1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Cowboys. Are you ready for a break? 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 3: Yes? 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 4: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: Ready for a break? 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 6: And so much for that. 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: with m bar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick Walker and 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 7: It is Wednesday, April twenty fourth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 7: episode number four. It's a lot of twenties and fours 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 7: in here. 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Break. 17 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 7: We are presented by LG and today we're getting you 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 7: ready for the NFL Draft. 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 4: It takes place. 20 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 7: It starts tomorrow, Round one, tomorrow, Round two and three 21 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 7: on Friday, and then the remainder of the rounds on 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 7: Saturday will have wald all coverage. Brian will be a 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 7: part of that, Patrick will be a part of that. 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 7: Amber will be a part of that. 25 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 4: Everybody. 26 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 7: It's all hands on deck to cover the draft. We 27 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 7: hope you will join us for that. But today I 28 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 7: want to start first by talking a little bit about 29 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 7: the press conference that happened yesterday. Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, 30 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 7: and Mike McCarthy all took some time with the media 31 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 7: to answer questions, and it felt a little less about 32 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 7: draft and a little more about team building one oh 33 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 7: one and salary caps and everything else. But I want 34 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 7: to first go around the room and just get general 35 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 7: thoughts on what you heard from press conference, any particular 36 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 7: things that stood out to you that you thought that 37 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 7: you thought were particularly interesting. 38 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: Briant's start start with you. 39 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, again, this is my opinion coming from one O 40 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 5: five to three, the fan from the outside of it 41 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 5: in you know, I did the work here with you guys, 42 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 5: But I felt like this is the first time Stephen 43 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 5: Jones doesn't like to talk about contracts generally. He pointed 44 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 5: the finger yesterday at the agent community a little bit 45 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 5: on some of these contracts. And I mean this in 46 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 5: a way that you know, when he was talking about, hey, 47 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 5: these guys talk. These guys, you know, they have ideas, 48 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 5: they know numbers and all that. 49 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: You see. 50 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 5: The Cowboys are a team like, hey, we're not going 51 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 5: to comment about that. We're not going to combat I 52 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 5: sent some frustration with Stephen Jones yesterday and the fact 53 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 5: that he feels like that some of these agents again 54 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 5: their ability to talk to each other and then maybe 55 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 5: holding up deals. We always, I know, on our end 56 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 5: of it, give the Cowboys a lot agree for what 57 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 5: happens with some of these contracts. It's a two way street. 58 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 5: My experience of working in the National Football League is 59 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 5: you have to have people that are willing to make 60 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 5: deals with you if you're going to do this. But 61 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 5: a lot of us blame the Cowboys for not doing deals, 62 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 5: and to me, I sensed frustration from Stephen Jones, which 63 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 5: I'd never had before. But I felt like he pointed 64 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 5: the finger at the agent community a little bit yesterday 65 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 5: and said, listen, we'll do deals. It's going to be 66 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 5: the right number, but we'll do deals. And so you know, 67 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 5: and I think he's right. I think the first time, 68 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 5: and this is my opinion, that the first time they 69 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 5: did the Dak Prescott deal, you had an agent that 70 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 5: was switching from one agency to another. He was not 71 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 5: going to put new money with an old agency, and 72 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 5: I think that's why you got held up on a deal. 73 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 5: I think agents are holding up on deals now. We 74 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 5: saw a big deal today for a wide receiver, which 75 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 5: is good. The Lions got their deal done with Saint Brown. 76 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 5: Good for them, but you have to have people that 77 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 5: are willing to talk to you and willing to negotiate 78 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 5: along the way. I sense frustration from Stephen Jones on 79 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 5: that front. 80 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, there was definitely some frustration and a little bit 81 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 8: of defensiveness from both Steven and Jerry as far as 82 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 8: the team building, the questions that they were kind of 83 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 8: violding back and forth, and it seems like it's a 84 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 8: situation where if you go back and you look at 85 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 8: last summer, you look at what they were able to 86 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 8: do with Trevon Diggs and getting that deal done early, right, 87 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 8: that's ideally with the Cowboys and how they would like 88 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 8: to handle their cornerstone players. 89 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 6: But it's a two way street. 90 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 8: As Bran's saying, the agents, the representation for these players, 91 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 8: they have to agree with the numbers that you're presenting. 92 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 8: You have to agree with the numbers they're presenting. And 93 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 8: then it's bigger than numbers. It's how how's the money 94 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 8: breaking down, what's the term, et cetera, et cetera. So 95 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 8: clearly there's some frustration there. It seems as if there're 96 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 8: some frustrated with where they are in the cap as well, 97 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 8: Jerry saying something like we we're embracing not having cap space. Obviously, 98 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 8: that's not gonna go over well with fans because the 99 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 8: fans are looking around the league. They're looking at teams 100 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 8: like the Philadelphia Eagles and Howie Roseman. They're looking at 101 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 8: what the Rams were able to do, you know, in 102 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 8: the years preceding what ultimately turned out to be a 103 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 8: Super Bowl. 104 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: Then picks right and push the cap all right. 105 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 8: They want to see the Cowboys be that kind of 106 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 8: aggressive and finesse and massage the salary cap in those capacities. 107 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 8: But Steven said, you know, the Cowboys, they're focused on 108 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 8: making this draft one of the best ones ever. 109 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 6: And now you don't really have a choice. 110 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 8: That's that's kind of where you are because it has 111 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 8: to be your defacto free agency. So biggest takeaway for 112 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 8: me for me is that the Cowboys are frustrated that 113 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 8: they don't have these deals done on at least one 114 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 8: of their cornerstone players of the Big Three Micah, which 115 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 8: is has a little bit more time, but CD and 116 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 8: Dak you want those done right now. But interesting and 117 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 8: interestingly enough, when I positioned the question in front of Jerry, 118 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 8: Steven and Mike regarding the possibility of drafting a quarterback. 119 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 8: If there's a premier quarterback steering you in the face 120 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 8: at twenty four, you have uncertainty with Dak Prescott going forward. 121 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 8: You have uncertainty with Trey Lance going forward. If it's 122 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 8: steering you in the face, what do you do? And 123 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 8: hence Jerry's reply, we want Dak Prescott And that was 124 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 8: one of the more definitive statements that Jerry said on yesterday, 125 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 8: and we'll get to that. 126 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 7: I did have one question for you when you were 127 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 7: talking about kind of how they've constructed the team. I 128 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 7: kind of took the impression, or got the impression that 129 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 7: what Jerry was saying was we've spent the last three 130 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 7: four years being what they now. We can all question 131 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 7: whether it really is aggressive, but they think over the 132 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 7: last three or four years, they think that's been the 133 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 7: period when they have been aggressive and they have surrounded 134 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 7: Dak with premier talent and had one of the best 135 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 7: rosters in the league. 136 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: And now it's time to pay that bill. 137 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 7: Like he kept going back to, hey, it's that credit card, 138 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 7: like we've been paying, Yeah, we've been paying on that 139 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 7: credit card roll and didn't work right. Exactly, That's exactly 140 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 7: that it sounded to me was that essentially they were 141 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 7: going these last several years, they've been pushing and we 142 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 7: know every year we get to Austin and they'd be like, 143 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 7: restructure this guy, restructured this guy. 144 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 4: And it's not they were just trying. 145 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 7: They were trying to hold it all together and give 146 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 7: themselves a little more chance and keep that roster together. 147 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 7: And now they're gonna have to embrace the fact that 148 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 7: they don't have that flexibility anymore because the rules of 149 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 7: NFL don't allow them to have that flexibilitynymore. And they 150 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 7: got to pay the bill. 151 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 8: It's not how you took it, that is how I 152 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 8: took it. But it's two things are true. That's true, 153 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 8: the bill will always come due. It's also true that 154 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 8: there are levels of footness when it comes to the 155 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 8: salary cap that I feel like the Cowboys could slightly 156 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 8: improve upon. We talk about teams like the Eagles of 157 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 8: the Rams. There are teams the New Orleans Saints in 158 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 8: the Drew Brees era. There are teams that have shown 159 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 8: that they're operating within the same rules, the same parameters 160 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 8: that Jerry Jones and the Cowboys mentioned yesterday so vehemently. 161 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 7: They've done that though, I guess is the question because 162 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 7: the way I understand it, that day is coming from 163 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 7: for the Eagles here in the next one, two three years. 164 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 7: There's but and again we'll see, and I've said this 165 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 7: on Twitter, Will hear Will we will see. 166 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: Whether it gets the waiting. 167 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 7: But that's where I look at it, and I'm like, 168 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 7: if if I do know what happened for the Rams, 169 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 7: and the Rams have to reset, and we saw that happen, 170 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 7: but they want a championship and effectively, yeah, and they 171 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 7: did a nice reset, but they also they did it 172 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 7: with the draft. After they said f and picks, right, 173 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 7: they figured out how to do it with the draft. 174 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 7: They get a guy like pooking the coup and now 175 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 7: they're back in the playoffs and ready to run. 176 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: Right. 177 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 7: But but I think I think teams do have to 178 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 7: go through this reset. It's a matter of how effectively 179 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 7: they go through the reset when they get to this 180 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 7: point where the bill comes due, because I think the 181 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 7: bill does come to But it's also. 182 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 6: The timing of the reset. 183 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 8: So if you look at it contextually, for the Cowboys, 184 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 8: look at the timing in which this reset is occurring. 185 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 8: You are a head coach on this final year that 186 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 8: you've not extended a quarterback of GB one, MVP front 187 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 8: run under all pro record setter, final year of his 188 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 8: deal not extended, Ceedee Lamb, arguably the best wide receiver 189 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 8: in the league. You want to get him extended, Michael 190 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 8: Parson's generational talent. The list goes on and on the 191 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 8: timing of such a reset. It's working against them. But 192 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 8: what also makes it that much worse. And we talked 193 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 8: about this, and we talked about it offline all the time, 194 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 8: and this is why they've been defending this statement. And 195 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 8: Jerry kind of trolled everyone a bit with the statement 196 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 8: all in the fact that Jerry said all in at 197 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 8: the Senior Bowl, and he did playfully troll everyone by 198 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 8: saying that again if he didn't attach that label to 199 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 8: this offseason, only to find out that this offseason was 200 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 8: going to be. 201 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 6: The antithesis of that. 202 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 8: That's what makes it that much more difficult for fans 203 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 8: to try to compute what's the vision here, because you're right, 204 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 8: this is likely a soft reset, maybe not a hard reset, but. 205 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: They're not getting rid of all their parts, but it 206 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: is somewhat, but the. 207 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 6: Timing of it is just very, very bad. 208 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 5: I think the thing that they're really they won't admit it, 209 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 5: but they're pissed off that some of these contras didn't 210 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 5: work out for him. I think that's the thing that's 211 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 5: bothered them. 212 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think if if you if. 213 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 5: You had you pulled Steven aside and you had a 214 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 5: scotch with him, the one thing if he said can 215 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 5: you do something over he said, yeah, maybe some of 216 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 5: these contracts I wouldn't have gone the. 217 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: Way I did. 218 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 5: You know that that didn't work out that And and Jerry, 219 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 5: I think, brought it up about the money with Zeke 220 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 5: and how it prevents you from signing Tyrant Smith. You 221 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 5: know that maybe maybe some of these bad contracts that 222 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 5: they Yeah, exactly, Zach Martin and we're at training camp. 223 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 5: Were all sitting there and it's oh, it's day twenty 224 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 5: six of Zach Martin holding out. 225 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, oh look out, yeah, you're about to 226 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: get hit the ball. 227 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 5: But but see, that's that's to me where I think 228 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,359 Speaker 5: that the fact that the bills come due, they're frustrated 229 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 5: with the agent community, and that they're also in a 230 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 5: situation where they made some bad deals. And I think 231 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 5: that's the one thing that pisses them off. They they've 232 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 5: made a bunch of bad deals in their life their 233 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 5: business man. They've also made some great ones too. But 234 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 5: I think if you, if you pulled them aside, they 235 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 5: would say, if we had to do something over there 236 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 5: are probably two or three incidents that they would look 237 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 5: at and say, we would be better, we'd be in 238 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 5: better shape if we just had done this. Our plan 239 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 5: was this, but it wasn't good enough. 240 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 9: See for me, it's easy. And if you guys, those 241 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 9: who have not listened to the press conference, I highly 242 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 9: suggest it because, like you guys mentioned, it's something different, 243 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 9: very different than what we are used to watching and 244 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 9: hearing from those guys Jerry Jones, Stephen jones E, and 245 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 9: Mike McCarthy. 246 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: So it was barely Jerry drugg him in. 247 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good, Jerry made. 248 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: Jerry made him an offensive line expert. 249 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 9: What I was gonna say, so to me, And I've 250 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 9: been one of those, and I'm not a cap expert, 251 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 9: don't care to be one. It's very because so many 252 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 9: different factors of it. It's so complicated. 253 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: But I was one of. 254 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 9: Those sitting on this show with you guys several months 255 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 9: ago of like, Okay, why they have the ability or 256 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 9: that they can restructor X, Y and Z, and they haven't, 257 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 9: And it's easy to judge that way. And sure, maybe 258 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 9: there are some contracts that is like, okay, they didn't 259 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 9: pan out. And I highly, highly truly believe that they 260 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 9: missed their chance last year. That was the year where 261 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 9: they had everything needed to get. 262 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: And they missed it in a way that was so. 263 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 9: Just exactly so where I'm trying to get at. Once 264 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 9: you start peeling all the layers and laying everything out, 265 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 9: all the contracts and everything, and you start going through 266 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 9: it and really analyzing everything, you start giving them some 267 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 9: grace and thinking, okay, well crap, like you really you're 268 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 9: really tied. You cannot do anything because it's not a 269 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 9: one year it's not this year thing. You have to 270 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 9: look at next year, the following year. You have to 271 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 9: look even sometimes four years out to where things and 272 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 9: the money is affecting you. So even though I don't 273 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 9: know all the disclosures in contracts and all of that, 274 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 9: it's not as simple. It's not as simple as because 275 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 9: I've been there myself getting upset and being like why 276 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 9: you see other teams doing this and that. But I 277 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 9: do know this, Jerry Jones, he's a great businessman, so 278 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 9: I know he has great people that know how to 279 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 9: handle money and distribute and all of that. So I 280 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 9: know there's a history there of people that are actually 281 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 9: very very knowledgeable on the job and how to move 282 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 9: money around. So anyways, the point is they had their chance. 283 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 9: They're all in was last year, and then now they're 284 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 9: just having to pay all the receipts. 285 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: This is Jerry even said it. 286 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 5: It's like you have your bank account, but you know, 287 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 5: you have all these bills, and now you're giving plasma 288 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 5: so you can get ten bucks so you can eat 289 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 5: dinner that night. You know, you know your bank account 290 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 5: looks really good, and then all of a sudden you 291 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 5: realize you've got a month's where the bill's coming up. 292 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 5: I think they're to the point now, and maybe it's 293 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 5: maybe it's going to be sacrificed in the quarterback here. 294 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 5: Maybe it is. I'm just I'm just saying they're looking 295 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 5: at it. I think that we can't kick the can 296 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 5: any further down the road. 297 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: We can't. 298 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 5: We've kicked it as far as we can as a group. 299 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 5: We agreed last year was their best opportunity. Now you 300 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 5: have to pay the bill. We've all had a great dinner, 301 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 5: you know, we're all we're all liquored up and ready 302 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 5: to go home, you know. But somebody's got to pay 303 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 5: the bill. And now they're having to pay that bill. 304 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 5: And they, yeah, do they have the money, do they 305 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 5: have the switches? Sure they can't. I think they're to 306 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 5: the point that they've made the decision like we've kicked 307 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 5: this can as far as we can. We can't do 308 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 5: it anymore. And so that's why I think they're in 309 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 5: the position from there in right. 310 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 8: Now, I was going to say, here's here's because I 311 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 8: like to put on different hats to look at things 312 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 8: from different angles. So from a Jerry Jones Stephen Jones' perspective, 313 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 8: salary cap, yes, they don't want to kick the can. 314 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 8: They can restructures digs and Malik Hooker and it can happen, 315 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 8: but they don't want to because that bill is the bill. 316 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 8: But then put on Mike McCarthy's head. Now, he will 317 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 8: never show this visibly, and he might not even it 318 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 8: might not even be an internal thought for him. But 319 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 8: if I'm Mike McCarthy and I know that I only 320 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 8: have this final year to prove myself what you're basically 321 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 8: asking me to do, which is fine because I'm up 322 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 8: to the task. But the reality is the reality is 323 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 8: that you're asking me to deliver you at a super 324 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 8: Bowl esque. 325 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 6: Run with a lot of young talent. 326 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 8: Well that you're asking to step up, which you will 327 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 8: include a class full of rookies. 328 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 5: But you but you know, last year, I gave you 329 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 5: a team with all these pro bowlers and so you 330 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: know what, Mike McCarthy, really, honestly, and I'm not saying 331 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 5: this to be mean, he doesn't have a leg to 332 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 5: stand on right now. If you look at the way 333 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 5: we're talking right now, if you look at last year 334 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 5: as the all in best chance as as an organization, 335 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 5: they didn't deliver. And he's he's at the top of that, 336 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 5: the general managers at the top of the list, but 337 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 5: then the head coach is the next. So Mike McCarthy, 338 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 5: as he looks at this, he's now going to have 339 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 5: to play the hand he's dealt. He had a winning hand, 340 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 5: He had a winning hand at the table, and but 341 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 5: they drew the dealer drew a straight flush on him 342 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 5: or something, you know, I mean, cards you know how 343 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 5: that goes. He had the hand to win, they didn't deliver, 344 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 5: and now he's got to look at this and say, 345 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 5: I had my chance. 346 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: If they move on, you know, I don't like it, 347 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: but I understand. 348 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 7: But I think also I'm growing a little tired of 349 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 7: the conversation that paints the picture that the Cowboys are. 350 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 7: Now this team that has no talent like. 351 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: That is, they'll never be bad. 352 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 7: They when you say, when you say, well, he's kind 353 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 7: of dealt his hand with the team, I look at it. 354 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 7: I really saw this and it was interesting. It was 355 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 7: on one O five dot three the Fan the other morning. 356 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 7: I heard Sean and r J and Bobby. They were 357 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 7: citing an article where this this rider had done used 358 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 7: artificial intelligence to be able to identify the rosters and 359 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 7: rate the rosters a crown in the NFL. 360 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: You want to know a Dallas fell in that number seven, 361 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 4: number seven, And. 362 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, so yes, it's not as good a 363 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 7: roster as last year because it lost a lot of 364 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 7: its depth. One thing we know about this scene is 365 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 7: they tend to draft pretty well, so they'll. 366 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: Replenish some of them. They will never be bad for 367 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: that reason. 368 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 4: They will of that. Maybe they won't get it all back, 369 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 4: but they'll replenish some of that. 370 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 7: This is still a good enough roster to go where 371 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 7: you want to go this next year. Now, who knows 372 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 7: what it'll be beyond that, Because again I look at it, 373 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 7: when people start saying they have all these levers they 374 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 7: can pull, it's like a person that's now falling into well, 375 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 7: they're already in a hole and you're throwing them a 376 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 7: shovel instead of a rope, like if you Yeah, they 377 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 7: can push these levers, but pushing these revers stuff is 378 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 7: just going to worsen the problem, is going to put 379 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 7: them farther down in that hole. 380 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: I agree, It just doesn't solve the problem. 381 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 7: So it's not really a solution to say you can 382 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 7: push these you can pull these levers and restructure these 383 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 7: guys and push the money down the road. You really 384 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 7: don't have that flexibility anymore. It's best to say, let 385 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 7: me pay my bill, let me get out of debt, 386 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 7: let me be fiscally responsible, and then I can restart 387 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 7: and say, Okay, now I can get aggressive again. I 388 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 7: got my money back to where I need to have 389 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 7: it right now I can get aggressive again. 390 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 4: I think that's how you have to. 391 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 5: I just never feel like I feel like this team 392 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 5: will always be in this I don't mean this is 393 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 5: a slam to Jason Garrett. They'll always be an eight 394 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 5: and eight team. As long as they let these guys. 395 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: Drafty, they will figure this out. 396 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 5: They will find a quarterback, they will find talent around 397 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 5: as long as they let them pick players, you know, 398 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 5: give them compensatories, let them assign you to undrafted free agents, 399 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 5: maybe dabble in the free agent market a little bit 400 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 5: if they can. They're just too good at personnel here, 401 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 5: you know, they really are. They know they'll never be 402 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 5: that now. They'll lose players, but they will find ways 403 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 5: to replace these guys. 404 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 8: And let's be clear because and I'm on the record 405 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 8: of saying this, but let's be clear for those that 406 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 8: are listening. 407 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 6: I believe the Cowboys have plenty of talent. Right. So 408 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 6: if you go back to the statement, it's youth. 409 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 8: So if I'm putting on the McCarthy had, it's not 410 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 8: that I'm concerned about the talent. It's the youth and 411 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 8: that lack of experience and a lot of unproven guys. 412 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 8: Look at your running backs room, for example, before you 413 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 8: enter this draft, it's a lot of unproven experience, and 414 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 8: you're looking at these unproven guys and saying, you have 415 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 8: to take us to a super Bowl. You have to 416 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 8: help us go to a super Bowl. Now, of course, again, 417 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 8: as a coach, particularly a guy's competitive is Mike McCarthy, 418 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 8: you're taking that challenge on head on. And I love 419 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 8: what you said, and that doesn't really have a leg 420 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 8: stand on. And to that point though, combining with what 421 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 8: you said, yes, the Cowboys have a lot of talent 422 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 8: on this roster, but they hemorrhaged talent and talent and 423 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 8: free agency. So if their best shot in recent memory, 424 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 8: like you said, was this past January and that fell 425 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 8: short with that roster, and to your own admission, the 426 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 8: current roster as we have this conversation is less talented, 427 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 8: still talented, but less talented than the roster that failed 428 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 8: in January. Now you can see where fans get concern. 429 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 5: But that's where Sam Williams and Tolbert and these guys 430 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 5: as Tolbert is is Tolbert needs to play better because 431 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 5: Michael Gallup's gone, you know, and all those edge rushers 432 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 5: are now gone, Armstrong Fowler, Sam Williams you need to 433 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 5: step up and play better. You know, Junior Forjoco, they 434 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 5: drafted you for a reason. You know, you have to 435 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 5: figure out a way. Mozzie Smith, you got to figure 436 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 5: this thing out, you know. So to me, they the talent. 437 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 5: The talent we talk about young talent. They've got talented 438 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 5: football players. The problem is they've got to play like 439 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 5: talented football players. 440 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 7: And you ain't always a problem. Look at the Green 441 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 7: Bay Packers, look at the Houston Texas from last year. 442 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 7: Both rosters were just litany of young guys who were 443 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 7: just getting into the NFL and figuring. 444 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 4: It out and got the opportunity. 445 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 7: So if we trust the fact that they can draft, well, 446 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 7: then trust these guys to get out there and play 447 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 7: and let's see what they can do when you give 448 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 7: them that responsibility. 449 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: You're about to see that absolutely. 450 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 7: And by the way, I want to see I want 451 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 7: to see some guys that they that they mentioned, like 452 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 7: a Sam william We're gonna get into some of this 453 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 7: a little bit late. 454 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 4: We're gonna take a. 455 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 7: Break, but I want to see a guy like a 456 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 7: Sam Williams, if you give him more opportunity, what does 457 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 7: he do with it? 458 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: Because maybe we don't know. 459 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: I'm just but it's true. Like there's all these for 460 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: or that you used to take. I take a lot 461 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: of it. 462 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: You don't use it all, use it all. 463 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 5: I lost it all in a press box and Dallas, 464 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 5: and I hope he went right out the way. 465 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna take our first bake. 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Visit Dallascowboys dot com, slash RelA 531 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 5: h r D to learn more. 532 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 7: See you there, Welcome back, second segment of the break 533 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 7: Life in SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're presented 534 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 7: by LG and this segment is brought to you by 535 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 7: blockchain dot Com. All right, let's talk about the defensive 536 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 7: side of the ball heading into the draft. Got a 537 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 7: simple question for you guys, which would you think of 538 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 7: these three areas is the biggest area that Dallas needs 539 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 7: to focus on in the draft this year? Defensive tackle, 540 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 7: defensive end or linebacker? 541 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 14: Jump in Garcia, what do you think defensive tackle, defensive end, 542 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 14: or a linebacker. 543 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 9: That's a tough question because I have my doubts on 544 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 9: defensive tackle and linebacker. Okay, right now, I think I 545 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 9: trust a little bit more the linebacker position than the 546 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 9: defensive tackle. And that says a lot because you got 547 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 9: the Marvin Overshan coming back from an injury, highly unknown. 548 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 9: He's only played, you know, in the preseason, and that's it. 549 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 9: Then you got you do have the veteran that you 550 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 9: sign and there's some experience there. Yeah, he. 551 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 2: His age. I don't know. 552 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 9: I'm still like I'm wanting to see even though we've 553 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 9: talked about him and all of that, but he he 554 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 9: has the experience with Mike Zimmer and all of that 555 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 9: that he brings in. But going back to defensive tackle, 556 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 9: and I get it, Massy Smith. I trust the evaluation 557 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 9: and the reason that he got drafted in the first 558 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 9: round and everything, but right now, nothing that I saw 559 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 9: last year. And that this doesn't mean that I'm giving 560 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 9: up on him at all whatsoever. This is his second 561 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 9: year and I'm excited to see if he has grown there. 562 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 9: But I just don't I feel like I trust the 563 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 9: position at the moment, especially with all the issues that 564 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 9: you had at stopping the run. The linebacker shoot help 565 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 9: by that as well, but at the moment I have 566 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 9: defensive tackle a little higher than linebacker. 567 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the best players on the in the 568 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,239 Speaker 5: draft is a defensive tackle Byron Murphy from Texas, but 569 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 5: he's a three technique. The problem you're running into is 570 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 5: you don't have a true one technique here because you're 571 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 5: trying to figure out what you're gonna do with Mazzi. 572 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 5: You've lost the depth with Hankins walking out the door 573 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 5: and others, so you really don't have a one this 574 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 5: draft isn't particularly deep for one technique guys either. McKinley 575 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 5: Jackson from Texas A and M is a guy that's 576 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 5: a three hundred and twenty six pound guy. He's probably 577 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 5: a fourth round pick on a lot of boards. You 578 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 5: don't have a fourth round pick. You have a pick 579 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 5: at eighty seven unless you get another pick, and you're 580 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 5: you know, that's to me, that's it would be. It's 581 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 5: a little bit of a reach if you pick him 582 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 5: at eight. Now you're trying to use valuable third round 583 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 5: draft capital to make up for a position that you 584 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 5: drafted last year in the first round because you're not sure. 585 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 5: The linebacker position goes a little bit deeper here. I 586 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 5: think these linebackers on your board are kind of trade 587 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 5: back guys. If say some of these offensive linemen are 588 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 5: not on the board for you, or you don't like 589 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 5: the particular tackle or your center's not there, then maybe 590 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 5: you can find a way to trade back. And then 591 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 5: this is where Peyton Wilson, the linebacker from North Carolina 592 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 5: State comes into play. Cooper from Texas A and M 593 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 5: comes in play. Colston the linebacker from Michigan comes into 594 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 5: play here. So to me, it's the linebacker gets addressed 595 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 5: on a trade back potentially first the defensive tackle, unless 596 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 5: you want to take Byron Murphy. And again that's a 597 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 5: three technique jump up to get him though, right, That's 598 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. There's some people that feel like that, 599 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 5: maybe that if he were to slide, if he were 600 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 5: the one guy that all of a sudden, there's such 601 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 5: a run on offensive players that they lose track of 602 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 5: Byron Murphy, then you know, that might be the best 603 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 5: player on your board. Yeah, but he plays a position 604 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: that you you have. Oh soo Diggy'swa who I think 605 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 5: is a really good player, but he, you know, Murphy 606 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 5: and Osa. Yeah, it'd be great to have those two 607 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 5: rush in the passer, but we still haven't addressed the 608 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 5: one technique. Now does that Mazie Smith? You know, we'll 609 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 5: see how that plays. But I only feel like that 610 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 5: the defensive players will be there or potential for the 611 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 5: drafting of a defensive player if it's a trade back, 612 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 5: that's where I think that that's and I think they 613 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 5: would probably address the linebacker before they would address the 614 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 5: defensive tackle. Would be my guest as well. 615 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 8: Uh, I'm obviously a build defense from the front to 616 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 8: the back type guy. So my inclination is to say 617 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 8: defensive tackles. But going into the draft, before they make 618 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 8: any any selection, I keep defaulting to the linebackers only 619 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 8: because there are more and bigger un knowns at linebacker. 620 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 8: So at linebacker, as it stands, you have de mont Clark, 621 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 8: you have Eric Kendricks, and then you have which basically 622 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 8: will be a red shirt and de Marveon Overshown coming 623 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 8: back from a torn acl so he has to get 624 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 8: back to form health wise, and then he has to 625 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 8: get through the rookie learning curve at one of the 626 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 8: more cerebral positions in professional football. But when you look 627 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 8: at the defensive tackle position, yes we have questions on 628 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 8: what will Masi Smith look like in year two? What 629 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 8: will his weight look like in year two? Is he 630 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 8: going to be at three held to a three? At 631 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 8: current weight? They're looking to bulk him up, but is 632 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 8: it going to be bulky enough to put him back 633 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 8: at one at the nose tackle? 634 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 6: But that's not as concerning. 635 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 8: It is concerning, but it's not as concerning as de 636 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 8: Marveion over shown and how quickly can he get to 637 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 8: form and become potentially a premier linebacker in this league. 638 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 8: We talked about Osa outstanding talent. I have no concerns 639 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 8: about Osa other than he's going into a contract year. 640 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 8: We'll talk about that when we need to talk about that. 641 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 8: But is ready to go right Chauncey Ghoston, He's shown 642 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 8: flashes mostly a special teams guy, but when he's been 643 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 8: given the chance rotationally on defense, particularly on the back 644 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 8: half of last season, he showed some good signs. Concern 645 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 8: there as far as unproving, but there's a potential to 646 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 8: do something there. So even before they make another pick, 647 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 8: or before they make a single pick, the defensive tackle 648 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 8: position in a vacuum, to me, is more important than 649 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 8: the linebacker position. But based on the pieces that are 650 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 8: on the table, I'm more concerned about linebacker than I 651 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 8: am defense. 652 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 9: Especially like Ryan said, I mean, just using the pick 653 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 9: last year on Mazie, it's hard to imagine them picking 654 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 9: someone at the defensive tackle a high pick. 655 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 5: This draft stretch is pretty good for you on the edges, 656 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 5: so I wasn't worried so much about grabbing an edge. 657 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 5: I think that you're going to have to be creative 658 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 5: to get a defensive tackle, though, especially one if you're 659 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 5: on a one technique. 660 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: And it might be a little bit of a reach. 661 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 5: Uh, And that's the hope that if you pick up, 662 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 5: if you say you drop back to you can go back. Heck, 663 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 5: you could go back to Tampa and pick up a 664 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 5: fourth round pick that that's helpful. That's only going a 665 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 5: couple of spots, but you know it would be it 666 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 5: would really benefit you if you could grab a Day 667 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 5: three early pick, because when you pick at eighty seven 668 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 5: and you don't pick again until one seventy one, that 669 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 5: is a long day of all of a sudden, guys 670 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 5: going off that board and you're just watching them and 671 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 5: you and you have no way unless you jump back 672 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 5: in somehow and stop the bleeding. You can't call it 673 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 5: twenty second time out and try and get back. You know, 674 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 5: maybe you do, but uh, it's the trading back aspect 675 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 5: of this. If their guy's not there, I think they 676 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 5: have to be prepared to try and go back. And heck, 677 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 5: you could take this thing all the way back to 678 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 5: Kansas City at thirty two and pick up a three 679 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 5: and pick up a four, and that would do you 680 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 5: some great things. 681 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 7: You get a three and a four. Yeah, wow, yeah, yeah, 682 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 7: that could be huge. 683 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, you trade to San Francisco, you trade to Baltimore. 684 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 5: Baltimore's a team I don't think will come up. Baltimore 685 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 5: is a team that traditionally will just sit there and 686 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 5: good players fall to them. Happens every single year I've 687 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: ever been involved with a draft. So I think aggressive teams. 688 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 5: Buffalo aggressive team. I think San Francisco is an aggressive team. 689 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 5: I think Kansas City is a very aggressive team. Those 690 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 5: are guys. Maybe even Arizona at twenty seven might be 691 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 5: a team that you start to talk about. There's some 692 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 5: people we were doing the Draft show, Nick Harris was 693 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 5: talking about maybe trading this thing all the way back 694 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 5: into the top of the second round, you know, looking 695 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 5: to pick thirty four to thirty five and picking up 696 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 5: some draft capital that way. They might feel like that 697 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 5: is a better way to operate than just going ahead 698 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 5: and picking a player at twenty four. 699 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 14: Yeah. 700 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 8: Bottom line is the Cowboys have to go into this 701 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 8: draft not even considering but knowing that they're going to 702 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 8: have to get at least one trade back done, hopefully 703 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 8: more than one they need. They're going in with only 704 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 8: seven picks, with three in the top one hundred. If 705 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 8: they're going to have to get more in the top 706 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 8: one hundred, preferably more, and you know at top one 707 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 8: fifty at worst. So if you look at shameless plug, 708 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 8: my annual mock that so on Dallas Cowboys dot com, 709 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 8: Brian brings up an excellent point Kansas City. I played 710 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 8: around with maybe trading on Kansas City going back to 711 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 8: thirty two, get that third a fourth. I ultimately ended 712 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 8: up with two two trade backs the Lions from twenty 713 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 8: four to twenty nine, and I got the Lions seventy 714 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 8: third to third pick, seventy third overall pick. And then 715 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 8: when I went on the clock at thirty one, guess 716 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 8: what the forty nine ers wanted to call and make 717 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 8: an offer because they're unsure about Brandon Ayuk right potentially, 718 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 8: so got their third round pick, which is ninety fourth overall. 719 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 8: So before I even went on the clock at thirty one, 720 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 8: I had two third round picks. Point being the Cowboys 721 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 8: need to both be making the calls and fielding the 722 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 8: calls and being open to see what they can do. 723 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 8: I do think it's possible that they trade out of 724 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 8: the first round entirely. My only asterisk to that is 725 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 8: this is a team that recently hasn't been successful at 726 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 8: getting deals done on their premier talent early, which means 727 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 8: they probably want that fifth year of control over their 728 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 8: first round pick. So keep that in mind when you're 729 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 8: considering how willing or unwilling the Cowboys might be able 730 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 8: to trade out of the first round. 731 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, that means to your point, on your Detroit trade, 732 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 5: that's about a two to twenty five different some point differential, 733 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 5: and that would be a massive overpay for Detroit. But 734 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 5: how bad do they want a player? Sometimes you can 735 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 5: get a team that really wants a player and you 736 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 5: could get a massive overpay on that. 737 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 8: So and to qualify that because Detroit correct me if 738 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 8: I'm wrong, they don't have a fourth round pick. They don't, 739 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 8: so they put the fifth round pick on the table 740 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 8: along with their first for the swap. Fifth round pick 741 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 8: wasn't enough, Not enough? I said no, And you don't 742 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 8: have a fourth which would have been the sweet spot. 743 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 8: So you got to come to the third and they 744 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 8: I was taking JC Latham, which makes sense. 745 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 5: I was thinking about Detroit as a possible not trade 746 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 5: back because I think they're going to have to give 747 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 5: up next year's assets to do it. Now, I can't 748 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 5: play with next year's assets I have to think about 749 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 5: so to me, to me, another thing you need to 750 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 5: be concerned about is I don't think that if you 751 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 5: look at this draft, Minnesota is picking ahead of you 752 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 5: right now at twenty three. I would bet that somebody 753 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 5: other than Minnesota is going to pick ahead of you. 754 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: So there's another. 755 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 5: Team that might have a need that you have that's 756 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 5: all of a sudden. I mean, keep an eye on 757 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 5: New England diving out of there, you know, and listening 758 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 5: and talking to their folks about it, their shopping their pick. 759 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 5: So you know, if Minnesota could package their two picks 760 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 5: and go up and get their quarterback, like I say, 761 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 5: there could be somebody very very different other than Minnesota 762 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 5: picking ahead of you. And that's something you have to 763 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 5: worry about. 764 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 4: All Right, We're going to take our final break. 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Plus, there is 821 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 5: our breakdowns of the Dallas Cowboys need at each position 822 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 5: to look back at ten years ago, to the team's 823 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 5: dramatic draft, the annual first round mock draft, and more. 824 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 5: Get your copy of the twenty twenty four Draft Guide 825 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 5: at your local pro shop or Dallascowboys dot com. 826 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: Slash the Star or Star Not the Stars. 827 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 7: Slash Star Welcome Back. It is the final segment of 828 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 7: the break right. Yeah, you should have you and I 829 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 7: will tell you. Also there is a we have a 830 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 7: new portal on our website where we have tons of 831 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 7: draft information. We've got scouting reports on all the players 832 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 7: that'll be involved in this weekend's draft. So if you 833 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 7: want to use that as kind of an opportunity to 834 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 7: be able to brush up a little bit before the 835 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 7: draft begins or throughout the draft, being able to get 836 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 7: an idea, Stan Trash, you can do that. As you're 837 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 7: watching and listening to the Draft Show, you can check. 838 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 4: Out this this portal as well. 839 00:37:59,160 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 6: We got everything. 840 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 4: Whatever kind of way you want to consume it, we 841 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 4: got it. 842 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I was really happy. 843 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 5: And by the way, thanks for letting us to do 844 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 5: the Draft one oh one here. Yeah, it was great 845 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 5: to the Jones family as well for allowing us to 846 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 5: use the venue. I had a guy from a fan 847 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 5: from the Detroit Lions that was part of it. He 848 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 5: came up to me says, let's not even want to 849 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 5: ask a question from all these Cowboy fans, but what 850 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 5: do you think my lines are going to do? 851 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: And he was so, it's really nice to know. 852 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 5: That the reach that we have with our draft coverage, 853 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 5: that it does go worldwide, and it's not just all 854 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys fans, the fans from all the teams, and 855 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 5: we appreciate everybody out there that that that consumes us 856 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 5: for these periods. 857 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 7: You're doing a credit to you and the whole team 858 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 7: out there that does the Draft show. This is it's 859 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 7: turned into something way bigger than even my guy Ed 860 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 7: k Hill could have imagined. 861 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 4: It had the idea too. 862 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was and definitely more than I thought it 863 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 7: would be at this point, but it just turned into 864 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 7: something much bigger than justin Dallas Cowboys. 865 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 4: So good job by you guys. 866 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 6: Will have a great. 867 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 4: Weekend this weekend, and. 868 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 2: Hopefully the Cowboys have a good weekend. 869 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 4: Hopefully that's a good week That's the most important thing, 870 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 4: all right. 871 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 7: So let's let's dive and I want to get some 872 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 7: some ideas, predictions from you guys of what you think 873 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 7: is going to happen. Let's start first with the first pick, 874 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 7: and I'd like to know from you guys two things. One, 875 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 7: who do you think they'll pick? 876 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: Two? 877 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 4: Who do you want them to pick? 878 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 5: I personally, I'll start this off because I'm supposed to 879 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 5: be the draft expert here. I'm a big fan of 880 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 5: Jackson Powers Johnson, the center from Oregon. I'm starting to 881 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 5: hear some more medical improvements. There were some things I 882 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 5: was very concerned about. I talked to two or three 883 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 5: different teams about. I have not talked to the Cowboys 884 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 5: about what they think about his medical condition, but he's 885 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 5: the best center in the draft. I've gone on record. 886 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 5: I feel like that this team has to find a center, 887 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 5: and if you're going to draft and need that's go 888 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 5: for the first one. That's center. I think is the 889 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 5: one position that I would look at. I'd love for 890 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 5: them to be able to draft him. I think that 891 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 5: when you look at Barton from Duke is another possibility there. 892 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 5: You're gonna have to walk a minefield in front of you, 893 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 5: and everybody once again knows I was trying to alert 894 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 5: you about that Minnesota pick. And if it's not Minnesota, 895 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 5: it could be somebody else. It could be somebody that's 896 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 5: going to sell. Maybe that team's going to sell the pick. 897 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 5: We've Dallas has had this happen to them a couple 898 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 5: of different times where there's such a need. Everybody's thinking 899 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 5: that Dallas needs a center, Dallas needs a tackles. You know, 900 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you get a team like Buffalo 901 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 5: last year. A couple of years we traded ahead of 902 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 5: you for a tight end. You know, we've seen teams 903 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 5: try and trade ahead. Philadelphia did it one year for Dallas. 904 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 5: Godd Or traded ahead of you because they thought you 905 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 5: were going to take a tight end. So if if 906 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 5: you know, Dallas is trying to keep this very quiet 907 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 5: and very much buttoned up. But man, if if they 908 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 5: can draft one of these centers Powers Johnson from Oregon 909 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 5: Barton from a Duke, I think that would go a 910 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 5: long way to helping them fix some of the things 911 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 5: that are dealing. 912 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 2: They're dealing with this offensive line. 913 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 9: Well, do not look on me for information about the draft, 914 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 9: and do not look at me for any any. 915 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 2: Other tackle or center, which is if you had. 916 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 9: A center center but the on the main guide. And 917 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 9: I'm trying to think if it's because I've made my 918 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 9: own opinion about Powers Johnson, or if it's because I've 919 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 9: been kind of secretly brainwashed because I've seen his name everywhere, 920 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 9: so maybe you know, you start getting seen things everywhere 921 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 9: and just plants into your brain. But he's a guy 922 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 9: that has attracted me a lot, and that I can 923 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 9: see him fit pretty well with the Cowboys and the 924 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 9: Olne and be a plugging guy immediately and hopefully not 925 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 9: have a huge growing curve to do. But I do 926 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 9: still think that the Cowboys will be trading back. However, 927 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 9: there's still the possibility of getting a guy like Powers Johnson, 928 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 9: and he regardless if it's not him, my pick would 929 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 9: be whatever pick they make first O line. It has 930 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 9: to be and I have I trusted a lot in 931 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 9: the sense that so far, what the Cowboys have done 932 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 9: over the years, they've been very successful. I've often linemen 933 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 9: offensive linemen, So I trust that whoever they do pick 934 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 9: and go for would be a guy that will be 935 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 9: efficient and good for the Cowboys, not only this year, 936 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 9: for years to come. 937 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 2: That's well said. 938 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 8: I think they're open minded in the aspect of like 939 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 8: you said, offensive linemen, right, I think it's just down 940 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 8: to center versus tackle, and they'll see how the board 941 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 8: falls there. I think what will work in their favor. 942 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 8: If you're like Amball, if you're like Brian and if 943 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 8: you've read my mock massive spoiler, my first round pick 944 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 8: is Jackson Powers Johnson. That's who I absolutely want. But 945 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 8: the medical situation, and I'm glad to hear that it's improving. 946 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 5: It is. I talked to two teams again, I did 947 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 5: not talk to the Cowboys, but talk to two different teams, 948 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 5: and there were some concerns with some various things, and 949 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 5: they're like, no, no, no, clean, this is clean on 950 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 5: some of these areas that have the concerns. 951 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 8: So what I'm wondering is because of the presence. I 952 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 8: hope they think that as well. Because of the presence 953 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 8: of those medical concerns, regardless of which teams are worried 954 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 8: about them or not, you don't necessarily have those with 955 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 8: the guys like Graham Barton, which I believe that's going 956 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 8: to make Barton go off of the board. And if 957 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 8: reports as early as this morning, if they hold true, 958 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 8: and teams are making a run on offensive tackles, and 959 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 8: that's going to push the Cowboys more so the center. 960 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 8: And I think Barton has gone before they even go 961 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 8: on the clock at twenty four. I think that Powers 962 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 8: Johnson is someone that you could trade back right potentially 963 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 8: get a fourth or a third, and still he'll be 964 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 8: there for you later in the first round. So I 965 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 8: would love That's my dream scenario is that you can 966 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 8: go back even thirty one, thirty two, whatever you need 967 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 8: to gotwe in the thirties, and you'll still get Jackson, 968 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 8: Powers Johnson, and I just have visions of him, you know. 969 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 8: Book ended by Zach Martin and Tyler Smith. You talk 970 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 8: about fixing the run game, you talk about protecting the 971 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 8: middle of the middle of the offensive line. Those are 972 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 8: three bullies. That's what I want to see. 973 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 5: And I love what you're saying. I think you're going 974 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 5: to have to draft the center. I think if I 975 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 5: trade back, I could take one of these tackles. And 976 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 5: you know the names, but there's some names that I 977 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 5: think that when you when you look at Fatanu. 978 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 2: From Washington is a possible name. 979 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 5: I asked somebody about Latham in the league as a 980 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 5: general manager, about Latham from Alabama, he said, he says, 981 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 5: he ain't getting to you. Brian uh Geiton has been 982 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 5: a very very popular name. The name you need to 983 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 5: keep an eye on is Morgan from Arizona. If they 984 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 5: trade back into this thing, keep an eye on that particular. 985 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 5: I think they could play him at guard or they 986 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 5: could playm at tackle there. He's really a talented player. 987 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 5: We talked about him a bunch on the Draft show 988 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 5: very early, and then like media scouts kind of fell 989 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 5: off from him, and then he became a guy that 990 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 5: was kind of a late one, maybe early too. So 991 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 5: Dallas trades back in that because maybe the Sinners are 992 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 5: wiped out and and and Patrick, I'm not poop pooing 993 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 5: your idea about Powers Johnson in the trade back situation, 994 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 5: but like I say, if the medical stuff is improving 995 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 5: if people are like there was, there was a legitimate 996 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 5: scare about him and the medical conditions, and like I say, 997 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 5: I had had a general manager tell me, no, this, 998 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 5: this is what the league is going to see with 999 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 5: this guy now. So I kind of feel like those 1000 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 5: centers might be the premium. The tackle depth stretches a 1001 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 5: little bit more so if you go back to that 1002 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 5: thirty one, thirty two, maybe even come out of the 1003 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 5: second round. I would keep an eye on Morgan from Arizona, you. 1004 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 4: Know how I would. 1005 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 7: I would love for them to come away from this 1006 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 7: draft with Barton, and it's not necessarily for what he 1007 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 7: does right now, although I think he can step in 1008 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 7: immediately and be your center and be a really good 1009 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 7: center for you. I like his flexibility, and I'm looking 1010 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 7: at two to three years down the road. Let's say 1011 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 7: Zach Martin, as we know, he's coming closer to the 1012 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 7: end of his career. If you've already got a guy 1013 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 7: that has that ability where now you have to you 1014 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 7: can pop him out to guard if you need it to. 1015 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 7: If Zach Martin should say retire in the next one 1016 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 7: to three years, that feels really right to me and 1017 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 7: That's why I like a guy like Barton who has 1018 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 7: that flexibility, because I do think right now, your offensive 1019 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 7: line is in a little bit of a I. 1020 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 2: Feel like TJ. Masis. 1021 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 5: They will tell you they feel like the t J. 1022 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 5: Bass is a better right guard than left and left. 1023 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, So at the end of the day, I love 1024 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 4: the flexibility. 1025 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 7: You're not you're not having that flexibility, like when they 1026 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 7: selected Tyler Smith, like the no one projected necessarily to 1027 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 7: be your guard. He was going to be the tackle, 1028 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 7: right but he got it guard and he was really 1029 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 7: good at it. So I just like the flexibility there 1030 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 7: give a guy that can play. 1031 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 5: There's people that there's people that feel like that. What 1032 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 5: if you drafted Barton and you turn around and drafted 1033 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 5: another center and you played Barton at guard and then okay, 1034 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 5: maybe you maybe they don't want to move Tyler Smith, 1035 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 5: but would you now you play Barton at guard, you 1036 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 5: played Tyler Smith that left tackle, and then now you've 1037 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 5: drafted uh Norzad from the Penn State center like in 1038 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 5: the fourth round. You know, if you get a fourth round, 1039 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 5: you get one of those extra picks. 1040 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 4: And that might be an optimal five, right, That's. 1041 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying that if you they could double 1042 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 5: dip on these offensive. 1043 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 8: Line, and I would, and I did in the muck, 1044 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 8: And you mentioned flexibility, so in on my round three, 1045 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 8: So in that seventy third overall that I was able 1046 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 8: to get from the Lions, and maybe he falls to 1047 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 8: eighty seven. 1048 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 6: Who knows. 1049 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 8: Dominique Pooney from Kansas, Absolutely he's flexible. 1050 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 2: Got him in the right spot right. 1051 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 8: You put him at guard, he can do some damage. 1052 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 8: You put him at tackle. He won awards last year 1053 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 8: for Kansas at left tackle. So that gives you also 1054 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 8: that added flexibility that you're looking for. And that's a 1055 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 8: guy strong, quick for his size, and he's a guy 1056 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 8: who can come in and be a starter immediately and 1057 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 8: down the road posts Zach Martin. It gives you that 1058 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 8: much more firepower to say, Okay, well we know you 1059 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 8: do well at left tackle, maybe we try you. 1060 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 2: Hear me. 1061 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 8: But to Bryne's point, I do think TJ. Pass is 1062 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 8: your post Zach Martin right anymore, But keep keep an 1063 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 8: eye on. 1064 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 2: Poony. 1065 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 5: Is del Mark Glaze from Maryland's another guy. I mean, 1066 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 5: here's a guy that's played left and right tackle for 1067 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 5: Maryland and projected as a guard. So at six four, 1068 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,280 Speaker 5: three hundred and fifteen pounds, he wins. He's got body position, 1069 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 5: he plays with leverage, he's he's engaged a lot, he shuffles, slide. 1070 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of things about Poonye from Maryland. 1071 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 2: Those are two really good players. 1072 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 7: But I love the fact that the conversation is centered 1073 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 7: around the offensive line because I think when you got 1074 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 7: a young team and they're in the position from as 1075 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 7: Jerry talked about it yesterday, where they're going to have 1076 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 7: to pay the bill and all those kinds of things, 1077 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,439 Speaker 7: the best thing you can do is solidify your line, 1078 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 7: can soililify your lines. That's the best thing you can 1079 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 7: do for a young team because no matter what other 1080 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 7: the other pieces are. 1081 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,760 Speaker 4: That you may be able to keep or have to get. 1082 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:26,919 Speaker 2: Enjoy that Byron Murphy pick. 1083 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, hey, good line. We're talking about the lines. 1084 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 4: We're talking about the lines, offensive defensive line. Give me 1085 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 4: the line, all right. We appreciate you guys. 1086 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 7: Jos Tomorrow, make sure you check out all of our 1087 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 7: coverage on the Draft. Draft show will be starting up 1088 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 7: I think what six o'clock, six o'clock, and we'll run 1089 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 7: throughout the entirety of the Draft Day one, two and 1090 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 7: three till then for Patrick Walker, Brian brought us in Ambergarcia. 1091 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 7: I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been the Break live on 1092 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 1093 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1094 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club 1095 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 15: Minute