our communities, is prompting police to approach protests as war zones,

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Speaker 17: prepared to kill at any time. This can be seen

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Speaker 17: in the way GSP stormed the Atlanta forest with militarized

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Speaker 17: equipment and killed Tortigita and God. I think there's also

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Speaker 17: this tendency to think of the assassination of environmental activists

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Speaker 17: as something that happens elsewhere, Like this is something that

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Speaker 17: happens in Central America, this is something that happens in

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Speaker 17: the Amazon, Like this is not something that happens in

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Speaker 17: the US. And it absolutely is something that happens in

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Speaker 17: the US. And I think, just sort of to the

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Speaker 17: name of your podcast, right, like it happens here, it's

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Speaker 17: not and it could be any of us. I think

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Speaker 17: that that's another sort of possible strategy or idea behind this,

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Speaker 17: like oh, they're outside the agitators thing of trying to

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Speaker 17: create this scary, stranger danger and trying to make people

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Speaker 17: think that the person who is murdered couldn't be them

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Speaker 17: because they're from here, Like oh, like I'm local, Like

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Speaker 17: I wouldn't have been murdered. No, Like no, absolutely not,

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Speaker 17: Like they will murder with impunity and it's really scary

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Speaker 17: and it's really enraging. Like I think it is both

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Speaker 17: to me inspiring and because if they're going to kill

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Speaker 17: us no matter what, then why not cause as much

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Speaker 17: good trouble as we can.

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Speaker 1: On Thursday, January twenty sixth, Governor Brian Kemp declared a

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Speaker 1: state of emergency in response to protests Saturday night sparked

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Speaker 1: by Tortigita's death. Under that order, one thousand National Guard

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Speaker 1: troops were mobilized to quell protests and police the streets

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Speaker 1: of Atlanta. Once again. I'll end with the words of Tortighita. Quote,

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Speaker 1: Dear comrades, we are in the trenches of the class war.

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Speaker 1: The capitalists would rather see us dead or enslaved, so

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Speaker 1: we might us to fight like hell. Billionaires are causing

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Speaker 1: a mass extinction and can only be stopped by collective action.

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Speaker 1: Copsity can and must be stopped, but we need more help.

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Speaker 1: We need people on the front lines and robust supply networks.

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Speaker 1: We need to love and support each other unquote. Now

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Speaker 1: that the war is here, how are we gonna fight it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: The rain on leaves tickling the earliest, the instruments, the melody,

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Speaker 18: we mimick. It is the sound of wind whistle, And

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Speaker 18: long before the safetyest chan and under the stars, camped

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Speaker 18: underb canopy, she sang oh song, and she was far

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Speaker 18: from silent, the virus of violence with the fragrance of

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Speaker 18: her flowers that continue to invite us a medicine materials

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