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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, you want experience during your football season,

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Speaker 1: well buckle up, sweet cheeks. What we've got all the

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Speaker 1: experience in the world. This is I want your flex

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Speaker 1: with Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break

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Speaker 1: down everything you need to set your lineups, from position

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Speaker 1: those hard decisions. And now let's get your flex ond

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Speaker 1: here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 2: Ex hal Week seven is finally over. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: Was that the longest week ever?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 2: I mean seriously, I know we had the double header

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Speaker 2: on Monday night, but Bengals Steelers seems like it was

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Speaker 2: nineteen days ago because we've had the craziness of the

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Speaker 2: Alcs going on and this doubleheader hit. Mike up at

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Speaker 2: Swollen Dolm. You can find me at Dan Byer on

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Speaker 2: Foxy and Roddy's the executive producer. Find him at Ian

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Speaker 3: I know the Seahawks and Texans win three and a

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Speaker 3: half hours on Monday night. Oh my goodness. It was

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Speaker 3: a long Week seven, But it's.

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Speaker 4: It go back to that Thursday night game which never

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Speaker 4: ended because I mean, we and we're glad it didn't

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Speaker 4: because them in sixty four points two old guys getting

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Speaker 4: after it. Some of the fantasy guys that we've been

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Speaker 4: waiting for at least showed up. Whether they were in

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Speaker 4: we talked about Chase Brown of all right, he's got

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Speaker 4: to be a back end too. But you're wishing and

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Speaker 4: hoping that something big comes out of it, and it did.

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Speaker 4: And then you add the game overseas to start a Sunday,

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Speaker 4: so you add an extra three hours of viewing window.

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Speaker 4: So all of that, plus the league championship series and

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Speaker 4: whatever else you got going on on your weekend. That

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Speaker 4: was a very very long week. And then Monday night

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Speaker 4: football just wouldn't end a very odd start to it.

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Speaker 4: The way the Buccaneers played and Baker Mayfield, I mean,

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Speaker 5: Still don't know what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: But all of that to say, the final whistle finally

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Speaker 4: sounded on the Seattle in Houston game and then exhaled,

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Speaker 4: and I know you did, Dan and Ian working with

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Speaker 4: us this evening or Monday evening at Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 4: and it was just kind of like, huh, that was

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Speaker 4: a game. I don't know what to take from it,

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Speaker 4: but that was a game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was neither team wanted to win. Like the

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Speaker 2: Texans couldn't do anything offensively. Seattle was giving every opportunity

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Speaker 2: for the Texans to get back into the ballgame, you feel.

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Speaker 3: I know, Mike, you.

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Speaker 2: Guys talked about the kickoff that Jamiko Ryans and the

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Speaker 2: Texans chose to kick and play, which was a bit

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Speaker 2: of a recap from Week one between the Vikings and Bears.

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Speaker 2: But I also look at that play and about nine

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Speaker 2: others in that game of just coaching staffs that we love.

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Speaker 2: We love what Demiko Ryans is doing with the Texans defense,

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Speaker 2: we love what Mike McDonald is doing with the Seahawks defense.

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Speaker 2: But my goodness, what they're doing offensively or what they're

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Speaker 3: My mind blown.

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Speaker 2: Because the Seahawks are supposed to be one of the

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Speaker 4: Situationally, they are just I don't know how many games.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you sit down and you start charting

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Speaker 5: Why how?

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Speaker 4: And you wish you were in the locker room to

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Speaker 4: the coach to ask the question the thing with the

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Speaker 4: final final possession. For those that didn't watch that, and

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Speaker 5: I mean, Dan, you're.

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Speaker 4: Invested because of the team. For me, I'm just wanting it,

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Speaker 5: And then so many decisions.

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Speaker 4: fortunate and unfortunate. I don't have the benefit of the

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Speaker 4: But to your point, yeah, I mean Seattle should have

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Speaker 4: won this game by thirty points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were nine possessions in the fourth quarter. Run

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Speaker 2: the ball, and I think that's my point. I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to boil you for ten minutes to talk about

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks. But they needed to run the football, which

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Speaker 2: point right now is Kenneth Walker has become dart near invisible.

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Speaker 2: He is almost to the point where he is unplayable, Mike,

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Speaker 2: because Sharvon is not getting all the goal line carries.

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Speaker 4: No, that's just it, right, You're still getting a decent

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Speaker 4: that are disappearing acts, and you've got a forced game

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Speaker 2: They aren't built to run the football, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's it's pretty clear and it's the Texans are a

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Speaker 2: good defense, There's there's no doubt about that. But unless

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Speaker 3: Don't see the ground game.

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Speaker 2: Despite how some of the uh the analysts in the

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Speaker 2: like it's like it's a different problem with the Texans,

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Speaker 6: Dan, I would say, especially because Kenneth Walker is running well,

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Speaker 6: the few chances that he does get he looks better

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's not a threat out of the backfield

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Speaker 2: for the you know, pretty much for the rest of

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Speaker 7: The streak ends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these streak ends, And now what happens with the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: I with Mike Evans out, that's a big, big gap

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Speaker 4: Give a big shout to the back seven of Detroit

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Speaker 4: because here's a couple of stat lines from the receiving

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Speaker 4: core of the Buccaneers. Sterling Shepherd seven catches, seven catches, great,

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Speaker 4: some damage. Four catches six yards. Oh, I mean you

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Speaker 4: But either way, seven cadges sixty five yards for him.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, Baker was hearing footsteps and he certainly

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just four catches on the night for a BUCA.

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Speaker 2: think that Buka's value obviously will increase. Hopefully he gets

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Speaker 2: so they'll hopefully be able to rest up at that point.

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Speaker 2: But I'm also curious to see what happens with Baker

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Speaker 2: to roll. What other point from that game in Detroit

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Speaker 2: I mean, how are we still holding out hope? Do

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Speaker 2: we still look back at what Montgomery did against the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: telling us something without actually telling us something?

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Speaker 3: In Detroit?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not quite sure why you keep feeding in

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Speaker 4: the ball, right, You've had the one game, solid game

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Speaker 4: against Cincinnati, so you're looking at bottom feeders in THEAF.

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Speaker 4: No disrespect to Joe Flacco. He's elite and all and

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Speaker 4: a bad division. But I mean his two games where

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Speaker 4: So I pushed that otherwise you're looking at twenty five yards,

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Speaker 4: It almost feels like you're just trying to, you know,

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely not know what how this breaks down for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well, the New York Jets can trust

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Speaker 2: We don't even know their quarterback is going to be

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Speaker 2: other quarterback news that transpired from week seven. It is

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Speaker 2: I want your Flex. He is Mike Carmen. Hit him

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Speaker 2: up at Swollenome. You can find me at Dan Byer

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: We're still not sure of what the exact quarterback situation

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Speaker 4: Andy Dalton, that's right, Andy Dalton may show up on

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Speaker 3: They go and beat the Jets.

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Speaker 3: I think we're going to get a boost with Carolina.

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Speaker 4: And then we watched that fourth quarter. I mean you

435
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Speaker 4: would have been on air for this, Dan right with

436
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Speaker 4: a end zone radio. I mean, is that not the

437
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 4: most insane quarter you've ever had to chronicle?

438
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 3: I it was.

439
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 2: It was because it was a game where we weren't

440
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: paying attention because of the score. It's nineteen to nothing

441
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 2: going into the fourth quarter. I had the Broncos as

442
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: my survivor pick. It was going to be part of

443
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: my report card year. I had chocked it up of

444
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna take one on the chin there.

445
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a tough one.

446
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: When the Broncos scored to make it nineteen to eight,

447
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 3: I thought maybe Okay, well there's a little bit of

448
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 3: time left.

449
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 2: But when Wandel Robinson had the ball go through his

450
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: hands and then it ended up in the bread basket

451
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: of the Theo Johnson and he went into the end zone,

452
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that's it. That's how you know it's

453
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: your day if you're the Giants. Deflection through your guy's hands,

454
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: goes into his own hands and you get into the

455
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Speaker 2: end zone. Not too dissimilar to how the Broncos ended

456
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Speaker 2: up scoring theirs. But I just at that point Mike

457
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: thought it was over, and then with five point fifteen

458
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 2: to go, it was still twenty six to eight. So

459
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: then the Broncos scored on the next play and they

460
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Speaker 2: get their conversion to make it twenty six to sixteen.

461
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Speaker 3: You have the turnover and punts and what an absolute

462
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 3: mess by the way Jackson Dart maybe great, but Jackson

463
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: Dart made missed on a bunch of throws that really

464
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Speaker 3: could have ended the interception, and a couple of deep

465
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 3: balls that if you just get it to the guy,

466
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: game's over and he missed those throws.

467
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Speaker 4: Yeah, some of it again goes to the you talk

468
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 4: about throws, but also you.

469
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Speaker 5: Can run the football. I mean he can run, yeah,

470
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Speaker 5: but I don't know.

471
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Speaker 4: You know what he's already just the way he in

472
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 4: style that he plays, he's going to expose himself to

473
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Speaker 4: big hits. We've seen that, like he's taken on would

474
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 4: be tacklers in the middle of the field. Eventually you

475
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,239
Speaker 4: learn to see another day. But a design run just

476
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Speaker 4: to get it to the outside for three yards and

477
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Speaker 4: to run another minute of clock when you're up as

478
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Speaker 4: big as you are. I mean, that's the thing. They

479
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 4: still scored thirteen points in that quarter. We got to

480
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 4: take the kicker off the hook, but but they scored

481
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Speaker 4: thirteen points and still found a way to lose.

482
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Speaker 3: And Dark made a heck of a play on fourth

483
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Speaker 3: to nineteen to get them the first down on that drive.

484
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: And then the.

485
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: Broncos were nailed for a roughing the passer penalty, which

486
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: was atrocious, right, and then you had the pass interference penalty,

487
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: which was doubly atrocious. Like I understand Sean Payton getting

488
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: a penalty which only measured out to be about eight

489
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: inches because of how close they were to the goal line,

490
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: so it didn't necessarily matter.

491
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Speaker 3: But I would have been furious too.

492
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Speaker 2: And as I said, I had survivor action in on it,

493
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Speaker 2: So I'm like, you're gonna.

494
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Speaker 3: Call a pass interference on that call? You know?

495
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: That really helped the Giants and I don't know, ball

496
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: don't lie. That's why they missed the extra point, and

497
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: then Denver is able to get there's an heckt mike.

498
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: Even the last drive of Denver, the Marvin Mims catch

499
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: at midfield could have been deflected by Courtland Sutton. Sutton's

500
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: running his road acrossed. He doesn't get it. It ends up

501
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: in the bread basket of Mims to set them up,

502
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: and then they get the off sides call on Brian

503
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Speaker 2: Burns to get them another five yards and.

504
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Speaker 3: Just craziness.

505
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Speaker 4: Game of inches, man, like all over the place that

506
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 4: the Peyton thing get in the penalty that was just

507
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 4: in but like you said, it was for eight inches. Yeah,

508
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 4: so you might as well go, you know, have your say,

509
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, that was that was just insane trying to

510
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 4: track that.

511
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: By the way, we were just talking about teams that

512
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: aren't like getting it done. Denver's like not getting it

513
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: done either, Like there's just there's still something funky. But

514
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: when you score thirty three points in the fourth quarter,

515
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 2: you're gonna end up having some numbers. But offensively, I

516
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: just I just wonder. It just doesn't seem like they're

517
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: running the ball as well as they should have been

518
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: or could be doing. We know Courtland Sutton's good, but

519
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: who's gonna be that second guy to really emerge? So

520
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: Denver's got some issues. Despite putting up that thirty three

521
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: spot in the fourth quarter.

522
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, you look at JK. Dobbins.

523
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 4: This was his best game since going back to that

524
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 4: Monday tilt against the Bengals. A couple of well solid

525
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 4: game but not spectacular against Philadelphia and then the Jets.

526
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Speaker 4: For all we can mock them, the defense has actually

527
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 4: shown up, so the side of the ball that your

528
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 4: head coach is supposed to be the expert at. They've

529
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 4: given up twenty six points in the last two weeks.

530
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Speaker 5: That should get you a w right.

531
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Speaker 6: I wonder if Glenn has secretly taken play calling duties

532
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 6: from Steve Wilkes without wanting to publicly you know out Yeah,

533
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 6: who knows.

534
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 7: Just a conspiracy theory.

535
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 5: I like it. Let's print that.

536
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: I like those conspiracy theories. I don't know if the

537
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: Jets stood out to Ian in Week seven, but what

538
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: stood out to.

539
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Speaker 6: You Ian, Uh yeah, I mean, well not the Jets,

540
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 6: but division rival the Patriots stood out to me definitely.

541
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 6: I I'm really wondering if they're a playoff team because

542
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 6: which is just crazy to say if you think about

543
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 6: going in, which is wild, Like if you look at

544
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 6: their remaining schedule, I don't want to go through it all.

545
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 6: But like they have the Jets twice, haven't played them yet,

546
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 6: so that's two free wins. They play the Browns this

547
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 6: coming week, they play they still have to play the Bengals,

548
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 6: the Giants, the Ravens, the Dolphins, like they've got some

549
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 6: cupcake matchups coming up. And that's they already have five

550
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 6: wins on the season. And fun stat for you guys,

551
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 6: Mike Rabel five wins now this season as the Patriots

552
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 6: head coach. Since firing him two years ago, the Titans

553
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 6: franchise has a total of four wins. Wow, and Rabel

554
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 6: just passed them by beating them.

555
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: It goes to the point made last week.

556
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: That's why I think Callahan got canned what he did

557
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: just it was the it was the Mike Rabel homecoming.

558
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 4: No, it's it right, this was coming back and get

559
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 4: get clear that out of the house, and you know,

560
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 4: as you talked about all of the sideline and antics

561
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 4: and the back and forth in the at the podium

562
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 4: and everything else, it all added up. But Rabel doing

563
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 4: a hell of a job taking advantage of the schedule.

564
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 5: I mean, that was one of the things.

565
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 4: If you looked at dark Horse and Drake May has

566
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: been everything. Yeah, they hoped he'd be, and that much

567
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 4: more right twenty one twenty.

568
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 3: Three man, Yeah.

569
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: And like I mean, there are a couple of like

570
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: da Mario Douglas had a pretty good catch, but Stefan

571
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: Diggs has emerged, Keayshon Boodie shown he can play.

572
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: Hunter Henry is still a viable option. It's funny.

573
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: The only the only player to not really get on

574
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: track has been Trivion Henderson, who he had, you know,

575
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: expected to and we've talked about him recently.

576
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 3: But I mean, kudos to the Patriots to stick.

577
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: With Romandre Stevenson to being like this is how we

578
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: want to play football, and he's become a viable option

579
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: for them.

580
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: They they are the real deal.

581
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: They're all over under was eight and a half wins

582
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: this year, so there, so if you hit the over

583
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: that you think they were nine to eight. I had

584
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: them as one of my final wildcard teams in the AFC,

585
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: but they are absolutely legit.

586
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 6: But it just says it turns up the clock for

587
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 6: teams that are also in a first like the Jets,

588
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 6: you know, with like Aaron Glenn trying to preach how

589
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 6: this turnaround takes time. But you see guys like Mike Rabel,

590
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 6: like Liam Cohen come in and right away the teams

591
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 6: look way more competitive than they did the.

592
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 4: Pre figuring out And it's cliche, but it but it's

593
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: that for a reason, right, finding your identity slash culture,

594
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 4: whatever term you want to throw on, and they all

595
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: kind of go into a blender.

596
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 5: But you gotta gotta have a vision.

597
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: Right With Jacksonville, they decided, all right, well I might

598
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: be the quarterback whisper and I did some great things

599
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 4: with Baker, but unless we can run the football, like

600
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 4: Trevor's not that guy, right, because we're still trying to

601
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: figure out who their.

602
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 5: Number two receiver is, right, which right?

603
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 4: I mean, how much did they make of that at

604
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 4: halftime of that game yesterday? Zero defensive snaps like that

605
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 4: was the big deal?

606
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: Right?

607
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 4: It was all offense all the time, made a couple

608
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 4: of big plays, left a couple on the field. All

609
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: of that to say, you know, you're trying to figure

610
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 4: out that second guy. Go up to where New England

611
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: is and Dan, you hit it on the head with

612
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: with the Henderson Stevenson is like, they paid Stevenson a

613
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: lot of money and they're gonna go down swinging ball.

614
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 4: Security issues might still get him in the end, but

615
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 4: I've decided he's whatever that separation is, whatever Henderson isn't

616
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: doing in practice, or they're not seeing or they don't

617
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 4: trust him in past situations, all of that plays into

618
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: this is your guy. But in Rabel, it's kind of

619
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 4: like going back to the Dan Campbell whatever brash. You

620
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: may not love it, you may not like it stylistically,

621
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: but if the players buy in, it's winning football.

622
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I think Romandre Stevenson runs how

623
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel wants his team to be and that's why

624
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: he's so valuable.

625
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: Where Yeah, if.

626
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: He's fumbling the football, it's going to become an issue,

627
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: but he's so physical and he gives them that sort

628
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: of edge and then allows Drake May to go twenty

629
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Speaker 2: one of twenty three and hit his guy it's it's

630
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: truly something. By the way, to the point, I know

631
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: Ian wasn't trying to say this, but like Rabel is

632
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: almost a one of one. We're right in talking about

633
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: him and the Dan Campbell sort of thing. I think

634
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: they do things differently in how they do it. Yeah,

635
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: but I think that's the frustrating thing about this is

636
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm convinced, guys that half the coaches in the NFL

637
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: really don't know what they're doing. Oh, I agree, you know,

638
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: like it sounds, it sounds very flippant, but like to

639
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: understand like it's just it's meant to be a compliment

640
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: to the top half of the coaches as opposed to

641
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: those who are in the bottom half.

642
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: No, that's it. I mean we'll look.

643
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 4: We opened by talking about some of the situational conundrums

644
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 4: of Monday night, right, confusing coaching decisions and down distance

645
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: timeout clock management, which we do each and every week.

646
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: But you know, we sit here as we're taping late

647
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: on a Monday night at West Coast time, like, there's

648
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: how many coaches that you're looking at, going, all right,

649
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: did they get in past week?

650
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 5: Eight? Right?

651
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you look at Mike McDaniel Aaron Glenn.

652
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 4: Do they decide to just say, Okay, we're done. That'd

653
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: be one hell of a combo for a team to

654
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 4: hire as coordinators.

655
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 5: Though.

656
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought McDaniel was going to get the

657
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: acts on Monday, I really did. I was surprised that

658
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: he didn't.

659
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: Do.

660
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 6: You guys, see the clip of Quin Yeers coming off

661
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 6: the field after his first few snaps in mcgame.

662
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 7: Just didn't even look at him.

663
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 4: You didn't acknowledge him. Not a slap on the shoulders.

664
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 6: These are the little things at the margin that separate

665
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 6: great coaches.

666
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: You know.

667
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 6: It's like, just be a player's coach. Support your guy.

668
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 6: He just went in started his NFL career.

669
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 7: Give him some love.

670
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: It's just so they're sticking with Tua. And by the way,

671
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: I do want to say this, it's not that I

672
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: would know how to run an NFL team, Yeah exactly.

673
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: You know, so when I say, like the coaches don't

674
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: know what they're doing, it's not meant to sound as

675
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: disrespectful as it's coming off of. But I just I

676
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: just think like a guy like Vray Bold just he

677
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: has it. He has something that not every coach has. Like, look,

678
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: at Brian Callahan. You know, it's just he doesn't have it.

679
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 4: But like verybo lost a personality thing, right, you install

680
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 4: a new GM ownership decides in that vacuum and what

681
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 4: they were doing in the transition that the GM wins

682
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 4: that battle.

683
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't want a J. Brown traded, They traded AJ

684
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: Brown and then the trickle down effect. No matter what

685
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: I think of a J. Brown still, it's kind of

686
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: the domino effect. A Mike's a week seven standout stuff

687
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: to you, except from what we've we've hit on.

688
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 4: Well, we've hit that point where I mean, look winning

689
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 4: ugly from a real and fantasy standpoint, right, you know

690
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 4: you look at your Seahawks on Monday night and it's

691
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 4: Jack's it's jsn Right, it's his show.

692
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: I go back to the Bears.

693
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 4: Defense scored fifteen points, right, I picked him up in

694
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: a league just looking at my.

695
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 5: Other option streaming defense is this right?

696
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just turnovers, It's and I joked about it,

697
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: you know, the Lovey Smith angle of it last week.

698
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 5: So that's it. Right. We're trying to.

699
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 4: Steal points wherever we can in these leagues, and certainly

700
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 4: we've got enough offenses that can't get out of their

701
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: own way Vegas, Miami, et cetera.

702
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 5: The Jets.

703
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: So you're going to have that opportunity to go and

704
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: steal those extra couple of points. You may be, you know,

705
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 4: without that extra running back. And certainly we've got enough

706
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 4: injuries between the wide receiving quarterback position that it's going

707
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: to be a veritable gold rush on the waiver wire

708
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 4: for Week eight. But it's just that, like we've now

709
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 4: settled into we know what these teams are, go and

710
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: find the weak lambs and lead them to the slaughter.

711
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: I will also say this, I think that we look

712
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: at Ben Johnson with your Bears. It's coming in and

713
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: being like, all right, what trick plays is he going

714
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: to do? You know, when's he going to have the

715
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: guard drop back and run a flee flicker with you know,

716
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: sure Colston Loveland, but just to get the running game,

717
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: just to get DeAndre Smith swift and what he's been

718
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: able to do. I mean, he's over one hundred yards

719
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: on Sunday. If you can get that sorted out, it

720
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: makes things a lot easier for capable.

721
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 4: Well that's just it, right, he doesn't need to be

722
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: a world beater at one seventy two zero in one.

723
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 5: I look, he was one of my misses.

724
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 4: Thought it was an opportunity for them to put up

725
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 4: some points, take advantage of expecting the defense to do

726
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: what it really did. But he wasn't the beneficiary. He

727
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: didn't make it play in the passing games. So that look,

728
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 4: if you listen to the post game, I guarantee it,

729
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 4: you guys will not find a post game in any

730
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 4: city better than Dan Hampton and ed Obradovich, because even

731
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: if they win by two touchdowns like they win here

732
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: twenty six fourteen, you'd still think they lost by forty like.

733
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 5: It is the best. Yeah, yeah, and that event.

734
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: Occasionally you'll hear you can almost hear the paper of

735
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 4: the producer saying, remind people that the Bears won, because

736
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: the way you've talked for the last fifteen minutes, you

737
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: would have thought it was a blood the other way. Curiosity, though,

738
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 4: is moning guy getting the thirteen carries for eighty one

739
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 4: yards he did. He's someone we talked about a little

740
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: bit in the preseason, flashed a bit for him. It

741
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 4: now looks like he's firmly supplanted Rashawn Johnson and anybody

742
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 4: else as a number two, and the fact that they

743
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: relied on the run game as much as they did

744
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 4: is impressive. Obviously, we know that's what Ben Johnson would

745
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 4: love to do given that time in Detroit, but to

746
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 4: actually be able to commit to it. And I'll give

747
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 4: DeAndre Swift credit. I put him only as a ninja

748
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: instead of a hot play last week because I didn't

749
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 4: trust that they'd do it. So they did good on

750
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: them and they got runs over twenty yards from both

751
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: of those guys, So that was encouraging, not just Hey,

752
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 4: I'm going to Baltimore hoping that they have some semblance

753
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 4: of an offense, and then we'd be remiss if we

754
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 4: didn't at least acknowledge. The Chiefs are looking scary again.

755
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 7: For Shure Rice two touchdowns in his first game back.

756
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they treat they treated him like you know,

757
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 2: he was scorn and I'm so mad at myself because

758
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: I had him in my lineup guys, but I replaced

759
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: him with Mike Evans because hey, Evans is coming back

760
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: Monday night. The Lions don't have a secondary. Sure, I

761
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: took out Rashie Rice to put in Mike Evans, and

762
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 2: I should have known, especially with the Raiders in town

763
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: that they would have tried to do it. They did

764
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: to get Rashie Rice the football. Yeah, I'm in an

765
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: err on that.

766
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: One seven of ten, forty two and two so red

767
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 4: zone efficiency. Talk about what nine guys with at least

768
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 4: one reception for Kansas City but an offense over the

769
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 4: last month, that's been fantastic, the defense stuff getting Look,

770
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: the Raiders stink. There's no to if Andrew Butts I

771
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: think I was driving up and Daniel Jeremiah still licking

772
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 4: his wounds from what happened to the Chargers, because that's

773
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 4: a whole other kettle of fish, as it were, because

774
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: they were absolutely decimated and destroyed in that matchup against

775
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 4: the Colts. First quote, real team. Maybe for the Colts

776
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 4: that we say, hey, they went and put a herding on,

777
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 4: because we have a lot of dismissiveness about their schedule

778
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 4: early on. But the fact that the Raiders, this is

779
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 4: something Jeremiah said in real time, possessed the ball for

780
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: less than five minutes if you just watched it together,

781
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: like without the you know, forty seconds of stoppage and

782
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: whatever else, right that runs.

783
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 3: They had three first downs and it was the fourth quarter,

784
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: Geno Smith had sixty seven yards passing. It was Oh,

785
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: by the way, they finished with three first downs. They

786
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: didn't even get one.

787
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 4: It's brought Flowers, the MVP at the NFL eight seven seven.

788
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: My goodness.

789
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: I just saw the stat and I wrote it down

790
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 2: on my notes, and like, they've got three first downs

791
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: and it's the fourth quarter, and because it was a blowout,

792
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: I didn't pay much attention. And now I just went

793
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: to the team stats. They finished with three first downs. Oh,

794
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 2: my goodness.

795
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 4: Once that's amazing, right, but in ninety five total yards.

796
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: Oh man, the Raiders logo wish he had patches over

797
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: both eyes so he wouldn't have to watch that crap.

798
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 7: Chip Kelly should have just stayed at Ohio.

799
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 5: No, he's getting paid six million dollars for this.

800
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 6: You look at Matt Patricia now at Ohio State, like

801
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 6: these failed head coaches should just stay in college and there's.

802
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: A place to be. You get to you know, you

803
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: get to coach the kids that are well paid now

804
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: as well. Uh tell you what the Ohio State running

805
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: game may need, Chip Kelly. Actually, then they quinch On

806
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: Judkins and Trevion Anderson again. But that's another story. All right,

807
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: that's that's kind of our look at week seven. We'll

808
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: have more on this on our next episode. And just

809
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: stuff popping up in the league. What's gonna happen with

810
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels and the Commanders, maybe some of the fears there,

811
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: and and and what's ahead as we start to get

812
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 2: into the heavy buys. But speaking of the heavy buys,

813
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 2: Mike's gonna have your waiver wire picks coming up four

814
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: week eight, plus we'll do our report card check on

815
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: what hit and what missed. I'm afraid to say I

816
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: may have swung mightily and came up with a lot

817
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: of air on the points of Palooza, but we'll talk

818
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: about it next year on I WAT your Flex. All right, Mike,

819
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: let's get to the waiver wire for week eight, because

820
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 2: again there are six teams on buy something a little

821
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: different as the Jaguar, Seahawks, Cardinals, Rams, Raiders and Lions

822
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: all will have the week off.

823
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: Who we picking up in week.

824
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: Eight, Well, we're going deep down the rabbit hole, right.

825
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 4: We already talked about monding guy with his fifteen touches

826
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: game against the Ravens. That defense didn't get healthy suddenly

827
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 4: after a bye week. So there we talk about al

828
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 4: Gier going up against Miami, just talking about game situation.

829
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 4: I have no idea what kind of effort we're getting

830
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 4: from Miami. I never want to talk about heart and

831
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: quitting from NFL teams, but they're just not good even

832
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: if that max efforts. So expecting the run game there

833
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 4: to have a big day.

834
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 5: R J.

835
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 4: Harvey showed up towards the end, He's still virtually unowned.

836
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: And it's the kind of thing we talk about Dobbins

837
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: for the long haul. I mean, now we're playing the

838
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 4: long game here of making sure we're shoring up. That

839
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: brings us to Spears as well. Keaton Mitchell, is he

840
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 4: a member of the Ravens or is he a guy

841
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: that gets them a defensive helper along the way. Not

842
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: quite sure. Brishard Smith mentioned him five catches forty two

843
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 4: yards as part of what's going on in Kansas City.

844
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: Look beyond Rashid Rice. Not sure what the workload is

845
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 4: for all of these guys, and that's includes Travis Kelce

846
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 4: as to how much he's kind of in mothballs till

847
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 4: they need him for a stretch run. But when we

848
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 4: look at the run game and trying to find a

849
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: little diamond in the rough. We go there, talk about Houston,

850
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 4: not sure what Nico Collins' status for next week will be,

851
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 4: but left with a concussion. That was what we were told.

852
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: So when we look at Houston, you're looking at Dalton Schultz.

853
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 4: You're looking at Jalen Noel who ended up with seven targets,

854
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 4: four catches, seventy seven yards, rookie out of Iowa State.

855
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: So perhaps an opportunist there. Romeo Dobbs eleven catches for

856
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty seven yards the last two weeks.

857
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: He's still unowned in about forty percent of league. So

858
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: perhaps a guy you can go find Aronde Gadston if

859
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: we want to go take a deeper view here. Already

860
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 4: mentioned Dalton Schultz is the tight end. Well, let's keep

861
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 4: going because guys with bigger shares that are going to

862
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 4: be big parts of the offense. Pat Fryermuth had that

863
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: big game against Cincinnati. Hang it with you know, a

864
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 4: little star on it that it's the Bengals. But also

865
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 4: we know Aaron Rodgers loves his tight end position. Historically

866
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: he's healthy. Yeah, you might have those games where he's

867
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 4: the lesser between he and John new Smith. But there

868
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 4: will be the opportunities where everybody plays, everybody wins. Now

869
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: quickly back to the quarterbacks. For whatever reason, people have

870
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 4: been reticent to add Jackson Dart. They don't know why

871
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 4: he's still out there in a bunch of leagues. Flacco's

872
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: got the Jets revenge game, anybody.

873
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 3: No, Yeah? Good?

874
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: A lot of them, yeah, exactly at this point, a

875
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 4: lot of jerseys up. He could make a quilt like

876
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 4: my daughter's doing with all the old concert shirts. Sauces

877
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 4: banged up. May or may not be available for this one.

878
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: But even if he is five hundred and fifty yards

879
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 4: five touchdowns the last two weeks for Flacco, Look, he's

880
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 4: got two wide outs that you could just throw it

881
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 4: up and go get it. And I know that we

882
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: talk about coaches and where that line of demarcation is.

883
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: Certainly we have that for quarterback play. We talked if

884
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: he were able to go PANDIX would be a good start. Well,

885
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 4: now it's Kirk Cousins again. Speculative pickup play, Rogers going

886
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 4: up against the old team of Green Bay. Yeah, sign

887
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 4: me up for that one. And then the Andy Dalton

888
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: Fest against Buffalo, assuming at least for one week that

889
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 4: he gets a run.

890
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: Green Bay three and a half point favorite that I'm

891
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: looking at right now. That surprised me a little bit

892
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: for Sunday Night.

893
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 5: But well, I think some of it.

894
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 4: I mean in that defense, yeah, and man, the pass rush,

895
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: and they had a couple of weeks in a row

896
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 4: of five sack games to help push it. But you

897
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 4: know that secondary can be had. That maybe just the

898
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 4: veteran acumen and the idea that that Aaron Rodgers is

899
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 4: just a salty curmudgeon. I mean, look out what Maddy

900
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 4: got at the offensive lineman that jumped on him.

901
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, that was really funny. I get it, though.

902
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 5: I agree. I'm forty years old. Man, come on.

903
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Watching the Seahawks, this popped into

904
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: my head. I was like, you know, watching Donald make

905
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: some bad throws, like, you know, if Aaron Rodgers makes

906
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: the good throws that Sam Donald was, maybe you know,

907
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: Rogers wouldn't throw the interceptions. And then I remembered the

908
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: chuck up to the begels.

909
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. He still does

910
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: that every once in a while.

911
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 5: Yeap, hey, go get it, Fellas.

912
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is here it is. By the way, the

913
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: lines four week eight, there are just four games on

914
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: the schedule with a line of three and a half

915
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: or less. Everything is north of that, so we may

916
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: have some one sided affairs, or it could be the

917
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: NFL and everything flips over on its head.

918
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 5: For week eight, just what you think you got it

919
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 5: figured out?

920
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, let's do our report cards quick. We'll start

921
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: with Ian, we'll work through me and Mike. You can

922
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: wrap it up with your report card. How the streaming

923
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: defenses work for week seven?

924
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 6: In Yeah, Mike, you mentioned it earlier in the show.

925
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 6: But yeah, Chicago Bears they ended up getting you fifteen

926
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 6: fantasy points, only allowed fourteen points on the day, got

927
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 6: three interceptions, a fumble recovery, and four sacks. Jacksonville Jaguars

928
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 6: had a negative negative.

929
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 7: One fantasy points. We'll skip over that one really quick.

930
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 6: Then Carolina Panthers they got you sixteen fantasy points. Six

931
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 6: points allowed on the day, two interceptions and six sacks.

932
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 6: So Panthers and Bears were great plays for you. The

933
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 6: Jaguars will just gloss over that one's yeah, minus one

934
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 6: not great day for them, but the other two awesome.

935
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 5: But I give you a lot of credit.

936
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 3: Dan.

937
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 4: I just want to make this point because this is

938
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: a fight I used to have with a lot of

939
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 4: football players before they realized how much money fantasy really

940
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: brought to their pockets. Was like, how do you pick

941
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 4: Like you're a Chicago guy, how could you pick up

942
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: Brett Fahr? Like pretty easy? Nobody's getting shut out? Like

943
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 4: shutouts are rare, okay, Jets sho or Raiders or whatever.

944
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 4: But the idea is like, if they're going to score

945
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 4: twenty two points a game or whatever it is, might

946
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 4: as well be on my team.

947
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, might as well be a benefactor.

948
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: Right.

949
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 4: So you saying, hey, Caroline, against the Jets, you learned

950
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 4: that lesson very very early, something that I think people

951
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 4: still grapple with.

952
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: Well, I did pick up the Bears defense as a

953
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: streaming defense, so they helped me.

954
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: This week.

955
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: I just benched the Texans because they were going up

956
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: against my Seahawks, and Sam Donald and the Seahawks made

957
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 2: it a more of a field day than I would

958
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: have liked in that matchup. But yeah, the streaming defense

959
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 2: advice of the Panthers and Bears definitely hit.

960
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: So we'll just forget about the Jaguars.

961
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: Just like we're gonna forget about my points of palooza,

962
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: where I don't even know if I mentioned it in

963
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 2: the podcast. I had it written down it was Falcons Niners,

964
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: So if I didn't mention it, I'm glad that I didn't,

965
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: but that would have.

966
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: Been an absolute miss.

967
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: Again, I can't take the highest point totals each week,

968
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: so I tried to look a little below. I just

969
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 2: thought maybe that the Falcons would be worn out because

970
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 2: of the short week and the long travel they were,

971
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: But they then only put up ten points against the

972
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: depleted forty nine Ers team, but a heck of a

973
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: game for Christian.

974
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: McCaffrey Survivor wise guys. Outside of the Steelers losing on

975
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: Thursday Night status quo. Through Week seven, everybody advanced yes

976
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: you have.

977
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: The Packers were popular, Chiefs were popular, The Broncos were

978
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 2: a popular pick. So that thirty three point fourth quarter,

979
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: including in one of my entries, that was the one

980
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: that I thought was the sure thing the question marks

981
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: that I said, if you really wanted to play, and

982
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: you really wanted to play Survivor, right, you could go

983
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: Bears and Browns. They were both winners. I actually wish

984
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: I would have listened to my own advice. At the end,

985
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: I took out the Browns and put the Patriots in

986
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: Cardinal Sin. I apologize, but everybody advanced. So a lot

987
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 2: of people still alive heading into Week eight of Survivor

988
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: because there just wasn't much carnage in week seven.

989
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that Brown's went tough, though I could see that

990
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 4: that toggle going. Do I really trust him? It's there

991
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: for us, It's there.

992
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: I gave the reasoning on the pod, the weather, the

993
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: Browns unit home game, the whole deal, and just how

994
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 2: much of a mess the Dolphins were. But I just

995
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: thought there's no way Rabel is losing his return. And

996
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: I didn't think that there would be a way. And

997
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 2: I mentioned this on Sunday that the Broncos would lose

998
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: when they are inducting Damarius Thomas into the Ring of Honor.

999
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you what. I don't know what you believe,

1000
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: but I'm thinking Denver had a little extra on their

1001
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: side Sunday. Believe whatever you want, but my goodness to

1002
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: have that come back against the Giants on that day

1003
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: quite the story.

1004
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 5: One of my favorites.

1005
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: And watching the you know Peyton Manning interview and some

1006
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 4: of those other things. Man, that's whenever we get into

1007
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 4: you know, the in look sports talk radio hot take nonsense,

1008
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 4: forgetting about the human element in the in the locker

1009
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 4: rooms and what these guys really mean to each other.

1010
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: I just advise folks, go find the Peyton Manning clip. Yeah,

1011
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 4: whether you like the Manning cast or tired of him

1012
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 4: on commercials, whatever, the guy you know talking about his

1013
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 4: relationship with DT and everything was just next level stuff.

1014
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Mike, what did you gosh looking at your wide receivers?

1015
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: Hit hit hit hit hit. My goodness, Yeah.

1016
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 5: We we had.

1017
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 4: We had a good run, right, CD came back in

1018
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 4: Grand Faction. We talked about JSN and I'm on Rossaint Brown,

1019
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 4: DeVante Adams with a big day, So we get our

1020
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 4: victories there. Brian Thomas leaves us wanting as he he's

1021
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 4: want to do, but we survive. Running back wise, you know,

1022
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: Vijon found the end zone, but not necessarily the fireworks

1023
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 4: that we were hoping for. McCaffrey picked up for us.

1024
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs, who scared us a little bit with that

1025
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 4: report that he was a true game time decision. I'll

1026
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 4: never believe the words true game time decision. Again, if

1027
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 4: the word true shows up, the guy is gonna play,

1028
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 4: and he's gonna play in big, big fashion. Javonte Williams

1029
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 4: finish as a top ten guy for us as well

1030
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor. I mean, what else is there to say

1031
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: about what that offense did to that Chargers defense. I

1032
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 4: think that should be outlawed, and it might actually be

1033
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: in a couple of states. We look at Dak and

1034
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 4: may and Hertz and Mahomes all finished strong for us.

1035
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 4: Mayfield left us wanting, and Jade Daniels left unfortunately in

1036
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 4: what could have been a big spot. But you know,

1037
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: look at the Cowboys rolling things up, and then Jared

1038
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 4: Goff tepid at best. From our hot plays, Cold Soars

1039
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 4: and Ninja's Bone Nicks Daniel Jones find find their way

1040
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 4: to QB one status. Addison had a big day for

1041
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: Shee Rice in his return gave us some love as

1042
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 4: well as Judkins Cold Soars right. I mean, I feel

1043
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 4: like I'm cheating putting two on any list at this point,

1044
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 4: so I won't do that again. And Juwan Jennings was

1045
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: was a also ran the Ninjas swift we mentioned him

1046
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 4: and Stevenson still giving us some love. We mentioned Tees Johnson,

1047
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: so I'll take the victories. As for the Els, gave

1048
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: a couple in the top fives, but Caleb Williams gave

1049
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 4: me nothing. Kamara gave me nothing. Against the Bears, it

1050
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 4: was all Chris o'lave go, buck ass, Jackson Dart I

1051
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 4: had as a cold star, thinking, hey, Denver will contain him.

1052
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 5: No, they won't.

1053
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 4: Likewise, camp Scadavo did his thing. DeVante Smith one of

1054
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 4: your biggest scores of the week, so still trying to

1055
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 4: figure out what the hell the Eagles are at this point.

1056
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 4: And then I had Michael Pittman down. He finished as

1057
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 4: a number two, so good on him. Justin Fields as

1058
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 4: a ninja, you were right to call me out and

1059
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: call me an idiot, so you both get extra cheese

1060
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: at a date to be determined. So yeah, we hit

1061
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 4: more than we missed, but a couple of big swings

1062
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 4: that left me us smarting, no question.

1063
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: Well, I think, all in all though, is a pretty

1064
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: good week for you on the especially with the rankings.

1065
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: I think you and basically your top four we're golden

1066
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: for what we had a week ago. Hopefully we can

1067
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: carry that momentum into week eight again. Six teams on buys,

1068
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: so prepare accordingly. We're going to dive into that and

1069
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: so much more as we start to hit the get

1070
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 2: towards the middle of the season. There's also a trade

1071
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: deadline coming up that could be a factor as well.

1072
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: All topics we're going to dive into here and I

1073
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: want your flex. So for our executive producer Ian Roddy

1074
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: and Mike Harmon, I'm Dan Byer. We hope you had

1075
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: success in week seven. Can't wait to talk to you

1076
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: more than week eight. Here and I want your flex.