Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. Good Morning.
Speaker 1: This is Laura, Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's
Speaker 1: episode is going to be a longer one part of
Speaker 1: the series where I interview fascinating people about how they
Speaker 1: take their days from great to awesome and any advice
Speaker 1: they have for the rest of us. So today I
Speaker 1: am excited to welcome Jenny Mars to Before Breakfast. Jenny
Speaker 1: is the co host of the show Fixed to Fabulous.
Speaker 1: She is also the author of the brand new book
Speaker 1: Trust God, Love People. Jenny, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, excited to have you here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So why don't you tell our listeners a little bit
Speaker 1: about yourself?
Speaker 2: Okay, I live in Bentonville, Arkansas, originally from Florida, but
Speaker 2: I've been here for twenty years, so this is home.
Speaker 2: I have five kids, ranging in age from fifteen to six.
Speaker 2: I think you have five kids too, don't I do?
Speaker 2: Eighteen to five? So we're sort of, you know, overlapping
Speaker 2: a big shop. Yes, you have the same, the little
Speaker 2: one that's like keeping us young. Yes, I love that, okay.
Speaker 2: And we live on a farm. We have animals, we
Speaker 2: have a nonprofit blueberry farm where families come and pick
Speaker 2: blueberries in the summer and we donate the proceeds from
Speaker 2: that blueberry farm. And we have a trade school for
Speaker 2: orphaned and vulnerable teens in Zimbabwe. One of our daughters
Speaker 2: is I was originally born in the Congo. She was
Speaker 2: adopted and we through the you know, God connections, we
Speaker 2: were working in the Congo, and then we had friends
Speaker 2: in Zimbabwe and so this whole it's a long story,
Speaker 2: but we're now working in Zimbabwe and the Congo actually
Speaker 2: as well. Let's see, I have my husband and I
Speaker 2: have been building and remodeling homes here in our area
Speaker 2: and well, he started in two thousand and four. I
Speaker 2: joined him full time in two thousand and eleven, twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: and we had HDTV approach es in twenty and sixteen,
Speaker 2: I think, and so we've been We reluctantly said yes.
Speaker 2: We didn't really know about doing a show. We're like,
Speaker 2: that's kind of crazy, we don't know if we want
Speaker 2: to do that, but we felt like it was something
Speaker 2: that God was asking us to do and he would
Speaker 2: use in some way. We didn't really know why or how,
Speaker 2: but we just trusted that he would, and now here
Speaker 2: we are. We're now currently filming season seven. Our show
Speaker 2: is called Fixer to Fabulous and we renovate homes in
Speaker 2: our town. And yeah, it's been a wild journey and
Speaker 2: we just are, you know, plugging along. We just do
Speaker 2: life like everybody else. It's mass chaos right now, summer
Speaker 2: break and it's complete chaos in our house, and we
Speaker 2: sometimes have cameras following us around, but otherwise we're just
Speaker 2: normally going to work and doing life.
Speaker 1: Writing HGTV host wasn't on your list of things you
Speaker 1: wanted to be when you were growing.
Speaker 2: Up, No, not at all. I did actually want to always.
Speaker 2: I always wanted to be a writer and an author,
Speaker 2: and so I've always been and I've always been very creative.
Speaker 2: I was in advertising, and that was my original path
Speaker 2: that I thought advertising, public relations and along there because
Speaker 2: I liked writing, have always loved photography, and design just
Speaker 2: sort of happened because my husband, I didn't study it.
Speaker 2: My husband was a builder. He grew up his dad
Speaker 2: was a builder, and he went into corporate America because
Speaker 2: he didn't want to do what his dad did. And
Speaker 2: then that's actually when we met out right after college
Speaker 2: and then he decided, no, I really don't like corporate America.
Speaker 2: I need to be doing something with my hands and build,
Speaker 2: and so we moved here. He started building homes and
Speaker 2: I just helped him because he can build really, really
Speaker 2: well and build pretty much anything. He's incredible. He's incredible craftsman.
Speaker 2: But he doesn't really care about things like paint, colors
Speaker 2: and countertops and you know, the pretty details that I
Speaker 2: really care about, So I would just help them. On
Speaker 2: the side. I had the full time job and then
Speaker 2: eventually quit my job, and we did build the business together.
Speaker 2: But no, never had that. I never even thought this
Speaker 2: would be my job, much less have cameras following us either.
Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely not on my radar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll talk about the cameras in a minute,
Speaker 1: for sure. But your new book I actually want to
Speaker 1: talk with you about is trust, God, love people. A
Speaker 1: lot of it is about waiting for various things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this is obviously a show about time. Is a
Speaker 1: time management show, and waiting is one of those awkward
Speaker 1: topics in the field of time management, and particularly your
Speaker 1: book is about, you know, waiting for things with uncertain timelines,
Speaker 1: particularly about like growing your family.
Speaker 2: Can you a little bit about that. Yes, I know,
Speaker 2: it's it's it was fun to write about now, you know,
Speaker 2: with it in the rear view mirror, but it's not
Speaker 2: fun when you're living in that season of uncertainty at all. Yeah. So,
Speaker 2: I mean went through a lot of uncertainty first trying
Speaker 2: to have a family, trying to you know, start our family.
Speaker 2: Then I had our twins, which that's a whole long story,
Speaker 2: but then we started our adoption process and that was
Speaker 2: another very tumultuous time. Basically what happened was we started
Speaker 2: the process before I got pregnant with the twins, got
Speaker 2: pregnant with the twins, restarted our process, and then we
Speaker 2: had this little girl come to I mean, we just
Speaker 2: got I got an email from a waiting child website
Speaker 2: that I had been I'd been receiving these emails for
Speaker 2: years at this point. And it wasn't that I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know every wild oh that's my you know, that's
Speaker 2: my child. But this one was we knew when we
Speaker 2: saw her face, it was we knew something was you know,
Speaker 2: we were stirred and thinking this could be our daughter.
Speaker 2: And so it was very we had to switch everything,
Speaker 2: We had to actually we were in the program for Ethiopia,
Speaker 2: and we found out she was in the Congo with
Speaker 2: a different agency, so we basically had to start over
Speaker 2: once we decided to pursue her adoption. But when we
Speaker 2: started that process again with her, we thought, okay, it'll
Speaker 2: probably take based on timelines and based on how long
Speaker 2: everything takes, because everything does take a long time and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of work things and all of that.
Speaker 2: We thought about nine months would be the full timeline
Speaker 2: we would have her home, and everything just kept getting
Speaker 2: delayed and getting delayed. But once we finally had her
Speaker 2: adoption finalized, we had her US visa, we were officially
Speaker 2: her adoptive pearance, and we visited her for the first
Speaker 2: time in person after that because we didn't want to
Speaker 2: meet her to meet us until we knew this was
Speaker 2: legal and we were because it was all very uncertain
Speaker 2: up until that point if it was even going to happen.
Speaker 2: And when we left there that was in August, and
Speaker 2: we thought we'd be back in about a month to
Speaker 2: come back and then bring her home, and right after
Speaker 2: we left, the country shut down adoption, letting adoptive kids
Speaker 2: leave the country. Still to this day, I don't really
Speaker 2: know all of the ins and outs. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of political stuff happening that we didn't know about or why.
Speaker 2: But it then took us another about year and a
Speaker 2: half to get our home, and so that I think
Speaker 2: was that period was probably the hardest because we had
Speaker 2: seen where she was living and in the condition she
Speaker 2: was living in, and she was sick a lot. She
Speaker 2: wasn't being fed very often, and we got her moved
Speaker 2: to a foster home. But it was still very hard
Speaker 2: because we never knew Sorry, I think that's my dog,
Speaker 2: Will you let Jack out? Sorry you heard a noise
Speaker 2: in the background. I'm so sorry. Okay, So we never knew,
Speaker 2: you know, if she was okay. Every day we would
Speaker 2: I would wake up in the morning and check. I'm like,
Speaker 2: did we get any news house Sylvie? And you know,
Speaker 2: she was in and out of the hospital a lot,
Speaker 2: and so just trying to just that weight was awful.
Speaker 2: My husband ended up flying back and forth several times.
Speaker 2: I ended I actually I was pregnant with our daughter,
Speaker 2: our youngest daughter, Charlotte. I had no you know, that
Speaker 2: was a total surprise. And so then I couldn't go
Speaker 2: back because I couldn't travel because I had a high
Speaker 2: risk pregnancy, and so Dave was going back and forth
Speaker 2: and we facetimed her all the time. But we got
Speaker 2: to a point where we really didn't know if she
Speaker 2: was going to be able to come home ever, and
Speaker 2: so we were starting to set up okay, continue plans.
Speaker 2: Can she live full time with her foster parents and
Speaker 2: we'll pay for her to go to school and all
Speaker 2: those things. So yeah, in that period, I mean we
Speaker 2: really just were It was very uncertain, and it was
Speaker 2: very hard because again we didn't have an end time
Speaker 2: and sight. It wasn't like we have this timeline and
Speaker 2: this is what's going to happen. It was literally day
Speaker 2: to day just praying and begging God and begging every
Speaker 2: person we could and that I mean anybody that would
Speaker 2: possibly have any connections that could help us. We were
Speaker 2: just constantly advocating and trying to get her home just
Speaker 2: because we wanted her to. I mean, we wanted her home.
Speaker 2: There was an ache in our family because we were
Speaker 2: waiting for her. But then also we didn't know if
Speaker 2: she was safe, or eating or any of those things.
Speaker 2: So it was that was probably Yeah, that was a
Speaker 2: very difficult time. But at the same time God taught
Speaker 2: us like I look back on that period and all
Speaker 2: the things that happened in our lives and what He
Speaker 2: was preparing us for and the way, you know, I
Speaker 2: talked about a blueberry farm, but the way He orchestrated
Speaker 2: relationships during that period so that we became very deeply
Speaker 2: connected with so many people. We have deep friendships and
Speaker 2: relationships with families in the Congo and in Zimbabwe and
Speaker 2: in South Africa because of that waiting period. So there
Speaker 2: was a lot of good that came out of it,
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't have known that at the time. I
Speaker 2: was just.
Speaker 1: Absolutely waiting for something that is uncertain, and you have
Speaker 1: to hold the end point in your mind that there
Speaker 1: will be something an outcome of this. We just have
Speaker 1: no idea of the tuneyline.
Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, We're going to take.
Speaker 1: A quick ad break and then I will be back
Speaker 1: with more from Jenny Mars. Well, I am back talking
Speaker 1: with Jenny mars who is the co host a Fixer
Speaker 1: to Fabulous on HDTV. It is also the author of
Speaker 1: the brand new book Trust God, Love People. I was
Speaker 1: practicing before and I kept mixing that up Love God,
Speaker 1: Trust People.
Speaker 2: I guess we can do both.
Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about though, you know,
Speaker 1: your work with with HGTV here, because I know a
Speaker 1: lot of listeners will be fascinated this, and I, Jenny,
Speaker 1: I can tell you I recently renovated a historic home
Speaker 1: that I'm living in now, and it was a sixteen
Speaker 1: month process. Yes, each meeting with the Historic Commission is
Speaker 1: longer than an episode of Fixer of Fabulous. So maybe
Speaker 1: you can talk a little bit about the difference between
Speaker 1: renovating for television and how renovating normally works.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, I will say there's on average, for each episode,
Speaker 2: we film about one hundred and twenty hours worth of
Speaker 2: footage and then they have to edit it down to
Speaker 2: a forty two minute episode. So there is a lot
Speaker 2: that happens that is not included. Because when you see
Speaker 2: the you know, there's always a section where it's like
Speaker 2: they're playing music and there's all we call you know,
Speaker 2: the b roll of the work happening like that is
Speaker 2: not happening in a day. That is happening over a
Speaker 2: lot of long period of time. Even still, I think,
Speaker 2: you know, when we're renovating a home, our own home
Speaker 2: or for clients outside of the show. Yes, it typically
Speaker 2: takes at least a year, and Historic Home is going
Speaker 2: to take longer even you know, two years is very
Speaker 2: reasonable for a big restoration project. But for the show,
Speaker 2: we have to film you know, sixteen twelve to sixteen
Speaker 2: episodes in we pretty much are filming year round. It
Speaker 2: takes us about a year to film the whole season.
Speaker 2: So there's twelve to sixteen houses depending on the season,
Speaker 2: usually sixteen that we're renovating in that period of time.
Speaker 2: So it's usually about ten to twelve weeks for a
Speaker 2: house renovation. So it's definitely different. It's very different. Everything
Speaker 2: has to and it took us a long time to
Speaker 2: really figure it out. Honestly. The first season, well the
Speaker 2: pilot episode was insane because we we renovated a historic
Speaker 2: home in I think it was five weeks and we
Speaker 2: just had the one and we were like, this is
Speaker 2: this is the hardest thing we've ever done. Like it's insane.
Speaker 2: And so when we started season one, we realized we've
Speaker 2: got to We've got to figure this out. How can
Speaker 2: we possibly do multiple houses? Like this is just crazy.
Speaker 2: So now that we're doing this sistar seventh year, we
Speaker 2: kind of have a better handle on it. But like
Speaker 2: right now, we're run. We have eight houses going right now,
Speaker 2: so and we're actually starting another one on Monday, so
Speaker 2: we'll have but we're revealing another one on Tuesday, so
Speaker 2: we'll go we'll start one close one, so we'll have
Speaker 2: eight again. And so it's just kind of this like
Speaker 2: rolling and so you have the house construction, but then
Speaker 2: you have the production schedule, and so you have to
Speaker 2: make sure when things are important things are happening, that
Speaker 2: we have cameras there or else it's a problem, right,
Speaker 2: Like wait, the cameras show back up and there was
Speaker 2: no staircase, and then there's a staircase, and we never
Speaker 2: showed the staircase being built. So we've learned. We've had
Speaker 2: to learn like you have to wait on certain things.
Speaker 2: And that was really hard for my husband as the contractor,
Speaker 2: because he's like, I'm hiring these guys, I'm paying for
Speaker 2: my guys to be here, I'm paying them by the hour,
Speaker 2: and I have to tell them to just wait because
Speaker 2: we need to film something, you know. So it was
Speaker 2: a process to figure out how we finish the house
Speaker 2: and actually how we make the show because the show
Speaker 2: is more telling a story, which I love. I love
Speaker 2: that part of it. It's the logistics that are really challenging.
Speaker 2: And even from my perspective, I'm ordering and choosing all
Speaker 2: them materials typically before we even start the house, before
Speaker 2: we even begin demo, so everything has to be there
Speaker 2: because we have to just it's it's so fast and
Speaker 2: once it starts, it's like a fast moving train down
Speaker 2: a mountain and you're just clinging on. So a lot
Speaker 2: of times, you know, things will show up and they're broken,
Speaker 2: or once we get into it, we change. You know,
Speaker 2: as you know, you renovated a historic home, things never
Speaker 2: go to plan, so you always have to pivot and
Speaker 2: problem solve. And you know, we had this plan, but
Speaker 2: then we got into it and this this everything changed
Speaker 2: and so now all of the lights, for example, that
Speaker 2: I ordered no longer work, you know, and you have
Speaker 2: to just pivot and find something that you can Like
Speaker 2: a lot of times we'll dig out things from our
Speaker 2: barn of like, oh wait, I have this light, we
Speaker 2: can use this. It's a lot of problem solving more so,
Speaker 2: not even problem solving, I would say, it's a lot
Speaker 2: of putting out fires more so than a traditional renovation
Speaker 2: where you have the time to process and choose as
Speaker 2: you go and make changes. And you know, it's from
Speaker 2: my perspective, it's just constant putting out fires and constantly
Speaker 2: just like okay, all right, well okay, that's not going
Speaker 2: to work. Let's do this, and you just have to
Speaker 2: sort of go with it. But from home owner perspective,
Speaker 2: they get to literally walk away from the house. So
Speaker 2: it works for certain personalities and for other people like
Speaker 2: for me, I couldn't do it, definitely, but it works
Speaker 2: great for people that don't want to have to make
Speaker 2: all those decisions. They want to say, here, you guys,
Speaker 2: figure it out, I'll be back in eight weeks. And
Speaker 2: that's truly what happens. They sign a contract that says
Speaker 2: they will not come back to the house, so it
Speaker 2: really is a surprise, and they come back and it's done,
Speaker 2: and they get a house renovated. Like you said, you know,
Speaker 2: typically you're waiting a year and a half two years
Speaker 2: for a house to be renovated. They get it done
Speaker 2: in two months, so it's amazing. Yeah, so there's a
Speaker 2: lot of benefits, but it's also they really do turn
Speaker 2: over control. I mean, we have a lot of meetings
Speaker 2: behind the scenes where I find out. Okay, what do
Speaker 2: you like? What do you do you like? You know,
Speaker 2: I get there's a lot of stuff that happens in
Speaker 2: the pre planning, so that because it is their house,
Speaker 2: we're not doing stuff that you know, we think is
Speaker 2: just cool for TV that they wouldn't really like, you know,
Speaker 2: so we have to make sure. But it is different
Speaker 2: because typically when you're working with a client, you're walking
Speaker 2: through the process together and you're choosing things together and
Speaker 2: you're making choices. We're this it's like I just I
Speaker 2: have to make all the choice. I get their information
Speaker 2: and then I just make the choices. Fascinating. Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 2: It's good. Yeah, but I know what lights you're going
Speaker 2: to wind up with.
Speaker 1: But there will be lights, so that's good. So I
Speaker 1: mean you've got this going on, you know, this this
Speaker 1: business that is all sorts of moving parts. You also
Speaker 1: have five kids, as we mentioned, How do you organize
Speaker 1: your schedule? I mean, do you have like a planning
Speaker 1: time where you sit down and do it? I mean,
Speaker 1: what's how does that work?
Speaker 2: Oh? Gosh, it's cal I would say, Okay, are there's
Speaker 2: some order to it?
Speaker 1: Because at the time pods.
Speaker 2: I survived day to day, I always say, but I
Speaker 2: do sit down. So I sit down at the beginning
Speaker 2: of the month, and I'm very much like I like
Speaker 2: to write. I have my you know, my calendar on
Speaker 2: my phone, but I have I have it right here,
Speaker 2: I have it everywhere I go. My little is just
Speaker 2: the most simple thing. But I have my written calendar
Speaker 2: that I can see the whole month, and then I
Speaker 2: put details. I have another planner where I put the details,
Speaker 2: but I like to be able to see it. So
Speaker 2: I sit down at the beginning of the month and
Speaker 2: just sort of map out the month, and then backing
Speaker 2: up when we get our production schedule, which is typically
Speaker 2: in February for the year, I go through and mark
Speaker 2: production like filming days, because that's important for all the
Speaker 2: planning of all the other things. But then each Sunday,
Speaker 2: you know, especially during the school year, because the kid's
Speaker 2: schedule is a full time job managing that. So on Sunday,
Speaker 2: excuse me, I sit down and map out, Okay, here's
Speaker 2: where everyone has to be and just what the week
Speaker 2: looks like in more detail. But there is definitely day
Speaker 2: to day planning, monthly planning, yearly planning. But it's also
Speaker 2: feels like because of production. Sometimes things get like there's
Speaker 2: just a like my planner gets thrown into a fire
Speaker 2: pit and blown up. Sometimes like I had a great
Speaker 2: plan and now it's what is happening?
Speaker 1: So absolutely all right, Well we're going to take one
Speaker 1: more quick ad break and then I'll be back with
Speaker 1: more from Jenny Bars. So I am back talking with
Speaker 1: Jenny Bars, who's co host of the show Fixer to Fabulous.
Speaker 1: She's also the author of the brand new book Trust God,
Speaker 1: Love People. So I know every day must be different
Speaker 1: with your life, but I'm curious if you have any
Speaker 1: routines that you rely on, either to stay sane or
Speaker 1: to make you more productive.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when we're so we're filming, we usually do
Speaker 2: a week, so like we're filming this coming week, but
Speaker 2: last week we weren't. So on the non filming weeks
Speaker 2: they look very different than the filming weeks. Non filming
Speaker 2: weeks or the time that we actually get caught up
Speaker 2: on all the work and the things. When I wrote
Speaker 2: my book, so for example, when I was writing my book,
Speaker 2: I had writing days that I put into my calendar
Speaker 2: and communicated that with everyone that those are days that
Speaker 2: I'm not available at least for the first half of
Speaker 2: the day, I typically had like get the kids to school,
Speaker 2: and then I would hap until about noon was just
Speaker 2: dedicated writing time, and I turned my phone off. I
Speaker 2: just everyone knew you cannot get in touch with me
Speaker 2: unless it's an actual emergency, and that was I had
Speaker 2: to do that, or else I never would have been
Speaker 2: able to write this book. Ever, so certain things like that,
Speaker 2: or on Fridays are typically my day to do these
Speaker 2: kinds of things like podcasts and schedule calls. I have
Speaker 2: another Zoom call right after this, and then it's also
Speaker 2: my day to like try to catch up on emails
Speaker 2: because my job is weird in that I'm never at
Speaker 2: my desk or at my at my computer. So Fridays
Speaker 2: I always have is kind of like an office day
Speaker 2: catch up day. But again it looks different because we're
Speaker 2: finishing a house next week, so this afternoon I'm heading
Speaker 2: to the house to finish getting it ready, so I'm
Speaker 2: not just sitting at my computer all day. Even though
Speaker 2: I would love a day to just catch up, I
Speaker 2: never really have that. But during the week when we're filming, especially,
Speaker 2: it's just a lot of running around because we're checking
Speaker 2: in on projects, so I have my phone on me,
Speaker 2: but then there's always you know, those emails that come
Speaker 2: through that you're like, oh, I need to sit down
Speaker 2: and like actually respond to this. I can't just do
Speaker 2: a quick one off, and so my inbox is typically
Speaker 2: like overloaded, and then I try to catch up on
Speaker 2: frit so I don't know it's it's not it's not great.
Speaker 2: And I also am like, well, I guess if it's
Speaker 2: really important and I miss it, they'll ask me again.
Speaker 2: That's what I do.
Speaker 1: I'll get it the next Friday for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Jenny, I always ask my guests the question
Speaker 1: of what is something you have done recently to take
Speaker 1: a day from great to awesome?
Speaker 2: Oh ah, that's interesting, hmm. I mean I think for
Speaker 2: me anytime, no matter how crazy the day is, I
Speaker 2: always I think the one thing that keeps me sane.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this could help other working moms too,
Speaker 2: is that when I am home, And again, I work
Speaker 2: from home a lot, so sometimes I'm home but I'm
Speaker 2: not really available, like right now my kids have to go.
Speaker 2: I had this sitter come and get them because I'm like,
Speaker 2: I have to record this. So I'm home, but i'm
Speaker 2: not not working. But when I'm home and i'm not
Speaker 2: working and I really have even if it's the middle
Speaker 2: of the day and I do have an hour, I
Speaker 2: shut it down and I just tried to be present
Speaker 2: and I was. Just the other night, we got home
Speaker 2: from a really long day of getting this house ready.
Speaker 2: So when we're about to reveal a house, we have
Speaker 2: typically two to three days to get everything ready, which
Speaker 2: is if you think about moving into your home and
Speaker 2: imagine having everything done in three days, it's a lot.
Speaker 2: You've all the little details. So it was a long
Speaker 2: day and I got home and it was a good
Speaker 2: day though, because it's a fun, creative day. It's just hard.
Speaker 2: It's exhausting. But I got home and the kids were
Speaker 2: outside and I was like, let's go out in the pasture.
Speaker 2: And we have animals. We have sheep. We just got
Speaker 2: this new cow that is her name's Minnie, and she's
Speaker 2: so cute. She's not a miniature cow, but she just
Speaker 2: didn't grow. And so one of the cattle ranchers in
Speaker 2: the area had called my husband because he knew we'd
Speaker 2: just taken all the animals, and he's like, I can't
Speaker 2: afford this. I can't keep the her because he's actually
Speaker 2: that's his job as a cattle rancher, and he's like,
Speaker 2: she's too little. So now we have this little miniature cow,
Speaker 2: and she was really scared, and so it's become our
Speaker 2: goal to make her like us and to be friendly.
Speaker 2: And so the other day we went back out there
Speaker 2: and we had treats, my kids and I and Minnie.
Speaker 2: The cow walked up to us and ate from our
Speaker 2: hands and it was like you would have thought we
Speaker 2: had just like won the Olympics, because we were so
Speaker 2: excited and we're like, oh my gosh, and we're making progress,
Speaker 2: and it was just such a great, sweet, amazing moment
Speaker 2: and accomplishment because we've been working with her every day
Speaker 2: and I don't know, it was just like we were
Speaker 2: so excited and it's silly because it's a cow, but
Speaker 2: it felt like a huge win. And it really was
Speaker 2: fun to watch my kids see, you know, feel that
Speaker 2: sense of pride and accomplishment and also the way that
Speaker 2: they are so compassionate towards animals, and so yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know that really was a long winded answer, but yeah,
Speaker 2: spending time in the pastor with my kids just being
Speaker 2: really intentional. Even if it's just, you know, one hour
Speaker 2: together in the afternoon, it was really sweet. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm picturing this. Miniature cows not something I make sure
Speaker 1: my kids do not listen to this because we will
Speaker 1: not be getting miniature cows.
Speaker 2: But Tony, this has been great. Where can people find you? Okay?
Speaker 2: So I really am only good at Instagram. I don't
Speaker 2: I can't keep up with everything out So Jenny Mars
Speaker 2: is my Instagram and that's where I'm pretty active. And
Speaker 2: then Jenny Mars dot com is my website. So easy, awesome, wonderful.
Speaker 1: Well, Tenny, thank you so much for joining us. Thank
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