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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Preston Dennett began investigating UFOs and the paranormal in nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty six when he discovered that his family, friends, and

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Speaker 2: co workers were having dramatic, unexplained encounters. Since then, he's

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Speaker 2: interviewed hundreds of witnesses and investigated a wide variety of

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Speaker 2: paranormal phenomena. He's a field investigator for the Mutual UFO Network,

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Speaker 2: a ghost hunter, a paranormal researcher, and the author of

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Speaker 2: I Believe Now It is thirty one books and counting

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Speaker 2: more than one hundred articles on UFOs and the paranormal.

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Speaker 2: His articles have appeared in numerous magazines including Fate Atlantis,

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Speaker 2: Rising Muffon, UFO Journal, Nexus, Paranormal Magazine, UFO Magazine, Mysteries Magazine.

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Speaker 2: His writing has been translated into several different languages, and

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Speaker 2: he's appeared on numerous radio and television programs. He's a

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Speaker 2: frequent guest right here on Coast to Coast and his

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Speaker 2: latest is Humanoids and High Strangeness Twenty True UFO Encounters.

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Speaker 2: Preston Welcome back once again to Coast to Coast AM.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good. Yeah, thanks for chart.

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Speaker 2: How are you very well? Very well. I'm always amazed

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Speaker 2: how you're able to come to the four with stories

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Speaker 2: that have not been told elsewhere, that that they share

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Speaker 2: with you and almost exclusively. Why is that? What is

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Speaker 2: it about President Dennett that people want to tell you

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Speaker 2: and I don't know, unburdened themselves with these stories.

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Speaker 3: Well, I do have a wide network, you know, as

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Speaker 3: you said, I've been putting out books for a while.

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Speaker 3: I have a website, you know, I appear on a

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Speaker 3: lot of podcasts, so my name is out there. But

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Speaker 3: I think I've gotten a reputation for being able to

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Speaker 3: put off people's stories in an objective and accurate way.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of censoring going on. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of what I would call people putting forth to agenda,

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Speaker 3: shoe fitting, cherry picking. I'm not doing that. I won't

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Speaker 3: sense their person's story other than to vet it. Perhaps

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Speaker 3: each person who I write about in this latest book,

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Speaker 3: and they got their chapter, I sent it to them

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Speaker 3: to ensure accuracy. So I think that's probably one of

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Speaker 3: the reasons. But there's a lot of people out there

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Speaker 3: who are having these encounters. It's not hard to find.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about the vetting process because

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Speaker 2: there are also I mean, there's no question there are

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Speaker 2: people who have some kind of an encounter and experience.

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Speaker 2: But there are other people who are, let's face it, fantasists,

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Speaker 2: maybe delusional, perhaps some underlying mental health issue, or they

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Speaker 2: just want to plane out, you know, spin a yarn.

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Speaker 2: How do you vet these people?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you do it to the best of your ability,

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Speaker 3: and having been doing this for a while, I think

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Speaker 3: I've gotten pretty good at it. I can't obviously ensure

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Speaker 3: completely that everyone is telling them the complete truth, but

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Speaker 3: you do go through your standard sort of process of this.

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Speaker 3: I will first do an interview that's not recorded. I

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Speaker 3: will just take down notes and see if this is

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Speaker 3: something worth looking into. I will then do a recorded

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Speaker 3: interview and follow that up with at least a couple

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Speaker 3: of other interviews. I will try to get character references,

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Speaker 3: confirm a person's job, or do fact checking on everything

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Speaker 3: that they tell me to the extent that I can.

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Speaker 3: I always love it when a case has multiple witnesses,

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Speaker 3: because I think that adds a level of credibility. And

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Speaker 3: when you examine a person's report, you start to get

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Speaker 3: UFO community. By that, I mean details about how the

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Speaker 3: ets might be dressed, the tools they use, the clothes

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Speaker 3: It's not uncommon for someone to say, you know, please

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Speaker 3: a certain degree saying, you know, I've got a good job,

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Speaker 3: I don't do drugs, this sort of thing. But ultimately,

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Speaker 3: it's the emotion that they attached to their experience that

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Speaker 3: as they tell you something, or becoming very emotional about it,

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Speaker 3: and many of these cases do have evidence of some kind.

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Speaker 2: Well, tell me about these photographs. Of of a UFO landing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly I absolutely asked for them because this is

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Speaker 2: And because you know, the scorch marks were still there,

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Speaker 2: this was a recent event, I'm guessing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, absolutely was twenty gosh, let me see, I

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Speaker 2: Right right, you know. Going through the book, and again

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Speaker 2: there are twenty encounters it featured in the book, and

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Speaker 2: such a diversity of entities mentioned, it's quite mind boggling.

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Speaker 2: You've got grays, you've got human looking ets, mantids, reptilians, angels,

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Speaker 2: nature spirits, ghosts, poultergeists, demons, bigfoot, supernatural entities of all kinds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I really wanted to feature the fact that

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Speaker 3: a wide range of paranormal events. It's not just grays

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Speaker 3: people taking people on bold physically examining them. There's all

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Speaker 3: different types of ets, as you mentioned, human looking, little

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Speaker 3: always contact, these will experience pharenormal events like astral projection, precognition, healing, levitation,

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Speaker 3: even I mean, you name it. Across the board, these

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Speaker 3: embrace that because I know that oftentimes these really strange

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Speaker 3: But this one gentleman, he had never had any encounter

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Speaker 3: It blazes across the sky pretty quickly, slower than a

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Speaker 3: Hector takes, and that is the experience of a nutshell.

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Speaker 2: How many of these twenty cases are our first first

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Speaker 2: time experiences or contact ease? And how many of them

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Speaker 2: you know that they're experiencing contact or encounters let's say

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Speaker 2: more than once, or maybe even on a regular basis.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the vas already involve multiple accounts. It's very rare

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Speaker 3: There's another case that does absolutely speak to that. But

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Speaker 3: generally speaking, No, after you interview the witness and you

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Speaker 3: start digging deep into their history, you uncover much earlier

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Speaker 3: events that usually start around age five or so and

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Speaker 3: continue sporadically throughout life. But that just wasn't true with Hector.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about a case that involves missing time. There

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Speaker 2: in Utah, I guess, and well you take it from there.

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Speaker 3: What happened. Yeah, this is one of the more extensive

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Speaker 3: So this occurred in nineteen seventy eight. Susan's about twenty

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Speaker 3: month to do it. So they were just going to

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Speaker 3: visiting various friends, and just have a good time with it.

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Speaker 3: And they had just left the town of Cedar City

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Speaker 3: normal jackrabbits. So they stop, you know, the cars stopped.

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Speaker 3: They both get out, they walk to the front of

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Speaker 3: are on, the engine still running. When suddenly several things

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Speaker 3: they're not jack rabbits. They now reveal themselves to be grays,

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Speaker 3: and the car lights go off, the engine goes off,

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Speaker 3: from above and strikes them. Karen starts screaming at that point.

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Speaker 3: The next thing they know, they're waking up, and they

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Speaker 3: are many miles down the room in a little diner

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Speaker 3: in Colorado Springs and really trying to orient themselves. They're

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Speaker 3: feeling quite unwell. They've got basically a very severe sunburn

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