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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory foul Territory Networks Cubs podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. Before we

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Speaker 1: kick off the show, I wanted to read an email.

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Speaker 1: It was a really kind email from our friend John Rose.

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Speaker 1: He bought a North Side Territory t shirt. He wrote

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Speaker 1: Bruce Levine's account. That's I mean, that's a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: I was. I literally went back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot until I saw that I had forgotten

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Speaker 1: Was like ESPN Cubs, ESPN Chicago Cubs, something like that.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, the trade deadline is an active time, so we

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Speaker 1: know you're you're hungry for information. We are going to

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Speaker 1: do our best to give it to you in this episode. Patrick,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a trade deadline episode yet again.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the hot thing to talk about. We're

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Speaker 2: not going to stop.

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Speaker 1: It was a it was a difficult week. I'd say

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Speaker 1: I liked the weekend. I thought the Cubs looked really

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Speaker 1: good over the weekend. Uh this week against Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: that was not their best you know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it was their worst series.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, be hyperbolic. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: They just didn't.

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Speaker 1: The pitching is under the microscope now, we you know,

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about it for over a month. That

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Speaker 1: is the number one goal of the trade deadline, and

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Speaker 1: I think it was just emphasiz with the performance against

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Speaker 1: Matthew Boyd, an absolute stud shut them out, and then

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Speaker 1: the Royal still scored twenty runs in that series. That's

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Speaker 1: I mean, just like it just really puts a spotlight

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was perfect timing too for our purposes

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Speaker 3: to have seth Lugo on the mound on was it

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Speaker 3: ninety two degrees at first pitch? It was just gross,

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Speaker 3: great day to hit. And you know, Lugo well before

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Speaker 3: this was on the Cubs radar as like an interesting

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Speaker 3: guy to plug into rotation. I think stat cast lists

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Speaker 3: him as having ten pitches. I think it's very impressive

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Speaker 3: how he took control of his career and said I

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Speaker 3: But this guy over the years just proved himself in

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Speaker 3: You know that the cups are on every single player

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to be too hard on Colin Ray.

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Speaker 2: He is going like he has to be perfect.

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Speaker 1: And he wasn't. He he made mistakes to the wrong players.

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Speaker 1: But Colin Ray has, you know, really admirable what he's

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Speaker 1: Wednesday was not a good good day for him to

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Speaker 1: be a huge ad in Chris Boobache. We didn't see

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Speaker 2: You add him, you're getting impact now and then.

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Speaker 2: I believe does he have one or two years after this?

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Speaker 1: Who We've been doing research on so many names that

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Speaker 3: I believe Ken Rosenthal or colleague wrote that Lugo is

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Speaker 3: I think it's a I think project. You back, you

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Speaker 3: Joe Madden likes to quote, well, was that Will Ferrell movie?

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Speaker 1: Well, he's got the type of stuff that makes you think,

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Speaker 3: No doubt. And when you look at the landscape. We've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he slots into the playoff rotation immediately

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Speaker 1: You know this this time of year, Patrick is fascinating

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Speaker 1: in the sense that what teams decide could flip in

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Speaker 1: It completely changes the thinking, like, this is this is

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Speaker 3: They're three under five and a half back playing Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: It's a front office that wants to compete. Absolutely, an

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Zach Gallen, Merrill Kelly. I'm sure teams

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Speaker 1: I like Kelly is he's kind of like a metronome

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Speaker 2: It's like, let's talk about them as the best team

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Speaker 1: That's very easy discussion to have, and it's a good

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a team that is going to be trading players.

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Speaker 1: really good pitcher, also under control. Andrew Heaney isn't It

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Speaker 1: doesn't move the needle for me.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: They need pitching, so if he's available, and that's what

439
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Speaker 1: you can get. But he of the pitchers that we've

440
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Speaker 1: named that that are playing decently well, Like he's probably

441
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Speaker 1: lower on the list for me. I get it, you

442
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Speaker 1: need pitching to go after him, but is he Is

443
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Speaker 1: he that much better than Colin Ray? Right now you

444
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Speaker 1: need someone that just fills the spot because of Tyne's injury.

445
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Speaker 1: But Mitch Keller is interesting because I think he's solid,

446
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Speaker 1: but also the type of guy you get him into

447
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Speaker 1: the Cub system, maybe he takes it another level. David

448
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: Bednar has always been on the radar. I feel like

449
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Speaker 1: every like whenever when when he broke out that year

450
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Speaker 1: he broke out and it seemed like he saved his

451
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Speaker 1: best for the Cubs. Uh, there was a stretch there

452
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Speaker 1: where when he came in it was like, Okay, the

453
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Speaker 1: game's over. I think he's a little older and the

454
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Speaker 1: stuff is in you know, quote unquote decline, but he's

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Speaker 1: still he's still a great reliever. And if he's not

456
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Speaker 1: your obvious closer, he's he is a co closer, probably

457
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Speaker 1: with Polentia if you can pry him away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like Keller is kind of illustrative of

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Speaker 3: just this market at large, of you know, he was

460
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Speaker 3: an all start out that long ago. He's having a

461
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Speaker 3: good season on a bad team. But you know, the

462
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Speaker 3: Pirates are under pressure here. This front office has been

463
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Speaker 3: on the hot seat for a long time. They're gonna

464
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Speaker 3: try and just ring every last bit of prospect value

465
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Speaker 3: out of this deal. And you have to take on

466
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Speaker 3: a significant amount of contract in terms of years and dollars,

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Speaker 3: and like, if you're the Cubs, is that overall cost

468
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Speaker 3: gonna be worth it for a guy who you know

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Speaker 3: probably isn't jumping the line in front of shoulder or

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Speaker 3: boy to start a playoff game, you're gonna be getting

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Speaker 3: tie own back as a nice piece. I think maybe

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Speaker 3: you aim a little higher or think a little shorter

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Speaker 3: term here. Like we always say the cupsould spend more money.

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Speaker 3: We're not like worried about that. But as a baseball operation,

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Speaker 3: if you're trying to like maneuver this here, if you're

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Speaker 3: not going to be spending like the Dodgers, like, is

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Speaker 3: Mitch Keller the guy you want to build around at

478
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Speaker 3: this moment, Because once you do that, you're taking away

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Speaker 3: from the future in a way that's not as obvious

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Speaker 3: as just trading a prospect, And when you combine them both,

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Speaker 3: it's a lot. Maybe that one comes down close to

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Speaker 3: the deadline and it starts to make more sense. But

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Speaker 3: that was kind of our read at this moment.

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Speaker 1: A team that probably wasn't expected to be among the

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Speaker 1: sellers at the start of the season, but very clearly

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514
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: at least one move and they're likely to make more.

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Speaker 1: Charlie Morton is someone that has had a lot of experience,

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Speaker 1: a lot of postseason experience.

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Speaker 2: He's pitched in big games.

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Speaker 1: He's pitched really well in big games that can't be overlooked.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: He's he's got a five fifty eight e R.

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Speaker 2: That's not good.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a really bad, but over his like

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Speaker 1: a nine ish last nine ish starts. I believe he

524
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Speaker 1: may have even been moved out of the rotation. I

525
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Speaker 1: can't maybe I may be wrong on that, but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe it was like late April they moved

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Speaker 3: him out and then you know, not long after they

528
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: fire brand and hide Morton works his way back. But

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Speaker 3: I believe, well, first start out of the Altar break

530
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: was just bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the first start out of the Altar break was

533
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: really bad for him. Other than that, he's like for

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00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: i'd say for a few like outside of that awful April,

535
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: he's been pretty good. I mean since like even counting

536
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Speaker 1: the bullpen like he has like an under four e

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Speaker 1: r a uh since since the very end of April.

538
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Speaker 1: Not dominant, not bad, like the type of veteran presence

539
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Speaker 1: that you could you could put in a rotation that

540
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: desperately needs a starter. He's he's pitching better, and it

541
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Speaker 1: would be like, you know, bet on, bet on the

542
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: back of the baseball card, bet on the experience.

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Speaker 2: Uh, he's not completely done.

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Speaker 1: Uh so you know, is it is it the exciting move?

545
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Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but it's it feels like

546
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Speaker 1: one that when Jed Hoyer talks about trusting what a

547
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Speaker 1: guy's done, Uh that you know, Charlie Morton could fit

548
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Speaker 1: that mold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're also in this period here where every

550
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Speaker 3: start is is magnified. You're looking not just that the

551
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Speaker 3: mattress was just simply is a guy walking off the

552
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Speaker 3: mound like, you know, shaking his arm or holding his shoulder.

553
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: And Orioles starter, Zach Efflyn just came off the injury list,

554
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: looked pretty good. It was a back injury that you know,

555
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: seemed to be more manageable than say a troubling our issue.

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Speaker 3: Guy's got some nice postseason experience. I just seems like

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Speaker 3: one of those kind of Cubs infrastructure guys. And I

558
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Speaker 3: believe he's rental, you know, not gonna you know, kind

559
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: of have to break the bank there. So definitely Orioles

560
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: a team on the radar here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would look at I mean, Zach Eflin

562
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Speaker 1: looks like a pretty good picture to me. Like a

563
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Speaker 1: nice addition. How about the White Sox Patrick brad Keller,

564
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Speaker 1: Chris Flexen, now Adrian Houser.

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Speaker 3: Why not started Versus showed him ANAGA like, let's see

566
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 3: that'll be a classic, you know, showcase type of event

567
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: for mister Houser.

568
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Speaker 1: We got a guy with a seventeen point seven percent

569
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Speaker 1: strikeout rate but a one eighty nine era.

570
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: Solid ground ball rate.

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Speaker 1: You know, like he's he's pitched for Craig Council before.

572
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Speaker 1: H you know, are you betting on that's that's the

573
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Speaker 1: guy that maybe the opposite of Charlie Morton. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, do we just see his best of

575
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: the season as far as results, it's a risk.

576
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: It is also a depth move.

577
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Speaker 1: It would be it would be like similar to just

578
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Speaker 1: adding another Colin Ray to get you through a couple

579
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Speaker 1: of games, get you through the season.

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Speaker 2: This is not someone you'd say he's starting in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, like we said a lot that

582
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Speaker 1: they need arms, they need depth, they need they need pitchers,

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Speaker 1: and and he if he continues to pitch, well, if

584
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Speaker 1: they're seeing something that they're like, hey, I don't care

585
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: about the strike out right, this guy is getting weak

586
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: contact and in front of our defense it'll continue. Maybe

587
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: maybe it's enough to keep it to Adam and you know,

588
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: use him as a depth piece.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think you know, the White Socks are

590
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: a team we don't expect the Cubs to make deals with. Like,

591
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: let's be honest, there are teams like the Orioles or

592
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: the Marlins that makes sense, or there's a dialogue or

593
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: you know, in the case of the Dimexs, their relationships

594
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: the athletics kind of do their own thing. These are

595
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: two names that are going to be out there. Just

596
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: there's no metric for this. But this does not seem

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Speaker 3: very Cub like. That would be kind of what I'm

598
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: looking for here. I'm talking about Luis Severino and Mason Miller.

599
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Speaker 3: Just don't think the Cubs are the type to go

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Speaker 3: all in at this moment for a closer, given what

601
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: it take, and you know, seven sevenos, there's a lot

602
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: of money left on that deal. I know he's been

603
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: a lot better on the road than at home, but

604
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 3: just does not seem like, Okay, that's like our move

605
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: is going to be like a disgruntled pitcher in Sacramento. Yea,

606
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: and the guy who's been really good at times in

607
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: his career but has not have that steady long track

608
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: record that maybe'd be looking for. If you're gonna have

609
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: to give up a lot of prospects and commit a

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Speaker 3: lot of future dollars at this particular juncture of this

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Speaker 3: Cub's build.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean Mason Miller would be a great ad.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely is someone who probably hasn't had his best first

614
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Speaker 1: half the first few months of the season, and maybe

615
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: maybe the value isn't as high as it was a

616
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Speaker 1: year ago. So yes, great, it would be a great

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00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: ads still going to be an astronomical price, would be

618
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: my guess. And then Severino is I agree too much money?

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Speaker 1: I think to to like bet on that right now,

620
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: Like if you're if you're just betting on a guy

621
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Speaker 1: in an expiring contract thinking he has a better second

622
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Speaker 1: half or better final two months, Sure that's a lot

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Speaker 1: of money on that deal for someone that doesn't miss

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00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: bats anymore or misbats at a high rate. Uh, there's

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00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: a there's a group of bullpen arms that are really interesting.

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00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: There's a couple that you know are are on expiring deals.

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Speaker 1: And then some impact dudes that that would be under control. Finnegan,

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00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: We've talked about him, Kyle Finnigan, I think kind of

629
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Speaker 1: fits the Cubs system in a sense. Uh Uh, he

630
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Speaker 1: can play up in front of the Cubs defense.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Rys ill Iglesias is someone that.

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Speaker 1: May I don't want to say, but fits that mold

633
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: that we were talking about with Charlie Morton.

634
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: Right. Maybe he's not having his best season. Maybe this

635
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: stuff's not exactly where it was. Do they see something

636
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: that Okay? Projecting forward for the final two months, we

637
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: think he can be his best self.

638
00:35:59,400 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Those are two expiring deals I think would make sense,

640
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: are gettable, maybe not immediate. Insert them into Daniel Palencia's

641
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: role though, I maybe Iglesias because he's done that before,

642
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: but he's not pitching at that level right now.

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00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the other I think we can kind

644
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: of circle a division here, and that's kind of where

645
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: we started of what is the al Central gonna do?

646
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: We looked at the Royals starting pitching. There are two clubs,

647
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: in particular, the Twins and the Guardians that have those

648
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 3: back end relievers that are interesting. What do you got

649
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 3: on them? Yeah?

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00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: I mean Johann Duran is a stud just I mean,

651
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: one of the best relievers in baseball. If he's available,

652
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: you pay up the price and go get him. What

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Speaker 1: is it like he throws one hundred and two and

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Speaker 1: has an upper nineties like splitter or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The guy's a freak so good. I think gripping jacks,

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Speaker 1: you know like that. He's kind of interesting in the

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Speaker 1: sense that I don't think the era is great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got an above for R but he strikes guys

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Speaker 1: out like crazy, doesn't walk guys. I do wonder, like,

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Speaker 1: is that something that if he's playing with the Cubs,

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Speaker 1: plays up.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't watch him enough to feel one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: comfortable in saying that, But certainly two names that I

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Speaker 1: know are on the Cubs radar. Jacks is someone that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people in that front office like a lot.

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Speaker 1: I just don't, you know, can they prime away? Neither

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Speaker 1: of those guys are unexpiring deals. They're gonna cost a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was noticeable being in Minnesota before the All

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Speaker 3: Star break and just how the Cubs kind of talked

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Speaker 3: about the back end of their bullpen that are just

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Speaker 3: kind of like, well, if the Twins get a lead

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Speaker 3: and like kind of don't mess things up, like they've

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Speaker 3: just got like absolute, shut down, lockdown bullpen and that's

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Speaker 3: how that's how they win their games. But if they

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Speaker 3: don't get that early lead, if they don't catch the ball,

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Speaker 3: like they're they're in trouble. They're not that good. But

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Speaker 3: they have those like they have that October tipe A bullpen. Again,

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Speaker 3: everything we said earlier about Joe. Ryan generally applies to

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Speaker 3: that group.

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Speaker 5: And then.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, we're going back to Cleveland again, Emmanuel Class.

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Speaker 3: I don't know Guardians what they always sort of listen. Yes,

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Speaker 3: they're very they're sort of hard to deal with, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not gonna give them away for nothing. They're

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Speaker 1: not giving them away for nothing. But but they listen

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Speaker 1: on everyone. That's their philosophy. It doesn't matter what's going on,

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll listen on anyone, and especially when they're not

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Speaker 1: obviously in it. I don't know what their record is

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Speaker 1: off the top of my head, but I think they're

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Speaker 1: below five hundred or hovering around five hundred's that's the exactly.

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Speaker 2: When they'll listen on anyone. They'll they'll go any direction.

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Speaker 1: They they will trade guys with a ton of years left,

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Speaker 1: guys on expiring deals, whatever.

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Speaker 2: If you can give them value, they'll do it.

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Speaker 1: All, right, Patrick, Those are twenty two names of pictures

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Speaker 1: that you know, the Cubs are looking at everyone. We

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Speaker 1: could we could have made that list forty. Probably the

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Speaker 1: Cubs are looking at pitching. You know, there's there's plenty

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Speaker 1: of names to to consider. Over this next week. We

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Speaker 1: got a week left. There will be moves there. There

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Speaker 1: will be moves made. The Cubs will add pitching for sure.

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Speaker 1: I guess the only question is who it is, how

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Speaker 1: big of an impact. I think this this week has

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Speaker 1: shown us how important it is to add some more pitching,

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Speaker 1: both in the bullpen and in the in the rotation.

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Speaker 1: Really solidify that you have an opportunity to do something

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Speaker 1: fun this season. I don't think they. I think they

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Speaker 1: it the same way. I think the front office, I

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Speaker 1: think counsel, all those guys. I think they see it

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Speaker 1: the same way. And we're gonna hear some things this

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Speaker 1: week and see some see some stuff that hopefully the

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Speaker 1: fans enjoy. All Right, Patrick, thanks so much for listening

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Speaker 1: to everyone. This is Northside Territory. We'll we'll be back

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Speaker 1: with one more episode to wrap up this week and

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Speaker 1: then it's three the White Sox of that huge series

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Speaker 1: in Milwaukee right before the deadline. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: listening to everyone. Make sure to rate, review, subscribe, subscribe

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Speaker 1: Patrick and I are on top of all things Cubs.

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Speaker 2: Thanks everyone, Take