1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: On this episode of Newtsworld. My guest today had a 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: legendary career as a college football coach for forty years 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: before being elected to the US Senate in twenty twenty 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: to represent the state of Alabama, and he's joining me 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: today to discuss the crisis at the US southern border 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: and the much discussed border bill that doesn't look like 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: it will pass. Also, one of the issues he's leading 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: in the Senate includes the No Veterans Administration Resources for 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: a Legal Aliens Act, which he introduced along with Congressman 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: Mike Boasts. So I'm really pleased to welcome back my guests, 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: Senator Coach Tommy Tubberville. Tommy, thank you for joining me 12 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: on Nutsworld. 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: Thank you, speaker, thanks for having me on. Good to 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: see you again. 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: Can you share with our audience, because you really looking 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: at this just how bad the border is. 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: Oh. I tell you, you know, being a football coach 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: for years and not being in politics and who you know, 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: I thought I would kind of ease into this situation. 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: But I tell you, since Joe Biden has taken office, 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 2: it has been one disaster after another, But the one 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: that probably tops them all is his breaking the law, 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: the laws that we have on the books and the constitution, 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: and allowing for the globalist party I call them the 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: globalist Democratic Party now just to open up our so 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: called borders. And it is creating more problems than you 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: can imagine. And most people don't know a lot of 28 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: the problems. But every day there's more problems that stack up. 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: But it's gonna get worse and worse if we don't 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: do something about it. But it's all but design. Everybody says, well, 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: we'll come up with a border bill and it'll help 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: the situation. No matter what we come up with, they're 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: not going by the law. They're going to continue to 34 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: open the borders and let people in. And it's just 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: devastating to the citizens and the taxpayers of this country 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: are having to pay for this, and it's an enormous bill. 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: Well, and we have something like ten million people who 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: have crossed the border since Biden was sworn in. I 39 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: mean ten million people entering the US illegally is an 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: enormous number. 41 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: And that's the ones we know of. If you can 42 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: come in and get all the free things that we 43 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: give them as one thing, but if you're going to 44 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: go around those border stations to get the free things 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: and be allowed to come in. If you're going to 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: go somewhere else and come across and sneak across, you're 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: not coming across for the right reasons. You've got something 48 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: to hide. And we've had several million of those, maybe 49 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: even more than that. They border patrol can't count them. 50 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: But it's been devastating. I've been done or watch that. 51 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: Our border patrole just overwhelmed. President Biden basically has taken 52 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: all the duties away from our immigration police, which is 53 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: called ICE. They have really no authority now, and it 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: is just overwhelming the system education or health system. We're 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: already bankrupt, but it's continuing to take money away from 56 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: people that need it here in our country. It's just devastating. 57 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: And I just noticed that New York's now offering fifty 58 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: three million dollars in prepaid credit cards to illegal immigrants 59 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: for food and baby supplies. But you apparently have to 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: promise that you're only going to use the prepaid credit 61 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: card for food and baby supplies. And apparently a family 62 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: of four will get one thousand dollars a month in 63 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: a credit card from the City of New York. Now 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: if you're an American citizen, you're not eligible. But if 65 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: you're an illegal immigrants, you are. What's the rationale for 66 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: treating illegal immigrants better than Americans. 67 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: Well, there's really none. And the scary thing about all 68 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: this is they have nothing to do. Most of them 69 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: are not working, young men on the streets. We saw 70 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: what they're doing to police, beating people up, robbing people. 71 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: There's not one positive about this entire situation. And you 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: and I know, in our lifetime we've allowed immigration. We've 73 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: allowed a million, maybe a million and a half to 74 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: come here legally, go the right way, earn their way, 75 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: assimilate with the American people, learn our laws, go by 76 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: our laws. But that's not what's happening now. It was 77 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: an experiment, I think, to watch what happened, and you 78 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: and I saw the last fifteen years what's happened in Europe. 79 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: Europe open their borders, they let all these people come in. 80 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: They didn't know them, they didn't require them to do anything. 81 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: Now Europe is lost. I've been almost every country over there. 82 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: They don't go by their laws. The murder rates are up, 83 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: they're broke, the resources that they don't have, they're still 84 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: trying to help these people out, but again that was 85 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: only in the experiment. We're the big apple, the United 86 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: States of America, is what these globalists won't. They want 87 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: our country. They want our country to be handed over 88 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: to the globalists, go by their rules, their laws, and 89 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: I'll tell you they're doing a pretty dang good job 90 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: of it. I don't know whether we can stand this 91 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: for another ten eleven months, but we're going to have 92 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: to hold on and hopefully we have a positive election 93 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 2: next fall. 94 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: I didn't realize this until we were getting ready for 95 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: this interview, but the Biden administration stuck a two billion 96 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: dollar deal with Family Endeavors, Inc. And they provide housing 97 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: for migrant families and hotels and facilitia two billion dollars 98 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: to pay to put illegal immigrants in hotels. And then 99 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: we wonder, what does that all mean? Why should we 100 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: be surprised the people all over the world as saying, Gee, 101 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: you can go to the US, you get free healthcare, 102 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: you get a credit card, you put up in a hotel. 103 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: It strikes me maybe I'm too old fashioned. This is 104 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: kind of madness. 105 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people don't know this too, is 106 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: even before they get here. We give aid to the UN. 107 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: We give hundreds of millions of dollars of aid to 108 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: the UN, and they turn around and give debit cards, phones, 109 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 2: they give food, they do everything they possibly can before 110 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: these people even get to the border as they're traveling 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: up from Central America. And it's our money we're giving 112 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: to the UN, and they're turnaround and coming to the 113 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: back door, even helping them be able to make the 114 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: trip along with I guess you can call the cartel 115 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: all the way up to our borders, and then when 116 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: they get to our place, we load them up again 117 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: and fly them all over the country. I've been on 118 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 2: planes coming from Eagle Pass McAllen, Texas, and I've got 119 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: illegal setting all around me, and I had to go 120 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: through TSA. I'm a United States Senator. They get on 121 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: there and they've got cash in a Manila envelope, they've 122 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: got a phone, they got debit cards, they got new clothes. 123 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it is absolutely crazy to what we're doing 124 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: for people that we don't even do for people that 125 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: are in our country, and we need to be doing that. 126 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: You know, we have a project called America's New Majority 127 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: Project where we do a great deal of polling, we 128 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: found that seventy four percent three out of every four 129 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: voters agree. So we all to have a border security 130 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: first approach. I mean they want the border controlled period. 131 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: And I looked at the so called Senate bipartisan bill. 132 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: It was so far away from what the average American 133 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: wanted that I frankly couldn't figure out how some friends 134 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: of mine talked themselves into doing it. That bill really 135 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 1: was as bad as everybody has said. 136 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: The problem with this bill is we've got an ace 137 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: in the hole here. Okay, a lot of the people 138 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: in even the Republican Party in the Senate, especially the Democrats, 139 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: they want to continue to fund Ukraine. You know, that's 140 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: their prerogative, but to do that, you know, we were 141 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: able to get them to come and say, okay, if 142 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: you're gon't get that, we want something done at the border. Well, unfortunately, 143 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: what we did in terms of this four month bill 144 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: that we came up with, and again James Lankfort, Senator 145 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: m Oakland worked hard on this, but he wasn't going 146 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: to get the Democrats to budget. Basically, what they ended 147 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: up with was a bill that codified all the law 148 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: breaking that this administration's done from day one. The laws 149 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: are already there. This stretches these laws to where, hey, 150 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: look now we've got laws that we can go by 151 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: five thousand a day, do everything we possibly can. And 152 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: even in the Bomba administration they said one thousand a 153 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: day is a disaster. Well, we average new over the 154 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: last year, seventy five hundred a day average coming across 155 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: our borders. It is going to bankrupt us. It's going 156 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 2: to run everything that we have built in this country 157 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: over two hundred and forty eight years. It's going to 158 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: run it in the ground. We can't operate like this. 159 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: Even the United States of America, as strong and as 160 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: healthy as we are, we can't control and be able 161 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: to handle this and be able to remain the country 162 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: that you and I had a chance to grow up. 163 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: What I don't understand is that the so called border 164 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: reform bill had billions more to pay the various non 165 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: governmental groups to facilitate illegal immigrants. I mean, it's like 166 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: it had a nice title. It's like having the word 167 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: ferrari on the top of a car that was dead 168 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: and I'm saying, please don't look at the actual car. 169 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: But isn't that a great title? 170 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: The Democrats what they did is they looked at what 171 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: they needed and basically they held us hostage, our negotiators 172 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: and said we wanted five hundred, even less than a 173 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: thousand people a day, and then shut the border down. 174 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: They said, there's no way we'll go under five thousand. 175 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: We probably should have just shut the negotiation down right 176 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: then and said, hey, no way, hit the highway. You're 177 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: not getting any funding for anything that you want. We're 178 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: going to shut it all down. But unfortunately we continue 179 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: to work with them and come up with some kind 180 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: of bill. We try to do it the right way, 181 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: but they're not going to listen. The Democrats could care 182 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: less about this country or our border, or the taxpayers, 183 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: or the citizens, or our constitution, our flag, our future. 184 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: They have an agenda in front of them and as 185 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: Obama said years ago, hey it's time to transition this 186 00:09:52,559 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: country into something else. And by golly, that's what they're doing. 187 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: You joined Senator Roger Marshall Kansas, and you introduced a 188 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: resolution to declare the surge of migrants at the border 189 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: and invasion. 190 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: Explain that, well, a lot of them say that we 191 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: have illegals coming over, and we have people that are 192 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: not supposed to be here, and it sounds like you've 193 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: got a dribbling of people. And we have a big border, 194 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: but most of the borders in Texas. People don't realize 195 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: that illegal immigration is up to almost five hundred percent 196 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: at the northern border. It's not just the southern border. 197 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: And the ones coming in up there are flying in, 198 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: They're being sponsored by certain groups. It's a scary situation, 199 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: but we wanted people to realize, hey, this is not 200 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: a normal three years that we've gone through. Over the years, 201 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: people say, well, the border doesn't bother me, and because 202 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: it doesn't affect me, we're not a border state. We're 203 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: trying to let everybody know that, Hey, everybody's going to 204 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: be involved in this, and that's the reason we can 205 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: call it an invasion. That's exactly what it is. An invasion. 206 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: Is the border states can't handle it. They got to 207 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: go somewhere else. So every state in our country is 208 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: going to be affected by this gross neglect of the 209 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: laws that are already on the books. 210 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: Isn't it true that Trump actually, under current law, was 211 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: able to dramatically reduce illegal immigration, So when Biden talks 212 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: about he really can't do it that's because he doesn't 213 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: want to do it. If he used the authorities that 214 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: Trump successfully used, you would radically cut down the number 215 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: of people on the border. Am I missing something? 216 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: Oh, you're exactly right, and you know I've only been 217 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: here three years. The thing that I've noticed is this 218 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: administration has zero negotiating skills. Zero. Now the Vice president 219 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: is just out of her league. I don't know what 220 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: she's supposed to be the borders are and she attempted 221 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: to go down there one time in three years. She 222 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: should get a lot of blame for this, because as 223 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: we know, Joe Biden is not mentally able to do 224 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: all the things that a president should be able to do, 225 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: and we see him struggling all the time. But the 226 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: problem that I say, I'm on Armed Services Committee. We 227 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: need to be negotiating every day trying to get all 228 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 2: these wars worked out. Now we're working some with Israel 229 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: and AAMAS. I know Tony Blinkoln's over there. Somebody better 230 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: get to Ukraine in Russia and work this mess out 231 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: because Ukraine, in the long run, they're losing tens of 232 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: thousands of people and they really have nothing to fight 233 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: with anymore. They've almost lost everybody. But going back to 234 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: what I've started with on this subject, so we don't 235 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: negotiate hardly anywhere in foreign relations, somebody and Trump did this. 236 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: He told the president of Mexico, listen, if you don't 237 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: help us out, if you don't put military to border, 238 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: if you don't keep them in Mexico in Mexico law, 239 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: and if you don't do that, we're going to shut 240 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: down the border. Now that's pretty tough, because Mexico could 241 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: not survive if we shut the border down in terms 242 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: of trade, going back and forth, he didn't say he's 243 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: going to put tariffs on, but he also said I'm 244 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: gonna shut it down. And that president he jumped up 245 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: and stood up very quickly and said we will help. 246 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: And they were actually a big part of slowing the 247 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: illegal immigration down in Trump's last couple of years. 248 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: Trump was very clever, as a guy who had spent 249 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: his whole lifetime negotiating in business. He was very clever 250 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: at figuring out under what circumstance you would decide you 251 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: want to help him, and then he would try to 252 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: set up that circumstance. And he did this over and 253 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: over again. And you look at Biden who just this 254 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: last few days couldn't remember who the president of France was, 255 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: and he began to realize maybe the Biden team isn't 256 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: exactly up to it. 257 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: Well, and it scares me, and I know it does you. 258 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: And of course they're Democrats and we're Republicans, but were 259 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: also Americans. We want our country to survive. What I 260 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: saw in the last few days of the President trying 261 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 2: to not go off a list of reading things, he 262 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: tried to think of things himself. I felt bad for him, 263 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: but also felt bad for the people of this country 264 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: because he is supposed to be keeping everybody in his 265 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: country safe. And this foreign relation wise, and you've been 266 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: in it a long time, you saw it. This is 267 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: probably as dangerous as our country is right now in 268 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: terms of overseas and foreign relations. And then we turn 269 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: and look at the border. It's the same thing in 270 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: our country. We are not protecting the citizens in our country, 271 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: and this thing could crumble in a very short period 272 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: of time. 273 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: Every one of our enemies watches President Biden on television. 274 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: One of the keys to dealing with dictatorships is a 275 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: question of who intimidates who. And the thing with Trump 276 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: was that he generally went around and intimidated. Whether it 277 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: was the North Korean dictator or the Chinese dictator or 278 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: the Russian dictator, they had a sense of this was 279 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: a tough guy. I think he even intimidated the Iranians. 280 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: I can't imagine Biden intimidating you know, the steward who 281 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: brings him ice tea at the White House. To me 282 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: as a historian, this is probably between our domestic problems 283 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: and the national security problems. This may be the most 284 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: dangerous period we've had since Washington crossed the Delaware on 285 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: Christmas Night in seventeen seventy six. They're just a lot 286 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: of things that could go wrong in the next eight 287 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: or nine months that could have horrendous implication of being 288 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: on armed services. You know how fragile our lead is 289 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: and our ability is to do all the different things 290 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: that were committed to around the world. And I think 291 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: it's a huge problem. 292 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: And the thing people need to understand is we keep 293 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: hearing his team talk about bidnomics. In our economy, we 294 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: are dead broke, okay, thirty five tree in debt. We're 295 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: barring eighty thousand dollars. Only people who listening to this, 296 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: we are barring eighty thousand dollars a second right now 297 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: to pay for all these wars, all the money that 298 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: we're spending over budget. That's four point six million a minute. 299 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: We cannot sustain that. It's impossible. Our economy is in 300 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: the tank. You can look at everybody saying, well, look 301 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: at the stock market, it's going up. That's because we're 302 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: pumping money into the economy. It has nothing to do 303 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: with growth, it has nothing to do with paying down 304 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: our debt. It's the economy going in a direction that 305 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: the government's trying to keep it up to boast what 306 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: supposedly bidnomics is doing. We are in tough shape. Our 307 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: debt is thirty five tree and we're almost four tree 308 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: and in debt personally in terms of credit card use 309 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: for treeing. We're going to be so far in debt 310 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: we'll never be able to get out. And what worries 311 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: me too, being on you said armed services. I get 312 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: all these briefings from all over the world. We have 313 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: managed to run Russia and China and Saudi Arabia, all 314 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 2: these people in what they call bricks, and they're creating 315 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: their own so called NATO, which we have mostly European 316 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: they're going to start using a goal by currency. And 317 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: if they start using that one hundred percent and get 318 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: away from the dollar, which everybody right now is using, 319 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: it is even gonna make us that much worse. Right now, 320 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: we're getting ready to have to defend about eight or 321 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: nine trellion dollars worth of treasury bonds that's going to 322 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: come and do. Now, who's gonna pay that? We don't 323 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: have the money. We live in a world right now 324 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: that I think the most pressing problem that we have. 325 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: The border is huge, everything overseas is huge. Our debt 326 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: is going to be the biggest problem that you and 327 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: I have seen in our lifetime. 328 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: I mean, there's the real danger that they're going to 329 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: have to dramatically raise interest rates to be able to 330 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: move the bonds. The people are not going to come 331 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: in at a traditional bond value. But let me ask 332 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: you one area that you are involved in, I know 333 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: you care about passionately, and that's the degree to which 334 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: the Veterans Administration is being exploited for illegal immigrants rather 335 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: than for veterans. 336 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: Well, I'm on the VA Committee and we've done a 337 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: lot up here. We spent a lot of money on 338 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: our veterans, and rightly so. We have nineteen million veterans 339 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: in this country, but we can barely service nine million 340 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: up now. A lot of these veterans have their own 341 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: healthcare that they use and Medicare and those things, but 342 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: a lot of them need and use the VA in 343 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: our country as their only source of healthcare. And it's 344 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: the biggest healthcare system in the world. It is huge. 345 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: But here's the problem. We fund the heck out of it, 346 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: and when we do that, we still have long lines 347 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 2: of a lot of our vas across the country and 348 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: it takes a while for them to get in and 349 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 2: get the right healthcare and those types of things because 350 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: they're veterans. Most of them are pretty older, they got PTS, 351 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: their whatever. But here's the problem we're having now, and 352 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: I said earlier, this border, uncontrolled borders causing hundreds and 353 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 2: hundreds of problems, and a lot of them are happening 354 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: different every day. One we have with the VA right 355 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: now is the VA is using resources for illegal immigrants. 356 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 2: And what's happened is, over the years, we've built these 357 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: community care systems away from the big VAS, where in 358 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: rural areas you didn't have to drive a couple hours 359 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: to a VA. You couldn't afford it. You had kind 360 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: of a local community VA. Well, Joe Biden has now 361 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 2: given resources from the VA to these community care systems 362 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: to use for the illegals coming across the border. So 363 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: what does that do. It makes the lines even longer 364 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: for the veterans who have earned the right to earn 365 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: the right for healthcare to be paid for by us. 366 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: That's what they've done for us. And so this is 367 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: wrong by Joe Biden. It didn't go by anybody in Congress. 368 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: I've got a bill out called the no VA Resources 369 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: for Illegal Aliens Act, And with Mike Bost, a congressman 370 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: over the House, he's on the VA committee over there, 371 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: we're going to fight at tooth and nail. But you 372 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: know what, we can scream about it all day long. 373 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: They know what's wrong, they know it's illegal, but they're 374 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: going to do it anyway. 375 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: I was a little startled. We apparently have like three 376 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety seven thousand claims that are backlogged, and 377 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: those are Americans. Those aren't illegal immigrants, those are American veterans. 378 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: Almost four hundred thousand backlog claims from veterans. Now, you 379 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: did introduce the no VA Resources for Illegal Aliens Act? 380 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: Who should stop the VA from being exploited for illegal immigrants? 381 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: What kind of reaction have you gotten? 382 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: Well, you're get none from the Democrats, of course, you know, 383 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: well as anybody the leader gets to bring the bills 384 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: to the floor. This will never see the light of day, 385 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: only on shows like yours that we're doing right now 386 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: where we can get it out to the because the 387 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: veterans are all complaining. But I just want people to 388 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: know it's a huge consequence. But this is just one 389 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: of hundreds that all these illegal aliens, the problems that 390 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: they're causing our country, and they're just draining resources from everywhere. 391 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: It's an endless waterfall of money that's going to all 392 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: these people coming in because they have nothing. And we 393 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: loved immigrants, We were all immigrants. But we have the 394 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: opportunity and I have the country to say, Okay, we 395 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: can pick and choose. We can pick and choose the 396 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: best and the brightest that want to come here that 397 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 2: can actually give back to our country and love our 398 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: country like we do. But this administration wants people to 399 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: come here uneducated, can't speak the language that need the 400 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 2: Democrats for money to be given to them where they 401 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: can get them to vote for That's bottom line, that's 402 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: what it's for. 403 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: On a totally different topic, you showed enormous courage and 404 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: even more enormous stubbornness in taking on the entire Defense 405 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: Department and tying up the Senate in ways that I 406 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: hadn't seen in a long time. As you look back 407 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: on all that, what kind of lessons do you think 408 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: you've learned? 409 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I do this right. And I 410 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 2: wasn't the first one to put holes on promotions in 411 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: the military. I would way down the list. We had 412 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: one senator that's still in the Senate that had holes. 413 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: But when you put a hole on something, you get conversation, 414 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: you get negotiation. I heard about two minutes worth of 415 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: negotiation in eleven months. If I'd have been treasure in 416 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: the United States and we had had wars breaking out 417 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: all over the world, I'd have told one of my aides, Hey, 418 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: call coach and get him over here and let's work 419 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: this out. I never heard from the White House, and 420 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: I talked twice to the Secretary of Defense, maybe about 421 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: a minute each. They could have cared less about negotiating. 422 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: They knew it wasn't bothering them. They knew that things 423 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: were going normal. But I started to getting more pressure 424 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: from my party, from the Republicans, people that supposedly were 425 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 2: big for the military. Hey, there's nobody here more stronger 426 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: for the military. I mean, my dad died on active duty, 427 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: and I grew up a military bratt and I am 428 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: one hundred and ten percent for a military. But I 429 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: am not for taxpayers having to pay for anything to 430 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: do with abortion. It's against the law. But these people 431 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: don't care. So eventually I had to give it up 432 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 2: newt because they were going to go around me and 433 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: they were actually going to change a rule in the 434 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: Senate that minority senators couldn't but hold on anything, and 435 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: I didn't want that to happen. So we got it 436 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: over with and hopefully in the future we can get 437 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: this rectified. 438 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: Were you surprised at the fact that they just shrugged it. 439 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: All off, Yeah, I mean it didn't mean anything to them. 440 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: I mean it's like, hey, we got four hundred and 441 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: fifty people that should be promoted, but we don't worry 442 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: about it. But really, it wasn't affecting ready and they 443 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: knew that, but they were trying to put more and 444 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: more pressure on me. That's the way they do it. 445 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: The abortion's big for them now. And I will say this. 446 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: We've had an abortion policy for thirty five years, voted 447 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 2: on by Joe Biden when he was in the Senate. 448 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 2: It had worked great, They had no problems, but they 449 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: wanted to change it because of Roe Wade. Because it's 450 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: federal employees. They can't control the state because Roe Wade 451 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: went back to the states, but they could control federal employees. 452 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: Now we'll say this too. Most people don't know this. 453 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: I fought this. They also have never ever had abortions 454 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: in the VA. Joe Biden one day on the floor 455 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: says they will never be abortions in the VA. Well, 456 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: guess what they did last year. Now we have abortions 457 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: in the VA. I fought it. I lost a vote 458 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: on the floor. That's the way it goes. But I 459 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 2: fought this other and we had a chance, but a 460 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: lot of my Republican colleagues around me got a little 461 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: bit nervous about it, and basically, at the end of 462 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: the day, we had to give in. But we will 463 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: return on this issue because you. 464 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: Do serving them. Committee, What was your reaction to the 465 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense going into the hospital and not telling anybody. Man, 466 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: he didn't tell his own deputy, he didn't tell the 467 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: President United States. I mean, he was kind of missing 468 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: an action for a week. 469 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, in a very important time and a very important 470 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 2: situation that was really uncalled for. But at the end 471 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: of the day, to me, just another fact of disrespect 472 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: for the President of United States. And I don't you 473 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: think about this too new that spy balloon was noticed 474 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: four days of traveling over pretty much out of China, 475 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: over Hawaii, then back up to Alaska. After a four 476 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: day trip, they finally told the President of United States. 477 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: It took four days to tell him. Hey, by the way, 478 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: mister President, we got a balloon floating over our country. 479 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 2: We do, Oh yeah, we do. Four days now to me, 480 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 2: that tells you a lot. Now you turn around on 481 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: this situation. You got your Secretary Defense goes into the 482 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: hospital and for five days he didn't talk to the president. Oh, 483 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: by the way, we had five or six bases that 484 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: had taken on fire in the Middle East in those 485 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: five days, and they never talked. And so something's going 486 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: on here. I don't know what it is if Joe 487 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: Bidens not doing his job, if they don't respect him, 488 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: or they say, well, he doesn't need to know this. Hey, 489 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: I'd like to be protected. Even I'm in the Senate. Hey, 490 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: somebody needs to be on top of this to make 491 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 2: the decisions. And we've got a Secretary of Defense it's 492 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: in the hospital, and it's like, well, let's's just go 493 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: on with life. You know what I'd have done and 494 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: you'd have done. Somebody had been fired if you. 495 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: Think about the chain of command, if there had been 496 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: a real crisis and they absolutely had to have the 497 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: central defense and literally nobody knew where he was. And 498 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: my entire lifetime, I don't remember anything as irresponsible for 499 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: our national security. Basically a Secretary Defense, who's a wall, 500 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: he's a way without leap. It's remarkable. 501 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: He's the staff. Where was the joints of staff, the chairman? 502 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: I mean, somebody's got to know where he's at. 503 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: Well that apparently they didn't. Apparently he kept its secret. 504 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: I am so glad that you're serving in the Senate 505 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: because you lack the indirect confusion of some of our 506 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: friends who have law degrees and can't ever get around 507 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: to do anything. As a coach, you learned early on 508 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: to be direct, to be tough, to work hard, and 509 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: to cut through the boloney. And you are an absolute 510 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: breath of fresh air for the country and for the Senate. 511 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: So I always really enjoy having a chance to talk 512 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: to you, and I want to thank you for joining 513 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: me and for helping our listeners get a first hand 514 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: sense of what's happening both on Capitol Hill but also 515 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: what's happening on the border. I just want to urge 516 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: you keep right there in the middle of the fight, 517 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing because your help get this 518 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: country turned around. 519 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 2: Thank you to God, bless you and grab hold hold 520 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: on next ten months, it's gonna be a little bit bumpy. 521 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: Thank you to my guests, Senator Coach Tommy Tuberville. You 522 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: can learn more about Coach Tuberville's work in the Senate 523 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: on our show page at newtsworld dot com. Newtsworld is 524 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: produced by Ginglish three sixty and iHeartMedia. 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