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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. Mark Vandermaar and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you as we are getting oh so closer

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Speaker 1: to Texan's training camp, which begins two weeks from Thursday. Johnny,

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Speaker 1: how does that sound to you?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Man, that sounds really really good. I started doing this math.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where I was I was. I think

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Speaker 3: I was walking around h GB, and I was like, okay, Thursday,

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Speaker 3: So I just thinking about Thursday being the fourth.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, and I can do the easy math, fourth

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Speaker 2: the eighteenth. Like that's two weeks. Yeah, holy cat, that's

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Speaker 2: it right there, It's right, it's right here. They report

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Speaker 2: in front of us. They report two weeks from tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: You know they're gonna be around here next week, and

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Speaker 1: you know we'll be really getting hype because we'll be

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Speaker 1: out there on the field eight to ten am starting

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Speaker 1: Thursday the eighteenth, and also Sean and Seth they'll be

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Speaker 1: out there six to eight after us. It's in the loop.

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Speaker 1: So we'll have some fun out there training camp. We'll

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Speaker 1: have players, Nick Casserio, other guests. It's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 1: And then you have a game. We're less than a

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Speaker 1: month away from Texans football because the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: game is August first.

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Speaker 2: How about that? How about that?

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Speaker 3: That might be even more mind blowing than fact that's

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Speaker 3: sixteen days away from draining camp.

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Speaker 1: I know, we month, We're right there, We're right here

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Speaker 1: on the cusp of it. Now, later on in the show,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the Texans radio polygraph tests of

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Speaker 1: the day because people have been saying things when we

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Speaker 1: want to find out if they are telling the truth

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Speaker 1: or not. So we will get to that, indeed, But

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Speaker 1: I want to start here, Johnny. I've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of things to go over in this first segment, including

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Speaker 1: but now limited to Hard Knocks, premiering tonight.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a moment offseason hard Knocks.

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Speaker 1: But let's get to this MVP favorites, MVP faves. Who's

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Speaker 1: the fave to be the MVP? It's pretty obvious. Who

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Speaker 1: do you think it is?

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Speaker 3: It is probably Patrick Levaughn Mahomes, That is correct, patas

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Speaker 3: Trick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Patrick Mahomes. I don't think it's too surprising him.

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Speaker 3: He's coming off of Super Bowl championship second consecutive.

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Speaker 2: Can't knock him out. Even though the regular season last

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Speaker 2: year wasn't tremendous.

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Speaker 3: It's still Mahomes and I know people want to when

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Speaker 3: it comes to MVPs, people want to be sexy.

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Speaker 2: Oh I've got the new guy, Jordan Love. You know, CJ.

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Speaker 3: Strout will get mentioned a lot because he's kind of

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Speaker 3: a new guy. But I mean he last year Mahomes

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Speaker 3: threw for forty two hundred yards. Here's where I think

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Speaker 3: he fell off. And this is our hope. This is

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Speaker 3: our hope, all of us in the AFC. So I'm

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Speaker 3: taking all of us with us.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: It's like that movie poster of I think his movie

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Speaker 3: poster three, the movie three hundred remember that, Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I can't remember who it was, but the main character

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Speaker 3: is standing there and he's standing there.

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Speaker 2: Wait a second, wait, what's his name? Is that? Gerard Butler? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I was think of somebody else. Anyways, he's standing there

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Speaker 3: and he's just got his shield and he's it's the

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Speaker 3: else and they're all storming at him.

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Speaker 2: He's like, come on, let's go. That's kind of a

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Speaker 3: We are the group that's storming at him, and by

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Speaker 3: we we're the collective weed the AFC.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're all going at him. Here's our hope.

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Speaker 3: He threw the lowest number of touchdowns, second lowest number

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Speaker 3: of touchdowns he's thrown in his career since he's been

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Speaker 2: What was the number, twenty seven? That's low. Yeah, this

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Speaker 2: is the guy went for fitty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah through fifty in his first year as a starter,

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Speaker 3: he had forty one. In twenty twenty two, he dropped

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Speaker 3: fourteen touchdowns. Here's the other thing. He threw fourteen interceptions.

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Speaker 3: He was less than a two to one interception touchdown

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Speaker 2: You're saying that the armor has been dentist saying there's

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Speaker 2: a chance.

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Speaker 3: Now here's where it gets, I don't know, somewhat difficult

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Speaker 3: playoffs and he's a whole different quarterback. He's not throwing interceptions,

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Speaker 3: he's not making those bad plays. He is doing everything

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Speaker 2: He's now doing it in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: So that's the hope, is that he has more of

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Speaker 2: End up the sixth seed.

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Speaker 3: Somehow, maybe they end up the fourth seed, and now

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Speaker 3: they got to go on the road.

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Speaker 2: But then again, they did that last year.

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Speaker 3: Everybody thought, oh, they're gonna have to go on the road,

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Speaker 3: and they went to Buffalo and they went to Baltimore

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Speaker 3: and he won both.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, dang it.

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Speaker 3: But Mahomes is I would think the logical pick to

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Speaker 3: be the one with the best odds.

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Speaker 2: He's the favorite.

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Speaker 1: Texans will see the Chiefs at Arrowhead on December twenty first,

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Speaker 1: and then take on the Ravens on Christmas. All right,

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Speaker 1: so Mahomes is the favorite for the MVP. Two players

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Speaker 2: Who are they? I would imagine that Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 2: one of them. That is incorrect. That is incorrect, So oh,

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, that is incorrect. Really yeah, two of them

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Speaker 1: I will give them to you. Okay, one plays here.

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Speaker 1: His name is CJ and the other is Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 3: Okay, so one loses digs, one gains digs and they're

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Speaker 1: Really right now, the Texans island for second? Yeah, these

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Speaker 1: and I said, all right, this is going to be

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Speaker 1: an interesting year for the Bills because are they the

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Speaker 1: type of organization that can go through the roster churn

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Speaker 1: that you need to to keep the quarterbacks window open

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Speaker 1: eternally as long as that quarterback is with you, like

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Speaker 1: the Patriots were able to do with Brady and like

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Speaker 1: pointed out that their roster was completely different from the

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Speaker 1: and they won another championship, and good for them. Now

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Speaker 1: with the Bills, we all know they've taken on some losses.

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Speaker 1: How good will they be? How good can they be?

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Speaker 1: Should they still be favored to win the AFC East

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Speaker 1: I mean forever. But now they have what Taylor rap

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Speaker 1: pass along with aj Epanessa. So you have some names,

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Speaker 1: you know still, Johnny, how good can the Bills be?

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Speaker 1: Will they be able to prove that they can sun

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Speaker 1: that roster and keep Josh Allen going as a contender.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think defensively they'll be okay. They'll eventually find

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Speaker 3: they'll they'll find themselves. They lost a lot in his

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Speaker 3: secondary I mean, Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer both gone.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's a that's a big blow.

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Speaker 3: Now, Taylor Rapp was getting some some reps last year,

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Speaker 3: so they should be okay at safety.

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Speaker 2: They brought in Mike Edwards from the Bucks.

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Speaker 3: That was a pretty decent free agent signing, but they

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Speaker 3: many injuries piled up. They had to move on. Kyer

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Speaker 3: Elam has not been the guy. I think they're probably

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Speaker 3: You know there's a name you didn't mention, von Miller.

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Speaker 3: They still have von Miller on the roster. The problem

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Speaker 3: didn't do a lot last year. Now, he was banged

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Speaker 3: just he just wasn't himself.

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Speaker 2: So he's listed as a backup.

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Speaker 3: Here he is and it and the reason he's listened

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Speaker 3: as a backup is he's gonna end up being situational

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Speaker 3: exactly situation. So he's not gonna be full time. But

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Speaker 3: if their front does a good job of slowing run games,

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Speaker 3: little bit. So I don't know that I work too

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Speaker 3: much defensively. I think it'll be not as good a unit,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think that's gonna be the issue.

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Speaker 2: I think with Josh.

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Speaker 3: And it's funny because I wrote this, and this should

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Speaker 3: be posted at Houston Texans dot com my ninety man

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Speaker 3: roster analysis I did to wide receivers, and as I

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Speaker 3: was writing about Stefan Diggs, I wrote about the fact

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Speaker 3: that's probably gonna that's probably gonna allow for more completions

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Speaker 2: Throwing the ball right, Josh is not that accurate.

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Speaker 3: Now, Josh can zip it to him in some areas

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Speaker 3: where you know, Digs maybe settles up in his own

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Speaker 3: that's what the Bills probably need a little bit more of.

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Speaker 3: They need a little bit more of. Hey, wide receivers

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Speaker 3: it on him. And that's a that's just not his thing.

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Speaker 3: That's CJ's thing. CJ's thing is pinpoint accuracy. You got

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Speaker 3: it on you now. Josh can also make throws in

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Speaker 3: all areas of the field that other quarterbacks, including CJ,

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Speaker 3: can't make, because Josh is just you know, uber gunslinger.

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Speaker 3: To me, the Bills take a step. If Josh stops

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Speaker 3: and to Kean Coleman and to Shakir and they use

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Speaker 3: they almost become pseudo West Coast offense sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if they I don't know if

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Speaker 3: continue to take a toll on him. Now I can't

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Speaker 3: remember who has listening to. They were talking about the

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Speaker 3: Bills like this is kind of a reset year. I

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Speaker 3: don't think they think that way. I don't think they

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Speaker 3: would think that way at all. But the loss of

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Speaker 3: Digs is going to be a lot bigger than they

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Speaker 3: want to make it out be.

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Speaker 1: I think the receiving corps the names remind me of

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Speaker 1: something Nick Cassario might have put together in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Here kind of names, you know, right, But are they

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Speaker 1: going to be good enough? Marquez Valdez, scant landing as

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Speaker 1: right to television entertainment. Hard Knocks premieres tonight, the off

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Speaker 1: He was amazing, Amazing play after amazing play, The play

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Speaker 1: a lot of negativity come your way, and I think

437
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 1: it's tough for him to overcome that.

438
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 3: I think very few people on the face of this

439
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 3: earth can pull off playing the villain and playing it well.

440
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 3: There are some people that can do it and do

441
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 3: it extremely well, but I think for the most part,

442
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 3: people want to be appreciated, liked, respected, all that kind

443
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 3: of stuff, and I think that's the way he's always been.

444
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 3: And I think now he's having to live life as

445
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 3: the villain. And even when he was with the Texans,

446
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 3: when we would go play someplace, there were there were

447
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,719
Speaker 3: people that were keeping, you know, his praises, opponing his praises,

448
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 3: his opponents, Yeah, that were just keeping praise upon him.

449
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 3: And then obviously what all has happened to him taking

450
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 3: a guaranteed contract the way the things went here in Houston,

451
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 3: he becomes the villain. Now now he goes to Pittsburgh

452
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 3: and it is not pretty. He goes to Baltimore, it's

453
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 3: not it's not pretty, and same thing in Cincinnati. Those

454
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 3: are you know, those are all places that he now

455
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 3: has to play and.

456
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 2: He's the villain.

457
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 3: When we would play Indianapolis and we would play Jacksonville,

458
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: there was this respect for him, and I think he

459
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: reveled in that. I don't know that he's in that

460
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 3: place right now. I think the biggest thing that he

461
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 3: needs is finding the confidence to either play the villain

462
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 3: villain role as best he possibly can or block it

463
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: all out and just find that confidence easier said exactly,

464
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:00,400
Speaker 3: that's my point.

465
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think that's that.

466
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: Easy to do off a shoulders situation and if and

467
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: if the shoulder isn't right and now you're throwing, and

468
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 3: if the shoulder's not right, now now you might adjust

469
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 3: and now you're you're throwing angles are different because you're

470
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: trying to avoid the hurt.

471
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just think that's a that's a

472
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 2: tough one to come back from. Quarterbacks have done it.

473
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks have done it, but not after going what he's

474
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 3: gone through the last three years.

475
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Speaker 1: More situations you'd like to see on Hard Knocks with

476
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: the Giants premiering tonight offseason Hard Knocks. I would love

477
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: to see the inner workings of the Charger organization with

478
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: Harball there, because I think that would be fascinating to

479
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: see how he is in the building him behind the scenes.

480
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: Love to see a Hard Knock with Jim Harbaugh. I

481
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: think that'd be cool stuff.

482
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 3: You kind of can get one kind of Michigan, the

483
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 3: Michigan one. They have all or nothing in there. You'll

484
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: see some cameos from a couple of current and former

485
00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 3: Texans coaches. Ben McDaniel's wide receivers coach Pep Hamilton and

486
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 3: was the offensive coordinator on that as well.

487
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: So all or nothing in Michigan. But it's it was good.

488
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: It was good.

489
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: But I do agree with you. There's something to be

490
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 3: said for you know, mixing. You know Joe Horties, who

491
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 3: comes from his GM, who comes from the Ravens. So

492
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 3: the Ravens have done things a certain way for a

493
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: long long time. Obviously Jim knows John and that's the

494
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 3: way they've done it. So I would imagine there's some similarities.

495
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: But where there are differences, how does that get settled?

496
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: How are things with Harball? I mean someundly you read

497
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 3: some of the things the Chargers players are saying and

498
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: they're like, man, we love this guy. And look, he

499
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: was in the NFL for four years.

500
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: I think it was. I think it was four years.

501
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: He finished eight and eight out last year that was

502
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: the worst that he had finished. He was ten plus

503
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: wins every year with a team that was the dregs

504
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: of the league at that time, the forty nine ers,

505
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: and then he got them back, got Alex Smith back.

506
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 3: So this guy's a good football coach. He's coming off

507
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 3: national championship. I think that would be a really good

508
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: I'll give you another one. Obviously, everybody want to watch

509
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. Then, you know, the the Micah Parsons stuff

510
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: has gotten to be very very interesting, very interesting. Malie

511
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: Cooker's talked about it just recently. There have been other

512
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: players that have talked about that. There have been rumors

513
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: about what people in the building are saying about Michaeh

514
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: Parsons that they they would be just fine if you

515
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: were no longer on the Cowboys. He's an incredible talent,

516
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: But it does sound as if there's a little.

517
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: Bit of just rubbing people raw, if you will. I

518
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: would love to see that.

519
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: The stuff that would end up on the cutting room floor,

520
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: that would be amazing. Just like we were saying, you'd

521
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: love to know what the Giants really think of Daniel Jones.

522
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: You'd love to the Dolphins just had in season hard

523
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 1: knocks last year. But what you'd love to see is

524
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel talking to his coaches about Tua and what

525
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: he really thinks about what they need to do about Tua.

526
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: And then you mix in Chris career and you're talking

527
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: about one of gonna do about this contract situation, and

528
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: you'd love to hear those conversations. So there's a ton

529
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: of stuff you'd love to see that you'll never see.

530
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that one, I'd love to see anything I

531
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: had to do with contract negotiations with Tua, with Dak,

532
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 3: and then Jordan Love. Jordan Love is he was in

533
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: that draft class as well, So I'd love to know

534
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: what the conversations have been because all of them are

535
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: not all in the same boat. Dak's been doing it

536
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 3: since twenty sixteen, but it's never been even the first

537
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 3: I remember the first time he was up for an extension.

538
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 3: It took forever. The Cowboys just weren't sure, they weren't sure,

539
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 3: they weren't sure, and then finally they did it. What's

540
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: the same situation, Well, Jordan Love and Tua. I don't

541
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: want to say they're similar, but Jordan Love's been doing

542
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: it for a year two after fighting through some injuries,

543
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 3: it's been the last couple of years.

544
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: I feel like they and the packers know what they have.

545
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 3: I still feel like the Dolphins don't know what they

546
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: have into a Tungo by law.

547
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: Well, my long suggested idea of doing business.

548
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: Ops hard Knocks.

549
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: I don't know it would be interesting to everybody, but

550
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: it would certainly be interesting on LinkedIn as a digital

551
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: show or something. The Cowboys, I'm surprised they haven't tried

552
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: this because you'd think if anybody was going to do

553
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: it would be them. You know, they're doing the Cheerleader

554
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: thing on Netflix, and I know they had the Cheerleader

555
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: TV show, but they're going deeper with the Netflix stuff.

556
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: But Business ops hard knocks New England Patriots. I just

557
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: want to hear the reactions of not having Belichick around

558
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: and that whole regime and the way they handled their business,

559
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: and just to hear the relief yet also lamenting.

560
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 2: You know what, it's fun now, but we're not winning

561
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: and we're not gonna win. The trade off. It's trade off.

562
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, it doesn't have to be

563
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: because look right here, we have a great situ exactly right,

564
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: it's exactly right. And I'm glad you said it, because

565
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: that's exactly what I was thinking, is it doesn't have

566
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: to be that way. You don't have to live in

567
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: complete total misery and win. You know, you can have

568
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: some joy and have some fun and win in those

569
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: of the years. You remember that much more on that

570
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: documentary they even talked about it. Twenty seventeen was just

571
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: a nightmare. Everything go wrong, went wrong. We were at

572
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: each other's throats. We were arguing blubblah, and they were

573
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: a few minutes away from winning another championship.

574
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and coming off of one.

575
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: Right, So it's how about that means they didn't even

576
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: enjoy the twenty eighteen season and won a championship.

577
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: I'll take that.

578
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: I'll take it to win a championship, but I'd much

579
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: rather be able to do it with joy.

580
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: In something I remember, yes, which will fun here.

581
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: So, speaking of suggestions that I've made that other people

582
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: have picked up Kansas City and Lifetime with the Chief's

583
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: Love Story, Holiday Touchdown a Chief's Love Story.

584
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: Did you see this? This is a movie? No? Wait,

585
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: this is way hold on, hold on, hold on? What? Yes?

586
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: So the Chiefs and Hallmark because Hallmark's located there, right

587
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: is in Hallmark headquartered in that hotel we sometimes stay

588
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: at when we play the Chiefs anyway, So they're getting

589
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: together with Hallmark Movies to create Holiday Touchdown, a chief's

590
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: love story, and it's not about Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift.

591
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: So I suggested it to.

592
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: Our video crew, I don't know, eight years ago, that

593
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: we do a scripted entertainment thing where it's some kind

594
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: of in the building and maybe make it a sweet

595
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: thing or some kind of season ticket member and they

596
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: have an adventure in the building and it's magicals for kids,

597
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: like Toro comes to life while he is alive, but

598
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: he's furry, right anyway, something of that nature. But nobody

599
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: wanted to everybody's all right, and I know it's a

600
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 1: lot of work. It was going to be a lot

601
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: of work. It's going to be a lot of money,

602
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: So why do it. I'm not really coming down on them.

603
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I brought it up. And I got

604
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: the idea from an old Steve Winn movie from Treasure

605
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: Island the hotel because they had a pirate invent closing

606
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: is that would well the mirage is but they would

607
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: show this movie on a loop in the hotel rooms

608
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: on one of the channels, and it was just this

609
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: holiday pirate entertainment thing tied in with.

610
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: My wife would love it. She would love it. You're right,

611
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: Kansas City, Missouri.

612
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: That's where the Hallmark headquarters, east side of the Crown Center. Yeah,

613
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: that's that's where we stayed in the Crown Center down

614
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: in Kansas City.

615
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: So that's what I remember. We've stayd that.

616
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'll be looking forward to not watching this movie.

617
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: So let's all not enjoy it together.

618
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: And Hallmark. Yeah, my wife's gonna watch Surprise you missed this.

619
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: My wife's gonna watch it. I listen, well, my wife

620
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: is out. You know this when your wife is away.

621
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: All the things I've realized, all the things that I

622
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: watch because of her, like all these like HGTV shows,

623
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: you're not gonna watch it, Hallmark shows. I joke about

624
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: how I don't watch the Hallmark shows, and then I

625
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: just sit there and watch and start asking questions like

626
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: halfway through, like wait a second, why is that guy

627
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 3: at this Christmas tree farm when he's from you know,

628
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: someplace out in California.

629
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: Even know, like you just can't ask questions.

630
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: So, speaking of TV, though I rewatched a movie or

631
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm rewatching it, I'm not done with it.

632
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: That you want to hear about a sports movie.

633
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: In the last segment coming up next though, we break

634
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: out the Texans Radio polygraph who's lying around the league.

635
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: We'll find out on Texans Radio. Right back to it

636
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: here on Texans Radio, Mark vandermir and John Harrison, we

637
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: break out the Texans Radio polygraph machine, and if Johnny

638
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: thinks somebody is lying, we will activate the buzzer. If

639
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: they're telling the truth, it's simply there you go, all right,

640
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: You ready for the first one here, Johnny, Yes, things

641
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: that have been said or mentioned or reported around the

642
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: National Football League. Let's start with our good close personal friend,

643
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: not really, but we know him and we like him.

644
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: Blake Cashman, who played here, did a good job, really

645
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: good job last year. Now a Viking, and he says,

646
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: it's promising to see how JJ McCarthy can zip.

647
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: The ball into tight windows?

648
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: Johnny, Can JJ McCarthy zip the ball into tight windows?

649
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: Yes? He can.

650
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: That's one of the things I think McCarthy was. Now

651
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: I say that, does he do it like every single play?

652
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: Does he do it like like CJ and every single play? No,

653
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: but he's got really good arm strength. He's more accurate

654
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: than people gave him credit for. But because JJ McCarthy

655
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: started his career in Michigan as a quote unquote running quarterback.

656
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: It's like with anything else. If you and I sit

657
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: here and start talking about baseball and basketball, you and

658
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: I know a lot about baseball and basketball, but the

659
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: perception is, well, they're just Texans dudes. They just know football.

660
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: That's all they know. They just know football. They don't

661
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: know any of their sports. We know full well that

662
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: we know other sports. We know him pretty well. I

663
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: think that's kind of what happened with JJ McCarthy. Look,

664
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: we know he's a running quarterback, but if you really

665
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: watched him, you realize, well, he did make some really

666
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: nice throws last year, so I'm not surprised in a

667
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: seven on seven situation when there's no rush going at him,

668
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: but he's able to throw the ball and stick it

669
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: in a spot where, oh that was kind of surprising.

670
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: I could absolutely one percent see that.

671
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: Now with a rush offensive line for the Vikings.

672
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: Is okay, not great, it's okay.

673
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: We'll see whether he holds up to that or whether

674
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: he is a one read, pull it down and run

675
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: sort of quarterback. And I think that's what he'll be

676
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: for a little while, and if he starts in that

677
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: Week three matchup, we play in week three, right at

678
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: week three, and that Week three matchup, we'll see whether

679
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: he's able to do that pull it down and run,

680
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: or whether he can get from one read to the next.

681
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: But he can throw the football into some tight spots,

682
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: and he does have some zip and some RPMs on

683
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: the football, there's no question.

684
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I can't wait to see the vikings up

685
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: there Texans Minnesota in a building that was a house

686
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: of horrors the first time they met in twenty sixteen.

687
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: We'll hope for better things this time around, in the

688
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: beautiful month of October in Minnesota, land of a ten

689
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: thousand late.

690
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: Ten thousand lakes, ten thousand lakes, some of them are

691
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: really tiny. Yeah, Blake's been ice fishing on some of those,

692
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure. So.

693
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: Keeping the Texans opponent thing going here, Mark Andrews, you're

694
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: familiar with his work playing for the Baltimore Ravens, who

695
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: will be here on Christmas Day?

696
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: Well, he was.

697
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: And this is one of those awkward things in sports

698
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: talk where we're talking about other men's bodies and how

699
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: good they look. He was talking about how good Rashad

700
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: Bateman's body is looking, and he said it is going

701
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: to be a big year for Rashad Bateman.

702
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: Is he lying or not? Al Right, he's not telling

703
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: the truth here.

704
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: I want to love Rashad Bateman. I liked Rashad Bateman

705
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: at Minnesota. I thought he'd be a solid receiver. You know,

706
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: I thought Rashad Bateman would be. I never thought he

707
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: was gonna end up being this bona fide number one

708
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: that you just go, all right, what are we.

709
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: Doing about Batman this week?

710
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: Guys coaching staff flick's around and they're like, oh man,

711
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: we got our hands full. I never thought about him

712
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: like that. But what I thought he would be was

713
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: a good like Kevin Walter, solid number two. You catch

714
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: sixty passes for seven hundred and forty yards and four touchdowns,

715
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: and that's that's what you do.

716
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: I don't even think that he's gotten to that.

717
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 3: Say Flowers, when you're you're preparing for the Ravens, you

718
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: go that guy, say Flowers. He worries me. What about Bateman? No, no, no,

719
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: we're good.

720
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

721
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: And you know Bateman last year he played in sixteen

722
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: games last year. Yeah, thirty two catches, thirty two catch yep,

723
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: all right, twenty two he played in twelve games, well,

724
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: actually six games, I should say, all right, so we

725
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: got hurt in twenty twenty two, so forget about that. Yeah,

726
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: his rookie year, twelve games, forty six catches, so better

727
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: production than last year even and last year they were

728
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: the number one overall seed.

729
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 3: So can he get better? Sure, we've talked about that

730
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: a million times. There's no doubt he's going to get better.

731
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: But to a point where Rashad Bateman is taking away

732
00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: targets from Andrews Isaiah likely and most importantly he say, flowers.

733
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: Not gonna happen.

734
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's get to the next one regarding

735
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: the Texans radio polygraph machine, and back to our friends

736
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: in New York or New Jersey, in this case, the Jets,

737
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: who are not bothered. This continues to be a story

738
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:24,959
Speaker 1: not bothered by Aaron Rodgers, unexcused, absence, lying, lying.

739
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: Totally lying. They are absolutely perturbed. Now is it on

740
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 3: a list of ten things? Is it number one? No?

741
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: Is it three or four? Yeah, they're perturbed by this.

742
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: There's no reason on the face of this earth that

743
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: a this should have ever gotten out, It should have

744
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: never been an issue. Aaron Rodgers should have known. Okay,

745
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: it's a it's a personal event or whatever it was.

746
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: You know he was going to do it. I think

747
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 3: that's I think it's hugwash. I think it is a lie.

748
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: And the fact that Jets are just like that it's

749
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: all good. No, that's a lie. That is a complete,

750
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: in total fabrication. It's cap They are bothered by this

751
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: whole thing. You're coming off an Achilles tear. We paid

752
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 3: you a lot of money. We made this trade with

753
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: the Packers. We gave them a lot of prospects and players,

754
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: and yeah it was great. You were there for OTAs,

755
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 3: but we were only there for OTAs because you weren't

756
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 3: going to be there for any camp.

757
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: No way.

758
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: This has got to be an all in situation. Everybody

759
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: in New Jersey with the Jets has a spotlight right

760
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: on them. Robert Solid, Joe Douglas, Aaron Rodgers, they have

761
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: spotlights on them. Where you've got to at least give

762
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: the impression that you are all in, as they say,

763
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 3: all gas, no breaks. Yeah, well that if that's your philosophy,

764
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: and that's what you want to be and I have

765
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 3: no issue with that philosophy. When the quarterback of the

766
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: team doesn't share that same belief and bales on mini camp, yeah,

767
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: that's an issue.

768
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: And they are lying if they tell you it's not well,

769
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: I think the it might not be the worst thing

770
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: about it. But a really bad thing is he's got

771
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: his money. He's already got a ring, he is guaranteed

772
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: X amount of dollars, and guys like Robert Sala, who's

773
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: not exactly poor, don't get me wrong. I have to

774
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: answer for him without being able to really say what's up,

775
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely, and they're still protecting him.

776
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: And it's his team.

777
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: And he said anything that's not about winning has got

778
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: to go, and there he goes during mini camp.

779
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 3: So more of that stuff he's saying shouldn't be there

780
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 3: in the first place.

781
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: It's an old story. Yet it's going to come right back.

782
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: Came back this week. It's going to come right back

783
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: when camp opens for the New York Football Jets, which

784
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: is not what they're called. But I was playing it

785
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: off of football Giants, and you know.

786
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: What I was doing. I know people like you know.

787
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: All right, here we go with one more item regarding

788
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: or that will be under scrutiny by the Texans Radio

789
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: Polygraph Machine. And this involves the natural grass at hard

790
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: Rock Stadium in South Florida because there's a concert coming up.

791
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: They ripped the grass out for the Gosh, I don't

792
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: even want to say his name, Feid concert. He's a

793
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: Colombian singer. I'm gonna say it incorrectly, so I don't

794
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: want to mispronounce.

795
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: Is he i d Fade Fade?

796
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's huge with so many of

797
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: the Latinos here in the United States and Colombians obviously,

798
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of Colombians in Miami.

799
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: And if the concerts is hard rock, you know it's

800
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: a huge concert.

801
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Anyway, God, they took the grass, no, no offense to

802
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: him at all. They took the grass out of the concert.

803
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna put new grass in on Monday and the

804
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: final is July fourteenth. Are they able to pull this off?

805
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: But let me let me just say this, this is

806
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: what's been said. The grass at hard Rock will be

807
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: in excellent shape for the Copa America Final. Are they

808
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: lying or not?

809
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: So they're putting it in a Monday. They got a

810
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: week they got yeah, six to seven days. They got

811
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: a week for the grass to or whatever grass does.

812
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 3: I've known of so many I think in their heart

813
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: of hearts they believe that's true, and they probably have

814
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 3: some science behind it. But I've seen teams in schools

815
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: and football teams.

816
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: Florida State was one of the biggest ones.

817
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: They would they would reside every single summer, and by

818
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: the time they got to October, it's like, well, the

819
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 3: grass didn't take.

820
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: Didn't take.

821
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: It didn't take. So they had they had a month

822
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 3: or more for it to do that.

823
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: But my thought was six days if you can do

824
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: it out here on whatever surface they have, which is

825
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: basically concrete, it's solid, all right, it's like plastic that

826
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: goes over the other field. And they put natural grass down.

827
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: And we talked about this in a previous show. This

828
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: time of year, you could open up the entire roof

829
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: here and bathe it and sun exactly. Now, the one

830
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: advantage they have. I don't know what the heat does

831
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: all day long for that grass too.

832
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

833
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: Is it good to have all that humidity in ninety

834
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: five degrees or now, I don't know. I'm going to

835
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: say that they know what they're doing. But this begs

836
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: the question. All right, So the coup of quarters here

837
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: on July fourth, right, So Argentina and Ecuador or to

838
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: bad Mexico couldn't be in it, no.

839
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: Effact thing that in that group they did. It was

840
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: a nil nil tie and all moved on.

841
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 3: Don't even get me started on the officiating from last night,

842
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 3: and boy, both things can be true. The United States

843
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: did not play exceedingly well, especially in the second half.

844
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: They kind of wilted. But the officiating was as bad

845
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: as I've ever seen. I don't know a whole heck

846
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: of a lot about soccer, and I wasn't listening too much.

847
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 2: I was just watching. That was that was bad.

848
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 3: You don't put a young official in a game like

849
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: that where you know a team, a big power team,

850
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: not in soccer, but just a power the United States.

851
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: It's going to be physical. All those games are physical, ridiculous.

852
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: So the answer to your question is it's a shame

853
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 3: that the United States won't have a shot to play

854
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: for any more at the Copa America six days. I

855
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: don't know, it's been fun watching that that tournament though,

856
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: having the having Euro tournament. By the way, your Netherlands

857
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: team played very very well, three very very well, many.

858
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: And not very good. But still I forgot.

859
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: They have one of my favorite even though he plays

860
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: for Liverpool, Virgil van Dyke.

861
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: I love him. He's fantastic.

862
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 3: I think he could play good Dutch names like having

863
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 3: Nico Collins as a defender.

864
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: He's huge, He's enormous. So Netherlands got a great shot.

865
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 3: They move on to the quarters, move up to the quarters.

866
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: That was a round of sixteen.

867
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: The COPID doesn't have a round of sixteen, which confused

868
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: me as to why Mexico and Ecuador wouldn't go to

869
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: kicks right, And I'm thinking, oh, that's right. They're still

870
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: in pool play.

871
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're still in poop play. But I'll start July fourth.

872
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: My guess is that you can out of a ticket.

873
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: Messi is already here in Houston, trying to practice to

874
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: be ready. He missed the last game of the group stage,

875
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 3: so I mean, Messi, it's just amazing the crowd that

876
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: he's How many different commercials is that guy on in America.

877
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: It's incredible.

878
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: You're looking at one of the most famous and gifted

879
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: athletes ever period in the history of the world.

880
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: MESSI.

881
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable, and now he has become I mean, how

882
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: many different commercials do you see?

883
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 2: Money? Does you speak English? Tons?

884
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for this segment. So they were

885
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: telling the truth as far as they know.

886
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, get me.

887
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: And why is the final in Miami where it's so

888
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: hot and miserable this summer?

889
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it is what it is.

890
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: Next up, I'm rewatching a great sports movie, or at

891
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: least a really good sports movie part of a great series.

892
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: You're gonna tell.

893
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: Me where are this ranks? Where it all ranks in

894
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: the sports movie pantheon? It's coming up next here on

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Final segment on the show tonight. We began

896
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: the program talking about c J. Stroud as a possible

897
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: MVP candidate. Look, this is other people drumming this stuff up.

898
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: We're all about the team, and we're all about CJ.

899
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: Tied for second with Josh Allen behind Patrick Mahomes in

900
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: that category. This whole show will be up on pod

901
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: soon enough. But Johnny, I've got a little bit of

902
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: a confession here. Okay, I did watch Creed previously, the original,

903
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: the original, but I have not watched the other two. Okay,

904
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: and last night Creed was on. I'm still the guy

905
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 1: who's like, what's on? You know, I got like, oh, Creed,

906
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: let me drop in on this. I like dropping it

907
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: on a movie as opposed to just putting it on,

908
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: because sometimes you just want to drop in on one

909
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: and rewatch a few scenes. Anyway, Creed grabbed me. It's

910
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: been a while since I've seen it. I've only seen

911
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: it once, and I just love the scenes with Sylvester

912
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: Stallone talking to the grave, talking to Adrian and Paulie

913
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: and the late Paulie now right, because Bert Young has

914
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: passed since the movie. I think he passed after that

915
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: movie was made. He's not in the movie at all.

916
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: By the way.

917
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm watching it with eleven year old Liam Vandermere and

918
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: he said, Daddy, I'll come to your grave and talk

919
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: to you, and the way he said it really touched me.

920
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: You know what, I'll be there. I will be I'll

921
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: do my best to answer back and not freak you

922
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: out in the process. Okay, I'll do my best. But

923
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: I think that movie is really good. And how are

924
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: the other two?

925
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 3: Where does this? Where does this stack up? How does

926
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: it stack up? Versus all the Rockies.

927
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: Now, I know Rocky five stinks, and I think Rocky

928
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: Balboa otherwise otherwise known as Rocky six is is actually

929
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: pretty good.

930
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 3: Okay, so this will be my unofficial ranking. Okay, I

931
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: still think the og it takes it. There's some character

932
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: build up that's needed, but I still think the o

933
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: G Rocky.

934
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: One is the best.

935
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: Slow in parts, slow in parts, but it won Best Picture.

936
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, so Rocky one. Then for me, I go

937
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: to four. I love four. I would put Creed one next.

938
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: I would put Rocky two after that. Whoa yeah, Rocky

939
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: three after that, and then I would go Creed two,

940
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: then Creed three.

941
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: All right, so wait a minute, not making the list.

942
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: Rocky Balboa, Rocky six like that one?

943
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: I like, is that bad? He got the speech with

944
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: his son. Yeah, I know he's got the greats, but

945
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: that's really what it is. That that was kind of

946
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: that speech.

947
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: I love Creed Creed one and it's directed by Ryan Coogler.

948
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: That's a different that's a different thing. He's a really

949
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: good director. He did not direct the last two. I

950
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 3: know he didn't. I know he didn't do two like

951
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: I thought the storyline for for Creed two was gonna

952
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 3: be awesome.

953
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to give it away, but no, we

954
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: all know what it is because it was in the

955
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: previous it's.

956
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: Drago's son, and so you're like, oh, but it just

957
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. It just didn't. Oh it didn't measure

958
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: that hit. It just didn't hit like I thought it

959
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: was going to.

960
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: I think if Ryan Coogler would have directed that one,

961
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: I think it might have hit a little bit better.

962
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: And and then and then Creed three is kind of

963
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: sullied by the actions of Jonathan Major's and all the

964
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: things yet going off off screen that apparently weren't that good.

965
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: That had possibilities too, But I just didn't I don't know.

966
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: I didn't grab me Creed one. Creed one can pop

967
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: on the screen and I will sit and watch. I

968
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: watch through the commercials. I loved Creedy Stlan's not.

969
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: In two or three, right, stallone is in two.

970
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: He's not into three. He's not in He's not in three.

971
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: And that does take away from it a little bit.

972
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 3: Just and I know you're kind of passing the torch.

973
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: I know what he's doing. But Creed one is fantastic.

974
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: It is it's thinking.

975
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: About this this series has nine movies in it.

976
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: That's a lot. That's a long series.

977
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: I know that's that's true. You know it ain't James Bond,

978
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: but it's a long series. Carl Weathers wanted to come

979
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 3: back before he passed away, and they just weren't able to.

980
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: What would they do. I don't know what they would

981
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: have done. I don't know how they would have.

982
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: Gotten He already played a ghost of sorts and happy

983
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: Gilmour right, so happy I got my head back and only.

984
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: Just be gone, I know, But yeah, I would The

985
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 3: original is and I love four.

986
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: I love four. It was it was during the Cold.

987
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: Four is a series of music videos. Yeah, it's awesome.

988
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: It's a great MTV movie, I think.

989
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I told you this on the air,

990
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: but with the eleven year old Liam, I actually started

991
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: the series with four.

992
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: I think that's what I started with Jack too.

993
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, because four is so watchable quickly, and it's very

994
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: easy to get ninety.

995
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: Minutes, I think, so you get in and out of

996
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: it really quickly.

997
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: And all the Russia stuff trying to get him to

998
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 3: sit down and watch one, so you kind of learned

999
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: the first time I watched one with the older vander

1000
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: Kid when he was younger. I fast forwarded through some scenes.

1001
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I need to see this Rocky

1002
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: and Adrian stuff getting to know each other and all that,

1003
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: so I thought i'd bring that up anyway. We're good

1004
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: for it tonight. Can't wait for another program tomorrow. We've

1005
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: got a special July fourth show coming up for you

1006
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: later in the week nd Kalou visits. So let's get

1007
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: you ready for a big week of Texans Radio Area

1008
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: forty five coming up.

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00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: Don't miss it. Have a great night, Go Texans.