WEBVTT - 2 Florida University Students Vanish Without A Trace, Police Baffled

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<v Speaker 1>Folks.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Wednesday, April twenty second, and two college students

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida haven't been seen in six days. They have

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<v Speaker 2>essentially vanished off the face of the earth. And with that,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. This

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<v Speaker 2>story now is causing more concern and there's more alarm,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that's that's a fair way to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>These are doctoral students Robes, and once they went missing,

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<v Speaker 2>there ain't been a trace of them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so bizarre because there's no reasonable explanation, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet there is no evidence of foul play. But we

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<v Speaker 1>have two twenty seven year olds, so these are grown folks, adults,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are doctoral students. As you mentioned, Zamil Lemon

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<v Speaker 1>and Nahata Bristy. They're both twenty seven. They are friends

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<v Speaker 1>and there is some suggestion that they might be more

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<v Speaker 1>than friends. But they vanished without a trace, within one

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<v Speaker 1>hour of each other, different spots, right, different spots, And

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<v Speaker 1>this happened. The last time each was seen was April sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>so six days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, USF this is where they're in school. University of

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<v Speaker 2>South Florida, Tampa is where they are both in school.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctoral students both from Bangladesh. Right, this is weird that

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<v Speaker 2>we have to say this now, or even that police

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<v Speaker 2>had to say it. They're not with ICE. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>we are these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and even their family who have been deeply concerned

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<v Speaker 1>and have been talking to the press because of their concern.

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<v Speaker 1>That was their initial reaction. Can we make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't been detained by ICE? Ice has come out

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<v Speaker 1>and officially said they are not with us. Are They

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any issues with their immigration status, so it

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with us. And so because basically

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<v Speaker 1>all the obvious things have been ruled out, police are

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<v Speaker 1>now officially asking for the public's help because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where to go from here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we go with that. We know it's not Ice,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. Two people are missing or go missing from

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<v Speaker 2>two different places.

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<v Speaker 1>ROA.

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<v Speaker 2>If these aren't two individual abductions, we can possibly rule

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<v Speaker 2>that out, can we not? Nobody? There was no suggestion

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<v Speaker 2>of foul play or crime of any kind being committed,

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<v Speaker 2>is what the police?

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that the word correct?

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<v Speaker 1>But university officials have used the term very concerned. They

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<v Speaker 1>say we are very concerned for these two.

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<v Speaker 2>They say they're very concerned. They haven't told us necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>why they're concerned, But why is it as well that

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<v Speaker 2>they was important to note that they might be together.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the part when I hear it, Rob, I said, well, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they ran off together. But that didn't necessarily make sense

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<v Speaker 2>to the friends and family either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you had said, well, what if they were

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<v Speaker 1>forbidden from being together and they ran off? And I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but he hasn't been home in two years they've been studying.

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<v Speaker 3>It brought say they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Fall in love and want to get married, they could

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<v Speaker 1>probably go ahead and get married and their parents wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>find doubt about it, and they could still be going

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<v Speaker 1>to classes.

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<v Speaker 3>These two were both described as.

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<v Speaker 1>Dedicated students, and so this is highly unusual that they

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<v Speaker 1>would just in the middle of the year and actually

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end of the year, just skip out on

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<v Speaker 1>all of their student duties, all of their classes. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't fit either one of their personalities, And how would

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<v Speaker 1>that make sense if it was that they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be together.

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<v Speaker 2>The thesis is due, it's coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yah. As his brother said, he's been working tirelessly on

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<v Speaker 1>his thesis which is coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's go back then. All right, We've got

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<v Speaker 2>two doctoral students at the University of South Florida Robes,

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<v Speaker 2>both ones in engineering. Tell me what they're getting sores.

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<v Speaker 3>Emil Lemon, he's twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>He's pursuing his PhD in geography, Environmental science and Policy.

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<v Speaker 1>He was last seen at nine am at his basically

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<v Speaker 1>just off campus apartment, student apartments, basically right there on campus,

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<v Speaker 1>nine am, right there on campus. He's working on his

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<v Speaker 1>thesis and he was seen they know, at nine am

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday, April sixteenth. He had already booked his first

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<v Speaker 1>trip back in July summer to go back home to Bangladesh.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, here's somebody who had plans, who had

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<v Speaker 1>a future, who was in the middle of his thesis

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a doctoral student. He's been in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States for two years.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now tell me about when Nihita.

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<v Speaker 1>Nihita Nihaita Bristi is a doctoral student studying chemical engineering.

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<v Speaker 1>She was last seen as well on Thursday, April sixteenth

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<v Speaker 1>at ten am, and she was last seen at the

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<v Speaker 1>Natural and Environmental Sciences building right there on campus.

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<v Speaker 3>So she went to a class.

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<v Speaker 1>She was in the Natural and Environmental Sciences Building, seen

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<v Speaker 1>by multiple people. So verifiably she was there and in

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<v Speaker 1>class at ten am.

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<v Speaker 2>So given where he was at his apartment, given where

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<v Speaker 2>she was on campus.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about ten minutes apart, then.

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<v Speaker 2>Not far apart, and this was about an hour's difference

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<v Speaker 2>in the last time they were seen. Correct, all right, So, Robes,

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<v Speaker 2>where did I read that their phones were off?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Police have said so.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously here's what the latest is in the investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Their phones are both turned off.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Robes, that's a scary proposition, isn't it. Everybody, certainly

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<v Speaker 2>that age or a little older. Sure you are either

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<v Speaker 2>Robes in trouble meanings they're in trouble with somebody and

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<v Speaker 2>they fell into some criminal element and something came about them,

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<v Speaker 2>or you really don't want to be found.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's add to that, there is right now no

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<v Speaker 1>digital footprint, meaning they have credit cards there. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>basically exist in this world these days intentionally, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>just out in every you have enough cash.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how long that'll get you.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you go to stay at a hotel room,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go anywhere, you have to show your there's

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<v Speaker 1>a credit card. There's something that you can be traced to.

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<v Speaker 1>So if your phone's GPS is off because it's turned off,

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<v Speaker 1>then typically to survive to exist outside of living in

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<v Speaker 1>your apartment, which they're not at. Neither one of them

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<v Speaker 1>are at their residences. How are they surviving without using

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of credit card?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, so that suggests one of two things, which one

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<v Speaker 2>you tell me robe is more likely one that they

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<v Speaker 2>did in These are smart people. They did an incredible

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<v Speaker 2>amount of planning to make sure they wouldn't be tracked

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<v Speaker 2>or trace or two there is foul play here.

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<v Speaker 1>Foul play makes the most sense because why would you

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<v Speaker 1>also time it out in the middle of your at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of your spring semester. It just why would

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<v Speaker 1>you just leave everything just completely in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the process of things. When you talk about who these

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<v Speaker 1>two students were, their family and their friends talk about

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<v Speaker 1>them being it would be highly unusual for them to

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<v Speaker 1>miss a class, let alone just skip out on a semester.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in the middle of a thesis. They're both pursuing PhDs.

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<v Speaker 1>These are smart, intelligent folks who went through a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pain and hard work to get to the United

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<v Speaker 1>States to study at USF to pursue their PhDs.

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<v Speaker 3>This makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you the next part of that

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<v Speaker 2>scenario that makes no damn sense? Or if we do

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<v Speaker 2>want to go with foul play, how do two people

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<v Speaker 2>abduct it or finding foul play from two different places?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it she's over here at a class at

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<v Speaker 2>ten people see her? Nobody saw him after nine am

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<v Speaker 2>in a place ten minutes away? How do we what

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<v Speaker 2>scenario do you have there? Where? Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't, It doesn't. That's why this story right now

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<v Speaker 1>is so mysterious. Because I was telling you it reminded

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit of the nante guth Through case,

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<v Speaker 1>where there's no obvious motive.

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<v Speaker 3>Other than yes the most.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were just looking at this without knowing any

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<v Speaker 1>of the details, you thought, oh, these two kids' families

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want them to be together. They felt the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>of being the successes that their families wanted them to be.

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<v Speaker 1>They ditched everything and ran off into the wilderness together.

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<v Speaker 1>But to not have your phones, to not have any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of credit cards, that makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I am with you there, But also Robes, these

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<v Speaker 2>are two people who had a lot going for them

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<v Speaker 2>and who had been working in this country who had

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<v Speaker 2>been working at this school for years to get to

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<v Speaker 2>a certain place that they were about to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>At least it appears what could have come up in

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<v Speaker 2>their lives that made them want to voluntarily do this.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a high high bar, but Rose, I am

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<v Speaker 2>struggling to get over that hump of I guess they

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<v Speaker 2>could as possible they could have met up later and

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<v Speaker 2>something happened to both of them. It's possible they got

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<v Speaker 2>into a car together, maybe they had an accident. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I was curious if they can go back into

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<v Speaker 1>their phones data and see what was the last text

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<v Speaker 1>that was sent from each of their numbers. Did they

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<v Speaker 1>meet up? Were they lured somewhere together? Was there some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of love triangle going on with you've got another

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<v Speaker 1>another woman in the picture who was angry, or another

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the picture who was pissed.

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<v Speaker 2>We've watched too much.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what remind you because typically these if there was

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<v Speaker 1>a crime committed, it's typically one from the heart or

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<v Speaker 1>one from the wallet. So either there was some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of financial gain or some sort of personal vendetta, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the two things. If foul play was involved,

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<v Speaker 1>random act of violence. I guess that's possible, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>the least possible or probable of any of these scenarios

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<v Speaker 1>we just mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>Phones off.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are there that would suggest foul play to me

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<v Speaker 1>or like you said, an absolute deliberate planned escape from

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<v Speaker 1>the world to completely go off the grid.

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<v Speaker 3>But then give me a motivation for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, roobes, I don't know what the student visa situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Was, but you would think that ICE or the government

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<v Speaker 1>would have weighed in and said, hey, they were facing deportation,

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<v Speaker 1>there was something happening.

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<v Speaker 3>We can under there.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually has been that that has been looked into and

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<v Speaker 1>ruled out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have to apologize for this speculation, man, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'm gonna move ahead. My thought went to

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<v Speaker 2>is there a plan or knowing that don't don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a plan when that student visa expires? Like when that

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<v Speaker 2>student visa expired, do you get to do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a job? Is it harder to get a job, Is

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<v Speaker 2>it harder to get someone to sponsor you to stick

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<v Speaker 2>on and stay in this country? Are we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to leave this Country're gonna have to leave each other?

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<v Speaker 1>But now you've got to leave your identities, your families.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't have contact with anyone you once knew were

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<v Speaker 1>loved a man.

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<v Speaker 2>Love is a powerful thing, and the heart wants what

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<v Speaker 2>the heart wants. Robes, I really hope you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>much as this might be concerning to the campus and

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<v Speaker 2>concerning to their families, I really do hope the scenario

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<v Speaker 2>is that they've run off together.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that would be the best case scenario, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine that's exactly what their families would say. But

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of reaction from Nihita Bristi and Zamila Leimoon's family,

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<v Speaker 1>we have heard from them. We will tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>they had to say about their thoughts on what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on when we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we continue here on Amy and TJ. Where

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<v Speaker 2>are these kids? Are they victims of a crime or

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<v Speaker 2>are they love birds? We really do not know, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the University of South Florida students doctoral students twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>years old. Both have been missing for the past six days,

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<v Speaker 2>when missing from two places ten minutes apart. But we're

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<v Speaker 2>last seeing an hour apart. So Robes, they's the suggestion

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<v Speaker 2>is from the family that these two were They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>flat out say that they were dating, but they what

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<v Speaker 2>was it. They were looking at the possibility of a

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<v Speaker 2>marriage or something down the road, but they never seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to say that, yeah, these two were in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so Xamille Lemowne's brother actually spoke to news outlets,

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<v Speaker 1>that's who we've heard from from their family's point of view,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did put their relationship into better contexts because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else has just said they were friends and they

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<v Speaker 1>believe they're together. His own brother said, another important point

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<v Speaker 1>is that they talked about having a future together, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are not that serious about it. Both of them

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<v Speaker 1>are thinking about whether we can married together and they

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<v Speaker 1>are discussing that. So that to me actually made it

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<v Speaker 1>even less likely that they were running off together, because

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<v Speaker 1>if his brother knew that they were considering marriage, that

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<v Speaker 1>means that the families were aware of a potential romance

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<v Speaker 1>or a marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>And it obviously wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So terrible or awful that his brother felt like that

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<v Speaker 1>was a negative thing. He just said, yeah, they're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it in the future, but they're focused on school

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot imagine again a scenario keep saying Nancy's Guthrie.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't come up with a scenario that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't come up with one that makes sense on

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<v Speaker 2>either ropes. None of this the scenario of them being lovebirds,

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<v Speaker 2>a scenario of them being abducted, and none of it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. A car crash doesn't make sense, it does

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<v Speaker 2>nothing makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and look to go on further. So Leon Lemone's

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<v Speaker 1>brother described him, and we've been talking about this, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is a direct quote from him talking about his

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<v Speaker 1>brother's emial. He is a very responsible and punctual person.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why this situation is so unpredictable and unusual

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<v Speaker 1>to us like and very suspicious. So his family and

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<v Speaker 1>I can only imagine, of course, is concerned that there

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<v Speaker 1>is foul play involved. And look this coming the official

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<v Speaker 1>word from the University of South Florida, the PIO. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was interesting too. They said, everybody internally

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously very concerned, as we are concerned. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>typical of their behavior. They're graduate students. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>information that there is foul play or suspicious nature at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, but the point being is you've got two

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<v Speaker 1>young folks who it seems like everyone knew were in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship. Didn't seem like it was a controversial thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both stellar students here on student visas, getting their

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<v Speaker 1>PhDs in really intelligent, amazing scientific studies, and they seem

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<v Speaker 1>to have support from their families, or at least lemone did.

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<v Speaker 1>So how is it possible that they just vanished literally.

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<v Speaker 3>Into thin air? That's what I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what I'm hoping next happens is, look, where are

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<v Speaker 1>all the cameras on campus? If they saw her and

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<v Speaker 1>they know she was at a building at ten am,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully can they retrace her steps? Same with him if

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<v Speaker 1>he was seen in and apart, can they see how

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<v Speaker 1>he left the apartment and that it seems like digital

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<v Speaker 1>technology and hopefully these tips they're now asking for people

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<v Speaker 1>to call in with will be the answer to what

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise it is just an absolute mystery.

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<v Speaker 2>That part's concerning robes that they had. They felt like

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<v Speaker 2>they it almost sound like they didn't want to, but

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<v Speaker 2>they had to come out and say we need your help.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Rollup's given all that they track people down with

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<v Speaker 2>those digital license plate readers, right, those cameras, they can

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<v Speaker 2>track your every move on a college campus. You surely

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<v Speaker 2>should be able to track a kid's movements.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surpris why they haven't been able to release the

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<v Speaker 1>last scene footage because yes, when I read that, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any digital footprint of them using credit cards

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. Okay, the fact that their phones

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<v Speaker 1>are turned off very disturbing.

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<v Speaker 3>But where was the last place their phones were?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are ways for police to get and

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<v Speaker 1>to dig deeper on this from a technological standpoint, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Much cash would you have to have on you to

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<v Speaker 2>leave no digital footprint for six days?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and a lot of places aren't even like don't

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<v Speaker 1>even accept.

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<v Speaker 3>Cash these days. Like good point, it's it's not even

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<v Speaker 3>like guaranteed off.

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<v Speaker 2>How can you find anything or go anywhere these days

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<v Speaker 2>with your phone off? You just can't.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, no phone number, no email, no nothing like

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<v Speaker 1>this is Look, if if you're members of their family,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're deeply concerned about foul play right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But jeez, how do they both go missing from two

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<v Speaker 2>different places across camps? All right, well, folk, we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to hop on and give you updated here. This story

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<v Speaker 2>is starting to bubble quite a bit, So this is

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<v Speaker 2>one you are going to be hearing a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>more about. But say the names again to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Their names are twenty seven year old Zmili Moon and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven year old Nahita Bristie, missing from the University

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<v Speaker 1>of South Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll keep you updated, but you to be hearing a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more and seeing their names and faces a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more places. But folks would appreciate you as always spending

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<v Speaker 2>some time with us on T. J. Holmes on behalf

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<v Speaker 2>of my dear Amy Robot. We'll talk to you all soon.

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<v Speaker 1>H