WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Jonathan Andic 0:00:46.550 --> 0:00:51.960 School of Humans. Helen Gone Murder Line actively investigates cold 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.360 case murders in an effort to raise public awareness, invite 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.780 witnesses to come forward, and present evidence that could potentially 0:00:58.820 --> 0:01:02.920 be further investigated by law enforcement. While we value insights 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.140 from family and community members, their statements should not be 0:01:06.180 --> 0:01:09.920 considered evidence and point to the challenges of verifying facts 0:01:10.020 --> 0:01:14.020 inherent in cold cases. We remind listeners that everyone is 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.150 presumed innocent until proven. 0:01:15.850 --> 0:01:17.150 Guilty in a court of law. 0:01:17.990 --> 0:01:20.970 Nothing in the podcast is intended to state or imply 0:01:21.030 --> 0:01:23.610 that anyone who has not been convicted of a crime 0:01:24.170 --> 0:01:25.550 is guilty of any wrongdoing. 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.860 Two independent hikers in Montessorat, Spain, were making their way 0:01:37.980 --> 0:01:41.560 along a steep, narrow path known as the Camí de 0:01:41.620 --> 0:01:45.480 las Faixaitas, high up near the San Nitro del Cobato 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.340 in the Montessorat mountain range near a monastery in Barcelona. 0:01:50.780 --> 0:01:53.720 It was a crisp, cool afternoon, a great day for 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.820 a hike, but their peace was broken when they came 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:57.780 around a bend. 0:01:57.900 --> 0:01:58.940 And heard a scream. 0:02:00.250 --> 0:02:03.530 The hikers later testified that they found a 43-year-old man 0:02:03.690 --> 0:02:07.870 named Jonathan Andik in a state of absolute frantic hysteria. 0:02:08.970 --> 0:02:14.080 Jonathan was the son of 71-year-old Isak Andik, the multi-billionaire 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.160 founder of the Mango clothing store, who over the years 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.020 had created one of the biggest financial fashion empires in Europe. 0:02:22.180 --> 0:02:27.700 Jonathan was hyperventilating, weeping uncontrollably and totally panicked. He was 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.440 holding his cell phone in his hand, on the phone 0:02:30.460 --> 0:02:33.880 with emergency services, telling them that his dad had fallen 0:02:33.920 --> 0:02:34.220 down a. 0:02:34.220 --> 0:02:36.280 Ravine and that he couldn't see him. 0:02:56.750 --> 0:02:59.370 Jonathan kept repeating that he had been out on a 0:02:59.410 --> 0:03:02.270 hike with his father, walking a few feet ahead of 0:03:02.330 --> 0:03:05.130 him when he heard the sound of rolling stones or 0:03:05.170 --> 0:03:08.690 a minor landslide behind him, turned around, and. 0:03:08.690 --> 0:03:10.790 Saw that his father was completely gone. 0:03:12.230 --> 0:03:16.230 Jonathan was panicking, so one of the hikers literally snatched 0:03:16.290 --> 0:03:19.460 his cell phone from Jonathan's hand, took over the call, 0:03:19.580 --> 0:03:22.980 and used his native knowledge of the Montessorat terrain to 0:03:23.020 --> 0:03:27.600 relay their exact GPS coordinates to the dispatchers, As they 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:31.740 waited for help to arrive, Jonathan became so overwhelmed that 0:03:31.820 --> 0:03:34.500 he made a desperate move to scramble over the edge 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.260 of the raw precipice, attempting to climb down the sheer. 0:03:38.100 --> 0:03:39.680 Vertical drop to find his father. 0:03:40.660 --> 0:03:43.760 While the emergency responders were on the phone with Jonathan, 0:03:44.300 --> 0:03:47.590 the two hikers had to physically tackle and pin Jonathan 0:03:47.630 --> 0:03:51.250 to the ground up on the narrow trail, physically restraining 0:03:51.290 --> 0:03:56.490 him to prevent another fatal plunge. Eventually, the responders arrived, 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.380 and one hiker stayed behind at the edge of the cliff, 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:03.300 while the other one guided a broken-down Jonathan on a 0:04:03.380 --> 0:04:06.930 grueling 15-minute walk down the trail to the parking lot. 0:04:08.230 --> 0:04:11.710 Down in the ravine, rescuers found what Jonathan already knew 0:04:11.770 --> 0:04:15.510 was there. Lying at the bottom of about 300 feet 0:04:15.590 --> 0:04:20.340 was the body of his father, Isak Andik, Catalonia's richest man. 0:04:21.910 --> 0:04:25.010 What started as an accidental slip on a rocky mountain 0:04:25.450 --> 0:04:29.750 has transformed into a full-blown homicide investigation that has completely 0:04:29.910 --> 0:04:34.650 upended the ultra-wealthy Catalan bourgeoisie. At the center of this 0:04:34.710 --> 0:04:38.120 twisted web is a bitter family feud and a secretive, 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:43.240 unlicensed therapist whose signature technique involved taking wealthy clients to 0:04:43.260 --> 0:04:47.060 the very edge of physical cliffs to confront their emotional demons. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:49.300 I'm Katherine Townsend. 0:04:49.940 --> 0:04:52.900 Over the past eight years of making Helen gone, I've 0:04:52.940 --> 0:04:55.320 learned that there is no such thing as a small 0:04:55.380 --> 0:04:59.120 town where murder never happens. I have received hundreds of 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.000 messages from people all around the country asking for help 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:06.800 with unsolved deaths that have completely shattered their families and communities. 0:05:07.580 --> 0:05:09.260 If you have a case you want me and my 0:05:09.300 --> 0:05:11.640 team to look into, you can reach out to us 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:21.060 at our Helen Gone Murder Line at 678-744-6145. That's 678-744-6145. 0:05:21.900 --> 0:05:26.000 Or you can send us a message on Instagram at hellandgonepod. 0:05:26.980 --> 0:05:29.520 This is Hell and Gone, Murder Line. 0:05:52.190 --> 0:05:57.230 Two days later, on December. 0:05:55.970 --> 0:06:19.820 16th, Jonathan sat down with the regional police force, the 0:06:19.900 --> 0:06:23.500 Mossos de Escuadra, to repeat the exact story he told 0:06:23.620 --> 0:06:28.160 on the mountain. At first, Jonathan insisted the entire fall 0:06:28.260 --> 0:06:31.220 happen out of his line of sight. Because of his 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:35.320 obvious emotional devastation and the fact that the hikers had 0:06:35.380 --> 0:06:39.650 verified his shock on the scene, at first, local authorities 0:06:39.750 --> 0:06:41.030 treated it exactly as. 0:06:40.990 --> 0:06:43.910 It looked, like a tragic alpine accident. 0:06:44.710 --> 0:06:48.160 The court quickly stepped in and provisionally closed the case. 0:06:48.860 --> 0:06:51.720 But behind the scenes, police were looking at parts of 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:56.060 Jonathan's story and finding evidence that they believed contradicted his 0:06:56.100 --> 0:07:01.330 official version. According to court testimony, while Jonathan first said 0:07:01.490 --> 0:07:04.050 that he was several meters ahead when his dad fell, 0:07:04.630 --> 0:07:07.410 in another statement, he said that he was walking closer 0:07:07.510 --> 0:07:11.880 to Isak and saw his father fall. Also, Jonathan had 0:07:11.940 --> 0:07:14.880 told police at first that his dad stopped to take 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:19.040 photos with his phone. But later, forensic data showed that 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.920 Esau only accessed his phone once at the very beginning 0:07:22.980 --> 0:07:27.340 of the hike. And Esau's autopsy also showed something that 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.780 bothered investigators. The fact that there were no breaking wounds 0:07:30.970 --> 0:07:33.930 on Esau's hands, which they would have expected to see 0:07:34.170 --> 0:07:38.040 if he reflexively threw his arms out to break his fall. Instead, 0:07:38.540 --> 0:07:42.540 investigators believed that he fell over the cliff feet first, quote, 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:47.790 as if launched down a slide, end quote. Mountain police 0:07:47.950 --> 0:07:51.110 also found a single footprint, a skid mark, at the 0:07:51.150 --> 0:07:51.750 cliff's edge. 0:07:52.730 --> 0:07:54.010 And the Times reported. 0:07:54.410 --> 0:07:58.690 that when specialist mountain officers reconstructed the fall, they came 0:07:58.730 --> 0:08:01.710 to the conclusion that a single footprint they saw had 0:08:01.750 --> 0:08:06.030 been forced. They figured that out because it required repeated 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.700 deliberate pressure against the ground to make that print, which 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.020 led them to believe that. 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.220 The footprint had been staged to simulate an accident. 0:08:15.660 --> 0:08:17.980 I need to back up here because to understand why 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:22.280 the police eventually stopped believing the story that Jonathan told 0:08:22.300 --> 0:08:25.900 the hikers and police, you have to understand the tension 0:08:26.220 --> 0:08:29.340 that had been building in this family history for years. 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:35.430 Isak Andik was born on October 1st, 1953, into a 0:08:35.570 --> 0:08:39.950 Sephardic Jewish family in Istanbul, Turkey. He immigrated to Barcelona 0:08:39.990 --> 0:08:42.190 in 1969. In the 70s, he married his first wife, 0:08:44.260 --> 0:08:48.380 And together they had three children, Jonathan in 1981, Judith 0:08:48.420 --> 0:08:52.920 three years later, and Sarah in 1997. Isak and his 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.700 first wife divorced in the 90s. Isak had built the 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:02.560 multi-billion dollar mango fashion empire alongside his older brother, Naman Andik. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.500 They built this huge company from the ground up themselves 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.700 and started with nothing. In the early days, Isaac and 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.920 his brother were hustling out of small apartments, selling their 0:09:13.980 --> 0:09:20.070 hand-embroidered blouses at local markets in Madrid and Barcelona. In 1984, 0:09:20.070 --> 0:09:23.970 they opened their very first storefront in Barcelona. Isaac was 0:09:24.010 --> 0:09:27.010 the one who often appeared in the Spanish press. He 0:09:27.050 --> 0:09:29.650 was often mentioned along with the founder of Zara, the 0:09:29.770 --> 0:09:33.760 other massive Spanish retailer. It was also Isaac who got 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:38.530 Penelope Cruz and Kate Moss to become faces of Mango. Meanwhile, 0:09:38.970 --> 0:09:42.740 Nauman was the quiet logistical genius who worked behind the 0:09:42.780 --> 0:09:46.120 scenes to build a supply chain that allowed Mango to 0:09:46.220 --> 0:09:52.810 scale to over 2,700 stores internationally. The brothers remained incredibly 0:09:52.850 --> 0:09:56.970 close until the very end. And to this day, Nauman 0:09:57.110 --> 0:10:01.340 publicly stands by his nephew, Jonathan, firmly maintaining his innocence. 0:10:02.670 --> 0:10:06.160 The problems with the family seemed to start in around 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.360 2012 when Isak decided to step back from the business. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:13.760 He handed executive control of Mango over to his son, Jonathan. 0:10:14.540 --> 0:10:17.720 Jonathan was named vice chairman. He took over the chain's 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:23.110 executive strategy. But things did not go well. Jonathan decided 0:10:23.170 --> 0:10:27.230 to mimic Zara, their main competitor's, fast fashion method, and 0:10:27.270 --> 0:10:31.150 it backfired. This resulted in three straight years of financial 0:10:31.190 --> 0:10:36.930 losses of $ 116 million. This situation was so serious that 0:10:36.970 --> 0:10:41.470 in 2015, Isak abruptly cut short a retirement voyage around 0:10:41.490 --> 0:10:45.120 the world on his luxury sailboat, the Novartis. and stripped 0:10:45.140 --> 0:10:49.940 Jonathan of his power. Isak publicly blamed his son for 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:54.620 losing the company's essence. This seemed to be the beginning 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:59.140 of a psychological and financial war between father and son. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:04.190 And after Jonathan's failure, Issac promoted a man named Tony 0:11:04.330 --> 0:11:08.430 Ruiz as a successor, someone outside of the family. Tony 0:11:08.470 --> 0:11:12.830 was named CEO in 2020. Tony continued the strategy of 0:11:12.950 --> 0:11:16.190 raising prices on some items instead of dropping them and 0:11:16.230 --> 0:11:19.800 making the brand more aspirational rather than competing with the 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.000 bottom of the market where companies like Timu were dominating. 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:28.580 The family dynamic grew even more fractured when Issac began 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:34.420 an on-and-off relationship with a former professional golfer named Estefania Knuth. 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:40.450 Estefania and Jonathan were widely reported to have a turbulent relationship. 0:11:44.250 --> 0:11:49.490 Police discovered that Jonathan called Estefania before he called emergency 0:11:49.540 --> 0:11:53.160 services on the day his father died. And as they 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.740 were discovering these anomalies, a fight was breaking out in 0:11:56.780 --> 0:12:01.360 the Andik family over the family fortune. As the emotional 0:12:01.420 --> 0:12:06.740 and corporate strain grew completely toxic after 2015, the family 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:10.970 quietly started looking for outside help to reconcile the billionaire 0:12:11.130 --> 0:12:11.630 and his son. 0:12:12.570 --> 0:12:13.670 And that is when. 0:12:13.430 --> 0:12:17.980 Estefania introduced the figure who turned this case upside down. 0:12:18.780 --> 0:12:36.740 Maria Julia Lunderwald, a family therapist. Known simply as Julia 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.280 or Maria Julia among the ultra wealthy elite of Barcelona, 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:45.550 she was a highly charismatic, secretive counselor who promised to 0:12:45.590 --> 0:12:50.050 resolve the deep-seated trauma of dynastic families. But the word 0:12:50.150 --> 0:12:53.210 counselor needs to be used very loosely here. because a 0:12:53.250 --> 0:12:58.200 background check by the Mosos de Esquadra confirmed that Maria, 0:12:58.630 --> 0:13:02.040 who was born Maria Julia Luna in Ecuador, had no 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:06.820 university degree in psychology or psychiatry, had no medical license, 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.620 and was completely unregistered with the official College of Psychologists 0:13:10.780 --> 0:13:15.300 in Catalonia or anywhere else in the world. Maria Julia 0:13:15.540 --> 0:13:18.590 had married a German man, and that's how she got 0:13:18.620 --> 0:13:22.470 German citizenship. She was living between Germany and Barcelona and 0:13:22.570 --> 0:13:25.670 traveling around the world to service a network of very 0:13:25.750 --> 0:13:30.420 high net worth clients. So Maria Julia ran her therapy 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:35.000 sessions on a proprietary, unscientific system she invented herself called 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.440 the seven chronologies. This was based on the idea that 0:13:38.540 --> 0:13:43.210 human life is divided into seven distinct lifespan stages, each 0:13:43.290 --> 0:13:46.230 presenting its own emotional hurdles. and that if you get 0:13:46.310 --> 0:13:50.810 stuck in a stage, you can develop toxic dependencies. So 0:13:50.890 --> 0:13:55.070 to break these blockages, former clients revealed that Maria Julia 0:13:55.230 --> 0:13:59.850 used highly unorthodox methods. They described her as a masterfully 0:13:59.930 --> 0:14:06.400 seductive figure who systematically isolated her patients, fostered extreme emotional dependence, 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:11.620 and charged large fees. And her core therapeutic tool? Forced 0:14:11.820 --> 0:14:20.110 physical confrontation in extreme situations Maria Julia was focused heavily 0:14:20.250 --> 0:14:25.440 on Jonathan's intense psychological and financial dependency on his billionaire father. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:30.710 According to leaked court logs, Jonathan explicitly confessed during these 0:14:30.750 --> 0:14:34.910 sessions to experiencing ideas of death, raw hatred, and deep 0:14:34.970 --> 0:14:39.210 rancor toward Isak. And Maria Julia seemed to side with 0:14:39.250 --> 0:14:41.180 Jonathan when it came to the money side of the 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.980 family business, telling Isak that she would drop the family 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.740 as clients unless he gave Jonathan the money that Jonathan wanted. 0:14:49.900 --> 0:14:54.680 Jonathan demanded a massive 40 million euro inheritance in life, 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:59.130 basically an early advance on his inheritance. He wanted to 0:14:59.190 --> 0:15:03.870 set up an independent tailoring business. Isak eventually agreed to 0:15:03.910 --> 0:15:08.700 continue with Maria Julia's therapy. The lawyers for Jonathan later 0:15:08.740 --> 0:15:11.740 stated that instead of the 40 million euros, he gave 0:15:11.780 --> 0:15:15.240 Jonathan 2 million, with each of his sisters receiving 1 million, 0:15:15.820 --> 0:15:22.400 amounts later offset in Isak's will. When Isak's July 2023 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:28.380 notarized will was read, it revealed his 4.5 billion euro 0:15:28.420 --> 0:15:31.480 fortune was to be split equally among his three children, 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:36.980 leaving Estefania Knut, a legacy of 5 million euros, But 0:15:37.140 --> 0:15:42.300 she aggressively fought his children in court, demanding 70 million euros. 0:15:43.020 --> 0:15:46.900 She quoted a specific provision of Catalan law known as 0:15:46.940 --> 0:15:50.060 the widow's fourth, which allows a common law partner to 0:15:50.100 --> 0:15:55.280 maintain their standard of living. The children eventually negotiated Estefania 0:15:55.340 --> 0:16:00.370 down to a 27 million euro settlement. But while that 0:16:00.410 --> 0:16:04.560 was being decided in court, Estefania told the judge something else, 0:16:05.100 --> 0:16:08.720 that right before he plunged to his death during that 0:16:08.780 --> 0:16:13.140 hike with Jonathan, that Isaac was secretly preparing a brand 0:16:13.190 --> 0:16:18.710 new unnotarized will to change everything. This rewrite would have 0:16:18.810 --> 0:16:24.110 systematically diverted his entire multi-billion euro fortune away from his 0:16:24.170 --> 0:16:29.800 children and into a charitable philanthropic foundation, effectively stripping Jonathan 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:35.620 and his sisters of their massive inheritance. In midsummer of 2026, 0:16:35.620 --> 0:16:39.760 Maria Julia's British personal assistant and English translator, a woman 0:16:39.780 --> 0:16:41.580 named Joanna, went to the police. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:43.900 Joanna said that to. 0:16:43.900 --> 0:16:47.700 Break the deadlock between Isak and Jonathan, that Maria Julia 0:16:47.740 --> 0:16:52.260 designed exercises that were supposed to symbolically enact a classic 0:16:52.380 --> 0:16:57.220 psychoanalytic concept called the death of the father. Tatler magazine 0:16:57.380 --> 0:17:00.510 later ran a detailed feature on this case, and they 0:17:00.550 --> 0:17:05.360 referred to these unorthodox practices as killing the father rituals. Apparently, 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.360 this was meant to psychologically free a son from his 0:17:08.420 --> 0:17:13.750 father's castrating shadow. Killing the father is an idea in 0:17:14.010 --> 0:17:18.230 psychoanalytic therapy, but the Tatler article pointed out pretty snarkily 0:17:18.290 --> 0:17:20.770 that this is something that would normally be acted out 0:17:20.990 --> 0:17:24.250 maybe with pillow cushions or something soft in a therapist's office, 0:17:24.790 --> 0:17:28.780 not on top of a cliff. Joanna said that Maria 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.900 Julia wanted to engineer a situation of mentally punishing a 0:17:33.060 --> 0:17:35.080 hated family member down. 0:17:34.820 --> 0:17:37.700 A physical ravine. Most critically. 0:17:38.210 --> 0:17:41.750 Joanna testified that Jonathan Andick showed an interest in this therapy. 0:17:42.100 --> 0:17:45.720 He was fascinated by this cliff drop simulation and even 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:49.820 asked to attend a session as a spectator. Attorneys for 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.340 Maria Julia tried to discredit Joanna by saying that, yes, 0:17:53.420 --> 0:17:56.660 Maria Julia had scouted the trail for a patient, but 0:17:56.700 --> 0:18:01.820 that patient wasn't Jonathan. Instead, Monteserrat was originally scouted on 0:18:01.860 --> 0:18:06.070 December 1st, 2024 for a patient named Salvador. a real 0:18:06.110 --> 0:18:10.650 man diagnosed with severe schizophrenia who harbored violent resentment toward 0:18:10.670 --> 0:18:15.530 his mother. In Salvador's planned session, Maria Julia planned to 0:18:15.630 --> 0:18:18.890 role-play as Salvador's mother on the edge of a ravine 0:18:19.410 --> 0:18:22.460 and challenge him to push her, supposedly to prove to 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.460 himself that he was unable to do it. Her attorney 0:18:25.500 --> 0:18:28.040 stated that there was supposed to be a private male 0:18:28.100 --> 0:18:30.880 psychiatric nurse that they had hired to stand on the 0:18:30.940 --> 0:18:34.450 cliff's edge just in case something happened. And Jonathan was 0:18:34.570 --> 0:18:37.910 also going to be there as an observer. But police 0:18:37.970 --> 0:18:42.470 recovered a voice note from Maria Julia, explicitly instructing Joanna 0:18:42.770 --> 0:18:45.630 to take Jonathan on a test run of that exact 0:18:45.670 --> 0:18:49.530 trail and point out the precise danger points and ravines. 0:18:50.150 --> 0:18:53.590 And so Joanna told police that on December 7th, Joanna 0:18:53.670 --> 0:18:57.740 and Jonathan had walked that trail. Maria Julia said this 0:18:57.780 --> 0:19:00.100 was to make sure that everyone stayed out of danger. 0:19:01.020 --> 0:19:05.040 But exactly one week later, Jonathan returned to that very 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.360 same path with his father, the day his father. 0:19:08.090 --> 0:19:09.250 Plunged to his death. 0:19:10.250 --> 0:19:14.130 When prosecutors asked the independent hikers about the trail during 0:19:14.150 --> 0:19:18.170 their courtroom appearances on June 30th, 2026, the ones who 0:19:18.250 --> 0:19:21.250 helped Jonathan after his dad fell, and while he was 0:19:21.310 --> 0:19:24.140 on the emergency services call, the hikers said it was 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:28.280 generally a safe trail, except for that one specific spot 0:19:28.460 --> 0:19:32.380 where Esauk fell. they testified that that spot is the 0:19:32.500 --> 0:19:36.660 single geographical bottleneck on the entire route, the one spot 0:19:36.700 --> 0:19:39.710 where if you step off the primary line, you fall 0:19:39.770 --> 0:19:43.010 into a vertical void with absolutely nothing to hold onto. 0:19:44.310 --> 0:19:47.850 Police told Jonathan that they wanted his iPhone 14, the 0:19:47.910 --> 0:19:50.350 phone that he had with him on the day Isak died. 0:19:51.170 --> 0:19:54.170 Jonathan initially told investigators that he didn't have his phone 0:19:54.270 --> 0:19:56.480 active or with him during the hike on December 14th, 2024. 0:19:56.480 --> 0:20:00.840 But then, On March. 0:20:00.300 --> 0:20:05.740 26, 2025, exactly two weeks after Spanish media first leaked 0:20:05.780 --> 0:20:09.250 the news that a judge was officially reviewing the circumstances 0:20:09.290 --> 0:20:14.050 of his father's death, Jonathan's original device, an iPhone 14, 0:20:14.050 --> 0:20:15.110 completely vanished. 0:20:16.210 --> 0:20:19.100 Now, Jonathan claimed he had to take a sudden. 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:23.580 Lightning-fast 48-hour trip across the Atlantic to Quito, Ecuador. He 0:20:23.620 --> 0:20:27.560 said he was doing it for purely professional reasons. Jonathan said, 0:20:27.930 --> 0:20:30.850 He had gone to Ecuador to meet an editorial consultant 0:20:30.910 --> 0:20:33.450 to revive a book project that his father and Maria 0:20:33.470 --> 0:20:36.600 had written. been planning before the accident, a book officially 0:20:36.660 --> 0:20:40.860 detailing her method of the seven chronologies. But while in 0:20:40.900 --> 0:20:44.930 a public square in Quito, Jonathan claimed that his iPhone 0:20:44.930 --> 0:20:48.990 14 was stolen. Now, the police found this highly suspicious 0:20:49.090 --> 0:20:51.730 because the phone that they wanted to get access to 0:20:51.810 --> 0:20:55.230 had disappeared during this trip. Lawyers for Jonathan said the 0:20:55.270 --> 0:20:58.260 trip and the timing were just a coincidence. They said 0:20:58.300 --> 0:21:00.280 that Jonathan had taken the trip to meet with a 0:21:00.340 --> 0:21:03.740 former municipal official who was writing the prologue for Maria 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:07.520 Julia's book. And Jonathan claimed that Isaac, his father, was 0:21:07.620 --> 0:21:10.950 actually helping with the book as well. The driver who 0:21:10.990 --> 0:21:14.410 Jonathan hired while in Ecuador told police that Jonathan had 0:21:14.450 --> 0:21:17.470 told him that his phone had been stolen, seemingly backing 0:21:17.530 --> 0:21:21.270 up his story. But police were even more suspicious when 0:21:21.330 --> 0:21:24.350 they found no record of a police report for theft 0:21:24.390 --> 0:21:28.460 filed in Ecuador, casting even more doubt on Jonathan's story. 0:21:48.500 --> 0:21:52.600 So again, Jonathan's lawyers and the prosecutors have two different stories. 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:57.170 The defense claims the iPhone 14 was actively operational in 0:21:57.230 --> 0:22:00.010 Quito until it was stolen in a public square, which 0:22:00.090 --> 0:22:04.550 backs up Jonathan's story. But, Police extracted data from the 0:22:04.710 --> 0:22:08.530 Apple Health application on Jonathan's device, the one that logs 0:22:08.590 --> 0:22:12.790 steps in the background, and found that Jonathan's device recorded 0:22:13.090 --> 0:22:17.430 absolutely zero background health or step activity. During the precise 0:22:17.450 --> 0:22:21.110 48-hour window, Jonathan claims that the phone had been active 0:22:21.130 --> 0:22:24.780 in his pocket before the theft. The network tower queries 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:28.880 back this up, proving, investigators say, that the phone was 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:34.760 completely turned off. Police seized Jonathan's replacement phone, an iPhone 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:38.060 16 Pro, and they found that his cloud data logs 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:42.600 proved that during setup, Jonathan restored his contacts but did 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:47.000 not restore his WhatsApp backups, meaning that the entire text 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:50.280 history from the weeks surrounding his father's death were lost. 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:55.060 Police were also scouring data from Joanna, the translator's phone, 0:22:55.380 --> 0:22:58.820 and found WhatsApp messages that backed up her story. They 0:22:58.900 --> 0:23:02.940 found messages from Maria Julia to Joanna, saying to make 0:23:03.020 --> 0:23:06.440 sure that Joanna showed Jonathan the precise danger points and 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:11.770 ravines along the mountain trail. To counter the prosecution's claims 0:23:11.870 --> 0:23:15.970 of a premeditated push, the defense has heavily relied on 0:23:16.110 --> 0:23:20.870 ISAC's medical records. They submitted CCTV security footage from 10 0:23:20.870 --> 0:23:25.470 months prior to the tragedy, showing ISAC stumbling heavily in 0:23:25.510 --> 0:23:30.230 the lobby of corporate headquarters in Barcelona. Isak nearly fell 0:23:30.330 --> 0:23:34.310 face first before a colleague caught him. They argued that 0:23:34.390 --> 0:23:38.840 Isak suffered from advanced osteoarthritis in both knees, which made 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.540 his joints prone to sudden spontaneous collapse. 0:23:42.340 --> 0:23:43.460 The lawyers claim that. 0:23:43.380 --> 0:23:46.640 When Isak stumbled on the loose mountain shale, his knees 0:23:46.820 --> 0:23:50.380 completely gave way and that that would explain why he 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:55.090 fell feet first without leaving defensive markings. But prosecutors are 0:23:55.130 --> 0:23:57.910 viewing the exact same knee data through a different lens. 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:02.080 They argue that Jonathan knew that his father's balance was fragile, 0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:06.330 making the lone safety bottleneck on the Montessorat Trail the 0:24:06.470 --> 0:24:12.790 perfect weaponized location. Now, throughout this entire ordeal, Maria Julia 0:24:12.890 --> 0:24:16.290 has tried to claim that her conversations and notes regarding 0:24:16.310 --> 0:24:21.240 the Andik family were legally protected under therapist-client privilege. But 0:24:21.360 --> 0:24:25.240 the judge, Raquel Nieto, completely dismantled that theory. 0:24:25.930 --> 0:24:28.190 Because Maria Julia has no. 0:24:28.070 --> 0:24:31.900 Official clinical degree, holds no medical license, and is completely 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.760 unregistered with the College of Psychologists, the court delivered a 0:24:35.820 --> 0:24:41.420 crushing decree. Under Spanish law, Maria is considered an unregulated mediator, 0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.340 not a medical professional, and so the confidentiality rules do 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:46.030 not apply. 0:24:46.830 --> 0:24:47.210 And so. 0:24:47.810 --> 0:24:50.450 Maria Julia was forced to take the stand for a 0:24:50.510 --> 0:24:54.500 grueling three hours and to surrender every single scrap of 0:24:54.540 --> 0:24:58.460 her private therapeutic notes, her diary logs, and all of 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:02.280 her communication with the Andik family. Maria Julia, by the way, 0:25:02.300 --> 0:25:05.240 has said that her therapy works. In fact, she said 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.350 that it had helped the Andik family. She pointed to 0:25:08.370 --> 0:25:11.450 the fact that after becoming her client, that Jonathan got 0:25:11.490 --> 0:25:14.230 married to a businesswoman, an influencer, and that they had 0:25:14.310 --> 0:25:17.830 had a baby. almost exactly nine months after Esau's death. 0:25:18.930 --> 0:25:22.910 She said that Jonathan had extreme emotional and financial dependency 0:25:23.010 --> 0:25:24.870 on his father and that that's what they had been 0:25:24.910 --> 0:25:29.410 working through in therapy. In the end, following an intense 0:25:29.500 --> 0:25:33.760 estate dispute, 95% of the family's holding company was divided 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:37.460 among Jonathan and his two sisters, while the remaining 5% 0:25:37.460 --> 0:25:40.160 of the empire went to the CEO, Tony Ruiz. 0:25:41.180 --> 0:25:43.580 But this ordeal is not over because a judge has 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:45.330 ordered that. 0:25:45.030 --> 0:25:48.490 33 witnesses testify in court, which is scheduled to start 0:25:48.530 --> 0:25:53.160 in November and run through December 16th, 2026. The court 0:25:53.260 --> 0:25:57.760 will hear testimony from Mango's executive chairman, Tony Ruiz, and 0:25:57.980 --> 0:26:01.060 the other executors of Isak's will, as well as other 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:03.930 family members. Over the next month, they're going to be 0:26:04.010 --> 0:26:06.810 forced to stand in a courtroom and to untangle the 0:26:06.850 --> 0:26:10.450 financial motives, the white cloud accounts, and the dark psychological 0:26:10.470 --> 0:26:14.880 manipulation behind this fatal plunge. Was what happened on that 0:26:14.940 --> 0:26:18.310 cliff an accident or a homicide or some combination of both? 0:26:19.050 --> 0:26:22.350 Was Jonathan planning on confronting his father? And then his 0:26:22.410 --> 0:26:25.930 father perhaps stepped back, shocked, and fell to his death. 0:26:26.550 --> 0:26:29.450 But if that was the case, why would Jonathan, who 0:26:29.470 --> 0:26:32.810 we now know had hiked this trail before, several times 0:26:32.890 --> 0:26:35.770 before taking his father up there and knew the dangerous points, 0:26:36.550 --> 0:26:39.530 choose the one spot where there was no railing in 0:26:39.590 --> 0:26:41.410 order to stage this kind of confrontation? 0:26:42.470 --> 0:26:43.830 Prosecutors have not. 0:26:43.690 --> 0:26:48.210 Accused Maria Julia of any offense or placed her under investigation. 0:26:48.870 --> 0:26:51.530 And there is no suggestion that the alleged exercise she 0:26:51.590 --> 0:26:55.720 created was intended to cause physical harm. But Maria Julia 0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.860 will have to explain another piece of text evidence. Right 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:02.340 after Isak Andik fell to his death, the assistant, Joanna, 0:27:02.460 --> 0:27:05.760 texted Maria Julia in a panic, asking what had happened. 0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:10.300 Maria Julia texted back a chilling response. Maybe it's better 0:27:10.340 --> 0:27:14.300 if I don't know. Otherwise, I might be next. The 0:27:14.340 --> 0:27:18.130 defense heavily characterizes this message as nothing more than dark, 0:27:18.310 --> 0:27:22.810 panicked humor. They argue she was simply terrified that her unorthodox, 0:27:22.990 --> 0:27:26.430 unlicensed status would make her an immediate scapegoat for the 0:27:26.490 --> 0:27:30.650 media and the police. The court has officially expanded the 0:27:30.670 --> 0:27:34.710 scope of the homicide probe to Maria Julia. They're investigating 0:27:34.740 --> 0:27:38.800 whether the unlicensed therapist acted as a direct accomplice or co-conspirator. 0:27:39.900 --> 0:27:43.300 So now the entire country will be watching these court 0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.230 proceedings with a witness list that reads like a roll 0:27:46.270 --> 0:27:51.350 call of Spain's elite, including Isaac's brother, Nominandic, whose testimony 0:27:51.390 --> 0:27:54.570 could finally expose the raw unvarnished truth about the family 0:27:54.610 --> 0:27:57.450 dynamics leading up to that fateful day on the mountain. 0:27:58.590 --> 0:28:01.980 Was it a tragic accidental misstep by an aging billionaire 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:07.150 or was it a meticulously orchestrated fall? Kill the father 0:28:07.230 --> 0:28:12.040 is a symbolic psychological idea popularized by Sigmund Freud. We 0:28:12.060 --> 0:28:16.260 can assume this is what inspired Maria Julia's pseudotherapy practices 0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:20.160 for Jonathan in Isak. The two allegedly battled with each 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.460 other in the months before the fall, with Jonathan reportedly 0:28:23.500 --> 0:28:26.900 becoming furious after learning about a recent change to his 0:28:26.940 --> 0:28:30.340 father's will. It doesn't surprise me that you thought I 0:28:30.360 --> 0:28:31.420