1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: And welcome to another episode of Tiger Territory, part of 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: the Bowel Territory Network, a Detroit Tigers podcast. I'm Kieren 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Segley with me as always a man who can relate 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: right now more to the go gos and he ever 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: anticipated he would. 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: He is Cody Stavide doing good. 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 3: Karen, Hey, we are here reacting live. Jack Flaherty is 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: back with the Tigers. This is a two year deal 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: contains an opt out after the first. There's a lot 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: of speculation. I was never fully sold that it was 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 3: going to happen, that the Tigers even wanted to add 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: another starter, But I think this is a thing that 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: kind of fell into their laps. Obviously, they really like 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: Jack Flaherty. He was great for them last year, and 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: the market just was not what Jack wanted. The Athletic 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: predicted him to get four years and ninety two million. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: I certainly thought he could get anywhere from eighty two 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 3: hundred million in free agency. It just didn't materialize for him. 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: There were probably some concerns the v LO dipped last 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: year postseason. We know there have been some concerns over 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 3: the medicals that led to the Yankees trade falling through 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: at the deadline. Last year, Jack Flaherty's market kind of 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: crashed and that led to a prime opportunity for the 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: Detroit Tigers to swoop back in get him on a 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: favorable short term deal. And honestly, it's a pretty big 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: boost of this rotation. This is something I'd said I 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: would do if I were trying to win the Al Central. Well, 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: now you're looking at a top of the rotation that 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: is again going to feature Terrek Scougle and Jack Flaherty, 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: the potential for Jackson Joeb if not at the start 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: of the season most of the season Alex Cobb, You're 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: suddenly looking at a what feels to me like a 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: stronger and deeper rotation for kind of like like, I 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: just don't see a downside here. I think it's pretty 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: good work. And you consider the Tigers got Tygrin Lorenzo 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: and Trey Sweeney last year. Scott Harris played his hand 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: pretty well with the whole Jack flarerty situation. 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and in the court of law they 39 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: have the expression like crime of opportunity or whatever. This 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: was a signing of opportunity. It seemed like I this 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: is a validating moment for the Harris regime, and I 42 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: don't I really don't want to like overstate it because 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: like we are talking about like a relatively you know, 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: it's a two year deal and you know, money's whatever. 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: It's not signing one sono, right, so we all we 46 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: all understand the scale here. However, this is exactly the 47 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: kind of thing that Scott Harris has kind of told you, 48 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: over told you, told us, you know, whatever, over and 49 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: over and over again of why he doesn't have grand 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: plans and why he certainly doesn't want to like speak 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: them out right. So like, you know, kind of chalk 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: one up for the uh, for the ethos of the regime, 53 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: if you would, And just to kind of recap here, 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: because we're going real fast, it's a two year deal 55 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: at first when it came out, twenty five million first year, 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: ten million second year with a player option after the 57 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: first year. You look at that and you're like, well, 58 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of a one year deal then and then 59 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: and then there's you know, a couple more details that 60 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: come out. And again we're recording this very shortly after 61 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: its announce so if there's something we miss that would 62 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: be that would be why he has if he makes 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: fifteen starts this season twenty twenty five, that's a ten 64 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: million dollars boost on the second year of the contract. 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: So it could be two for forty five, which I'm 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: no math major, but if it ends up being two 67 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: for forty five, that's pretty close to half of four 68 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: for ninety two, right. So, so like it's kind of like, 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: in a way, you could say, kind of in line 70 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: with the athletics projection there, because if you look at 71 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: his track record, you would feel good, like if you're 72 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: Flaherty or his representatives, you think a fifteen star threshold 73 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: is pretty achievable. 74 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: He had twenty eight last year. 75 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: He you know, he's obviously had some injuries, so it's 76 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: not like he's hit every year. But you feel like 77 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: if you would feel confident, if you're Flairty or his camp, 78 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: that he can get to fifteen and therefore get the 79 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: ten million dollar boosts. And so when it's twenty on 80 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: the second year, it's a little bit more insurance for him, 81 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more if he wanted to he could stay. 82 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: And on just a side note of this to Cody, 83 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: I was just doing some reading on him and some 84 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: of the quotes he had had you know, throughout last season, 85 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: after the trade deadline, after the season, and you know, 86 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: just a whirlwind of a year for the guy where 87 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: he didn't really know where his place in the game 88 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: was at this time last year. And then he has 89 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: a borderline all star caliber time with the Tigers. He 90 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: is part of a World Series winning team in his 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: native state. He at the parade is talking about how 92 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: he never wants to leave the Dodgers, which, you know, 93 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: you win the World Series at the parade, you feel 94 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: pretty good about yourself. Seems pretty reasonable expression in the half. 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: But then, like you said, the market just kind of 96 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: never went that way. And to his credit, he kind 97 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: of he was kind of hinting that he had realized it, 98 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: and and you know, they're putting feelers out there that 99 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: he would be willing to kind of come down, and 100 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: I really don't think again ends up being two for 101 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: forty five, which or excuse me, uh yeah, two for thirty. 102 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: I got my numbers mixed up here. 103 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: Regardless, it sounds like he's going to like it. He 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: did not take any discount to come to Detroit, and 105 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: that's and I think he can hang his head high 106 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: on that. 107 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he is obviously still going to be a 108 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: good payday next season. The structure of the deal is interesting. 109 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: The fifteenth start threshold gives the Tigers a little bit 110 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: of insurance if he is not healthy. I mean, he 111 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: could come back, but you just wouldn't be paying him 112 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: very much for that second year. Jack felderd He's only 113 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: twenty nine, so you would think that if he had 114 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 3: all replicates what he did last season, he will re 115 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: enter free agency and have a better chance to get 116 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: that long term deal that he's probably looking for. We 117 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: talked about like understanding why Jack was frustrated with the market. 118 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 3: So I don't know if he was doing himself any 119 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: favors by doing interviews and tweeting and stuff, But he's 120 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: going to come out of this okay in terms of 121 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: his AAV. I think another interesting component for the Tigers. 122 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: Another thing that Mick Scott Harris looked pretty good in 123 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 3: this situation. Jack Flaherty is still eligible for the qualifying offer. 124 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: He's never received one. He was traded last year, so 125 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: he wasn't eligible. If Flaherty were to opt out, the 126 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 3: Tigers could give him the qualifying offer, which would be 127 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: around that twenty million mark. If he rejects it, they 128 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: could receive a draft pick. So again, worst case scenario, 129 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: you're getting another year of Flaherty potentially and a draft pick. 130 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: The Tigers are obviously making this move hoping to contend. 131 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: It would be interesting, like if they're out of it 132 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 3: at the trade deadline, what could happen, you know, with 133 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 3: an opt out, we could do the whole e Rod 134 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: thing all over again. But I think the Tigers are 135 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: making this deal with the assumption that they're going to 136 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: be in it this year and not sellers at the deadline. 137 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: That's certainly the hope. Trek Scrugle is happy about this, 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: which which doesn't hurt. He's already tweeted his thoughts, you know, 139 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: And the Tigers clearly know what they're doing with Flerty. 140 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: They had a lot of success. They helped him really 141 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: recapture the stuff he had shown earlier in his career. 142 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: He was really good after he went to LA even 143 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: though the stuff declined a little bit by the end 144 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: of the end of the season. So I'll be curious 145 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: to see, you know, can he maintain his velocity and 146 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: the shape of the slider, and are the Tigers the 147 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: place that understands him and his mechanics the best will 148 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: certainly be something to watch for this year. But there'll 149 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: be a reunion. The Tigers open at the Dodgers. Jack 150 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: Flaherty will get to see his old team. He'll be 151 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: again pitching in the Tigers uniform. Should be fun to see. Yeah, 152 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: he'll probably get a ring. Yeah, like maybe then. I 153 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: don't know. It's it's interesting, but this works out really 154 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: well for Detrup. 155 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: You know, just a couple of numbers recap here with Detroit, 156 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: just with Detroit. Last year he was two point four 157 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: war he had a two point nine to five era 158 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: eighteen starts. As as I mentioned earlier, the age twenty 159 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: nine thing is is a big part of this as well. 160 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: And you know, like I. 161 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: I was, I wanted to have some fun here as 162 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: we're late on a Sunday night and you know, you're 163 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: taking time out of your vacation. So I was like, 164 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: what's a prisoner of the moment thing I could I 165 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: could come up with? 166 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: And one I was like. 167 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: Is last year's you know one for what was it 168 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: fifteen last year? 169 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: Is what they paid him? 170 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: I think fourteen million? Was that the greatest return on 171 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: investment contract or one year contract? In team history, maybe 172 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: MLB history, because you get, like I said, you get 173 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: all star production, you make a trade that results in 174 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: getting a key cog and a postseason run. We were 175 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: what five outs away from the Alcs, and you get 176 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: a top one hundred prospect and then you bring the 177 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: guy back on you know, not even you know, groundbreaking money. 178 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I could not imagine a one year deal 179 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: working out better for a team than what the honestly, 180 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: both team and player, you know, both sides working out better. 181 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Might be the greatest return on investment in Tiger's history. 182 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying it is people are saying it. 183 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it, but you know, I just thought, 184 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: I just thought that right through my head. 185 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, tough to run through the entire course of history, 186 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: but there's clearly like a pretty good return on investment. 187 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone can dispute that. And again, like 188 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: the draft pick thing wounds, the Tigers don't have to 189 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: give up a pick to get him. He talks like 190 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: in October like they really liked Nick Pavetta, but he 191 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: ended up getting the qualifying offer. They get a starter 192 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: who's better than Nick Pavetta, and they don't have to 193 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: give up a draft pick. There's really no one else 194 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: I think one this year's free agent market other than 195 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: I guess Rookie Susaki, who would kind of equate to 196 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 3: that at And yeah, you're keeping Tray Sweety, You're keeping 197 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: Tyran Loronzo for as much drama as there was at 198 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: last year's trade deadline. It's funny to look at it now. 199 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 3: I think you use the word validation like it is 200 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: a validation for Scott Harris, and we talked about how 201 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: much he in this front office love like a market 202 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: and analyzing value what they perceive as a good value. 203 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: Clearly this is it. And I think, you know, everyone 204 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: wants to know what does this mean for the Tigers 205 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: pursuit of Alex Bregman. We don't have that answer tonight. 206 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: I wish we did. Right, Does it impact it? I 207 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: don't know. You know, are they going to be willing 208 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: to spend They just signed Tommy Kinley, who we haven't 209 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: really talked about yet. We're about to address that here 210 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: in a second. It's fair to wonder like is this 211 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: going to cap their spending? And realistically I don't see 212 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: any reason why it should it. Maybe it makes them 213 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: more attractive destination. If they're loading up, it does seem 214 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: like they could be serious, serious ale central free agents 215 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: in a world where they could get Bregman and Flaherty. 216 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: We're gonna have to wait and see on that one. 217 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: No, yeah, and one last thing on like. 218 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: Can I try me and say, I mean, this is 219 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: nothing tangible. Tiger's people seem to be feeling more optimistic 220 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: about the Bregnant situation. Like, I don't know, this has 221 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: been a whole weird saga, but people I've talked to 222 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: seem to be in just good moods the past few days. 223 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: I don't know when Bregnant is going to sign, but 224 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: that feeling that once Houston jumped in it was going 225 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: to be over. Clearly he hasn't re signed with the Astros. 226 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: Dana Brown said this past week, you can't even actually 227 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: talk to Scott Boris yet. It doesn't seem like that's 228 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 3: gonna be a cutt and dry deal. We still't know 229 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 3: what the Tigers have offered, but whatever it is, they 230 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 3: seem to feel good about their offer. It'll be great 231 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: whenever we can get a resolution on the Bregnant sidet. 232 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, their standing I think is that it's like probably 233 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: as optimistic as they. 234 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: I'm just guessing obviously. 235 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my sense for things right now. 236 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know another thing like less use of 237 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: the vieword validation here. I think this also, like you 238 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: mentioned the back and and all that stuff. I think 239 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: the best thing for Flaherty's pr in terms of like 240 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: how bad of an ailment is it really is that 241 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: the team that traded him away decided to bring him 242 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: back on you know, they had to open up the 243 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: check book a little bit to bring him back. Didn't 244 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: break the bank, but it wasn't some veterans minimum type deal, 245 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So so if there was 246 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: like if I was a vindictive friend in like jack circle, 247 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I guess the back's not too 248 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: e f and bad that the Tigers wanted to bring 249 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: him back, you know what I mean. So just just 250 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: a little side note there, So like it's been a 251 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: forward for a second, and talk about the starting rotation, 252 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: which is was kind of was already crowded, not kind of, 253 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: it was already getting crowded with the names of possibilities. 254 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: Now you throw in somebody who goes slots in there 255 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: right at the number two at least metaphorically, if not literally. 256 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: And so I just I just wrote this down real quick. 257 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: Who your who? 258 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: Your five man rotation is Cody, and we can kind 259 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: of hash it out from there tech Google the surprize, 260 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: Jack Flaherty, Cobb, Olsen, Joe. 261 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 2: That's five. 262 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: Now, other names on the list of candidates or at 263 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: least profiles would be my Ada Mice. Can't forget about 264 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: a boy Matt Manning. He's always he's always looking around 265 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: there somewhere. And then obviously there's some others we can 266 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: list starry pictures Till the Cows Come Home, but that 267 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: those are kind of like the the the beefy candidates there. 268 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: And not gonna lie. 269 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: One of my one of my other thoughts was, hmm, 270 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: there's a potential fallout of this, a little incentive to 271 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: keep job in Toledo, a little bit like just a thought, 272 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: not fully fleshed out, but just a thought. Is that 273 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: the easier thing to do? 274 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: Just the thought? I don't know, but may that'll be wrong. 275 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I think Kintami Aida becomes a huge X 276 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: factor in all this. Obviously he was bad last year, 277 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: but I was kind of the belief that tigers were 278 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: going to give him run to try to make this 279 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: rotation or just throw him out there for the first 280 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: six weeks of the season and hope things are better. 281 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: They've talked about revamping his offseason plan. They're paying him 282 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: ten million, but adding Flirty to the mix, like you 283 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: almost have to make a decision, and if you're trying 284 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: to win the al Central, like are we going to 285 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: start with Jackson Joe? Are we going to give kinto 286 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: my Ata some courtesy starts and see how he does? 287 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: And what does this mean the people who probably are 288 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: not feeling great right now tonight is case he mightes 289 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: in Matt Manning because already what was an uphill battle 290 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: to make the roster and sing for Kater Montero Brent 291 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: Herder just got a lot steeper. Now you can never 292 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: have enough pitching. As I think I said last week, 293 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: there is a world where there's opportunities for all these guys, 294 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: and that's how yours had seemed pretty intent when given 295 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: job run to make this opening day rotation. But yeah, 296 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: that question now kind of looms now if there's some 297 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: world where they just don't think he's ready, where they 298 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: are committed to Kintamata or maybe Casey Maies just looks 299 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: amazing in spring training, Like you can now justify starting 300 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: job in a if you wanted to, I would argue, 301 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: wouldn't it be kind of sick if you didn't and 302 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: you just ran out Scoople Flarity Olsen job, Like no 303 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: one wants to see that coming. I don't think that 304 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: would be tough on imposing hitters. 305 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And also it's not specific to Flarity, but a 306 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: guy that like mentally you think is like a bounce 307 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: back candidate that could like just make this rotation in 308 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: better like you get like results in back, you know 309 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: what I mean? 310 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: Like like that, sometimes I think. 311 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: People forget how how good he was, you know, pre injury, 312 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: and so like all of a sudden this becomes like 313 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: a very very stealth and deep starring rotation and then 314 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: the bullpen coming together as well, Like I said Tommycanley, 315 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: formerly of the Yankees one year, seven point seventy five 316 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: million dollars, couldn't get to the eight but sell for 317 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: seven point seventy five. This guy is a change up wizard, Cody, 318 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: He's a change up wizard. 319 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: Well, was it like. 320 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: Sixty sixty one? Sixty one? Sixty one percent of the time. 321 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: He throws the change up sixty one in a row, 322 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: one consecutive change ups last year in the postseason, and 323 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: he throws the change up overall. I don't have the 324 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: number in front of me, but more than seventy percent 325 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: of the time, that's a lot of change ups. It's 326 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: literally not changing anything up, which makes them a fascinating 327 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: picture to me. But it's a it's it's it's really good. 328 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of the better sheer like singular 329 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: pitches in baseball. I didn't really speculate it on Kingley 330 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: much all off season because he doesn't have a closer experience. 331 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: He has eight career saves. We kind of thought maybe 332 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: the Tigers were looking for a ninth inning guy, and 333 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: there's not necessarily a reason Kinley couldn't be that. But 334 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: I think he fits in perfectly with like the mix 335 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: and match style you now have will vest Bo Briski, 336 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: Jason Foley, Tyler Holton, Kainlee. These guys you can run 337 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 3: them out in whatever you want, in whatever order you want, 338 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: depending on matchups. One thing I love about Kainlee almost 339 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 3: even career splits, gets out righty's and gets out lefties. 340 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 3: I think the Tigers, we know they're obsessed with their matchups. 341 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: They love that because Will vest is very similar. Jason 342 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: Foley last year was very similar. Tyler Holton is very similar. 343 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: You can't really match up against these guys. It's going 344 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: to be harder for opposing managers to make their a J. 345 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: Hinch late Gay moves. When Tommy Kingley's on the mound 346 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 3: and neither sided hitter really has an advantage against him, 347 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: he has a changeup that has its own of depth, 348 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 3: and it remains to be seen. Look, maybe the Tigers 349 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: are big spinders now. Maybe they could go get Alex 350 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 3: Bregman and kim Lee Jansen or something. You know, when 351 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: Dad get the people excited. I don't know if that's 352 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 3: gonna happen. Almost seems like far fetched when you add 353 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: in the flared when you add flarity in the mix. 354 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: But when you strengthen your rotation with a move like flarity, 355 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: maybe you don't need another reliever as much. Kainley is 356 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: really good. You look at his numbers the past three years. 357 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 3: He's just been a phenomenal pitcher. And the Tigers get him, 358 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: you know, want a pretty good value one year seven 359 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: point seventy five for a guy who's had a sub 360 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: three r er A I believe three years in a row. 361 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: Like hard not to like that, a little weird being 362 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: so effusively like positive about everything, But I really like 363 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: both of these two moves. 364 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: So here, here's one of the things that goes top 365 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: of mind with these two moves is that if you're 366 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: following the Tigers, if you're a Tigers fan for the 367 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: past we'll say fifteen or ten we'll say ten years, 368 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: ten years, you're seeing you see transactions made by the 369 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: quote unquote good teams, and you think, well, yeah. 370 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: Could have done that, could have done that. 371 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: And hell, I've said it on this podcast over the 372 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: offseason with some of the you know, like the Bellinger 373 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: moves and some other kind of moves. I was like, 374 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: that seemed like something that could be done. This is 375 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: two pretty close together moves. Cody that if I was like, 376 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the Royals and the Tigers are obviously like 377 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: right there, but some they're not like looking up at 378 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: the Tigers. But if I'm a team that I think 379 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: like I want to be twenty twenty five's Tigers, I'm like, well, 380 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: that hurts my chances in my mind, because these are 381 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: two moves that are very feasible. Most teams, almost every 382 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: team could have done these moves, and somehow it worked 383 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: out in the tigers favor. So again that speaks to 384 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: me about like the appro of Scott Harris and and 385 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: the confidence that they have to be able to identify traits. 386 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: And then there's they're pitch jobs as well. So there's 387 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: a pun right there. They're pitch jobs as well to 388 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: get these guys to come in and we're not We're 389 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: not gonna we still we still have time to kind 390 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: of answer this question. But now my mind will go 391 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: We'll start wandering too, what is the like, what is 392 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: the desired makeup of this team as a whole? So 393 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: you bring in you just bring up like the main 394 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: moves I would say of the offseason. So that's Cop, 395 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: that's Torres, you know, Flaherty and Kinley. And how does 396 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: that contribute to what this team is going to try 397 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: to do to win games to win the AL Central. 398 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: We don't have to talk about it right now, but 399 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm going to because it like 400 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: the the positive of being flexible and not having a 401 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, plan that you have to put in ceement 402 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: is that like everything kind of goes toward the same thing. 403 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: I feel like bringing flarerty in had like forces you 404 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: to kind of pivot a little bit of what you anticipated, 405 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: like your team makeup to be and the Torres thing 406 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: moving col to first base like that, that's all part 407 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: of it, you see what I'm saying. Like they've had 408 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: to be flexible, So I'm kind of curious what they 409 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: see as the way forward. And maybe Bregman is the 410 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: last piece and everything makes sense, but right, you see 411 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 412 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, a couple of big questions still to be answered, 413 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 3: or at least one very big question still to be answered. 414 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll hear from Scott Harris, we'll hear from 415 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: Jack Flaherty here in the next couple of days. I 416 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: don't know, you know, Like I said, I don't know 417 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 3: when we're going to get the answers to these questions 418 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: and when the whole puzzle is going to come together. 419 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 3: But I think you feel a lot better about the 420 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 3: makeup of the twenty twenty five Tigers than you did 421 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 3: just a few hours ago with the addition to Jack Flaherty. 422 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know that It's just remarkable that never happens. 423 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: We talked about it the trade deadline. It never happens 424 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: that the guys comes back and signs with the team like. 425 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: It has happened. 426 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: But there's not like a lot of standout examples, right, so, 427 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: uh so, kudos kudo, I mean credit where credits due. 428 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: Kudos to Scott, you know, kudos to AJ and the 429 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: pitching regimen. I'm sure there was some sort of uh 430 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: sales pitch involved there too. They had to sign off 431 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: on it because you know, AJ's looking at the same 432 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: names that I'm looking at in terms of who his 433 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: options are. And and shout out to Jack because you know, 434 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: one of the staples of baseball these past couple of 435 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: years is guys holding out for the longer or and 436 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: sometimes bigger sometimes both contracts right and not always getting 437 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: it or getting it in a situation that you just 438 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: know you're not gonna be like fulfilled. And again I 439 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: don't judge anybody for you know, trying to uh to 440 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: make as much money as possible, but it feels like 441 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: Jack found himself a situation where he's gonna make some money, 442 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: he still has a career to borrow a team term 443 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: optionality because they'll be at max thirty one right when 444 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: when this contracts up and he puts and he puts 445 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: himself in what what is a comfortable and competitive position, 446 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, to be playing meaningful baseball. And again he 447 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: kind of spoke into existence. So I give a lot 448 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: of give him credit for that. Was saying like, hey, 449 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: you know we probably would have made a run too. Well, 450 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: now's your chance, Jack? 451 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: Now? Now is now is your chance? Let's see? 452 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: Was that to be flesh out all our thoughts for now? 453 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: Cody on a Sunday. 454 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 3: Night, I think that, yeah, yeah, we're trying to createm 455 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: a lot in here. We didn't have some Kim signed 456 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: with the Tampa Bay Rays. You talking about a good 457 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 3: looking deal. That was the guy I really liked. Again, 458 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: not sure you know what that means for the Tigers 459 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 3: pursuit of bregnant other than probably your best backup option 460 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: is now off the table. I think that's all I'm 461 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 3: going to be able to cram into this episode. We've 462 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 3: got a Trek Scooble interview running on Monday, so hope 463 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: you guys will check that out and we will be 464 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: back later in the week with a lot more thoughts 465 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: on the happenings of the Tigers. 466 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: Yep, so we had asked for action, We got action, baby. 467 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: You can follow us on x formally known as Twitter 468 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: at Cody staven Hagen. 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