1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: your bet. So this met Joey b Joe Pisapia and 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: this is BP NFL with me as always as the Undertaker, 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Andrew Ericson. Happy thanks Giving everybody. It's the look Ahead 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: week now. We will be doing some specials coming up 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: this week, so stay tuned. We have the Thanksgiving Special 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: with myself, Scott Bogman and Andrew Rickson breaking down the 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: games and the props for Thanksgiving. Also the Black Friday Special. 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Don't miss that, you know, if it's not twenty percent 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: off or anything like that. 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Andrew ericson, let's clump these together because I 31 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: know tomorrow we're recording the Thanksgiving Special. We're gonna really 32 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: do a deep dive on these games. Chicago Detroit ten 33 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: and a half point favorites. Detroit, we've seen what they've done. 34 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: Whenever they have double digits, they put a stomping on 35 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: people at home. Forty eight is the number, plus four 36 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: fifty for Chicago on the upset, which I don't think 37 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: any of us can like New York and Dallas. Dallas 38 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: is three and a half point favorites. That feels right, 39 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: thirty eight and a half plus one sixty four for 40 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: the Giants on the money line. And then you got 41 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Green Bay at home three and a half point favorites 42 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: after they beat the party list forty nine ers sad 43 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: tier for me. Miami coming off a big win against 44 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: the Patriots to forty seven and a half is that 45 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: number for the nine game plus one fifty five? So 46 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: I know we're saving the details for tomorrow, But first 47 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: take first glance any of these three games. Any thoughts 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: on any of the three in terms of early. 49 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: Value, give you some my quick three thoughts. So the 50 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: Lions game, Joe, have you ever met me and a 51 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: Lions game at home where I didn't like the over? 52 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: So no, I have not over. 53 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: And have you ever met me on a Lions game 54 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: where I didn't think they would cover ten twenty forty points? No? 55 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: They always cover. 56 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: Look, I think this is a good bet to make. 57 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: On the offenses, right, we've seen the Bears offense kind 58 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 2: of improve. Callab Wims, I think looked really good last 59 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: week in a much tougher matchup. I think defensively, so 60 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: I like the over in this game. That's what happens 61 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: when Lions playing home, the games go over, so this 62 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: is the fun game of the slate. Unfortunately, the next 63 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: game is not gonna be fun. So I'm just taking 64 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: the under. I want no part of this Cooper rush 65 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito. Do we see Drew Locke? I don't know, 66 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: because Tommy DeVito the experiment was over before it seemingly 67 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: started before, before the chicken cutlets were even out, Tommy 68 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: DeVito looked like he was already gonna get bench for 69 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: Drew Locke. So under for me in this disaster abysmal 70 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: of a game. And then Dolphins Packers. I'm just gonna 71 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: fade the Dolphins outdoors in Green Bay on the road. Yes, 72 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: they beat up on the Patriots, but sell the Rams 73 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: beat on the Patriots too, and then what happened they 74 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: played a legitimate contender, Well wasn't great, So I'm good. 75 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: Probably fade the fade the Dolphins on the road. 76 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: All right, Chiefs are at home. They're twelve and a 77 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: half a thirteen and a half point fair, so I say 78 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: it twelve's I'd even give the credit. This one's the 79 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: Amazon Prime three o'clock Black Friday Game, thirteen and a 80 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: half point favorites for Kansas City. You were right, the 81 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: city did not against Carolina. You were one hundred on 82 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: that one dog maybe forty two and a half. Andrew 83 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: Erickson his back loved life as Carolina Panthers are ready 84 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: to go Vegas, who did upset them late in the 85 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: year last year, plus five hundred. Now Gardner Mitch is 86 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: gonna be out for the rest of the year, So 87 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get Desmond Ridder unless Daniel Jones gets 88 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: signed in the next twenty four hours. I don't know, 89 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: But what do you think about this one? Erickson? Again? 90 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: Two big of a number. I think we probably both agree. 91 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: It's pretty big. But the thing is the Chiefs are 92 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: at home right, so they're ever gonna get up for 93 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: a home crow. I mean, doesn't Ridders so bad every 94 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: time he plays? I just feel like they're gonna turn 95 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: the ball over. I feel like they have a better 96 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: chit of just throwing an interception. 97 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: Or there is that energy as the kids like to say, 98 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: do the internet like the vie. 99 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: Maybe he came in and the game after Minch got 100 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: hurt and immediately turned the ball over. 101 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: He did second player. 102 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: I mean, if I had if you mean, if you 103 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: told me to pick a side. I'm not taking the Raiders, 104 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: so I guess I'm gonna lay almost two touchdowns of 105 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. But they're at home, so it doesn' make 106 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 2: you it feel a little bit better. And you know, 107 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: considering the letdowns they've had in the last couple of weeks, 108 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: almost losing Carolina, losing a Buffalo, I think, hey, get 109 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: right spot against a division opponent. Let's beat out out 110 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: on the Raiders. Obviously, remember what happened last year, and 111 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: the Raiders obviously covered earlier this season with the backup 112 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: quarterback thing. I just yeah, I think the Chiefs put 113 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: it pounding. 114 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: On Pittsburgh Cincinnati. Cincinnati two and a half point favorites. 115 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: They've got a long time here the Pittsburgh Steelers. In 116 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: terms of recovery from the Snow, forty seven is the 117 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: number for this one plus one twenty two. Now, Russell 118 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: Wilson some issues there. I think in that last game 119 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: you saw justin fields. Maybe was the weather well, or 120 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's the red zone inefficient see that we've seen 121 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: from Russell Wilson coming home to roost. Cincinnati is a 122 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: team that just can't get out of their own way. 123 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: So any early value on this one. 124 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: Why are the Cincinnati Bengals' favorites? 125 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: No, see, I guess like yeah, I mean it. 126 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: Makes the Steelers a better bet because now you get 127 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: Tomlin as a road underdog, which you always want to 128 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: bet at Mike Thomlins. So give me the Steelers again. 129 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: This is the same thing we do with the Jets, right, 130 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 2: Why are their favorites? 131 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: Why are their favorites because their at home? That's it. 132 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: I don't care. 133 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: Give it all easy booking, that's that's that's what Los 134 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: Angeles seven and three now the Chargers, and they are 135 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: minus one and a half yere on the road against Atlanta. 136 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: Forty seven is the number for this one, plus one 137 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: oh five for the Falcons at home on the money line. 138 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: You know, the Chargers have really we'll see what they do, 139 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: you know, Monday night. But regardless, I think the Chargers 140 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: have established themselves as for a change, a more comfortable wager. 141 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: Uh and on the road. The Chargers are not a 142 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: team that we always used to in the past. But 143 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: Harball has this team focused, He has this team tougher, 144 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: fighting the same old Chargers seem like a thing in 145 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: the past. And the Falcons another team that just can't 146 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: get out of their own way. So I'm on the 147 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: Charger side of this one, how about you? Even though 148 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: Falcons are coming off of buye, I still like the 149 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: Chargers here. 150 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: I might be staying away from this. I don't love 151 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: the optics of the Chargers. So you have a team 152 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: that's playing on a short week going East Coast, playing 153 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: a team off a bye week that also plays better 154 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: at home. You're right, So like there's a lot of 155 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: circumstances that definitely play into the falcons favor here, which 156 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: is kind of why I'm somewhat concerned about the Chargers. 157 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to think of trying to bet 158 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: this game now where you get the best. I mean, 159 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: the Chargers Ravens think is going to probably go down 160 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: to the wire, So I'm not sure that whatever happens 161 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: in that game, aside from a quarterback injury, is going 162 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: to really affect these lines. If anything, the Chargers, I 163 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: think you're going to probably play well offensively, so maybe 164 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: you see more money come in on the Chargers. So 165 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: I think this is a wait and see. I think 166 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: I still like the Falcons with the points at home. 167 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: Next team that I have a hard time gauging at 168 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: this point too. The Houston Texans, they filled the seven 169 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: to five they they got handed at l at home 170 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: at Tennessee Titans Jacksonville, though they are no good so regardless, 171 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: Houston is six point favorites on the road in Jacksonville. 172 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: Forty three is the number plus two ten on the 173 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: Jacksonville side. You know, it's kind of shocking that Doug 174 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: Peterson still has a job here, but I kind of 175 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: get it. I guess they're just riding out the season 176 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: here and then just going to clean house in one 177 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: fil swoop. Fine, we're late in the year, doesn't matter, 178 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: but it does beg the question here of like, is 179 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans organization going to figure this out? Because 180 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: they have been inconsistent all year long, and you know, 181 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: you lose games to the Jets, it was a winnable game. 182 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: You lose games to the Tennessee Titans, especially at home. 183 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: Those are winnable games, and the Titans play good defense. 184 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, it just feels like all 185 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: the good vibes from last year with the Texans, all 186 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, expectations have been a little weighty for 187 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: them this year, and they have not answered the bell 188 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: every time. 189 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: I think that the matchup here just is way different 190 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: than the Titan matchup. The Titans can stop the run, right, 191 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: That's one of their best attributes on defense. The Jaguars 192 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: can't stop anything on defense. So I get that the 193 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: Texans offense has struggled, But when they've been at their 194 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: highest functioning, it's when they've been able to give the 195 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: ball to Joe Mixon twenty twenty five times a game. 196 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: And I mean it seems weird, but kind of keep C. J. 197 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: Stroud away from the ball like that's kind of when 198 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: their offense has been better. Just because you know, Stroud 199 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: has definitely regressed since his rookie season. I can't give 200 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: you an answer of exactly why that's happening. He's just 201 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: he's just not playing nearly as well. He's not seeing 202 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: the field near he's playing the defensive line. He's had some 203 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 2: issues in pass protection, so maybe he's not trusting things 204 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: as much upfront. But yeah, for me, I'm still gonna 205 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 2: be here on the Texans. I mean, what is the 206 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: Jaguars shown us at any point this year? We do 207 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: even know Trevor Lawrence is playing like apparently he's supposed 208 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: to come back from the shoulder injury. But if this 209 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: is mac Jones, well this line is gonna move, probably 210 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 2: in favor of the Texans, so. 211 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: It would have moved to in your opinion, Do you 212 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: think it gets all the way up to seven? 213 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: Seven? 214 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: Probably? Yeah? Okay, all right? Indianapolis and New England. New 215 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: England got crouds by the Miami Dolphins. That's no surprise 216 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: to Andrew or myself. They are two and a half 217 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: point underdogs at home against the Indianapolis Colts coming off 218 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: a loss of their own. Forty two and a half 219 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: is the number for this one, the consensus betting Pro's line, 220 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: and then plus one twenty four of the New one Patriots. 221 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Well the value here is just close your eyes and 222 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: bet the Patriots at home as underdogs. But I don't 223 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with it. So this game is a hard 224 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: stay away from me this week. I just don't have 225 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: a feeling. If anything, I'm leaning towards the Colts right now. 226 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: But Andrew, what do you make out of this one? 227 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's tough because I'm going to go into 228 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: this game. I'm gonna be going to the Patriots Colts game, 229 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: So I will have I'm gonna have to have wager 230 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 2: on of course to really take in the scenery of 231 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: Gillette Stadium. So but like you said, I'm kind of 232 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: torn on where I want to approach this game. 233 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: Jake may rushing you on actually mean the thing that. 234 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: You have to be placing some type of wager either 235 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: on points overall. I can't be the one that when 236 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: there are points, the one that's in the crowd like 237 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: not cheering because I bet the under on the game 238 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: that it's decided to attend. That's a horrible that's a 239 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: horrible way to enjoy a Sunday football game that you're attending. 240 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: So maybe leaning towards the over. I know the Patriots 241 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: games have been going over right because their defense is 242 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: so bad. Drawd Mayo, right, defensive guy supposed to come 243 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: in and fix the defense. I mean, if Drake may 244 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: hadn't been playing well at least before that this past game, 245 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: I mean, the let's fire drowd Mayo already would be 246 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: even louder like it's it's. 247 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: The defense down that That's been the one thing you 248 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: hang your hat on for years of the Patriots, even 249 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: the bad years. Well, at least the defense again, that's 250 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: not the case right now. And I don't know if 251 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: rowd Mayo is gonna be a one and done coach. 252 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if Robert Craft is that kind of owner. 253 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: But all I can say is, you know, Mike Vrabel 254 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: is still a free agent, and you know that is 255 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: a tough sell there. I don't think it would be 256 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: fair for drowd Mayo to get one and done. But 257 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: the defense has played very poorly this year, and that's 258 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: and again, that's what you're supposed to be good at 259 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: and doing and motivating and scheming, and when that doesn't 260 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: work out, it's definitely tough. It's definitely a tough look there. 261 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: Arizona Minnesota. Minnesota comes away with an overtime victory. They're 262 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: at home, four point favorites over the Arizona Cardinals. I 263 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: can't believe how miserable that game was for between the 264 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals and the Seahawks aps. I mean, appall thirteen to 265 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: six within the fourth quarter, and I'm looking around, going, 266 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: you gotta be kid, this better explode like the Cowboys 267 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: washing the Commander's game did. Because that was fun, that 268 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: was entertaining. And I went out for a walk and 269 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: I came back, and I saw the last like ten 270 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: minutes of that game and it was fantastic. Arizona disappointing 271 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: off the by and you know what, yeah, Minnesota four? 272 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 273 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I've had it with the Cardinals here forty 274 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: six and a half. I knew they were paper tigers. 275 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: I knew it. Ericson, I knew it. Plus one seventy. 276 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: I know those Indivision games. Teams are built to play 277 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: in their division. We've been having this conversation lately, but 278 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm going straight Vikings here. Let's go 279 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: minus four. Okay, I think Minnesota handles their business here. 280 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: What do you think I'm going to go back to 281 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: the Birds. I was on them last week and it 282 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: was super painful. But I'm not gonna let my motions 283 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: get in the way because I still think the. 284 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: Emotions are in the way. No. I watched Kyler Murray 285 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: make more bad decisions in that game than I. It 286 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: was like Tommy DeVito playing quarterback. At times, I'm watching 287 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: him float balls over trying to float balls and guy 288 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: guys more than ones and they're getting pick they're getting 289 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: knocked down' Like what are you doing? Throw the ball away? 290 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: Take a sack. What's happening here? Oh, just misery just 291 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: made the Seattle Seahaks with like the eighty five Bears 292 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: for a couple of moments there. 293 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: I mean, that's just what Kyler Murray does. He gives 294 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: and take this away your points and your spreads and 295 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: your picks, because this is how he plays. I mean 296 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: sometimes he just he's super inconsistent. And now that we're 297 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: going to get probably an overreaction because and now the 298 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: Cardinals are trash team, kind of like what you're saying 299 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: right now, Paper Tiger. They can't do anything gag out 300 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: of the wrong way. Well, playing in the Minnesota Vikings, 301 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: who have basically gone down to the wire in the 302 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: last three games they have played again three straight row games. 303 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: Defense is good and if the if the Seahawks defense 304 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: has given you problems, then the Minnesota defense in that 305 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: building is gonna give you problems. 306 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 2: I just I just think that we always have to 307 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: take divisional games and what happens in them and not 308 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: overreact to what happens in them, because the divisional games. 309 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: Are crazy, right, I will give you that. 310 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: They're crazy games, just like again and Cowboys, how that. 311 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: Game about Thursday night. How about the Cleveland Browns and 312 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers? 313 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, So, I mean I still like the Cardinals 314 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: a lot. Heading into the season, they were in first 315 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: place in the NFC West. Obviously not the case anymore, 316 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: but they still have a chance at the division. It's 317 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 2: not over yet for them. They still get to play 318 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 2: the Seahawks, I believe, another time this season. So it's 319 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: not over for them. I think they'll get right the 320 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: ship here. Give me the Cardinals. What is it? Three 321 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: and a half plus three and a half? Is it 322 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: moved for Yeah? Maybe it is now because people are people. 323 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: Greaving about it. Yeah, that's why they're like they're like 324 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: they look up this morning, go what are we thinking? 325 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: Did you see how bad he played? Now you got 326 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: this on a defense that he's going on the road. 327 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: I mean, does anybody want to win the NFC West? Anybody? 328 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: God and known. The misery of that is you're watching 329 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: that forty nine. There were moments where you're like they're 330 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: driving the ball down the field like this is and 331 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: then the fumbles or the the the tipped pass and 332 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: you're just like like everything could go wrong. 333 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: Dad immediately knew it was over when they panned to 334 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: Brandon Allen. His hand he has a frigging splint on it, 335 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: which nobody knew about. Is not on the injury report. 336 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: Whatso are He's playing with a thumb like he's playing 337 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 2: with a broken thumb and nobody told us anything about this. 338 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan continues to look at the injury report as 339 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: a legitimate joke, and uh yeah, forty nineers are probably Gonnassis. 340 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: You're a joke, shait Ahan. I'm I am salty this morning. 341 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: I am salty. Tennessee is salty too. They're going off 342 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: a big win there, they're feeling it, but they're still 343 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: five and a half point underdogs against the Washington Commanders. 344 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: Who look the Commanders have been found out a little 345 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: bit recently forty three and a half. They become a 346 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: little predictable, and teams are picking up on one they 347 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: want to do. So Washington's gonna have to make some 348 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: adjustments here if they want to stay in the playoff hunt. 349 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: Plus two twenty five on the Sennsee Titans. I'll tell 350 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: you right now, the values on the Titans of the 351 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: money line, Like that's where the value is in this game, 352 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: because it's not out of their possibility that they can 353 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: hold the Washington Commanders within a few points here and 354 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: if they just get a ball to bounce their way, 355 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: they come out with yet another win. 356 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, this one is tough. We are the kids are 357 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: calling it the uh the Cliff cliff. 358 00:14:55,160 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: Basically this is it's the Cliff of Kingsbury. 359 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: Yes that the Commanders have had Kingsbury cliff. 360 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: However you want to call it kings like that one. 361 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: Let's go with the Kingsbury Cliff. I like that one. 362 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's becoming real right now because the Commanders 363 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: have struggled over the last couple of weeks. You can 364 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: tie it to the rib injury that Jade and Daniels had, 365 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: but they just have not been the same offense. And 366 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: even though they had that last minute play against the 367 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys and then they missed the extra point, I mean, 368 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: they should have lost that game anyway, right, even if 369 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: they make that extra point like they had. No, they 370 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: shouldn't have been toying around with the Dallas Cowboys, the 371 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: worst run defense in the NFL that couldn't run the 372 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: ball effectively. Brian Robinson dealing with another injury. Austin Eckler 373 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: banged up. Could they be down to Jerry Mupy Nichols 374 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: And now you're facing the Tennessee Titans, who just talked 375 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: about one of the best run defenses in the NFL. 376 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: That's how you neutralize the Commander's offense is you stop 377 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: the run. And everyone knows exactly where Terry mcloins run 378 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: all his routes. He doesn't leave with the left side 379 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: of the field because of Cliff Kingsbury. So they're really 380 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: easy to game plan for. So I mean, I like, 381 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: I don't think there's gonna a lot of points in 382 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: this game per se. Maybe this is turnovers, but yeah, 383 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to back the Commanders, and 384 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: they need to get to their bye week to try 385 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: to fix something because right now they are a reeling 386 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: team that's definitely going in the wrong direction. 387 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: Speaking of reeling teams going in the wrong direction, I 388 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: give you the Jets at home three and eight, one 389 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: and a half point underdogs. Forty two and a half 390 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: is the number, plus one will five for the Jets 391 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: on the money line against the Seattle Seahawks, looking to 392 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: make it three straight. Let's go look, Seattle, this is 393 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: your moment here. Okay, this is your spot. You go 394 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: out there, you handle your business against the Jets. You 395 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: take all this momentum you've gained, you've went on the 396 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: you're the road Warriors who went out there and you 397 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: beat San Francisco, then you have beat Arizona. You've handled 398 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: your division. Don't drop this out of conference game. Don't 399 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: do it. And by the way, for Gino Smith to 400 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: just put the dagger in the heart of the Jets season, 401 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything better like this is 402 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: this would make me want to watch a full Jets game. Really, 403 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: I can say, and that is that is hard for 404 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: me to say, but this actually makes me want to 405 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: watch it. Give me the points with Seattle, I'll take 406 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: that one and a half. Let's go. 407 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I'm with you. Why would I bet 408 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: on the Jets. I mean, I think the Marcus finally 409 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: reach a point where like they've given up again. The 410 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: Jets have been a very public team this year where 411 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: the sportsoka Jets a favorite, that's your favorite, and then 412 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: they just kept losing and it's like, okay, we don't 413 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 2: stop making the Jets favorites. So they finally fixed it, 414 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: made Seattle Road favorites even by one and a half. 415 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 2: I mean when I did the projections for this, it's 416 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: closer to Seattle minus four. Right, I don't think this 417 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: is going to be a one and a half point game. 418 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 2: When he comes down to it is Aaron Rodgers, even 419 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: the starting quarterback. What's going on here? Is it going 420 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: to be tyrod Taylor? Like, we don't really know. There's 421 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 2: so much I mean out of the bye week. I 422 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: think there might be some optimism about the Jets maybe 423 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: later in the week, and you see this line move 424 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: into the favor of the Jets because the public just 425 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: can't resist themselves. So bet it now, bet bet it later. 426 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: Go go Hawks, baby. 427 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, minus one and a half Seattle, easy, let's go. 428 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: You know, you know you have tears and professional wrestling, 429 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: like you have your champions and then you have your 430 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: inner comment heal champions. I think we said the same 431 00:17:59,600 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: thing with him. 432 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 433 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: I think it would be like a mid mid range 434 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: MVP because I think it's Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield's done 435 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: a tremendous job of just holding this team together in Tampa. 436 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: They're going to Carolina. Caroline has become a dangerous little 437 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: team here in the last couple of weeks they are 438 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: six point favorites, though on the road against the Panthers. 439 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: Forty six and a half is the number plus two 440 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: twenty for the Carolina Panthers money line. Look, they should 441 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: defeat the Carolina Panthers in theory. But to your point, Andrew, 442 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: these individual games sometimes get wacky and weird and tight. 443 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: So what do you see in this one that we 444 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: should pay attention to in terms of any early. 445 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: Value Under forty six points for a road game for 446 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers against the Panthers, I don't. I don't like that. Again, 447 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: going back to divisional matchups, they're much tighter than we 448 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: always like to project. And I believe this game played 449 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 2: out last year. I think it was Week eighteen. There 450 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: was barely any score, and I think it was the 451 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: final score was like nine to nothing. So I think 452 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: that you're gonna see the Panthers play a little bit tighter. 453 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: I mean, the Panthers are. They're feeling good right now. 454 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: I mean that must just be the Chiefs. So yeah, 455 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: they're a team that's playing with a lot more confidence. 456 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: They're not the same doormat basically that people were just 457 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: running over and truck sticking every single week. That's not 458 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: the case here, so I think that they're playing some 459 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: inspired football. Obviously, you talked about Baker Mayfield another team 460 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: that's feeling really good again. They broke the losing streak 461 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: last week, but still on the road in a division game. 462 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit tighter, so I like 463 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: the under it at forty six points. 464 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: Next one on the slate, the Rams coming off a 465 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: short week going to New Orleans coming off of their bye. 466 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints are two and a half point 467 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: underdogs at home. Forty seven is the total plus one 468 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: fifteen for the Saints on the money line. Give me 469 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: the Saints on the money line, ericson, let's go. I'm 470 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: feeling the vibes. I'm feeling the vibes, like I think 471 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: that's just where I'm at here with I keep all 472 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: year just getting the Saints wrong. So I'm going to 473 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: fight my instincts of saying, well, the better coach, a 474 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: better quarterback, blah blah blah. Is that just doesn't seem 475 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: to matter against these New New Orleans Saints. 476 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, I think matters when it comes to the Rams, though, 477 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: I think that they have the advantages when it comes 478 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: to the coach, when it comes to the quarterback. 479 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: They got smoked last yeah, because. 480 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: And they were and they were projected to lose. They 481 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: were the underdogs. They don't play well as underdogs, and 482 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: they win his favorites, just like they beat up on 483 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: the Patriots a bad team. Do you think the Saints 484 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: are a good team? Yes? 485 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: Or no? I think they're a better team than the Patriots. 486 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: Okay, mean, you know, answer the question, are they a 487 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: bad team or a good team? Are they in a 488 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: tier of bad teams and the good teams? Because we 489 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 2: know where. 490 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: They were bad teams. They have an under five hundred record, 491 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: But they play much better defense than the Patriots too, 492 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: and that matters at home. 493 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: I just I mean, I still don't love their defense. 494 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm taking I mean, I'm just watching what Sakuon Barkley 495 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: did and Alvin Kamara is coming off a bye, and 496 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: I could Seekmara having the same kind of game. 497 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, we'll see, I mean, we'll say, I mean. 498 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. H So you're on the 499 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: rams side of this game? Is that safe to say? 500 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: All right, here's the one that everybody wants to see. 501 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, four to twenty five Easter Baltimore Ravens hosting 502 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. There we go, well, the Ravens three 503 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: point favors at home fifty and a half is the 504 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: total plus one thirty for the Eagles on the money line. 505 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: So Saquon and the Eagles defense coming into Baltimore again, 506 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: the value to me is just going straight for the 507 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: upset of the Eagles. That's where I want to go. 508 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: Where do you want to go? 509 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: I think that makes sense because I think that when 510 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: you're looking at who is the more complete team, it's Eagles, right, 511 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: they have a good defense and a good offense. The 512 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: Ravens have a good offense and they don't have a 513 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: good defense. And you can make the argument, yeah, they 514 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 2: have a good run defense, but I think that's more 515 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: systematically where the teams don't try to run on the 516 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: Ravens because they know they can just throw on the Ravens. Right, 517 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: So I think that, Yeah, I agree with you. Again, 518 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: you're getting the Ravens's favorites because they're playing at home. 519 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: But we tend to find that home field avanage is 520 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: a little bit overrated. I mean, if this is a 521 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: neutral field, I'm sure, I'm pret sure the Eagles would 522 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 2: be favor they have better record, so I think that 523 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: I would probably lean towards the Eagles here as well. 524 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: On the money line. As for the total, take the 525 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: under man the two teams that want to run the football, Like, 526 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: what does that mean? Like you're going to see more 527 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: long drives Again, Obviously it can break open if it's 528 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: a Saquon Barkley explosion run Derrick Henry explosion run, but 529 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: that just happened with Barkley. He just did all those 530 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: explosive things. And Derrick Henry that's more of his thing 531 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: that he does in the second half of the game. 532 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: So I think I'd probably lean towards the under just 533 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: because it's two teams that don't necessarily throw the ball 534 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: a ton. They don't want to be pass first, they 535 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: want to run the ball first. I think that leans 536 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: to more under. So I think the under fifteen and 537 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: a half is kind of a sharp play. 538 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football Good one Buffalo nine and two taking 539 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: on the San Francisco forty nine ers whatever's left of them. 540 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: Buffalo six and a half point favorites in this one. 541 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: Forty six is the total plus two thirty on the 542 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: money line for the forty nine ers? Andrew? Is this 543 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: the beginning of the comeback for the fraudy nine ers 544 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: or is this the end of days for Kyle Shanahan 545 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: and this group in twenty twenty four. 546 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: Look, it's been over since the start of the season. 547 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 2: And I was I was first a bat to like 548 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: bury the forty nine ers, and I was too aggressive 549 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: because I remember betting on the Jets in Week one. 550 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: It was like goh got buried the. 551 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: Forty the ball and I was so I mean, it 552 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: was so anti Jets in the beginning of week one. 553 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: How much that I pound the table four hours are 554 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: going to wipe the floor with them? It's not even 555 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: closer a personnel standpoint, however, I really thought, you know, 556 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: had Purty played, I saw a lot of vulnerabilities in 557 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: that agreement Packers squad, and I think he was on 558 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: full display moments in that game too, where you know, 559 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: but their season was on the line and they did 560 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: not respond like I think this team has finally just 561 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: had it, and you know, and I was fading them too. 562 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: So is this it? This is the death Kniel? This 563 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: is it? 564 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: It's over, I mean I think so. I mean, look, 565 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: we were fading the four Naars from the very beginning 566 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: because of two things. Number One, they had just lost 567 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and it's just like the super Bowl hangover, 568 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: like this happens every single year. Just fame the team. 569 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: And then the second thing that would point out really 570 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: early on was they were the healthiest team last year. 571 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: It's not a coincidence that they've been so injured the 572 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: entire season and now it's gone to the quarterback room. 573 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: So these are the teams you need to remember and 574 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: fade when we're talking about who is healthy's team in 575 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, fade that in twenty twenty five because 576 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: it's not going to be the same type of same 577 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: type of injury luck. So we don't know Ifck means 578 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: Brock Perdy going to play like based on these lines, 579 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure the books even really know whether 580 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: he's playing, because if it's Brandon Allen, there's no way 581 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 2: this is just Buffalo minus six and a half at home. 582 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 2: This has to be a bigger number. I Mean, the Packers 583 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: were fevered by touchdown right when Brandon Allen was the starter, 584 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: So this is gonna jump till seven, seven and a 585 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: half eight. I mean, I'm just gonna take the bills 586 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: right now and just hope, hey, I get a better 587 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 2: number if Rock Perdy doesn't play. That's kind of how 588 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm leaning. I mean, can we believe anything that Shanahan 589 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: says about the injury report? 590 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: Well? 591 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like he'll be okay. 592 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: No, Well, clearly we've heard that. That's not something we 593 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: can trust at all. All right, last one here, Monday 594 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: Night football. The Denver Broncos seven and five, certainly playoff 595 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: team at this point, take on the Cleveland Browns. This 596 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: one's in Denver, though, therefore Cleveland is five and a 597 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: half point underdogs, as they should be. Forty one is 598 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: the number plus two hundred for Cleveland. This line feels 599 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: pretty good to me. I don't see any early value. 600 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: But do you what did you say? 601 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: It's that? 602 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: Is that four and a half, five and a half 603 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: right now, five and a half an alf I would 604 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: still take Denver. I bet them up to Denver minus 605 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: six and a half, Denver minus seven. Again, it was 606 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 2: a division game, Jamie. That was the Brown super Bowl 607 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: against the Steelers. At they won. They won, They're gonna 608 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: get it's not gonna be good going on the jamis 609 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: Winston against the number one defense Like this is gonna 610 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: be a disaster. So yeah, I yes, Monday Night Football 611 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: give you the Denver Broncos, Denver Broncos. 612 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: All right, there you have everybody. That's a quick look 613 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: around the week thirteen slate. We'll be breaking down the 614 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Slate and the Black Friday Special are also coming 615 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: at you this week, so make sure you stay tuned 616 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: for all that. 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