WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Predicting the Pick

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys. Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 6>And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 7>It is Wednesday, April twenty fourth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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<v Speaker 7>episode number four. It's a lot of twenties and fours

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<v Speaker 7>in here.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the Break.

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<v Speaker 7>We are presented by LG and today we're getting you

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<v Speaker 7>ready for the NFL Draft.

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<v Speaker 4>It takes place.

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<v Speaker 7>It starts tomorrow, Round one, tomorrow, Round two and three

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<v Speaker 7>on Friday, and then the remainder of the rounds on

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<v Speaker 7>Saturday will have wald all coverage. Brian will be a

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<v Speaker 7>part of that, Patrick will be a part of that.

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<v Speaker 7>Amber will be a part of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody.

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<v Speaker 7>It's all hands on deck to cover the draft. We

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<v Speaker 7>hope you will join us for that. But today I

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<v Speaker 7>want to start first by talking a little bit about

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<v Speaker 7>the press conference that happened yesterday. Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones,

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<v Speaker 7>and Mike McCarthy all took some time with the media

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<v Speaker 7>to answer questions, and it felt a little less about

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<v Speaker 7>draft and a little more about team building one oh

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<v Speaker 7>one and salary caps and everything else. But I want

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<v Speaker 7>to first go around the room and just get general

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<v Speaker 7>thoughts on what you heard from press conference, any particular

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<v Speaker 7>things that stood out to you that you thought that

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<v Speaker 7>you thought were particularly interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Briant's start start with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, again, this is my opinion coming from one O

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<v Speaker 5>five to three, the fan from the outside of it

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<v Speaker 5>in you know, I did the work here with you guys,

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<v Speaker 5>But I felt like this is the first time Stephen

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<v Speaker 5>Jones doesn't like to talk about contracts generally. He pointed

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<v Speaker 5>the finger yesterday at the agent community a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>on some of these contracts. And I mean this in

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<v Speaker 5>a way that you know, when he was talking about, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>these guys talk. These guys, you know, they have ideas,

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<v Speaker 5>they know numbers and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>You see.

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<v Speaker 5>The Cowboys are a team like, hey, we're not going

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<v Speaker 5>to comment about that. We're not going to combat I

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<v Speaker 5>sent some frustration with Stephen Jones yesterday and the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that he feels like that some of these agents again

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<v Speaker 5>their ability to talk to each other and then maybe

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<v Speaker 5>holding up deals. We always, I know, on our end

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<v Speaker 5>of it, give the Cowboys a lot agree for what

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<v Speaker 5>happens with some of these contracts. It's a two way street.

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<v Speaker 5>My experience of working in the National Football League is

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<v Speaker 5>you have to have people that are willing to make

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<v Speaker 5>deals with you if you're going to do this. But

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of us blame the Cowboys for not doing deals,

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<v Speaker 5>and to me, I sensed frustration from Stephen Jones, which

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<v Speaker 5>I'd never had before. But I felt like he pointed

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<v Speaker 5>the finger at the agent community a little bit yesterday

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<v Speaker 5>and said, listen, we'll do deals. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 5>the right number, but we'll do deals. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think he's right. I think the first time,

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<v Speaker 5>and this is my opinion, that the first time they

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<v Speaker 5>did the Dak Prescott deal, you had an agent that

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<v Speaker 5>was switching from one agency to another. He was not

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<v Speaker 5>going to put new money with an old agency, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's why you got held up on a deal.

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<v Speaker 5>I think agents are holding up on deals now. We

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<v Speaker 5>saw a big deal today for a wide receiver, which

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<v Speaker 5>is good. The Lions got their deal done with Saint Brown.

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<v Speaker 5>Good for them, but you have to have people that

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<v Speaker 5>are willing to talk to you and willing to negotiate

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<v Speaker 5>along the way. I sense frustration from Stephen Jones on

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<v Speaker 5>that front.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, there was definitely some frustration and a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>of defensiveness from both Steven and Jerry as far as

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<v Speaker 8>the team building, the questions that they were kind of

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<v Speaker 8>violding back and forth, and it seems like it's a

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<v Speaker 8>situation where if you go back and you look at

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<v Speaker 8>last summer, you look at what they were able to

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<v Speaker 8>do with Trevon Diggs and getting that deal done early, right,

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<v Speaker 8>that's ideally with the Cowboys and how they would like

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<v Speaker 8>to handle their cornerstone players.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's a two way street.

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<v Speaker 8>As Bran's saying, the agents, the representation for these players,

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<v Speaker 8>they have to agree with the numbers that you're presenting.

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<v Speaker 8>You have to agree with the numbers they're presenting. And

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<v Speaker 8>then it's bigger than numbers. It's how how's the money

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<v Speaker 8>breaking down, what's the term, et cetera, et cetera. So

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<v Speaker 8>clearly there's some frustration there. It seems as if there're

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<v Speaker 8>some frustrated with where they are in the cap as well,

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<v Speaker 8>Jerry saying something like we we're embracing not having cap space. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 8>that's not gonna go over well with fans because the

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<v Speaker 8>fans are looking around the league. They're looking at teams

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<v Speaker 8>like the Philadelphia Eagles and Howie Roseman. They're looking at

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<v Speaker 8>what the Rams were able to do, you know, in

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<v Speaker 8>the years preceding what ultimately turned out to be a

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<v Speaker 8>Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Then picks right and push the cap all right.

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<v Speaker 8>They want to see the Cowboys be that kind of

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<v Speaker 8>aggressive and finesse and massage the salary cap in those capacities.

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<v Speaker 8>But Steven said, you know, the Cowboys, they're focused on

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<v Speaker 8>making this draft one of the best ones ever.

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<v Speaker 6>And now you don't really have a choice.

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<v Speaker 8>That's that's kind of where you are because it has

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<v Speaker 8>to be your defacto free agency. So biggest takeaway for

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<v Speaker 8>me for me is that the Cowboys are frustrated that

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<v Speaker 8>they don't have these deals done on at least one

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<v Speaker 8>of their cornerstone players of the Big Three Micah, which

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<v Speaker 8>is has a little bit more time, but CD and

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<v Speaker 8>Dak you want those done right now. But interesting and

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<v Speaker 8>interestingly enough, when I positioned the question in front of Jerry,

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<v Speaker 8>Steven and Mike regarding the possibility of drafting a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 8>If there's a premier quarterback steering you in the face

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<v Speaker 8>at twenty four, you have uncertainty with Dak Prescott going forward.

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<v Speaker 8>You have uncertainty with Trey Lance going forward. If it's

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<v Speaker 8>steering you in the face, what do you do? And

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<v Speaker 8>hence Jerry's reply, we want Dak Prescott And that was

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<v Speaker 8>one of the more definitive statements that Jerry said on yesterday,

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<v Speaker 8>and we'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 7>I did have one question for you when you were

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<v Speaker 7>talking about kind of how they've constructed the team. I

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<v Speaker 7>kind of took the impression, or got the impression that

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<v Speaker 7>what Jerry was saying was we've spent the last three

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<v Speaker 7>four years being what they now. We can all question

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<v Speaker 7>whether it really is aggressive, but they think over the

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<v Speaker 7>last three or four years, they think that's been the

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<v Speaker 7>period when they have been aggressive and they have surrounded

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<v Speaker 7>Dak with premier talent and had one of the best

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<v Speaker 7>rosters in the league.

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<v Speaker 4>And now it's time to pay that bill.

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<v Speaker 7>Like he kept going back to, hey, it's that credit card,

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<v Speaker 7>like we've been paying, Yeah, we've been paying on that

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<v Speaker 7>credit card roll and didn't work right. Exactly, That's exactly

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<v Speaker 7>that it sounded to me was that essentially they were

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<v Speaker 7>going these last several years, they've been pushing and we

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<v Speaker 7>know every year we get to Austin and they'd be like,

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<v Speaker 7>restructure this guy, restructured this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not they were just trying.

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<v Speaker 7>They were trying to hold it all together and give

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<v Speaker 7>themselves a little more chance and keep that roster together.

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<v Speaker 7>And now they're gonna have to embrace the fact that

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<v Speaker 7>they don't have that flexibility anymore because the rules of

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<v Speaker 7>NFL don't allow them to have that flexibilitynymore. And they

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<v Speaker 7>got to pay the bill.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not how you took it, that is how I

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<v Speaker 8>took it. But it's two things are true. That's true,

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<v Speaker 8>the bill will always come due. It's also true that

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<v Speaker 8>there are levels of footness when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 8>salary cap that I feel like the Cowboys could slightly

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<v Speaker 8>improve upon. We talk about teams like the Eagles of

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<v Speaker 8>the Rams. There are teams the New Orleans Saints in

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<v Speaker 8>the Drew Brees era. There are teams that have shown

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<v Speaker 8>that they're operating within the same rules, the same parameters

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<v Speaker 8>that Jerry Jones and the Cowboys mentioned yesterday so vehemently.

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<v Speaker 7>They've done that though, I guess is the question because

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<v Speaker 7>the way I understand it, that day is coming from

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<v Speaker 7>for the Eagles here in the next one, two three years.

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<v Speaker 7>There's but and again we'll see, and I've said this

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<v Speaker 7>on Twitter, Will hear Will we will see.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether it gets the waiting.

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<v Speaker 7>But that's where I look at it, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 7>if if I do know what happened for the Rams,

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<v Speaker 7>and the Rams have to reset, and we saw that happen,

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<v Speaker 7>but they want a championship and effectively, yeah, and they

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<v Speaker 7>did a nice reset, but they also they did it

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<v Speaker 7>with the draft. After they said f and picks, right,

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<v Speaker 7>they figured out how to do it with the draft.

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<v Speaker 7>They get a guy like pooking the coup and now

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<v Speaker 7>they're back in the playoffs and ready to run.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>But but I think I think teams do have to

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<v Speaker 7>go through this reset. It's a matter of how effectively

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<v Speaker 7>they go through the reset when they get to this

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<v Speaker 7>point where the bill comes due, because I think the

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<v Speaker 7>bill does come to But it's also.

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<v Speaker 6>The timing of the reset.

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<v Speaker 8>So if you look at it contextually, for the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 8>look at the timing in which this reset is occurring.

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<v Speaker 8>You are a head coach on this final year that

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<v Speaker 8>you've not extended a quarterback of GB one, MVP front

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<v Speaker 8>run under all pro record setter, final year of his

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<v Speaker 8>deal not extended, Ceedee Lamb, arguably the best wide receiver

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<v Speaker 8>in the league. You want to get him extended, Michael

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<v Speaker 8>Parson's generational talent. The list goes on and on the

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<v Speaker 8>timing of such a reset. It's working against them. But

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<v Speaker 8>what also makes it that much worse. And we talked

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<v Speaker 8>about this, and we talked about it offline all the time,

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<v Speaker 8>and this is why they've been defending this statement. And

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<v Speaker 8>Jerry kind of trolled everyone a bit with the statement

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<v Speaker 8>all in the fact that Jerry said all in at

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<v Speaker 8>the Senior Bowl, and he did playfully troll everyone by

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<v Speaker 8>saying that again if he didn't attach that label to

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<v Speaker 8>this offseason, only to find out that this offseason was

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<v Speaker 8>going to be.

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<v Speaker 6>The antithesis of that.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what makes it that much more difficult for fans

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<v Speaker 8>to try to compute what's the vision here, because you're right,

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<v Speaker 8>this is likely a soft reset, maybe not a hard reset, but.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not getting rid of all their parts, but it

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<v Speaker 4>is somewhat, but the.

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<v Speaker 6>Timing of it is just very, very bad.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the thing that they're really they won't admit it,

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<v Speaker 5>but they're pissed off that some of these contras didn't

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<v Speaker 5>work out for him. I think that's the thing that's

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<v Speaker 5>bothered them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think I think if if you if.

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<v Speaker 5>You had you pulled Steven aside and you had a

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<v Speaker 5>scotch with him, the one thing if he said can

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<v Speaker 5>you do something over he said, yeah, maybe some of

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<v Speaker 5>these contracts I wouldn't have gone the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way I did.

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<v Speaker 5>You know that that didn't work out that And and Jerry,

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<v Speaker 5>I think, brought it up about the money with Zeke

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<v Speaker 5>and how it prevents you from signing Tyrant Smith. You

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<v Speaker 5>know that maybe maybe some of these bad contracts that

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<v Speaker 5>they Yeah, exactly, Zach Martin and we're at training camp.

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<v Speaker 5>Were all sitting there and it's oh, it's day twenty

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<v Speaker 5>six of Zach Martin holding out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, oh look out, yeah, you're about to

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<v Speaker 2>get hit the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>But but see, that's that's to me where I think

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<v Speaker 5>that the fact that the bills come due, they're frustrated

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<v Speaker 5>with the agent community, and that they're also in a

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<v Speaker 5>situation where they made some bad deals. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>that's the one thing that pisses them off. They they've

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<v Speaker 5>made a bunch of bad deals in their life their

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<v Speaker 5>business man. They've also made some great ones too. But

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<v Speaker 5>I think if you, if you pulled them aside, they

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<v Speaker 5>would say, if we had to do something over there

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<v Speaker 5>are probably two or three incidents that they would look

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<v Speaker 5>at and say, we would be better, we'd be in

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<v Speaker 5>better shape if we just had done this. Our plan

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<v Speaker 5>was this, but it wasn't good enough.

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<v Speaker 9>See for me, it's easy. And if you guys, those

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<v Speaker 9>who have not listened to the press conference, I highly

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<v Speaker 9>suggest it because, like you guys mentioned, it's something different,

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<v Speaker 9>very different than what we are used to watching and

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<v Speaker 9>hearing from those guys Jerry Jones, Stephen jones E, and

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<v Speaker 9>Mike McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was barely Jerry drugg him in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm good, Jerry made.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry made him an offensive line expert.

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<v Speaker 9>What I was gonna say, so to me, And I've

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<v Speaker 9>been one of those, and I'm not a cap expert,

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<v Speaker 9>don't care to be one. It's very because so many

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<v Speaker 9>different factors of it. It's so complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was one of.

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<v Speaker 9>Those sitting on this show with you guys several months

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<v Speaker 9>ago of like, Okay, why they have the ability or

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<v Speaker 9>that they can restructor X, Y and Z, and they haven't,

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<v Speaker 9>And it's easy to judge that way. And sure, maybe

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<v Speaker 9>there are some contracts that is like, okay, they didn't

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<v Speaker 9>pan out. And I highly, highly truly believe that they

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<v Speaker 9>missed their chance last year. That was the year where

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<v Speaker 9>they had everything needed to get.

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<v Speaker 4>And they missed it in a way that was so.

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<v Speaker 9>Just exactly so where I'm trying to get at. Once

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<v Speaker 9>you start peeling all the layers and laying everything out,

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<v Speaker 9>all the contracts and everything, and you start going through

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<v Speaker 9>it and really analyzing everything, you start giving them some

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<v Speaker 9>grace and thinking, okay, well crap, like you really you're

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<v Speaker 9>really tied. You cannot do anything because it's not a

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<v Speaker 9>one year it's not this year thing. You have to

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<v Speaker 9>look at next year, the following year. You have to

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<v Speaker 9>look even sometimes four years out to where things and

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<v Speaker 9>the money is affecting you. So even though I don't

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<v Speaker 9>know all the disclosures in contracts and all of that,

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<v Speaker 9>it's not as simple. It's not as simple as because

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<v Speaker 9>I've been there myself getting upset and being like why

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<v Speaker 9>you see other teams doing this and that. But I

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<v Speaker 9>do know this, Jerry Jones, he's a great businessman, so

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<v Speaker 9>I know he has great people that know how to

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<v Speaker 9>handle money and distribute and all of that. So I

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<v Speaker 9>know there's a history there of people that are actually

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<v Speaker 9>very very knowledgeable on the job and how to move

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<v Speaker 9>money around. So anyways, the point is they had their chance.

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<v Speaker 9>They're all in was last year, and then now they're

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<v Speaker 9>just having to pay all the receipts.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Jerry even said it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like you have your bank account, but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you have all these bills, and now you're giving plasma

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<v Speaker 5>so you can get ten bucks so you can eat

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<v Speaker 5>dinner that night. You know, you know your bank account

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<v Speaker 5>looks really good, and then all of a sudden you

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<v Speaker 5>realize you've got a month's where the bill's coming up.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they're to the point now, and maybe it's

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<v Speaker 5>maybe it's going to be sacrificed in the quarterback here.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it is. I'm just I'm just saying they're looking

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<v Speaker 5>at it. I think that we can't kick the can

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<v Speaker 5>any further down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't.

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<v Speaker 5>We've kicked it as far as we can as a group.

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<v Speaker 5>We agreed last year was their best opportunity. Now you

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<v Speaker 5>have to pay the bill. We've all had a great dinner,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we're all we're all liquored up and ready

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<v Speaker 5>to go home, you know. But somebody's got to pay

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<v Speaker 5>the bill. And now they're having to pay that bill.

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<v Speaker 5>And they, yeah, do they have the money, do they

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<v Speaker 5>have the switches? Sure they can't. I think they're to

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<v Speaker 5>the point that they've made the decision like we've kicked

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<v Speaker 5>this can as far as we can. We can't do

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<v Speaker 5>it anymore. And so that's why I think they're in

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<v Speaker 5>the position from there in right.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, I was going to say, here's here's because I

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<v Speaker 8>like to put on different hats to look at things

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<v Speaker 8>from different angles. So from a Jerry Jones Stephen Jones' perspective,

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<v Speaker 8>salary cap, yes, they don't want to kick the can.

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<v Speaker 8>They can restructures digs and Malik Hooker and it can happen,

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<v Speaker 8>but they don't want to because that bill is the bill.

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<v Speaker 8>But then put on Mike McCarthy's head. Now, he will

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<v Speaker 8>never show this visibly, and he might not even it

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<v Speaker 8>might not even be an internal thought for him. But

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<v Speaker 8>if I'm Mike McCarthy and I know that I only

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<v Speaker 8>have this final year to prove myself what you're basically

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<v Speaker 8>asking me to do, which is fine because I'm up

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<v Speaker 8>to the task. But the reality is the reality is

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<v Speaker 8>that you're asking me to deliver you at a super

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<v Speaker 8>Bowl esque.

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<v Speaker 6>Run with a lot of young talent.

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<v Speaker 8>Well that you're asking to step up, which you will

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<v Speaker 8>include a class full of rookies.

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<v Speaker 5>But you but you know, last year, I gave you

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<v Speaker 5>a team with all these pro bowlers and so you

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<v Speaker 5>know what, Mike McCarthy, really, honestly, and I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 5>this to be mean, he doesn't have a leg to

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<v Speaker 5>stand on right now. If you look at the way

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<v Speaker 5>we're talking right now, if you look at last year

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<v Speaker 5>as the all in best chance as as an organization,

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<v Speaker 5>they didn't deliver. And he's he's at the top of that,

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<v Speaker 5>the general managers at the top of the list, but

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<v Speaker 5>then the head coach is the next. So Mike McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 5>as he looks at this, he's now going to have

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<v Speaker 5>to play the hand he's dealt. He had a winning hand,

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<v Speaker 5>He had a winning hand at the table, and but

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<v Speaker 5>they drew the dealer drew a straight flush on him

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<v Speaker 5>or something, you know, I mean, cards you know how

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<v Speaker 5>that goes. He had the hand to win, they didn't deliver,

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<v Speaker 5>and now he's got to look at this and say,

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<v Speaker 5>I had my chance.

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<v Speaker 2>If they move on, you know, I don't like it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I understand.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think also I'm growing a little tired of

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<v Speaker 7>the conversation that paints the picture that the Cowboys are.

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<v Speaker 7>Now this team that has no talent like.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, they'll never be bad.

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<v Speaker 7>They when you say, when you say, well, he's kind

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<v Speaker 7>of dealt his hand with the team, I look at it.

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<v Speaker 7>I really saw this and it was interesting. It was

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<v Speaker 7>on one O five dot three the Fan the other morning.

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<v Speaker 7>I heard Sean and r J and Bobby. They were

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<v Speaker 7>citing an article where this this rider had done used

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<v Speaker 7>artificial intelligence to be able to identify the rosters and

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<v Speaker 7>rate the rosters a crown in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to know a Dallas fell in that number seven,

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<v Speaker 4>number seven, And.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, okay, so yes, it's not as good a

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<v Speaker 7>roster as last year because it lost a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>its depth. One thing we know about this scene is

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<v Speaker 7>they tend to draft pretty well, so they'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Replenish some of them. They will never be bad for

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<v Speaker 2>that reason.

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<v Speaker 4>They will of that. Maybe they won't get it all back,

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<v Speaker 4>but they'll replenish some of that.

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<v Speaker 7>This is still a good enough roster to go where

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<v Speaker 7>you want to go this next year. Now, who knows

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<v Speaker 7>what it'll be beyond that, Because again I look at it,

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<v Speaker 7>when people start saying they have all these levers they

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<v Speaker 7>can pull, it's like a person that's now falling into well,

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<v Speaker 7>they're already in a hole and you're throwing them a

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<v Speaker 7>shovel instead of a rope, like if you Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 7>can push these levers, but pushing these revers stuff is

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<v Speaker 7>just going to worsen the problem, is going to put

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<v Speaker 7>them farther down in that hole.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, It just doesn't solve the problem.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's not really a solution to say you can

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<v Speaker 7>push these you can pull these levers and restructure these

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<v Speaker 7>guys and push the money down the road. You really

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<v Speaker 7>don't have that flexibility anymore. It's best to say, let

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<v Speaker 7>me pay my bill, let me get out of debt,

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<v Speaker 7>let me be fiscally responsible, and then I can restart

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<v Speaker 7>and say, Okay, now I can get aggressive again. I

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<v Speaker 7>got my money back to where I need to have

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<v Speaker 7>it right now I can get aggressive again.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's how you have to.

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<v Speaker 5>I just never feel like I feel like this team

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<v Speaker 5>will always be in this I don't mean this is

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<v Speaker 5>a slam to Jason Garrett. They'll always be an eight

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<v Speaker 5>and eight team. As long as they let these guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Drafty, they will figure this out.

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<v Speaker 5>They will find a quarterback, they will find talent around

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<v Speaker 5>as long as they let them pick players, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>give them compensatories, let them assign you to undrafted free agents,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe dabble in the free agent market a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>if they can. They're just too good at personnel here,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they really are. They know they'll never be

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<v Speaker 5>that now. They'll lose players, but they will find ways

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<v Speaker 5>to replace these guys.

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<v Speaker 8>And let's be clear because and I'm on the record

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<v Speaker 8>of saying this, but let's be clear for those that

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<v Speaker 8>are listening.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe the Cowboys have plenty of talent. Right. So

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<v Speaker 6>if you go back to the statement, it's youth.

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<v Speaker 8>So if I'm putting on the McCarthy had, it's not

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<v Speaker 8>that I'm concerned about the talent. It's the youth and

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<v Speaker 8>that lack of experience and a lot of unproven guys.

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<v Speaker 8>Look at your running backs room, for example, before you

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<v Speaker 8>enter this draft, it's a lot of unproven experience, and

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<v Speaker 8>you're looking at these unproven guys and saying, you have

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<v Speaker 8>to take us to a super Bowl. You have to

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<v Speaker 8>help us go to a super Bowl. Now, of course, again,

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<v Speaker 8>as a coach, particularly a guy's competitive is Mike McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 8>you're taking that challenge on head on. And I love

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<v Speaker 8>what you said, and that doesn't really have a leg

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<v Speaker 8>stand on. And to that point though, combining with what

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<v Speaker 8>you said, yes, the Cowboys have a lot of talent

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<v Speaker 8>on this roster, but they hemorrhaged talent and talent and

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<v Speaker 8>free agency. So if their best shot in recent memory,

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<v Speaker 8>like you said, was this past January and that fell

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<v Speaker 8>short with that roster, and to your own admission, the

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<v Speaker 8>current roster as we have this conversation is less talented,

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<v Speaker 8>still talented, but less talented than the roster that failed

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<v Speaker 8>in January. Now you can see where fans get concern.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's where Sam Williams and Tolbert and these guys

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<v Speaker 5>as Tolbert is is Tolbert needs to play better because

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<v Speaker 5>Michael Gallup's gone, you know, and all those edge rushers

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<v Speaker 5>are now gone, Armstrong Fowler, Sam Williams you need to

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<v Speaker 5>step up and play better. You know, Junior Forjoco, they

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<v Speaker 5>drafted you for a reason. You know, you have to

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<v Speaker 5>figure out a way. Mozzie Smith, you got to figure

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<v Speaker 5>this thing out, you know. So to me, they the talent.

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<v Speaker 5>The talent we talk about young talent. They've got talented

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<v Speaker 5>football players. The problem is they've got to play like

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<v Speaker 5>talented football players.

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<v Speaker 7>And you ain't always a problem. Look at the Green

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<v Speaker 7>Bay Packers, look at the Houston Texas from last year.

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<v Speaker 7>Both rosters were just litany of young guys who were

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<v Speaker 7>just getting into the NFL and figuring.

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<v Speaker 4>It out and got the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 7>So if we trust the fact that they can draft, well,

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<v Speaker 7>then trust these guys to get out there and play

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<v Speaker 7>and let's see what they can do when you give

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<v Speaker 7>them that responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>You're about to see that absolutely.

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<v Speaker 7>And by the way, I want to see I want

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<v Speaker 7>to see some guys that they that they mentioned, like

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<v Speaker 7>a Sam william We're gonna get into some of this

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit late.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna take a.

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<v Speaker 7>Break, but I want to see a guy like a

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<v Speaker 7>Sam Williams, if you give him more opportunity, what does

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<v Speaker 7>he do with it?

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<v Speaker 4>Because maybe we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just but it's true. Like there's all these for

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<v Speaker 2>or that you used to take. I take a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't use it all, use it all.

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<v Speaker 5>I lost it all in a press box and Dallas,

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<v Speaker 5>and I hope he went right out the way.

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<v Speaker 7>maybe get some names of some guys that you should

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<v Speaker 7>blockchain dot Com. All right, let's talk about the defensive

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<v Speaker 7>side of the ball heading into the draft. Got a

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<v Speaker 7>simple question for you guys, which would you think of

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<v Speaker 7>these three areas is the biggest area that Dallas needs

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<v Speaker 7>to focus on in the draft this year? Defensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 7>defensive end or linebacker?

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<v Speaker 14>Jump in Garcia, what do you think defensive tackle, defensive end,

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<v Speaker 14>or a linebacker.

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<v Speaker 9>That's a tough question because I have my doubts on

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<v Speaker 9>defensive tackle and linebacker. Okay, right now, I think I

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<v Speaker 9>trust a little bit more the linebacker position than the

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<v Speaker 9>defensive tackle. And that says a lot because you got

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<v Speaker 9>the Marvin Overshan coming back from an injury, highly unknown.

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<v Speaker 9>He's only played, you know, in the preseason, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 9>Then you got you do have the veteran that you

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<v Speaker 9>sign and there's some experience there. Yeah, he.

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<v Speaker 2>His age. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm still like I'm wanting to see even though we've

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<v Speaker 9>talked about him and all of that, but he he

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<v Speaker 9>has the experience with Mike Zimmer and all of that

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<v Speaker 9>that he brings in. But going back to defensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 9>and I get it, Massy Smith. I trust the evaluation

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<v Speaker 9>and the reason that he got drafted in the first

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<v Speaker 9>round and everything, but right now, nothing that I saw

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<v Speaker 9>last year. And that this doesn't mean that I'm giving

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<v Speaker 9>up on him at all whatsoever. This is his second

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<v Speaker 9>year and I'm excited to see if he has grown there.

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<v Speaker 9>But I just don't I feel like I trust the

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<v Speaker 9>position at the moment, especially with all the issues that

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<v Speaker 9>you had at stopping the run. The linebacker shoot help

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<v Speaker 9>by that as well, but at the moment I have

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<v Speaker 9>defensive tackle a little higher than linebacker.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, one of the best players on the in the

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<v Speaker 5>draft is a defensive tackle Byron Murphy from Texas, but

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<v Speaker 5>he's a three technique. The problem you're running into is

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<v Speaker 5>you don't have a true one technique here because you're

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<v Speaker 5>trying to figure out what you're gonna do with Mazzi.

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<v Speaker 5>You've lost the depth with Hankins walking out the door

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<v Speaker 5>and others, so you really don't have a one this

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<v Speaker 5>draft isn't particularly deep for one technique guys either. McKinley

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<v Speaker 5>Jackson from Texas A and M is a guy that's

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<v Speaker 5>a three hundred and twenty six pound guy. He's probably

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<v Speaker 5>a fourth round pick on a lot of boards. You

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<v Speaker 5>don't have a fourth round pick. You have a pick

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<v Speaker 5>at eighty seven unless you get another pick, and you're

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<v Speaker 5>you know, that's to me, that's it would be. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit of a reach if you pick him

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<v Speaker 5>at eight. Now you're trying to use valuable third round

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<v Speaker 5>draft capital to make up for a position that you

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<v Speaker 5>drafted last year in the first round because you're not sure.

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<v Speaker 5>The linebacker position goes a little bit deeper here. I

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<v Speaker 5>think these linebackers on your board are kind of trade

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<v Speaker 5>back guys. If say some of these offensive linemen are

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<v Speaker 5>not on the board for you, or you don't like

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<v Speaker 5>the particular tackle or your center's not there, then maybe

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<v Speaker 5>you can find a way to trade back. And then

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<v Speaker 5>this is where Peyton Wilson, the linebacker from North Carolina

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<v Speaker 5>State comes into play. Cooper from Texas A and M

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<v Speaker 5>comes in play. Colston the linebacker from Michigan comes into

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<v Speaker 5>play here. So to me, it's the linebacker gets addressed

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<v Speaker 5>on a trade back potentially first the defensive tackle, unless

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<v Speaker 5>you want to take Byron Murphy. And again that's a

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<v Speaker 5>three technique jump up to get him though, right, That's

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying. There's some people that feel like that,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe that if he were to slide, if he were

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<v Speaker 5>the one guy that all of a sudden, there's such

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<v Speaker 5>a run on offensive players that they lose track of

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<v Speaker 5>Byron Murphy, then you know, that might be the best

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<v Speaker 5>player on your board. Yeah, but he plays a position

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<v Speaker 5>that you you have. Oh soo Diggy'swa who I think

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<v Speaker 5>is a really good player, but he, you know, Murphy

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<v Speaker 5>and Osa. Yeah, it'd be great to have those two

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<v Speaker 5>rush in the passer, but we still haven't addressed the

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<v Speaker 5>one technique. Now does that Mazie Smith? You know, we'll

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<v Speaker 5>see how that plays. But I only feel like that

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<v Speaker 5>the defensive players will be there or potential for the

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<v Speaker 5>drafting of a defensive player if it's a trade back,

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<v Speaker 5>that's where I think that that's and I think they

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<v Speaker 5>would probably address the linebacker before they would address the

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<v Speaker 5>defensive tackle. Would be my guest as well.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh, I'm obviously a build defense from the front to

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<v Speaker 8>the back type guy. So my inclination is to say

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<v Speaker 8>defensive tackles. But going into the draft, before they make

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<v Speaker 8>any any selection, I keep defaulting to the linebackers only

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<v Speaker 8>because there are more and bigger un knowns at linebacker.

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<v Speaker 8>So at linebacker, as it stands, you have de mont Clark,

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<v Speaker 8>you have Eric Kendricks, and then you have which basically

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<v Speaker 8>will be a red shirt and de Marveon Overshown coming

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<v Speaker 8>back from a torn acl so he has to get

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<v Speaker 8>back to form health wise, and then he has to

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<v Speaker 8>get through the rookie learning curve at one of the

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<v Speaker 8>more cerebral positions in professional football. But when you look

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<v Speaker 8>at the defensive tackle position, yes we have questions on

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<v Speaker 8>what will Masi Smith look like in year two? What

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<v Speaker 8>will his weight look like in year two? Is he

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<v Speaker 8>going to be at three held to a three? At

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<v Speaker 8>current weight? They're looking to bulk him up, but is

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<v Speaker 8>it going to be bulky enough to put him back

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<v Speaker 8>at one at the nose tackle?

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<v Speaker 6>But that's not as concerning.

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<v Speaker 8>It is concerning, but it's not as concerning as de

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<v Speaker 8>Marveion over shown and how quickly can he get to

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<v Speaker 8>form and become potentially a premier linebacker in this league.

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<v Speaker 8>We talked about Osa outstanding talent. I have no concerns

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<v Speaker 8>about Osa other than he's going into a contract year.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll talk about that when we need to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 8>But is ready to go right Chauncey Ghoston, He's shown

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<v Speaker 8>flashes mostly a special teams guy, but when he's been

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<v Speaker 8>given the chance rotationally on defense, particularly on the back

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<v Speaker 8>half of last season, he showed some good signs. Concern

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<v Speaker 8>there as far as unproving, but there's a potential to

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<v Speaker 8>do something there. So even before they make another pick,

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<v Speaker 8>or before they make a single pick, the defensive tackle

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<v Speaker 8>position in a vacuum, to me, is more important than

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<v Speaker 8>the linebacker position. But based on the pieces that are

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<v Speaker 8>on the table, I'm more concerned about linebacker than I

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<v Speaker 8>am defense.

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<v Speaker 9>Especially like Ryan said, I mean, just using the pick

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<v Speaker 9>last year on Mazie, it's hard to imagine them picking

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<v Speaker 9>someone at the defensive tackle a high pick.

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<v Speaker 5>This draft stretch is pretty good for you on the edges,

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<v Speaker 5>so I wasn't worried so much about grabbing an edge.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that you're going to have to be creative

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<v Speaker 5>to get a defensive tackle, though, especially one if you're

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<v Speaker 5>on a one technique.

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<v Speaker 2>And it might be a little bit of a reach.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, And that's the hope that if you pick up,

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<v Speaker 5>if you say you drop back to you can go back. Heck,

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<v Speaker 5>you could go back to Tampa and pick up a

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<v Speaker 5>fourth round pick that that's helpful. That's only going a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of spots, but you know it would be it

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<v Speaker 5>would really benefit you if you could grab a Day

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<v Speaker 5>three early pick, because when you pick at eighty seven

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<v Speaker 5>and you don't pick again until one seventy one, that

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<v Speaker 5>is a long day of all of a sudden, guys

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<v Speaker 5>going off that board and you're just watching them and

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<v Speaker 5>you and you have no way unless you jump back

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<v Speaker 5>in somehow and stop the bleeding. You can't call it

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<v Speaker 5>twenty second time out and try and get back. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe you do, but uh, it's the trading back aspect

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<v Speaker 5>of this. If their guy's not there, I think they

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<v Speaker 5>have to be prepared to try and go back. And heck,

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<v Speaker 5>you could take this thing all the way back to

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<v Speaker 5>Kansas City at thirty two and pick up a three

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<v Speaker 5>and pick up a four, and that would do you

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<v Speaker 5>some great things.

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<v Speaker 7>You get a three and a four. Yeah, wow, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>that could be huge.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you trade to San Francisco, you trade to Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 5>Baltimore's a team I don't think will come up. Baltimore

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<v Speaker 5>is a team that traditionally will just sit there and

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<v Speaker 5>good players fall to them. Happens every single year I've

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<v Speaker 5>ever been involved with a draft. So I think aggressive teams.

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<v Speaker 5>Buffalo aggressive team. I think San Francisco is an aggressive team.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Kansas City is a very aggressive team. Those

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<v Speaker 5>are guys. Maybe even Arizona at twenty seven might be

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<v Speaker 5>a team that you start to talk about. There's some

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<v Speaker 5>people we were doing the Draft show, Nick Harris was

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<v Speaker 5>talking about maybe trading this thing all the way back

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<v Speaker 5>into the top of the second round, you know, looking

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<v Speaker 5>to pick thirty four to thirty five and picking up

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<v Speaker 5>some draft capital that way. They might feel like that

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<v Speaker 5>is a better way to operate than just going ahead

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<v Speaker 5>and picking a player at twenty four.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Bottom line is the Cowboys have to go into this

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<v Speaker 8>draft not even considering but knowing that they're going to

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<v Speaker 8>have to get at least one trade back done, hopefully

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<v Speaker 8>more than one they need. They're going in with only

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<v Speaker 8>seven picks, with three in the top one hundred. If

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<v Speaker 8>they're going to have to get more in the top

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<v Speaker 8>one hundred, preferably more, and you know at top one

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<v Speaker 8>fifty at worst. So if you look at shameless plug,

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<v Speaker 8>my annual mock that so on Dallas Cowboys dot com,

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<v Speaker 8>Brian brings up an excellent point Kansas City. I played

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<v Speaker 8>around with maybe trading on Kansas City going back to

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<v Speaker 8>thirty two, get that third a fourth. I ultimately ended

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<v Speaker 8>up with two two trade backs the Lions from twenty

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<v Speaker 8>four to twenty nine, and I got the Lions seventy

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<v Speaker 8>third to third pick, seventy third overall pick. And then

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<v Speaker 8>when I went on the clock at thirty one, guess

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<v Speaker 8>what the forty nine ers wanted to call and make

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<v Speaker 8>an offer because they're unsure about Brandon Ayuk right potentially,

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<v Speaker 8>so got their third round pick, which is ninety fourth overall.

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<v Speaker 8>So before I even went on the clock at thirty one,

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<v Speaker 8>I had two third round picks. Point being the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 8>need to both be making the calls and fielding the

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<v Speaker 8>calls and being open to see what they can do.

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<v Speaker 8>I do think it's possible that they trade out of

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<v Speaker 8>the first round entirely. My only asterisk to that is

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<v Speaker 8>this is a team that recently hasn't been successful at

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<v Speaker 8>getting deals done on their premier talent early, which means

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<v Speaker 8>they probably want that fifth year of control over their

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<v Speaker 8>first round pick. So keep that in mind when you're

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<v Speaker 8>considering how willing or unwilling the Cowboys might be able

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<v Speaker 8>to trade out of the first round.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that means to your point, on your Detroit trade,

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 5>that's about a two to twenty five different some point differential,

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<v Speaker 5>and that would be a massive overpay for Detroit. But

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<v Speaker 5>how bad do they want a player? Sometimes you can

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<v Speaker 5>get a team that really wants a player and you

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<v Speaker 5>could get a massive overpay on that.

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<v Speaker 8>So and to qualify that because Detroit correct me if

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<v Speaker 8>I'm wrong, they don't have a fourth round pick. They don't,

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<v Speaker 8>so they put the fifth round pick on the table

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<v Speaker 8>along with their first for the swap. Fifth round pick

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<v Speaker 8>wasn't enough, Not enough? I said no, And you don't

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<v Speaker 8>have a fourth which would have been the sweet spot.

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<v Speaker 8>So you got to come to the third and they

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<v Speaker 8>I was taking JC Latham, which makes sense.

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<v Speaker 5>I was thinking about Detroit as a possible not trade

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<v Speaker 5>back because I think they're going to have to give

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 5>up next year's assets to do it. Now, I can't

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 5>play with next year's assets I have to think about

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 5>so to me, to me, another thing you need to

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<v Speaker 5>be concerned about is I don't think that if you

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<v Speaker 5>look at this draft, Minnesota is picking ahead of you

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<v Speaker 5>right now at twenty three. I would bet that somebody

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<v Speaker 5>other than Minnesota is going to pick ahead of you.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's another.

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<v Speaker 5>Team that might have a need that you have that's

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden. I mean, keep an eye on

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 5>New England diving out of there, you know, and listening

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 5>and talking to their folks about it, their shopping their pick.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, if Minnesota could package their two picks

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 5>and go up and get their quarterback, like I say,

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<v Speaker 5>there could be somebody very very different other than Minnesota

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<v Speaker 5>picking ahead of you. And that's something you have to

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<v Speaker 5>worry about.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, We're going to take our final break. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>come back.

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<v Speaker 7>We're going to get some predictions from these guys and

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<v Speaker 7>what we think will happen on tomorrow and on Friday

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<v Speaker 7>in the first three rounds of the draft.

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<v Speaker 7>You're doing a credit to you and the whole team

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<v Speaker 7>out there that does the Draft show. This is it's

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was and definitely more than I thought it

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<v Speaker 4>So good job by you guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Will have a great.

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<v Speaker 4>Weekend this weekend, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully the Cowboys have a good weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully that's a good week That's the most important thing,

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<v Speaker 4>all right.

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<v Speaker 7>So let's let's dive and I want to get some

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<v Speaker 7>some ideas, predictions from you guys of what you think

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<v Speaker 7>is going to happen. Let's start first with the first pick,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'd like to know from you guys two things. One,

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<v Speaker 7>who do you think they'll pick?

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<v Speaker 2>Two?

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<v Speaker 4>Who do you want them to pick?

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<v Speaker 5>I personally, I'll start this off because I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 5>be the draft expert here. I'm a big fan of

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<v Speaker 5>Jackson Powers Johnson, the center from Oregon. I'm starting to

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<v Speaker 5>hear some more medical improvements. There were some things I

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<v Speaker 5>was very concerned about. I talked to two or three

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<v Speaker 5>different teams about. I have not talked to the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 5>about what they think about his medical condition, but he's

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<v Speaker 5>the best center in the draft. I've gone on record.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like that this team has to find a center,

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<v Speaker 5>and if you're going to draft and need that's go

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<v Speaker 5>for the first one. That's center. I think is the

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<v Speaker 5>one position that I would look at. I'd love for

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 5>them to be able to draft him. I think that

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<v Speaker 5>when you look at Barton from Duke is another possibility there.

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<v Speaker 5>You're gonna have to walk a minefield in front of you,

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<v Speaker 5>and everybody once again knows I was trying to alert

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<v Speaker 5>you about that Minnesota pick. And if it's not Minnesota,

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 5>it could be somebody else. It could be somebody that's

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<v Speaker 5>going to sell. Maybe that team's going to sell the pick.

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<v Speaker 5>We've Dallas has had this happen to them a couple

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 5>of different times where there's such a need. Everybody's thinking

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<v Speaker 5>that Dallas needs a center, Dallas needs a tackles. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden, you get a team like Buffalo

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:18.840
<v Speaker 5>last year. A couple of years we traded ahead of

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 5>you for a tight end. You know, we've seen teams

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<v Speaker 5>try and trade ahead. Philadelphia did it one year for Dallas.

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 5>Godd Or traded ahead of you because they thought you

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 5>were going to take a tight end. So if if

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Dallas is trying to keep this very quiet

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 5>and very much buttoned up. But man, if if they

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<v Speaker 5>can draft one of these centers Powers Johnson from Oregon

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<v Speaker 5>Barton from a Duke, I think that would go a

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<v Speaker 5>long way to helping them fix some of the things

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 5>that are dealing.

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<v Speaker 2>They're dealing with this offensive line.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, do not look on me for information about the draft,

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 9>and do not look at me for any any.

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<v Speaker 2>Other tackle or center, which is if you had.

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<v Speaker 9>A center center but the on the main guide. And

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<v Speaker 9>I'm trying to think if it's because I've made my

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<v Speaker 9>own opinion about Powers Johnson, or if it's because I've

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<v Speaker 9>been kind of secretly brainwashed because I've seen his name everywhere,

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<v Speaker 9>so maybe you know, you start getting seen things everywhere

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<v Speaker 9>and just plants into your brain. But he's a guy

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<v Speaker 9>that has attracted me a lot, and that I can

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<v Speaker 9>see him fit pretty well with the Cowboys and the

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 9>Olne and be a plugging guy immediately and hopefully not

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<v Speaker 9>have a huge growing curve to do. But I do

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 9>still think that the Cowboys will be trading back. However,

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<v Speaker 9>there's still the possibility of getting a guy like Powers Johnson,

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<v Speaker 9>and he regardless if it's not him, my pick would

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<v Speaker 9>be whatever pick they make first O line. It has

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<v Speaker 9>to be and I have I trusted a lot in

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<v Speaker 9>the sense that so far, what the Cowboys have done

0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 9>over the years, they've been very successful. I've often linemen

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<v Speaker 9>offensive linemen, So I trust that whoever they do pick

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 9>and go for would be a guy that will be

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<v Speaker 9>efficient and good for the Cowboys, not only this year,

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<v Speaker 9>for years to come.

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<v Speaker 2>That's well said.

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<v Speaker 8>I think they're open minded in the aspect of like

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 8>you said, offensive linemen, right, I think it's just down

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 8>to center versus tackle, and they'll see how the board

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 8>falls there. I think what will work in their favor.

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 8>If you're like Amball, if you're like Brian and if

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<v Speaker 8>you've read my mock massive spoiler, my first round pick

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 8>is Jackson Powers Johnson. That's who I absolutely want. But

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 8>the medical situation, and I'm glad to hear that it's improving.

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<v Speaker 5>It is. I talked to two teams again, I did

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.840
<v Speaker 5>not talk to the Cowboys, but talk to two different teams,

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 5>and there were some concerns with some various things, and

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 5>they're like, no, no, no, clean, this is clean on

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 5>some of these areas that have the concerns.

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 8>So what I'm wondering is because of the presence. I

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 8>hope they think that as well. Because of the presence

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 8>of those medical concerns, regardless of which teams are worried

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 8>about them or not, you don't necessarily have those with

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 8>the guys like Graham Barton, which I believe that's going

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 8>to make Barton go off of the board. And if

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 8>reports as early as this morning, if they hold true,

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 8>and teams are making a run on offensive tackles, and

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 8>that's going to push the Cowboys more so the center.

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 8>And I think Barton has gone before they even go

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<v Speaker 8>on the clock at twenty four. I think that Powers

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<v Speaker 8>Johnson is someone that you could trade back right potentially

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<v Speaker 8>get a fourth or a third, and still he'll be

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 8>there for you later in the first round. So I

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<v Speaker 8>would love That's my dream scenario is that you can

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<v Speaker 8>go back even thirty one, thirty two, whatever you need

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 8>to gotwe in the thirties, and you'll still get Jackson,

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 8>Powers Johnson, and I just have visions of him, you know.

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 8>Book ended by Zach Martin and Tyler Smith. You talk

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 8>about fixing the run game, you talk about protecting the

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 8>middle of the middle of the offensive line. Those are

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 8>three bullies. That's what I want to see.

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 5>And I love what you're saying. I think you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to have to draft the center. I think if I

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 5>trade back, I could take one of these tackles. And

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 5>you know the names, but there's some names that I

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 5>think that when you when you look at Fatanu.

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 2>From Washington is a possible name.

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 5>I asked somebody about Latham in the league as a

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 5>general manager, about Latham from Alabama, he said, he says,

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 5>he ain't getting to you. Brian uh Geiton has been

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 5>a very very popular name. The name you need to

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 5>keep an eye on is Morgan from Arizona. If they

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 5>trade back into this thing, keep an eye on that particular.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they could play him at guard or they

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 5>could playm at tackle there. He's really a talented player.

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 5>We talked about him a bunch on the Draft show

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<v Speaker 5>very early, and then like media scouts kind of fell

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 5>off from him, and then he became a guy that

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 5>was kind of a late one, maybe early too. So

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:39.359
<v Speaker 5>Dallas trades back in that because maybe the Sinners are

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 5>wiped out and and and Patrick, I'm not poop pooing

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<v Speaker 5>your idea about Powers Johnson in the trade back situation,

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:49.440
<v Speaker 5>but like I say, if the medical stuff is improving

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 5>if people are like there was, there was a legitimate

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 5>scare about him and the medical conditions, and like I say,

0:44:56.680 --> 0:45:00.320
<v Speaker 5>I had had a general manager tell me, no, this,

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 5>this is what the league is going to see with

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 5>this guy now. So I kind of feel like those

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 5>centers might be the premium. The tackle depth stretches a

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:11.399
<v Speaker 5>little bit more so if you go back to that

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 5>thirty one, thirty two, maybe even come out of the

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:19.879
<v Speaker 5>second round. I would keep an eye on Morgan from Arizona, you.

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 4>Know how I would.

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 7>I would love for them to come away from this

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 7>draft with Barton, and it's not necessarily for what he

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 7>does right now, although I think he can step in

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 7>immediately and be your center and be a really good

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 7>center for you. I like his flexibility, and I'm looking

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 7>at two to three years down the road. Let's say

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 7>Zach Martin, as we know, he's coming closer to the

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 7>end of his career. If you've already got a guy

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 7>that has that ability where now you have to you

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 7>can pop him out to guard if you need it to.

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 7>If Zach Martin should say retire in the next one

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 7>to three years, that feels really right to me and

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 7>That's why I like a guy like Barton who has

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 7>that flexibility, because I do think right now, your offensive

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 7>line is in a little bit of a I.

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Feel like TJ. Masis.

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 5>They will tell you they feel like the t J.

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 5>Bass is a better right guard than left and left.

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So at the end of the day, I love

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:06.879
<v Speaker 4>the flexibility.

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 7>You're not you're not having that flexibility, like when they

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 7>selected Tyler Smith, like the no one projected necessarily to

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 7>be your guard. He was going to be the tackle,

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 7>right but he got it guard and he was really

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 7>good at it. So I just like the flexibility there

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 7>give a guy that can play.

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 5>There's people that there's people that feel like that. What

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 5>if you drafted Barton and you turn around and drafted

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 5>another center and you played Barton at guard and then okay,

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 5>maybe you maybe they don't want to move Tyler Smith,

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.319
<v Speaker 5>but would you now you play Barton at guard, you

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 5>played Tyler Smith that left tackle, and then now you've

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:42.480
<v Speaker 5>drafted uh Norzad from the Penn State center like in

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 5>the fourth round. You know, if you get a fourth round,

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 5>you get one of those extra picks.

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 4>And that might be an optimal five, right, That's.

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.440
<v Speaker 5>That's what I'm saying that if you they could double

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 5>dip on these offensive.

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<v Speaker 8>Line, and I would, and I did in the muck,

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<v Speaker 8>And you mentioned flexibility, so in on my round three,

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 8>So in that seventy third overall that I was able

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 8>to get from the Lions, and maybe he falls to

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 8>eighty seven.

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 6>Who knows.

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 8>Dominique Pooney from Kansas, Absolutely he's flexible.

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Got him in the right spot right.

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:12.320
<v Speaker 8>You put him at guard, he can do some damage.

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 8>You put him at tackle. He won awards last year

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 8>for Kansas at left tackle. So that gives you also

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:19.799
<v Speaker 8>that added flexibility that you're looking for. And that's a

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 8>guy strong, quick for his size, and he's a guy

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 8>who can come in and be a starter immediately and

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 8>down the road posts Zach Martin. It gives you that

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 8>much more firepower to say, Okay, well we know you

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 8>do well at left tackle, maybe we try you.

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Hear me.

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 8>But to Bryne's point, I do think TJ. Pass is

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:39.319
<v Speaker 8>your post Zach Martin right anymore, But keep keep an

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 8>eye on.

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<v Speaker 2>Poony.

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:44.319
<v Speaker 5>Is del Mark Glaze from Maryland's another guy. I mean,

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 5>here's a guy that's played left and right tackle for

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 5>Maryland and projected as a guard. So at six four,

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:53.280
<v Speaker 5>three hundred and fifteen pounds, he wins. He's got body position,

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 5>he plays with leverage, he's he's engaged a lot, he shuffles, slide.

0:47:57.040 --> 0:48:01.400
<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's a lot of things about Poonye from Maryland.

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Those are two really good players.

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 7>But I love the fact that the conversation is centered

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 7>around the offensive line because I think when you got

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 7>a young team and they're in the position from as

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.320
<v Speaker 7>Jerry talked about it yesterday, where they're going to have

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 7>to pay the bill and all those kinds of things,

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.439
<v Speaker 7>the best thing you can do is solidify your line,

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 7>can soililify your lines. That's the best thing you can

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 7>do for a young team because no matter what other

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 7>the other pieces are.

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<v Speaker 4>That you may be able to keep or have to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy that Byron Murphy pick.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, hey, good line. We're talking about the lines.

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 4>We're talking about the lines, offensive defensive line. Give me

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<v Speaker 4>the line, all right. We appreciate you guys.

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