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Speaker 4: Hey, do y'all realize how often y'all hear this song

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Speaker 4: now during football games?

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Speaker 2: I only hear it on our show.

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Speaker 4: Really, yeah, I hear it after like before every kickoff.

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Speaker 4: I'd be watching it.

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Speaker 2: Youping off of you?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no. I just think I never

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Speaker 4: paid attention to how often this song would use.

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Speaker 2: So does that make you more original or less original?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: I was just late to the party, I guess. But

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Speaker 4: it's a hype song for certain Bro.

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Speaker 1: Imagine when you get up on this Google Docs game

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Speaker 1: and some of the other stuff we try to get.

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Speaker 2: You to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be like you could be like

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Speaker 4: I should have been doing this forever. I don't want

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Speaker 4: to be exposed to that type of world.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to go the other way.

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Speaker 2: Huh, I'm not going.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to Nope.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you want to play taps again

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Speaker 6: as we are, uh well.

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Speaker 4: Apparently we're getting judged for you know, this is sports

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Speaker 4: Talk radio in well and has come for this team

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Speaker 4: one hundred judge for what you know, because there's some

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Speaker 4: some stuff really going on. Look at your your solo

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Speaker 4: swift and you see it.

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Speaker 5: I mean I try not to.

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Speaker 4: It's legit though it's as yeah it is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I mean, what are we gonna.

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Speaker 4: Do nothing except talk about the Bengals. The Bungals.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the uh that's a wrap on the Cincinnati Bengals season.

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Speaker 4: Really really nice things to say about their gift to

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Speaker 4: the fans coming into the stadium.

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Speaker 1: I mean time, dude, I don't understand how Bengals fans

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Speaker 1: get so defensive when you season ticket holders walked into

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Speaker 1: the stadium. They're a pay corps and they didn't even

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Speaker 1: pay anyone to wipe off your seat and pft. Mike Florio,

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Speaker 1: he reached out to the Bengals for a comment. Apparently

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Speaker 1: their reply was they prioritized the aisles and that the

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Speaker 1: be an usher there to help them if need be,

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Speaker 1: so the Bengals could be subject to fines because I

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Speaker 1: guess this is something that the Bengals are responsible for

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Speaker 1: and per the league should be.

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Speaker 2: Doing for their fans. But cheap asses, man.

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Speaker 6: My god, I mean, do you wonder how dumb it

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Speaker 6: is to the Bills. Whenever they have home games and

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Speaker 6: their snow, they'll pay fans. They'll say, hey, we'll give

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Speaker 6: you like fifteen bucks an hour if you want to

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Speaker 6: come shovel snow at the stadium like you. How many

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Speaker 6: Bengals fans would be like, I'm in, Like, get into

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Speaker 2: Probably now I'll give us some like free drinks.

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Speaker 4: I'll be snowball fighting like crazy.

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Speaker 5: You would.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah. I Let the people who are really going

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Speaker 2: If you have to do is have like an electric blower.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not like that snow is like packing

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Speaker 4: Think so shit, Oh well, then I'd definitely be in there.

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Speaker 4: Have my little backpack on. I don't want the battery

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Speaker 7: Hair rightights I get that off?

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Speaker 2: Yah?

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Speaker 5: How does it get to that place?

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Speaker 4: I mean they're pretty good in Buffalo. No, I'm talking

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Speaker 4: It's a damn Cincinnati.

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Speaker 6: Joe Joe Burrow, who everybody, uh you know, painted out

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Speaker 4: Uh he's not happy man.

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Speaker 6: Uh, borderline miserable. Joe Burrow spoke after the game about

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Speaker 2: My comments had nothing to do with Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: My comments had everything to do with me and my

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Speaker 8: Do you still have confidence in the people in the

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of confidence because I don't know how

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Speaker 2: People starts, the players playing better, and today with me

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Speaker 2: from the outside, Joe fans are.

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Speaker 1: They're going to say that the organizations top to bottom

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Speaker 1: this is a team effort. You know, at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, players got to play better on the field.

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Speaker 2: Today was me, I gotta be better?

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Speaker 4: What do you feel like everything not happy. Hey, when

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Speaker 4: don't they go? Don't they go? They can sense that

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Speaker 4: on a second. So hold on all right, now? What

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Speaker 4: was your question? Simple? Like, because what happens is is

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Speaker 4: So then you get you get caught into that rhythm

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Speaker 4: of now they've they've sucked you into their rhythm of

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna answer you questions. I got you.

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Speaker 1: He kind of did that the other day though, like

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Speaker 1: when when we initially played the sound and he sounded

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Speaker 1: like very down and depressed. It wasn't like he I mean,

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Speaker 1: he kind of took his time. He kind of was,

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Speaker 2: What they had for him.

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Speaker 1: I think the interesting thing is, like, if it's not

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Speaker 2: But I just I keep going back to this.

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Speaker 1: Do you think anyone in that locker room like feels

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Speaker 1: bad for Joe? Yeah, he's making two hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollars. Like, I've never been around a locker room

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Speaker 4: Oh I was. I definitely would have been the first

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying that I would have.

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Speaker 2: I would if I'm not saying that, hold.

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Speaker 1: On, I'm not saying that they're ostracizing him, or like

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Speaker 1: they're they're isolating him. Okay, I'm saying though, at the

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Speaker 2: Gonna pay two or sixty million. I think he'll be

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Speaker 1: Like most guys kind of look at it a very

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Speaker 1: But like I always feel like there's an element of

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Speaker 1: it's how you attack each day, how you approach each day.

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Speaker 1: And I just, you know, it's tough hearing him like

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna continue to say I would have been a

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Speaker 4: And yes it would be emotional because that's my teammate,

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Speaker 4: So I would have that emotional connection to it if

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Speaker 4: he was in a down, down spot. And you know,

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Speaker 4: I've been around teammates. I could think of one in particular,

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Speaker 4: what a douchebag, like just a blockhead type dude, and

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Speaker 4: he led everything with what dudes made? Call you make

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Speaker 4: da da da da da da da da dah. You

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Speaker 4: ain't got nothing to worry about. Like, And I used

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Speaker 4: to always tell the dude, I was like, first of all,

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Speaker 4: you're you're supposed to be a leader on this team,

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Speaker 4: Like that's first and foremost so the fact that you're

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Speaker 4: so immature that you're sitting there talking about dudes paychecks

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Speaker 4: is like that's unbecoming of you as as a person

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Speaker 4: and as a leader. For one, and then for two, like, bro,

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Speaker 4: why you pocket watching like you're a gazer? Br Like

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Speaker 4: what is your problem?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 4: Like this is the reason why we don't win? Like

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Speaker 4: do you understand Kat? Be ready to fight me? When

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Speaker 4: I had these conversations like this isn't a hypothetical, Like

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Speaker 4: I'm just throwing this out there, like you're the dream hero.

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Speaker 2: You were the hero of the situation.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying I was a team hero, but I

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Speaker 6: But that was always Patrick Ramsey's knock, Like that was

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Speaker 1: Like Joonnas in his band, they were always kind of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, tell me about it. Usually me.

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Speaker 1: This is not being an individual again, No, no, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Being an individual. I was just drawing our attention to

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Speaker 2: Teammate right now.

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Speaker 4: No know, what it sounds is like, is though you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know how many seats are in that stadium.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's not including like the luxury boxes and places

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Speaker 2: So if it was sixty.

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Speaker 1: There's probably forty right that would need to be wiped off,

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Speaker 4: Or even the ones that are under like maybe you know,

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Speaker 6: It looked like they quit. It looked like they realized, well,

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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow was you know, he's a force multiplier and

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Speaker 5: We're just gonna you just gonna mail it in.

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Speaker 6: Because they made Baltimore look good and Baltimore's not good,

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Speaker 4: They made them look real good. Actually, I don't know, Man,

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Speaker 6: That's why I wonder if if that's the case, how

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Speaker 6: I don't like calling for people to lose their job,

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Speaker 4: Want to, how can you, like, honestly, how can you

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Speaker 4: take it at face value that his frustration, Joe Burrow's

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Speaker 4: is the team, Okay, But can I defend the Bengals

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Speaker 4: And does that play a part in his frustration.

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Speaker 6: They had an opportunity to draft Penay Seol, they took

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Speaker 6: But they had an opportunity there and they draft his guy. Okay,

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Speaker 4: But again from your perspective and your angle, that's that's

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Speaker 4: I get that from his perspective and his angle. What

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Speaker 4: he's getting hurt? He's getting hit. He's getting hit, which

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Speaker 4: means he doesn't feel protected. If I don't feel protected,

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Speaker 4: I don't feel confident in what I have going on.

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Speaker 2: But that's what Jonas is saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Like, the point is

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Speaker 4: So the Bengals can't like. However they feel about it

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Speaker 6: Joe Flacco was born during the Civil War and he

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Speaker 4: So that's why I look at it.

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Speaker 2: What are you saying it's a Joe Burrow issue?

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Speaker 4: Just soft that's what John I'm not saying he saw

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Speaker 4: when his hand hits off of a helmet or somebody

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Speaker 6: Some people just don't have luck when it comes to injuries.

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Speaker 6: They get for whatever reason, their snake bit, whatever you

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Speaker 4: Like everybody gets injured, man, everybody. There's not one dude

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Speaker 4: Some guys they get injured and the injury is like,

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Speaker 4: You're lucky if you can get to a contract like

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Speaker 5: The ninety nine cent store of the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Before before an injury that can be used and held

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Speaker 6: I just think, like, well, you know, the Bengals have

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 6: Like, he's he's been paid, They've paid both his wide receivers. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 6: at I just I look at it and I go,

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Speaker 6: it's easy to just blame the Bengals for where Joe

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Speaker 6: he has stay healthy.

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Speaker 4: Was was t Higgins on the field yesterday? Oh you played?

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Speaker 4: Didn't he? Because he had the concussion? He was in

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Speaker 4: Jamar Chase was out there. Who else was out there.

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Speaker 4: Boy Boyd was out there.

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Speaker 2: Andre Yoshiva's boys and boys not there.

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Speaker 4: No, he's not even there. Yeah, yes, was there? Taylor

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Speaker 4: figure out who was out there? Like, because my whole thing.

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Speaker 5: Is Ikey Woods.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't out there. Green.

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Speaker 2: You should know. You should know one of the players

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Speaker 1: Mikeksecki's Penn State good Sickie Tinsley is the kid out

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I'll just say this, Drew Sample. They weren't as

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Speaker 4: it does because this lack of determination or wanting to

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Speaker 4: self preservation mode, whatever that may be. That that is

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Speaker 4: a situation that has to be managed by your coaching staff.

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Speaker 4: You have to have a pulse on your team and

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Speaker 4: leaders and making the same assessment. Even though the bigger,

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Speaker 4: the bigger conversation stems with the coaching it's the head coach.

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Speaker 4: He has to take the brunt of the blame for

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Speaker 4: of it. That's why you get paid the big dollars.

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Speaker 4: That's why you're the decision maker and you're put in

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Speaker 5: Does it warrant him losing his job?

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Speaker 4: Not saying you're calling for it, but does it warrant

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Speaker 5: They've missed a plan.

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Speaker 4: If you're shooting from the hip and you're saying, you

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Speaker 4: If you come to the conclusion looking at the analytics

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Speaker 4: injury or what you know, what it looks like for

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Speaker 4: you salary cat wise, with the amount of players that

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Speaker 4: his name, right, Zach Wilson Taylor, Zach Taylor, Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 5: Who's who cares.

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Speaker 4: Zach Wilson is the quarterbacks or quarterbacks? The quarterback Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 4: I just think that you got to make the decision

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Speaker 2: Here's that Tyler boy? Is he still there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Hadn't been there in four years?

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Speaker 4: I mean that long. That just means that's how delinquent

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Speaker 4: Nobody's paying attention to them. Close enough to even know

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Speaker 1: Just desire to want to compete and be excited about

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Speaker 1: He's a really talented player. He is healthy enough to

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Speaker 1: So we can talk about Zach Taylor, Zach Wilson for

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Speaker 1: Correct, that's right, that's right, shot in the dark, but hey,

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Speaker 1: someone's got to make those bets and we made it.

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Speaker 2: We made it, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Not a bad not a bad weekend for Quinn's wins.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to there a lot of state for coming back.

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Speaker 1: Fine way to win that one couldn't get enough points

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Speaker 1: out of boys to do anything.

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Speaker 5: I mean, my gosh, yeah, so would you do three

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Speaker 5: and two?

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Speaker 2: Three and two?

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Speaker 6: Over for the year over five bowl season. When you

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Speaker 6: don't know who's gonna play, that's not bad. It's like

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Speaker 6: NFL p.

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Speaker 2: Army covered for me.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunate for Jeff Manka and the Boys, though maybe out

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Speaker 1: the win.

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Speaker 2: I also thought it'd be higher scoring.

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Speaker 4: Gosh, I knew they were going to play hard, man.

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Speaker 2: Dang, they got herds.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't well, playing hard couldn't necessarily scorn points, but it

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Speaker 4: could pop stably mean not scoring points. Q. I know

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Speaker 2: Playing hard us. Yes, that's a possibility.

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Speaker 4: It could possibly potentially to less less points. Like Yeah,

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Speaker 4: some of those hits were like to me, was what's football?

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Speaker 4: There was football being played. You don't hear guys hit anymore.

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Speaker 4: You don't. You don't hear the collisions anymore. You did

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Speaker 4: in that game, they were colliding like I loved it.

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Speaker 4: Army had it, they had it.

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Speaker 2: They gave it away, so they.

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Speaker 4: Let them off the hook. Man. They knew who they

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Speaker 4: were and they let them get it. So but it

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Speaker 4: was a hell of a game to watch, man, what

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Speaker 4: a great Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I've got to get there. I don't. We've got to

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Speaker 2: get there.

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Speaker 4: I don't we get you should we should?

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Speaker 5: Gosh, seems like it can be done.

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Speaker 2: Most I think Lav and I are in the travel.

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Speaker 2: There are you in the travel?

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Speaker 4: Hell?

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Speaker 5: Why not?

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't that be I take you out of Annapolis.

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Speaker 4: You don't know why. They'll get some crabs.

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Speaker 6: In my U A huge fan of travel. Nah, I mean,

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Speaker 6: I'm good just staying home. But if it's for an

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Speaker 6: comes along with it and what it means, Like, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that would be awesome, and it's happened here. We've we've

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Where did I go? Anthony Gargana, Lincoln Kennedy went to

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Speaker 4: We were talking about So, yeah, I would love to

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Speaker 4: see it because the thing I love about that game

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Speaker 4: it's it's just football. Like there's no like, there's not

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Speaker 4: a bunch of you know, grab ass and Shenanigans.

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Speaker 2: It's just for grab ass.

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Speaker 4: Like it's just oh no, I didn't grab ass?

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Speaker 2: What what what other grab ass is going on?

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Speaker 6: It's like, uh like there's there's not there's not people

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Speaker 6: wondering whether or not Ryan Day's got a nipple piercing

625
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Speaker 6: like stuff like that. You're just watching the game and

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Speaker 6: going everybody, just keep that stuff in the holster and

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Speaker 6: and just focus on what this game means and and

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Speaker 6: the people that are putting their life on the line.

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Speaker 2: Did did I see the army stole the goat before

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Speaker 2: the game this week?

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Speaker 4: Did they?

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Speaker 5: I thought?

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing them bring the goat into some big

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Speaker 2: Huh. You have to look it up to verify.

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Speaker 4: Why not just get because why not just get a

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Speaker 4: goat that looks like the one that they have and

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Speaker 4: do it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, because what's the fun in that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean the fact that you feel the but that

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Speaker 4: the fact that you feel the sensations of we got

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Speaker 4: the goat, we got the Napolis goat, you know, we

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Speaker 4: got the.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, that's what we're saying.

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Speaker 4: That I mean, but without taking the real one, so

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Speaker 4: that there's no repercussions or consequences to that.

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Speaker 2: You know, Oh, I think you want if there's no risk,

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Speaker 2: there's no there's no reward.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, if you're gonna do it, do it right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh all right, speaking of doing it right, for

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Speaker 6: your Heisman Trophy winner. Here was a little bit of

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Speaker 4: In your shoes.

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Speaker 8: chasing your dreams are worth it, no matter how big

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Speaker 5: There is the Cuban force gump with this on Fox

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Speaker 1: Couple of things to throw out there. Fourth Heisman winner

668
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Speaker 1: in a row. I believe that as a transfer, So

669
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: do with that what you will. I personally I loved

670
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Speaker 1: his speech. There's a lot of people who are knocking

671
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: his stats, which here's the only thing I'd say about that.

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00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: And this is where there's a lot of ignorance out

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00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: there on social meid in the internet. If you look

674
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: at the stats for all the quarterbacks, they were down

675
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: in comparison to what it's been in the past.

676
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Speaker 4: And one of the.

677
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: Reasons is the actual pace of play.

678
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: So since they've started doing the coach to quarterback, teams

679
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: are running a lot slower because it takes longer to

680
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: get the plays.

681
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: In, longer to call them, longer to run them.

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Speaker 1: And there's also a thought for some of those teams

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Speaker 1: in particularly, I know this for a fact with the

684
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Speaker 1: Highot State. I know this for a fact with Notre Dame,

685
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: is the season is in most cases they're looking at

686
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: it being much longer than just their normal.

687
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: Twelve schedule games.

688
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Speaker 1: If you're part of a conference at least thirteen for

689
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Speaker 1: their conference championship and the potential of having to go

690
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: play you know, three or four games of the playoff.

691
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of coaches too who are trying

692
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: to limit snaps and opportunities. And if you looked at

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00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: all the stats of these players, they weren't as much

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Speaker 1: as what they'd been in the past because of a

695
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: number of those things. And then like the Jeremiah Love

696
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: they're comparing Johnny Manziel's rushing stats is it's like.

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00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: Well he was.

698
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: He's also splitting carries Nimrod like he's got another running

699
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: back That ended up being a second team All American

700
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: this year. So I just I do hate some of

701
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: the conversations that try to knock down these young men

702
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: for what they are on the field now what they

703
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: are off the field. There's an element of like, and

704
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, everyone's gonna make fun of how

705
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: Francisco Mendoza sounds. Sounds dorky, I'm sure if some would say,

706
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Speaker 1: And what's odd to me is like, I don't care

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Speaker 1: how it sounds. Like his matchic is incredible. He's got

708
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 1: a passion for the game. He stepped up and time

709
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: and time again made plays in critical moments to lead

710
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: his team to be the number one team in the country, undefeated,

711
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: winning the Big Ten Championship with the number one overall

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Speaker 1: seed in the playoff.

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Speaker 2: Like, you can't ask him to do much more.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, we can have a talk about

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Speaker 1: what he's going to be as a draft prospect and

716
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but I do wish we just appreciate

717
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: him for what he is and what he brought to

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00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: the game. And on the flip side, with Diego Pavia,

719
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: there's also that element too where I feel like what

720
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: he did on the field was incredible, uplifting, Vanderbilt. But

721
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: I think what he probably doesn't realize is he has

722
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: done as much damage to himself.

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Speaker 2: Who is going to be a player.

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Speaker 1: That's looked at, at least as an NFL draft prospect,

725
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: is probably a mid to late round pick in the

726
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: first place, just because of his height, and if you

727
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: really turn on the tape and watch him, he struggles

728
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: to play from the pocket, and that's just something that

729
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: you have to be able to do to be successful

730
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But the stuff he put out there

731
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: on social media, the way he's partying afterwards with the

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Speaker 1: f Indiana, the whole thing, the whole thing, and then

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Speaker 1: he puts out a statement that you could tell someone

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Speaker 1: with your agency or you can tell someone had put

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00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: out from Vanderbilt that it's not his words.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the f all the voters, family for life stuff

737
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 6: on social media that was there, and then what we

738
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 6: say at a party he was saying some stuff afterwards.

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Speaker 6: It's like, like, I know that he's.

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Speaker 1: Flicking off the camera they bring out ASAA says f Indiana,

741
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Speaker 1: which you don't think someone with his.

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Speaker 2: Crew is like, let's let's do this.

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Speaker 1: He's either got a terrible group around him and maybe

744
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: it's his family too, with his brother getting arrested and

745
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: get an awful advice or he just doesn't care, and

746
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: both are bad, especially if he wants to play in

747
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Speaker 1: the NFL.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I know that he's that Manziel's kind of

749
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Speaker 6: a mentor to him, but like, I don't know if

750
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Speaker 6: this is he wants so desperately to be that guy,

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Speaker 6: but he just like he.

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Speaker 4: Comes off I mean, manziel mentor him to be the

753
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 4: way manziel was. Seems like Manzielle has done a lot

754
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: of growing up since those days. So if he's, if

755
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 4: he truly is a role model to him, I mean,

756
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 4: I don't think that that would be the advice that

757
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: he would give him is to screw yourself.

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Speaker 1: I hope the part parts he just wants to bring

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00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: him down with him. You know, maybe he needs more

760
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: friends there.

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00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 6: The part the part I would the part I kind

762
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 6: of struggle with is and Mendoza mentioned it, you know,

763
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Speaker 6: during his speech and he's talking about all the legends

764
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 6: that are behind him on the stage, like basically the

765
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 6: who's who of college football, the guys that won that award,

766
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 6: and those guys go back there and they're so proud

767
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 6: to be in that room. Mendoza handled it perfectly and brilliantly.

768
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 6: And then you've got this other guy who's out there

769
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 6: doing what it's like do you not recognize the company

770
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 6: you keep? Like the fact that Brady you were you

771
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 6: were a Heisman finalist.

772
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: Well was there?

773
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: I had better stats than Troy Smith, Like you could

774
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: have made the Diego Pavia line. I mean, Notre Dame

775
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: had the worst season the history of Notre Dame football

776
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: after I left, Like you could have made that same

777
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: argument people were making won the Maxwell Award, which is

778
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: the other player of the Year award, right, so you could.

779
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: Have that argument.

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00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: I could have been salty about it. The reality is

781
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: is what it is.

782
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 5: But weren't you looking around that room going, do you

783
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 5: know how cool this is to be there?

784
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Speaker 1: Like just just to honestly, I I there's two thoughts

785
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: that went through my head with the whole thing. I

786
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: hate individual attention. So the first thought I always had

787
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: it was like, it's a it's a team award, like

788
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: my my thing was. And I know obviously paid now

789
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: they've got money and the Heisman trust. You know it

790
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: wasn't willing to then, but you know, these all these

791
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: teams and players can like fly their.

792
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: Guys out with them. I wish I could have brought

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00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: my entire line.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could have brought Uh Samarge. I wish

795
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: I could have brought like a bunch of guys you

796
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: know with me, Raymond McKnight, Maurice stovall guys who were

797
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: all a part of that, because it's it's not an

798
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: individual It is an individual award, but it's not like

799
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: every single guy that's a part of that.

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00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: I wish could have been there. That's the first thing.

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00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: The second is, you know, I wanted other people like

802
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: my parents to experience it, even though like they I

803
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,919
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805
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: I've never seen Chopper looked more like shell shocked him

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Speaker 1: But he hates being around crowds, hates being around people

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00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,960
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00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,880
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Speaker 4: be four fifteen. That's a that's a big ass dog.

882
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Speaker 6: Wouldn't that win if you if your dog could piss

883
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 6: up right, wouldn't that win you the Westminster Dog Show?

884
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, but they would have to go down,

885
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: they would have to pee down. They're just not they're

886
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: not you know, they're not angled that to be.

887
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: Would Why wouldn't he win?

888
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Speaker 4: Your dogg And.

889
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: It's just all about being able to teach a dog

890
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: how to peak. He can say, there's a little bit

891
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Speaker 1: more to it. He's got saying put on the wall,

892
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: would have a toilet smoking a cigarette.

893
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: Push it down a couple of long guards. He should win.

894
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: He should win.