1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory. 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm Channingler Room, joined by Tyler Stafford, who could not 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: be happier because, as we all envisioned when this month began, 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Texas A and M has won a national championship. How 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: do you feel, Tyler? 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: We won a playoff game this weekend. It was the 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: national championship, Aggie volleyball. 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: You better it not. 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Ever, let us have our best season since nineteen eighty four. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: Again they kept saying they've never even made a semi 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: final appearance. Well, buddy, we're the national champs now smoked Kentucky. 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: Those fools beat number one overall seed Oklahoma in the quarterfinals. 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: Get out of here, bump set spike. Do you think 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: they still do the cheers that they do in like 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: junior high and high school at the college games? Do 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: you think that they're on the sidelands like break the 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: serve side outside out or that does that go away? 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: No? At A and M. Probably not. They probably have 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: to do all the hand signal they're yells at at 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: and the gyrations and all that stuff, so I don't 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: think that exists there. But they scored points, which was, 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: which was a welcome sight to see. Yeah, other others 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 1: and others at the university couldn't have been so lucky. 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna suck, though, because you know they're gonna go 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: take what little ni l those poor players are making 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: and just pump it into like whoever Mike Elko wants 27 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: to hire to make them score points. 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: Like you think we're you think we're low on money, 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: We'll pay for an entire professional volleyball team. We'll do 30 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: whatever it takes. We got our track and field dominance 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: is unmatched, got a great swim team. Their soccer team 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: is great. Just a it's just a school of athletes 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: except for the one sport that everyone pays attention to. 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Well, I mean everybody paid attention to them on UH 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: on your. 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: Side, I feel like, yeah, people people were talking about it. 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: I watched it with UH with Olivia. She was very 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: excited that the girls were playing uh Astros. She calls 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: all sports the astros. So said, look, the girls are 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: playing Astros. Yeah, they kind of are. 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: Sure. 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: So we watched. We watched that. It was fun. It 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: made me miss coaching in junior high. I coached, I 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: didn't coach the volleyball team. But I was, you know, 45 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: did all the basketball and football and track and field 46 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: and would go to the volleyball games and I miss that. 47 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, national champs, baby, take that. 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: Very well, very well, just like we all thought, transitioning 49 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: to baseball, another sport that the Aggies are perennially number 50 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: one at, and then we don't know where they go 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: after that. You know, we wanted to after you know, 52 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: the last one, last time we talked to you guys, 53 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: was right after the Mike Burrows trade, and we kind 54 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: of spent that whole episode just kind of reacting to 55 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: the trade itself, what they gave up, what Mike Burrows 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: could be, kind of looking at him under the hood. Now, 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: I think it's probably prudent Tyler to like maybe take 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: stock of what this pitching staff looks like, because as 59 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: of I mean, the office is shut down, like the 60 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: ashers have shut the office down. Everyone has gone to 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: their respective homes for the holidays. I'm not saying that 62 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: that will prevent them entirely from doing anything. Like if 63 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure if Dana Brown gets a call the day 64 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: after Christmas on a trade that he really likes, I'm 65 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: sure he'd pull the trigger. But in general I expect 66 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: it to be pretty quiet the next week and a half. 67 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 2: To call that box score day the day after Christmas 68 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: instead of Boxing Day, it's box score day. If you 69 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: make a trade, that's when I've decided. Well, I also 70 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: want to point out we can get back on your 71 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: important point here in a second. You say the word 72 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: prudent a lot, and I don't know how you say 73 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: it without immediately slipping into a Dana Carvey impression where 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: he did the first George Bush wouldn't be prudent anyway, 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: every time you say that's, that's what I think of. Continue. 76 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't watch a ton of SNL, especially when 77 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: especially like that era, so. 78 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: I have a disease where I have to watch every 79 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: single episode or else I can't function. So I've got 80 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: them all. You want to quote SNL at me, I'm 81 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: ready to go. 82 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that reference got lost on me. But yeah, So 83 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: I would not expect much to happen until maybe after 84 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: the new year. So I think it gives us time 85 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: to take stock of what has happened. But they have 86 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: added and maybe look at a pitching staff that's been 87 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: like the one place that they really have addressed like 88 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: this is they have made three significant acquisitions this this 89 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: winter thus far, and all of them are pitchers. They have, 90 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, Dana Brown came out and said, at the 91 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: beginning of the off season, our foremost number one priority 92 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: is starting pitching. They have acted on that. Like I 93 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: said in the last episode, I still don't think they're done. 94 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: I still think they would like to add more pitching. 95 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: I think there is thought within the organzation that they 96 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: would like to maybe close the gap between Hunter Brown, 97 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: who is your unquestioned ace, and everyone behind him. I 98 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: think there is some thought that that gap is too 99 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: large that they would like to close it by adding 100 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: like like we talked about last time, they don't need 101 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: to go get an ace. It needs to be maybe 102 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: like an established lower tier second, third guy two or 103 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: three to slot behind Hunter Brown and not make it 104 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: feel like such a wide chasm between you know, Hunter 105 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: Brown and the rest. So as it stands now, let's 106 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: let's look at it this way. The Astros had fifteen 107 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: guys make starts for them last year. They had fifteen 108 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: pitchers make starts. Two of them were Steven Okert and 109 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: Jayden Murray when they ran openers in bullpen games, so 110 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna throw those to the side because that's not real. 111 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: So they had thirteen. They had thirteen guys make a 112 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: majority of their start last year. Nine of those guys 113 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: are coming back. Nine of those guys are on the 114 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: roster currently on the roster to come back. They sure. 115 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: That's Hunter Brown, Christian Xavier Spencer, Aarraghetti, Lance McCullers, Junior 116 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: aj blue Ball, Colton Gordon, Jason, Alexander, Hayden was Nesky, 117 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: and Renel Blanco. Hayden was Neski and Renel Blanco will 118 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: not pitch until the middle of the season, if they 119 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: pitch at all, because they had their Tommy John surgeries 120 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: last year. So those are the nine guys coming back, 121 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: and they've added three guys who they at least are 122 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: going to go to camp in West Palm Beach under 123 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: the impression that they are going to be competing for 124 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: rotation spots. And that's Mike Burrows, that's Ryan Weiss, and 125 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: that's Nate Pearson. 126 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: So I'm doing my math. There's nine coming back, two 127 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: are not available. That's seven. They've added three carry the 128 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: one ten, so there's ten starters right now that are available. 129 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: Hypothetically for the beginning. 130 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: Of the season, and JP France is in that weird 131 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 1: vortex of like he didn't pitch in the major leagues 132 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: last year, but he was healthy, was pitching in the 133 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: minor leagues out of the bullpen and a bulk roll 134 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Has pitched in the 135 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: big leagues before, He's been in a big league starting rotation, 136 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: so he sort of counts. But in the purposes of 137 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: what I just detailed for that exercise, like, he doesn't. 138 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: But yes, he is there and can be available. So 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: maybe at him you have eleven, so you have eleven starters. 140 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: And again this is not counting. You know, maybe Miguel Yoa, 141 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: who is going he's on the forty now. He profiles 142 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: more as a reliever, but started in Triple A. I 143 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: think his ultimate home is probably in the bullpen. But again, 144 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: like we'll say about all these guys, you stretch him 145 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: out in spring training, what's the worst that could happen? 146 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: And if he can't, if he can't throw enough strikes 147 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: to start, just put him in the bullpen. It's easier 148 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: to put him in the bullpen from being stretched out 149 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: than start them as a reliever. And then stretch them out. 150 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: And then you've got guys like friend of the podcast 151 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: Ethan Pecko, You've got Bryce Mayer, you've got James Hicks, 152 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: You've got the young up and coming guys that can 153 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: maybe take that next step, and you have bring you 154 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: some depth. So I guess, first of all, knowing what 155 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: we know, knowing that I just told you, Tyler that 156 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: this team had fifteen guys start for them last year, 157 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: all those names I just ran down. Do they have enough? Like, 158 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: would you feel okay if this is the pitching staff 159 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: that they brought to West Palm Beach in a month 160 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: and a half. 161 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I would never say they have enough, but 162 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,119 Speaker 2: I will say it's better to have fifteen dart throws 163 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: and hope that seven of them work out than to 164 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: have seven and pray that all of them work out, because, 165 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: as we've seen, people get hurt, people are not good, 166 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: You move people of the bullpen, you know, all of 167 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: those different kinds of things. And also there's gonna be 168 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: three guys that we have never heard of before who 169 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: are gonna make good starts for the Astros in August, 170 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 2: and we'll be like where he's gonna be like a 171 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: minor league rule five pick you know from the expos 172 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: somehow who's been hiding somewhere for twenty five years and 173 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: then there's suddenly good. They will find those people. But 174 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they did that. They've done what they 175 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: needed to so far to at least come into the 176 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: season with enough options that again, dude, a handful of 177 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: them have to be good. There's no way they're all bad, 178 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: you know, And you've got enough runway at the beginning 179 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 2: of the season to throw guys out there and to see. 180 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, look, you're always gonna want more starters. 181 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: There's no such thing as as too many good pitchers. 182 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: But they're in a they're in a better position certain 183 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: then it would have seemed they would have been in 184 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: two months ago. They are more ready to start a 185 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 2: season now than they would have been. 186 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: To your point about there's gonna be guys that we've 187 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: never heard of that are going to end up making 188 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: starts and probably pitch well for the Astros, I don't 189 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: think when we were talking about this team at this 190 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: point last year, we ever mentioned the name Jason Alexander. Yeah, 191 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: I don't think we never mentioned the name Colton Gordon. 192 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: We never mentioned the name AJ blue Ball, although we 193 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: knew about Alexander's kind of in a different realm just 194 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: because he was a waiverclaim. But then we knew about 195 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: Colton Gordon. Knew about AJ Blueball. You just kind of 196 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: thought of them as depth, as depth starters that break 197 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: in case of emergency. And then Colton Gordon threw ninety 198 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: innings for you in the big leagues, which is. 199 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: I mean, hand up, I did not know about Colton Gordon. 200 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: You're giving me way too much credit if you think 201 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: I had that name on my radar at the beginning 202 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: of last season. 203 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: You're a big WBC fan. You didn't watch Team is 204 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: You didn't watch him pitch for Team Israel against. 205 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: The br Yeah, I do remember that, but I would 206 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 2: not have been able to tell you that that man 207 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: was employed by the Houston Astros at the time. 208 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, there will always be guys that come 209 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. There will always be the prospects that 210 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: take the next step, that have a good offseason and 211 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: kind of put themselves on the map. And that's what 212 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: you hope as an organization. You hope to You hope 213 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: to come to West Palms as covered as you can 214 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: be to have as many options as you can, like 215 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: you mentioned Tyler, and you just hope to have a 216 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: couple of surprises kind of help you out when some 217 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: of that depth gets hurt, when some of that depth 218 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: is ineffective, any of that stuff. So keep that in 219 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: mind too as we're talking about this. But you mentioned 220 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: the start of the season, and I think it's instructive 221 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: now as you start talking about roles and as you 222 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: start talking about how spring training is going to look. 223 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: You look at the beginning of this season. They start 224 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: the Astros start the year playing twelve games in fourteen days. 225 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: They play six in a row, have an off day, 226 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: play another six in a row, and then have another 227 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: off day after that second off day. That fourteenth day, 228 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: they play thirteen in a row. So they if again 229 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: if my math is right, if I'm doing all the 230 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: math right, they play twenty five games in twenty seven 231 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: days to start the season. I'd be floored if they 232 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: do not deploy a six man rotation in that timeframe. 233 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: For a number of reasons. One, we have seen them 234 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: do it. It's something that Dana Brown likes a lot. 235 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: He has talked about it. Joe Espada has always been 236 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: amenable to stretching his rotation to six. And then also, Tyler, 237 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: you know this, like when you start the season, unless 238 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: you're Hunter Brown or Trek Scouble or someone of that ilk, 239 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: you're not gonna start the season like ready to go 240 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten pitches, throw into the seventh inning, 241 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: like all of the first starts through the rotation. Sometimes 242 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: for these guys, even maybe the first two starts through 243 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: the rotation are trunc aidd starts, and you want to 244 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: make sure you have enough coverage, want to make sure 245 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: you're not overworking guys. So it could look a little 246 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: bit different. So I would expect, unless I'm told otherwise 247 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: or proven otherwise, when we get to camp, I would 248 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: expect the Astros would run a six man rotation to 249 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: start the year. And so with that in mind, Tyler, 250 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: it becomes a little bit easier to start identifying kind 251 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: of some roles. Like obviously you know that as we 252 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: speak right now, Hunter Brown and Christian Javier are kind 253 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: of cemented, like those are the only two guys I 254 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: think going into camp that you just say one hundred 255 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: percent they are getting the ball in this rotation on 256 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: opening day and probably the day after opening day, respectively. 257 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: For those two guys, Mike Burrows is probably right there. 258 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: If not guarantee, you don't know what they gave up 259 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: for him. You don't make that trade unless you are 260 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: damn sure he's in your rotation. But as I have 261 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: not even talked to Mike Burrows, I don't know like 262 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: kind of where he's at. So I don't want to 263 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: one thousand percent guarantee, but he is going to be 264 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: in the rotation to start the year. So you've got 265 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: two and a half that you feel very, very confident 266 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: in that they are coming to camp. Regardless of what 267 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: they do, they are going to be in the rotation. 268 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: After that, it gets a little bit gets a little 269 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: bit uh confusing, I don't know if confusing is right. 270 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: Where gets a little bit ambiguous after that, where do 271 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: you think they go? Like where? What is your maybe 272 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: your biggest question after you after you get past Brown, 273 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: Javier and Burrows, what is your biggest question about what 274 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: comes next for them? 275 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: Uh, we're going to find out within the first two 276 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: weeks if Lance mccullors can get outs. They're going to 277 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: figure that out real quick and then make a decision 278 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: on what to do with that. Also in the first 279 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: three weeks, ten of those games are against the Rockies 280 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: and Angels, so you do have, you know, some some 281 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: weaker offenses at the beginning. 282 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: Uh. For I will I will add in that you 283 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: know you're you're right, but those three games against the 284 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: Rockies are at course field where you can have a 285 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: terrible offense and the ball still flies. And then you've 286 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: got the A's right before that, who I think Nick 287 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: Kurtz is going to be on their team again, which 288 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: is not lord great for them, and they play in 289 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: a shoe box, So you're it's those are offensively, those 290 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: are difficult parks to pitch it. 291 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: I might, I might hop on your a's hype train 292 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: with you this year. You were a year early last year, 293 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: and I gave you a hard time about it, but they. 294 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: Were better than the Astros in the second half. 295 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: They were, they were good. That offense is crazy, Uh 296 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean from there you got to figure out, 297 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: you know what what you have, Like you said, there's 298 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: three guys that you're pretty confident in. Then you got 299 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: three other roster rotation spots for the at least the 300 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: first month of the season. Like you said, of doing 301 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: a six man there. You know, as far as like 302 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: hoping goes, really the big question mark is is Christian 303 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: hobvier or fine? You know, like if he if he 304 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: comes out and is a number two starter, like the 305 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: Ashros are in a great position. You know he he 306 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: had flashes of it certainly last season. But you know 307 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: that's that's going to be a huge part of the 308 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: rotation because the honest truth is is we've talked about 309 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: it a lot. Lance mccullor's has done all that he 310 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: needs to to cement a legacy in Houston. But as 311 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: far as going forward, I think we're going to find 312 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: out real quick what what that looks like. And you know, 313 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: if if Game four he comes out and walks six 314 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: in the first two innings, that that might be the 315 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: last time we see mccolors out there. But then you 316 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: have a bunch of other people, you know that you 317 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: got to have spots for of course, you know ALCS 318 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: Game four starter aj blue Ball will be out there, uh, 319 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: carving people up so that one we can go ahead 320 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: and cement in the rotation that everybody else is fighting 321 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: over the rest of the spots. 322 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: I think you're right on the colors thing. I think 323 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: if he is on the team when they report to 324 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: Wes Palm Beach, then I think he's been I think 325 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: it is going to go just as you said it will, 326 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: Like they're going to stretch him out. He's going to 327 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: come as a starter, like he's like he did not 328 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: want to be in the bullpen last year. He is 329 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: not suited to be in the bullpen. I know there 330 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: is this thought for some reason that is in people's 331 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: heads that he can be a leverage reliever. Like it's 332 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: just not there anymore, Like it's not the stuff is 333 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: not there anymore for that, and it's you know, it's 334 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: detrimental to his health too, because this he has been 335 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: a starter's whole career. Having him warm up, you know, 336 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: back to back days, warming him up and not using 337 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: him like it's just not conducive to what he is. 338 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: So he is a starter. He will come to camp 339 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: as a starter, and again, presuming he gets through spring 340 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: training unscathed, presuming he is healthy to begin the season. 341 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: I do think that, you know, they will give him 342 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: a chance. He's making seventeen million dollars, this is the 343 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: last year of his contract he has. It feels like 344 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: a broken record. But when he pitches well when it's 345 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: all there, when he is healthy, and when he is 346 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: pitching well, like this is an above average major league 347 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: starter and they need that in the worst way. And 348 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's going to be that next year. 349 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's going to come out and 350 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, be that solid number two that they need. 351 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: But the upside is there, like the ceiling is there, 352 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: so they're going to give him a chance. So I 353 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: think you're on the right track there that you could 354 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: probably pencil him in And I would not certainly not 355 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: put it in sharpie, certainly not put it in pen 356 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: I would pencil him in first in that rotation. I 357 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: think you could say the same thing about Spencer Araghetti. First, 358 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: we need to make sure that he is healthy. You 359 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: need to make sure that everything with the elbow and 360 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: the shoulder and whatever it was last year is okay. 361 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: You need to make sure he comes to camp and 362 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: he's ready to go, and he's ready from day one. 363 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: But he's got like he's got a good bit to prove. 364 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: Like I know, he had a very nice second half 365 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: of his rookie year, pitched very well after the All 366 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: Star breaking twenty twenty four, almost had the no hitter 367 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: in Philly. Like you've seen the potential there, but this 368 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: is still a guy that has now thrown one hundred 369 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: and eighty big league innings and has an ERA over 370 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: four and a half. He has an eighty seven ERI 371 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: plus one hundred ERA plus is league average, so he's 372 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: been thirteen points below league average when you look at 373 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: ERA plus. So again, all the tools are there for 374 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: him to be very, very good. And last season was 375 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: a lost season for him for a lot of different reasons, 376 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: the injury, the comeback from set injury. I think he 377 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: I think he came out and said that like maybe 378 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: the how he came back wasn't conducive and he maybe 379 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: came back too quick. They he needs to like he 380 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: needs to proove, Like this is not a situation where 381 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: I think Spencer Araghetti comes to camp and there's just 382 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: a guaranteed rotation spot for him, Like he's got to pitch, 383 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: He's got to pitch adequately well in spring training. It's 384 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: still a competition and he's gonna have to come in 385 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: and win a spot. 386 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, which I mean is true of eight or nine 387 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: guys on the Astros, And I mean like I said, 388 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 2: you don't need all of them to be good. Spencer 389 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: Grady has certainly shown flashes, but if there's four guys 390 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: who are pitching better than him, then he's gonna be 391 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: in triple A. And you know you have him there 392 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: for the inevitable, may call up when everybody else gets 393 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: injured on your team. But yeah, I mean they have 394 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: a lot of darts right now that they need to 395 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: throw and see which one's hit. But yeah, I mean 396 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: it's interesting because they don't have the like established names, 397 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: but they do have a lot of guys that you 398 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: look at and you can say, oh, if this guy 399 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: has an eightieth ninetieth percentile season of his like, it's 400 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: good rotation. You know, Spencerghetty looks good if he can 401 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: strike out people at the rate that he does and 402 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: limit the damage. Like, that's a really good picture of 403 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: Christian hobby is healthy and the invisible is working. That's 404 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: a really good picture. You know, if Mike Burrows can 405 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: improve and add a sinker and you know start, you know, 406 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: really being able to barrel in on Riighty's, that's a 407 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: really good picture. You know, you've got a lot of 408 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: guys like that who you can look to and say, 409 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: if everything goes right, like this is a this is 410 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: a good rotation, and all of these guys are under 411 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: control too. It's not like they've signed a bunch of 412 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: veterans and you just have to pick them and then 413 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: release the other. You know, It's not like all these 414 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: guys are coming in on minor league contracts and you're 415 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: just trying to guess. Like worst case scenario is you 416 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: pick the wrong one and the right one is in 417 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: triple A and then you just bring them up. 418 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: They're also and I think this is kind of what 419 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: you are also coming out. They're also all optionable. Yeah, 420 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: Spencer Aragedtty has options left, AJ blue Ball, Colton Gordon, 421 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: JP France, Like they all are optionable. It's like you 422 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: have enough flexibility with your roster to where you know what, 423 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: like if Spencer Araghetty does struggle for a couple of starts, 424 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: you can option him and you have you have flexibility 425 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: there when that hasn't always been the case, Like you 426 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: haven't always been able to just mix and match with 427 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: your rotation because a lot of them were on major 428 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: league contracts without or they had enough service time that 429 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: they didn't have options left or they had exhausted all 430 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: of their options, so it's a more flexible rotation than 431 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: maybe they've had in the past. I think something that 432 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: will be interesting, and it was and it was funny 433 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: to hear. Not funny, but it could be funny if 434 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: it ends up this way. It was funny to hear 435 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Weiss when he was on here a couple of 436 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: weeks ago, like be very anti relieving, like I don't 437 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: want to relieve. I'm not I don't I hate doing 438 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: one inning stense, like I'm a starter and I'm not 439 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: sitting here saying that the asher is going to make 440 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: him a reliever. But there's certainly you know, when you 441 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: look at him and Nate Pearson, to me, I think 442 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: these are you know, they're kind of in the same 443 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: boat as I think Weiss, given the money that they 444 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: gave him and you know, having the option, like they 445 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: view him more as a starter than they do Nate Pearson. 446 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: But it's no guarantee that Ryan Weiss is locked into 447 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: the rotation. You know, Dana Brown even said at the 448 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: winter meetings he's going to come in and compete for 449 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: a spot in the back end of the rotation, which 450 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: I also think is the case for Nate Pearson. I 451 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: think Nate Pearson has more bullpen experience in the big 452 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: leagues and the stuff is just, to be quite candid, 453 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: I have not seen Brian Weiss pitch live, Like I 454 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: could not tell you what the stuff looks like. I've 455 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: watched some videos, and but that can only tell you 456 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: so much like Nate Pearson has. Like you can envision 457 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: Nate Pearson as a leverage reliever just because of what 458 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: he's done at the big league level. You've seen the stuff, 459 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: You've seen the stuff pop. He's comfortable there. They're going 460 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: like and Nate came on the podcast as well and 461 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: said one of the reasons he signed with the Asher 462 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: is because they're going to give him a chance to start. 463 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: So I think they're both in a similar situation. But 464 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: I also think they're both in great spots to make 465 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: the club, to make the hope because, like we talked about, 466 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: if they're going to run a six man rotation, with 467 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: which I wholeheartedly believe they will the first month of 468 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: the season, that inherently leaves your bullpen one arm short, 469 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: and I could see a world in which I don't 470 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: know if it's the Colors, I don't know if it's Weiss. 471 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: I don't know who it is, but I could see 472 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: a world where one of these days is a piggyback 473 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: game where you use Nate Pearson as the back half 474 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: of a piggyback, or you use Ryan Weiss as the 475 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: back half of a piggyback, and you save your bullpen 476 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: for that day and then you're rett and then you're 477 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: ready to go for the next game. So I think 478 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: both of them it bodes well for both of them 479 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: to make the club out of spring, but maybe not 480 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: in the roles that you know on December twenty second, 481 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: that they maybe are envisioning for themselves. 482 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, unless they're really good, right and they can have 483 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: a rotation spot. Like again, that's the strategy going in. 484 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 2: It is like you just got all these arms and 485 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: someone is going to be good, someone will be fine. 486 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: Like you just got to figure out who the right 487 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: one is our international free agents optionable, Like is Ryan 488 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 2: Weiss able to go to Triple A or is he 489 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: just on the big league roster? 490 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: No matter what you know, I don't know the answer 491 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: to that. I'm scroll as we're talking right now, I'm 492 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: scrolling on roster resource and hey, I do see. Ryan 493 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: Weiss has two options left according to Roster Resource. According 494 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: to Ross Resources on fangrafts, if you don't if you don't, hey, 495 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: if you don't look at fangrafts daily, then you're missing out. 496 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: It's a wonderful. They have great content, they have great 497 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: written content, and they are so helpful in terms of 498 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: this stuff of having guys, having guys' contract situation, option status. 499 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: So yes, Ryan Weiss has two options remaining. So again 500 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: they are in a position to where like the staff 501 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: they carry on whatever day, opening day is, March twenty whatever, 502 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: March twenty sixth whatever staff they carry on March twenty 503 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: six could be different by like March twenty nine, like 504 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: they can. They have more moving parts here and more 505 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: ability to option guys and more ability to change roles, 506 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: to change pictures than they have in a while. And 507 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: I think you you do have to remember you can 508 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: only option a guy five times during the season before 509 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: you have to expose them the waivers. So they have 510 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: to think about that. But I think they'll be fair. 511 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: They got fifteen of them, they'll they'll be fine. They'll 512 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: figure it out. 513 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: So as we talked about all like as we're talking 514 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: through it, Tyler like it sounds good, Like it sounds 515 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: like they are in a decent position given given me, 516 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: Like if they're not going to run. 517 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: It also could be real bad, right, Like if Christian 518 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: Haavier is throwing eighty nine and just giving up bombs, 519 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: then it's like, oh. 520 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: We get to fan Fest in a month, and Spencer 521 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: ariget He says, oh, yeah, I had a set back, 522 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: Like I don't know if I'm gonna be throwing bullpens 523 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: in spring training or like if the same thing happens 524 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: in Colors, then you're like, oh crap. 525 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: But again, it's mostly guys who have already shown more 526 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: or less their floor, and you're just hoping for a ceiling. 527 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: It's not like you've built a rotation out of kneading 528 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: Javier mccolors Arraghetty and that's it. You know, you have 529 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: other guys who have shown that they're able to do 530 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: what those guys are capable of doing. So the floor 531 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: I think is a little bit higher than disaster. You know, 532 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 2: I don't see a scenario where the astros are just 533 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: they just can't get outs. They might have the wrong 534 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: guy getting outs that day, but they have the ability 535 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: to the next time that rotation spot comes up, throw 536 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: a different guy out there, and like I said, somebody 537 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: is going to be fine. 538 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: I think two things are true. I think as we 539 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: talk through it, I think they are They're in a 540 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: decent position. I think, like you said, there's a lot 541 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: of variability. There is nowhere near this sort of comfort 542 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: or solace you felt in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen 543 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: when like Wade Miley led the league in er and 544 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: he was your fourth starter in twenty nineteen, Like you 545 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: don't have that. You've got a lot of options. You've 546 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: got a lot of guys that the upside, like as 547 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: you said, is real. But I think it also does 548 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: underscore that they could use another You say it like 549 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: this all the time, So I'm gonna steal from you, 550 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: Like they could use another adult, They could use another 551 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: just kind of guaranteed, like yeah, know what a thirty 552 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: two year old with back pain and is just like 553 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: there to do his job lunch pail. 554 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: You know. Just look, I'm not gonna be good, but 555 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get They need a Scott Feldman, you know, 556 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: they just need somebody. Oh dude, that was the biggest 557 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: free agent contract Luno gave at the beginning, like a 558 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: thirty million dollar kind of you know, they need that guy. 559 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: They need Michael Waka, like somebody like that where it's 560 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: like the Maggie legend, you know, just somebody like that 561 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: where you know they're gonna get out, you know they're 562 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: gonna show up every day. But look, yes, you would 563 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: like to find the top end of the rotation guys now, 564 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: but you're also in a position that you can just 565 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: get one in July. You know, if if the team 566 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: is good enough and you're recognizing, okay, we've got the 567 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: depth here, but we need that guy that in the playoffs, 568 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: you can count on somebody's gonna show somebody some journeyman 569 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: starter this year. You know, for whoever the Royals or 570 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: you know, the Cardinals or whatever, some some team is 571 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: going to have a guy that's going to have a 572 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: career year at the beginning of the year and it's 573 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: going to be the guy that everybody's going after in July, 574 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: and the Astros can go get somebody on an expiring 575 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: contract who's having a good year. They they've got the 576 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: prospect capital to get a number two or number three 577 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: star that has shown it throughout the season. Right now, 578 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: they just have to get enough guys for one hundred 579 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: and sixty two game season, and I think that they 580 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: have done a good job of that so far. 581 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: The one thing I will say, and I I mean, 582 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't really care, but I hope for I hope 583 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: for people in the organization's sake that they have learned 584 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: from last year and that starting in June. You don't 585 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: hear Dana Brown going on the radio or talking to us, 586 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, weekly and saying, you know, we're really looking 587 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: forward to Hayden was Nesky coming back, like that's a 588 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: trade deadline acquisition in itself. We're really looking forward to 589 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: Renel Blanco, like we think once he gets back, like 590 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: our rotations whole, Like it's nothing against those guys, Like 591 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure if they would come back at full health, 592 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: they would be a boost to the rotation. But you 593 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: saw it last year at the deadline, like that is 594 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: not constructive, Like it is not. 595 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: If you're waiting on those guys, your season has taken 596 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 2: a a drastic turn. If you are, if you are 597 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: circling when is Hayden Wooznewsky can it be back? No offense, 598 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: something has gone wrong. 599 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: And again it's not about the pitchers themselves, like I mean, 600 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, we had podcasts last year where 601 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: we talked about like, man if Christian Xavier does come 602 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: back and he's like the Javier of old, like this 603 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: could be this, this could be something like he was like, 604 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a legit. He could be a legit 605 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: number two at his best. And but it's more of 606 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: just like you can't count on that right when these 607 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: guys come back from major reconstructive surgery, like we have 608 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: the data to prove it, like we have the data 609 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: from other guys that come back, like their first seasons 610 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: are their first time back, it usually doesn't go great, 611 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: like the Verlander year where he was a unanimous cy 612 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: Young winner after having TJ two years earlier. First of all, 613 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: he's a freak. He's a unicorn that doesn't happen. He 614 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: like Ustin Verlanders on another planet. But also he came 615 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: back after sixteen months because remember remember he came out 616 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: and said like he was trying to pitch in the 617 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one playoffs. He had TJ in twenty twenty, 618 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: had gotten up to basically was facing hitters in twenty 619 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: twenty one when the Ashers made the playoffs, and they 620 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: basically told him like, look, we're not gonna tell you no, 621 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: like we're not gonna tell you like you don't you 622 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: can't pitch. But also it probably is more it probably 623 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: is more better for your long term health that you don't. 624 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: So he shut it down and then he came back 625 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and won the cy Young Uman. 626 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: So it was the sy Old Award that year for him. 627 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 2: But yes, yeah, I mean, yeah, you're not gonna you 628 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: can't count on any of those guys, which again is 629 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: why you have so many depth pieces where it's like, well, 630 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: look if they come back and they're way better than 631 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: your other guys than great, but you're you're not counting 632 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: on that. 633 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: No. So I think I think as you start to 634 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: look at it, like right, like they cannot repeat that 635 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: mistake of what they did all last season at the deadline. 636 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: What they you know, I think we all understood that 637 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: the need to go improve the lineup at the deadline. 638 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: They tried to do that. It did not work, but 639 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: they probably it probably would have been more prudent for 640 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: them to find pitching to to get an not they 641 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 1: didn't try. They tried to get Dylan Ceas very very 642 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: hard and it just didn't work out. So Yeah, the 643 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: the other thing is like the depth guys like you 644 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: don't like. I think it is a positive. I think 645 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: it is something that they can at least take some 646 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: solace in that. You know, Look, I don't think Colton 647 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: Gordon's breaking camp with the big league team. I think 648 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: there would have to be I think he would have 649 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: to absolutely just open a ton of eyes in spring 650 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: training or there would have to be a complete deluge 651 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: of injuries for him to break camp with the team. 652 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say. I think the same thing for 653 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: aj Blueball, I think that is a I think he's like, 654 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: maybe the least. 655 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: Is going to come to the spring and dominate, So sure, 656 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 2: scratch that one off. 657 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: JP France I think is in the same boat. I 658 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: think it's and Jason Alexander I think also so like, 659 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: but those four guys have pitched extensively at the big 660 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: league level. Like, it's not a situation where like, and 661 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: this is no offense to these guys, but it's not 662 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: like a situation where like, if you need a starter 663 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: in May, you're calling up Ethan Peco to can make 664 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: his debut in a a in a spot, in a 665 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: tough spot, right like you can give It allows you 666 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: to give guys like Peco and Bryce Mayor and maybe 667 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: James Hicks and Miguel yoa like. It allows you to 668 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: give them more time, develop them, let them pitch and 669 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: triple a little bit, let them get into their seasons. 670 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: So you're not I mean, when did blue Ball make 671 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: his debut last year, like may like like very early 672 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: in the season, So like, you're not calling these guys 673 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: so early when they've barely had time to get their 674 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: feet under them. So I think that's an inherent positive. 675 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 1: Is that your your next line of defense? Like those 676 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: four guys I just mentioned three of them and Alexander 677 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: Gordon and blue Baugh have extensive big league experience, are 678 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: not going to be are not going to be like 679 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: Wold by the lights, by the deck like anything like that. 680 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: And then you have MIGUELI. Yola, who is on the forty, 681 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: who will probably debut this year. I think he's probably 682 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: more suited for a reliever role. But I think that's 683 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: also something that they haven't had in years past, like 684 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: they have. 685 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: What if he's not what if he's awesome? 686 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: Who you know, Yola? Yola? 687 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: I sure, what if he's just awesome? 688 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: You know? I think if anything, I think, if anything 689 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: you take away from the thirty six minutes we have 690 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: talked is that there are so many opportunities for guys 691 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: to come in and steal spots. 692 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: Like someone has to be good. So someone of the 693 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 2: people we just named has to be good. 694 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: Like there's like we've we said it at the beginning, 695 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: there's two and a half rotation spots guaranteed when you 696 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: get to camp. And I'm almost willing to say, I'm 697 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: always most willing to ya, he's getting spot in the rotation. 698 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: So you have three rotation spots guaranteed, Brown, Javier Burroughs. 699 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: And then after that we told you guys kind of 700 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: what the informed speculation would be. Like it seems it's 701 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: going to go that way. But no, like if Miguel 702 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: Yola comes into camp and is throwing strikes, and I mean, 703 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: this team put Cam Smith on the big league club 704 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: last year solely off of what he did in right field, 705 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: in right field, a position that he has never played before. 706 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: All the guys that are pitching have pitched before. So 707 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: that's good, like there is precedent here that like if 708 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: if these young guys come to camp and not even 709 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: have to be young guys like Dana Brown has shown 710 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: he values on field performance. He is a scout through 711 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: and through, like he likes what he can see with 712 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: his eyes. He likes to be sees on the field 713 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: in competition. It will be a situation where if these 714 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: guys come to spring training and perform, you know, they 715 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: could steal spots and it could be not nowhere near straightforward, 716 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: is what we just talked about. 717 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, it's it's interesting, but you know, like we said, 718 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: they it would still be great to add you know 719 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 2: a little bit there. But I mean, honestly, like I've 720 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: been saying, like if the season started tomorrow, the Astros 721 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 2: are not in panic mode. If it had started a 722 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 2: month ago, who knows what would happen. But they have 723 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 2: added enough now that at least, you know, Okay, as 724 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: the season starts, we can kind of figure things out. 725 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 2: We can add where we need to. Uh, and you 726 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 2: still have some you know, big trade chips from the 727 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 2: major league team where if you decide we really need 728 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: a number two starter, you know you're you're able to 729 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 2: go and get one. 730 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: This is like, this is not breaking news, but it's 731 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: kind of funny. The Astros just sent Jim Crane's putting 732 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: on a golf tournament in West Palm Beach. Good for him, 733 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: but they sent advisory to the media that wants to 734 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: like apply for credentials or whatever to go cover this 735 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: thing in Florida. It's in it's in late January, and 736 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: like I'm reading through all the celebrities and athletes that 737 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: they have listed in this Astros press release that are 738 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: going to be participating in the and what is called 739 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 1: the Jim Crane Celebrity Classic. Come justin Burlander. Yeah, there 740 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: he is. 741 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: Did they make tight golf pants they have? Yeah, justin Verlander. 742 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: We'll be playing in the Jim Crane Celebrity Classic, not 743 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: a you know, yeah, I mean it's I don't know 744 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: how much much more. 745 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe if pretty money is the issue, they can find, 746 00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 2: you know, a Kawhi Tree job for Verlander and four 747 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 2: million and just have some other secret way of paying him. 748 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: But again, maybe they just give him a you know, 749 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 2: one of the Papa's restaurants and just say, like, you 750 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 2: take this one. You can have the papasitos in Webster 751 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 2: and that's your payment for the year. 752 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: There are a lot of there are a lot of 753 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: like interesting names on this thing, a lot of washed 754 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: up rappers. Wow, name them Urban Meyer, Urban Meyer, Robinson Cano. Yeah, 755 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: Kyle's legend, Kyle Tucker, Kyle Tuger. There we go. 756 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: Do you think he bats or do you think he 757 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 2: swings left handed? He feels like a guy that golf's right. 758 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: Tell a bunch of golf stuff on his Instagram lately. 759 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: I could probably go look and see. Yeah, let's see 760 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: Michael Brantley, cam Smith. 761 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: There we go. Everyone's gonna go hang out with Jim Crean, 762 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: all the astros legends. 763 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna go hang out with Jim Crean for a 764 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: weekend in West Palm Beach, Florida, including Justin Barlander. So 765 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: that'll be fun. Who knows. Maybe he'll be a part 766 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: of the pitching staff, maybe he won't. But all we 767 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: can do is know. All we can talk about is 768 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: what they have at it and what we know is done. 769 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: And that's what we did today. 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