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Speaker 1: A hormone is a chemical, but it's actually influencing every

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Speaker 1: It gets metabolized in the wrong direction. So cortisol is

436
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Speaker 1: a very important part of men's health as well. But

437
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 1: for them it shows up as anger, It shows up

438
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 1: as anxiety or depression. It shows up as weight gain,

439
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 1: especially right here around the middle. It shows up as

440
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,479
Speaker 1: crashing testosterone levels for sure, it shows up that way too,

441
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: And then it shows up as metabolic disease, so heart disease, diabetes,

442
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 1: like all these different things. Many men have their first

443
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 1: heart attack not because of family history, but because of

444
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: extreme extreme stress, you know. And so I think that

445
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 1: we're just not talking about it with men, but it

446
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 1: exists in men as.

447
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 3: Well, and one of the symptoms in women for high

448
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 3: cultureal levels very similar.

449
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: I think it's similar in the sense of, you know, well,

450
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 1: we're a little bit more obvious, I guess, because what

451
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: high courts all will often do is it'll take our

452
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: periods away. So if you lose your periods sometimes it's

453
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 1: due to that it'll also cause low progesterone, which will

454
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,239
Speaker 1: then present as irregular periods again waking up between two

455
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: and four o'clock in the morning, heart palpitations, you know.

456
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 1: So those are some of the female symptoms. And then

457
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: as it progresses, as we go through those different stages,

458
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: then definitely you'll start to see things like the hair loss,

459
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, the cognitive dysfunction and things like that. But

460
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: I think cordinol directly impacts our cycles and then the

461
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: ability to get pregnant. And then if we go through

462
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: the stages of women, like women going into perimenopause and enopause,

463
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: high cortisol definitely impacts weight and weight gain and inflammation

464
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 1: and then hot flashes and night sweats.

465
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Speaker 3: Are there specific foods or things that women should keep

466
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Speaker 3: in their diet to help balance their cortisol levels or

467
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Speaker 3: just you know, for their hormone health.

468
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Speaker 1: What should people be eating for good hormone health? I

469
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: think that's so important to talk about cortisol. One of

470
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 1: the things that'll do, you know, when you have higher

471
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: cortisol levels is your blood sugar will be unstable, so

472
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: you'll flip flop between high and low blood sugars. Very

473
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Speaker 1: quickly to stabilize that. If you're in a high cortisol state,

474
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Speaker 1: you need protein, you know, like eating consistently throughout the day.

475
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: No fasting, none of that business, but eating consistently throughout

476
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Speaker 1: the day every four hours or so, getting in the

477
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: healthy fats, getting in the fibers that keeps blood sugar stable.

478
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: But that also helps with metabolizing all the hormones and

479
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: doing everything you the body's supposed to do. So to me,

480
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: that's the first rule of THEMB when it comes to eating.

481
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Speaker 1: I think what we do when we're in a high

482
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Speaker 1: and we're all guilty of this, me too. When we're

483
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Speaker 1: in a high result state, is we usually reach for sugar, absolutely, salts, yes,

484
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: caffeine or alcohol.

485
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: It's always all the things that you say that you write, or.

486
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: Even carbohydrates, right, some people crave like bread and starch,

487
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, So that's what we usually reach for. But

488
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: those are giving us like a quick dopamine hit, and

489
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 1: we turn around we want more and more and more

490
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 1: and more of that. So that's not really solving the problem.

491
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: So you know, those are band aids really thinking instead,

492
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: So I tell people that are in a high cortisol

493
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: state or in a trauma state, or maybe they're just

494
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: going through a phase of their life, whatever it is.

495
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: You know, wake up in the morning, start the day

496
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: with that high protein meal, because then you will naturally

497
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: set yourself up for the director of blood sugar through

498
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the day and you won't have those constantly.

499
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: I want sugar, when alcohol, I want this one. That

500
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: buzzing will kind of go away.

501
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: Okay, great, So start your morning with a high protein meal. Yes,

502
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: you mentioned periods earlier, and I really wanted to talk

503
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Speaker 3: about this because you highlight it in your book about

504
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: the pill and birth control that a lot of girls

505
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 3: upon from a very young age, whether it's to for

506
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: their acne, whether it's for terrible period pains, whatever it is.

507
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Speaker 3: I would love to hear one your perspective on each

508
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: of the different types of birth control that you recommend,

509
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: well that people have recommended, and the impact that it.

510
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Speaker 2: Actually has on the body.

511
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Speaker 3: Like, let's just start off with the pill that people

512
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Speaker 3: that girls upon from the young age. What are the

513
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: repercussions of it and how should it really be given?

514
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: Definitely, Well, first of all, if you need birth control,

515
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: that's a different conversation than if you need hormone balancing,

516
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: and we need to separate those conversations out. I think

517
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: many young girls are put on birth control not because

518
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: they need birth control, but because we're trying to regulate

519
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: their periods or their acne or whatever it is, their

520
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: mood even you know, there's a lot of using the

521
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: birth control pill for that. Now, the problem with the

522
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: birth control pill is taking over your hormone cycle, and

523
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: it's putting a bigger bi burden on the liver, and

524
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: it's also depleting the body of key nutrients. We know

525
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: the birth control for example, girls on birth control pills

526
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: have lower levels of B vitamins, lower levels of zinc

527
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: and magnesium, you know, for example, and even iron. So

528
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: these are things that we need to either replace if

529
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: we're going to put somebody on birth control. But we

530
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: also have to understand the fallout of a liver that's

531
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: having trouble metabolizing this dose of hormone and these nutrient deficiencies.

532
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 1: The fallout is often cognitive health and mental health, right,

533
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: so there are more mood swings, or maybe there's more

534
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: issues with focus or attention. So the cocktail many young

535
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: girls end up on as an ADHD medication or birth

536
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: control pill, you know, and then maybe something else for skin.

537
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's like a medication after medication,

538
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: after medication, something for anxiety. And so what we want

539
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: to help them understand is, yes, if you need birth control,

540
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 1: we're not trying to go back one hundred years. If

541
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Speaker 1: you need birth control for birth control, go on birth control,

542
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: and we can talk about the different forms just a minute.

543
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: But when you go on the pill, you need a

544
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: kind of a companion plan to being on that pill,

545
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: which is what liver work are you doing? You know,

546
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: what gut work are you doing? Are we replacing these

547
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: nutrients so that the pill is limited to what it's

548
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: supposed to do and not just something that you're on forever.

549
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: The problem I have with putting girls, women, anybody on

550
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: the pill. They're perimouenopausal women on the pill to manage

551
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: hormones too. The problem we have with putting women straight

552
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: on the pill is that you're not doing the investigative

553
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: work of understanding what their hormone issue really is. And

554
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: just because you put somebody on a pill doesn't mean

555
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: you solve the hormone issue, right, You're bandating it until

556
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: they come off that pill and have to deal with

557
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: it again, you know. So that's the reason we have

558
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: an issue. It's important to understand the hormone pattern and

559
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: then decide on the modality of treatment, whether that is

560
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: holistic and it's gutwork and nutrition and you know, going

561
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: about it that way, or whether it is medication and

562
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: birth control pills and stuff like that.

563
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so said.

564
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Speaker 3: I know so many of my friends who were put

565
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: on the pill when they within a year of getting

566
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: on their period, bad period crams, getting a bit of acne,

567
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: and they got put on the pill. To the point

568
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 3: where one of my closest friends she'd been on the

569
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: pill for ten years and had never taken a break,

570
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: and she got to the age where she was like,

571
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: you know what, I want to have a partner, I

572
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: want to have kids in a few years, like I

573
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: need to.

574
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Speaker 1: And I was like, have you ever come off the pill?

575
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: Like have you had a period? And she had it,

576
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: She's never had one, And I was like, and I

577
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: was thinking, like, how.

578
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: Has your doctor not told you that you need to

579
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: be taking breaks?

580
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: Number one?

581
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: Number two?

582
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: I imagine like your period is also an excretion method

583
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: in your body of like one connection to your body.

584
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: But two, there's so many things.

585
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 3: That our body needs to get rid of on a

586
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: monthly basis as a woman, and you're almost so far

587
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: disconnected from that one system that also makes us a woman,

588
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: like that that is part of that is so different

589
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: to a male body. That is like something that's sick.

590
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: Defies a lot of what we are able to do

591
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: as women. And to not be in touch with that

592
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: was one, But then also how it then impacts a

593
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: lot of women after coming off it, because if you're

594
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: not getting your period, I assume then you don't know

595
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 3: whether you've got picos or not because you're not aware

596
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 3: of what's happening. So you could come off the pill

597
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: and start realizing that.

598
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: You actually don't have regular periods.

599
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 3: You actually have a lot of hormonal imbalances that you

600
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: were not aware of because you weren't sure whether you

601
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: are having your period regularly or not. And so it's

602
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: just it ends up being this really vicious cycle. Because

603
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: then I wonder, is this many studies that show whether

604
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: if people have been on the pill for a while,

605
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: whether it impacts their fertility or not.

606
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: I don't think their direct studies there show that, but

607
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: I do think there's a relationship. First of all, peakos

608
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: that you mentioned pcos, I mean, is increasing dramatically, and

609
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: why do you think that is? Part of it? I

610
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: think is environmental. You know, we have a higher toxic

611
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: clothe than we've had historically. Part of it is the

612
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: incredible stress going back to cortisol that many young women

613
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: are under nowadays, right, They're trying to accomplish things in

614
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: different realms, and I think that's that heightened stress is

615
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: an issue. So there's a genetic change there. But part

616
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: of it might be the pill, you know, part of

617
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: it might just be making the liver super boggy, you know,

618
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: slowing down detox pathways. So now these hormone patterns are

619
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: exaggerating as you move, like through each decade of life, right,

620
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: So that could be another very real reason why some

621
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: women are having an issue. And again the reason it's

622
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: hard to nail is because picos and pcos. It's autoimmune,

623
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: and that's always three or four different hits. It's usually

624
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: not a single singular hit that you can blame for everything.

625
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: So there are many factors involved in the expression of

626
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: I was reading a statistics the other day. Fifty no,

627
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: not even fifty seventy percent of women of Southeast Asian

628
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: origin have PCOS seventy No, fantastic a varian syndrome. That's huge.

629
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: That is huge.

630
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: But also when you're saying that stat it doesn't surprise

631
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: me because I think about within even let's say five

632
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: women that I know, I could say one in five

633
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: of those women have peacas. So actually it sounds like

634
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: a large number. But now that I'm thinking about different

635
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: friend circles, I'm like, yeah, that.

636
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: It's so underdiagnosed. So maybe more than you realize, it's

637
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: a very underdiagnosed hormone pattern.

638
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: And I remember when I studied Diarbata, it was the

639
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: first time that I found out that period is not

640
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: supposed to be painful, and it's not supposed to actually, yes,

641
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: of course it disturbs certain things in the body, but

642
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: not to the extent that it debilitates you. And after

643
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: I understood that, you know, I used to get quite

644
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: painful cramps when I was younger, But as I grew

645
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: up and I started changing the way that I ate

646
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: and different things that I did.

647
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: When I was coming up to my period, I.

648
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: Actually stopped getting painful crambs, and so I was aware

649
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: of the fact that you can go from having painful

650
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: cramps to not having them by changing simple things in

651
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: your routine, in the food that you're eating, in the

652
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: environment that you're in, in what you're doing in the

653
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: lead up to your period or when you're on your period.

654
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: But I think unfortunately that's just not given as an option,

655
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: or I'm not educated, as an option before you even

656
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: get on a medication for the rest of your life.

657
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: There's no testing, there's no examining, there's no digging in

658
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: before you mail. Like it's one thing to know the information,

659
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, you've got PCOS. Therefore, here are your

660
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: five options. Which option do you want to go down?

661
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 3: Right?

662
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: But that's not really it. It's just like, okay, take

663
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: this kind of like what we talked about with me,

664
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: it was like, sort of just take this story. What

665
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: did you do to rebalance?

666
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm curious, Well, one, I mean, I feel like it

667
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: will happen over a span of time where you know,

668
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: it was kind of a knock on effect. I turned

669
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: I turn plant based, and that was like ten years ago,

670
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: and then I just then I studied nutrition and I

671
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: understood a bit more, and then I studied ioveda and

672
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: I became a dietitian and I understood that more. And

673
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: so I started making a lot of shifts in my

674
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: lifestyle and my diet without it being directly linked to

675
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: this I'm doing it because of my crams, but suddenly

676
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: getting to a point where I'm saying, oh, I'm on

677
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: my period and I actually feel okay, and I'm on

678
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: my period and I feel pretty well and like a

679
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: can function and I don't need to stop doing things,

680
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: and and so I'd say it was more of a

681
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: gradual change in being more conscious about what my body's

682
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: telling me. But also the foods that I'm eating were

683
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: less processed, Like it was such small things, like the

684
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: changes that you know you want to make for better

685
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: health are the changes you want to make for a

686
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: better period. And so it really wasn't like a rocket

687
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: science thing. It was more just how can I better

688
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: my health and in tend better the systems in my body?

689
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: And you know, it just had a knock on effect

690
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: in that way. But it's yeah, I think it's just

691
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 3: you know, it's just it was education.

692
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: You saw a change.

693
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: I saw such a change, whether it was the skin

694
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: that would you know, I'd get the spots on my

695
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: skin during that period, during that month, and I don't

696
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: get that anymore, and so, you know, it was very

697
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 3: little things, but I had to observe myself to actually know,

698
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: to actually be able to observe the changes. Yeah, we

699
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: spoke about peacos and I know that's something you've you've

700
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: had all much and was it is that you know,

701
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: from my understanding of friends who have been diagnosed with it,

702
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: it's a once you've got it, you've got it, and

703
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: that's it.

704
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: You just have to deal with it.

705
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: Could you share a little bit more about pacloss seeing

706
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: as it is seventy percent of Yes, definitely.

707
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, I feel like it's very

708
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: underdiagnosed because there and there was a consensus statement that

709
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: was put out in twenty twenty three that was talking

710
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: about the criteria and to this day, I still here clinicians,

711
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, say, and this is a myth that unless

712
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: you have cyst on your ovaries, you don't have pcos.

713
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: You know, so that's simply not true. You know, cis

714
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: are not the only diagnostic criteria for pcos. High insulin

715
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: is one, high androgens or another, and some people have

716
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: a mix. They might have cist in high insulin or

717
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: cyst and high drogens, or have high insulin and high drogens.

718
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: But it's a mix of those different patterns, right, But

719
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: basically polycystic ovarian syndrome, like the classic textbook version was

720
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: the super overweight person who's baldang with acne. That's the

721
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: most extreme of the extreme cases, right. There are a

722
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: lot of us that are somewhere on this spectrum from

723
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: symptoms as mild as a little bit of acne and

724
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: maybe higher blood sugars to somewhere in between where they

725
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: have a more exaggerated version of that to the very

726
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: extreme part that we just talked about. In our family, Yes,

727
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: there is PCOS exists, and I think there is a

728
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: genetic sort of susceptibility to it for sure, But it's

729
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: not that you always have it. You will always have

730
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: the diagnosis, but the hormone pattern is what you can manage.

731
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: So within our family of women, right, everyone from my

732
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: postmenopausal mom has an androgenic pattern high anddrogens even though

733
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: she's a menopause. So that's her version of PCOS and menopause,

734
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: right I right now and sort of this perimenopause menopausal

735
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: phase that I'm in, you know, have a version of

736
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: it as well. My younger or my middle sister had

737
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: more of the insulin blood sugar component of it. Still

738
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: does you know the baby's sister. There's one that uh,

739
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, super young, that one has again kind of

740
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: the weight component of it, but had a cyst on

741
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: her ovaries, the end of metriosis, all this other stuff.

742
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: So within one family, you're seeing multiple expressions of this

743
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: very you know, very singular autoimmune disease, which is the

744
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: way we need to think about pcos.

745
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: You know.

746
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: So yes, once you have the diagnosis, it's important to

747
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: be aware of it. There are hormone patterns that go

748
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: with it, and you will again shift in and out

749
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: of it depending on how you're taking care of yourself.

750
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Anytime I'm super stressed not taking my supplements, when I

751
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: have a cabinet in the office like that, I walk

752
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: right by every day, But I can get into a

753
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: space where like I just forget I ran out of this,

754
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: I need to grab it, and I'm like what I had,

755
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: you know, And so I don't remember to grab it.

756
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: Sure enough my hair falls again. It's like this, you know,

757
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: it comes right back. So as long as I'm on

758
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: my regimen and doing what I need to do for me.

759
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: Then you know, things, you know, kind of stay where

760
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: they're supposed to stay.

761
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: You know, there are so many treatments out there, and

762
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: I think for a little women it can be really

763
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 3: stressful just deciding where to spend your money on treatment,

764
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: Like it's so hard. I have people on our teams,

765
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: I have friends and family who are like, I've tried

766
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: so many different things. I've spent so much money on

767
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: therapies and like, I just don't know which one to pick,

768
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: and like what should I do for my body? So

769
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: I guess you know, obviously this is a personal thing.

770
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: I know that like what works for one doesn't work

771
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 3: for another person. But through your experience of treating people

772
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: and also your experience of having PEA class, what are

773
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: some of the holistic treatments that you have seen to

774
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: be most effective?

775
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: And I don't know whether you have an answer for that,

776
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: but I do.

777
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: That's sort of like a qualified answer. Like in the book,

778
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: we have a sort of a hormone symptom checklist that

779
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: helps you identify your hormone type. Okay, a lot of

780
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: sort of the batting around that everybody's doing and the

781
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: overbuying and the grabbing and stuff like that is because

782
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: they're not nailing themselves down to like this is me right.

783
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: And I think when you don't have a clear understanding

784
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: of what you're treating and you're just kind of grabbing stuff,

785
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: that's when that happens. That's when sort of that that's

786
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: a really good point buying fatigue happens and sort of

787
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: like I'm doing too much stuff, Like the new doctor's

788
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: coming into our teams and clinics, like I keep trying

789
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: to train them, like we want to simplify. We don't

790
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: want to keep adding and adding and adding. We want

791
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: to simplify because if you're thinking about the root and

792
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: trying to get to the main idea, then you shouldn't

793
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: have to take a million different things. Now, going back

794
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: to your original question though, like if you have PCOS

795
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: and you can identify the dominant patterns, so some of

796
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: us are androgen dominant. It's the androgens, the DHT, the dhaas,

797
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: the free testosterone, the total testosterone. Those are the hormones

798
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: causing the most problem. Well, then the biggest bang you're

799
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: going to get for your buck is treating those hormones. Right,

800
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: So that might be sal palmetto for blocking androgens. That

801
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: might be coline for cleaning up the liver a little

802
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: bit to help with the androgen component of it. That

803
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: may be a medication of very lotus medication likes pronal

804
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: lactone to help you block the androgens. But that androgenic

805
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: profile is where you want to park and the road

806
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: you want to go down. Versus somebody else that might

807
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: have a thyroid story with PCOS, that's a different plan.

808
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Versus somebody that might have an estrogen dominant story with PCOS,

809
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: that's a different plan.

810
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: It's like taking a supplement for vimin c when you've

811
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: got so yeah.

812
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great analogy. So I mean, I think

813
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: it's like goes back to you know, understand yourself and

814
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: take the time and energy to learn yourself. And whether

815
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: it's my book or a different one, like find your

816
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: hormone type, test your hormones, then you're kind of locked

817
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: into I know me, and then you know this product

818
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: over here is going to work for you know, PCOS

819
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: doesn't target androgens. If it doesn't target androgens, it's not

820
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: going to work for you. Okay, you know that's really useful.

821
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, that makes so much sense, you know, and

822
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: you talk about puberty in the in the book, and

823
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: you talk a lot to parents and how they can

824
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 3: educate their children, so well, like three things that parents

825
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: can do to help teens with their hormands.

826
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, those teens. You've got a couple at home, so yeah,

827
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: and I call them the rock stars in the book

828
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: because they're just all that you do. You never one's

829
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: raging at me right now actually because like I told

830
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: her she didn't study enough for a quiz, and her

831
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: father told her, like, good job, young lady. You're doing

832
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: really great. I'm so proud you're working. So I should

833
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: stop picking up my call anyway, So you never know

834
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: where they are. They're either like on or off or

835
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: angry or sad or whatever.

836
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it stops, honestly, I'm like, I'm in

837
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: my thighs. I mean, I still have these random rages

838
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: at my mom and.

839
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: She'll have them back at me. So I'm like, I'm sorry.

840
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: I don't know whether it's a teen thing or whether

841
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: it's just a moment do a thing. No, but I

842
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: also just know that it's filled with so much love.

843
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: I hope so I was hoping it's a teen thing.

844
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: But anyhow, I call them the rock stars in the

845
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: book because their hormones are honestly all over the place

846
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: right and they need a lot of help with stability,

847
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: both emotionally and physically as well. And even from a

848
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: hormone standpoint, one of the things we can do for

849
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: our teens stress the importance of sleep. I think if

850
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: they can be on consistent sleep cycles, then a lot

851
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: of their hormone irregularity can start to stabilize out. But

852
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: the other challenge we're having with the teens of today

853
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: in particular, is because they're exposed to so many more

854
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: chemicals than in the past, that the more we can

855
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: teach them about how to lower that chemical load. So

856
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: the teen culture right now is a lot of celsius,

857
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: a lot of energy drinks, vaping, you know, vaping, a

858
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: lot of like fast food, like they're always gathering, you know,

859
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: at least in the South, Chick fil a willies. These

860
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: are establishments that they go to all the time. So

861
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: putting some boundaries around that stuff, you know, So, how

862
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: can we lower your toxic load? How can we get

863
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: you to sleep consistently? And then how do we lower

864
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: exposure to blue light because for teens, that's keeping this

865
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: cortisol activated, and that activation of cortisol is then crashing

866
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: their hormones. So those are some of the things we

867
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: can do. And then when we are testing our teens

868
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: and trying to get an idea of what's going on

869
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: with them, we will put them on hormones. But it

870
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: usually looks like taking magnesium at night, taking a B vitamin,

871
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: and sometimes that's enough. They don't need to do a

872
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: lot more to get hormonally balanced. Now, the tougher cases, yes,

873
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, we may need to do detox work, or

874
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: we may need to add some progesterone or things like that,

875
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: but that's where you can start with your teens for sure.

876
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you talk about hormone health in your book. What

877
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: is like the recipe or the perfect environment for hormone health?

878
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: I think it's it's sort of this like mentality of

879
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: super stress, you know, high stress, poor quality food, lack

880
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: of sleep, you know, even toxic relationships like putting yourself

881
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: in toxic situations. You know, I think all of that

882
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: sets you up for hormone help. Yeah, and you know,

883
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have stories. I have stories too, Like

884
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: I came from a slightly dysfunctional family, went straight into

885
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: being competitive about getting into medical school and went to

886
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: med school then did residency, so it was like year

887
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: in years stress, stress on stress. So that was a

888
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: recipe for hormone health. I shouldn't have been surprised. I

889
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: thought diet coke and popcorn was healthy. Yeah, because it

890
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: was low calorie, right, It's like yay me, But it wasn't.

891
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: That was a recipe for hormone health. So I think

892
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: when you're you know, poor nutrition, poor sleep, poor relationships,

893
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: lack of self care, you know, environments that are not healthy,

894
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: your hormones will catch up at some point.

895
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: I was reading somewhere where our stress, our stress and

896
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 3: our body from back in the day when people we

897
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: were like running from animals or running from a lion,

898
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: we know no different. Our fight or flight response is

899
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: the same whether you're in a boardroom and you're stressing

900
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 3: out or if you're running from a lion. And so

901
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: the response that our body has is then on that

902
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 3: level constantly, So instead of it being once in a

903
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: while where we're running from a lion chasing us back

904
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: in the day, to now that being our constant reaction exactly,

905
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: and so that stress on a regular basis, like ah, hair,

906
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: our skin, our nails, every single external part of our body,

907
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: that's like the last part of our body to get nourished.

908
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: And so if we're not nourishing our bodies so deeply

909
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: to all the different layers of our tissues, of course

910
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: our hair is going to be screaming at us saying, hey,

911
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 3: I'm telling you something's wrong. Like every single external symptom

912
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: that happens is a sign that your body's screaming at

913
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: you that something is wrong internally, we just haven't been listening.

914
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 3: And so I think, you know, stress for a hustling

915
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: woman like I was just going onto is really a

916
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: major part of why there's so much dysfunction when we

917
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: get older and older in our hormones as women. And

918
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: so you have a checklist for good hormone health in

919
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: the book, do you have any in mind that you

920
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: want to highlight for anyone that's listening or from that

921
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: checklist or what is a checklist that one should be

922
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: going through on a weekly, monthly basis as a woman

923
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 3: who's got high stress levels.

924
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: Definitely, I mean, I think one of the things I

925
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: always say is to have some sort of ritual on

926
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: a daily basis, right, So that could be ten minutes

927
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: in the morning, ten minutes at night, twenty minutes however

928
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: you want to do it where it's just an opportunity

929
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: for you to bring your cortisol levels down on your own.

930
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: And that could be meditation, it could be journaling, it

931
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: could be going outside and just taking in the sun.

932
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: It could be in yoga, but some sort of daily

933
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: ritual to really help your body learn to tone it down, right.

934
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: So I think it's something we have to teach the

935
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: body because, as to your point, we're just in this

936
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: hyper cortisol state all the time. I think the other

937
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: piece that I always tell women is two to three

938
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: hours of self care every week. So that's more of

939
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: like the appointment based stuff like so you make an

940
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: acupunctual appointment, you make a massage appointment, a counseling appointment,

941
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: whatever it is that's relevant to what's going on in

942
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: your life, and those appointments that protected time is a

943
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: way for you to dial down sort of the stress.

944
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: I think we are underestimating the impact of blue light

945
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: and our phones upon our hormone health. So I think

946
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: sleep is really critical, right, So turn those phones off,

947
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: move them at least six feat away from your head.

948
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: That way, the blue light's not penetrating right here in

949
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: the pineal gland, which is part of that thin mentality

950
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: that is telling the hypoth almus what to do. So

951
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: I think turning that blue light off and keeping it

952
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: far away from you is something else you can do

953
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: to kind of stay out of hormone hell and to

954
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: kind of keep a healthy level of hormones. And then

955
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: I think your food, right, the more nourishing, high antioxidant foods, foods,

956
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: high end B vitamins and magnesium, you know, food's high

957
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: and healthy fats like you're Omega three fats and you're

958
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: Omega nine fats. These are all things that at the

959
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: end of the day, are going to balance and nourish

960
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: your hormones, you know, rather than having your hormones work

961
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: against you. Yeah.

962
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: I love when you were saying that. All I could

963
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 3: think of was just because it's your norm doesn't mean

964
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: it's good for you. And I think we get in

965
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: this habit of like thinking that just because we've been

966
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 3: doing something for a long period of time, you end

967
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: up thinking that's your normality. And that means that's what's

968
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 3: good for you. And a lot of the time going

969
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 3: into something that is not normal feels more scary or

970
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: like more obscure to you than doing the thing that's

971
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 3: feeling bad for you, like the diet coke, for example,

972
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: Having a diet coke is probably a lot of people's

973
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: comfort zone.

974
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: It is like, this is what I'm gonna drink.

975
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 3: And so even if it's something as simple like because

976
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 3: our body just does not like change, as soon as

977
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: you think of switching up that one habit that brings

978
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: you comfort, your body starts to panic, even if it's

979
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: good for you. So you're like, oh, instead of having

980
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: the diet coke, I'm going to.

981
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: Have a green juice.

982
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 3: Let's just say that, actually, I'm gonna have a green juice.

983
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 3: But the idea of the green juice is so uncomfortable

984
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: because your comfort is diet coke.

985
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: But your brain will trick you.

986
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, your brain will trick you into saying that, actually, no,

987
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 3: the diet coke will make you happy and it is

988
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 3: good for you. And I think this that you have

989
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: to start distinguishing the difference between what makes you happy

990
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: in the moment and what is good for you in

991
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: the long term.

992
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 2: And I think that's something that so hard.

993
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: It's so hard, it's so hard, it's really hard. But

994
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: that the only way, so think about that moment when

995
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: you're making that decision, the only way for you to

996
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: make that decision easily without again a lot of shame

997
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: and guilt, is if your nervous system has calmed down.

998
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: That's the only way you're able to navigate that decision.

999
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: So that's why sleep is so important. That's why self

1000
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: care is so important. Not because those are wellness tools

1001
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: that you need to use, or its trendy or things

1002
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: like that. It's because it literally drives your decision making

1003
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: and the moment to moment little decisions you make become

1004
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: cumulative and additive, right, and they ultimately show up like

1005
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: a hormone balance or imbalance, or how you talk to

1006
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: your spouse or partner or in so many other ways. Right,

1007
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: So it's not about coke versus juice. It's more about

1008
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: what decision are you going to make? Are you equipped

1009
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: to make these decisions as you move through your day?

1010
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: And many times, honestly, today, the way work is structured,

1011
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: the way schools are structured. You know, the roles that

1012
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: women have to kind of multitask and juggle through the answers. No,

1013
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, we are not equipped to make the decision

1014
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: between diet, coke, and juice because we're functioning at a

1015
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: level that's honestly a little bit unnatural. Unnatural words, unnatural,

1016
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, not normal for how we should be functioning

1017
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: through our day.

1018
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: That's so true.

1019
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: You know, when we talk about spiritual practices, you say

1020
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 3: that when you're in alignment, there's clarity. When you're in

1021
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: alignment and you're you're doing all the right things for

1022
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: your spiritual you feel like there is clarity. That's one

1023
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: of the signs of like being in alignment. This clip

1024
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: is clarity. And I think that's the same when you

1025
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 3: when I heard you say that, that's the same in

1026
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 3: our physical body, when we are in alignment, when we

1027
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: were doing all the right things that we need you

1028
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: to optimize our health, we have clarity, that clarity in

1029
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: our physical bodily systems, in our subtle energy channels. But

1030
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 3: then also clarity in those moments where you're not making

1031
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: decisions from a crash state where you're just craving energy

1032
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 3: and you just need to like suppress something or you

1033
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: need to get energy to do something. You're making a

1034
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: decision from a point of it, and you have the

1035
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 3: ability in that moment. And I've been in both states,

1036
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 3: But in that moment, you have the ability to think,

1037
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: am I going to regret this tomorrow morning? Yeah, simple

1038
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: as that it is eating this at twelve o'clock when

1039
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: my blood sugar levels are going to spike and I'm

1040
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: not going to get good sleep and it's going to

1041
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: impact me being able to wake up in the morning

1042
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: and have a good workout, whatever it is. I have

1043
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 3: that ability to go through my checklist and have clarity

1044
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: in that moment. As soon as that clarity is in there,

1045
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't care. I just need this sugar

1046
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: right now, and I'm going to stop over and whatever

1047
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: happens happens, and I won't care.

1048
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: And so I think clarity is such a good sign.

1049
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: Of alignment in all areas of our life.

1050
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: And what you said about the blue light and phones,

1051
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: you know, one thing I was thinking about was the

1052
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: fact that in every in the in between moments, this

1053
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: is how I'm trying to decompress at the moment, Like

1054
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: I have my meditation practice in the morning, but what

1055
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: I'm finding difficult is the moments in between going from

1056
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: thing to thing to thing to thing.

1057
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: Yea.

1058
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: And what I've noticed myself doing, and I'm sure other

1059
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 3: people can relate, is instead of having those moments in

1060
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: between to myself, even if it is a five minute

1061
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: in the car, even if it is this may be

1062
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: like too much, even if it is sitting on the toilet,

1063
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 3: even if it is having the one minute in between

1064
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 3: shifting gears from being creative to going into a meeting.

1065
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: Am I choosing to scroll on my phone and distract

1066
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: and further increase my anxiety? Or am I just going

1067
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 3: to sit and take a breath in the in between?

1068
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: Such a good that one shift is. It's something that

1069
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: I'm noticing. And the thing is, when you're in that

1070
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 3: high anxiety, say, you are looking to be stimulated constantly,

1071
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: and so I think it has to be like I

1072
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 3: pick up why am I doing this?

1073
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: And I literally just throw it to.

1074
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: The other side and I'm like, I just need a

1075
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: breath right now, Like that's actually all I need to

1076
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: take me from this to this. And so the in

1077
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 3: betweens don't fill them. If you're sitting on the toilet,

1078
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: don't scroll on your phone, have a moment where you

1079
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: are just like being and breathing and think listening to

1080
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: what's going on in your head. If you are traveling

1081
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: somewhere and you've just gone from a met and you're

1082
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: going to another one, try and have silence and just

1083
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 3: you will notice your breath pattern change. You'll notice your

1084
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 3: whole body just shift into a different, different energy zone.

1085
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 3: And so I think, like, you don't even.

1086
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: Have to make drastic changes.

1087
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: It's the what are you doing in your in between

1088
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: moments that can make such a difference to your anxiety

1089
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: throughout the day, because at least you're trying to get

1090
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: it back down rather than building and building.

1091
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: It's so hard. I think people fall into this like

1092
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: productivity trap. I mean, I'm so guilty. I'm so guilty.

1093
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play on enough. You're going to do

1094
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: ten then, you know whatever. But it keeps you in

1095
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: the loop, you know. And I think a part of

1096
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: the goal with all of this. And I was thinking

1097
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: as you were speaking, almost out a visual like cortisol

1098
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: dysfunction and this sort of lack of self nurture and

1099
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: lack of self care is the beginning and hormone hell

1100
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: is kind of over here downstream, you know. So when

1101
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: we're having a conversation about all of this, you know,

1102
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: you can enter at any point. You can enter the

1103
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: chat anywhere, you can enter it in the hormone world.

1104
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: But your goal should be to come up here and

1105
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: balance cortisol where you can enter it in the cortisol world,

1106
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: trying to balance that so that ultimately these hormones are balanced.

1107
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: But it's all a continuum, and it's all like a living,

1108
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: breathing kind of organism where you know, if these guys

1109
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: aren't balanced, then our emotional health has impacted, our physical

1110
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: and mental health is impacted, our energetic health is impacted,

1111
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: and then that decision making turns into I was good,

1112
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: I was bad, I did great yesterday. I mean, like

1113
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: we're giving ourselves a's and b's all the time, you know,

1114
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 1: whereas it should just be a very easy walking through

1115
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: life's choices.

1116
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: I remember when I was doing my book tool and

1117
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: this was that. Oh my god, it was this year,

1118
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: wasn't it.

1119
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, at the beginning of this year, I was riving

1120
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 3: up for my bookshour, and then I went on my

1121
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: book tour and I came back and I was saying

1122
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 3: to one of one of the girls on my team,

1123
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm so high strung off this

1124
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: tool that i cannot sit so like I'm thinking about

1125
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 3: the next thing and the next thing and the next thing.

1126
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: And so what I realized was.

1127
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 3: Sometimes you may have to live at that for a

1128
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: short period of time, but just know you're down at

1129
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: this spectrum.

1130
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: But then I had to decompress and.

1131
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 3: I had to know that living at this level was

1132
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: I could feel what it was doing to me, and so, yes,

1133
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 3: you may have to you may have to be in

1134
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: that state for short periods of time, but know that

1135
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: that has to be a short period of time. You

1136
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 3: cannot live in that state.

1137
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: That's not sustainable.

1138
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: And so then what are your.

1139
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: Measures that you're going to take to bring you back

1140
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 3: down into the spectrum, because like you said, I do

1141
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 3: think it's ebbing and flowing, like you move a little

1142
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 3: bit this when you're.

1143
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: Like, oh, okay, I feel it.

1144
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: Let's figure out how I'm going to get back down here,

1145
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: and let's keep figuring out how we're going to keep,

1146
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: you know, flowing back downstream. But I really noticed that,

1147
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: and I was like, wow, I have a lot of

1148
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: decompression to do after being in this high state, because

1149
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 3: otherwise everything I was doing, I was like.

1150
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 2: I kept thinking there was an urgency to everything.

1151
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: I was like, I have to do this and I

1152
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 3: have to do and like my whole body was in

1153
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 3: that state of just whether it was going to a workout,

1154
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: which I actually love doing, to cooking a meal when

1155
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 3: there was actually no time limit to it, to speaking

1156
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: to my mom, I have to go and I have

1157
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: to go finish this, or I'm constantly I was constantly

1158
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 3: in that mode, and I didn't notice it until I

1159
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 3: took a second. I was like, why am I in

1160
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 3: stressed in everything that I'm doing my meditation? Might have

1161
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 3: to finish this quickly because I have to get to this.

1162
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how we got there, but that's how

1163
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: a lot I got there. Yeah, so a lot of

1164
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: us are. And then take that energy that you're talking

1165
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: about and now have a picture yourself in a family

1166
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: unit with a couple of kids and a spouse that

1167
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: is also dealing with that same and it's just it

1168
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: makes someone talk to me recently that recently about the

1169
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: vibration of a family, you know, and so all this cortisol,

1170
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: all these different members of a family. So everyone's like this.

1171
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: It is like rattling away and feeds off each other

1172
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: to a certain extent, you know. So I feel like,

1173
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: you know, if we're going to set the tone of

1174
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: a family and of a home to a certain extent,

1175
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: or even a work home however, whatever that family looks like,

1176
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost like we personally have a responsibility

1177
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: to dial it down. Otherwise our energy just sort of

1178
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: dissipates totally very negative ways and then impacts everyone.

1179
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1180
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: So this hormonal conversation is about hormones, but it's also

1181
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: about the fallout, you know, And I talk about that

1182
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: a lot, about this fallout, with how it impacts you know,

1183
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: your ability to mother, to parent, to work, to be

1184
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: a boss, to be a mentor, to be a friend,

1185
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, a partner, and so much more.

1186
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: It's so true even you know, you came into the

1187
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: door today and I was thinking when you sat down,

1188
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 3: even from the first words that you said.

1189
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: You had so much calm in the way that you

1190
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: were speaking it.

1191
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: And no, and what it reminded me of is your

1192
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 3: energetic shift of being calm, because I was like kind

1193
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 3: of frantically doing things and I sat down in this seat.

1194
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: In my natural state is to be quite fast in

1195
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: the way I was speaking, and I heard you speak,

1196
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: and your energy calmed my energy of like of being

1197
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 3: more mindful of how slowly I was speaking.

1198
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 2: And I was like just in that interaction we had that.

1199
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 3: So I can only imagine in a house with teenagers

1200
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 3: going through hormonal shifts, a mom going through high courtisol,

1201
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 3: a dad not knowing that he's even impacted by hormones,

1202
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: like what am I doing here? And it's like this

1203
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: cocktail of like constant friction and resistance, and so yeah,

1204
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: that education for parents for children, it just the dynamic

1205
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 3: could be so.

1206
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: Different, It could be so different.

1207
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 4: I mean, you're thirty, you said, thirty three, sorry, very fay,

1208
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 4: So you're in that younger family state, right, which is

1209
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 4: happy and joy is for the most part.

1210
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: But then as the hormone start to shift in both partners,

1211
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: as you go into like the forties and the mid

1212
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: forties and stuff, that's where a lot of like relationships

1213
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: really take a hit in the way. And I think

1214
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: there's a chemistry cortisol to that. So like for everybody

1215
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: who's young and listening and if they're in relationships. Let's

1216
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: plan for this. Let's understand that each of you in

1217
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: a relationship have a responsibility to understand what's going on

1218
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: with you physically, emotionally, even energetically, because you're bringing that

1219
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: into the door and each person's impacting the other. So

1220
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: a lot of times there's these there are like these

1221
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: like struggles and friction which I'm like, you just need

1222
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: some progesterone or you just need you just need like

1223
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: to go get acupuncture because you're bringing cortisol into the

1224
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: relationship and then you can't see clearly.

1225
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 3: I would say that most of my friends with Jay's friends,

1226
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 3: he's little bit older than me, and in that age

1227
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 3: range is where they are struggling the most in their relationships.

1228
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: That's so interesting.

1229
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: You said, it's your hormones, it's.

1230
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: Not your relationship.

1231
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: Okay, you might be able to say that.

1232
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 3: I would love to touch on men's hormone health, yeah quickly,

1233
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 3: because like we said, I feel like it's not spoken

1234
00:57:59,000 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 3: about much.

1235
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: How do you know for us?

1236
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 3: We know for women, we know that it's on a

1237
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: monthly basis a homeone of shifting. What do men need

1238
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 3: to be aware of or what do they need to

1239
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: do to have their hormones in check.

1240
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: So I would have told you that this impacts men

1241
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: roughly around forty Some of this existing science and research

1242
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: says it's very clear it's like forty forty four, and

1243
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: then the next big drop off for men is sixty. However,

1244
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to qualify all of that because what we're

1245
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: actually seeing in the exam room versus what's just in

1246
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: the literature is that men are having issues earlier and earlier.

1247
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: We're seeing very low testosterone levels and sperm counts, and

1248
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: young men in their twenties we're seeing them have a

1249
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: lot of issues with fertility. So there's a lot of

1250
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: infertility in men. And so again, this like cocktail of

1251
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: hormones and environment and stress and whatever we're going to

1252
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: blame it on is hitting the men too. So it's

1253
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: hitting the window that we don't talk.

1254
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 3: The last time I'm hearing, I always get men just

1255
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: fertile till they're so old and they've got no issue,

1256
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: Like you know, That's what I mean, is that's the

1257
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 3: general it's always the woman who is like having to

1258
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 3: be mindful about her fertility, having to be mindful about

1259
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 3: her home.

1260
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: Like It's never really that way around.

1261
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: Well, we historically we have been the drivers of fertility,

1262
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: and we are the most vocal because we have the cycle,

1263
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: and the cycle goes away and comes away, and then

1264
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: we have again what I call the vanity symptoms of

1265
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: like hair, skin, and weight that we're very conscious of.

1266
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: Right But what's happening to men is that that sort

1267
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,479
Speaker 1: of ball of wax didn't really hit them historically until

1268
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: about forty. Right around forty, you see men struggling with mood,

1269
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: with energy, with weight gain, you know, with a lot

1270
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: of these symptoms that they can't put their finger on,

1271
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of them were self medicating, so they

1272
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: either are drinking more or they're you know, trying to

1273
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: find some other behavior to compensate, you know, because they're

1274
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: not able to handle what they could handle before. So

1275
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: they're having the same issue. When their hormones decline, their

1276
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: cortisol levels go up too, so their bandwidth change. So

1277
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: what they could handle before they can't handle anymore. They're

1278
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 1: having an issue with dopamine and feeling pleasure and feeling joy,

1279
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: so then they may develop unhealthy habits to go find

1280
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: pleasure and to go find joy. Right now, what we're

1281
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: finding more recently I would say this is being you know,

1282
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: uncovered literally in the last few years, is that these

1283
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: declining testosterone levels and declining sperm counts in younger men

1284
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: are leading to a lot of that symptomology now in

1285
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: your twenties and thirties versus waiting till you're you know,

1286
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: till your forties or so. So for men, the problem

1287
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: here's the problem for men. And the challenge to men

1288
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: is that, you know, I've always joked my next book

1289
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: needs to be a mental health bud, right, But like,

1290
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: they don't have a cycle to educate them on how

1291
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: they're doing, so they very much need a mirror to

1292
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: tell them how they're doing. And that mirror is usually

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Speaker 1: another practitioner or medical person, or it is their partner.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at the state of men's health today,

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Speaker 1: most of it's driven by the way women in their lives.

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Speaker 1: That's really how it works. You know, we make the appointments,

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Speaker 1: we make sure they get to the doctor. I used

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Speaker 1: to I used to be super resentful of all of

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Speaker 1: that because my husband is a very intelligent, smart, amazing man.

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Speaker 1: But like I have to make the appointments, I have

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Speaker 1: to fall upon the labs. I have to do all

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Speaker 1: of that, so a lot of it's being driven by us.

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Speaker 1: So what men need help understanding is that they also

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Speaker 1: need to go to the doctor every year and they

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Speaker 1: need to get all these different levels checked because it's

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01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: not the same game as it was for their dad

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01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: or for you know, their grandfather or things like that.

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Speaker 1: They need to know where their testosterone levels are, where

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Speaker 1: their inflammation markers are, you know, where their key nutrient

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Speaker 1: levels are, and they kind of need to do an

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Speaker 1: assessment of their mood and their cognitive health because we're

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of that go downhill on men very quickly.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this seeds to start in their twenties,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I meet men every day in practice.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been to a doctor in ten years. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I haven't been to a doctor in five years, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that is a long length of time for the

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Speaker 1: bottom de fil all out, you know. So I'm super

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Speaker 1: passionate about men understanding themselves and understanding some key things

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Speaker 1: that mood shifts like getting angry or getting impatient or

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Speaker 1: all those type of things. Are Feeling sad or feeling

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01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: depressed is a sign that you need some support and

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Speaker 1: some help and need to get things checked out. Weight

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Speaker 1: shifts are a sign, right, fatigue is a sign, you know,

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Speaker 1: A lack of bandwidth is a sign. But I think

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Speaker 1: both from a cultural standpoint and a medical standpoint, mat

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Speaker 1: are expected to like button up and you'll be fine

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Speaker 1: and making a big deal out of everything until you

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Speaker 1: get to those later stages where you actually get a diagnosis,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I think the goal for everybody is

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Speaker 1: to not have a diagnosis and instead to like be

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Speaker 1: very proactive about what they're bringing into the equations.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so sure you give a thirty day

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Speaker 3: home when we say yea, but yeah, share a little

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Speaker 3: bit around that, and how strenuous is this thirty day

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Speaker 3: we set.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's strenuous. That I got the biggest

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Speaker 1: compliment from somebody yesterday actually who she's in this group

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Speaker 1: that I coach, and she did the thirty day hormone

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Speaker 1: reset and all her hormone numbers normalize, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, that makes me so happy. But her

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Speaker 1: point was I did it, and it works. However, when

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Speaker 1: I fell off badly, then things after six months or

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Speaker 1: so started to slide again. So the thirty day hormone

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Speaker 1: reset is taking sort of this holistic approach to your

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Speaker 1: hormone health. And it starts out in the first few

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Speaker 1: weeks by really improving on gut health and really focusing

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Speaker 1: there for a second, and then really improving on liver

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Speaker 1: health and getting the gut and liver to work the

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Speaker 1: way they should. A lot of people have benefits right there.

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Speaker 1: Then it moves on into that personalization component, and I

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Speaker 1: tried to do the best I could with personalizing without

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Speaker 1: having lab work, right, so where I walk you through

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Speaker 1: sort of a questionnaire where you can identify your hormone pattern,

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Speaker 1: and then by no showing your hormone pattern, we can

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Speaker 1: modify your diet to treat that particular pattern, and then

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Speaker 1: we can bring in some natural remedies, whether it's herbs

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Speaker 1: or micronutrients or things like that. And then the last

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Speaker 1: leg of this is really getting more into the mind

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Speaker 1: body component of it and helping with the cortisol aspect

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Speaker 1: of all of it. So I feel like it's very doable.

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Speaker 1: It is, and you don't again we're such an all

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Speaker 1: or nothing culture. You could do the thirty days, but

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Speaker 1: you could also do the first week and stop there

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Speaker 1: for a second, or do the first two weeks, you know,

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Speaker 1: but cut it up however you want. But it's an

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Speaker 1: opportunity for you to dive into all the facets and

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Speaker 1: all the different elements playing into hormone.

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Speaker 3: Help. Yeah, I mean, I feel like the gut is

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Speaker 3: really where everything just we don't realize. We don't realize

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Speaker 3: how much the gut impacts. Even when I was doing

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Speaker 3: my head last episode, I was like, everything is so

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Speaker 3: link to the gut, Like you need to have a

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Speaker 3: good digestion to absorb those nutrients to be able to

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Speaker 3: narish your tissues. Otherwise, how can we expect our bodies

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Speaker 3: to be functioning totally? I think a lot of the

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Speaker 3: things that we're eating and what you were saying about

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Speaker 3: the toxic load, it's like, if we have toxins in

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Speaker 3: our body, they're blocking up our channels of excretion. We're

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Speaker 3: then even trying to eat good nutrients, but at that

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Speaker 3: point our gut isn't in a state to absorb them.

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Speaker 2: Actually doing all the good things.

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Speaker 3: We kind of have to trace backwards first get rid

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Speaker 3: of the things that we've done, and then try and

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Speaker 3: input the good things. Because I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: the times that can be quite difficult where you are

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Speaker 3: doing all the things that are good, all the things

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Speaker 3: that are good, but your gut may not be ready

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Speaker 3: for the green juice.

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Speaker 2: Your gut may not be ready for all the raw broccoli.

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Speaker 3: Or the fibers exactly because you haven't your microbio may

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Speaker 3: not be ready for that. And so I think I

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Speaker 3: love that you take it in those steps where it's like,

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Speaker 3: let's heal first, and then let's add in the herbs

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Speaker 3: and all the good things. Afterwards, let's get you to

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Speaker 3: a point zero, and then let's add in the good things.

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Speaker 1: Chinese medicine ierbatea medicine that is ground zero. Y sure.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, this was honestly such a juicy topic.

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Speaker 3: I love this conversation, Thank you so much. And honestly,

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Speaker 3: Hormone Shift is such a brilliant book. I really recommend

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Speaker 3: it to anybody listening, just to understand your body better,

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01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 3: to help you to heal, whether it's your gut, whether

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Speaker 3: it's your liver, whether it's your moods. I feel like

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Speaker 3: it can help in every single way. So definitely go

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Speaker 3: out and grab the book and doctor Tas, thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for you.

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Speaker 1: It's been an honor. Thank you so much,