WEBVTT - Draft Show: Top Day 3 Targets? 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.560 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:17.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Dallas 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.960 Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for in 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:26.560 Center news and Trapped analysis, Dallas Sex Emma Smith running 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:36.560 back from Florida. We are counting down the days. Closer 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.640 and closer we inch toward the NFL Draft on April 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:44.640 twenty third. We're now twenty one days away. It's getting crazy. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.600 Three weeks from today, we will find a new era 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.600 of NFL talent ushered into the league, and we're gonna 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:54.240 break it all down for you here on the Dallas 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.880 Cowboys dot Com Draft Show as we inch closer and 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:00.200 closer into finding out exactly what the ingredients are going 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.880 to be for this Dallas Cowboys team and the roster 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.520 that they're gonna make up heading into twenty twenty. Kyle 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.200 Yeoman's here, David Hellman alongside Kevin Turner, and we've got 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.480 a special guest back on the Draft Show for the 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:16.120 first time since when mobile since we were down at 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.640 the Senior Bowl. Bucky Brooks joins the Draft Show. Bucky, 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.399 thanks for stopping in and of course we're glad to 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.520 have you here on The Draft Show presented by Miller Lite. Hey, 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.360 thanks for having me on, guys, and it's gonna be 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.800 a fun one overall. And I mentioned those ingredients and 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:37.400 before we really get into draft talk, the ingredients for 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.520 a great roster is just like it is for a 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.880 great pizza. And our friends at Papa John stopped by 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:49.080 and gave us a each a personal pizza to celebrate, 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.360 of course, the fact that they are still delivering and 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.560 you can go out and you can't if you look 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.280 at even Kat's got one down there as well. So 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.760 we've all got these personal pizzas that we're showing that 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.080 if you can't even decide what to order, you can 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.880 go and get two picks for six dollars each. Grab 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.680 either a medium one topping like we have, or you 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.480 could go get something else perfectly repaired, maybe wings, a brownie. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.600 We don't judge here on the Draft Show, all of 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:17.280 these different things two picks for six dollars each, available 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:22.040 for a limited time at DFW Austin and Waco area locations. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.320 Dave wanted the wings and I don't think kis have 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.560 been delivered yet, but I know he's a big Wing 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.920 guy overall. You you bet your butt. I am great, 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.720 great plug, Kyle, fantastic, and I can't wait to eat 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.840 my wings later. I know you're you're gonna be nose 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.800 deep in it. But let's go looking at really the 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.560 past week of the Dallas Cowboys, and of course even 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.480 prior to last week when we did our one round 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.840 mock draft here on the Draft Show, we talked about 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:54.280 the potentials for interior defensive linemen and who had already 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:58.880 just been taken care of, at least whenever it comes 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.280 to the signings for the Dallas Cowboys, Gerald McCoy now 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.760 don Terry Poe joining the Cowboys each on a couple 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.919 of multi year deals. And then yesterday we also had 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.960 an edge rusher signed by the Dallas Cowboys, mister Alden Smith, 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.880 a former Pro bowler. We're gonna get into all of that, 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:16.760 but I kind of want to start with the defensive 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.680 tackles guys, and how this kind of affects the draft 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.840 plan for the Dallas Cowboys. And Katie, I want to 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.399 start with you. I mean, these are two bigger bodies 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.120 in the middle of this defensive line, but does that 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.359 kind of sway you from I know what you were 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.040 wanting early in the draft show process, which was javon 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.400 Kin law. Does this sway you at all? Having McCoy 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:40.560 and Poe, No, it really doesn't changed too much for me, 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:44.240 Like I still want to take the best player, and 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.720 I feel like we are in a situation where ken 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:51.320 Law at seventeen does seem like that's kind of sketchy, 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:55.720 like it might not happen. So if ki Law falls 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.240 to you at seventeen, I'm still gonna do that, but 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.840 you know, still take the best player in seventeen. This 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.080 roster's too close. Take the best player, and you know 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.320 you'll figure out your defensive end problem at some point, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:13.400 and maybe that's where Chason comes into play. Bucky Now, 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.479 I think it opens up the board. I think is 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.360 now just sitting take the best player available. When you're 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.120 sitting there at seventeen, depending upon when the run at 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.440 quarterback goes, you don't have a good player fall to 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.680 you at seventeen. So from a defensive standpoint, if Javanna 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.000 Ken laws there, I think it's a no brainer. When 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.799 it comes to the edge rushers, they could be available. 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.480 I think you're talking about a aj Epanessa. You may 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.840 be talking about a Chason And then you're two and 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.640 gross mottos. It really just depends on how Mike Nolan 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.960 views the edge rusher class and what he wants in 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.440 that position. Even though they're bringing an audience faith, I 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.760 don't think he precludes or changes your draft plans. I 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.960 still think you're trying to find a blue chip player 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.880 that can come in and play right away. Yeah, I mean, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:01.240 I think it's really funny. The cowboy always are doing 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.719 exactly what they always do, but they still find a 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.040 way to throw you a curveball or two, right, because 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.040 we're not used to see in the big names. We're 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.039 certainly not used to seeing the big body nose tackles 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.320 like Dantari Poe, not during Rob Marinelli's tenure at any rate. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:20.200 And anybody that saw Alden Smith coming go buy some 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.719 Lotto tickets because that's about as big of a curveball 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.240 as I've ever seen in my career. But it's still 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.160 it fits their game plan right, Like they're not going 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.400 to be big spenders, they're bargain hunters. They're paying PO 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.279 five something million a year and change. I think Smith's 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.920 base salary is only two million with incentives built in. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.599 But what does it do Bucky's is exactly right. It 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.720 opens up the board because the reason I've been talking 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.800 about Calevan Chason this whole time is because it looked 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.799 like they needed to draft a defensive end. Now Alden 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.880 Smith and potentially Randy Gregory shouldn't change that need whatsoever. 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.839 But it puts you in a position where you don't 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.280 have to spend that pick on an edge rusher if 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:07.040 you don't want to. I think where it gets really fun. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:09.320 I'm sorry, Kyle, I think where it gets really fun 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:14.880 is what happens if Ken Law's gone, Chasn's gone, whoever 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.800 they have graded his cornerback too. Maybe it's C. J. Henderson, 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:22.160 maybe he's gone. Like with seventeen, you're sitting there going, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.039 I kind of want to go back, and you can't 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.320 always do that. So or you want to join team 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.839 forty Burger, Kevin, that's the answer, all right, get yourself 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:36.159 a wide receiver being any of the top three receiver 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.760 is gonna be there for teen forty Burger at seventeen. 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.320 That's not a guarantee either, especially if you look at 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:42.880 some of the guys that are gonna go off the 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.080 board early. I mean, do we want to have the 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.960 conversation about Justin Jefferson, because we can do that. What 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:54.320 about Jalen Raiger, Jalen Rager, how about Brandon for seventeen? 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.960 I think all three of those are two high. For seventeen, yeah, 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.480 I think I think those guys are a little too high. 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.719 But if we talk about everyone can't go in the 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.160 first sixteen picks, can't have a ton of quarterbacks, we 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.560 can't have all the playmakers, all the defensive guys go. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.000 There's gonna be a good player. This sitting right there 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.560 at seventeen, I think what you've done by getting the 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.600 veteran players, you've kind of assured that at least opening day, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.320 the start of the season, you have someone that can 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.480 tread out with the ones. Now it's about what's the 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.880 blue chip player. Find the blue chip player, take that 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.920 blue chip player of the girls of the position underneed. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.600 And it's kind of starting to look toward now that 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.000 you've kind of filled some of these needs in free agency, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.960 like a defensive tackle, like an edge rusher potentially, And 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.040 I'm just saying you've filled needs with bodies. Like David said, 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.240 these aren't necessarily the be all, end all moves. These 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.520 are moves that have kind of set you up for 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:57.200 success to add talent, young talent, cheap talent through the draft, 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.360 but also have some veteran presence and maybe a safety 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.960 net if those debts don't necessarily work out. I mean, 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.120 look back to twenty nineteen's draft. You thought you had 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.720 a gem of a pick in Connor McGovern in the 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.760 third round to pick ninety. He didn't play all last year. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.520 That's not because he's a bad player. He just had 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.480 some health issues. And if you were relying on him 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.800 to be a starting interior offensive lineman heading into twenty nineteen, 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.640 it would have been a lot different or a lot 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.840 more disappointing the fact that he was unhealthy. Now you've 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.360 got kind of a safety net underneath you. You're starting 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.200 to build a little bit of a roster, and I 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.240 see how it opens up the board. But I kind 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:36.439 of want to keep a mindset on defensive line right 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:40.000 now and ask you guys this question, which part of 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.640 the defensive line is now the highest draft need? Is 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:47.800 it interior or where is it on the edge? I 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:52.280 honest definitely a good Well. I'm sorry, Kate, I don't 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.760 think anything has changed. Like I just said, I still 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.520 look at right end as a huge problem spot and 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.720 Alden Smith is. It's super intriguing because the upside is 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.480 crazy if it pans out. But how can you count 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:10.960 on that? I believe right now he has not been reinstated. Obviously, 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.920 the Cowboys are pretty optimistic that he will be, or 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.160 else they wouldn't have signed him, But he has not 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:20.040 been reinstated. Neither has Randy Gregory. Gregory hasn't played in 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:24.800 more than a year. Alvin Smith hasn't played since twenty fifteen. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.040 Think about what you were doing in twenty fifteen. I mean, 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:33.280 that's so it's crazy. So I can't sit here and 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.160 count on either of those guys. I don't feel great 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.320 about what was already on the roster, Tyron Crawford coming 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.600 off hip surgery, and then a bunch of young players 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.400 that haven't done a whole lot. It has not been 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.400 addressed to the point where I'm not worried about it. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.120 So I still, you know, Gerald McCoy and Dontari Poe 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.800 are are starter caliber players. They still don't have anything 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.880 on the right side that just makes me feel super great. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.360 I know the game is, you know, trying to take 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.800 the best player you can, but would you guys agree 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.200 with me that you feel better about the defensive tackle 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:11.560 depth in round two than maybe the edge rusher depth 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.320 on Day two in general? I would agree, Yeah, I would, 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.360 I would agree, And I think I think you're kind 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:21.120 of answering the question for yourself right there, because the 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.679 falloff and edge rushers from first round to second round. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:26.720 If they're going to make a move, they have to 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.120 make a move in the first round that defensive end 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.319 need outside linebacker, however you want to call it, that 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:36.120 edge rusher player they need. I think with Randy Gregory 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.840 and Aldon Smith, those are kind of bonus picks. If 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.720 even one of those guys materializes and turns into a 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.200 prominent player at death, great, I still think they have 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.520 to enter the draft thinking, man, it'd be great to 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.960 be able to get an edge rusher, a playmaker, someone 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.160 that can be disruptive off the edge at seventeen. And 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.800 then it's a matter of this defense four three three four. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.480 Whoever they pick has to be a guy that kind 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.440 of fits what Mike Nolan so we envisions in terms 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.679 of that playing style as an edge player, and a 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.880 lot of it determines on Okay, after Chase Young goes, 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.400 who are the next ones to go? It? Will any 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.560 of those guys be available when they get to seventeen? 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.240 Plenty of options for the Cowboys at seventeen. And I 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.360 mean you could even throw secondary into the mix. I 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.560 mean we've talked about a corner or a safety really 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.600 since the draft show started about eighty five days ago, 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.920 just based off of the fact that you need a safety. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.920 You still need a corner. You've lost Byron Jones, and 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.520 even with the addition of Haw Haw Clinton Dicks at 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.040 the safety spot, you're not necessarily sold in that spot 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.680 as well. So with all of this being said, and 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.840 if you would have asked me this question, and if 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.160 I would have asked you guys this question three weeks ago, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.120 it might have been a lot different. But right now, 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.120 as we sit twenty one days from the NFL Draft, 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.439 what are your top three needs for the Dallas Cowboys 0:11:54.720 --> 0:12:02.440 in order at this moment? Oh wow, that's tough because 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:07.599 it's not an easy question. It's really not um But Bucky, 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.719 I want to hear I mean, we've been doing this 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:11.800 for three months. I want to hear your thoughts on it. 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.719 Just a new a new perspective. I think it has 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:17.559 to be somewhere on the defenses of the ball. I 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.480 think offensively they're good enough to to to play at 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:26.000 a high level. Defensively, edge rusher corner safety. I would 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.040 say edge rusher because the best way to protect the 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.240 back end is to make sure that you're able to 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.720 generate pressure when you go back and you look at 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.400 Mike Nolan's history and the fact that Jim tom Sula 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:42.320 when they had a role, I think what you want 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.040 to do is be able to dominate people up front 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.119 and find an edge rusher that can get home consistently. 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.360 If it's not one of those guys, then it has 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.760 to be a top flight cornerback, someone that can play 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.320 man demand, but also has enough in the toolbox to 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.360 be able to get after people in a variety of 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.080 different ways. And then safety. The thing about the safety class, 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.600 I'm not overwhelmed with any of the top safeties, and 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:06.480 so I don't know if in the first round you 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.040 have to go and get a safety, because they all 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.719 kind of they're okay. I don't think they're stars at 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.840 the top of the board. So I would focus on 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:17.880 somewhere in that front line, somewhere on the edge, someone 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.280 that can make it happen. Someone that can create sacks 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:24.280 and really disrupt the play of the passing year. That's 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.360 where it gets real fund from what Dave was saying 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.960 earlier though, because I think that fourth need might be 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:33.120 wide receiver. Three. Yeah, and it just depending what's there. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.720 If the best player was a wide receiver, whether it 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:38.320 be one of the Big three or whoever you're in 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.640 love with the Big Three being Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.480 and Ceedee Lamb. I find that kind of fascinating of 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.960 how they would think with an offensive minded head coach 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.720 coming in here as well. If the best player graded 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.000 was their fourth need, that's where things get really fun. 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.480 On draft night, I would agree with Bucky out of percent, 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.720 though you look at their depth chart. I really liked 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.880 their move of bringing back Anthony Brown, and I know 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.199 he was cheap and Cheeto's going into year three not 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.000 giving up on Cheetoh at all. Year four, You're four, Katie, 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.160 year four, I'm sorry, so so a defensive end, time flies, man, 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.800 except when you're quarantined and time goes by really slow. 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.600 But like you have recognizable names there at cornerback, it's 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.440 not you know, you've got to feel in for Byron Jones, 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.440 but we're talking about big time gambles on Aldon Smith 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.480 and Randy Gregory and plug Tyron Crawford's coming back, and 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:32.440 maybe he could play some defensive end for you. But 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.120 so I agree one hundred percent it's Bucky. It's it's 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.560 right defensive end. That is their number one need. For sure, 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:44.440 I was making a thing a bit easier. I'm I'm 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.280 so conflicted though, I mean, I agree with everything Bucky 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.360 said too, It's hard to ignore any of those needs. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.920 The cornerback situation is kind of terrifying because Anthony Brown 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.760 is really the only sure thing you have now and 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.520 in the future. I love George Lewis, but even if 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.080 he's good, he's in a contract here. But having said 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.760 all of that, I can't stop thinking about wide receiver. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.520 You know deep, No, I mean, I know we joke about, 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.240 we joke about drafting one and having this great offense, 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:20.040 But like, isn't a strategy for success surrounding your quarterback 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:24.000 with the best options possible? Like, yeah, you could sign 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.560 Tavon Austin and throw them in there to be your slot, 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.800 but like, is that the best strategy when you consider 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.240 all of the great wide receivers that are available in 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.000 this draft. And if you want your thirty one million 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.400 dollars maybe thirty five million dollar quarterback to succeed, I 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.680 want as many good players around him as possible. And 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.760 you can talk to me all day about how a 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:46.520 great quarterback should elevate lesser players. I don't care give 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.520 the guy town. I mean, Pat Mahomes just won a 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.640 Super Bowl surrounded by Pro Bowl caliver skill players, and 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.840 so I can't call wide receiver a top three need. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.880 But I really think it would be in their best 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.600 interest to address that opening with a high caliber player. 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.120 That's I mean, I don't know, that's just me. Why 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.000 Why is it not surprising to me the fact that 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:13.119 David Hellman loses sleep at night thinking about drafting wide receivers. 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.760 Is that? Is that just the most David Hellman thing 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.920 you've ever heard of? I mean, do you want do 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.400 you want to like throw Cedric Wilson out there, or 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.880 do you want to go get one of these ten 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:28.360 million badass receivers, Like there's so many of them, and 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:29.680 I mean you to get one of those in the 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:34.760 third in the fourth round though you could and they might, 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.000 but and I mean you still you have a decline 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:39.720 And yeah, I mean I'm not saying they have to 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.240 do it at seventeen, but I would argue, like one 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.040 of their first three picks, you're gonna have a chance 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.560 to draft their really good wide receiver. That's all I think, David. 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.120 I think you hit on something when you talk about 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.200 in the second and third rounds. If you go back 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.560 and look at Mike McCarthy's history, that's typically how the 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.920 Green Bay Packers did it under his watch. They were 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:01.960 find guys in the second and third round, guys that 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.720 could come in. They would develop them in a way. 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.320 They would go from Jody Nelson to Greg Jennings and 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.560 on and on, and so I think that might be 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.200 the sweet spot for the Dallas Cowboys. We've talked about 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.399 the depth and the talent in this wide receiver class. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.160 It's gotten to have been proven that you can get 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.600 a number one receiver in the second round. We saw 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.880 a j Brown pop for Tennessee. We saw Terry mclauren 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.800 in the third round pop for the Washington Riskins. Michael Thomas, 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.000 who summer considering the best receiver in football, was the 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.760 second round. So if the Cowboys knowing exactly what they want, 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.320 they can find a guy in the second round. But 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.160 you're right, they have to get a Tier one player, 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.080 blue chip player in the first round, someone that could 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.040 come in and immediately make a significant contribution. I like 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.920 that you mentioned that, Bucky, because the Cowboys obviously they 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.320 do weigh in like a lot of teams do. They 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.119 weigh in roadmapping the draft. Where's the depth of the draft? 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.200 But you mentioned all those Packers wide receivers Davante Adams 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.840 a couple of years ago, second round, and the Cowboys 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.040 had a little bit of success in the third round 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.760 with Michael Gallant too, yea, So maybe they're like, hey, 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.480 we can get a receiver later. We just did it 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.240 with Michael Gallup. Let's go somewhere else and really attack 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.119 the defense in the first couple rounds, you know. And 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:09.800 it's kind of funny that you bring that up, and 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:14.160 you talk about how in the past they've tend to 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:18.080 kind of put their I guess, their priorities and other 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.560 positions other than maybe the corners and the safeties. And 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.200 with this being a different, different coaching staff, that may change, 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.040 it may stay the same. We don't know. We won't 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.680 know until April twenty third. However, with the moves that 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:34.080 they've kind of been making throughout the course of this offseason, 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:36.600 and this is going to kind of go back to 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:38.800 what I was talking about with Dave and trying to 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.560 get to poke at it with Helman just a minute ago. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.080 But I could see them now starting to kind of 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.640 put the pieces around, make sure there's a safety net. 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.920 So that way, if the best player available at seventeen 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.879 is a wide receiver, either Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs, 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.480 Jalen Raker, doesn't matter any of those guys. It makes 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.800 it possibility to where you're able to make a pick 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:08.040 there at a wide receiver. What do you do with 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:12.920 the best overall players and offensive tackle? Take them? That's 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:17.960 a good question. No hesitation, No hesitation, Yeah, because when 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:19.840 you look at Tyron Smith, like how many more years 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.399 as Tyron Smith have at a high level with the 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.399 injuries and the slow decline and play, If there's a 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:29.120 top offensive tackle there, you can't go wrong. I think 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.480 the Cowboys at a point where you can't go wrong. 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.200 Just stockpolling talent and you take a talented offensive tackle 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.200 and say he can't play the first year or whatever. 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.679 They're ways that you can get them onto the field. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.960 Whether it's using six offensive line sets, whether it's finding 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.280 a way to eat the movement inside or outside. There's 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:47.960 a number of ways that you can take a blue 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.520 chip telling get them on the field. I think there 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.520 are plenty of blue chip opportunities throughout the entirety of 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.200 the first round, and we'll address that more and more 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.440 as we go along. 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