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Speaker 1: Oh time, Steve Tasker backsticks down text time, Good afternoon, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill's Live for a Friday afternoon. We're

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Speaker 1: coming to you live from Orchard Park, right next door

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Speaker 1: to the stadium where the Bills playing. It is One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy and Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: Steve get contain himself. What are you laughing about? Man?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm laughing about it. So we come

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Speaker 1: in every day, we think about what's going on the show.

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Speaker 1: You spend a couple of hours talking about it, getting ready,

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Speaker 1: getting the notes of the arguing friday to day, arguing

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Speaker 1: about listen we got It's hard to do the show

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Speaker 1: at this time of year because there's just nothing going

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Speaker 1: on in the NFL and Free agency is still a

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Speaker 1: week and a half away, the combines coming up, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you get we get guests on stuff, and

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Speaker 1: about stuff that's reflent. And then every so often something

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Speaker 1: comes up. Late last week it was the what was

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Speaker 1: the Antonio Brown thing? When he comes out? And what

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Speaker 1: wasn't last week? It's Monday or something that dropped right

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Speaker 1: in our lap, just coming on the air, right, so

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Speaker 1: some every so often a topic drops out that happens

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Speaker 1: and lo and behold, an unbelievable story comes out of Jupiter, Florida.

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Speaker 1: I mean five minutes ago, should I just say it? Sure,

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Speaker 1: the owner of the owner of the New England Patriots,

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Speaker 1: Robert Kraft, was is facing charges in Jupiter, Florida over

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Speaker 1: solicitation of prostitution in a staying operation at a day

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Speaker 1: spa called Orchids Day Spa in Florida, and his name,

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Speaker 1: along with a list of other guys that we don't know,

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Speaker 1: are facing charges for sex trafficking. It is unbelievable. One

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Speaker 1: of the most respected owners in the NFL is in

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Speaker 1: the midst of this, and it's and your mind, It

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Speaker 1: just explodes your mind because you always thought that. Let

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Speaker 1: me just remind people, Jerry and now I can't remember

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Speaker 1: that the former owner of the Carolina Panthers, Jerry Richardson,

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Speaker 1: inside the building. It will be incredibly unbelievable if Robert

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Speaker 1: Kraft is asked to do the same thing with the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots. After all the things he's done with

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Speaker 1: six World Championships, the role that he has played at

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Speaker 1: the highest levels of the National Football League, his relationship

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Speaker 1: with Roger Goodell, although it's been a roller coaster at

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Speaker 1: times because of deflate Gate and Spygate and all of

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Speaker 1: those things that happened. Doesn't this Isn't this more egregious

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Speaker 1: of Panthers for you're asking me, yes it is, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: At first glance it's obviously is yeah, not guilty. Yet

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Speaker 1: we should say that he's not Tomla Chief in Jupiter, Florida,

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Speaker 1: said Bob Kraft, among individuals caught at a spa charged

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Speaker 1: with soliciting another to commit prostitution. He owns property in

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Speaker 1: the Palm Beach, Florida area, seventy seven years old. The

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Speaker 1: sheriff said earlier this week about one hundred men would

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Speaker 1: be arrested. His quote, the tentacles of this go from

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Speaker 1: without a hyperbole, that this is the tip of the iceberg.

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Speaker 1: But Bob Kraft caught up in this charge was soliciting

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Speaker 1: another to commit prostitution. You're asking me, is this more

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Speaker 1: serious than Jerry Richardson's inappropriate conduct at work? It seems

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Speaker 1: to me it is. Again, he is not proven to

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Speaker 1: it doesn't appear that he's part of it ring leaders.

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Speaker 1: up on all these news outlets. It's not the same

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah. Here in Buffalo, one of the news

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Speaker 1: It's like really, Bob Kraft. Um, and you said, I

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Speaker 1: it seems like even with the flight gate dust up

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Speaker 1: just according to Tampa's w PEC Danielle Waugh, there will

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Speaker 1: be a warrant for Crafts arrest. Wow. And as we

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Speaker 1: deeply involved in. Other owners have been forced to sell

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Speaker 1: their franchises for what you and I think is something

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Speaker 1: sexual misconduct in the workplace. This to me, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this guy's getting arrested. Yeah, this is more serious. This

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Speaker 1: is more serious. Yeah. I don't know where it goes

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Speaker 1: we await the obligatory statement from the league. We are

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Speaker 1: aware of the allegations that are investigating, right, That's what

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Speaker 1: we're looking into it and where investigation is continuing. That's

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Speaker 1: this is the next hour. This is tailor made for Twitter. Right,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I am Les Bone, who's a longtime

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Speaker 1: a classic sports reporter take somewhere, he writes on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: crazy stunning. It is just happened, what five minutes where

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Speaker 1: the show. And it's like what at first, like always

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Speaker 1: some idiot troller on Twitter. But no, no, it is nuts.

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Speaker 1: Uh kind of kind of kind of makes our Twitter

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Speaker 1: my gosh, we'll take your phone calls and we want

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Speaker 1: let's let's say this right at the top. We're in Buffalo, right,

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Speaker 1: we don't like the Patriots. We despise the Patriots. I

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Speaker 1: remember our Super Bowl poll about yeah, yeah, all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Um, this is a real thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: soliciting prostitution. So it's for real, it's not just a rumor.

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Speaker 1: It's not just a report. Um the police chief and Jupiter,

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Speaker 1: how do you get out of that? I mean, found

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Speaker 1: Bob Kraft, Jerry Jones. Who else would be in that conversation? Nobody?

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Speaker 1: an NFL owner, Um, Robert Kraft wins. Bob Craft or j.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones probably wins. But Robert Kraft's right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and um, yeah, he presumed in assent. We know that.

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Speaker 1: Um do they put him on the Commissioner's exempt list? Right?

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Speaker 1: An owner on the commissioners exempt list? That's what they

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Speaker 1: do when players are in trouble going on. You know,

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Speaker 1: you always thought, we always thought it would be Bill

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Speaker 1: belichicker Tom Brady that would end that dynasty. Does this

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Speaker 1: the field. I think that the very least Robert Kraft

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Speaker 1: we're trying to recover from that. Man. That is that

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Speaker 1: is that's a grenade in the middle of your day.

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Speaker 1: I mean that just like that changes everything. I mean,

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Speaker 1: right and everything. Yeah, you got you gotta take yourself.

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Speaker 1: You go to the emergency. Your whole day centers around

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Speaker 1: that for the rest of the day. I mean, nothing else,

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Speaker 1: you know. Oh man, that's like stitches from bumping your head.

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Speaker 1: You got to go in and get that done. Charge

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Speaker 1: with soliciting to prostitute in the orchids of Asia day

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Speaker 1: spa raid in Jupiter, Florida. Jupiter Police Department says they

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Speaker 1: way to do it, obviously than quit on your team.

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Speaker 1: At the end, we'll talk more about that. We've got

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about all of a sudden, including

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Speaker 1: Robert Kraft, the owner of the Patriots, turns with the

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Speaker 1: two counts of soliciting prostitution. You may have thoughts on

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Speaker 1: that call here from Korean Buffalo. Hello, Corey, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hello Corey, are you there? No

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Speaker 1: no core now? Phone lines open? Eight three fifty to

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Speaker 1: Back to Kraft for a minute, here, Bob Steve, you're

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Speaker 1: not Bob what? Um? Look, it's a black mark. And

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Speaker 1: again we are presuming innocence here, I get that, and

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Speaker 1: we will uh. They claim they have video evidence, they

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Speaker 1: claimed their two accounts. Okay, we are we adhere to

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Speaker 1: the presumption of innocence for Bobcraft. However, this is a

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Speaker 1: black mark on the league and certainly a black mark

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Speaker 1: on the Patriots, who loved this past year to play

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Speaker 1: the card that they were counted out, that they were there,

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Speaker 1: disliked that people don't like them. Then they don't support them. Um.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the reasons why. Really, quite frankly, Um,

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Speaker 1: you have the long trail of patriots um allegations about

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Speaker 1: UH spy yate, about the deflate gate, you have the

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Speaker 1: long trail about other things. You you talked about it

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Speaker 1: during the super Bowl week. The suspicion that surrounds them,

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Speaker 1: this makes that worse. This. You know, people say six

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Speaker 1: super Bowls by the tarnish legacy. This absolutely kills their legacy,

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Speaker 1: I think right when the owner is charged with the

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Speaker 1: with the tawdry charge like this, this absolutely kills them,

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Speaker 1: whatever their historical legacy might be. And it's creepy too,

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Speaker 1: because the reports are coming out from from accredited media

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Speaker 1: members that that it was trafficking, it was human trafficking,

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Speaker 1: and these women were brought to the US under the

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Speaker 1: guys that they were having legitimate jobs and then they

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Speaker 1: were held virtual prisoners at this by whoever's running this

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Speaker 1: day spa or whatever, and however many facilities they have.

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Speaker 1: This was. There are hundreds of people involved, and Robert

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Speaker 1: Kraft is mentioned in it. And it's it's ugly. It

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Speaker 1: is really ugly, and it is not gonna go well

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Speaker 1: for anybody involved in this. It doesn't look like and

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Speaker 1: it's it's really horrific when you start to read the

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Speaker 1: details of how this was all going down. It it

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Speaker 1: was a big, wide sting operation. They've got video evidence

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Speaker 1: of all of it. It's been ongoing for quite some time,

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Speaker 1: and now they sprung the trap this morning and these

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Speaker 1: guys are being brought up on charges and and deservedly

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Speaker 1: so it sounds like it makes me wonder. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't normally care about big stories like this, but

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Speaker 1: it makes you wonder who else could be involved? Right

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Speaker 1: If Bob Kraft, prominent as he is, wealthy as he is,

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Speaker 1: gets caught up in a sting operation like this, are

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Speaker 1: there others? Are his friends may be prominent or not?

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Speaker 1: Are there other major figures in that part of Florida

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Speaker 1: who are gonna get caught up in this? What they

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Speaker 1: say one hundred arrests. Actually right now it's said twenty

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Speaker 1: five people are charged, according to the police, but there

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Speaker 1: have been reports that, Yeah, it's wide ranging crazy. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk more about that. We'll take a break if you'd

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Speaker 1: like to talk about the Bobcraft situation. We don't know

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Speaker 1: much about it, but we're willing to entertain your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight three five fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you want to weigh in on our topic of the day.

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Speaker 1: What type of leader do you want in a quarterback

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Speaker 1: and how important is being a leader at that position?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call. You can tweet in your response

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Speaker 1: as well. We could read it from the tweet cheap.

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Speaker 1: Just getting rolling. It is John Murphy, Seve Tasker one

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Speaker 1: goes live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, John Murphy. See Tansker one goes live from

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Speaker 1: One Goes Drive Here on a Friday afternoon. That started

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Speaker 1: out Friday morning, that started out quiet, and then the

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Speaker 1: news from Florida Patriots owner Bobcraft charged with misdemeanor. That's important.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that, misdemeanor, solicitation of prostitution. Police and

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Speaker 1: Jupiter say they have videotape of him pain for a

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Speaker 1: sex act inside a massage parler. Okay, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: leadership as well. At the quarterbacks spot. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: with rich Gannon about it. Coming up at one o'clock,

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Speaker 1: two o'clock, we'll talk with Field Yates, NFL reporter from ESPN.

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Speaker 1: He'll be joining us in the meantime leadership at the

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Speaker 1: quarterback spot. What type of leader do you want in

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Speaker 1: a quarterback? Let's talk about Roethlisberger for a second here,

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Speaker 1: Stevie May. I the Kevin Colbert, All right with that?

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Speaker 1: The Kevin Colbert thing. And this came up two days ago,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't realize this, and I read a little

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Speaker 1: bit more on it today. Colbert was not asked about

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown's comments about Roethlisberger. He brought it up. Ed Buschett,

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Speaker 1: who covers the Steelers for the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. He

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Speaker 1: brought it up a thirty minute interview, and Kevin Colbert

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Speaker 1: was assertive. Bushett says when he spoke about Ben Roethlisberger,

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Speaker 1: a general manager, unprompted by the media interviewing him Wednesday

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Speaker 1: confront of the speculation, the quote, Ben Roethlisberger is unquestionably

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Speaker 1: the leader of the team, not just by my standards,

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Speaker 1: by the standards the team recognizes. He was called having

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Speaker 1: an owner's mentality. Antonio Brown said Roethlisberger can call out anybody,

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Speaker 1: including coaches. Colbert, the GM said Roethlisberger is our only

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl winner as a quarterback and as a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl participant. It's a big burden for him. We've talked

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Speaker 1: about it, a tremendous wait for him to have to

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Speaker 1: carry that week in and week out. He's a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, potential Hall of Fame quarterback. And he also

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Speaker 1: I can't find the quote, but he also referred to

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Speaker 1: the rest of him is kind of children. Right. Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got fifty two kids. Fifty two kids. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: whole Yeah, it bothers me. I gotta say, Roethlisberger is

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Speaker 1: the leader. Everybody would acknowledge that, is the one with

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Speaker 1: the Super super Bowl experience. Everybody would have to acknowledge that.

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Speaker 1: And yet to call them fifty two children and saying

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Speaker 1: he is the guy you have to follow. I get

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Speaker 1: backing up your quarterback. But I think he may have

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Speaker 1: overstated it Colbert a little bit. There a lot, actually,

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Speaker 1: And if I'm one of the other fifty two Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown or not, even if I'm not Antonio Brown, even

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Speaker 1: if I like Roethlisberger believe in him as a leader,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be told you're you're just a follower,

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Speaker 1: You're just a child. Here the real man in the

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Speaker 1: room is right over there. I think that that goes

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Speaker 1: too far. You can imagine how that flies. Yeah, not well,

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Speaker 1: not very far at all. That's it speaks to the

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Speaker 1: dysfunction that's in their locker room. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to play both sides of the

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Speaker 1: coin here. Then Roethlisberger is a great quarterback, but it

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Speaker 1: sounded more and more like he's a horrible teammate. We

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Speaker 1: all know that his past, he got off to a

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Speaker 1: very rough start in the early part of his career.

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Speaker 1: Forget the football side of it. You know, all the

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Speaker 1: charges that were leveled against him, he got he had

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Speaker 1: a bad reputation. Then it looked like he kind of

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Speaker 1: got better in his personal life. And that's but he's

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Speaker 1: never been accused or attributed as being a great teammate.

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Speaker 1: Certainly nobody's has come out to this level and said

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Speaker 1: he he stinks as a teammate and he's got an

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Speaker 1: owner's mentality and all that, all the stuff the criticism

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Speaker 1: that's been leveled at him, now that by Antonio Brown

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Speaker 1: and others who were piling on He's never been that

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Speaker 1: kind of guy. And now I think it's it speaks

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Speaker 1: to how that type of leadership has warped the inside

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Speaker 1: of that building. A very talented team didn't get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, has never been able to get

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Speaker 1: over that hump. With Ben Roethlisberger as the most notable

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Speaker 1: guy on that team, and back in the day when

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Speaker 1: he was winning Super Bowls, he wasn't the lead dog

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Speaker 1: in that pack. It was guys like James Harrison, Larry Foote,

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Speaker 1: guys like that who were really the guys who said,

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Speaker 1: this is how we're doing it, this is the way

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Speaker 1: our team works, this is it. And as a result,

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger was joined into that. But as he became

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Speaker 1: goes with it, it's obvious he flexed his muscles politically

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Speaker 1: inside that building in a way that was detrimental to

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Speaker 1: his success and to the success of the team. You've

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Speaker 1: seen guys leave that place, James Harrison and now Levy

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Speaker 1: on Belle, Martavius Bryant, and Antonio Brown. There's a couple

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Speaker 1: of handful of guys there that it didn't end well

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Speaker 1: for him, and more than one of them is pointing

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Speaker 1: to Ben as being the reason. You know, So my

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Speaker 1: first reaction was when Kevin Colbert went a little a

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Speaker 1: I got thinking, well, what choice did he have? You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, if you're the GM of that

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Speaker 1: team which they're trying to keep it together. You can

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Speaker 1: almost see the Steelers kind of, you know, keeping their

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Speaker 1: arms around everything that's first setting out of control. They're

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Speaker 1: trying to He's looking at us saying, my best course

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Speaker 1: here is to keep Ben, you know, with us, keep Ben.

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Speaker 1: Let Roethlisberger know that he is our guy, he is

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Speaker 1: our leader, to back him up strongly. It's probably the

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Speaker 1: best I mean, I'm sure, and the Steelers are pretty

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Speaker 1: smart they think about all these things. I'm sure they

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Speaker 1: thought that through and said, our best bet here is

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Speaker 1: to take whatever hits we might take and wrap our

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Speaker 1: arms around Ben Roethlisberger moving forward, because he is the

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Speaker 1: most stable guy we have and the most experienced guy

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Speaker 1: we have. So I don't know. I guess my point is,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what else Kevin Colbert could have done.

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Speaker 1: You don't want him to agree with Antonio Brown and say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we gotta straighten out this leadership thing. We got to

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Speaker 1: make sure that nobody What would have been if he

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Speaker 1: had agreed even mildly with Antonio Brown and said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we can't have one guy acting like the owner. We

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Speaker 1: gotta straighten this out. All of a sudden, You've cut

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Speaker 1: the floor out from underneath your most important player. He

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Speaker 1: can't do that as a general manager of that team, right,

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Speaker 1: That's exactly. It's a tough place to me it is now.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't feel sorry for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: They've had a you know, they've got a head coach

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Speaker 1: who certainly as a role to play here, and I

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Speaker 1: think he's been kind of missing in action. Ben's a

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Speaker 1: hard child. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's a difficulty has been

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Speaker 1: right out of the box and he always and they've

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Speaker 1: remember he crashed his crashes the motorcycle with with Kawer

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Speaker 1: as the head coach, and he's like, hey, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: you know that that had to bring him in that

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Speaker 1: he got sent to the principal's office a couple of

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Speaker 1: times over the course of his early career, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he just here's the thing. He is a truly great quarterback.

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Speaker 1: This ain't Ryan Tannehill. We're talking about this isn't Jake

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Speaker 1: Locker we're talking about you don't care what? Yeah, this isn't.

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Speaker 1: This isn't you know, um one of these guys that

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Speaker 1: is about. This guy is a great football player, and

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Speaker 1: it isn't in a in a group dynamic that is

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Speaker 1: a football team. It's hard to keep him in check

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Speaker 1: because you can't bench him or you're gonna lose. You can't.

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Speaker 1: You got to find a way to reprimand him that

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Speaker 1: doesn't make him feel like um. And with all his

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Speaker 1: baggage that he brings to the table that it doesn't

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Speaker 1: make him go in the tank. You can't embarrass him.

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Speaker 1: You can't embarrass you to lose him. And plus, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. You you if you bring him into the

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Speaker 1: B and C. And he says, no, I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 1: It's not who I want to be. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to do that. It's too much work. I'm having a

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Speaker 1: hard enough time just playing good football. I'm not going

637
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: the extra mile for these guys. Tell them to shape

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Speaker 1: up and do what I tell them to do. What

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Right, It's hard. It's a hard thing,

640
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: and that's what that's These guys are hard to find. Yeah,

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00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: they're hard. Look ask everybody accept them. Who how hard

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Speaker 1: it is to find Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, nobody knows where

643
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: those guys are. You gotta find him and you gotta

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Speaker 1: cul to him. You gotta hope that once they become

645
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: these superstar rock stars, that you can live with them.

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00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: That's where they're at with Ben yep type of leader

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Speaker 1: do you want in a quarterback? Give us a call,

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Speaker 1: we'll discuss. Clayton on the line from Alfred, New York.

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Speaker 1: Hello Clayton, welcome to the show. Hey, you got you

650
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Speaker 1: doing okay? Really? What you What I look for in

651
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: quarterback are the guys that are really willing to do

652
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: what it takes to win games and having that willingness

653
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Speaker 1: to put put it all on the line to win football.

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00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: But also look for the guys that never have two highs,

655
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Speaker 1: too much of a high or too much of a low,

656
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Speaker 1: where they don't get too confident at the same time,

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Speaker 1: they don't loose confidence in themselves where if they throw

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Speaker 1: an interception on drive and they can't come back from it,

659
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: and they're on their own head the rest of the game,

660
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: and they're not worried about playing football. Clayton, let me

661
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: ask you this, what give me? Give me like an

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Speaker 1: example of a quarterback who's got the great personality for

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Speaker 1: that but has and then another guy who's got like

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Speaker 1: the minimum physical abilities that you got to have for that.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Give me two different guys

666
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Speaker 1: that if you mix them together, they'd be a perfect quarterback.

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00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's constant in the far high,

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00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: but probably Brady and Folds, Nick Foles and Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Brady being the guy with the ability, Brady being the

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Speaker 1: guy with the arm and the mental ability, and then

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Speaker 1: Folds where he's kind of even killed the entire game

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Speaker 1: no matter why I got you whether he makes you

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00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean, he makes play. Who has the Clayton,

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Speaker 1: who has the minimum requirement of physical like the arm

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00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: strength in the athleticism. What's the least guy in the

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00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: league that could possibly be a great enough leader to

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Speaker 1: win games. That's a great question. It's a tough question.

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00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: It's right, because they all have something. Question right, who

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00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: has the least amount of ability but the most amount

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Speaker 1: of leadership that would that you can win a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl with. Wow, you can win a super Bowl with Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the honest right, gilpher Right, everybody's go

683
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: to a guy for how this guy win a super Bowl? Right? Well? Yeah,

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00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: but who I mean, who's who's there now? I mean

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Speaker 1: give me a guy. I mean, who has the weakest

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00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: arm that could possibly win a Super Bowl? Peyton Manning

687
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: did it and he couldn't throw the ball fifteen yards.

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00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: That's a good answer. You know that was on the

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00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: end of his career. Yeah, I mean I get it,

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00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: but he still did it. I mean, they still had

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00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: a really great defense and they want to won a game,

692
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: and he was the guy that really was the offensive corner.

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00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: He had all those leadership skills and all the knowledge,

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Speaker 1: but he couldn't push the ball twenty five yards down

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Speaker 1: the field without throwing it in like a rainbow. So

696
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: they did it, right, But think and think back here

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Speaker 1: and this guy we all know and everybody knows and

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Speaker 1: loves as Ryan Fitzpatrick, a guy who's got all the

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Speaker 1: great leadership, all the stuff, but he didn't you know,

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Speaker 1: he can't get it done. Champion, not gonna win a championship.

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Speaker 1: With fits and we love him right right right, where's

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00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: the balance struck? So you know that's the that's the

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00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: real question. It's how much can one overcome the other?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, they're looking at more

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Speaker 1: of a game management type person than overcome those inabilities

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Speaker 1: and their and their own physical traits, and they're the

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00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: things that set them aside, right game managers. I mean,

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00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: we don't really be game managers. When many Super Bowls anymore?

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Speaker 1: You can say, you can say it about like Trent Dilfer,

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Speaker 1: he did it um And at this point you could

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Speaker 1: almost say that Joe Flacco did it. You know, he

712
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: had a strong arm, he had he can throw it,

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Speaker 1: but he can't run. And he's not a leader. He's

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Speaker 1: not a leader at all. He's a flatline guy who

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00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: doesn't speak up at all. Yeah, you know that's and

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00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: that's one of his criticisms. You know, we're trying to

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00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: get down, we're trying to drill down on this what

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Speaker 1: type of leader do you want in your quarterback? And

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Speaker 1: the second part of the question, how important is being

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Speaker 1: a leader at that position? I kind of scoffed at

721
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: that a couple of minutes ago, because of course, it

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00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: is right, I mean, is there. You can't just be

723
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: a you can't be a follower. Yeah, I'll play a quarterback. Sure,

724
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: what do you guys want to do? Yeah? Right, there's

725
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: no way, there's no viable scenario. Well, I don't know.

726
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: You tell me he's Flacco that guy. No, I think

727
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: he well, not completely, but he is. He tends that way,

728
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's his downfall. He's an

729
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: inability to go in the huddle and instill confidence in

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Speaker 1: those guys. He calls the he calls the play in

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Speaker 1: two minutes to go in the fourth quarter, no timeouts

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00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: and you need a field goal to win. He calls

733
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 1: those plays just like he did in the first quarter.

734
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: No urgent, you know, the urgency's not there, that the

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00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: emotions not there, The hey, let's do this together is

736
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: not there. You know. But here's the thing. When you're

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00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: down fifteen and it's start of the second half, you

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00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: need a guy that says, he, hey, let's go, here's

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00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: the play. Let's you know, and you need that, you know,

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00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: when you're going into the first series of a super

741
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: Bowl and he got a peel guys off the ceiling

742
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: because they're sky high. You need Joe Flacco to go

743
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: in there and say, hey, here it is red right

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00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: twenty three burst right, why cross, let's go. You know

745
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: that you need kind of that guy. There's a place

746
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: for all of that. And Joe Flacco was in the

747
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: right spot at the right time with ray Lewis at

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00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: the in the ascension of his career, at the end

749
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: of his career where he has all that swag going on,

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00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: where he's such a leader and such a rallying point.

751
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: You know, the quarterback could stay back and do it.

752
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: What type of leader do you want in your quarterback?

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00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: That's you're discussing today. We come back, We'll give you

754
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: the latest what we know about the Bibcraft situation, and

755
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: take some more of your phone calls. Read some tweets.

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Speaker 1: live from One Goes Drive, John Murphy's Seve Tasker. The

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Speaker 1: boat show going on the other side of the room.

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Speaker 1: We just go out there, go to the men's room

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Speaker 1: and we're boom hit by boats. It's amazing. It just

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Speaker 1: opened at noon today and there's a ton of yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The place was an ant hire everywhere. Now it's a

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Speaker 1: say said, where's everybody as well? Today? It's not free,

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Speaker 1: but it's pretty cool. There's a million boats out there,

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Speaker 1: all right, so a million either the News of the day.

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Speaker 1: Police and Jupiter, Florida have charged patriots on the Bobcraft

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Speaker 1: with misdemeanors solicitation or prostitution. They say they have videotape

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Speaker 1: of him paying for a sex act sex act inside

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Speaker 1: illegal massage parlor. Craft seventy seven years old, has not

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Speaker 1: been arrested or warrant will be issued, the authorities say,

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Speaker 1: and attorneys will be notified. In a statement, a spokesman

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Speaker 1: for Bobcraft said, they quote categorically deny that mister Craft

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00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: engaged in any illegal activity. Because it is a juda matter,

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Speaker 1: we will not be commenting further amazing. We don't know

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00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: what else to say about. We don't know much about it,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna stick to our topic of the day.

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00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: What type of leader do you want in your quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three oh five fifty

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00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: and toll free one eight eight five fifty two five

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00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: fifty phone lines open for that, and the tweet sheet

783
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: tweets are open as well. Phil Gibson tweets this, and

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Speaker 1: I like a lot that Josh Allen brings in time.

785
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: Maybe Kelly Swagger, I'd like Frank Reichs never Say Die spirit.

786
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: Maybe Brett Farve's draw up in the sand football game, Gene.

787
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: He just knows how to play the game. I don't

788
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: know if I want him drawn up plays in the

789
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: sand like Brett Farve. Yeah, I don't know. It was

790
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Speaker 1: Brett Farve a great leader. What do you think, Steve.

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Speaker 1: I know, guys like playing with him. Yeah, it's a

792
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: good guy question. Ton Baby played with him, and Don's

793
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: talked about him and not. They all listen, all of

794
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: us have our have our issues that we all deal

795
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: with that our friends kind of let slide. So every

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00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: quarterback is the same way. I mean, everybody's got shortcomings

797
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: that you know, we all say that's just the way

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00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: he is, you know. But yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 1: Brett farr was. I think that's one of the reasons

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00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: he was so successful for so long. Guys rallied to him.

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00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: He was a guy who was who came across as

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00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: being a real battler, you know, and was willing to

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00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: do anything to win, try any crazy thing, run past whatever.

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00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: He seemed unselfish, and that's that's a big thing. When

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00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback is willing to turn around and hand it

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00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: off as much as he is to throw it. Give

807
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: everybody a chance to do what they do best. Um.

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00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: I think Bret far falls into that category. I have

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00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: not heard anything but really good stuff about him as

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00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: a leader on the football field. Kelly swagger, you don't

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Speaker 1: You probably heard me say this. I defy people to

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00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: define swagger for me. But we're not going to get

813
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: into that right here. I don't think I do. What

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00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: do you mean? I will say this one of the

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Speaker 1: early impressions I got of Josh Allen and today's questions

816
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: is not just about Josh Allen obviously, but one of

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00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: the earliest impressions I got that's how competitive he is.

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00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: I would argue that he if that's is that swagger.

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Speaker 1: His competitiveness I think stands out at first, before I

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00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: even really saw him playing a meaningful game, I thought, Wow,

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Speaker 1: that guy likes to play and likes to win. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good saying. That's an element of leadership, right.

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Speaker 1: I'm so competitive. I want to crush you. I want

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00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: to beat you in ping pong, I want to beat

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00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: you in locker room foodsball, and I want to beat

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Speaker 1: whoever we're in playing on the football field. I love

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00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: that about Josh Allen, and I think I saw that

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Speaker 1: early on. All Right, I agree, But this leadership, it

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Speaker 1: is leaderships. It's part of leadership. It's part of what

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Speaker 1: makes him who he is. Leadership is getting guys to

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Speaker 1: join him. That's what leadership is. It's not about getting

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Speaker 1: guys like Ben roethlisbergers of my mind that everybody's got

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Speaker 1: to follow me and do what I say and be

834
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Speaker 1: and do you know my bidding. A more effective leadership

835
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Speaker 1: attitude is like Josh Allen and when Jim Kelly did,

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm with you. You come join me. We're

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00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: gonna do this together. I'm your guy. I'm gonna do

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00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: everything I can. And there I've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm the quarterback. I'm gonna do everything I

840
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: can help me out here. Let's go do it together.

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00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: That's a much more effective attitude and leadership. And he

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00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: acted that way, he spoke that way, he lived that way.

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Speaker 1: He still does and Josh seems to be the same way.

844
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: Seems like he really wants to win really badly. In fact,

845
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: I think at some point, to his detriment, he tries

846
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: to do it himself, you know, a little too much.

847
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: I think he tries to make the tough throw all

848
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Speaker 1: the time. He tries to win the game on every play,

849
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: and when all you want to do is you put

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Speaker 1: yourself one more step closer to winning the game on

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Speaker 1: every play, you know what I'm saying. So I think

852
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Speaker 1: as a young guy, he's got that to learn. But yeah,

853
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you. He has done some phenomenal stuff.

854
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: I like his attitude, I like his competitiveness, and in

855
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Speaker 1: a lot of ways, I see nothing but good things

856
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Speaker 1: about him in that respect. We're gonna talk to Rich

857
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Speaker 1: Gannon about this topic. Longtime NFL quarterback now with the

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Speaker 1: NFL on CBS. He's coming up next. Come on back.

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Speaker 1: It is One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and

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Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello, il S Radio Network

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Speaker 1: Sports Date the update from One Bill Drive. Police in

862
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: Florida have charged New England Patriots owner Bob Kraft with

863
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: misdemeanors solicitation of prostitution. They say they have video of

864
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Speaker 1: him paying for a sex stack inside an illegal massage parlor.

865
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Speaker 1: He's seventy seven years old. Police in Jupiter, Florida, say

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Speaker 1: he has not been arrested, but a warrant will be issued.

867
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Speaker 1: The charge comes amid a widespread crackdown on sex trafficking

868
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Speaker 1: in the area around Palm Beach County, Florida. In a statement,

869
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: a spokesperson for Crafts say they canategorically deny the Craft

870
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Speaker 1: engaged in any illegal activity and they will issue no

871
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: further comment. A shocker a stunner from the National Football

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00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: League Broncos quarterback Case Keenom says he was shocked by

873
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: the trade for Joe Flacco last week. He says he

874
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Speaker 1: plans on competing for the starting quarterback job in Denver. Says,

875
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: I was definitely shocked. It was a surprise and for

876
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Speaker 1: the first day or so, especially the trade for Joe

877
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: Flaccos may sing of the end of Keenom's run as

878
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos starting quarterback. While state quarterback Dwayne Haskins will

879
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: officially throw at next week's NFL scouting combine. Previously, he

880
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: said he would participate in all drills which the combine

881
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: starts next week in Indie, mel hyper As Haskins his

882
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: number five on his big board. Patriots safety Devin mccordy,

883
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: who said he might retire at the Patriots on the

884
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, we'll be back for a tenth season in Florida.

885
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: He's an eight time Patriots captain. He is thirty one

886
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: years old. Savers have lost four in a row. Last night,

887
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: they lost two to one in Tampa Bay to the

888
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: Lightning in a shootout. Rasmuss Donaling scored his seventh goal

889
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: of the season for Buffalo. Carter Hutton made thirty nine saves.

890
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: Next up the home game tomorrow one pm against the

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00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: Washington Capitals at key Bank Center. College basketball three teams

892
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: locally in action. Tonight. The ub Balls, ranked twenty fifth

893
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: in the country, home to play Kent State, the middle

894
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: game of a three game homestand the game also televised

895
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: on ESPN two tonight seven o'clock from Alumni Arena. Buffalo's

896
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: won twenty three straight games at home Cannsius on the road.

897
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Speaker 1: They'll be on National TV tonight on ESPNU when they

898
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: play at Monmouth. The griff saw their three game win

899
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: streak end over the weekend and the Purple Legals of

900
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: Niagara on the road at Ryder today at Ryder University

901
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: their final road swing of the year. And that's the

902
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Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy Steve Tasker in

903
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: our one Buffalo studio joined now by one of our

904
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: favorite guests, longtime NFL on CBS commentator, works on Steve's crew.

905
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: He is a former NFL quarterback for seventeen seasons with Minnesota, Washington,

906
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: Kansas City in Oakland, NFL MVP. In two thousand and two,

907
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: Happid Average Gannon on the line with US high Rich

908
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: John Murphy and your buddy Steve task Upper in Buffalo.

909
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: Murphys and just for the record, I know you, Just

910
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: for the record, I worked on your crew. I just

911
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's toughness, it's a termination, but more importantly

912
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: open the team. Guys. Was awesome Steve task because it

913
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: was a it was a privilege. Yeah. Well, let me

914
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: tell you bring me to a good point about being

915
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: a teammate. Have you We've been talking about in Roethlisberger

916
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: and the heat he's taken in Pittsburgh, about the kind

917
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Speaker 1: of leader he is or is not. Certainly he's a

918
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: great player. You know that as well as I do. Rich,

919
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: What do you make of this criticism being leveled at

920
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: him from some of his teammates about how he's treated

921
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: differently inside the building? Well, look, I think he's a

922
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: terrific player's team, as you point out, And just because

923
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: you're a great player doesn't mean you'dn't get better at

924
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: your crap. And that seems not just on the field

925
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: in terms of the mechanics and appointing the position, but

926
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: also at these off the field in terms of how

927
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: you feel your teammates. I think I got better at

928
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: that as I got further along on my career, at

929
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: a better understanding of the younger players. I think at

930
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: times had a better temperament. But I think you know

931
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: you've been on good teams. A lot of the inn

932
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Speaker 1: house stuff stays in house. If there's disagreements or there's arguments,

933
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: if there's a point of contention, I think it's the

934
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Speaker 1: best handle in the locker room at best hamplon the

935
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Speaker 1: coaching staff and the players and not let it get

936
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Speaker 1: outside the building. And I think what happened in Pittsburgh

937
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: this year start him at Leva Bell and then of course,

938
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: uh with you know, obviously Antonio Brown late in the season.

939
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: See you and I did that game in week seventeen

940
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: and he didn't play, and that was Look, they were fortunately,

941
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: you know, they're fortunate to win that game, and they

942
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: set off to really slow starting. I think a big

943
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: reason why it didn't have Antonio Brown the field. So

944
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: you hate the most good players, but this is the

945
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: ultimate team game, and my sense is that he was

946
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: becoming a major distraction. But in hindsight, looking back, you know,

947
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: you hate hate when it gets outside the building and

948
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: hate when it makes him to the front, you know,

949
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: front page of the of the morning paper that there

950
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Speaker 1: are issues and problems within the ranks of the team.

951
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: Did just surprise you that the general manager rushed to

952
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: Ben's defense even though Ben, yeah, right, look, look he's

953
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, he's won, he's won multiple Super Bowls. I

954
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: think he's clearly, uh, you know, a Hall of Fame quarterback.

955
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, I think when they

956
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: looked under the hood, they realized that more of the

957
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: issues were with and Sonio Brown. And look, this goes

958
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: back when Todd Hailey was there, the offensive coordinator. I mean,

959
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, he went ballistic on the sideline like he's

960
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: an emotional player. But you know, at that position, Stephen,

961
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: you know better than I do because you played it.

962
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: But I mean it's a you know, I knew a

963
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: fortunate because you played with someone felt like you know,

964
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: Andre Reich, James Flopan and some of these guys. I

965
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: think they're the exception rather than the rule. I think

966
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: when you look at um, you know, some of the

967
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: premium talents Odell Beckham Jr. And other guys that you

968
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: you know, have had issues at that position. When it

969
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: becomes more about them and their catches and their production,

970
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, let's about winning, then I think you've got

971
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: him that you've got an issue. I think Antonio Brown

972
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: is a phenomenal player. He works hard, I get all that,

973
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: But when it's it's it's just if it's more about

974
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: him and less about the team winning championships, then you's

975
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: gotta then you're gonna nip it in the bud. Hey, Rich,

976
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: Steve and I were talking last hour about Kevin Colbert

977
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: the GMS. I guess defensive Roethlisberger or sticking up for him,

978
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: and you know he kind of went over the top.

979
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: I thought talking about fifty two other guys have to

980
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: follow him. He's the lead. You know. He restated that

981
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: point over and over again. And yet the more we

982
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: talked about and talking about it, I thought, what else

983
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: could the GM do? Right? You can't just walk away

984
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: from Roethlisberger at this point, that would be disaster. Well,

985
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: I think they've already started looking at the future. I mean,

986
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: I think that they've tried to friends not getting any younger.

987
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: He's taking a lot of hits over these years are

988
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: too old. At some point he may just decide to

989
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: go play play joff in the all season and not

990
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: play football. And I think that each draft, in talking

991
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: to Kevin, I think they've actively been very active participants

992
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: looking for that that future at the quarterback position. Now

993
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: they haven't stepped up to use the first round pick

994
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: on it, but at some point they probably will. But

995
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: I think they feel like he's got a couple of

996
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: good years left in him, there's another super Bowl to

997
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: be had. From from a Steelers perspective, I think it's

998
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: about surrounding him a great player. The one thing I

999
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: like about the Steelers guys, he really goes back with

1000
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots too. Um. They just they're not big on

1001
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: drafting receivers in the first round. I don't say they'd

1002
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: be value that position, but I didn't. They feel like

1003
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: they can get some really good quality players in the

1004
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: third and fourth round and bring him into that program

1005
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: and that's stem and train him the right way and

1006
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: get production at him as opposed to saying the first round.

1007
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: So there are another team that's just going to be

1008
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: very active in free agency when it comes to that position.

1009
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: They're not going to see a guy thirty or forty

1010
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: million dollars to playing wide receiver. And I think that's

1011
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: why they were you know, they were able to move

1012
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: on from Lady on Bello. I mean, I think it's

1013
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: all about the team in Pittsburgh. How would you have

1014
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: handled this situation with Antonio Brown if you were Ben Roethlisberger,

1015
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: what would you have done differently than he did? Well,

1016
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: it's hard to specularly see because I wasn't in the

1017
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 1: locker room. I know that I played with the guys

1018
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: that were really tough to play with. I play with

1019
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: Chris Carter in the Hall of Famer and Clay Frankly

1020
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: and all the years that I played, he was probably

1021
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: the hardest guy ever had to deal with. As good

1022
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: as he was. He was, I don't know if there's

1023
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: other way to put it. He was a pretty selfish guy.

1024
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: Was he was very he was very concerned about him

1025
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: and his numbers and things like that and so. But

1026
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: I also played with play cart Mark and Tim Brown

1027
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: and they weren't that way. So um, I think the

1028
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: best thing to do is have conversations with them on

1029
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: the practice field, have conversations within the locker room and

1030
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: the way room. Just trying to develop a relationship with

1031
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: a trust factors so important that you trust one another.

1032
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: And I think when you when you have the trust factors,

1033
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: whether it's with the coaches or players, then you can

1034
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: you can. You know, I didn't have better relationships, And

1035
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: I'm not suggested that the relationship wasn't a good at

1036
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: the saying I think it was strange. I think there

1037
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: was some instance that happened. We heard about the instant

1038
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: seed of the week we were there that on the

1039
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: practice field there was a football the stone that's at

1040
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: during the walking crew and and at I think Antonio

1041
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: through a band or been through the instant I can't

1042
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: probably remember now, but it's you know, he left the

1043
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: practice field, didn't practice you know, and then of course

1044
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: there was said that they were resting him on Wednesday,

1045
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: didn't practice on Thursday, But we didn't get the straight

1046
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: scoop from from you know, Mike Common, and now sudden

1047
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: we find out on Sunday they's not gonna play it.

1048
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: Fact decide, even addressed any lead leave the field at halftime.

1049
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: So to meet at the distracts. When you have a

1050
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: distracted you don't handle it from a football perspective, it

1051
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: can linger and become a big issue for your football team,

1052
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: which Cannon pleat seventeen seasons in the NFL, four pro

1053
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: bowled appearances. One more question I have on the Steelers. Rich.

1054
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: We've talked about the Steelers all week, Steve and I

1055
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: you just mentioned about the way Tomlin handled the last

1056
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: week of the season. I can't help but think that

1057
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: this whole mess that am in Pittsburgh is really Mike

1058
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: Tomlin's job to straighten out. I'd said here and Steve

1059
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: played on some pretty tough Bill's teams that had some issues,

1060
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: and Marv Levy did whatever he could to keep that

1061
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: group together, to keep things, you know, under wraps when

1062
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: they didn't want stuff public. That's unfortunately I would admit.

1063
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: In the NFL, that's part of what the head coach's

1064
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: job is, right to manage all these outside egos, and

1065
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if Tomlin's done that there. I think

1066
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: if you really sat down with Mike Tomlin and he's

1067
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: about an honest the guy to deal with, if there

1068
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: is in that position that I think, you know, um,

1069
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: maybe not a production meeting, but I think he would

1070
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: share with you that in hindsight, maybe you could have

1071
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: done something differently. You look, it's hard to manage, you know,

1072
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: fifty three different players and personalities and it can be

1073
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 1: a challenge. And I think that you know, Bell Belichick

1074
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: does it as well as anybody, but he also has

1075
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: those Super Bowls and the cred to be able to

1076
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: do it. And you know Tomlin does as well. He's

1077
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: won one Super Bowls. But I think the challenge with

1078
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: him is just being consistent, right. I think when you

1079
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: when you're consistent, whether whether players a ten year veteran

1080
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: or you know, second year player, they were consistent with

1081
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: our rules and an instruction and discipline that we have

1082
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: with in the organization and just for whatever reason, you know,

1083
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, it just was the more production he had,

1084
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: it just seemed like it became more and more of

1085
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: a challenge to manage and to monitor his situation. Rich

1086
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: I got one last thing for me. I gotta ask you,

1087
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: do you think at the end of that season? You're right,

1088
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: we did them in Week seventeen. And this is a

1089
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: Steelers team, in my opinion particular, if you put Levy

1090
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: on Bell on that squad with Antonio Brown, Ben Roethlisberger,

1091
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: the offensive line they have and the defense that they

1092
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: put on the field, does this mess this all this

1093
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: drama that surrounded the Steelers that kept them not only

1094
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs, but for me, kept them from

1095
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: being a team that would go deep into the play

1096
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're a super Bowl championship team, but man,

1097
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: oh man, you talk about underachieving. This drama really was

1098
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: the thing that hamstrung their entire ability to be successful

1099
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: even get to the playoffs. You're right, Steve, I think

1100
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: that if they would they would have gotten into the playoffs.

1101
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: I think it's been very interesting because they were kind

1102
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: of humming a little bit on offense with Antonio Brown,

1103
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 1: and of course, you know, James Connor was getting healthy

1104
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: again and he was back rolling and so you know, look,

1105
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: if Cleveland would have beaten Baltimore in Week seventeen, of

1106
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: course Pittsburgh did what they had to do, they beat

1107
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at home. Then you know, the Steelers would have

1108
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: won the division and of course been in the playoffs,

1109
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: and I think it would have been interesting. I'm not

1110
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: suggesting that they would have been able to go win

1111
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: the sin Blob, but they they've matched up and the

1112
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: played the pages up over the years, and it's you know,

1113
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: it's one of those would have could have showed a

1114
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: type of things. But they were good enough. I think

1115
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: they were playing better defensively in the second half of

1116
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: the season to do some damage in the postseason. Hey, Rich,

1117
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: last thing before we let you go, and all of

1118
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: our quarterback discussions here in Buffalo, certainly we all have

1119
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in the back of our mind. Do you

1120
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: have any observations on what you saw from Josh Allen's

1121
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: rookie year, both in terms of the leadership component that

1122
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: we've talked about in just in terms of play, what

1123
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: did you think. I think he has a lot of

1124
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: the intangibles that you really like at that position. I

1125
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: think he's got some toughness, I think he's got some

1126
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: aggressiveness to him. I think he's a smart player. I

1127
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: think he can make plays outside the pocket with his legs,

1128
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, clearly. I think he gained a lot of

1129
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: experience in year one. I think he gained the trust

1130
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: and the respect and the confidence really as a teammates

1131
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: from the coaching staff. I think we usually see a

1132
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: lot of progress from year one the year two with quarterbacks.

1133
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 1: I think it's a positive that the Bills aren't changing

1134
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: offensive coordination systems once again. I think these opportunities to

1135
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: do with Brian Table is going to help him the

1136
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: solf season. I think we just look back at his

1137
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: body of work. He's got to get better. I think

1138
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: trusting his feet, being a little bit more quieter in

1139
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: the pocket, He's going through the progressions and the reefs

1140
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: and not being so quick to pull it down times

1141
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: because he you know, he knows he can run with

1142
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: the football. But I think completion percentage is something that

1143
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: has to improve significantly. I think the decision making, especially

1144
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: in third down and those type of situations that touchdown

1145
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: intercepts in ratio wasn't very good. But look, you know,

1146
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: I think he played him as a young team at

1147
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: developed a team on offense. An offense. I think that's

1148
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: going to get better when they addrest the missions, especially

1149
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: well on the offensive line. I think they've got to

1150
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: be able to rely on a more consistent running game

1151
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: and add some more playmakers. Steve and I talked about,

1152
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, the depth at the wide receiver position, and

1153
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: now not only the wide receivers but now the pet

1154
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: in positions. So they've got to get better around him.

1155
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: I think they'll do that, But I think there's a

1156
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: lot to life when you're really studying his game. He's

1157
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: got to be a little bit a little bit more

1158
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: judicious when he runs the football and protecting himself. In

1159
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: my opinion, he took way too many unnecessary hits last

1160
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: year in Buffalo. Yeah, probably right, Rich, Thanks Rich, guys

1161
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: are the best. Thanks man, rich Gannon seventeen seasons quarterback

1162
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL, four Pro bowled appearances, two Pro Bowl MVPs,

1163
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: and League's MVP. In two thousand and two, Rich joined

1164
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: us on the Subway Fresh State Highline presented by Subway

1165
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: Restaurants proud to be locally owned and operated. Yeah, Rich

1166
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: isn't take no prisoners kind of leader too. You know

1167
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: he's he's certainly. The thing that sets him apart is

1168
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: the fact that, like you say, he was, like he said,

1169
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: you gotta be unselfish. Rich didn't care whether he handed

1170
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: it off twenty five times or had to throw fifty

1171
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: times either one. UM, he wanted to win and he

1172
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: appreciated guys who were that way. And I think that's

1173
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: what makes guys credible in the in the in the

1174
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: in the huddle. As you can tell, he played with

1175
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: Chris Carter and he said he was really tough to

1176
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: deal with because he was always worried about getting his k.

1177
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: He wanted the ball, no matter what the situation, no

1178
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: matter what whether it's best or not. UM, he wanted

1179
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: the football. And Rich was one of those guys that

1180
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: certainly was willing to do just about anything to win

1181
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: and put the hours and the ground it out in

1182
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: order to do that. And that gave him a lot

1183
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 1: of credibility. I think with the Raiders late in his career,

1184
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: his ability to do that, you guys have a you're

1185
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: gonna laugh, but you have a really strong broadcast. I

1186
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: love Kevin Harland loved him for years. Kevin's a rock star.

1187
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: He's unbelievable. He does everything and he's really good. You

1188
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: do a great job on the sidelines. But among the

1189
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: many good things about your CBS team is Rich Gannon's honesty.

1190
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: I always get the sense like he doesn't care if

1191
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: he's making friends. He's he's out here and there was

1192
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: who is it, Matthew Stafford. He was blasted earlier this year.

1193
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: He did he doesn't care if he makes friends. That

1194
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: he thinks he's being honest and yes, and even if

1195
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: it is his own opinion, he'll tell you it's his

1196
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: own opinion. But he feels and he'll tell you why

1197
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: he feels that way. And and a lot of us

1198
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: and me included, it's hard to go out there and

1199
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: rank a guy over the coals, because you know how

1200
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: hard it is to play. Yeah, but rich has an

1201
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: expectation of excellence and he holds guys to that, even

1202
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: in his analyst job, and it's he's good at it.

1203
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: I agree with you, he's um. I'm glad he's doing it,

1204
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: and I'm on the sidelines for him. You know, you

1205
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: got a different assignment. I got a different job talking

1206
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks and what type of leader do you want

1207
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: at quarterback? You've got phone lines open if you'd like

1208
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: to discuss eight oh three five fifty and toll free

1209
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. What

1210
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: type of leader do you want? Do you want? Do

1211
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: you need a guy who yells and you know, slaps

1212
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: butts and encourages people. Do you need a guy who? Look?

1213
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: I think you you can speak to this more than

1214
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: I can see. Sometimes some of the best leaders are

1215
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: the guys who are quiet, right, and just go out

1216
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 1: and do their job, play well, show you that they're

1217
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: playing well, show you how hard they work at it,

1218
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: and keep their mouth shut. Right, That could be a

1219
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: good leader. Oh. Absolutely, But also I mean you're you're

1220
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: living in a world where you got fifty three guys.

1221
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: You want to get to know those guys. If you're

1222
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: a quiet guy, you don't you don't know, But you

1223
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: gotta open up and you gotta have a guy. And

1224
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 1: the most effective leaders are the ones you the guys

1225
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: know really well, feel like they know really well. You

1226
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: don't have any secrets, you don't have any hidden agendas,

1227
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: you don't have some sort of uh, you don't have

1228
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: any anything that you're keeping the team or that's against

1229
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: the team's best interest if you want to, I'll give

1230
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: you an example. If you've got an incentive that you've

1231
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: got so many interceptions and the team tries to throw

1232
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: a seventy yard pass on fourth and fourteen and you

1233
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: intercept instead of just knocking it down, that's not good

1234
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: for the team. You know, that kind of thing. That's

1235
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: a selfish play. So it's you know, it's an easy example.

1236
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: But when guys trust you that you are all about

1237
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: winning and you're you don't care if your role is

1238
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: big or large, or if you look good or if

1239
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: you look bad. If the team wins, and you're happy,

1240
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: genuinely happy, Listen, there's you're in. They're gonna play hard

1241
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: for you, they're gonna pull for you, they're gonna help

1242
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: you be better. They're gonna, you know, expect you to

1243
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: help them be better. They're gonna be unselfish with you.

1244
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: It's just it works that way, and I don't give you.

1245
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: I think I'll give you another example. Murph. Coaches are

1246
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: the same way. Every time a coach gets up in

1247
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: front of a media and he has turmoil or stripe

1248
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: on his team, invariably they come out and they spin

1249
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: it to the positive, or or they defer it, or

1250
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: or they just telling it out and out lie to

1251
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: the media, and we all know they're not telling the truth,

1252
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: but they're doing it so that their players don't have

1253
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: to deal with a big issue. If he says something

1254
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: in the media, the media will run to the player

1255
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: and say, hey, he said this about you, what do

1256
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: you say about him? And then all of a sudden,

1257
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: you're in an argument without even being able, without even

1258
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: having to discussed it. It's group dynamics at his best.

1259
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: You're not included in the group. I'm sorry, And that's

1260
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: what the media is. They're not included in the group.

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01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: They can only be a detriment to the love and

1262
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: respect in the locker room by going to he said,

1263
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: she said, what do you think about this? Don't you

1264
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: feel that that quarterback should have thrown it to you

1265
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: on that play? That kind of stuff, it's detrimental to

1266
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: the good of the team. That's why you get guys

1267
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: standing up in front of the media doing what they do.

1268
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: They're good team players. They're not going to throw members

1269
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: their team under the bus. Hey, what do you think

1270
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: what type of leader do you want in your quarterback?

1271
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: Give us a call the phone nine is open, or

1272
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: we can discuss from the tweet sheet. Brian Cook tweets this,

1273
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: and leadership at the quarterback position is like math skills

1274
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: to a physicist. It's required, he says. He's right, he

1275
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: says as to the type, good leaders adapt to the

1276
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: situation at hand. Sometimes insteady hand is required. Others fire

1277
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,479
Speaker 1: and fury. Good leaders no when to use the carrot

1278
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: and when to use the stick. Very good points, all

1279
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: of them from a Bran Cook, very much so. But

1280
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: it's got to be who you are. I mean, if

1281
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: you've got to do it within the scope of your

1282
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: own personality. Some guys are really good at some of

1283
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: that and some guys are really bad at some of that,

1284
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: and it's a mix and a great team. If you've

1285
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: got a quarterback that's good at some of it, not

1286
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: good at others, you hope you've got some other prominent

1287
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: player on your team that is good at it, and

1288
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: he'll take over in that spot. And that works very well.

1289
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: It worked very well on teams that I was on,

1290
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: and I've seen it work others well for other teams too.

1291
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: So it's a group and different guys can lead at

1292
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: different moments, and if they have the same love and

1293
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: respect and you know, and fish nature. That's the rest

1294
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: of the guys. The quarterback does. He can certainly step

1295
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: into that role for a given moment, and it works

1296
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: well that way. The Steelers situation is what brought this

1297
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: up as a show topic today. We've been talking about

1298
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: the Steelers for a couple of weeks. When Antonio Brown

1299
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: says Roethlisberger acts like he's an owner calling out the teammates.

1300
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: I think he has a point there, Steve, I really do.

1301
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: And I look, I'm not endorsing what he did at

1302
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: the end of the year, you know, backing out from

1303
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: his team at the end of the year, but I

1304
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: think it's a legitimate point. You right, no matter how

1305
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: strong a leader you are, even if you're the only

1306
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: guy there who's played in a Super Bowl, as Kevin

1307
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: Colbert at the GEM pointed out, even if you're the

1308
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: unquestioned leader of the team. Is Colbert pointed out, you

1309
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: can't go too far. You can't go too far and

1310
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: calling here's the thing, And I think it got to

1311
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: the point for Antonio Brown and obviously some of those

1312
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: other players. Not only was Ben being difficult to deal

1313
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: with at the same time he was openly being rewarded

1314
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: for it by coaches and or management and the player,

1315
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: and then the guys revolting. You got guys walking off

1316
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: the reservation for the forget it if you're if he's

1317
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: gonna act like that and you're gonna tell him it's okay,

1318
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: I am done. And for a guy who has hit

1319
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: the home run with his contract, he doesn't have you know,

1320
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: he he's listen, he's pay made a pile of I

1321
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: now have to put up with this. I'm he's a

1322
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: great player. He's given him nine years of his career

1323
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: and by every single account, has worked extremely hard and

1324
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: made a great teammate, exceeded no questions, exceeded expectations. He's like,

1325
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: listen this. He stood up and said, hey, that's wrong,

1326
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna do I'm not gonna be a

1327
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: part of it. That took a lot of courage for him. Now,

1328
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: there's no question there are more professional and adult ways

1329
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: to handle it than Antonio Brown did by throwing kind

1330
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: of a public tantrum. But nevertheless, you can understand the

1331
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: reasoning behind it. Don't you wonder how much of any

1332
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: of this um contributes to Livian Bell's situation. I know

1333
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: his money, but you wonder if in the back of

1334
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: his mind he's thinking that I need I want more money,

1335
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,439
Speaker 1: don't need it, I want more money, And I don't

1336
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: know if I want to go back there and have

1337
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: this guy this uh, you know, false owner criticized me,

1338
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: maybe publicly, you know, call me out, you know what

1339
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean. I wonder there's no evidence to that, But no,

1340
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: I think this started long. I think this. I think

1341
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: Levion Bell this situation. His situation is, you know, a

1342
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: couple of years. It's nice, it's it's all about the money.

1343
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: It's all about the contract situation. And I think before

1344
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: this season, if Levion Bell had come back to the

1345
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,479
Speaker 1: Steelers this year and played for the for the franchise tag,

1346
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: they would have run the football twice as much as

1347
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: they did. I'm exactly, I'm guessing, but they would have

1348
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: given Levion Bell four hundred carries this year. They would

1349
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,919
Speaker 1: have used him up. And he wants to be fresh

1350
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: and ready to play for a new contract and get

1351
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: more money down the road. And he just feels like

1352
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been ready to do that had he

1353
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: played for the franchise tag and they'd given him the

1354
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: money and used him up for four hundred carries. Because

1355
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: you look at cross history, guys who have carried the

1356
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: ball a lot like that amount in a season, they

1357
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: were sometimes never the same after that. So he's he

1358
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: did what he thought was best. I don't think it

1359
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: had any as much to do with Ben Roethlisberg's that

1360
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: did just about the zeros on the county track. Call

1361
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: here from Pat on the line. Hello, Pat, welcome, Hey,

1362
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: how are you guys doing? That's good Pat. The thing

1363
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: that got me about Josh and it was one specific play.

1364
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: It was pick six he threw late in the season.

1365
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: The way he won after that guy who picked off

1366
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: the ball and tried to tackle him. It reminded me

1367
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: so much of Kelly. Yeah, there's the days one Kelly.

1368
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: You know, unnecessarily roughness by tacker on the guy out

1369
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: of Moms. This guy fits Buffalo, Yeah, Kyler, he's gritty.

1370
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure I'd like a higher percentage of

1371
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: completions and stuff like that, but he really does fit Buffalo.

1372
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: And as far as Pittsburgh, you know, Toty criticized people,

1373
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: yeah on his offensive line, and management held it. You know,

1374
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: they weren't after and they said, Jim, you can't do this,

1375
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: and Steve, you correct me if I'm wrong. So you know,

1376
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: part of that as guys will be back to the

1377
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: culture in Pittsburgh. That's right, you're right, and that's what. Yeah,

1378
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: And Jim, Jim did, I mean, he called out Howard

1379
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: Ballard and nine. It was eighty eight or eighty nine

1380
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: we had. We were the bickering Bills in nineteen eighty nine,

1381
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: and largely it was because of Jim's inability to be

1382
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: a good teammate. He was, he was had some growing

1383
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: pains to do. And luckily we had some other guys

1384
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: on the team who were just as strong and just

1385
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: as great a player at they're in their own right

1386
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,560
Speaker 1: to stand up and say you ain't doing that, you

1387
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: ain't doing that, And they were backed by the head

1388
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: coach and the GM, Marv lev and Bill Polly, and

1389
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: those guys came to Jim and said, listen, you gotta

1390
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: you better start being a better teammate. You can't do that,

1391
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: and U and Jim, to his credit, listen and and

1392
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 1: by the way, it's worth pointing out the different approach

1393
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, where the general manager says, oh yeah, he

1394
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 1: can speak out about it against his teammates. He can

1395
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: say what he wants. I'm talking about Roth's. That's totally

1396
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: different approach. That's totally different approach, totally different. And I'll

1397
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,560
Speaker 1: tell you what they had that meeting, and for the

1398
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: remainder of those three games in nineteen eighty nine, we

1399
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: won one of them. We needed. If we won all three,

1400
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: we were in the playoffs. And I think if we

1401
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 1: won two out of the three, we're in the playoffs

1402
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: for sure. And we won one out of the three

1403
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: games that remained on our schedule, and we got some

1404
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: help and still made it into the playoffs, and it

1405
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: ended up being nineteen eighty nine. We lost on a

1406
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: wildcard round in Cleveland at the end of the Jets

1407
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: in the finale, and that got us into the playoffs

1408
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: with some help that last three games of that season.

1409
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: After they had had that meeting where Bill and Bill

1410
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: Poleon Marv Levy had told Jim say, listen, we're not

1411
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: gonna be that. You're not gonna allow to let you

1412
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: do that. You know, uh, you can't be that kind

1413
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: of teammate. And Jim listened to him, and you could

1414
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 1: feel the difference in the locker room, Well, wasn't their

1415
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: tension was Oh my gosh, yes, okay, it was different

1416
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: on the field. It was different on the field. Jim

1417
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: started cheering for Bruce. He started appreciating the player Bruce was,

1418
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: and Bruce reciprocated. They started, you know, they then they

1419
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: did do what you say, slapping hyghineese and and and

1420
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: cheering for each other. When they the moment they started

1421
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: cheering for each other, everything changed for that team. And

1422
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: at the end of that game, I'm telling you this,

1423
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: if if Ronnie catches that ball in the corner in Cleveland,

1424
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: we are tough to beat. How did that happen that

1425
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: they started cheering for each other. They had they had

1426
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: that meeting and we're just talking about they got together,

1427
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: they had a few pops together, they realized neither one

1428
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: of yeah, yeah, they I don't know if it was

1429
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: a meeting with all of them or whether it was

1430
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: piece meal, whether he had meeting with Marv, then him

1431
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: with but Bill, then him and Bruce got together. But

1432
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: I know this, Jim had Bruce. Jim and Bruce went out,

1433
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: had a few pops and became decided they were gonna

1434
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: be friends instead of enemies. And Cornelius Bennett was in

1435
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: there too, and and and them, yeah, and Darryl, all

1436
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: those guys. They decided, you know, well, we're in this together.

1437
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: And this was before free agency too, which was a

1438
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: huge boost because they knew, listen, we're not going anywhere.

1439
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: They're not letting us out of here our right, the

1440
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: bills have our rights, and we're not going anywhere. We

1441
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 1: may as well be buddies, so let's do it. So

1442
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: they just said they were. They were drinking buddies. And

1443
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: from that moment on, everything changed for all the guys

1444
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: like me down the line. And when those guys were happy,

1445
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: go lucky and having fun and cheering for each other,

1446
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: we were all in on it and and it changed everything.

1447
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: And that team went to four straight Super Bowls as

1448
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: a result. I keep thinking, and the caller mentioned it too,

1449
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: that there is a role that Mike Tomlin should have

1450
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: played already. They blew it. Now, they've completely blown it.

1451
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 1: Ben Benza sounds like he's out of control monster. Right. Yeah,

1452
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: he's like just does whatever he wants in that building,

1453
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: and everybody's got to fall in line. Everybody has to

1454
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: do whatever else they do and gets endorsed by them. Yeah,

1455
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 1: and I mean, I'll listen, two time winning Super Bowl

1456
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are hard to find. They don't just fall off

1457
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: the tree, and I get that. But they wasted these

1458
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 1: last couple of years of not getting into the playoffs

1459
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: and playing well because their leadership at the top of

1460
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: their roster, meaning Ben, has been ineffective. And that's that's

1461
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 1: on Ben, you know. I mean, I think, what do

1462
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: you think of the Steelers, how they've handled Roethlisberger, and

1463
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 1: what do you think of the leadership for quarterbacks in general?

1464
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: What do you want in a leadership profile from your quarterback?

1465
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: Including Josh Allen Phone lines open to discuss at eight

1466
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free from outside Buffalo one eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Speaking of the Steelers, speaking of Colbert,

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01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: he went on NFROL Network today and said that three

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01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: teams have reached out about Antonio Brown acquiring him in

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01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: a trade. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Sure, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that. We'll talk about what we know about Bob Kraft.

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Speaker 1: We don't know much, but we'll give me an update

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: when we come back. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, one Bills

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01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: Live from one Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. John Murphy, Steve Tasker. One

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01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: goes like, Hey, we do not have a show next Monday. Yeah,

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01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: it's coming Monday, Real Hockey. You knew that Trade deadline

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01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: day in the NHL on Monday. Interesting, we don't have

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01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,799
Speaker 1: a show. The Instigators will be here for five hours

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01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: of trade speculation. Basically, we'll talk about all the trades

1481
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: being made that do not involve the Buffalo Sabers. I

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01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: don't think the Sabers are gonna do anything that. Yeah,

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01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: I know that's what they said on the way out

1484
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: to We'll see. So next Monday, it's ten am to

1485
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: three pm for the Instigators. Trade deadline Day in the NHL.

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01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: Next week, we've got some special shows coming up from

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01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, Indiana next Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

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01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: February twenty seven, February twenty eighth, March first, twelve noon

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01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: three pm from the I'm Bine. We'll be right there

1490
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: on Radio Row amid the Din and Hubbub talking to

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01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: NFL figures, lining up some of our guests. As we speak,

1492
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,919
Speaker 1: we're getting guys lined up to talk about the combine.

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01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 1: Some of the draft prospects down there, Bill say, have

1494
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: ten draft picks. So the combine coverage starts next Wednesday

1495
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 1: here on the show. Um, you're looking forward to that. See,

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01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna drive down to Indie up for that. We

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01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: got it down to a science here. I think it's

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01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: six and a half seven hours. That sound about right. Yeah,

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01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: I know, but you know what, if you're flying, it'll

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01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: take you six hours anyway, right start to finish, it

1501
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: will Yeah, but you and I could you and I

1502
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: could sit like away from Jay Harris or right, we

1503
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: have to sit right next to him now, I mean

1504
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: listening to him, it's like, yeah, leave us, leave us

1505
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: at the at the chick fil A and cherry Chick

1506
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: fil A is always an important part of the trip

1507
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: to Indie. Maybe less so now that we have one

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01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:57,440
Speaker 1: right around the corner. Um. There have been uh pullovers

1509
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: by Ohio State troopers that have been no, yes, really yes,

1510
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: no tickets. See I'm all up for that. No, I'm not.

1511
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: I was doing going to be dancing to get out

1512
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: of that ticket. Oh yeah, but it worked at any rate.

1513
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: I hope you joined us next Wednesday Thursday Friday. From

1514
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: the NFL Scouting combine the big news in the NFL today,

1515
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: It's a shocker. There's no question about that. Patriots owner

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01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: Bobcraft named is one of those involved in a prostitution

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01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: ring in Florida, but not the only one involved. Adam

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01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: Schefter sent on the ANSBAM the Craft is not the

1519
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: most famous person involved in this sting operation. Someone else

1520
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: whose name has not surfaced yet, better known than Bob Kraft.

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01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: His charge Craft is with misdemeanor solicitation or prostitution. Police

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01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: and Jupiter, Florida say they have videotape of him paying

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01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 1: for a sex act inside an illegal massage parlor. A

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01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: widespread crackdown on sex trafficking in Palm Beach County, Florida,

1525
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: they say about two hundred rest warrants have been issued

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01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: in recent days, more expected. A statement spokesperson for Bobcraft

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01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: says they quote categorically the night that mister Kraft was

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01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 1: engaged in any league electivity. Because it is a judicial matter,

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01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: they continue, we will not be commenting further. I mean, really,

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01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: we don't know a whole lot about this, so I'm

1531
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: reluctant to talk much about it. I think we're on

1532
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: the same page with that right, Certainly you can make

1533
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: and people do will make jokes about it. That seems

1534
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: to be the only place to go at this point,

1535
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 1: and I don't want to contribute to that. Right, it's

1536
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: not really a laughing matter. It's Bob Craft, it's patriots,

1537
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 1: you know how you feel about them. But um, human

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01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: trafficking is a serious thing, and this is a crime.

1539
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: This is a it's not something to laugh about it

1540
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: talk about listen. It's it's ugly. Yeah, it's ugly. And

1541
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,959
Speaker 1: when you and when you get into some of the specifics,

1542
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: it's coming out piece meal, of course, like it always

1543
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 1: does on social media, where you get little bits of

1544
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 1: pieces of whatever this reporter finds interesting or whatever that

1545
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 1: reporter finds interesting, and facts are not these are It's happening.

1546
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 1: It's real. It's not just some something that somebody made up.

1547
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 1: So u and it is ugly, so it's and the

1548
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: ripple effect is going to go far beyond the NFL

1549
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: sounds like whether wherever that whether wherever that means and

1550
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: whatever that leads to. It's been on and obviously an

1551
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: ongoing thing that it has been labeled as a sting

1552
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: operation that they had they knew something was going on.

1553
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: They checked it out and videoed and did all that,

1554
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: and they got a bunch of people, and Robert Kraft

1555
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: seems to be one of them. So we won't be

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01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 1: spending a whole lot of time on that. We certainly um,

1557
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: we'll deal with it when the stuff comes out, right,

1558
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it when when we know more about it.

1559
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: In the meantime, we're talking about quarterbacks and what it

1560
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: would take. What type of leader do you want at

1561
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback position for any team? Got phone lines open

1562
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: on this eighth fifty toll free one eight eight five

1563
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty, or you can send in something

1564
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 1: for our tweet sheet on Twitter. Wandering Jack sent this,

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01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: and leadership is ten amount great word. I need my

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01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: quarterback to be the face of the team, take blame

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01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: upon himself even when not at fault, and deflect raised

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01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: to his teammates. Has to get him guys faces when

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01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: it's warranted, but also be his guy's biggest cheerleader. You

1570
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: need a guy whose teammates want to battle with all

1571
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: good points, all good points, and I like this part

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01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: two from Wandering Jack. Take Blaine on himself even when

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01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: not at fault. That's important isn't to see publicly. Yeah,

1574
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, when stuff goes bad and say that's on me,

1575
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: my bad, even when you know and everybody who saw it,

1576
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: whatever the mistake was, knows that I can't blame him. Yeah.

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01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: Guys who do that, I think are appreciated right up

1578
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: for your guys. Yeah, And I'll give you an example.

1579
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: And one of my one of my good friends. I've

1580
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: known him for three decades now, maybe not almost three decades,

1581
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: Boomerius Hyson. And everybody knows who Boomer is. He's on

1582
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: radio in New York, he's on NFL today on CBS.

1583
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: He's a media guy now and has been for quite

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01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: some time. He was Money Night football analyst and a

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01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: really good quarterback, played for a number of football teams

1586
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: and was a great leader. He's one of the all

1587
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: time great examples of this. And there was an article

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01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: that came out and it talked about guys all the

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01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: way from Ryan fitz Patrick and Phil Simms, and of

1590
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: course Boomer was mentioned in it. One of the things. Again,

1591
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: all us here in Buffalo remember Frank Reich and he

1592
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: was a college teammate for Boomers Sias and Boomer was

1593
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback at Maryland University and because of an

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01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,560
Speaker 1: injury he couldn't play. So Frank Reich goes into the

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01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,560
Speaker 1: game and wins the game from Maryland like thirteen to

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01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: eight or whatever. Boomers Siason was genuinely so happy for

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01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 1: Frank and his family. Boomer took Frank's family out to dinner,

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01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: and Boomers at college. He didn't have any kind of money,

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01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: but he was so genuinely happy for Frank and his

1600
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: success that he took Frank's family out to dinner after

1601
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: Frank was the winning quarterback in his spot. Those kind

1602
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: of attributes aren't as easy to find as you might

1603
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: think they are. Leaders like that who are unselfish and

1604
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: genuinely happy for the success of others are hard to

1605
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: come by, particularly the position that does all it can

1606
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: for the people around it to pump that guy up

1607
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: with with hot air. For lack of a better term,

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01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, they're always somebody's always saying, yes, it's not

1609
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 1: your fault, No, you're the best, you're the great. You know,

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01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: it's a rock star mentality. And to have a guy

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01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: who's above all that and can see through it and no,

1612
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: you know, he has a greater responsibility than just for himself.

1613
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: Those guys are hard to find, particularly hard to find

1614
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: when you they've got to also be strong armed and

1615
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: mobile and highly intelligent, yeah, you know, and good being quarterback.

1616
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: They can't play, really, that's right now, and that's why,

1617
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, they tend to look for the guy who

1618
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: can play and then worry about the leadership stuff later.

1619
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: And you get guys like Ben Roethlisberger, you know, you

1620
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: get guys who like Ryan leaf Um. You get guys

1621
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: who are Jeff George, you know, Jay Cutler, guys who

1622
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: are multi multi faceted talent wise, but who aren't that

1623
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: great a leader. You know, teams don't play well around him. Now,

1624
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger has had a ton of success. He is

1625
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: a great quarterback. He's enormously gifted both in size and

1626
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: in accuracy and his ability to throw the football. And

1627
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 1: he's had an enormously successful run in Pittsburgh. But as

1628
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: it comes out now, at least late in his career,

1629
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: maybe it was different early in his career, but late

1630
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: in his career, some of that stuff for the people

1631
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: telling him it's not his fault and you're the greatest

1632
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: and it's not your you know, you don't have to

1633
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: take responsibility for that he started to listen to him

1634
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: a little too much. Sounds like what kind of a

1635
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 1: leader I wonder. I'm interested in your opinion on this.

1636
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: You believe Tom Brady is six time Super Bowl champion,

1637
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play. We have

1638
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: to we acknowledge that, as difficult as it may be,

1639
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 1: clearly a leader there. And I think in his case,

1640
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: Steve again outside looking into the Patriots organization, he probably

1641
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 1: gets most of his respect as a great leader by

1642
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 1: his work ethic, and that's important. I think you know

1643
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: the stories, the legendary of Brady's first one in last one,

1644
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: out out working everybody. Even when Brady had some career

1645
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: milestones in recent years, the stories came out about you

1646
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: just couldn't outwork him, and you couldn't outcompete him either

1647
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: no matter what it was, or drinking games even right,

1648
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: there was a story about something like that. But I

1649
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: do think there's other guys like this too, who I

1650
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: think have established themselves as strong leaders at quarterback because

1651
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: they just outwork people. They blow you away with how

1652
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: prepared they are. Peyton Manning was like this, maybe to

1653
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 1: a fault, right, but I wonder what you think Brady's

1654
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: leadership style. He's not a cheerleader. He's been described sometimes

1655
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 1: and people observe him sometimes as sort of a whiner

1656
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 1: when things don't go well, right, You've seen him kind

1657
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 1: of whine. He works the officials. Yeah, I think that

1658
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 1: even with his teammates. I think you've seen him, you know,

1659
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: drop past or something. He will he will whine about him,

1660
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: make his teammate look bad, I think. But I do

1661
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: think he's a strong leader. Obviously, you can't win that

1662
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: much and not be but maybe a different style. Not

1663
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: necessarily a raw, raw guy, but I think maybe his

1664
01:22:56,040 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: work ethic and his work habits make him an easy

1665
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: guy for his team needs to follow. What do you think?

1666
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: No question, he works hard and that's it's legendary that

1667
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: you know his hours and the things that he does

1668
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: to prepare himself. But I do think this too, I

1669
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 1: gotta be honest. I think he gets a lot of

1670
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: help from Bill Belichick. Early in his career, Belichick made

1671
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: it clear that Tom needed to be as much of

1672
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: a target for criticism within the building as everybody else.

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01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: And it's it's legendary now, Bill Belichick, they win there

1674
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,879
Speaker 1: on Mondays and they have a low light reel. Everybody

1675
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 1: on the team has their worst plays on there, or

1676
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: whatever the worst plays in the game are. They got

1677
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: him cut up, and they go over that first thing

1678
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: on Monday morning. After the game, they come out and

1679
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: they win and they beat the Bills whatevert thirty seven

1680
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: twenty three or thirty seven twenty four or whatever that

1681
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: scort might be. They come in and all Belichick does,

1682
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 1: he starts with Tom Brady at the top and says,

1683
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: this is a horrible throw, This is a horrible decision.

1684
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: Your foot works wrong here. You should have checked out

1685
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: of this here and gone to this. We told you this.

1686
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: He just cuts him up. So everybody else in that

1687
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: room sees the greatest quarterback of all time being the

1688
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: whipping boy for the head coach. Where do they think

1689
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: they're going to get away with? Right? And then they

1690
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: also see him working as hard as he works. That

1691
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: sets the culture. But it all comes down to a

1692
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: head coach picking a guy at quarterback or having a

1693
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 1: guy at quarterback who he has communicated hey, listen, you're

1694
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: not gonna like it, but you're gonna get You're gonna

1695
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 1: get ripped. And because I know if I rip you,

1696
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: nobody else is going to step out a line. That's

1697
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,799
Speaker 1: part of your role as quarterback of the New England Patriots.

1698
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna be the first guy criticized, not the last.

1699
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: And because of that, the entire roster is like, well,

1700
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: if he's taken it like he's taken it, I'm going

1701
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: to do my best not to ever earn a ripping.

1702
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to do my best not to

1703
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 1: get there. And that's the culture that they have there

1704
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: in New England. And Tom Brady, if you want to

1705
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: talk about how he's gifted, Yeah, he works hard, but

1706
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: I think his biggest gift is his ability to sit

1707
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: there and take criticism from inside the building. Who was

1708
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: the hardest working teammate you ever had? Probably Bruce really yeah,

1709
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: Andrea was right there. Yeah, he didn't like anybody, not

1710
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,600
Speaker 1: It did a little bit, but listen, Bruce was a

1711
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: very He didn't take any days off. He might have

1712
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: not taken a practice off, he didn't take a day off. Um,

1713
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 1: Jim was hard working, Andrea was very hard working. Um,

1714
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: you know that it goes down from there. I mean,

1715
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: who else are you gonna be? Daryl? I mean, all

1716
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: the greatest players on that team were the hardest workers.

1717
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: That's why that team was great. It wasn't. It wasn't

1718
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,560
Speaker 1: because of role players playing special teams. Believe me. It

1719
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: was those guys, all right. It was those guys. Thurman Thomas.

1720
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: Let me tell you them. Thurman Thomas would take a

1721
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 1: pounding on Sunday. I would come back and you know,

1722
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: back in the day when I used to work out,

1723
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 1: which I don't anymore, you'd put on an old game

1724
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: tape and watch, you know, watch old games while you're

1725
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: on the elliptic goal or the treadmill or whatever I was.

1726
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: I was flabbergasted at the beating that Thurman took some games.

1727
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 1: I mean, just big hits, just on a normal four

1728
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: or five yard run at the end of it. You know,

1729
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 1: I'd never remember him taking it. In fact, the only

1730
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 1: days off Thurman took was when Marv or the training

1731
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: stuff saidn't listen, you need a day off. You're taking

1732
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: it down. He's like, well, you know, he'd never went

1733
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: in there winding about a day off. And Bruce, he

1734
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: was man when the lights man. Bruce wanted to play

1735
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: and he wanted to get ready. So that, yeah, the

1736
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: hardest working guys on our team were the were the

1737
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: Hall of famers, right, yeah, are you kidding me? Fourth

1738
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: round pick? How can you be a special teams guy?

1739
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 1: Fifth wide receiver on this club and then the L

1740
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 1: two on the kickoff and not like show up for work? Yeah,

1741
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: right right, because you had a Hall of Fame caliber

1742
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: guys doing it. It's that's the way it was. The

1743
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: most successful teams are all that way. We need a

1744
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: little bit of that on this show. Seriously, we need

1745
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: somebody to meet me, get on the StairMaster and kill

1746
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: it like we need somebody to set the tone for

1747
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: the rest of us workwise. A break here, we're coming

1748
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: back with more One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive.

1749
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Back of One Bill's Live.

1750
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: You see an outside shot of Orchard Parking a twelfth

1751
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 1: man the Administration building over sections twenty two, twenty two

1752
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: to twenty three. Seats still available new era, you're you're

1753
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: you're compelled to say that right now? Good, good seats

1754
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: still available? They are ye. Um. Let's take a phone

1755
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 1: call here as we talk about the quarterback leadership. Rich

1756
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: in Rochester, Hello, Rich, Welcome to the show. Hey, good

1757
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: to be on I've got the two questions for you guys.

1758
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: The first one is I kind of concede New England

1759
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: went in the division. My concern are the Jets in Miami.

1760
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: I think the Bills need to go three and one

1761
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: against them in order to get a wild card. But

1762
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: I don't hear much about them. What's going on with them?

1763
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: And how do they look to share the Dolphins and

1764
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: the Jets. Yes, Dolphins are a dumpster fire. We just

1765
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: did a The Dolphins are really struggling there. They don't

1766
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: have any Uh. Well, mndos Gera was with us Tuesday.

1767
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 1: We talked about he thinks that he thinks the Dolphins

1768
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 1: are a mess, and they're gonna and they're gonna try

1769
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: and be a mess until a quarterback comes up in

1770
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: the draft that they want. The Jets are another story.

1771
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 1: They're almost identical to the Buffalo Bills. They've got a

1772
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: lot of optimism. They had a pretty good defense um

1773
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: last year. Sam Darnold started to develop, and they think

1774
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: that they are gonna make a run at it with

1775
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. And they've also got more cap money to

1776
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: spend than the Buffalo Bills do. So the Bills will

1777
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: be in uh, con test with the Jets as to

1778
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: free agents and all that kind of thing. Now, I

1779
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: don't know that the Jets are in the market exactly

1780
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: for the same positions that the Buffalo Bills are. That

1781
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:13,520
Speaker 1: may be one of the things that makes them unidentical.

1782
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: But the Jets are a lot like the Bills. They

1783
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: think they they're looking for and expecting to take a

1784
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: big step forward this next year. I'm not Jets really

1785
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 1: why not. I don't think they're any good. I think

1786
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: the Bills have more talent than the time. Well I

1787
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 1: do too, but I still think that's what the expectations

1788
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 1: are for the Jets. I think they think Sam Darnold's

1789
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: going to be really, really good this next year. And

1790
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, he does have a receiver on

1791
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: his stable that is really good. Quincy and Noon was

1792
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: the real thing. He is a good player. So they've

1793
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: They've got Jamal Adams, a guy we spoke to at

1794
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, really a great player, good and he's

1795
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 1: got some leadership skills. He's the alpha dog in their

1796
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 1: locker room right now. With or without Sam Darnold, Jets

1797
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 1: scammy at all. Steve Adam Gas and the Jets, Yeah,

1798
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: see that's the thing too. Now. The reason they're not

1799
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,640
Speaker 1: identical too is that they got Adam Gaze. They got

1800
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: a new coach to break and yeah, Greg Williams says

1801
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. There there's a lot of things to

1802
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 1: think about the Jets. That White maybe you know, explode

1803
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: on the horizon. Yeah, before it really comes to its

1804
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: full potential, which you know, obviously Bill's fans were hoping for.

1805
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 1: But rich and Rochester is right about this. You can't

1806
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 1: split with the Dolphins and split with the Jets. They

1807
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 1: shouldn't have done it last year. This past season, they

1808
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: should have swept the Dolphins. Yeah, within the Jet one

1809
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: one to ten. And then you can lose to him

1810
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: at home. The reason they the reason you lost him

1811
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 1: at home is because you whooped him forty one to

1812
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 1: ten there. That can't happen. He's right, get four wins there.

1813
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 1: And I don't concede anything to the Patriots. And as

1814
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: we learned at eleven fifty today, things are happening quickly

1815
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 1: in patriot Land. Who knows, I don't know if this

1816
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 1: is the craft thing is an effect on the one

1817
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: lost record, but I don't concede anything to them, right,

1818
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean this. Look, we're not going to talk much

1819
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: about this. We don't know the details of what went

1820
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 1: on in Jupiter, Florida. But again, the Patriots in the

1821
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 1: middle of what has to be a distracting incident. It

1822
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 1: has to be distracting to have your owner under arrest.

1823
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 1: Distracting in February is one thing. You're right, Where are

1824
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: the answers? Yeah, September and that they had the same

1825
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: kind of distractions coming off of a Super Bowl they

1826
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 1: lost to the Philadelphia Eagles where Bill Belichick and Tom

1827
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 1: Brady didn't like each other and Gronk was going to retire,

1828
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: and they never had a distraction like this. No, you're

1829
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: not like this. Yeah, not like this. This is different,

1830
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: no question about it. All Right, a break, We're coming back.

1831
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 1: Field Yates from ESPN is gonna join us when we return.

1832
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: Come on back. One Bill's Live, presented by Collid of

1833
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1834
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: Hello Bills Radio Network Stories update. The update from One

1835
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. A stunning news from the NFL today. Police

1836
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,520
Speaker 1: in Florida have charged Patriots owner Bob Kraft with misdemeanors

1837
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 1: solicitation to prostitution, they say. The police say they have

1838
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: videotape of him paying for a sex act inside an

1839
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: illegal massage party. Police and Jupiter, Florida say the seventy

1840
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 1: seven year old owner of the Patriots says not been arrested.

1841
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 1: A warrant will be issued attorneys will be notified. It

1842
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 1: comes amid a widespread crackdown on sex trafficking in the

1843
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 1: area around Palm Beach County, Florida. Police say over two

1844
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 1: hundred arrest warrants have been issued in recent days. More

1845
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: are expected, and a statement a spokesman for the Patriots

1846
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: owner said they quote categorically deny that mister Craft engaged

1847
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: in any illegal activity. They say because it is a

1848
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 1: judicial matter, they will have no further comment. Combine next

1849
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 1: week in Indianapolis and a Hall State quarterback Dwayne Haskins

1850
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 1: will officially throw, according to ESPN, He previously said he

1851
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: intended to participate in all drills at the Combine. Mel

1852
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 1: Kuiper has Haskins listed at number five on his big Board.

1853
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 1: He says Haskin is the first quarterback coming off the

1854
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 1: board this year. He finished third in the Heisman Trophy

1855
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 1: voting this year. Patriots safety Devin mccordy, who said he

1856
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: might retire if New England won the Super Bowl. They did,

1857
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 1: but he will be back for a tenth season in

1858
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 1: New England. He's thirty one years old and eight time

1859
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: Patriots captain. He's played in one hundred thirty nine career

1860
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: regular season game, starting all of them. He's won three

1861
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl titles. Buffalo Sabers last night lost in Tampa

1862
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 1: Bay by a score of two to one in a shootout.

1863
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: Rasmus Daline scored his seventh goal of the season for

1864
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,600
Speaker 1: the Sabers. Nikita Kusherov recorded his one hundredth point of

1865
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 1: the season for Tampa. Carter Hutton with thirty nine saves

1866
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 1: in regulation and overtime. Buffalo's next game tomorrow afternoon one o'clock.

1867
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 1: Home in the afternoon to Keybank Center against the Washington Capitols.

1868
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: The Savers in Washington tomorrow at one pm. College basketball

1869
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: locally one game in town. Twenty fifth rank ub The

1870
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 1: Bulls are home against Kent State, the middle game of

1871
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 1: a three game homestand Buffalo came back to beat Kent

1872
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 1: State on the road in late January. UB's won ten

1873
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 1: of their last twelve meetings with him Kenisius on the

1874
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 1: road in Monmouth tonight and Niagara the Purple Legals play

1875
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 1: at Ryder tonight. And that is the update from One

1876
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. John Murphy Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo

1877
01:33:56,520 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 1: studio talking about the Bills, talking about quarterback leadership, talking

1878
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: about the really the biggest story of the day, the

1879
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:06,600
Speaker 1: Bobcraft situation. Joining us right now on the Subway Fresh Actline,

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Speaker 1: NFL Insider for ESPN coost to their fantasy football podcast.

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Speaker 1: Contributor to NFL ESPN's NFL Live, Field Yates on the

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Speaker 1: line with a Field John Murphy and Steve Tasker in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. We appreciate your time today, No problem, guys.

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Speaker 1: Good to catch up with you. Hey, we're wrestling to

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Speaker 1: figure out what to say, if anything, about the Bobcraft situation.

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Speaker 1: What do you know, Field, Can you enlighten us on

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Speaker 1: anything that you may have come across there at ESPN today, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: nothing more than what has been publicly stated and publicly reported,

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Speaker 1: which is that Robert Craft has been charged with a

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Speaker 1: misdemeanor for soliciting prostitutions, part of a larger scandal right

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Speaker 1: now that involved not with mister craft, but with other people.

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Speaker 1: Human trafficking obviously a very significant issue in something that

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Speaker 1: it sounds like in South Florida, is a point of

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Speaker 1: emphasis right now. But Robert Kraft has subsequently denied any

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Speaker 1: of these allegations. But to this point, it is certainly

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Speaker 1: a developing story that has the entire football world and

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Speaker 1: snared right now. You know, feel the charges are so serious,

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Speaker 1: the issue is so serious. Steve and I have struggled

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Speaker 1: to say much about it. You almost gotta and it's

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Speaker 1: difficult to do. And today when in the Twitter age,

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Speaker 1: it's difficult to kind of tape a step back and

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Speaker 1: let this play out. But that's almost what you're forced

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Speaker 1: to do with an issue like this, isn't it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, guys, I understand the rush for desire,

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Speaker 1: the desire for information. You know, it's something that just

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Speaker 1: the way that our world worked, right I mean, we

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Speaker 1: have social media that moves moves, moves the needle so fast.

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Speaker 1: But in this case, as much as we want clarity

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Speaker 1: on this story, it may be that the subbing that

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Speaker 1: develops and percolates over days or weeks or even months,

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Speaker 1: But for right now, we know the allegations or the

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Speaker 1: charges involved. It has been stated that there is video

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Speaker 1: of these allegations, but you know, Bob Kraft has already

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Speaker 1: come out and publicly denied them, which I think when

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Speaker 1: when someone does that, you would you would think or

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Speaker 1: hope that they're doing so because it's truthful. Um, because

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Speaker 1: they do, they do genuinely deny them. If not, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna get Harry in a minute. Yeah. Well, we were

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Speaker 1: talking about, you know, this being an enormous weight and

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Speaker 1: distraction for the New England Patriots and how this is

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Speaker 1: kind of something worse. But I think about you know,

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Speaker 1: they had Aaron Hernandez and how that all turned out,

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones Um and the strife that was put forth

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Speaker 1: last year between Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and and Rob Gronkowski.

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Speaker 1: But really, when you look at the Jerry Richardson incident

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Speaker 1: in Carolina and what he was that he was forced

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Speaker 1: to sell his franchise for that, Uh, this dwarfs anything

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Speaker 1: that the Patriots have faced before. Yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 1: say yes and no, I mean I think yes because

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Speaker 1: Robert Kraft is the owner and because he is you know,

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Speaker 1: the focal point of this organization at the highest level.

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Speaker 1: That being said, you know, Robert Kraft is a handsoff owner.

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Speaker 1: He is not someone that's going to meddle in the

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Speaker 1: football operation. And players do their job. And as we know,

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Speaker 1: the players aren't going to be back in the office

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Speaker 1: now for another month and a half. I mean the

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Speaker 1: Patriots have been off now for almost three weeks and

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Speaker 1: they will be off for another six or so weeks,

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Speaker 1: as we know, is customary around the NFL during the

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Speaker 1: off season. So while people like Bill Belichick will probably

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Speaker 1: have to answer for it, or while Robert Kraft himself

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Speaker 1: may have to answer for it, I think for the players,

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Speaker 1: while they do have a relationship and there's going to

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Speaker 1: be an emotional side of it in terms of handling

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Speaker 1: it while simultaneously handling their own football business, I think

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Speaker 1: this is going to be something they'll be able to

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Speaker 1: do so in a relatively reasonable order. It's a stunning story.

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Speaker 1: We're joined by Field Yates, NFL Insider for ESPN. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk some football. Field and you have talked and written

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Speaker 1: about the free agency. We're two and a half three

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Speaker 1: weeks away from free agency, and talked about each team's

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Speaker 1: most important, biggest free agent decision, and you had the

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Speaker 1: Bills with John Miller, right, is something an important issue.

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Speaker 1: They got to figure out what to do with their

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Speaker 1: young guard, John Miller, who becomes a UFA in a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yeah, and my job was to handle

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Speaker 1: the decision making based off of each local writers proposition

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Speaker 1: as to who the most significant free agent was. So

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Speaker 1: in that case, you know, Mike Rodack covers the Bills

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Speaker 1: for us here at ESPN, suggested John Miller, as we know,

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Speaker 1: the Bill free agent list is dwindling by the moment.

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Speaker 1: And I think when you look at John Miller, and

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Speaker 1: the essence of what I wrote is that you know

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Speaker 1: he may be the Bill's most notable free agent right now.

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Speaker 1: And he's not to say that he is not a

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Speaker 1: fine player, but what I think he is as a

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Speaker 1: fine player, I don't view him as a difference making

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Speaker 1: Guard's going to go out there and from an eight

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Speaker 1: million or ten million dollars per year on the open market.

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Speaker 1: But when you are Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott and

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Speaker 1: you have been meticulous with your rebuild. Although John Miller

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Speaker 1: was drafted by a previous regime, there's probably something to

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Speaker 1: be said for rewarding players that entered the building through

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Speaker 1: the building or by the organization's drafting that have performed capably.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that John was fine for them this

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Speaker 1: past year. I thought that pressed into a pretty significant role.

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Speaker 1: He held his own. You know, I've said this is

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Speaker 1: Steeve a couple of times on the show. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where they're going with John Miller. I guess I

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Speaker 1: would have to confess I'd be surprised if they bring

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Speaker 1: him back. But I would not be surprised at all

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Speaker 1: if John Miller finds a nice soft landing spot somewhere

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. His age, his number of games played

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Speaker 1: and starts really in his first ten year here in

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Speaker 1: the league. I think somebody's gonna pay John Miller some

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Speaker 1: money and he'll be okay when free agency comes and goes.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, I think he'll be just fine,

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Speaker 1: whether it's the Bills or somewhere else. You know, I

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Speaker 1: think that what I would avoid, though, if your buffalo

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Speaker 1: is where, I think you want to be careful, and

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that the Bills are going to be

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Speaker 1: the team that does this. But you know, when you

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Speaker 1: have a lot of mind spend, it doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: that allows you to spend your responsibly right. Just because

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Speaker 1: you can afford to overpay, it doesn't mean that you

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Speaker 1: should overpay. And I think what I'll use an example

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Speaker 1: as pardon for being long winded, but you know, the

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Speaker 1: Browns last year had a ton of cap space. And

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Speaker 1: I am not saying that they did not make some

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Speaker 1: home run moves because obviously Baker Mayfield looks like the

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Speaker 1: real deal, and there have been some other players they added,

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb included. They look awesome. But the Browns also

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Speaker 1: paid a lot of money to guys this pass off

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Speaker 1: season that I think in a couple of years I

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Speaker 1: might look back and say, wow, that's that's a big

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Speaker 1: number for that guy. You know, whether it's you know,

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Speaker 1: eight million dollars per year contract for TJ. Kerry or

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Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars per year for Jarvis Landry, there are

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Speaker 1: some numbers. Now that's because they had the money they

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Speaker 1: sort of spent as if. I don't say money wasn't

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Speaker 1: an object. So the point I'm making is that if

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Speaker 1: you're the build, just because you might add eighty eight

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Speaker 1: or so million dollars in cap space, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you want to use that as justification to overpay on players.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's simple and it's sort of still

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Speaker 1: as it may sound. The best way to manage a

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Speaker 1: cap is to not make bad decisions, and you typically

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Speaker 1: know bad decisions the minutes are made. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: going to ask you about that. It's a real balance

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Speaker 1: that everybody tries to strike. But is it possible in

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Speaker 1: the team in a league with thirty two teams, where

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Speaker 1: there only takes one team to overpay for a guy

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Speaker 1: and you lose him, is it possible to get quality

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Speaker 1: players who will play hard and get value for your

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Speaker 1: money without getting a really truly accepted great player. And

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Speaker 1: we had this stat on this show yesterday. No free

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Speaker 1: agent that changed teams last year was a starter in

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl this last season. Not one high quality

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Speaker 1: free agent or a big name free agent made the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl after switching teams and sign it a big contract.

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Speaker 1: What are teams supposed to do? They gotta find players somewhere,

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Speaker 1: but if they don't overpay, they don't get anybody. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess the Bills would actually be the perfect team

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Speaker 1: then that we can look at, because two off seasons ago,

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Speaker 1: if they did the safety spot and landing Jordan Employer

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Speaker 1: and Micah Hyde player has been good for nearly two

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Speaker 1: hundred tackles over the past two seasons, and Micah Hyde,

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Speaker 1: I think is about as versatile of safety as you'll

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Speaker 1: find in the conference. Just terrific players that if you

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Speaker 1: look at their money, they were set, they were spends.

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Speaker 1: And where I think maybe you find value is this

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Speaker 1: is you commit to players that aren't necessarily valued at

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Speaker 1: the top tier, but are you're willing to make them

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say middle of the road payments,

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Speaker 1: but like slightly above average payment. I think it's the

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Speaker 1: case for Mica Hyde and Jordan Employer. Maybe both of

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Speaker 1: them got a little bit more money than people would

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Speaker 1: have anticipated, but neither one of those deals if they

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Speaker 1: had gone or ry, like let's say Jordan Employer hadn't

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Speaker 1: become a really good player, you're paying I think it

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Speaker 1: was four years, fourteen million dollars maximum value, Like that's

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Speaker 1: not going to cripple your cat. So I think the

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Speaker 1: value in free agency is almost always finding players in

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Speaker 1: the second wave and beyond. You know, there's funny money

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Speaker 1: spent in the first day of great and there are

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Speaker 1: some players that have panned out and been tremendous. You know,

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Speaker 1: and Stefan Gilmore leaves Buffalo and he's become the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: It really was our best player this year. But not

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Speaker 1: every single one of those works out as planned. As

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, those are more of the exceptions

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Speaker 1: than the rules the field. One way to approach free agency,

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Speaker 1: and I've seen the Bills. I know they think of

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Speaker 1: it this way. Yes, March thirteenth is the first day

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Speaker 1: of free agency, and that's when you know some big

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Speaker 1: splashes will be made. But I think the Bills and

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Speaker 1: I think maybe smart teams look at it like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's March thirteenth, but there's also a second wave and

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Speaker 1: even maybe more a wave of free agency going all

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Speaker 1: the way through through June, almost where there are bargains

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Speaker 1: out there right once players get signed, and even after

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Speaker 1: the draft, there's a whole new wave of veteran players

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Speaker 1: who are out there now kind of scrambling into difficult

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Speaker 1: financial position looking for work, and you can find some

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Speaker 1: talent there. The Bills have done at other teams do

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Speaker 1: it too right, no question about it. And it's players

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Speaker 1: that fit right and whether it's fitting culturally, whether it's

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Speaker 1: fitting in terms of tea. But you know, I look

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Speaker 1: at some of the best players I think, specifically on

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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball for the Bills that

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Speaker 1: you know, we're not drafted by the Bills initially, whether

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Speaker 1: it's guys that we mentioned Employer and also Micah Hide

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Speaker 1: or you know, obviously Lorenzo Axander played a ton of

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Speaker 1: football before we got to Buffalo, but I think he's

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Speaker 1: been at his vest since he got to Buffalo and

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Speaker 1: great to see him resigned. I mean, I know that

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Speaker 1: there are some questions about how long he fits defensively

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Speaker 1: going forward, but you know, Jerry Hughes for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years was really a dynamic player for the Bills

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Speaker 1: after being a castaway. Right, people thought this guy couldn't

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Speaker 1: play after a couple of years in Indianapolis, but he's

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Speaker 1: been a revelation. Maybe not a massive, massive year past year,

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01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 1: but I thought so pretty solid. There is value to

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01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 1: be had in finding players that fits. And I know

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01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 1: that probably not as glitzy as what fells. You know

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01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna be guys are going to make a ton

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01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 1: a ton of money in the first few couple of days. Right,

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01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 1: we know that someone might Judevy and Clowney or someone

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01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 1: like you know, it's the open market. You know, Lea

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01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 1: Beyon Bell will make a lot of money. I just

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01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: don't know necessarily that's where you get the best value.

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Speaker 1: Do you do you think Levion Bell is going to

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Speaker 1: get everything he hoped and dreamed he would when he

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01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 1: held out and didn't take the fourteen point five million

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01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 1: dollars franchise tag with the Steelers. Is he gonna realize

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01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 1: his dream? You know something I would I would think no.

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01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 1: But it takes just one team. And I hate to

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Speaker 1: use just one example, but I often turned to this.

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Speaker 1: If you had told me that there was any chance

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01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 1: that brock ost Wilder would have been traded by the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texan, I would have told you zero chance whatsoever. Zero.

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Speaker 1: But it took just one and it was kind of

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Speaker 1: the perfect circumstance for them, right Cleveland looking to acquire

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Speaker 1: an extra draft pick, and that was sort of part

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01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 1: of their vision at the time. So to me, I

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01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 1: think that while Leadion Bell probably would not get the

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01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 1: contracts he currently desires from, I would feel comfortable saying

2117
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 1: three quarters of the league, no question about it right now.

2118
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Maybe there is one in that last quarter of the

2119
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 1: league says yeah, let's do it. Let's crank it up,

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01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 1: let's make it happen. And you know, I keep pointing

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01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 1: to the Jets and the team that I think needs

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01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 1: to get better in a hurry and has the resources

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01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 1: to really make it happen in short order. With Field Gage,

2124
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 1: NFL Insider for ESPNA Field, you mentioned Jadeveon Clowney and

2125
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 1: the Texans still have the opportunity to tag him and

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01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,600
Speaker 1: keep him around. But I guess I'm even surprised that

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01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: it's gone this far. And I know the money is

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01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:37,600
Speaker 1: the issue, but I guess I consider Jadeveon Clowney is

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Speaker 1: like a foundational player for the Houston Texans. Don't they

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01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: think of him that way in Houston these days? You

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01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: know something I don't know that I would say, Well,

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01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 1: he certainly can be a foundational player. One thing that

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01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 1: I would say with Clowney is this is that prior

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01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:57,719
Speaker 1: to and since he was drafted, there are other players

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01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: that the Texans can point to as they're foundational pieces.

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01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 1: Right before him. J. J. Watt is a foundational piece.

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01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 1: After him, I think to Shaun Watson foundational piece. Certainly

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01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins a foundational piece as well. All of those

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01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 1: players were required before or after Jadevian Clowney. So I

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01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 1: think that if you're Houston, like there are other teams

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01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 1: that probably couldn't afford to lose a player that has

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Speaker 1: sort of singular dynamic value to them. I'm trying to

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01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 1: don't know if I have a perfect example. Well, I'd

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01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 1: say this, when Oakland traded Khalil Mack, he was kind

2145
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 1: of the guys. When you thought of the Raiders, he

2146
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 1: was the guys. And so I think for Houston, like

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01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 1: the idea of losing Jadevian Clowney, you have so many

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01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: pieces in place that are really good that losing Jadevy

2149
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 1: and Clowney. I'm not saying that, like ideally you want

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01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 1: to not have Jadevian Clowney, but it's a different circumstance.

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Speaker 1: I think compared to other teams where there might be

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01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 1: one or two guys who really are representative of that organization,

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01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:00,040
Speaker 1: they're sort of iconic, at least for the moment. I

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01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:04,560
Speaker 1: think that's for Clowney. I think personally um that a

2155
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 1: franchise tag is coming, but that that certainly could change

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01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 1: based off of what happens in the next ten or

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01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 1: so days. That's really good point Yeah. Now, one of

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Speaker 1: the last thing I want to ask you about for

2159
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 1: me is Kyler Murray has decided he's going to play

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01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 1: football and only football. He's an undersized, dynamic app It's

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01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:25,840
Speaker 1: a little bit like a running back playing quarterback. But

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01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 1: he is kind of intriguing. He's a winner. He seems

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01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 1: to throw the football extremely well. Uh AND's and like

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01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 1: we see every year in the NFL draft, quarterbacks tend

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01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 1: to start moving up the draft board from where they

2166
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 1: begin at this time of year and the end with

2167
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 1: a combine next week. Where do you ultimately see Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray landing and which teams will be the most interested

2169
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: landing early? Somewhere in the top eight or so picks

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Speaker 1: is my estimation. Yeah. And here's why, guys, is this

2171
01:48:56,560 --> 01:49:02,480
Speaker 1: is you know, the idea of waiting for a quarterback.

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01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 1: Let's say that you are one of the teams in

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01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 1: the top fifteen or so picks, right, and the idea

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01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,680
Speaker 1: of waiting for you know what, this is not the

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01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:12,879
Speaker 1: year that we want to go shopping for a quarterback.

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01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,599
Speaker 1: You know, maybe we'll wait until next year. Well, how

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Speaker 1: did we view this year's quarterback class a year ago

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Speaker 1: at this time? Whatever? The answer is you can. Really

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01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 1: it's poppa that it can change dramatically, and I think

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01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 1: that's the case with as much promise as there is

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01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 1: in specifically two Otago Valoa from Alabama, like a year

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01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:36,679
Speaker 1: from now, decides that he wants to stay at Alabama

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01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 1: for his senior season. I am not not counting on it,

2184
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 1: but who knows or what if the tenor changes dramatically

2185
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 1: on two ah. Remember when Christian Hackenberg was on top

2186
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: of the football world after his freshman year at Penn State.

2187
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: Like this thing's changed dramatically. There's nothing to be said

2188
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Speaker 1: for the burden in hand. So if you think Tyler

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01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 1: Murray's got a chance and you're a team that needs

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01:49:56,360 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 1: a quarterback, this is your chance. And in seventeen of

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01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 1: the past eighteen years in the draft, at least one

2192
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,639
Speaker 1: quarterback has gone in the top three. The Loan exception

2193
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 1: was a year that the Bills started the QB rally

2194
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:13,760
Speaker 1: with Eja manuals. But the point is that you know,

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01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 1: lock it in. Every year is gonna be at least

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01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 1: one quarterback in the top three, And really wouldn't surprise

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Speaker 1: me if we end up seeing Kyler Murray in the

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Speaker 1: top eight or so. Picks. You know feel they haven't

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01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:26,599
Speaker 1: said it, But if that's the case, the Bills are

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01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: in pretty good position here at the ninth pick. Overall, right,

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Speaker 1: somebody might get desperate and say we got to make

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01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,599
Speaker 1: a move here to get the quarterback before Kyler Murray

2203
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 1: gets away, no question about it. And the Bills also

2204
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 1: might it be in good shape and that you know,

2205
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 1: this is a draft that's heavy on defensive linemen, and

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01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 1: not that the Bills haven't seen some promise from some

2207
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 1: of their guys, but I would say that if you

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01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 1: were to stack up the needs this offseason for Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: I mean too, you know what, it's always good news

2210
01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 1: when there's a lot defensive line debt for all player.

2211
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 1: There's not a single team in the NFL that I

2212
01:50:57,280 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 1: can think of it couldn't use some more quality defensive lineman.

2213
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 1: So the Bills and other teams in that top ten

2214
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 1: they might be able to move backwards in a trade down,

2215
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 1: are sitting pretty in a pretty good spot. Pash your

2216
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 1: one more field. I know we're gonna move along here.

2217
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 1: But Rob Gronkowski, it's been quiet. The word is it's

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01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 1: what a week or two away his decision? What are

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01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 1: you hearing what's this decision going to mean? Is he

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01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:19,759
Speaker 1: coming back or is he stepping aside? Yeah, I wouldn't

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01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:22,719
Speaker 1: spend I wouldn't get too caught up in timelines on Gronk.

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01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 1: You know, certainly the Patriots know that. You know, if

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Speaker 1: mccronk is part of the future in twenty nineteen, then

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Speaker 1: you know what you know obviously is a boon for them.

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01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 1: But I think the Patriots have to approach this offseason

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01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: with the idea of adding a long term tight end

2227
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 1: no matter what, because even if Gronk returns, guys, you

2228
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 1: need a long term tight end here. It's too critical

2229
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 1: for any offense, and it's a good tight end class

2230
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 1: that I don't think it. I think the Patriots can

2231
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: afford to be patients or they're not going to press

2232
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 1: Gronk into a decision before they started free agency, because

2233
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Speaker 1: I don't think it changes their free agency outlook all

2234
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 1: that much. All it does is, really, you know, if

2235
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 1: he retires, he walked away from a lot of money. UM.

2236
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:06,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that. Um uh, you know,

2237
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 1: I know for sure which wage is leaning. I think

2238
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 1: the Patriots view it as will let Gronk do, um

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Speaker 1: what he wants to do on his own terms, but

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they have a much better tenor of the situation. Um,

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01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 1: I will have a much better tenor of it by

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01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:24,360
Speaker 1: the time we get to march their team. Gronk first

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Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer, What do you think? Ye? I know,

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01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 1: and I try not to, Um, you know, hammer people

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01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 1: too much on Hall of Fame voting because I know

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01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 1: that it's an arduous process. But I would just say

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01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 1: that when you are talking about a player who was

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Speaker 1: the most dominant at his position ever and he did

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01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 1: so for a decade, it would be to me a

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Speaker 1: real shame if he's on a first ballot Hall of Famer. Field,

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Speaker 1: thanks for this, Appreciate it all right, guys. Take care.

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Speaker 1: Field Yates, NFL insider for ESPN, contributor to ESPN's NFL

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Speaker 1: We had a discussion about Crockett was last week, Steve,

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01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 1: in which I think both of us said we were

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01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 1: kind of trying to think through it. It was top

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01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 1: of the head, but I don't think either one of

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01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 1: us thought he was a lock for first battle Hall

2260
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Speaker 1: of Fame, and just to let people know that I

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01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:20,600
Speaker 1: do hear what you're saying. I'd read some of the

2262
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 1: comments about that our discussion and heard what people are saying.

2263
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: They thought, maybe maybe I'm wrong, Maybe he has a

2264
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 1: lot first ballot, first time eligible Hall of Famer, nine

2265
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 1: ten years in the league, dominant. As Field just said,

2266
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he changed the position, but he

2267
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 1: certainly was a huge difference maker almost right from the start.

2268
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Speaker 1: And I do agree with this. We talked about it

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Speaker 1: last week. One of the best professional careers of any

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Speaker 1: professional sport, of anyone coming from Buffalo. Yeah, any he dominant.

2271
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:57,520
Speaker 1: Now you can say what you want about his statistics

2272
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 1: or his or his career. He didn't play for like

2273
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 1: fourteen years. I mean Tony Gonzozz was a seventeen year guy.

2274
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 1: I think Rob Grinkowski has won an eight year guy,

2275
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 1: came out in ten. I think this will be the

2276
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 1: ninth year, or maybe it was a ninth year. But

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01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 1: he's not even hasn't even played ten years yet. And

2278
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 1: people will say, well, guys, you know, usually these guys played,

2279
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,600
Speaker 1: but he has gotten he's gotten world class numbers in

2280
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 1: a ten or less than a ten year career. And

2281
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:24,880
Speaker 1: when you think about during his career, who's been the

2282
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 1: best tight end of the league. Rob Grinkowski is the guy. Now,

2283
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 1: he's lost a season here and there with injuries. He's

2284
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 1: been banged up, you know, with his elbow and his knee,

2285
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 1: but and his back of late. But when he plays,

2286
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: he's unstoppable. He's a force, and I think that goes

2287
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 1: a long way for the fact that plus, you know,

2288
01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:47,839
Speaker 1: there's no small thing about it. He's got a multiple

2289
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings on his fingers. So I don't I

2290
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 1: don't think there's any way to keep him out. I

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01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 1: think he is a first ballot hole nine years, just

2292
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 1: finished his ninth year in the league. Yeah, a career, um,

2293
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 1: you know, Pockmark Bayon Jas he's had trouble staying on

2294
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 1: the field, especially in recent years. But I don't know.

2295
01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 1: We were talking about it last week. I don't know

2296
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 1: in what context, but we were talking about to see

2297
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 1: a first ballot, you know, first time he's ooted the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, and I think I said, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about I thought about it, and when

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01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 1: I read some of the comments, I thought, yeah, maybe

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01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm right. We were talking about it when Julian Edelman

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01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:20,400
Speaker 1: after the MVP of the Super Bowls, and then we

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01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:22,560
Speaker 1: started talking about who else, And of course grib Brady

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01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 1: and all that, and Belichick and all those guys are

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01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 1: going to go in the Hall of him, But what

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01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 1: about Gronk? And the question isn't it's interesting because you

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01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 1: get to these guys, is it interesting? Is it? Is

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01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 1: he a first ballot Hall of Famer or not? Yeah?

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01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 1: I think he is a Hall of Famer. Yeah, And

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01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 1: then you know, who knows where he's gonna It depends

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01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 1: on how many guys are in his class, who else

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01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 1: is in his finals class, who else are they voting for,

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01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 1: and whether any of the writers has a bias against

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01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots or Rob gras Grenkowski himself. Is he gonna

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01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 1: cost him a couple of votes or whatever? But you

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01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 1: look at the numbers and the guys around him, and

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01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 1: his career and what he's some of the things he's done,

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01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,360
Speaker 1: and he's in some pretty elite company. And by elite

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01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 1: I mean Hall of Fame company. You know, I told

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01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 1: you this a couple of weeks ago, right before I

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01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 1: think it was right before the Hall of Fame boat.

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01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:09,520
Speaker 1: We were down in Atlanta. It blew me away when

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01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:11,360
Speaker 1: you saw the list of fifteen finalists. We had a

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01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 1: couple of them right to Tony Boselli and Bruce Isaac

2325
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 1: Bruce on the show in Atlanta, and somebody came up

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01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 1: with a stat that said, of the fifteen finalists every year,

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01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 1: eighty six eighty eight percent of them eventually go to

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01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. So when you talk about Ozzie

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01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer, maybe maybe not, I

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01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't I would not want to get

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01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 1: too deep into creating that special category. Well, he's a

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01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:34,200
Speaker 1: real Hall of Famer because he went in his first

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01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 1: year eligible. So to your point, Gronk is a Hall

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01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 1: of Famer first year or not, it's certain he'll be

2335
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 1: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I agree. Yeah,

2336
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 1: good for him too. I mean we've had to suffer

2337
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:47,760
Speaker 1: through his Yeah, we've seen it. We've seen it, and

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01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 1: it's I mean, you can think back, the guy's made

2339
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 1: some phenomenal catches. Yeah, certainly, he's been on a phenomenal

2340
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 1: team for a phenomenal franchise, playing for the goat quarterback,

2341
01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 1: and he's going to get more opportunities because of that.

2342
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, he's come through quarterback. What type

2343
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 1: of leader do you want in your quarterback? We have

2344
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:07,680
Speaker 1: more time to talk about that, and we'll do that

2345
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:09,280
Speaker 1: when we return. Give us a call if you'd like

2346
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 1: to participate. Eight oh three five fifty and toll free

2347
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We've

2348
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 1: got NFL tour or false coming up next week. We've

2349
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 1: got Combine coverage coming up next Wednesday Thursday Friday. Steve

2350
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 1: and I will be at the Indianapolis Convention Center in

2351
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 1: the Giant Sides Convention Haul there and have Combine covered

2352
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:33,080
Speaker 1: scouting Combine next Wednesday, February twenty seventh, Thursday, February twenty eighth, Friday,

2353
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 1: March first, the whole NFL will be there. We will

2354
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 1: be there as well. Steve Tasker in years truly One

2355
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 1: Bills live at the Combine next week. More coming up

2356
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 1: at a moment. One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive

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01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back John Er.

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01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: If you see Tasker, One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive,

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01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 1: coming to you on a Friday afternoon with no show Monday.

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01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 1: Hockey instigators Trade deadline Day? Did you mark that down

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01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 1: on your calendar? Like, dude, I did not. I did not.

2362
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 1: I cannot I know, I mean, I can't keep tracking

2363
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 1: local media and NHL Trade deadline Day was an evand

2364
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 1: and there were some trades. But boy, in recent years,

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01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't think of anything that made

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01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 1: me compelled to follow what's going on Monday. The instigators

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01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 1: will be doing it and we'll be out on Monday.

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01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't. You're a hockey guy. I'm

2369
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 1: not even gonna follow trade deadline hockey fan. Yeah, and yes, no,

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01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna follow trade deadline Day. I'm gonna I'm

2371
01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:42,400
Speaker 1: gonna tune in to the instigators and let them do

2372
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 1: it for me, let them do the heavy lifting. That's

2373
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 1: exactly right. Are we gonna do true and false today

2374
01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 1: because we skipped it yesterday? Sure, once you get it going,

2375
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:50,240
Speaker 1: it's kind of my thing. I know you love this.

2376
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 1: Go ahead, make sure you NFL True False brought to

2377
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 1: you by Yancey's, Fancy New York's Artists and Cheese Oh

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01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 1: Number one. Alan to Foster seventy five yard touchdown against

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01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 1: the Jaguars is the Bill's top play of the year.

2380
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 1: You can go on you can look at the end

2381
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 1: of the top ten plays of the Buffalo Bills throughout

2382
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:10,280
Speaker 1: the season. Alan to Foster seventy five yard touchdown against

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01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. That's the top play of the year. Now,

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01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 1: there's other things like Deon Dawkins catching the touchdown of

2385
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 1: the Jets. There's Kyle Williams catching the little swing pass,

2386
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 1: the last play of his career, the hurdling Josh Allen

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01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:28,480
Speaker 1: hurdling the guy in Minnesota. There. You know, there's some

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01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 1: big plays in there, and what do you think there's

2389
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:33,480
Speaker 1: but I think I think Deon Dawkins touchdown against the

2390
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 1: Jets with Matt Barkley at quarterback, with the fast start

2391
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 1: to the game, the quick pass to uh Robert Foster

2392
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:42,440
Speaker 1: that got things going that day, and then the touchdown

2393
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 1: by Shady and the second play from scrimmage. That was

2394
01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:46,920
Speaker 1: a special day. And it was only the Jets, but

2395
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:49,000
Speaker 1: it was a good win and when the Bills really

2396
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 1: needed it and they were down to their fourth fifth

2397
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 1: street quarterback quarterback and to be down there near the

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01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 1: goal line and to have a tackle eligible play to

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01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins, that was the Play of the year. I

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01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:01,919
Speaker 1: was delighted with that play, delighted with the whole afternoon.

2401
02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 1: And you could argue, I mean, can you have a

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02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:08,440
Speaker 1: dramatic turnaround in a six win season. Probably not, but

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02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:11,800
Speaker 1: who could argue that that game and that play, which

2404
02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:14,120
Speaker 1: was a big part of that game, put the Bills

2405
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 1: on the right track. Now, Josh came back the next week,

2406
02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:19,880
Speaker 1: but Matt Barkley I think gave everybody hope and the

2407
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:23,360
Speaker 1: offense in particular, my vote would be for the touchdown

2408
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:25,280
Speaker 1: pass the Deon Dawkins for the Bills play of the year.

2409
02:00:25,320 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 1: So I'm going false with I love the Jack Jaguars

2410
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:31,000
Speaker 1: touchdown play Robert Foster seventy five yards from Josh Allen,

2411
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:33,360
Speaker 1: but I'm going with the Dion Dawkins plays my Bills

2412
02:00:33,400 --> 02:00:35,360
Speaker 1: play of the twenty eighteen season. This is what something

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02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 1: on the NFL network or something, right, I'm not sure

2414
02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:41,520
Speaker 1: which Twitter site it's on, but that's where it was,

2415
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 1: and I'm you know what, I gotta tell you, I'm

2416
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 1: totally with you. And it's not just an argument. I

2417
02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:47,000
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a statement of fact that

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02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:50,800
Speaker 1: Jet game was the turnaround. Matt Barkley was the second

2419
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:53,560
Speaker 1: guy the Bills were forced to start after just being

2420
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:55,720
Speaker 1: on the roster for two weeks. We can and you

2421
02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 1: can go back, and Brandon being admitted this, he goes

2422
02:00:58,600 --> 02:01:00,200
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's a big One of

2423
02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 1: the biggest mistakes he's made in his short tenure here

2424
02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:06,200
Speaker 1: was not bringing one of these veteran guys in sooner

2425
02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 1: than he did. But they did bring him in. Finally,

2426
02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley turned things around and his win set the

2427
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:15,480
Speaker 1: Bills up to go the rest of the way and

2428
02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:18,520
Speaker 1: bring Josh Allen back, and it turned the entire attitude

2429
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:21,160
Speaker 1: of the team around. So yeah that I like that

2430
02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:24,040
Speaker 1: touchdown past to Dion Dawkins. I thought it was a

2431
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:25,600
Speaker 1: good plan. I will go along with you on that,

2432
02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 1: so I'll say false. We're both saying false. I think

2433
02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:29,680
Speaker 1: it was NFL dot Com that's set up the plays

2434
02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:31,920
Speaker 1: of the year for each team in the NFL, and

2435
02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:34,360
Speaker 1: they had ranked third, and this is a big play

2436
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 1: and one of the memorable plays of the year, certainly

2437
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:40,120
Speaker 1: one of the memorable plays of Josh Allen's early career.

2438
02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:42,960
Speaker 1: His hurdle over the linebacker bar at Minnesota. The Bills

2439
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:45,480
Speaker 1: got off to a great start in that game at Minnesota.

2440
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:47,960
Speaker 1: They needed something to go right for them, right if

2441
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:51,000
Speaker 1: they started off the season with horrible losses, and Josh

2442
02:01:51,120 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 1: ran for a touchdown early and then came up with

2443
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:55,920
Speaker 1: an amazing play to jump right over the linebacker on

2444
02:01:56,320 --> 02:02:00,000
Speaker 1: another scoring drive in the first half. People will remember

2445
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:02,480
Speaker 1: umber this, right, There are t shirts, there are statues

2446
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:04,840
Speaker 1: about that play. Um, it was just it was a

2447
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 1: great Uh. It was a great afternoon in Minnesota. There

2448
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 1: weren't six again. Here we are again, Steve happiest six

2449
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:12,280
Speaker 1: win team in the NFL, I know, but there were

2450
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:15,840
Speaker 1: some memorable moments. That was third on nfl dot COM's

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02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:18,640
Speaker 1: list of its second was the Dion Dawkins touchdown pass,

2452
02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 1: and h third was Josh Allen to Robert Foster seventy

2453
02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 1: five years, seventy five yards. All right, so there we go.

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02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:28,680
Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two. Okay, so we got one

2455
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:33,040
Speaker 1: more two one more two more? Uh. Number two. Raiders

2456
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:37,440
Speaker 1: are the NFL's draft's most fascinating team. Now why would

2457
02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:39,960
Speaker 1: that be? I don't even get why. That is tons

2458
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 1: of and one of the reasons is they tore it down.

2459
02:02:42,280 --> 02:02:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean they're trying to rebound. They are at rock Bottom.

2460
02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 1: They traded away two of their best players in Amari

2461
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:50,520
Speaker 1: Cooper and Khalil mack Um, and then complained that they

2462
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:53,440
Speaker 1: didn't have any receivers or a pass rusher uh, and

2463
02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:55,920
Speaker 1: noted how hard those people were to find after they

2464
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:59,920
Speaker 1: traded the best couple of the best ones away. Uh. Yeah.

2465
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:02,880
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders and I don't even know where

2466
02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:05,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna play, let alone. They're trying to figure that out,

2467
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:08,320
Speaker 1: what they're gonna drive, who they're gonna draft. So I

2468
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:11,480
Speaker 1: would say I would say yeah, because I do have

2469
02:03:11,600 --> 02:03:13,880
Speaker 1: some draft picks and it's gonna be interesting to see

2470
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:16,520
Speaker 1: what they what their philosophy is, trying to rebuild what

2471
02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:18,960
Speaker 1: they tore down. I would say false. I don't think

2472
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 1: they're fascinating. I don't think they're there. I want to

2473
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:25,400
Speaker 1: see on Hard Knocks though maybe I don't know. You know,

2474
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:27,400
Speaker 1: it's it's going to be a show out there either way,

2475
02:03:28,200 --> 02:03:31,160
Speaker 1: you know. I was. I just started a book last night,

2476
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:34,840
Speaker 1: Steve Michael Lombardi's book grid Iron a Genius, and the

2477
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 1: early part of the book. And we'll have him on

2478
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 1: the show too, maybe sooner or later in the next

2479
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:40,920
Speaker 1: week or two. But he's talking about coaching and what

2480
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:45,880
Speaker 1: constitutes a genius. Your boy, your boy Marvis in that

2481
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:48,880
Speaker 1: group as well. But talking about Gruten and how Gruten

2482
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:51,720
Speaker 1: he worked with Bruten in Oakland and he said Bruden

2483
02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:54,440
Speaker 1: is tough. Now you know he's an offensive guru, right,

2484
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 1: we know that about John Gruten. But he said he

2485
02:03:57,120 --> 02:04:01,200
Speaker 1: doesn't like focus on stuff. He would criticize players when

2486
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 1: it didn't do any good to criticize them. He just

2487
02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:06,160
Speaker 1: sort of floats around and and he's he's funny Gruten,

2488
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:08,880
Speaker 1: as you can see that on TV. He's glib, but

2489
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:11,920
Speaker 1: he said he lacks like focus. And with that in mind,

2490
02:04:11,960 --> 02:04:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't know will they get the draft right. I

2491
02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:17,280
Speaker 1: don't know they're having what's his name um from NFL

2492
02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 1: Network is now in charge of their uh mac Mike Mayock. Yeah,

2493
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:23,960
Speaker 1: so he's never done that before. He certainly can stand

2494
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:25,920
Speaker 1: at a podium at the combine and let you know

2495
02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:27,800
Speaker 1: what he thinks of players. I don't know that's gonna be.

2496
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:29,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna be the drafts most fascinating team. I'm gonna

2497
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:33,840
Speaker 1: say false one say all right, that's NFL true false

2498
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:37,120
Speaker 1: brought you. We're gonna take a break, We're gonna take

2499
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Speaker 1: a break. We're gonna take them, all right, We're gonna

2500
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:43,600
Speaker 1: keep going. Then the last one, because he keeps keeps

2501
02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 1: talking to me in my ear, that would be producer. Okay,

2502
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:50,080
Speaker 1: um Jaguar NFL true false number three before I give

2503
02:04:50,120 --> 02:04:53,520
Speaker 1: the plug to Yancey's fancy Jaguar should move on from

2504
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:56,480
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius. This was kind of a delicious little note

2505
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Speaker 1: for me. What's up now? They're people are Marcel Darius

2506
02:05:02,600 --> 02:05:05,280
Speaker 1: should move on to the team that got him from

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02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:10,560
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. I would say yes. If you're bringing

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02:05:10,600 --> 02:05:12,160
Speaker 1: that up a guy making that kind of money, if

2509
02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 1: he's not living up to the contract, you need to

2510
02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:16,120
Speaker 1: get rid of the Bills did it? The Jaguars could

2511
02:05:16,160 --> 02:05:18,960
Speaker 1: be next if they've got a dominant defense, if he's

2512
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:21,240
Speaker 1: not a big enough part of it, and if they

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02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:24,800
Speaker 1: can save enough money on their cap to help them elsewhere.

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02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:28,800
Speaker 1: And because believe me, the Jaguars are in cap jail. Yeah,

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02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:30,360
Speaker 1: I think he got to move on from him. I

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02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 1: say it's true. This pains me because really I have

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02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:35,680
Speaker 1: a great deal of affection for Marcell Darius. I really do,

2518
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:38,960
Speaker 1: probably more than I should. He's just another player, right,

2519
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:41,000
Speaker 1: That's a lot like you feel about me. He's just

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02:05:41,080 --> 02:05:44,720
Speaker 1: another player, No, I do. I really like Marcell Darius.

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02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:47,280
Speaker 1: I loved seeing him here when the Jaguars came in

2522
02:05:47,320 --> 02:05:50,200
Speaker 1: in November, sat on the Bills bench in his suit.

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02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 1: He didn't play that game, right, he was banged up,

2524
02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:54,000
Speaker 1: sat on the Bills bench pre game in his suit,

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02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 1: Hugs all around. But you know what, You're right, they

2526
02:05:56,520 --> 02:05:58,640
Speaker 1: probably should move on, And to me, it's a signal

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02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:03,000
Speaker 1: that his the window is closing from oursel Darius. His

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02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:05,560
Speaker 1: ability to make an impact and be a difference maker

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02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL is probably behind him now at a

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02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 1: relatively young age. He's always been younger than his draft age, right,

2531
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:13,720
Speaker 1: younger than you would think based on the draft. But

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02:06:13,880 --> 02:06:17,400
Speaker 1: it's just it's I hate saying this about that guy

2533
02:06:17,400 --> 02:06:20,400
Speaker 1: because I like him, But it's wasted potential, wasted talent

2534
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:22,640
Speaker 1: from our shil Darius. It was here, he had some

2535
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:26,040
Speaker 1: great moments here, and he's had some good moments in Jacksonville,

2536
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:29,040
Speaker 1: but never could never quite get to how good he

2537
02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:31,560
Speaker 1: could be for a variety of reasons, all of his

2538
02:06:31,680 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 1: own making. So yeah, I'll say true, they should move on.

2539
02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:37,920
Speaker 1: He'll probably bounce around a little bit around the League

2540
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:40,280
Speaker 1: before he's finally done. I hope he's made enough money

2541
02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 1: and done well with it so he doesn't have to

2542
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 1: worry about finances in the future. He had a you know,

2543
02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 1: well chronicled. We all know what he went through personally, right,

2544
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:51,360
Speaker 1: and some of the tragedies in his life. And that's

2545
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 1: why I have affection from oursel Darius. But it hurts

2546
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:56,240
Speaker 1: me to say, true, yeah I was. I sound like

2547
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:58,160
Speaker 1: a whiner here, wow a little bit, But that's all right.

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02:06:58,280 --> 02:07:01,240
Speaker 1: It's yeah something these guys are human beings. Is a

2549
02:07:01,360 --> 02:07:04,000
Speaker 1: human being, right, and you think about it. Malik Jackson

2550
02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:08,320
Speaker 1: and Marcel Darius. Now, Malik Jackson, he backslid in twenty

2551
02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:10,680
Speaker 1: and eighteen. He didn't justify his thirteen and a half

2552
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:12,760
Speaker 1: million dollars salary. This is the other guy, not Marcel.

2553
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 1: Then that and then his sack numbers decreased by half

2554
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:22,160
Speaker 1: and his and his decline was emblematic of the problems

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02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 1: that plague Um the Jaguars who were in the twenty

2556
02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:30,120
Speaker 1: seventeen AFC Championship Game. They went five and eleven last year.

2557
02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:33,680
Speaker 1: Now he and Marcel Darius as Malik Jackson Marcel Darius

2558
02:07:33,800 --> 02:07:36,080
Speaker 1: together count for twenty five and a half million dollars

2559
02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:39,600
Speaker 1: against the cap in twenty nineteen. One of them has

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02:07:39,680 --> 02:07:44,240
Speaker 1: to go, whether it's Malik Jackson or Marcel Darius, and

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02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:46,440
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see which one they pick, if

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02:07:46,480 --> 02:07:50,880
Speaker 1: not both. Our Twitter topic today, what type of leadership? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you want to rep that was NFL true false?

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Speaker 1: Brought to you by Yancey's, Fancy New York's artists and cheese.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. What type of leader do you want in

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Speaker 1: your quarterback? Talked about it all day long. We've taken

2567
02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:03,720
Speaker 1: a couple of calls on it, got some tweets on it.

2568
02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 1: We got one from a Buffalo fan who tweets in.

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02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:10,280
Speaker 1: I like Tom Brady's positive affirmation style of leadership when

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02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:12,720
Speaker 1: teammates do well. Josh Allen seems to have that same

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02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:15,400
Speaker 1: leadership style. Now, if he could just read defenses like

2572
02:08:15,480 --> 02:08:18,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and have that touch on short to midraid passes,

2573
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:21,360
Speaker 1: Bill's win. No one likes to be criticized publicly. He's

2574
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:23,640
Speaker 1: not going to be Tom Brady, Josh Allen. But I

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02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:25,880
Speaker 1: mentioned this to Steve earlier and asked him about Brady

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Speaker 1: as a leader. I do think there's positive affirmation there.

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02:08:29,080 --> 02:08:31,840
Speaker 1: I think I think what and again, we're always talking

2578
02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:33,520
Speaker 1: about when we talk about quarterbacks, we get back to

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02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:38,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo's quarterback and I've I've praised his competitive fire since

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02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:40,720
Speaker 1: he showed up here on the scene, and I think

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02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:46,400
Speaker 1: his Josh Allen's positive and this tweeter calls a positive

2582
02:08:46,440 --> 02:08:49,360
Speaker 1: affirmation style. I think that's true. You know, he becomes

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02:08:49,400 --> 02:08:52,400
Speaker 1: a cheerleader. He becomes a guy who runs down on

2584
02:08:52,440 --> 02:08:55,240
Speaker 1: the field when somebody makes a big defensive play, or

2585
02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:57,480
Speaker 1: you know, cheering on the sidelines. I like that. That's

2586
02:08:57,600 --> 02:09:00,560
Speaker 1: leadership too, right, being the positive guy in the sidelines. Um,

2587
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:03,680
Speaker 1: not talking negatively about what you could have done better,

2588
02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:08,280
Speaker 1: and and to the guy to Buffalo fans point, not

2589
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:12,280
Speaker 1: criticizing publicly as much as you may want to, as

2590
02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:15,640
Speaker 1: much as they deserve it. If you can't, you just can't.

2591
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:18,880
Speaker 1: It's it's about being the right kind of guy and

2592
02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:24,040
Speaker 1: then being that, just being that guy in every situation. Um,

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02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 1: you want a great a guy who's a great friend,

2594
02:09:26,160 --> 02:09:29,120
Speaker 1: a great a great teammate, a guy you love and

2595
02:09:29,200 --> 02:09:32,000
Speaker 1: respect personally as well as professionally, a guy who works hard,

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02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 1: a guy who's really gifted and smart and all of

2597
02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:37,840
Speaker 1: that stuff. And then spreading it around the team. I mean,

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02:09:37,880 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 1: that's what the kind of guy you want, and that's

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02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 1: certainly what Josh Allen seems to be. Um, we'll have

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02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:45,040
Speaker 1: to wait and see if he, you know, continues to

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02:09:45,120 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 1: develop and gets to the point where he can carry

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02:09:47,280 --> 02:09:50,280
Speaker 1: a team on his back with the help of his teammates.

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02:09:50,320 --> 02:09:51,920
Speaker 1: And right now he's kind of trying to do it

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02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:54,120
Speaker 1: all himself. And you know, as we all know, for

2605
02:09:54,160 --> 02:09:55,800
Speaker 1: good reason. On his side of the ball. By the way,

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02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:57,960
Speaker 1: it's a really hard job. Oh my god, it's a

2607
02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:00,680
Speaker 1: really hard job to play the position, to play it effectively,

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02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:02,880
Speaker 1: and then to be the leader. With all the attributes

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02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:05,720
Speaker 1: that us and you and your tweets and calls that

2610
02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:08,920
Speaker 1: you've talked about, it takes a special person to be

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02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:12,040
Speaker 1: a good NFL quarterback. And a special person not just

2612
02:10:12,200 --> 02:10:15,520
Speaker 1: a great arm, not just mobility, not just accuracy. There

2613
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:18,440
Speaker 1: are personal qualities that we've talked about all day here

2614
02:10:18,440 --> 02:10:20,720
Speaker 1: in the last three hours that are hard to come by.

2615
02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 1: That's why it's really hard to find the right guy.

2616
02:10:22,840 --> 02:10:25,120
Speaker 1: It is because it is so hard. You have to

2617
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:28,240
Speaker 1: not only physically qualify, you got to mentally qualify. And

2618
02:10:28,280 --> 02:10:30,560
Speaker 1: then we're talking about all this stuff that's intangible. It's

2619
02:10:30,680 --> 02:10:33,480
Speaker 1: leadership stuff that's all thrown in the mix as well.

2620
02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 1: Plus you got to be intelligent enough to learn on

2621
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:39,040
Speaker 1: the flyes no football, Yeah, I mean the vetting process

2622
02:10:39,160 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 1: for an NFL quarterback is unlike any other I mean

2623
02:10:41,320 --> 02:10:43,720
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. All Right, a break here, we're coming back

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Speaker 1: with more. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Driving. This

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Okay, so what have we learned

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2629
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Speaker 1: or the Buffalo Bills. We had Rich Gamnet on the

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02:11:14,800 --> 02:11:17,760
Speaker 1: show today, seventeen years in the NFL, four time Pro

2631
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:20,480
Speaker 1: Bowler quarterback, Right Rich Gannon, We asked him about his

2632
02:11:20,560 --> 02:11:23,400
Speaker 1: observations of Josh Allen's rookie year with the Buffalo Bills.

2633
02:11:25,440 --> 02:11:27,560
Speaker 1: I think he has a lot of the intangibles that

2634
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:29,960
Speaker 1: you really liked in that position. I think he's got

2635
02:11:30,040 --> 02:11:32,680
Speaker 1: some toughness. I think he's got some aggressiveness to him.

2636
02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:35,480
Speaker 1: I think he's a smart player. I think he can

2637
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:39,280
Speaker 1: make plays outside the pocket with his legs, you know, clearly.

2638
02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:41,880
Speaker 1: I think he gained a lot of experience in year one.

2639
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:44,320
Speaker 1: I think he gained the trust, in the respect and

2640
02:11:44,440 --> 02:11:46,920
Speaker 1: the confidence really of other teammates from the coach. Instead,

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02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:48,920
Speaker 1: I think, well, I think we just look back at

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02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:50,880
Speaker 1: his body of work. He's got to get better. I

2643
02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:53,680
Speaker 1: think trusting his seat, being a little before quieter in

2644
02:11:53,720 --> 02:11:56,480
Speaker 1: the pocket. He's going through the progressions and the reefs

2645
02:11:56,560 --> 02:11:58,600
Speaker 1: and not being so quick to pull it down time

2646
02:11:58,640 --> 02:12:00,080
Speaker 1: because he you know, he knows he can run with

2647
02:12:00,120 --> 02:12:02,360
Speaker 1: the football. But I think conclustion percentage is something that

2648
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:06,400
Speaker 1: has to improve significantly. I think the decision making, especially

2649
02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:09,840
Speaker 1: in third down in those type of situations. Rich again

2650
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Speaker 1: and talking about Josh Hellen also on the show today.

2651
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Speaker 1: A little bit ago, we had field Yates, ESPN's a

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Speaker 1: national insight er. We asked him about the chance that

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02:12:17,680 --> 02:12:20,360
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski might be finished, might retire in the next

2654
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:24,000
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. There's what he said. I wouldn't get

2655
02:12:24,040 --> 02:12:27,400
Speaker 1: too caught up in timelines on Gronk. You know, certainly

2656
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:31,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots know that, you know, if mccronk is part

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02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:34,320
Speaker 1: of the future in twenty nineteen, then you know what

2658
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:36,680
Speaker 1: you know obviously is a boon for them. But I

2659
02:12:36,720 --> 02:12:39,760
Speaker 1: think the Patriots had to approach this offseason with the

2660
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:42,920
Speaker 1: idea of adding a long term tight end no matter what,

2661
02:12:43,200 --> 02:12:45,480
Speaker 1: because even if Cronk's returns, guys, you need a long

2662
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:48,320
Speaker 1: term tight end here. It's too critical for any offense,

2663
02:12:48,480 --> 02:12:51,240
Speaker 1: and it's a good tight end clap that. I don't

2664
02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:53,440
Speaker 1: think it. I think the Patriots can afford to be

2665
02:12:53,600 --> 02:12:56,360
Speaker 1: patients or they're not going to press Gronk into a

2666
02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:59,560
Speaker 1: decision before they started free agency, because I don't think

2667
02:12:59,600 --> 02:13:01,720
Speaker 1: it changed. Is their free agency outlook, all that mud.

2668
02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:04,800
Speaker 1: The gold Field Yates news of the day was the

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02:13:05,000 --> 02:13:09,240
Speaker 1: word on Bob Kraft, Patriots owner charged with misdemeanor solicitation

2670
02:13:09,280 --> 02:13:12,200
Speaker 1: of prostitution. The word in Florida is it'll be Monday

2671
02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:15,760
Speaker 1: before they actually file the chargers and arrest him. He's

2672
02:13:15,800 --> 02:13:19,440
Speaker 1: not been arrested yet. Kraft caategorically denies that he was

2673
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:22,280
Speaker 1: engaged in illegal activity. So let that play out over

2674
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:24,920
Speaker 1: the weekend. Steve no Show, Monday, it'll be hockey with

2675
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Speaker 1: the NHL trade deadline, Tuesday, year off and Wednesday with

2676
02:13:28,360 --> 02:13:30,960
Speaker 1: the combine looking forward to driving the Combine Tuesday night. Yeah,

2677
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Speaker 1: be good. Thank you, Steve, have a great weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you too, want to thank you for tuning in. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for our production assistants, George Blast, Jeff Colteneck, Thomas Honalder,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, JJ Turito, Kevin Cargis, James Roebel, our producer

2681
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Speaker 1: Jay Harris. Will see you on Tuesday. Chris Bryan and

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Speaker 1: I'll be doing the show Tuesday at noon One Bill's

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