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Speaker 1: Oh good time by Steve Taspers do Tooks do Boks

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Speaker 1: dollars time. Hello, there are good afternoon. We're back. We're

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Speaker 1: back on the air from Orchard Park, right next door

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Speaker 1: to the stadium in Orchard Park. John Murphy with Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown into co host today. Special guest co host Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown joins us one goes live here from Noondal three.

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Speaker 1: Our buddy Steve Tasker as the day off. He's got

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Speaker 1: some previous commitments that he's dealing with today involving a

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Speaker 1: So Steve will be joining us this afternoon. We hop

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Speaker 1: in the car right after the show and head to Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: Indiana or our coverage of the NFL scouting combine. Good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: Good to have Chris Brown in here. Chris, I was

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Speaker 1: thinking on the way in today this morning, you go

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Speaker 1: ahead play. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not a permanent resident here,

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Speaker 1: so I got to kind of get settled self comfortable.

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Speaker 1: I was saying today, I don't think you and I

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Are we are we still? Are we

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Speaker 1: You know, I was tom or not to combine the

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Speaker 1: we were dealing with some power stuffy over the weekend

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Speaker 1: and then yesterday so pretty wild. Yeah, and continue to

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Speaker 1: in Archard Park, nine twenty Sunday night watching the Oscars.

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Speaker 1: Missus was not happy with that. Nothing to see, but

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Speaker 1: she said, they're no English, no English. They told her

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Speaker 1: days now, we need power right now. Well I knew,

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Speaker 1: UM the power company, I will. I won't say which one. UM.

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Speaker 1: They try to keep you updated, right, and I have

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Speaker 1: this thing I signed up or do you get that?

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Speaker 1: Oh you're getting updated? I got three you're getting updated.

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Speaker 1: Estimated restore two pm as of seven am today. Okay,

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Speaker 1: then two hours later, nine am estimated restore two pm.

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Speaker 1: doing his other job today, but he'll be with us tomorrow. Steve, Chris, myself,

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Speaker 1: our producer Jay Harris hopping a car at three three

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Speaker 1: thirty this afternoon and drive for Indie. Now. I looked

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Speaker 1: lectured by the Ohio State troopers at some point that happened.

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Speaker 1: Steve and Alba new in the show Wednesday, Thursday, Friday

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Speaker 1: noon to three right from the Media Center there Radio

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Speaker 1: Row at the NFL Scouting Combine. What are you gonna

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Speaker 1: quality offensive lineman, interior offensive lineman. There are plenty of

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Speaker 1: candidates in this draft and at this combine, that would

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Speaker 1: be what I would look at it. I think as

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Speaker 1: my second move, I would try to get offensive line

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Speaker 1: help in the draft, second, third round, maybe a draft attack.

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Speaker 1: You know, Risner was a guy that they liked a

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Speaker 1: lot at the Senior Bowl. Maybe he's the guy that

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Speaker 1: they try to bring in here from Kansas State. We

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Speaker 1: talked to him down there a little bit in Mobile, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Chris Lindstrom is linked to the Bills out of Boston College.

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Speaker 1: He's played a little guard, a little tackle. Look, there

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Speaker 1: are plenty of candidates that would be my second move

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Speaker 1: if I were the general manager of the Bills, I

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Speaker 1: would first sign the defensive lineman that's out there almost

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Speaker 1: a week or two away now from being a free agent,

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Speaker 1: and then I would get to work hard this week,

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Speaker 1: which I'm sure they've already started on identifying and draft

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Speaker 1: being an offensive linement early in the draft in April.

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Speaker 1: What do you think I'm okay with that because mine

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Speaker 1: was kind of along those same lines. Here's where I'm

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Speaker 1: conflicted with respect to upgrades on the offensive line for

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Speaker 1: the Bills. More and more you're hearing personnel people in

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Speaker 1: this league say guard is becoming a more important position

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Speaker 1: than tackle. Not to the point that you're going to

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Speaker 1: ignore tackle, but it's almost like guard is rapidly ascending

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Speaker 1: an importance and pulling even with the importance of the

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Speaker 1: tackle position. For two reasons. Number One, more and more

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Speaker 1: NFL defenses are deploying penetrating type players in the middle

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Speaker 1: of their defensive line. No longer do you have as

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Speaker 1: many two gap stand in there and grind type defensive

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Speaker 1: tackles like Latoula is an exception more than the rule,

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Speaker 1: and even he can get penetration at times. More teams

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Speaker 1: are putting almost two three technique type players in the

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Speaker 1: middle of their defensive line to get pass rush up

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Speaker 1: the middle and push the pocket. So that requires opposing

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Speaker 1: offenses to really get a proven player that can stand

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Speaker 1: in there and match up athletically with a penetrating three

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Speaker 1: technique player, knowing that they could line up on either

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Speaker 1: side of your center. So from that standpoint, you need

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Speaker 1: an athletic guard, not a less mobile tackle that you

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Speaker 1: transition to guard. And then number two, you need a

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Speaker 1: mobile guard to get out and pull, which is something

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Speaker 1: that was sorely lacking from this unit last season. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a team that could not execute a screen

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Speaker 1: due to the lack of mobility at the guard positions.

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Speaker 1: So I'm almost more inclined Murph to spend big in

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Speaker 1: free agency on a guard and then draft a tackle

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Speaker 1: because I think there are about four or five that

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Speaker 1: can be had in the first thirty five draft choices,

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Speaker 1: and the Bills pick at nine. If they move down,

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Speaker 1: they still have an opportunity. I think to get one

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Speaker 1: of the top four tackles in the draft. Again, the

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Speaker 1: value's got to match up for Brandon being he's not

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Speaker 1: going to reach, he's not going to draft a position.

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Speaker 1: But I would almost draft the tackle sign the guard

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Speaker 1: because guards still costs you lesson free agency than tackle,

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Speaker 1: at least at this point in time. I guess it

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Speaker 1: could change in a few years based on where these

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Speaker 1: personnel people say it's going. But so I guess, in

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Speaker 1: a long winded way, I'm saying I want to draft.

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Speaker 1: I want to sign a premier guard that can step

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Speaker 1: in right away and make a difference for this offensive lines,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll worry about drafting the tackle later. You see.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they need to spend considerable money

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Speaker 1: at all to get offensive line help. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they do. I think you can draft somebody second, third,

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Speaker 1: fourth round who may be able to and play right away,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I'm kind of looking for, and may

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Speaker 1: save the money for a receiver and that for somebody else,

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Speaker 1: and that's all well and good, But I really think

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Speaker 1: the offensive line hits such dire straits this past season.

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Speaker 1: I think you need a dependable reliable, plug in play

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Speaker 1: veteran that can lead that group. Because if there's one

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Speaker 1: thing that was that was missing on that group, just

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Speaker 1: as much as the talent, it was proven established leadership.

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Speaker 1: And I think we all know after spending the last

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Speaker 1: two seasons with coach McDermott how much he values leadership

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Speaker 1: at every position group and I think despite the best

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Speaker 1: efforts of people like Russell Bodine and Ryan Groy, they

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Speaker 1: need a guy who's got pelts on the wall, you know,

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Speaker 1: that kind of person to step in there and really

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Speaker 1: lead that group. That's that's my personal feeling. I'm not

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Speaker 1: getting that from anywhere else, but I just think there

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Speaker 1: is a leadership void on the offensive line with proven type,

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Speaker 1: you know, pelts on the wall type of player that

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Speaker 1: needs to be in that room for them, especially with

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Speaker 1: a new old line coach coming into the room. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Johnson is going to put his stamp on this group,

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Speaker 1: make no mistake, I got a lot of respect for

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Speaker 1: him as a coach, but I think he's going to

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Speaker 1: need the support of a proven veteran in the room

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Speaker 1: that can also do it on the field. Okay, A

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Speaker 1: lot to talk about here. We'd love to get your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on it. If you were the Bills general manager,

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Speaker 1: give us two moves that you would make specific as

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Speaker 1: you can get. Not just draft an offensive lineman, not

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Speaker 1: just a find a receiver. Get specific with us, because

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Speaker 1: let's basic, Chris, we are on the cusp of the

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Speaker 1: real meat of the offseason. Right The combine is coming

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Speaker 1: up this week. Free agency starts March thirteenth. You got

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Speaker 1: the draft at the end of April. The hard work,

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Speaker 1: the the you know, the work of offseason begins really

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Speaker 1: in the next week or so. Now. Teams have prepped

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Speaker 1: for this, but decisions are about to be is what

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, right, Yeah, the decision the rubber

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Speaker 1: meets the road here. Yeah, because all the all the

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Speaker 1: research and the work that you've put in. This is

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Speaker 1: where you know it comes to fruition. This is where

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Speaker 1: you benefit from all the time you put in. Chris

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Speaker 1: is here till three Today, Steve Tasker off Today, I'm

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Speaker 1: John Murphy. It's one Bills Live. We're gonna come back.

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Speaker 1: Take your phone calls. If you have a boll on this,

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Speaker 1: what two offseason moves would you make if you were

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Speaker 1: the Bills GM. Give us a call to discuss eight

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Speaker 1: oh three five fifty and toll three one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. You can send in

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Speaker 1: a tweet, we may read it on the air. Come

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Speaker 1: on back for more. It's One Bills Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalaida Health from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: Rading One Bills Live. Name of the show. Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: is here in place of Steve Tasker. Steve will be

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Speaker 1: with us tomorrow when we do the show live at

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Speaker 1: the Scouting Combine, an Indie noon to three tomorrow Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Had an interesting tweet here, Chris, which we kind of

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Speaker 1: got into. But let me let me get you on

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Speaker 1: this before we get into what our topic is. Doug

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Speaker 1: Briggs tweets and Murph and Chris, can you walk us

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Speaker 1: through what your job is during the combine, Like what

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Speaker 1: is it that you guys are trying to accomplish and

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Speaker 1: what things you do to try to learn at the combine? Thanks,

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Speaker 1: and we can do that. My job at the Combine,

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Speaker 1: similar to what we do here, is to do this show.

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Speaker 1: We'll be there with Steve. We're trying to try to

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Speaker 1: line up the thing about the combine. I think maybe

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Speaker 1: an underrated thing when it comes to fans, Chris, is

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Speaker 1: just the convention nature of the combine, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Everybody from the NFL is there so for

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Speaker 1: our show, and you two will be in position to

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Speaker 1: see and talk to people from around the league, decision makers, coaches,

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Speaker 1: GM's assistant coaches, scouts, personnel people, media people. It's a

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Speaker 1: it's a media convention as well, and that plays right

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Speaker 1: into what we're trying to do with our show, get

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Speaker 1: people to talk about the NFL and the Bills. So

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Speaker 1: our job, myself and Steve on the show will be

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Speaker 1: to do the show, the lineup guests for the show,

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Speaker 1: and do meaning interviews. We will start tomorrow and Thursday

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Speaker 1: with interviews with the Bills decision makers, coach Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: and general manager Brandon Being So that's basically what I'll

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Speaker 1: be doing. And as we tried to say, I'll let

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Speaker 1: you answer the question too. But the actual watching the workouts,

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Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, I'll come home Saturday and turn on

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Speaker 1: the TV and watch the quarterbacks throw to receivers just

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Speaker 1: like anybody else who wants to. And I'm just there

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Speaker 1: in a news gathering sense, you know, I'm just kind

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Speaker 1: of covering what is being said storylines that are unfolding,

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Speaker 1: either from coaches, general managers, and or players, and it's

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Speaker 1: not just tied specifically to the Bills. That will be

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Speaker 1: my main focus because the people I'm catering to our

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Speaker 1: Bills fans, But there could be other things that have

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Speaker 1: ancillary ties to the Bills in some other way, shape

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Speaker 1: or form that could potentially impact them that might be

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Speaker 1: of interest to fans as well. So I've got to

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Speaker 1: kind of keep my radar up beyond just the scope

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Speaker 1: of the Bills to see if anything else shakes out

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Speaker 1: of the trees too, from a player and or coach GM,

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Speaker 1: because you could have a GM they're saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: my door is open, and so are my phone lines

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Speaker 1: to anyone that will allow us to move into the

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Speaker 1: top ten in the draft. Well that's newsworthy because the

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Speaker 1: Bills are picking ninth. So you know, I've got to

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Speaker 1: kind of have my ear to the ground for that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff outside of the realm of the Bills.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing we also, as you said, you

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Speaker 1: got to be alert and aware that news might break, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and stuff might happen the impacts the Bills or at

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Speaker 1: least impacts the NFL. That happens quite often at the combine.

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Speaker 1: One thing about this year's combine compared to last year's,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I was thinking, I think it's the

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Speaker 1: eighth or ninth combine event too. You probably are maybe

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Speaker 1: right around that, a little bit more than that, I guess.

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Speaker 1: I think oh nine or oh eight was my first combine. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Last year, we were so fixated on the quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: there was a nice healthy crop of four or five

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Speaker 1: or six first round prospect quarterbacks and there were a

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Speaker 1: bunch of teams in the market for quarterbacks last year.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was the week after the Combine that

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Speaker 1: the Jets made their big move right to move up

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Speaker 1: to number three, putting them sixth to three, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but there was intrigue about the combine last year. There

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Speaker 1: was I think more interest, quite frankly, in the combine

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Speaker 1: last year because of the quarterback crop. It helps, there's

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Speaker 1: no cut, and the Bills were in the market for

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Speaker 1: one too, So I think there was built in interest

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Speaker 1: in the combine on the parts of Bills fans anyway,

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Speaker 1: because they wanted to see because at that point, I

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Speaker 1: believe they were still sitting at twenty two and people

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Speaker 1: were then made the quarty glench trade yet and they were.

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Speaker 1: But I can tell you this, a lot of the

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Speaker 1: seeds that are planted for trades that you see happen

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Speaker 1: in March and early April happened at the combine because

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Speaker 1: that is the gathering place where gms are not just

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Speaker 1: doing their due diligence and homework with the medical evals

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Speaker 1: and interviews with players, they're also spending their off hours,

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Speaker 1: which are very few and far between because interviews based

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Speaker 1: we go from five thirty six pm till about eleven

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Speaker 1: at night with those players in the speed dating format

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Speaker 1: that we've discussed before. They're also spending whatever free time

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Speaker 1: they have contacting and getting in touch with other gms

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Speaker 1: about potential things that they might have that are percolating,

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Speaker 1: and opportunities that they can find a marriage of sorts

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Speaker 1: to make a trade go down, either with draft picks involved,

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Speaker 1: either with players involved that they're trying to move salary

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Speaker 1: out of there off their books. So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of moving parts there that go beyond just the player evaluations,

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Speaker 1: medical and interview wise. I liked why you put that

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Speaker 1: about seeds being planet. I was talking to our GM,

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00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: Brandon being late last week about some of the stuff

643
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: in an informal conversation, and he said, what has happened

644
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: in the past, and I think it happens all over

645
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: the league, is that you'll be standing there next to

646
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: another team's GM or personnel guy watching some workout, and

647
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: you get talking about your team, what do you like,

648
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: what do you have, And all of a sudden you

649
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: find out this guy thinks he's got some depth on

650
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: offensive line and he thinks you got some depth that

651
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: he might want somewhere else, and you don't make the

652
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: deal there, and then you start talking about how you

653
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: would think you would think about that, Yeah, I would

654
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: think about that, and you kind of make a mental note, right,

655
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: and go back to it in the next week or two. Right.

656
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: And the layout in the actual Lucas Oil Stadium caters

657
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: to that too, because the gms are up in all

658
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: of those suites on that second level and it's one

659
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: team next to the other, next to the other. I mean,

660
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: you just got to walk down the hall to bend

661
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: the ear of another GM if you want to just

662
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: shoot the breeze, or if you want to get down

663
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: to brass tacks and say Hey, we're looking to move

664
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: player A at some point in time here in the

665
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: off season. Would there be any interest on your part

666
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: in acquiring a player like that, especially if we can

667
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: take care of part of his twenty nineteen salary. You know,

668
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: your formal conversation, you got lines in the water. Yeah,

669
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: So that goes on, and I hope they'll answer your

670
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: question as to what Chris and I are doing at

671
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: the combine. Others have answered. Trying to keep tabs on

672
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: all of it, our bosses frequently asked us, what do

673
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: you guys do with the combine? What are you doing

674
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: down there on Twitter today? And our question of the

675
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: day to get us going, give us. We want you

676
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: to give us two moves this offseason you would make

677
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: if you were the general manager of the Buffalo Bills,

678
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: if you were Brandon Bean, get as specific as you can,

679
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: mentioned players, if you want draft prospects, if you want

680
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: free agents, if you're thinking about it, current Bills players.

681
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: Give us two moves this offseason you would make if

682
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Speaker 1: you were the Bills GM eight h three h five

683
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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

684
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Speaker 1: five fifty. We'll start on the phones with Dennis in Buffalo.

685
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dennis, you're on the air, Hi, guys, A

686
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: great topic today. I love this question because there's so

687
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: many different ways you can go with it. Yeah, my

688
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: two ways to go in the off season moves really

689
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 1: both have to go along the lines of improving the

690
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: offensive line. They are ranked so poorly and we really

691
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: only have one guy we can really depend on, our

692
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: left tackle, Dean Dawkins, so there's a lot of help

693
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: needs to be come there. I'm not normally a big

694
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: guy for going out and spending all money on free agents.

695
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: Obviously you'd rather do it through the draft, But because

696
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: this position is so bad right now, I would try

697
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: to sign mad Parodies the center Denver, as well as

698
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: Darryl Williams, the right tackle from Carolina. Give us two

699
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: good starting alignemen who we can fill in the draft

700
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: with some of the guard positions, and these Darryl Williams,

701
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: for example, was the third ranked right tackle by Pro

702
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: Football Focus. Plus he's got the Carolina connection that we're

703
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: all familiar with with McBean and Parodis is the best

704
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: center on the market, and I think that will go

705
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: along way towards helping our offensive line. Consequently, giving some

706
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: time for Josh Allen to work his magic. Good moves.

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Speaker 1: Good interesting move, well thought out. Thank you very much,

708
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: Dennis Chris. I want to ask you a question that

709
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: in answer to Dennis, I guess and something that Steve

710
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: Tasker and I talked about in the last few weeks.

711
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: How dire is the situation for the Bills offensive line?

712
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: In other words, with those three impending free agents? Are

713
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: all three of them gone? Do you think John Miller,

714
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Mills, and oh Gray did even think of I

715
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: was thinking of the guard Laddie ducas well. Dukas is

716
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: still under contract. Okay? Are they all three gone? Miller

717
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: is a free agent, Mills is a free agent, and

718
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: Groy is a free agent? Righty? Okay? Are they gone?

719
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Speaker 1: I mean nothing yet with any of them, But does

720
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: that mean they're gone? There's certainly time for the Bills

721
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: to make a move if they want to keep them.

722
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't look Brandon being said at himself at the

723
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: end of season press conference. They know they have to

724
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: make upgrades and they know where. To me, that's a

725
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: nice way of him saying, we've got to upgrade the

726
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: offensive line, and we know this. I will say this.

727
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Speaker 1: I think the reason that they made a change at

728
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: the offensive line coach was I think because there was

729
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Speaker 1: a general feeling that development of the young lineman that

730
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Speaker 1: they had was not happening at a rate that they

731
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Speaker 1: felt had to take place. And while Wandcast is a

732
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Speaker 1: veteran coach who knows his stuff, I don't think from

733
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Speaker 1: a player development perspective, the job was getting done to

734
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Speaker 1: the level of effectiveness that was anticipated. Bobby Johnson is

735
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Speaker 1: a younger offensive line coach who is known as a

736
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Speaker 1: developer of talent, So I think they feel that they've

737
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Speaker 1: upgraded in terms of player development, which now more than

738
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: ever is important because you cannot as much as teams,

739
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: including the Bills, who want to keep their own. Is

740
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: a great philosophy to have the salary cap makes it

741
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: realistic for you to keep everybody at every position, knowing that,

742
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: especially at a position where you're going to carry upwards

743
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: of eight or nine players, you need player development at

744
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: offensive line maybe more than any other position. Maybe defensive

745
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: line is the only other one that comes close due

746
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: to numbers. So you have the player development part of

747
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: it fixed, you hope, based on the qualifications of Bobby

748
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: Johnson coming in and now you need to add players

749
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: or bring back players who you believe can be turned

750
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: around and developed under this new coaching. If you believe

751
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Groy can be more effectively developed under Bobby Johnson

752
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: as well as John Miller, than yes, you consider bringing

753
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: one and or both of them back if you think

754
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: they're a loss cause you look for better upgrades elsewhere.

755
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: It could be one, it could be both, it could

756
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: be none Mills does. In fact, I think Mills is

757
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: as far along in his career where you know what

758
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: he is. There is no more ceiling there, so if

759
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: you feel you have to upgrade on the edge there,

760
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: you simply upgrade and turn the page. I think there

761
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: could be some hope that Groy and or Miller won,

762
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: or both or neither. I mean, any possibility is realistic.

763
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: But I think if they feel in their estimation that

764
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: there is still some ceiling to be reached with John

765
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: Miller or with Ryan Groy, then yes, I think they

766
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: consider bringing them back. But if it's for more than

767
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: the minimum, I would be stunned. I think they're going

768
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 1: to look for upgrades first and then back up options later.

769
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Speaker 1: And I see Ryan Groy and John Miller in their

770
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things with what they envisioned for this

771
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: offensive line as depth players and nothing more. All Right,

772
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: I can accept that, and I'm glad we got to

773
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: Steve and I have talked about that for a while.

774
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. At age twenty five, with all

775
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: of this, don't you think somebody's going to sign John

776
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: Miller and pay him pretty well? Even if it's and

777
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: if it's not the Buffalo Bills, We'll all scratch our

778
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: head and say, well, what's that all? I don't think

779
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: his tape is helping him? Well, I don't find you

780
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: with all that experience, I think is right again and

781
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: again and again. It's kind of the same argument that

782
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: I just used for the Bills. If you believe there

783
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: is more to John Miller than what he put on tape,

784
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: and you have an ego big enough and enough confidence

785
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: in your offensive line staff on your coaching staff that

786
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: you believe they can make him a better player, well

787
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: then yeah, you will invest how much. I don't think

788
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: big money. I'll be surprised if he gets more than

789
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: a two year deal because I don't see anybody given

790
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: given John Miller a lot of rope with what he

791
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: put on tape last year in the year before, well,

792
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, how about what he put on

793
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: tape the year before that? Right? He had, He had

794
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: significant playing time on a very good offensive line that

795
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: led the league. And I'm not advocating the Bills got

796
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: to keep right by the way. I'm saying, somebody's going

797
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: to sign him and probably pay him well, and we're

798
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: gonna be scratching our head saying, huh, what do they

799
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: see that we don't. They're not investing big money in

800
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: John Note. I don't think the Bills are doing that.

801
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: If he wants to come back and compete for a

802
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: spot and be a depth player, then I think there's

803
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: a role for him here. But I think the Bills

804
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: are going to look for bigger and better and more

805
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: talented because that puts less pressure on the development angle.

806
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: You need your line coaches to develop players seven, eight

807
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: and nine in your offensive line contingent to make them

808
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: serviceable plug in players, and then you hope they can

809
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: also take the supremely talented players and make them Pro

810
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber week in and week out, where there is

811
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: no inconsistency in their game and you see them ascending.

812
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: If you see players flatlining. That's a problem because you

813
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: always need to have players doing better and improving in

814
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: the pipeline, just because of the salary cap nature of

815
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: this job of this business. Players are going to go

816
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: out the door and you have to be ready to

817
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: supplement them with capable talent that might not be quite

818
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: there but has the potential to get there based on

819
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: a their talent, and be your ability to develop them

820
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: into the best possible players they can be. I want

821
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: you to give us two offseason moves you'd make if

822
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: you were the Bills general manager. A phone call here

823
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: from Earl in Wellsville. Hello, Earl, go ahead, you're on

824
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: the air with this. Hey, guys, are you doing good?

825
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: I was just catching some of the talker about whether

826
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: we got to improve either on the guard or the

827
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: tackle on the left side, and I truly believe we

828
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: need two good franchise players on that left side there.

829
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: You know, Millard did a good job and stuff, but

830
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: sometimes when they changed the defense, he acted like he

831
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: was lost. You know, he didn't really couldn't pick up

832
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: the guy, and when he did, he was behind it.

833
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: Due Now, we also got a good center that came

834
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: up that they signed. I'm talking about specially. Yeah, he

835
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: might play guard for this team. We don't even know yet.

836
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, you know. But with him in the mix,

837
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: we need a good outside dackle and you're saying the

838
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: left side you got Deon Dawkins. There a lot of

839
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: people I think there's a move in the works for

840
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins, I don't know about. People are desperate to

841
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: flip him over to the right side and try to

842
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: find something better for the left side. Here's what happened

843
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: with Deon Dawkins, at least from my view, seeing him

844
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: at practice every day, watching every game, I felt that

845
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: his play regressed in his second season. I thought he

846
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: was dynamite as a rookie, showed some very encouraging signs,

847
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: but I think his game fell off a little bit

848
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: last year. And you need look no further than the

849
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: evidence of penalties. He was one of the leading committers

850
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: of penalties on that offensive line last season, holding being

851
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: his most egregious offense among the penalties he committed year.

852
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: And yes, is he going against the best pass rusher

853
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: every week that the opponent has to offer. Certainly, but

854
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: you signed up to play left tackle, play left tackle,

855
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: so you knew what the risks are. You know you're

856
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: going against their best every week. But I don't think

857
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: the coaching here helped rectify the problem that cropped up

858
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: for him this season. I'm not saying it's all on

859
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: the coaches. It's partly on Dion as well, But I

860
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: think Dion is a good enough talent, as evidenced by

861
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: the way he played his rookie season, where with proper coaching,

862
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: he is a more than capable left tackle. I would

863
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: say at the very least, he's an above average left tackle,

864
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: with the potential to be even better than that with

865
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: proper coaching development. So I would leave him at left

866
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Speaker 1: tackle and work on the right side of your offensive line, chiefly,

867
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Speaker 1: which has two positions that probably need to be upgraded,

868
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: and then you fill in the rest after that. I agree,

869
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: I would leave more years. I do think there was

870
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: like a focus drift for Dion Dawkins this year, which

871
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: part coaching, but it's also on him too, Yeah, to

872
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: re engage, and that's one of those players that I

873
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: know McDermott was counting on to be a young leader

874
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: for that group, and that didn't happen either. So again

875
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: that's why I'm making the call, you know, when we're

876
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: talking about today's topic and what two moves would you

877
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: make as GM. I would try to get a proven

878
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: veteran guard who can either line up next to Dion

879
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: Dawkins much the way I mean we saw what Richie

880
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: Incognito did for Dion Dawkins as a rookie, proven veteran

881
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: player has you know, Pelts on the wall is a

882
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: guy that's going to be respected when he speaks up

883
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: and says something and gets the job done on the field.

884
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: That's what you need at the guard position to put

885
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: next to Dion Dawkins or on the other side if

886
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: need be. And he's going to help your entire line

887
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: and diversify your offense because he can get out and move,

888
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: execute screens, you know, pull whatever you need him to do,

889
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: he can do it, and he can be a leader

890
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: for you as well. To season moves you would make

891
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: if you were the Bills. GM. Get specific, give us

892
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: a call, tweet it in. Chris Brown and I are

893
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: coming back with more One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

894
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio Show is One Bill's Live.

895
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: We're coming here from One Bill Drive. John Murphy and

896
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: Chris Brown in for Steve Tasker today. Yes, Steve is

897
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: with us tomorrow when we do the show at Indianapolis.

898
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: Question of the day here it is, give us two

899
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: moves this offseason you would make if you were the

900
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: Bills general manager. On the tweet sheet from Jr. He says,

901
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: acquire a top receiver via any way possible, buying an

902
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: offensive line. We haven't talked about receivers yet, Chris important,

903
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: important offseason for the Bills a top receiver. Not sure

904
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: what Jr. Means there? But are we talking about the

905
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: Bills jumping in and paying tons of money to get

906
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: a receiver. I don't know that that's essential. I don't

907
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: think it is. You'd liked it. I love the Bears

908
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: model from last year. They found two good receivers that

909
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: they paid a lot of money for one of them,

910
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: but I think, well, the other one was coming off

911
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: an injury, right in Robinson, Alan Robinson, So you kind

912
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: of got him a little bit cheaper, not a lot,

913
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: but a little bit cheaper. And they're moving on from

914
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: him already, aren't they aren't they are they? I don't know.

915
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: I think they are. They're looking to move him and

916
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: one of our callers earlier, Murph mentioned that in the

917
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: form of Darryl Williams, who is the Carolina right tackle

918
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: whom is to all of last season with an injury,

919
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, if you can get him on the cheap,

920
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: because you don't know what you're going to get from

921
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: him coming off their injury, you know, maybe that is

922
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: a worthwhile investment, you know, risk reward kind of thing.

923
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: Maybe you can get him for less money than the

924
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: going rate for an offensive starting offensive right tackle, you

925
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: know in the NFL currently, So get him on the

926
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Speaker 1: cheap and hope it pans out and he's back from

927
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: his injury. And obviously you've got to rely on your doctors,

928
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: physical that kind of stuff to make that happen. There

929
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: is a familiarity there with the Carolina connection. You know.

930
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: It's it's risk reward and sometimes you got to take

931
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: those chances and hope they pan out for you and

932
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: you can get somebody at below market rate, which in

933
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: free agency is a coup these days. From Jerry Popeye,

934
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: he tweets and signed Darryl Williams Panthers tackle. Just talked

935
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: about him and aj Green Bengals wide receiver who is

936
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: not a free agent, and yet and he's thirty one

937
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: years old, and yet a lot of people interested didn't

938
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: think that somehow he may shake loose. I don't know.

939
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I see it. I guess, Chris,

940
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why the Bengals would let him get away.

941
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: It's hard to five receivers in the league. It's hard

942
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: to figure, especially with a new coach coming in the door,

943
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: especially you know, one with an offensive background who's going

944
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: to need all the weapons he can get in trying

945
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: to rebuild that offense. So yeah, that would surprise me.

946
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: And one more from the tweet sheet from Tiffany Daniels.

947
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: If I were the GM, I would attempt to move

948
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: back from the ninth pick, adding additional picks in this

949
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: year's draft. My next move would be adding offensive weapons

950
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: to play alongside Josh, A top tight end and a

951
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: verse little running back to open up the offense would

952
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: be my top priorities. Yeah, I like to trade back,

953
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: especially I like where the Bills are at, especially with

954
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: quarterback interest. That's the thing that could drive somebody to

955
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: give away a first rounder right to move up in

956
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: the first round. Maybe you think, hey, if we're gonna

957
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: get Murray or somebody else. We got to move up

958
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: to somewhere in the top ten. There are the Bills

959
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: at night. I like that strategy a lot. Well, yeah,

960
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: and I think with all of this defensive talent, it's

961
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: probably going to push some those top two quarterbacks, which

962
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: are largely believed to be Haskins and Murray down, you know,

963
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: to the bottom of the top ten, and that suddenly

964
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: makes the Bills pick all the more attractive. And then

965
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: that puts you in position to move down, as the

966
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: tweeter says, and I'm in favor of that too. If

967
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: you can move down from nine to like somewhere between

968
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: fifteen and twenty, and you can scoop up an extra three,

969
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: now you suddenly have half a dozen picks between rounds

970
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: three and five, and you're in a good spot there

971
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: because there are several need positions for the Bills that

972
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: go that deep. Tight end goes to the fourth round

973
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: with quality players. Offensive line goes to the fourth round

974
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: with quality players. So if you start adding picks in

975
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: rounds three, heck maybe even two, if you know, you

976
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: move down just a little bit or a little bit

977
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: more than maybe is a little outside your comfort zone.

978
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: You can really get yourself in a good position where

979
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: you can get some great value late on day two

980
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: and early on day three. All Right, we're gonna talk

981
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: more about this as we continue through the show. Coming

982
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: up after the top of the hour break. Bruce Feldman,

983
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: Fox Sports sideline reporter called the Bills Lions game this

984
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: year af through of the book The Quarterback, The Making

985
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: of Modern Quarterbacks. Bruce Feldman gonna be with us when

986
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: we come back. Chris Brown's here all day till three.

987
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: It is One Bill's Line, presented by Klatta Health. From

988
00:49:52,760 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Hills

989
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: Radio Network Sports Off Date. The update from One Bill's Drive.

990
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: The Sabers play again tonight. They're in Philadelphia to play

991
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: the Flyers at seven o'clock. That came on NBCSN tonight.

992
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: The Sabers new defenseman Brandon Monteur expected to make his debut.

993
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: Acquired into trade on Sunday night. Last night, Buffalo lost

994
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: to Toronto five to three on the road. Jack Coacho

995
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: with two goals, Sam Reichert Sam Reinhardt also scored I

996
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: go fifteen points in eleven career games against Toronto. Savers

997
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: Philadelphia tonight seven o'clock face off the game on NBCSN

998
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: and of course on the radio here locally on our

999
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: flagship WGR Sports Radio five fifty. Our report out of

1000
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: Miami says the Bills have hired a new director of analytics.

1001
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: Dennis Locke got the job of the Bills after spending

1002
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: the last five years with the Miami Dolphins. He's going

1003
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: to be the football research and the director of Football

1004
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: Research and Strategy for the Buffalo Bills. According to the

1005
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: report from Miami, Nick Bosa getting set for the NFL

1006
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: Scouting Combine. The pass rusher is healthy enough to participate

1007
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: in all the drills this weekend. At the combine, Bosa

1008
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: probably would have been healthy enough a month ago, according

1009
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: to reports. Linemen and linebackers schedule to be on the

1010
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: field for workouts on Sunday. Bosa's senior season cut short

1011
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: by a core muscle injury that required surgery. Our coverage

1012
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: of the combine starts tomorrow twelve noon to three pm.

1013
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: Ravens release veteran white out Michael Crabtree yesterday, was set

1014
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: to make a base salary of five million this year.

1015
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: Lasted just one season in Baltimore. Andrew Whitworth, thirty seven

1016
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: year old left tackle for the Rams, is putting off

1017
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: retirement and play one more season with the Rams. He

1018
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: will finish off the remainder of his contract with Los Angeles.

1019
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: The Least Competition Committee will meet the Combine this week.

1020
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: Talk about a couple of rules issues. We'll talk about

1021
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: that as the show goes along. The Oakland Raiders have

1022
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: a home in Oakland again for the upcoming season. They're

1023
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: gonna move to Las Vegas in twenty twenty. They reached

1024
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: agreement with the Oakland Coliseum Authority for the team to

1025
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: remain in Oakland. Played the twenty nineteen season there in

1026
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: Oakland and the UB Bowls ranked twenty first in the country.

1027
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: Play at home again tonight, the third of the three

1028
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: game homestand home against the Akron Zips. That's a seven

1029
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: o'clock tipop at Alumni Arena. And that's the update from

1030
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Chris Brown in for

1031
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker getting set for the Combine. Everybody in the

1032
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: NFL getting set for the Combine, including our next guest.

1033
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: He is a sideline reporter for this Fox Sports Network

1034
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: National College Football insider for The Athletic, the author of

1035
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: the book The Quarterback, The Making of Modern Quarterbacks, considered

1036
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: the authority on what goes into becoming an NFL quarterback.

1037
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: Happy to have Bruce Felban on the line with his Bruce,

1038
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Chris Brown here in Buffalo. Thank you

1039
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: for joining us. Good afternoon, guys. Good to be on

1040
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: with you. I loved your posts on The Athletic about

1041
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: the freaks to look for, the twelve biggest freaks to

1042
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: watch for at the scouting Combine. That's kind of what

1043
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: we're all looking for, right, the guys who just jump

1044
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: off the page and get your attention at the combine

1045
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, I mean, it's such a unique deal

1046
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: this week where reality is the most important stuff that

1047
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: goes on at the combine and the medical examinations and

1048
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: the interviews, but that stuff's all behind closed doors. It's

1049
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: really hit the worst scouts stuff and the stuff that

1050
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: happens on camera that kind of gets people's attention. And

1051
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, look, you want to see and I've covered

1052
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys in college. You want to

1053
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: see if if all the stories about hey, Rashaun Gary

1054
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: ran a four or five to seven at two hundred

1055
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: and eighty seven pounds last year at Michigan according to

1056
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: the Michigan stuff. But that is he's really going to

1057
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: test that freakish. And then you have other guys. I mean,

1058
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: the guy wrote a lot about in there today. John Kaminski,

1059
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: a Division two guy at defensive Lineman University of Charleston.

1060
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: He was a high school quarterback at two hundred and

1061
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds. Now he's two eighty five. And you know,

1062
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: the guys I've talked to have worked out with him

1063
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: that he could run into four sixes and his stock

1064
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: all really blow up this week. So I mean, this

1065
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: is a really good window into it, and that story,

1066
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: like you said, on the Athletic just kind of spotlights

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Speaker 1: some of the guys who really want to keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on this week. Maybe more than anything, though, Bruce

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00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: is even more than where these guys might test. He's

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00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: where a lot of these players have come from in

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00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: terms of body composition. I mean, I mean Andre Dillard,

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Speaker 1: the Washington State offensive tackle that you profiled on that list.

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00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, just to think five years ago, the guy's

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00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: six four, two forty and you know now he's playing

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00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: at three h five and he's considered one of the

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00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: best tackles in the draft, and then you're saying he's

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00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: he might run in the four eights. I mean, it's

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00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: almost like the athleticism never left him. I'm just amazed

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Speaker 1: at the weight some of these people can carry at

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Speaker 1: the speed they carry it in. Yeah, and into that story,

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00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, Clay maguire, who's the offensive was the offensive

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Speaker 1: line coach and recruit at the Washington State So, yeah,

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00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: the ten and twenty yards splits, which they time for it.

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00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: He goes, he's one of the fastest guys that we

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00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: had on the team. He thinks he may run in

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00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: the four age, as you said, was six four two forty.

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Speaker 1: Now it's interesting with offensive lineman because, especially at a

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00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: school like Washington State, it's not Alabama, it's not Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: You're going to project more because you're not going to

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00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: get that guy who might be ready made. And so

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00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: they're you know, as Clay was explained, he goes, when

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00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: you're the offensive line coach from Mike Leach, he's gonna

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00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: take five every year and you're going to project. And

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00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: they knew that Andre Diller was really athletic, then if

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00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: his dad was a Porner Washington State player, and they

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00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: liked his genetics, and you're like, okay, when in a

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00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: good nutrition program and a good weight program. It's just

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00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: with four or five years. They're not sure if he's

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00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: going to be three or five, but they think, you know,

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Speaker 1: he can help us down the road because it's like,

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00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, the athleticism is the hard part. To have

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00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: a big guy with a big frame, with those kind

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00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: of feet. It's the other part if he can't move.

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00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: If you can't move at all in your six five,

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00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: three hundred, I mean you're gonna get exposed, especially in

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00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: a team that throws it as much as they do.

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00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: Right in line with Bruce Feldman, national college football insider

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00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: for The Athletic, who's written about the twelve freaks to

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00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: watch for at the Combine this week. One of them

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00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 1: got my attention on your list, A couple did, actually, Bruce,

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00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: But DK Metcalf, the receiver from Ole Miss who you

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00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: talk about how he's shredded. He's got a teammate who'll

1113
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: be there as well, a very productive college football teammate.

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00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: But Metcalf looks like the type of physical specimen that

1115
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 1: we'll get people's attention this weekend. Yeah, I mean his dad,

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00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: Terrence Metcalf, played at Old Miss, played in the NFL

1117
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: for the Bears for while. I was an old alignment

1118
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: when this guy, when I talked to coaches at Old Miss,

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00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: they said, as big as he was, or big as

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Speaker 1: he is, six three, around two twenty five, ran in

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00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: the four fours and broad jumps eleven one. So it's

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00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: not just that he's some ridiculous, freaky looking shredded specimen. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think one of the concerns that NFL teams are

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00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: gonna want to see is, you know, is he too big?

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00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: You know, everybody remembers David Boston, didn't you know he

1126
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: almost looked like a bodybuilder out there, and he was

1127
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: a star player at Ohio State, and that almost got

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00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: so big that you lose the kind of flexibility and

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00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 1: the things you need to do as a football player,

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00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: certainly as a wide receiver. Now, I don't think DK

1131
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: Metcalf is that big, but he is a chiseled, impressive

1132
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,959
Speaker 1: looking guy. And I think what NFL people are gonna

1133
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: want to see this week is how flexibly is he

1134
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: and not just how strong he is, Because it's more

1135
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: than just an eyeball test out there, but just definitely

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00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: as a as a physical specimen. He has something to see.

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Speaker 1: There's one more receiver I want to ask you about it,

1138
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: and that's a Andy Isabella, the UMass receiver. And I

1139
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: watched him at the Senior Bowl a month and a

1140
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: half ago and thought, okay, he's a nice little player.

1141
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't see it on the field. His

1142
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: forty time a spectacular and he's going to open up

1143
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: some eyes when he runs a forty at the combine

1144
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: this week. I would think, right, yeah, no offers out

1145
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: of high school other than Mark Whipple, a former Steelers assistant,

1146
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: was the head coach at UMass and was looking for speed,

1147
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: and this kid has legit tracks. Beat Remember Denzel Award

1148
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: from Ohio State last year was the fastest corner back

1149
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 1: in Indy was clocked at a four three two. This

1150
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: guy beat handily beat Denzel Award and a hundred meter

1151
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: race in high school ran a ten to five one.

1152
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: Award ran a ten to six eight. He's got legit,

1153
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: big time track speed, he's strong, he's awesome. I think

1154
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: this is a key thing. When you know Whipple told

1155
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: me he said, whenever we played really fast defenses in college.

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00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: You know, people go U mass. It's not big, big,

1157
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: big time football. It's the smaller FD program. When he

1158
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: played Florida, when he played Mississippi State, when he played US,

1159
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: and also when he played Georgia, he ran away from

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00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: really fast defenses. He put up big, big numbers against

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00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: those guys. So it's not like just the guy who's

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00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: feasted on lower level competition. He compared him to me,

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00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: to Travis Benjamin, who he coached at the University of Miami,

1164
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: and I would not Travis Benjamin ran four three six.

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00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would be disappointed if

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00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: Andy s Devella doesn't even run even further faster. Now,

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00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: he's not going to test grate in the jumps because

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00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: he is. That's the guy who trained and said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I think he can get in the four twos.

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Speaker 1: To keep an eye on him. He's a guy that

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00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: I think are a lot of people are excited to

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00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: see this week. But projecting him as a slot receiver

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00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: as most have done, it's the change of direction too,

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00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: and he appears to have that because he's got such

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00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: a low center of gravity. So short shuttle is that

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00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 1: that number is going to be important for a guy

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00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: like him as well, will it not be? It will

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00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: and he's a guy they think should be subpot two.

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00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: Now you look at some of the guys who who

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00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: run blazing short shuttle times. You know, Julian Edelman actually

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00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: when he was in the mac ran a really really

1182
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: fast time. Dionne Branch, who obviously had a great career

1183
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: with the with the Patriots as well, he ran a

1184
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: ridiculous time in the threes. And there aren't a lot

1185
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: of guys who cracked that for one range. Andy Isabella

1186
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: should be in that, I mean, and that's definitely one

1187
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: of the times we all for years have gotten so

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00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: fixated on the forty that some of these other numbers,

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00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, especially as the real other positions, are

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Speaker 1: the ones that I think a lot of people are

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00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: gonna are gonna look at their stop watching. Okay, what

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00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: did he do here? Because again that's a that's a

1193
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: really interesting metric to see just what guys will do.

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00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Wes Welker I think was in a four

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00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: oh one, Julian Edelmand was a three nine two. You

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00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: go back to Branch, I think he was in the

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Speaker 1: mid three seven. So we'll see, we'll see what we

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Speaker 1: get here from from andya. Zabella brus Feldman from The

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Speaker 1: Athletic and Fox Sports Southern reported a brush we'll watch

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01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 1: for those freaks you write about. Well, also, everybody keeps

1201
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: an eye in the quarterbacks. Who has the most to

1202
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: prove among the quarterback group of the combine this week?

1203
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: Would you think, well, I think we're gonna want to

1204
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: see just how physically big Kyler Murray is. Not just

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01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: how tall. They know he's probably gonna be suck somewhere

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Speaker 1: in the five nine range. It's just like, is he

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Speaker 1: gonna be slight or is he gonna look like he's

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01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: gonna take a little bit of a pounding. I think

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01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: that's really gonna be telling. Is he actually two hundred

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Speaker 1: five pounds? I mean when you see Russell Wilson shorter quarterback,

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01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield shorter quarterback, those guys were thicker guys. I mean,

1212
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Speaker 1: that wasn't what Kyler Murray looked like in college. You know,

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01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: maybe he's put on fifteen pounds since then to get

1214
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: ready for this, and we'll see if he's maintained that,

1215
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, the great speed that we had. I think

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01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: I want to see him. I'm not sure you know

1217
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: you have a guy like a Drew Locke, Jared Stidham.

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01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: Those guys, I mean, I've seen a lot of them

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01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: in college. They will throw well in this setting. The

1220
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: stuff I think you won't be able to see here

1221
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: is the stuff in the games, which is you know,

1222
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if you know Drew Lock,

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01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: the guy from Missoi, Missouri, put up big numbers in

1224
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: Jared's him. I would not be surprised if they impressed

1225
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: people here in this setting. It's the question, and that's

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01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's not just throwing it around in shorts

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01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: and a T shirt. I mean, I think when people

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Speaker 1: see Dwayne Haskins from a high spit don't be impressed

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01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: his film and he's played against much better defenses than

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01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: and excelled against them. Were those other guys, I don't

1231
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: know if they've been as sharp. Those are Those are

1232
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: guys I want to see. But I really want to

1233
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: see what Kyler Murray. You know how he looks physically there,

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01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,959
Speaker 1: But go ahead, it's not only how he looks though.

1235
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, if he if he carries it, well,

1236
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: that's all well and good. But he's still got a

1237
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: test with twenty extra pounds on his frame, and I'm

1238
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: wondering what he might cost himself on the back end there,

1239
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: even though he might allay the fears of his durability

1240
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: by adding twenty pounds of meat to his frame, right,

1241
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: and the war here is going to be people are

1242
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: expecting him to run like four three eight. You know

1243
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: he is when I Baker Mayfield told me a year

1244
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: ago he's the fastest guy on our team. Well, if

1245
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: he puts on twenty pounds and he runs four four nine,

1246
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: that's still really fast, certainly for a quarterback. But again

1247
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: we remember we're talking about a guy who is smaller.

1248
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: Is there going to be some trade off where he's

1249
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: put packed on some bulk? But if he's running around

1250
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: four or five as opposed to four three eight, it's

1251
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: still fast, but it's not quite the wow factor. And

1252
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: so so I'm curious to see that because people are

1253
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: talking about him like he's gonna be the fastest quarterback

1254
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: we've seen in a long time. Come through that he's

1255
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: definitely gonna be the smallest we've scene. So where does

1256
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: it add up? And I think you know, one thing

1257
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: to keep in mind is He's phenomenal in college just

1258
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: like like Baker was. He didn't play the greatest defenses

1259
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: in college football in the Big Twelve, and when he

1260
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: played stepped up you know some of those he was.

1261
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: He had a good, good but body performing against Alabama

1262
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: in the in the Orange Bowl. So I don't know

1263
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: if I see him as the lock. Some other people

1264
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: are saying he is at this point. And as far

1265
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 1: as some of the other quarterbacks you mentioned talking about

1266
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: Jared Stidham and Drew Locke, and they might excel in

1267
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: this format here at the Combine, but you know, watching

1268
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: those two at the Senior Bowl, I didn't think either

1269
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: one of them excelled. In fact, I came away unimpressed

1270
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: with those two. In particular at the Senior Bowl. I

1271
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: didn't see much there. What do you think, well, Locke,

1272
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: Locke put up big numbers in a system that is

1273
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: still I would say, you know, he's a good athlete,

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Speaker 1: was a big time basketball recruit. I don't see him

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Speaker 1: as a top fifteen pick. I can see why people

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Speaker 1: will like him. You know, Stidham had a really up

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Speaker 1: and down career, and I think when he was at Auburn,

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Speaker 1: you know how Gus Malson handled of him. You hear

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Speaker 1: a lot of rumblings under the surface about that that

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Speaker 1: probably wasn't the best situation for him. I think he's

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Speaker 1: really talented. A year ago, I was out at the

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Speaker 1: Ilite eleven where they had a bunch of the top

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Speaker 1: not just high school quarterbacks but college quarterbacks throwing, and

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Speaker 1: he was one of the guys who would wow you

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Speaker 1: more so than some of the you know, and then

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Speaker 1: I thought Locke didn't some of the other guys, whether

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Speaker 1: it was a Wolgre or there. There are guys in

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Speaker 1: this class, but the performance on the field was so inconsistent. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, just from talking to people who worked with

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Speaker 1: him and everything, I feel like he's been under it's

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Speaker 1: underachieved a little bit, quite honestly, and he's definitely talented.

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Speaker 1: I expect that people will see him and they will

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Speaker 1: come away impressed in this setting, but maybe he didn't

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Speaker 1: stand up and that, you know, in the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: as well as they thought. I think after coming through

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Speaker 1: this process, I expect to stock to go up. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know if it's going to be one of

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Speaker 1: those I don't want to say it's going to be

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Speaker 1: Christian Hackenburg guests, but when you have a guy who's

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Speaker 1: a really really high, high rated recruit and the productivity

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Speaker 1: is a match, and he had a better career than

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Speaker 1: than Hackenburg did. But again, I think sometimes you've got

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Speaker 1: to be a little weary of the guys who are

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Speaker 1: the big, big time recruit. People like to watch him

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Speaker 1: throw in shorts and a T shirt because they seem

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Speaker 1: to be pretty smooth in that way. Blaine Gabbert was

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Speaker 1: that way, to be honest, where he looked great in

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Speaker 1: the informal stuff and he's a good athlete. He was

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Speaker 1: a big recruit, but then it doesn't quite translate when

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Speaker 1: the actual game is being played. And that's the stuff

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Speaker 1: I think you gotta you know, I don't end be

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Speaker 1: the NFL people who are going to be investing in

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Speaker 1: these guys. The one other quarterback who's going to be

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Speaker 1: at the combine this week that we wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: you about is the Buffalo kid, Tyree Jackson. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: you could very easily put a highlight reel together with

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Speaker 1: some of the plays he's made in his college career,

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Speaker 1: but it's all the stuff in between that I think

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Speaker 1: stamps him in most people's eyes as a project type quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So how much does that thin the suitors, the crop

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Speaker 1: of suitors for a guy that's going to need time

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Speaker 1: on the job to develop and become a more consistent player. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the concern. I mean, you have a guy who

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Speaker 1: he had two really good receivers there a Buffalo who

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Speaker 1: were like big, big time, you know, college receivers that help.

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Speaker 1: I think he was in a good system there with

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Speaker 1: with land flightfold and what they do, um the physical

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Speaker 1: arm talents there. The part that concerns me though, is

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Speaker 1: is he accurate enough and is he going to make

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Speaker 1: good enough decisions. I know he's been out here on

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Speaker 1: the West Coast there, they're intrigued by his talent. I

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Speaker 1: think he's totally a developmental guy in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, what situation does he go to?

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Speaker 1: Does he go does he goes somewhere where you know

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Speaker 1: they're they're going to be invested in him. But again,

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Speaker 1: it's not like necessarily the starter he's going to automatically

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Speaker 1: want to take him under his winning and groomer. I

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Speaker 1: think there'll be some stuff for people to like and

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01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: then some other stuff. You can see the flatfoot at

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Speaker 1: throws where there's just a lot of natural arm strength.

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Speaker 1: He is a big, imposing, physically talented kid. But again,

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Speaker 1: if you're not that accurate, that's the part that that

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Speaker 1: would give me some pause. Again, I think he'll get

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Speaker 1: drafted platively highly, but you know there is I you know,

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Speaker 1: go back a few years. Logan Thomas was at Argene

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Speaker 1: Attack had a huge arm six you know, like similar

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01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: sized guy six six to forty looks like almost like

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Speaker 1: a tight end. But some of the nature of the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacking play and it wasn't for Logan Thomas a pretty

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01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: bright kid. Obviously he's you know, now playing tight end.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's something people are going to see,

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Speaker 1: the parallels of a big kid with a strong arm,

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01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: just maybe the accuracy isn't quite there to play play

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Speaker 1: quarterback at the NFL level or not at least be

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Speaker 1: a starting quarterback. So it's going to be, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be an interesting evaluation for a lot of

1357
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Speaker 1: people to try to figure out where he can be,

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Speaker 1: not just now, but where he's two years from now.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of accuracy, Bruce, and you were you. Bruce

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Speaker 1: Fellman is our guest, the author of the books the

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Speaker 1: quarterback to making a modern quarterbacks. You, I believe were

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01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: among many who questioned a year ago Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: his accuracy issues. You came here did the Bills Lions

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Speaker 1: game this past season, so Josh, you know, up close

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Speaker 1: and personal from your purchase the sideline reporter, What did

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01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: you think of Josh Allen when you saw him compared

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Speaker 1: to what you thought about him coming out in the draft,

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Speaker 1: and what do you think his prospects are for the future.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was impressed by how he handled things,

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Speaker 1: and we talked to a lot of people in the

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Speaker 1: building about him and it was all positive. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's still raw. I think a lot of this stuff

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Speaker 1: when we when we had him, he was coming off

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Speaker 1: a couple of games where his athleticism, which nobody questioned

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01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: at the draft process, was on display and he ran

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01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: it even probably better than people as good as people

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01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: thought of an athlete he was. I think even you know,

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01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,440
Speaker 1: it took it to another level there with his competitiveness,

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01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: and those are all those are all big pluses. I

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01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: think the challenge for him and for that staff is

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01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: going to be again the accuracy and the consistency for

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Speaker 1: him to keep developing. I mean I think, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: they have to surround him with better weapons. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I really, I really came away a fan of Robert Foster,

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01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: the old Alabama receiver who's freakishly athletic um but was

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Speaker 1: pretty unrefined. And I think they've nurtured him really well.

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Speaker 1: And I give that kid a lot of credit. And

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Speaker 1: I think when you have a season where you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of injuries and a lot of things that

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01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,839
Speaker 1: just don't go right, you have some kid like that emerge.

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01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: I think that was a really, you know, a cool

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Speaker 1: little subplot to the rookie story that they had in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: But as far as Josh goes, I just think it's

1394
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: got to be the burden is going to be on

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Speaker 1: him to continue to refine his skills. And I don't know, again,

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Speaker 1: I was optimistic coming out of our you know, our

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Speaker 1: week there. But if you ask me, is he going

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Speaker 1: to be a he is he gonna be a Pro

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01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: Bowl quarterback? I'm still taking the weight and see approach

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Speaker 1: because we just haven't seen him be consistent enough and accurate,

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Speaker 1: accurate enough to play quarterback at the NFL position. I

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01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: don't think we saw enough to say definitively, I think

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01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: he's definitely on the right track. But I think what

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01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: we saw at least from the competitiveness and the athleticism part,

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01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: and how he was able to should the responsibility, I

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01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: think those are all big positives for him. Yeah. Fair enough, Hey, Bruce,

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Speaker 1: this is great. We hope to see the combined later

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Speaker 1: this week. Thank you for spending a few minutes with

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Speaker 1: us here today. We appreciate it. My pleasure looking forward

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Speaker 1: to it, guys. Thank you Bruce Felman joining us on

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Speaker 1: the subway Fresh State Hotline. Bruce Feldman is the author

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Speaker 1: of the book The Quarterback To Making a Modern Quarterback,

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Speaker 1: sideline reporter for the Fox Sports NFL broadcast, National College

1414
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Speaker 1: Football insider for The Athletic. We thank Bruce for joining us.

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Speaker 1: That's fair his assessment of Josh, I would think, right, Yeah,

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01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean totally fair. Yeah. You know, with me and

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01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: Steve and I go through this all the time, and

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01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: I guess we have a habit of asking folks what

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01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: do you think of Josh. I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge

1420
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: that he's not a finished product and is much more

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01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: work to come. And I think that's kind of what

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01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman said, to right, Brandon Bean said it at

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: the end of season press conference. He said he has

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01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: not arrived yet. So I mean that's straight from the

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01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: guy who's evaluating him every day on practice tape and

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Speaker 1: game tape. Yeah, so I think it's a fair assessment. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thank you do. Bruce Feldman joining us on

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Speaker 1: the Subway Fresh Take huntline presented by Subway Restaurants Proud

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Speaker 1: to be locally owned and operated. Today. I believe it's today, Chris.

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Speaker 1: The NFL Competition Committee is meeting at the Combine and

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01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: they got some issues. They're discussing potential rule changes. We'll

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01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: go through some of those when we come back in

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01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: a moment. You can also weigh in on our Twitter

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01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: poll today. If you were the Buffalo Bills general manager,

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01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: what two things would you do this offseason? What two

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01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: moves would you make? And get specific? Phone lines open

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Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty and toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Chris is in

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Speaker 1: for Steve Tasker. We're back at a moment. One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive. This

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back. It is one Bill's line.

1442
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm John Murphy and Chris Brown is in for Steve Tasko.

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01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 1: Steve is back Tomorrow. We'll be at the NFL's counting

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Speaker 1: combine tomorrow. Tomorrow is Wednesday, Thursday and Friday twelve noon

1445
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: to three pm combine coverage. We'll hear from head coach

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01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: John McDermott. What do you think coaches got to say

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01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: to us tomorrow? Well, he'll certainly have something to say

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01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 1: about his the new additions to his coaching staff, right, Um,

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01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: he hasn't really spoken about that too much. He had

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01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 1: one higher I think the last time we talked Bobby Johnson,

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01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: this was at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, who's he hired

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01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: since then? I don't think Bob Bobby Johnson was not

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01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: hired before the Senior Bowl? Was he? I don't know, No,

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01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 1: I'm confused. I can't remember. Now it all blends together,

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01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: it does, so you can talk about that. The coaching moves. Yeah,

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01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: he's got an online coach, assistant online coach, he's coach.

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01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 1: I think Heath Farwell had been hired by the Senior

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01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 1: Bobby Johnson was had been hired. He was there. In fact,

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01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: I was there Okay, yes, but you're right they have

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01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: Dorsey the quarterback coach has been I rise and what

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01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: else can coach? What's he gonna update to Sam? Can't

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01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: think a much. Well, so long that's signing of Spencer. Yeah,

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01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: I mean he's probably gonna get asked about, you know,

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01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: what do you do with your current free agents? And

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01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: he'll probably have a general answer for that, general being

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01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: the operative term. Right. You know, he's he's not gonna

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01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: play his hand and now let everybody out let other

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01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: thirty one other teams know what they're gonna do. So

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Speaker 1: why is he gonna tell us? Our question for you today?

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Speaker 1: If you were the Bills GM, give us two moves

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Speaker 1: you'd make this offseason. We'll take your tweets on it

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01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: at one Bills Live. We'll take your phone calls on

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: it at eight oh three five fifty and toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of a new quarterbacks coach, Ken Dorsey, Chris, you

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Speaker 1: wrote a piece that is up right now on Buffalo

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01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: bills dot com about Ken Dorsey and uh you went

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01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: to a guy who has worked with him. When did

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Speaker 1: this piece come up? Yesterday? Yesterday twelve noon. You went

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Speaker 1: to a guy who has worked under Kin Dorsey to

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01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: get some inside into what he might be like for

1482
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Right, Yeah, And the reason why was just

1483
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: in kind of researching where their two careers Dorsey and

1484
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: Anderson's intersected. Everybody knows that Dorsey was the quarterbacks coach

1485
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: in Carolina when Derek Anderson was there as the backup

1486
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:22,480
Speaker 1: behind Cam Newton, but Anderson and Dorsey were also teammates

1487
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: in Cleveland for a span of three seasons. Anderson was

1488
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 1: there from five to oh nine, but Dorsey was there

1489
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: from six to eight as a backup. And what Dorsey

1490
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: did to help Anderson as the then starter at the

1491
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 1: time in two thousand and seven when the team went

1492
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: ten and six, which I think is their best record

1493
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 1: in the since the turn of the century the Browns

1494
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: in the regular season, he kind of knew then that

1495
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 1: Dorsey had this keen ability to pass along solutions. And really,

1496
01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: what quarterbacks are are problem solvers. I mean they dropped

1497
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: back to pass, They got to solve a problem, especially

1498
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 1: if the play doesn't unfold the way it was anticipated

1499
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: three quarters of a second. Right, And at that time

1500
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, the offensive coordinator was Rob Jadzinski,

1501
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: and Anderson, as I said, was the starter. Dorsey was

1502
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: the backup. Dorsey had worked with Jadzinski at the University

1503
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: of Miami his last two seasons with the Hurricanes, and

1504
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: he was familiar with the scheme, and so Derek, who's

1505
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: trying to pick this scheme up and master it as

1506
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: best as he can, is talking to Chud as much

1507
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: as possible. But he said that the input he would

1508
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: get from Dorsey, having been in the system and played

1509
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: in it, was instrumental in helping him get put together

1510
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: what was the best season of his career. I mean,

1511
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: twenty nine touchdowns against nineteen interceptions and almost thirty eight

1512
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: hundred yards passing on a Browns team that didn't have

1513
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: a whole lot to work with and go to a

1514
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: ten and six record was pretty compressive. So then you

1515
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: fast forward and now all of a sudden, he's his

1516
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach in thirteen, and he was impressed at a

1517
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: different level because he saw him in a different light,

1518
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: obviously as a coach, not a player. And he said

1519
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: the way he helped Cam Newton process the cerebral parts

1520
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: of the quarterback position was what was most impressive to

1521
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: him because if we remember, Cam Newton comes into the

1522
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: league in two thousand and eleven, throws for four thousand

1523
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: yards as a rookie. I mean, it's not like the

1524
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: guy was showing an inability to be effective as a quarterback.

1525
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: He took his game to another level from a cerebral

1526
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: perspective and turned him into an NFL MVP in twenty fifteen. Yeah,

1527
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: I think, and I did say on the show towards

1528
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: the end of last season, I think David Culley did

1529
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: a really good job, more than a fine job with

1530
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: Josh Allen this past year. But here comes Ken Dorsey

1531
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: with an entirely different background and skill set, right, Yeah,

1532
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 1: a guy who has solved those problems on the field

1533
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: in an NFL setting in the short time you have

1534
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: to do it. And as you as you point out

1535
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: a guy who has already helped a younger, a young

1536
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: quarterback developed in his first couple of years in Cam Newton,

1537
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: I think that bodes well for what Dorsey might be

1538
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: able to do for Josh. And a lot of people

1539
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: have compared Josh Allen's physical skill set to that of

1540
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, so I think he's kind of got the

1541
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: same piece of clay to mold here that he did

1542
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: with Cam Newton down in Carolina. So I think there

1543
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: are enough parallels there that Dorsey, even though he's going

1544
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: to be the new guy in the room, we'll be

1545
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: able to kind of hit the ground running. Because that's

1546
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: one of the questions I asked Derek when I talked

1547
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: to him on the phone. I said, Look, he's the

1548
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: new guy in the room now though this is a

1549
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: new scheme for him, you know, how is that all

1550
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 1: going to play out? And he said, I'm going to

1551
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: tell you right now, he said, the guy's already finding

1552
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: all the answers to how this offense operates against just

1553
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: about every defensive scenario you can come up with. So

1554
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: he will have the answers, he said, and answer Dorsey

1555
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: will because the scheme is new to him. He's getting

1556
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: up to speed on it. So when he walks back

1557
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: in the door in April with the players, he knows

1558
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 1: everything soup to nuts, front to back, back to front.

1559
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: And he even Derek even said to me, even when

1560
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: Dorsey doesn't have the answer right there at the drop

1561
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: of the hat, he'll go get it for you and

1562
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: have it in pretty short order. So He's a detail

1563
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: oriented guy, and I think the most encouraging thing that

1564
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: I heard from him. And I speak of this not

1565
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 1: knowing fully how all quarterback rooms operate, but the mental

1566
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: gymnastics that Dorsey puts his quarterbacks through, according to Anderson,

1567
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: is unique. He has not seen anybody do it with

1568
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 1: the variety with which Dorsey does. He's always tweaking it,

1569
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 1: changing it. And you know, it's like a lightning round

1570
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: game show. And he's Alex Trebek, so you know it's

1571
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 1: it's an interesting approach to kind of keep young developing

1572
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:48,560
Speaker 1: players engaged. If you watch the Bills in the offseason

1573
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: workouts last year, the OTA's mini camps, if you were

1574
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: a training camp, watch Josh Allen, if you got a

1575
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 1: chance to watch practice here, you could not find Josh

1576
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: Allen on the practice field without seeing Brian Dable virtually, right.

1577
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: You think that will change now with Ken Dorsey in

1578
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: the picture. No. I asked Eric that as well, and

1579
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: he said he fully expects Brian Dable to still be

1580
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: heavily involved, but he sees Dorsey as a valuable counterpoint

1581
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 1: to whatever Dabele brings to the table, and he can

1582
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 1: get it down to more of a microscopic level from

1583
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: what Dabele really has time for. I mean, he's still

1584
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: got to run the whole offense. He's still got to

1585
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,919
Speaker 1: design a game plan every week, right right. And Dorsey's

1586
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: good at that too, because he worked pretty closely with

1587
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: Jazinski in formulating game plans and then did it at

1588
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: Carolina as well with the ocs there. So I still

1589
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: expect Dabele to have a very heavy hand in the

1590
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: scheming and the development of Josh Allen. But the point

1591
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: here is Dorsey can take it a step further. He's

1592
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: done it with players like Cam Newton, you know, who

1593
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 1: are similar in skill set, and he's done it very successfully.

1594
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean, NFL MVP, that's a pretty good gem to

1595
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: have your quarterback coaching resume. Somebody brought this up on

1596
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: the show week or so ago, Chris, and I think

1597
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: I am guilty. Maybe others are too, of underestimating how

1598
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 1: much benefit there will be this year, this offseason, this

1599
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: mini camps and OTAs and training camp, the time that

1600
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: can now be devoted to getting Josh Ellen ready to play.

1601
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: There was a bonifide legitimate three way quarterback competition started

1602
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: last April went right up until well, I mean it

1603
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: went into the season right until week one of the season.

1604
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 1: That's gone. Now there's time now to work with Josh

1605
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: as the starter. I think he will benefit maybe more

1606
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: than we even anticipate. Right, No, I fully believe that

1607
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: and reps are going to count. For a guy that's

1608
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, improve his game. He knows the

1609
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: areas where he has to be better, and I think

1610
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: because he is so dead sit on being great, that

1611
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: he will take the time necessary to perfect or at

1612
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 1: least improve those skills to a level that's going to

1613
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: help him win football games for this team. But swinging

1614
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: it back Dorsey, the interesting thing here is Dorsey's got

1615
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: the coach's hat, and now Derek Anderson is in a

1616
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: similar position to where Dorsey was when he was playing

1617
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: as a backup. Because now you know, because Anderson talked

1618
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: to me. He said it more than once about how

1619
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: valuable he felt Dorsey's input to him was. Because it's

1620
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: one thing to get it from your coach. It's another

1621
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: to get it from a teammate, a player that's in

1622
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: that room too. And now he's kind of wearing that

1623
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: hat that Dorsey first wore when he was a backup

1624
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and Anderson knows Dorsey pretty well. I mean

1625
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: they used to hang out his teammates. He said he

1626
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: got a little tricky when he came in as a

1627
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: coach at Carolina because they still wanted to hang out.

1628
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 1: But the dynamic was different because he was a coach,

1629
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: he was a player. But I guess what I'm saying

1630
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 1: here in a long winded way is the pipeline of

1631
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: messaging doesn't only have to come from Dorsey to Alan.

1632
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: It can come from Dorsey to Anderson to Alan. And

1633
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: I think that will help because it won't be the

1634
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: same voice always in Allen's here. Chris's post is up

1635
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: now went up yesterday on Buffalo bills dot com. What

1636
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: can Ken Dorsey do for Josh Allen, the bills new

1637
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach? It's definitely a worthy read. We're going to

1638
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: get to our topic about the competition committee. But a

1639
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: call on the line about the question if you were

1640
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: the Bills, GM, give us two moves you would make?

1641
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: Got a caller from Los Angeles. Patrick on the line

1642
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: from Los Angeles, Hi, Pat, go ahead, Hey, thanks you

1643
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: for thinking my call. Sure. I just wanted to say

1644
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: I think the best way to address the tight ends

1645
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: in the wide receiver situation, just to get a number

1646
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: one is through the draft. And now that I just

1647
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: found out thanks to you guys, that Metcalf's dad is,

1648
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, the legendary return man and specialists from the Browns.

1649
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: I feel really competent, develop even more int' such a

1650
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 1: better football player here. Yeah, you got the wrong Metcalf.

1651
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: Actually it's it's Terrence Metcalf, not Eric Metcalf. Terrence Metcalf

1652
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: was an offensive lineman in the league, so not exactly

1653
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: the same, but you can see where he gets his

1654
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: size from, certainly, So sorry to rain on your parade there. Ye.

1655
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: So you're saying DK Metcalfe is the guy for the Bills?

1656
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 1: Is that what you called in to? Sat Patrick? I

1657
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: feel like it's if we can pick up one of

1658
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 1: the superstar offensive tackles only in round one. The rest

1659
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: of the way, it's like free agency. I think we

1660
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: can get some really good linements. But I didn't see

1661
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: that the wide receiver and tight end position would be

1662
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: able to be fulfilled via free agency. I mean, unless

1663
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: somehow we get Antonio Brown, which seems to be setting

1664
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: the internet on fire way, but we definitely need a

1665
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver. One would be awesome to have, you know,

1666
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: someone like an A B and say, and you know,

1667
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 1: like from there on out, I liked everybody else to perform,

1668
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: like Foster and McKenzie, but it's like that would be

1669
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 1: an awesome starting four whatever. You need a real number

1670
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: one and then the other three guys filling in and

1671
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, Josh Allen coming back. I do tend to

1672
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: agree with them. I think you need a proven number

1673
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: one receiver on this roster. You need a guy that

1674
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: when the chips are down and you need a play

1675
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 1: to be made, you have the guy that you target

1676
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: eight to twelve times a game every week and the

1677
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: opponent knows you're going to him and he still makes

1678
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: a play for you. That's that's what has to be

1679
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: added here. You have the role players in the receiving corps.

1680
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: You know, you have Za Jones as a slot, you

1681
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: have Robert Foster as your field stretcher. You know, you

1682
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: need the proven number one, and you may have to

1683
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 1: overpay a little bit to do that because it's probably

1684
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: got to be in the form of a veteran. I

1685
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: don't even though there may be some receiver talents that

1686
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: physically can play in this league without a problem. And

1687
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, metcalf is a perfect example at six three,

1688
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty pounds and has a twelve pack

1689
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: instead of a six pack. For abs, I still think

1690
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: you have to go with a guy who has been there,

1691
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: done it. And I'm not saying it has to be

1692
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. There are other options, but you need you

1693
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: need a number one guy that is getting eight to

1694
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: twelve targets a week. He is the number one part

1695
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 1: of your passing game plan every week and delivers. Can

1696
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: you get that in the draft? I don't know. I

1697
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: don't know either. I don't think so. I don't either.

1698
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: I think free agency is a way to go with that. Yep,

1699
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take a break. We are going

1700
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: to get the competition competition committee agenda. We'll talk about

1701
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: that when we come back. Chris Brown is here where

1702
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: there's still three. It's One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive,

1703
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back. It's One

1704
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown is in

1705
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 1: for Steve Tasker today. I'm John Murphy. We're all headed

1706
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: at the Combine later today we'll be there for our

1707
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: show noon to three. Chris will ff coverage to Combine

1708
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills dot Com all week long. We mentioned

1709
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 1: earlier how the Combine is not just the prospect working out,

1710
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,759
Speaker 1: it's sort of an NFL convention and it's already begun

1711
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: in some form today. The NFL's Competition Committee will meet

1712
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: today with our annual meeting, and the biggest item on

1713
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: the end is possible expansion of instant replay. It all

1714
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: comes about because of the no call in the NFC

1715
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: Championship game, the Saints playoff loss to the Rams. NFL

1716
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: Network reports one committee member says he's not sure anything

1717
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: will be done to instant replay this year. They don't

1718
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: see enough support for reviewing non calls like the one

1719
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: that helped the Saints lose. That that was kind of

1720
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 1: an overlooked thing about this call, Chris, that was not made.

1721
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 1: It was a non call. So as much as you

1722
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: want to say, hey NIKEL, Robie Coleman interfered, yes he

1723
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: did hit to the head, Yes it was no call

1724
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: was made. So what exactly, how exactly would instant replay

1725
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 1: as currently constituted, be a factor in fixing that call

1726
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 1: that cannot be really in a non call, and I

1727
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: for one would hate to see non call subject to

1728
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 1: replay review. You know, something happens and no flag throne,

1729
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they can say, yeah,

1730
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 1: but you missed a hold on that player. You missed

1731
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: in this case pass interference. I think the commissioner said

1732
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: it at his State of the Game news conference in

1733
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 1: Atlanta a couple of weeks ago. What do you you know?

1734
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: The unintended consequences of allowing non calls to be reviewed

1735
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: by replay. It's something I don't know the league's ready

1736
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 1: to dive into yet. I agree with this too big

1737
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: a can of worms. And yeah, they're not big on

1738
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 1: opening cans of worms, and they're very concerned with unintended consequences,

1739
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 1: and you've already laid out some that could crop up

1740
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: in the event that they do go that route. So

1741
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 1: I don't really anticipate that getting changed. I don't even

1742
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: know if they're gonna even venture into the realm of

1743
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: calls that are made that are rooted in ju judgment,

1744
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: so past interference. I mean, they've gobbed up the rule

1745
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: book enough already, so I'm hesitant to do it. Again,

1746
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: Basically what this is is there's less there's probably less

1747
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: tolerance for having to take bad medicine based on an

1748
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: unfortunate circumstance that happened in a game. Then maybe there's

1749
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 1: ever been before, and people don't want to accept it

1750
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 1: that there's human error in officiating, and it's there's always

1751
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: going to be human error in officiating because no one's perfect,

1752
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: especially for a game that moves that fast and has

1753
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: it many rules as it does, and when there are

1754
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 1: judgment calls, sometimes the right judgment is going to be made.

1755
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 1: Sometimes the wrong judgment is going to be made, and

1756
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: everybody's got to live with it, whether it helps their

1757
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: team or hurts their team. I mean, I still remember

1758
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 1: the London game where the Bills wipe out the twenty

1759
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: eight to three deficit. They come all the way back,

1760
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,839
Speaker 1: they're ahead thirty one, twenty eight, and the same player involved,

1761
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 1: Nickel Robie Coleman gets called for pass interference that was

1762
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: unequivocally not pass interference. He didn't touch the guy and

1763
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 1: got flagged for PI. Jacksonville gets the first down, finished

1764
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 1: the drive, win the game, and you know, did it suck? Yeah?

1765
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: Really long ride home, I'll tell you that coming from

1766
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: the other side of the Atlantic, but you gotta deal

1767
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 1: with it and just suck it up and take it.

1768
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 1: And I just think there's there are less people than

1769
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: ever that are willing to accept bad circumstances due to

1770
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: human error and suck it up. You gotta suck it up.

1771
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: I think that there are less people ever because the

1772
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: on demand generation here Murph. People want something, they demand it,

1773
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: they can't get it, they don't understand why. Immediate aftermath

1774
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: of that call, and even you know, two weeks later

1775
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl, you can still feel the heat

1776
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: about that non call, and I thought to myself, this,

1777
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: this is big. People really want to change something as

1778
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: a result of that horrible non call. That's a terrible

1779
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: It was a terrible non call. I don't think anybody

1780
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: people were upset about it, really upset. No, I know that,

1781
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: not just in the work because it was a giant

1782
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 1: playoff game. Yeah, I totally get the outrage over the error.

1783
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:42,719
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is you can't you can't venture

1784
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 1: into these judgment calls and think you're gonna fix it.

1785
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 1: I agree, but I don't know that everybody agrees. I

1786
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: don't know that everybody's there where you say they are,

1787
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: and I just think it's unrealistic. And I think in

1788
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 1: this on demand generation and boy, I'm sounding like they

1789
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 1: get off my long guy here, but that's my role.

1790
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 1: But I just think this on demand general ration wants

1791
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: answers for everything or solutions for everything, and I don't

1792
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 1: know that there is one here's that can be practically applied. Yeah,

1793
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is on the Competition Committee, so that would

1794
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 1: make it an interesting meeting today in Indianapolis, Right, Sean Payton,

1795
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 1: I think, head coach of the Saints. Reviewing replay not

1796
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: the only topic of discussion today, NFL dot Com says

1797
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 1: the committee will also look at potentially adjusting the punt

1798
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 1: play in an effort to make it safer, as they

1799
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: did with kickoffs last year. The committee will also discuss

1800
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 1: the helmet rule from last year to decide if the

1801
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: rule change had the desired outcome. Well, it's okay to talk.

1802
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,600
Speaker 1: At least they're talking one thing about and this is

1803
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 1: not a replay issue with the no call the past

1804
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 1: interference in the NFC Championship game, but we've seen it.

1805
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: What about the concept of a super official looking at

1806
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 1: video up top? Who can jump in, and not by

1807
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 1: way of a replay challenge or even a replay review,

1808
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: but just say that's an egregiously wrong call or a

1809
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: non call, and I'm going to use my supreme authority

1810
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 1: here as the super official to fix that. I would

1811
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: not be in favor of that, but it seems to

1812
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: me a little more palatable than putting everything up for review.

1813
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 1: What do you think an official czar? Yes? And how

1814
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: many times can he waive his scepter per game? Three times?

1815
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, the super ref you could. You would

1816
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: have an easier time talking me into that than you

1817
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: would expanding the use of replay. I really believe that

1818
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 1: as long as he gets to wear a cape, you're

1819
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: not taking this seriously. I mean, a qualified official, maybe

1820
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: a guy who can't run up and down the field anymore,

1821
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: who can say, in certain instances when there was an

1822
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: egregiously wrong call or a non call, I'm here to

1823
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 1: fix that. I'm going to fix that right now, without

1824
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: looking at replay, without even worrying about I mean, I

1825
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 1: think they would argue that they're already doing that with

1826
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: New York, you know, looking at all these things, except

1827
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 1: when there's the issue of a non call well true, true,

1828
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 1: New York was powerless in the NFC Championship. Mean, what

1829
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 1: could they do? How much? How much? What kind of

1830
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: salary could you get for that kind of sitting up

1831
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: in the booth, you don't take this. You're not in

1832
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: front of the public eye. You get to rule as

1833
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 1: you see fit and nobody knows who you are. What

1834
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: do you think went on? I mean making a ton

1835
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 1: of money that way? What do you think went on

1836
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: in the end during the NFC Championship game when that call,

1837
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 1: when that flag was not thrown? What do you think

1838
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: went on in New York? Oh, you know what exactly?

1839
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: They're probably saying, call it, call it doing right? What

1840
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 1: could they do? They couldn't do anything? No under the

1841
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: current Yeah, I mean I understand where you're going with

1842
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,759
Speaker 1: all of that, But I think again, you're you're talking

1843
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: about how many times does the guy get to weigh

1844
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 1: in on a game? Is it limitless? Is it only three?

1845
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: Is it fair if it's only three? Because those first

1846
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: three calls might go for one team and then there

1847
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: might be three others later in the game that go

1848
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: for the other team. So now you make it limitless, Well,

1849
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 1: how much time are you taking How quickly does he

1850
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,679
Speaker 1: have to make the decision? You know, is he buzzing

1851
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: the reft down on the field, does he have ten seconds?

1852
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: Does he have a chance to look at a replay?

1853
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 1: You know? And then the argument becomes if he's not

1854
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: going to look at replay review as as I think

1855
01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: you just suggested that guy from three hundred yards way

1856
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 1: up in a box is going to make that ruling

1857
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: for when there's a guy on the field that's, you know,

1858
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: fifteen yards away. As opposed to not, I guess I'd

1859
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: prefer to say not, he's not gonna not look at

1860
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 1: the replay, but there's not gonna be an official challenge

1861
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 1: or an official replay review as currently constituted. Maybe the

1862
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 1: guys looks at the replay and say, whoa, we miss

1863
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: that boom. I'm changing. It's just an idea. I'm not

1864
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: in favor of it, but I could, I would listen

1865
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 1: to it. As opposed to expansion of replay, I would listen. Yeah,

1866
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: they can't expand replay anymore. It's too goobbed up already. Yes,

1867
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 1: all right, we got a break here coming up. We're

1868
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna talk with Phil Savage, a former general manager of

1869
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. He's now the general manager of the

1870
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: Airs on a hot shot in the Alliance of American Football.

1871
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: What goes in this setting up a team for a combine.

1872
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 1: We'll talk with Phil Savage about that when we come back.

1873
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: Come on back to John Murphy and Chris Brown. Here

1874
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: for Steve. It's One Bill's Live from One Bill's Driving.

1875
01:33:48,439 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio balol S Radio Networks Sports

1876
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Update from One Bills Drive. Sabers play the Flyers in

1877
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: Philadelphia tonight. They second of back to back games for Buffalo.

1878
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: They lost in Toronto last night five three. Jack Ichel

1879
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 1: with two goals in that game. Sam Reichert also scored

1880
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 1: in the game. Michael now with fifteen points and eleven

1881
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 1: career games against some Maple Leafs, eight on the road

1882
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: in six road games. And now the Sabers move on

1883
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 1: to play at Philadelphia seven o'clock face off. The game

1884
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 1: can be seen on NBC SN You can hear it

1885
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 1: on our flagship here in Buffalo, w GR five fifty

1886
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 1: Bills News. A little bit anyway, and this comes from Miami.

1887
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:38,639
Speaker 1: Not confirmed by the team, but Armando Saugaro of the

1888
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: Miami Herald reports that the Bills have hired a new

1889
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 1: director of football Research and Strategy. He is Dennis Locke,

1890
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: who's been the Dolphins director of analytics since two fifteen.

1891
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,799
Speaker 1: No word on that yet from the Buffalo Bills. Combine

1892
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 1: starts this week. We'll be there starting tomorrow with our coverage.

1893
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, Ohio State pass rusher, is healthy enough to

1894
01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 1: participate in all the drills this weekend. According to NFL

1895
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 1: Network posts have probably would have been healthy enough weeks ago.

1896
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 1: In fact, defensive linemen and linebackers schedule to be on

1897
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: the field for their workers workouts on Sunday. Boast have

1898
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 1: lost a big chunk of his senior year at Ohio

1899
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,759
Speaker 1: State because of a core muscle injury that required surgery,

1900
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: but he is ready to go for the combine this week.

1901
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens are in the market for another wide receiver,

1902
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:22,560
Speaker 1: and now that they have released veteran Michael Crabtree, Crabtree,

1903
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: thirty one years old, let go to free up his

1904
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: salary a base area of five million just one season

1905
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 1: in Baltimore for Michael Crabtree. Part of the Ravens desire

1906
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 1: to bolster their receiving cord last year, but he has

1907
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 1: let go. Today, Rams veteran offensive lineman Andrew Whitworth is

1908
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: putting off retiring at least for one more year. Thirty

1909
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: seven year old announced today he will return for the

1910
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season in La The Oakland Radiers have found

1911
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: a home for the upcoming season. It's their same old home.

1912
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 1: They reached agreement with the Oakland Coliseum Authority to play

1913
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: in the stadium for one more year twenty nineteen before

1914
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 1: they moved to Las Vegas. Two sides working out to

1915
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: tails and the UB Bowls ranked twenty first in the country.

1916
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 1: Homes Night against Akron, seven o'clock tipoff at Alumni Arena.

1917
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 1: And that's the update from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy

1918
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 1: and Chris Brown. Chris is in for Steve Tasker One

1919
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. We're headed to the Combine tomorrow to begin

1920
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 1: three days of coverage of the NFL Scouting Combine. Guy

1921
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 1: who's done more than his time, more than enough of

1922
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 1: his time at the NFL Scouting Combine on the subway

1923
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 1: Fresh State Countline with us. Happy to welcome to former

1924
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns general manager, former Senior Bowl executive director, and

1925
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 1: now the general manager of the Alliance of American Football's

1926
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 1: Arizona hot Shots. Phil Savage on the Lamb with this,

1927
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: philm This, John Murphy and Chris Brown up here in Buffalo.

1928
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us, Hey, John, hope you're doing well. Chris,

1929
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate it. Hey, we missed you at

1930
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, although they did a great job down there.

1931
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: But what did you do during Senior Bowl week? Were

1932
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: you all busy with the Alliance or were you there

1933
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 1: in Mobile at any point? Yeah? No, I was in

1934
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 1: San Antonio with our team and as a matter of fact,

1935
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 1: the entire Alliance, all eight teams were in training camp

1936
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 1: at that time, so we were about we were in

1937
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 1: the final week camp before the roster cut downs from

1938
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:06,839
Speaker 1: seventy five to fifty two in advance of that opening weekend.

1939
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, I did not. It's the first Senior Bowl

1940
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 1: that I haven't been in Mogil for the event maybe

1941
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 1: in thirty years, so it was a little different. Yeah,

1942
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: a little good. Hey, you've got Arizona I'll off to

1943
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: a good start, right, two wins in the first three games,

1944
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 1: and just give us a sense of how you think

1945
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: the league has gone. The first three weeks of the alliance.

1946
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: So far, you know, I would say so far, so good.

1947
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 1: I think it's made a positive impression. I think that

1948
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 1: fans have been interested in watching the games. I think

1949
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 1: one of the things that I like about it from

1950
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 1: a fan perspective is the fact that the game's only

1951
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: last two and a half hours, so you don't have

1952
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 1: to really commit an entire day or an entire evening

1953
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 1: to watching football, whether it's via television or at live

1954
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 1: at one of the stadium. I think the quality of

1955
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 1: play has been good. I think it will continue to

1956
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 1: get better because some of the quarterbacks that are playing

1957
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 1: haven't been the regular QB in several seasons. And you know,

1958
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 1: one of the advantages I think for US is at

1959
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 1: our quarterback, John Walford. He played at Wake Forest and

1960
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 1: started in the twenty seventeen season, so he's only been

1961
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 1: really removed one year from being the guy. That same

1962
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 1: theory holds true with the Birmingham quarterback Lewis Perez, and

1963
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 1: then of course Orlando. Birmingham and Orlando are boats still undefeated.

1964
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert, you know, was most recently on a practice

1965
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: squad with Carolina during this past season. So I think

1966
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: the guy that haven't had to knock as much rust off,

1967
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 1: especially at the quarterback position. Have given those teams a

1968
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 1: bit of a headstart maybe on the rest of the league.

1969
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 1: But I think that it's been well received. You know,

1970
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: the television production has been high quality. It looks good

1971
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 1: when people are walking through an airport or walking through

1972
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 1: their own own living room or house and glanced over

1973
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 1: and see football on the screen. And I think that

1974
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: the product on the field will continue to improve as

1975
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 1: everyone gets accustomed to the fast pace of the game

1976
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 1: and then also just some of the wrinkles some of

1977
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 1: the different rules that are in the alliances compared to

1978
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. How much, Phil, I mean, your previous role

1979
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 1: certainly had to put you in a very good position

1980
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 1: in terms of getting a handle on the personnel that

1981
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 1: would be available in putting these rosters together. I mean,

1982
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could have asked for a

1983
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 1: better on ramp than your previous role as director of

1984
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. I mean, how much did that facilitate

1985
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 1: you putting your roster together? Well, it definitely helped. I mean,

1986
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 1: you know, we have six players of our fifty two

1987
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 1: on the hot Shots that were former Senior Bowl alongs.

1988
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:51,600
Speaker 1: What the story that's not told is that obviously in

1989
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 1: running the Senior Bowl for those six years, there were

1990
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: a lot of players, you know, outside of those one

1991
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 1: hundred in ten or one hundred and twenty that we're

1992
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 1: invited every year that didn't make it to Mobile, that

1993
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: I at least had some familiarity with, and so that's

1994
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 1: definitely been helpful for sure. You know, we went through

1995
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 1: the whole summer trying to put all this together. The

1996
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 1: players were allocated via their college first and foremost, and

1997
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 1: then the next level of allocation was through their NFL team,

1998
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:28,759
Speaker 1: and so you know, we were married to thirteen different schools,

1999
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 1: headlined by Arizona State in u of A in northern Arizona,

2000
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 1: and then you know, sort of regionally beyond that. And

2001
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 1: then for the players that they came from University of

2002
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo or from Boston College or Michigan State, their allocation

2003
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 1: goes through either an NFL or a CFL team wherever

2004
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 1: they went to and then they get cut. And so

2005
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 1: we drew from four teams in the league, the Cardinals,

2006
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, the Bears, and the Ravens, and

2007
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 1: so ultimately our fifty two players twenty six of them

2008
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 1: came from our colleges, another ten or so came from

2009
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 1: our pro affiliation, so to speak, and then the rest

2010
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 1: got here through different methods. But I would say the

2011
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 1: background certainly gave us a bit more of an inventory

2012
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,679
Speaker 1: in terms of who is who and who we thought

2013
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: Mike could help us. And one more question for you

2014
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 1: about the Alliance and about Arizona, Phil, how how will

2015
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 1: the Alliance success be measured? Is it how many players

2016
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 1: get in the NFL or how the TV ratings look,

2017
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:29,560
Speaker 1: how much money is made? What do you think the

2018
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 1: measure of success of this new pro football league will be?

2019
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 1: You know, John, I think it's really all of the above,

2020
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 1: I really do. I think that the TV ratings and

2021
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 1: the advertising dollars will have a role in it. I

2022
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,600
Speaker 1: think so the number of graduates, if you want to

2023
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,599
Speaker 1: use that term, of players that go from this league

2024
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 1: into the NFL will will be a factor. And then

2025
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 1: I think that the third piece of it is, you know,

2026
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: is the league viable in terms of generating money? And

2027
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 1: of course with the applications and some of the gaming

2028
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:08,480
Speaker 1: apps that ultimately the Alliance will have as it pertains

2029
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 1: to gaming and all those sorts of things. I think

2030
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 1: that'll be a big piece of the puzzle as well. Oh,

2031
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 1: go ahead, I was Phil. I was just going to

2032
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 1: ask you only because you know, knowing your career in

2033
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 1: the NFL as a GM, especially with the Browns, I

2034
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 1: kind of ask you a little Bill's related question because

2035
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey's the new quarterbacks coach here, who obviously was

2036
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 1: there when you were, along with Derek Anderson for that matter,

2037
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 1: and we had the opportunity to talk to Derek and

2038
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 1: he was saying what a great resource he was as

2039
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 1: his backup QB there in the time that all three

2040
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 1: of you were there. What did you see in Ken

2041
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: at a very young age in terms of, you know,

2042
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 1: cerebral processing of offenses. Well, you know, it goes back

2043
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 1: to when Ken was a player at Miami. You know,

2044
01:42:56,280 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 1: that was one of the most talented college teams, so

2045
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 1: maybe in the history of the sport, those early two

2046
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 1: thousand Miami squads, and he was the facilitator. He was

2047
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 1: the guy who distributed the ball. He was sort of

2048
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 1: the brains behind the operation, so to speak, and you know,

2049
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 1: he really translated that into a third quarterback role. He

2050
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: in essence ended up being the communication link between our

2051
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 1: coaching staff and the quarterbacks that were ahead of him.

2052
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,679
Speaker 1: And you know, he was a tremendous resource for Derek,

2053
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 1: especially in the two thousand and seventh season when we

2054
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: won ten games and DA had a Pro Bowl level season.

2055
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 1: So it's not surprising at all that Ken, you know,

2056
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 1: ultimately found his way to the sideline as a coach.

2057
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by that at all because it was

2058
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 1: an aspect of the game that he really enjoyed, and

2059
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 1: I would suspect that he'll be a real positive for

2060
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. You know, we had Josh and the Senior

2061
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 1: Bowl last year, and obviously he had some highlights and

2062
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 1: some low lights as a rookie, which was expected because

2063
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 1: of his style of play. But I would think that

2064
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 1: Ken would really be able to help him in terms

2065
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 1: of really being able to coach him in the short

2066
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 1: to intermediate passing game, which is I think the area

2067
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 1: where Josh can grow the most. With Phil Savage, former

2068
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl executive director now with the Alliance Arizona Hotshots

2069
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 1: former Browns general manager AFL I've read we're two weeks

2070
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:25,719
Speaker 1: away from free agency in the league in the NFL,

2071
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 1: and I read a quote attributed to you. It kind

2072
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 1: of echoes what we have said on this show a

2073
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:33,959
Speaker 1: couple of times, how in free agency you always overpay.

2074
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: Your quote was something along the lines of teams wind

2075
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 1: up playing eight plus money for b plus players. Can

2076
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 1: you talk about that and why it is that teams

2077
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 1: will do that overpaid just to get a particular player

2078
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 1: on the free agent market. Yeah, it's very true nowadays,

2079
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 1: especially because look, most of the NFL teams do a

2080
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 1: really good job of retaining their own players. If they

2081
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 1: think a guy has the future, it's very difficult for

2082
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 1: them to let him get out the door. And so

2083
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,599
Speaker 1: with extensions and tags and all the mechanisms that are

2084
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 1: in place to protect your roster. Ultimately, when a player

2085
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 1: does get to market, it's because his own club doesn't

2086
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: believe that there's still a bit of a hole in

2087
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 1: his game. In other words, there's something missing that they're

2088
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 1: not necessarily willing to pay for. Or maybe it's a

2089
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 1: situation where you know it's time to move on. There's

2090
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 1: a lot of different reasons why guys get out there,

2091
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 1: but the bottom line reality is that free agency now,

2092
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 1: at least in my mind, doesn't have near the impact

2093
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 1: as it did even you know, ten years ago in

2094
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 1: the league, because not as many good players great players

2095
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: get out There's some good ones that get out there,

2096
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 1: but not great ones. And once they get out there,

2097
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 1: because teams are flushed with money to spend, they are

2098
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 1: willing to go, you know, the extra mile to make

2099
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,679
Speaker 1: sure they secure the services of an offense to lineman

2100
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: or a wide receiver or whatever the position is that

2101
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 1: they really feel like they need to have another guy

2102
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:11,719
Speaker 1: in in advance of the draft. So yeah, I've said

2103
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 1: that before that there's no question in my mind, you play,

2104
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:17,759
Speaker 1: you pay a plus money for b plus players typically

2105
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 1: a free agency, especially in this era of the NFL. Well,

2106
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 1: then in mind the Buffalo Bills, for example, eighty five

2107
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 1: ninety million dollars of money to spend in the next

2108
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, what should their approach be to free agency?

2109
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 1: And how would you approach it if you were a

2110
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 1: general manager? You know, I think and most of the

2111
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 1: gems would probably approach it this way. But I think

2112
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Speaker 1: you have to really forecast, Okay, who is who is

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Speaker 1: a reasonable target for us in free agency in conjunction

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Speaker 1: with the NFL draft. Who do we think we can

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Speaker 1: get in the draft, who do we forecast it's going

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Speaker 1: to be available, in Buffalo's case, at pick number nine,

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Speaker 1: at pick forty, it pick seventy four, those first three rounds,

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Speaker 1: those selections will be huge for buff Flow in terms

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Speaker 1: of how it combines with what they do in free agency. So,

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Speaker 1: in other words, after this combine, when Brandon and Sean

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01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 1: get a chance to go there and really assess the

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01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 1: field of what's available in the draft, now they can

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Speaker 1: marry that to their free agent plans. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if they feel like this is a lighter year, let's

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01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 1: just say offensive lineman, then maybe there'd be more willing

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Speaker 1: to go after free agent in that regard, knowing that

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Speaker 1: they may only pick one lineman in the draft, or

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01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 1: at least that's how they're forecasting it in the spring.

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Speaker 1: That's just one simple example. But I think you have

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01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 1: to work to two things in combination with each other

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01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 1: and fill as many holes and as many needs as

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01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 1: you possibly can through both avenues of putting your roster together.

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Speaker 1: And then Phil, just with respect to you know, what

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Speaker 1: you've had to assemble here in the AAF and having

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Speaker 1: done it in the NFL, what would you say are

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01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 1: the unique challenges that you know, this af opportunity for

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01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 1: you were, you know, and kind of putting your coaching

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01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 1: staff together, putting this roster together, knowing it's it's a

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01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 1: much different animal than probably what you experienced years back

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Speaker 1: with the NFL. Yeah, Chris, I'd say the most unique

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01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 1: aspect of it has been the fact that this is

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Speaker 1: the first time that any of us have ever done this.

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Speaker 1: I mean we literally start with a blank tabletop, a

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01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 1: blank sheet of paper, and so really up until the

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01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 1: first game, everything that we had done was a first

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01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: time venture. Whether it was meals, whether it was travel,

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01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 1: whether it was hotels, training camp, you name it. It

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Speaker 1: was the first time that the hot Shots or any

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Speaker 1: of the other seventeams had done it. And so that's

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01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 1: been the most unique part of it. It's been the

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01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 1: most it's been the most fun part of it, honestly,

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01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 1: is that you know, there's there's no history. We're making

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01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:01,440
Speaker 1: our own history, so to speak. We're set the guidelines

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01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 1: and the parameters for next year in subsequent seasons in

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01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 1: the alliance with what we're doing right now. So I've

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01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 1: had a blast doing it. There's no doubt in my

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01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 1: mind it's been the right move for me personally, and

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01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 1: hopefully our coaching staff and our players have enjoyed this

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01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 1: ride because it's it's unlike anything I've ever done before.

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01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 1: We I coined the phrase that's the AS stands for adaptable, adjustable, flexible,

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01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 1: and if you can't, if you're not able to operate

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01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 1: in that way, then this is not a league for you,

2163
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: and it's certainly not a league of entitlement. We've learned

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01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 1: a lot, I think as a staff and as a

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Speaker 1: as as players as well going through these first few weeks,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we're going to continue to try to play

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01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 1: better and have a good little Alliance team by the

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Speaker 1: time we get to the end of the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fun. Keeps you on your toes. If the last

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Speaker 1: question I am for your four years with the Browns

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01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:00,679
Speaker 1: was the combine of blast, What was the you would

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01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 1: get from the NFL scouting combine every year. Well, the

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01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is the combine provides all the

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Speaker 1: medical information on these players, which is probably the number

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01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: one factor, because a guy can his stock can really

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01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:16,599
Speaker 1: sink based on a medical grade, and so that's probably

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Speaker 1: the most important aspect of it. The other thing is

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Speaker 1: that you get to throw the net out there and

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Speaker 1: see the vast majority of the guys ron and jump

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01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 1: and you get a little bit of a feel of

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01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 1: what they're going to bring to the table. But it's

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01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 1: all just the small piece of the puzzle when you

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01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:35,719
Speaker 1: get right down to it. Relative to the video you've studied,

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Speaker 1: the scouts that have been out during the fall, and

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01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 1: then all the interviews and the work that you'll do

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01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 1: between the now that's now in the draft. I would say, honestly,

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01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: it's a very it's a very difficult week for gms

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01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 1: because if you're going to try to get all of

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01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 1: the events related to the combine from the way ends

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01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:01,760
Speaker 1: to the workouts, then you also have the agent meetings

2191
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 1: between the sessions, also trying to keep your head coach

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01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 1: and assistant coaches on the same page in terms of

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01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 1: what their duties are. It's a very long week for

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01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 1: a gym. Not a lot of sleep involved when you're

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01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, and that that didn't even speak of, you know,

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01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 1: when you're gonna eat, when you're gonna work out, all

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01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 1: those things kind of go go to the wayside when

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Speaker 1: you're at Indianapolis. Does not sound like a blast. So

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Speaker 1: that you were it's not. Honestly, it was. Of all

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Speaker 1: the events, it was probably the least favorite one. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I enjoy all of them, but it was the least

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Speaker 1: favorite because it was a real It was a grind

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01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:43,799
Speaker 1: from from morning until late into the night, and again

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01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,520
Speaker 1: you're trying to get prepared for free agency and conjunction

2205
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:51,679
Speaker 1: with again trying to encircle your arms around three hundred

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01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 1: some odd players. It feel good, luck with Arizona and

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01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 1: the Alliance. Thank you for spending a few minutes with

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Speaker 1: us here today. We appreciate it, guys, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: And I we keep an eye on Darryl Williams down

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Speaker 1: at Carolina, maybe Devin Fonches for perhaps even Brandon Graham

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01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 1: for Buffalo. Those are all names that the guys would

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01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 1: be familiar with. And before you four cover that big money,

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01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 1: you want to make sure you have a little bit

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01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: of a background on and know exactly what you're going

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01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 1: to get, not only on the field, but off the

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Speaker 1: field as well. You're saying the Bills have a sensitivity

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Speaker 1: to signing Carolina product. Is that it? I think so

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Thanks Bill, good talking with you all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: be good. Thank you. Phil Savage, general manager of the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta American Football's Arizona hot Shots, Farmer Browns general manager.

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01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:37,800
Speaker 1: He is a really good guy. I didn't miss him

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Speaker 1: at the at the Senior Bowl, and they did a

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01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 1: great job obviously, but he is unique. Phil joined us

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Speaker 1: on the Subway fresh Take hutline presented by the Subway

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01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,439
Speaker 1: Restaurants probably be locally owned and operating. I liked his

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01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:50,720
Speaker 1: answer on Ken Dorsey too. Yeah, I did too. That

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Speaker 1: was encouraging to hear. I liked his answer on free

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01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 1: agency too. I really did about how you overspend and

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01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 1: maybe you want to avoid that. And there's no you

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01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 1: overspend now because everybody, as he pointed out, is so

2231
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:04,799
Speaker 1: flushed with cash. It's like, of course we need display.

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01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 1: We're gonna it doesn't matter when you got to spend

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01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:10,639
Speaker 1: at least. Yeah, that's the rule. Yeah, thanks to Phil Savage.

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01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 1: That was good. All Right, we come back. We're going

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01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 1: to talk about a special event coming to a new

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01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 1: air of field and in uh well the end of

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01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 1: this week. As a matter of fact, it's them. It's

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Speaker 1: it's a third annual Snow Bowl this weekend at the

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Speaker 1: stadium here in Orchard Park. We're gonna talk with Erica Rapolds,

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Speaker 1: Special Olympics New York Director of Development. When we return,

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01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 1: come on back for that. John Murphy, Chris Brown, One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive

2243
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show.

2244
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Chris Brown is here. Steve Cansker with us tomorrow.

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01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 1: We're live from the scouting Combine in Indianapolis tomorrow this

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Speaker 1: weekend Saturday, right here at the New air Field. It's

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01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:01,759
Speaker 1: the third annual Buffalo Snow Bowl. It's a flag football

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01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 1: tournament put on by Special Olympics New York. And here

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01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: to talk about it, We've got Erica Rabel's Special Olympics

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Speaker 1: New York Director of Development and a special Olympian, Nick Sumuda.

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Speaker 1: Thank you both for coming. We appreciate it. Yeah, thank

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01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 1: you for having me. We're really exciting. You've had this

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01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 1: two prior years in the stadium. Yep, this time of year.

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01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 1: Have you seen the forecast? Maybe there's a better name

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Speaker 1: for it. I'm open all years, you know, so if

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Speaker 1: you have another suggestion, definitely, But there is something special

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01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 1: about that plays in the snow in the cold, right

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01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:35,560
Speaker 1: and I'm sure your participants. You're you're a flag football

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01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 1: players are going to get a kick out of playing there,

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Speaker 1: especially if there's a little snow. Gram Absolutely, and you

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01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:42,160
Speaker 1: know it, it's Buffalo, Like what more of a true

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01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo event is it? Playing on new air fields in March,

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Speaker 1: having its snow and playing for special Olympic athletes? So

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01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 1: I mean they're playing for somebody, they're playing for athletes

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01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 1: like neck, they're playing for the three thousand athletes in

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Speaker 1: Western New York and the sixty eight thousand athletes that

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01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 1: we have statewide. So it's a six on six flag

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01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 1: football tournam and you're already booked with teams. How many

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01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 1: teams do you have? We have forty eight teams, so

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Speaker 1: we've sold out this year. So we're hoping next year

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01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 1: to double that and expand the tournament to a two

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01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 1: day tournament. Wow, and tell us about the different leagues

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01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 1: the classifications you have. Yeah, so we have first responders

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01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:15,360
Speaker 1: and I have to give a quick shout out to

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Speaker 1: my Border Patrol team who's raised six thousand dollars already.

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01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, so it first responders, co ed, pro, and amateur.

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Speaker 1: And so with that high school league that there's like

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01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 1: an age, there is an age, there is an age cutoff.

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01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 1: So um. Last year we toyed around with the high

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01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 1: school division and we're hoping to bring it back again

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01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 1: next year. But we added another element this year, and

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01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 1: we have our special Olympic athletes on some of our teams. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and Nick, you are a special Olympic athlete although you

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01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 1: never played in this flag football tournament. No, what's holding

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01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 1: you back? Listen? Could you play everything else? Tell us

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01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 1: what the special Olympic sports that you participated in already

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01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 1: and you have over the years, basketball, softball, bowling, flat hockey.

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Speaker 1: Flag football doesn't do it for you? Well, the snow,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. You want to stay out of the flag

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01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 1: and get peg in the face if you get If

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01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 1: you have the ball and you get nailed, you don't

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01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:10,960
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen to you. You thought this through,

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01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 1: that's good, Nick, thought through. Who are the typical players?

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01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 1: And you've got these different classifications and forty eight teams

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01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 1: you're up to this year? You said, yeah, started with nineteen.

2296
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 1: Where did the growth come from? How did you get

2297
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 1: so many more people? Honestly from the support from Googla

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01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: Sports Entertainment so they did a little tweet and Facebook

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01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 1: post for us, and we were instantly sold out. So

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01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 1: I have to, you know, definitely give kudos to them.

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01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 1: But we actually took this event from New Jersey and

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01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:38,640
Speaker 1: they do it with the Giants. So I mean us

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01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 1: being Buffalo fans and in New York, we want nothing

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01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 1: more than to crush other New York teams, right, and fans,

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01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean even if you don't have people that you

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01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 1: know playing on a team, they can come down and

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01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 1: watch this weekend, right, absolutely, Yeah, So admission is free,

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01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 1: come on down. Games start at nine o'clock in the morning,

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01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 1: goal till six o'clock at night. It's gonna be fun,

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01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be competitive, and you're gonna want to play.

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01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, being down on that field, I

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01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 1: know you guys do it all the time, but being

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01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 1: down on that field throwing a pass and kept scoring

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01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 1: that touchdown as an ultimate experience, it's a once in

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Speaker 1: a lifetime experience. So there's something about that place. When

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Speaker 1: fans get their bills. Fans and I've seen other flag

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01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 1: football tournaments in there, everybody's competitive level gets raised up

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01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 1: a not your two right when they're you look up

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Speaker 1: and there comes just a little more efficient. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: sea of blue seats on both sides, and the scoreboard,

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Speaker 1: the scoreboard will be on I'm sure right, yeah, and

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01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 1: every team will be thanked and so every team is

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01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 1: going to be up on the scoreboard so they can

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01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 1: get a picture of that. But what it's true competition again,

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Speaker 1: and you know, so special Olympics is true competition. This

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01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be true competition. We have officials from Western

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01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,080
Speaker 1: New York, certified officials that are coming out and they're

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01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:44,920
Speaker 1: going to be down on the field with these guys

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01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 1: making sure guys, young girls, making sure that it's you know,

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01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 1: a legitimate tournament for them, and it's a fun experience

2331
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 1: and you know, penalty flags are thrown and people are

2332
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 1: you know, having a good time making sure they're in line.

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01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 1: So if people might want to come out and watch

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01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 1: this weekend, what what's like the website they could go

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01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 1: do maybe for more of the information and get the

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Speaker 1: hours and the breaks and all that stuff. It's Buffalo

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01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 1: Snowball dot org. And then we're gonna have two different

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01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 1: sessions for the day, so our amateur and our first

2339
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 1: responders are gonna be playing from nine o'clock until one,

2340
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 1: and then our pro and our co ed are going

2341
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,320
Speaker 1: to be playing from about two fifteen until six o'clock

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01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 1: at night, so it's gonna be competition all over, and

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01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 1: four games are going to be going on at once.

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01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:28,960
Speaker 1: Classified one group is pro. Who are those who are

2345
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 1: the pro? Yeah? Please tell me there's not a Buffalo

2346
01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 1: Bills players out there. We're actually extremely fortunate that Lorenzo

2347
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 1: Alexander's gonna be coming out, so he's not gonna be playing,

2348
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 1: but he might be throwing some tips on the sideline

2349
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:44,280
Speaker 1: for all that we know. But no, it's just the

2350
01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 1: most competitive league that we have is our pro division,

2351
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 1: and we wanted to keep it, you know, football oriented,

2352
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 1: so um, that's our top division. It's gonna be the

2353
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:55,880
Speaker 1: most competitive. And these guys are coming from Florida, it's

2354
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,720
Speaker 1: from New York City, from the hardcore guys. These are

2355
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:01,160
Speaker 1: the hard core guys for sure. And the amateur division

2356
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 1: is the fun league, right, it's the fun league. Yeah.

2357
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean there's definitely some competition in there, but we

2358
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:08,720
Speaker 1: divisioned it out so it should be very fair and

2359
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:10,880
Speaker 1: all the scores should be you know, around the same.

2360
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 1: So and there's a co ed League as well co ED,

2361
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 1: So there's two females that need to be on the

2362
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 1: field at all playing times. Females can play in any

2363
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:20,720
Speaker 1: other division, but the co Ed you must have two

2364
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:22,720
Speaker 1: females on at all. So are you guys going So

2365
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 1: you guys are chopping up that field with four games going,

2366
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 1: so you're going across the fields or no, we're actually

2367
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 1: going into the end zones. We're playing away from each

2368
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:32,880
Speaker 1: other for safety reasons, but also every single team is

2369
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:34,800
Speaker 1: going to score in that end zone. Okay, do you

2370
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:36,960
Speaker 1: know people playing neck? You have people you'll be rooting

2371
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 1: for this week, not that I know of. You'll be here,

2372
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:42,080
Speaker 1: I would think to watch some of it. Yeah, I'll

2373
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 1: be here. What will you be looking for and see

2374
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:46,520
Speaker 1: if there's any potential Bills draft picks in the group

2375
01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 1: or see who don't see if it's just making sure

2376
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:55,080
Speaker 1: that it's being done clean not dirty. There you go, Eric,

2377
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 1: We have an honorary official right there. Eyes on the

2378
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 1: Pro League there, because those guys are the serious ones.

2379
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:03,960
Speaker 1: Where does the money that you raised for Special Olympics

2380
02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:05,680
Speaker 1: New York go? How do you use? It? Goes to

2381
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 1: our athletes? So Special Olympics New York is the largest

2382
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:12,280
Speaker 1: amateur sports organization in the world. So Special Olympics it's

2383
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:15,839
Speaker 1: the largest amateur sports organization in the world. Special Olympics

2384
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:18,600
Speaker 1: New York is the largest program in North America, where

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02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:22,520
Speaker 1: the sixth largest in the entire world. So we're extremely

2386
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 1: proud of that. So we have over sixty eight thousand

2387
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 1: Special Olympic athletes that compete each year. Cost about five

2388
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 1: hundred dollars to sponsor one of our athletes. And what

2389
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 1: does that cover? Transportation, their uniforms, and they go to

2390
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:38,080
Speaker 1: seet games, the food, the lodging, it covers everything. I mean,

2391
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:40,080
Speaker 1: you guys are sports guys. You know what it's like

2392
02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:43,600
Speaker 1: to be in that atmosphere and in playing. So Special

2393
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:47,560
Speaker 1: Olympics gives people with intellectual disabilities that opportunity and you'll

2394
02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 1: probably it won't just be Nick, right though, there will

2395
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:52,520
Speaker 1: be other Special Olympians on hand. Absolutely, So we're gonna

2396
02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 1: actually have a little athlete corner and they're gonna be

2397
02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:56,919
Speaker 1: signing autographs, so you guys can come and meet athletes

2398
02:00:56,960 --> 02:00:59,000
Speaker 1: like Nick. And then some of our teams are actually

2399
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:00,920
Speaker 1: going to have at thirteenth player and they're it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a special Olympic athlete. And then in terms of

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02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 1: money raised, was this like a new high this year

2402
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:08,640
Speaker 1: or right there? Yeah? So last year we raised about

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02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:11,360
Speaker 1: forty five thousand dollars. Right now we're about sixty five

2404
02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:13,840
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. So and we still have a couple of days.

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02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:15,520
Speaker 1: And I know that there's some teams out there they're

2406
02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:18,160
Speaker 1: gunning for first place because they actually they're gonna get

2407
02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 1: seasoned or preseason tickets to be down on the field,

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02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:22,400
Speaker 1: so they're going to get they raise more if they

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02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:24,840
Speaker 1: raise the most money. Yeah, okay, top team. So Erica,

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Speaker 1: what's the best way for someone listening or tuning in

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02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:30,080
Speaker 1: today on the television to participate? You said there's no

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02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:33,240
Speaker 1: more room for players, right, but what can someone else do? Yeah,

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02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,760
Speaker 1: I mean come out and volunteer. I always need volunteers.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to go to that website, Buffalo

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02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:40,400
Speaker 1: Snowball dot org, you can find my contact information. We

2416
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 1: can get you set up with a volunteer opportunity. And

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02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:45,320
Speaker 1: then I guarantee you're gonna come out and you're gonna

2418
02:01:45,320 --> 02:01:46,880
Speaker 1: see this event. You're gonna want to play next year

2419
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:50,240
Speaker 1: because that's what I mean. I have twenty five returning

2420
02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:53,520
Speaker 1: teams from last year. Are you hoping for snow? Yes,

2421
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,800
Speaker 1: she's not playing in it, so yeah, it's probably more

2422
02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:00,240
Speaker 1: entertaining for everybody that's watch to better you know, bull

2423
02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:03,320
Speaker 1: slip slide all over the place. Well, thankfully we have

2424
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 1: Excelsior Orthopedics that's going to be there on the sideline.

2425
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:08,840
Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's a great event. Like I said,

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02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:10,680
Speaker 1: the snow does make it because it is the Buffalo

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02:02:10,720 --> 02:02:13,720
Speaker 1: Snow Bowl. Yeah, but you know we also want some

2428
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:15,840
Speaker 1: sunshine in there too, a little bit. Well you're there

2429
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 1: for long enough, you might get all of it, right.

2430
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 1: I got to live up to the name absolutely. Erica,

2431
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:22,560
Speaker 1: thanks for this, Nick, Thank you, thanks for coming by.

2432
02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:25,880
Speaker 1: Good luck with us this weekend, right Saturday, Saturday, This Saturday,

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02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:28,920
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Snowbowl to benefit the Special Olympics, New York.

2434
02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:31,080
Speaker 1: It is eight thirty in the morning till seven. As

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02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:34,120
Speaker 1: you heard Erica say, you can volunteer. You can also

2436
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:36,560
Speaker 1: come and be a spectator for free six on six

2437
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 1: flank football. And what's the website again, Erica, Buffalo Snowbowl

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Speaker 1: dot org. Buffalo Snowbowl dot org. Thank you very much,

2439
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:43,280
Speaker 1: both of you. We appreciate it. Thank you, Chris, and

2440
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:45,200
Speaker 1: I coming back with more One Bill's Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio kind Now for

2442
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Speaker 1: what have we learned from today's show? Presented by Advanced

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Speaker 1: Home Theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. Well, what have

2446
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Speaker 1: we learned? We had a couple of good guests today.

2447
02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:19,320
Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman, the quarterback expert, The guy wrote the book

2448
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:22,040
Speaker 1: on the making of quarterbacks in today's NFL. He is

2449
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:25,160
Speaker 1: also a sideline reporter for Fox Sports NFL coverage. We

2450
02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:28,880
Speaker 1: asked Bruce Feldman his view of Josh Allen's rookie season

2451
02:03:28,920 --> 02:03:33,240
Speaker 1: and the development he saw. You know, I was impressed

2452
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 1: by how he handled things, and we talked to a

2453
02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:38,360
Speaker 1: lot of people in the building about him and it

2454
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:42,200
Speaker 1: was all positive. You know, he's still raw. I think

2455
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff. One week when we had him,

2456
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:47,760
Speaker 1: he was coming off a couple of games where his athleticism,

2457
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:51,960
Speaker 1: which nobody questions at the draft process, was on display

2458
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:54,080
Speaker 1: and he ran out even probably better than people, as

2459
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:56,000
Speaker 1: good as people thought of an athlete he was. I

2460
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:58,600
Speaker 1: think even you know it took it to another level

2461
02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 1: there with his competitiveness, and those are all those are

2462
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:04,960
Speaker 1: all big pluses. I think the challenge for him and

2463
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:10,600
Speaker 1: for that staff is going to be again the accuracy

2464
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 1: and the consistency for him to keep developing fair enough.

2465
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:17,440
Speaker 1: I think we all can agree on that. Also today

2466
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Speaker 1: on the show, Bill Savage just joined us earlier this hour.

2467
02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:22,680
Speaker 1: The former Browns general manager now runs one of the

2468
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:25,840
Speaker 1: Alliance of American Football teams, Arizona hot Shots. We asked

2469
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Speaker 1: him what a general manager's approaches to the NFL scouting Combine.

2470
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:33,240
Speaker 1: Here's what he said, Well, the fact of the matter

2471
02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:37,320
Speaker 1: is the combine provides all the medical information on these players,

2472
02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:39,920
Speaker 1: which is probably the number one factor, because a guy

2473
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:43,240
Speaker 1: can his stock can really sink based on a medical grade,

2474
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:46,400
Speaker 1: and so that's probably the most important aspect of it.

2475
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:49,000
Speaker 1: The other thing is that you get to throw the

2476
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:52,080
Speaker 1: net out there and see the vast majority of the

2477
02:04:52,120 --> 02:04:54,480
Speaker 1: guys ron and jump and you get a little bit

2478
02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:56,600
Speaker 1: of a feel of what they're going to bring to

2479
02:04:56,640 --> 02:05:00,200
Speaker 1: the table. Bill Savage on the combine. Hey, if you

2480
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:02,880
Speaker 1: have not joined a Shot, you can jump in on

2481
02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 1: today's Twitter question or topic of the day. If you

2482
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,680
Speaker 1: were the Bills general manager, give us two moves you

2483
02:05:08,680 --> 02:05:10,760
Speaker 1: would make this off season. We got time for a

2484
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:13,120
Speaker 1: phone call or two eight h three oh five fifty

2485
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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty and you

2486
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:21,760
Speaker 1: can tweet it. In response to from the tweet sheet

2487
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 1: from Doug Briggs, the two moves you would make this offseason,

2488
02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:27,400
Speaker 1: he said, I would resign Jordan Phillips. That was one

2489
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:29,640
Speaker 1: of my moves because we need a three technique. Then

2490
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:32,120
Speaker 1: I would shop around a fourth round pick or a

2491
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:35,560
Speaker 1: fifth round pick for a decent starting caliber receiver. We've

2492
02:05:35,560 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 1: seen that done in the pass I'd like to be

2493
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:41,160
Speaker 1: the team that does it now, So he would trade

2494
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:43,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a starting caliber receiver for a fourth

2495
02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:45,840
Speaker 1: or a fifth rounder. No, I don't think so, right,

2496
02:05:46,040 --> 02:05:48,240
Speaker 1: You need more than that, not like a top flight one.

2497
02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:50,960
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna get a starter even I don't know.

2498
02:05:52,240 --> 02:05:55,240
Speaker 1: Depends depends on what they're trying to get rid of.

2499
02:05:55,320 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 1: If you have a team that's motivated to move a

2500
02:05:57,160 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 1: big salary off their roster, and you might be able

2501
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:01,440
Speaker 1: to get it for a low or price. Knowing what

2502
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:05,760
Speaker 1: you're taking on, but that doesn't happen terribly often in

2503
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:08,960
Speaker 1: the league, so I don't know how realistic it is.

2504
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:13,880
Speaker 1: We know that there, we know the Bengals are shopping

2505
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:17,520
Speaker 1: John Ross right now. So this was Ian Rappaport and

2506
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 1: he said, you know, wide receiver John Ross, they're shopping

2507
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,640
Speaker 1: the former first rounder. Fresh start would be welcomed by

2508
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:29,840
Speaker 1: both parties. It sounds like I'm not really interested from

2509
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:32,680
Speaker 1: a Bill's perspective, only because they already have a field

2510
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 1: stretcher and Robert Foster. You need a guy that can

2511
02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:38,240
Speaker 1: do everything in the receiving game, and John Ross does

2512
02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:40,320
Speaker 1: not fit that. Bill. He's a one trick pony as

2513
02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:42,800
Speaker 1: I see it. He's a deep threat. You already have

2514
02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:46,320
Speaker 1: that in Foster, who's probably a better player overall in

2515
02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 1: terms of potential, ceiling and ability to do more than

2516
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:52,839
Speaker 1: just one thing. And John Ross already has an injury

2517
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 1: history and has a very slight build, and I don't

2518
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:57,640
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna hold up for sixteen games, but

2519
02:06:57,800 --> 02:07:00,120
Speaker 1: I think there will be people that will be shop

2520
02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:02,640
Speaker 1: either because they don't fit the new regime. Let's not

2521
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:06,040
Speaker 1: forget what do we have eight coaching changes this offseason.

2522
02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:08,480
Speaker 1: That's a quarter of the league, and we saw it

2523
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:12,480
Speaker 1: here firsthand, new coaching regime in a lot of players

2524
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:15,440
Speaker 1: from the previous regime on the way out, So who

2525
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:18,400
Speaker 1: knows what opportunity could crop up. So I'm not ruling

2526
02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:23,160
Speaker 1: out what our tweeter suggested. I suppose it could happen,

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02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:27,120
Speaker 1: especially with the coaching turnover we have witnessed. My favorite

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02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:30,600
Speaker 1: receiving candidate for the Bill's roster free agent not John Ross,

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02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:34,440
Speaker 1: John Brown. Yeah, I know you like him. Now there's

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02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:36,280
Speaker 1: a guy that can do more than John Ron. Yes

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02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:39,640
Speaker 1: he's and Brown is fast enough, certainly fast enough, but

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02:07:39,640 --> 02:07:41,440
Speaker 1: he's got a lot more to offer. What can Brown

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02:07:41,480 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 1: do for you? I really it's not. I don't know

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02:07:45,080 --> 02:07:46,760
Speaker 1: how much money he would even require to make a

2535
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:49,520
Speaker 1: move after making a move last year for considerable money,

2536
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Decent amount of money you

2537
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:56,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to Yeah, pay a king's ransom? Yeah, no way.

2538
02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:59,640
Speaker 1: And could he answer their needs? I would think so,

2539
02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:04,280
Speaker 1: I want to say yes. It's hard to know where

2540
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:07,960
Speaker 1: they would think he would fit in the scheme because

2541
02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:10,200
Speaker 1: I just don't see him as a number one. Don't

2542
02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:12,160
Speaker 1: him as a number one? You know? I think it'd

2543
02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:15,480
Speaker 1: be a good number two. But I think that's been

2544
02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:18,760
Speaker 1: the Achilles heel of the Bills receiving cords the last

2545
02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:22,280
Speaker 1: several years. You know, they don't have the Eric Moles.

2546
02:08:22,360 --> 02:08:24,720
Speaker 1: They don't have the true one, you know what I mean,

2547
02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:27,880
Speaker 1: And so instead you have a bunch of twos and threes,

2548
02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:31,160
Speaker 1: which has a role on the roster to play, but

2549
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:35,320
Speaker 1: they can't carry the load when it's absolutely necessary in

2550
02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:37,720
Speaker 1: crunch time of a game, on a key third down,

2551
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:39,520
Speaker 1: when you're down on the scoreboard and you got to

2552
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:42,160
Speaker 1: get down the field quickly. You know, those kinds of things.

2553
02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:44,640
Speaker 1: You need a true number one guy. And I like

2554
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:47,240
Speaker 1: Brown as a player, I just don't know if he's

2555
02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:49,480
Speaker 1: number one. And that's what you're trying to fill here

2556
02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:53,160
Speaker 1: right now. And whether or not he answers this question

2557
02:08:53,240 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 1: is debatable. But aren't you really trying to find a

2558
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:56,720
Speaker 1: guy who's not a number one now but you see

2559
02:08:56,840 --> 02:08:59,320
Speaker 1: growing and developing into a number one. I'm fine where

2560
02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:01,840
Speaker 1: the value is, yes, and I'm fine with that, but

2561
02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:03,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to go find that in the draft

2562
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:09,560
Speaker 1: because now you're depending Now you're depending on growth, development

2563
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:14,400
Speaker 1: and developing a quick understanding for the NFL game. And

2564
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:17,000
Speaker 1: at the receiver position. More often than not, that does

2565
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:20,080
Speaker 1: not happen even with first round picks. And you need

2566
02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:22,200
Speaker 1: look no further than the guy the Bengals are shopping

2567
02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:24,840
Speaker 1: and John Ross, who's two years removed from being the

2568
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:26,880
Speaker 1: ninth pick in the draft. Yeah, they got blown away

2569
02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:30,200
Speaker 1: by his forty times. Yeah, and they're the new Raiders.

2570
02:09:30,240 --> 02:09:32,040
Speaker 1: What do you want me to tell you? One more

2571
02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:33,720
Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet? If you were the Bills, GM

2572
02:09:33,720 --> 02:09:36,480
Speaker 1: two moves you'd make. Brian Cook tweets this in I

2573
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:40,000
Speaker 1: would look into a possible trade, dealing McCoy for alignment.

2574
02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:42,960
Speaker 1: Running back by committee is a great value approach to

2575
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 1: roster construction, with running backs being cheap and investing in

2576
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:48,840
Speaker 1: oline helps both the rushing and the passing games. But

2577
02:09:48,920 --> 02:09:50,960
Speaker 1: don't bake the move if you can't get some value.

2578
02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't think they're gonna trade

2579
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:56,120
Speaker 1: away Lashawn McCoy, Chris, I really don't. I think there's

2580
02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:58,640
Speaker 1: too much gas left in the tank with McCoy in

2581
02:09:58,720 --> 02:10:03,640
Speaker 1: terms of what he can offer this. I don't see

2582
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:07,720
Speaker 1: them using him as currency to improve the offensive line.

2583
02:10:07,720 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 1: I just I don't see it. I think they want

2584
02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:12,560
Speaker 1: to improve the offensive line, and I think they want

2585
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 1: a veteran back behind a young quarterback and Josh Allen

2586
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:17,120
Speaker 1: because I think they know if they can get the

2587
02:10:17,160 --> 02:10:20,600
Speaker 1: line fixed, they will have a productive running game based

2588
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:23,920
Speaker 1: on what they know Lashawn McCoy is. And that helps

2589
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:27,960
Speaker 1: Josh Allen get better because now you know you have

2590
02:10:28,040 --> 02:10:31,440
Speaker 1: to play this Bill's offense more honest, because they have

2591
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:33,840
Speaker 1: a productive running game now, and now you've got to

2592
02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:36,520
Speaker 1: respect running past. A couple of minutes left for NFL

2593
02:10:36,560 --> 02:10:39,040
Speaker 1: tur or false. It's brought to you by Yancey's Fancy

2594
02:10:39,120 --> 02:10:41,960
Speaker 1: New York's artists and cheese. This came about as a

2595
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:44,839
Speaker 1: result of a poll taken by the NFL on Fox,

2596
02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:48,520
Speaker 1: and apparently fans voted this way. Tour or false. The

2597
02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:51,840
Speaker 1: Browns first win this past year since twenty sixteen was

2598
02:10:51,880 --> 02:10:55,160
Speaker 1: the NFL's best moment in twenty eighteen. Come on, please

2599
02:10:55,360 --> 02:11:00,640
Speaker 1: come on, absolutely false, absolutely on with this. What was

2600
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:03,560
Speaker 1: the voting percentages? It does not say, oh my god,

2601
02:11:03,760 --> 02:11:06,800
Speaker 1: no way. It was a nice little story. Get a grip,

2602
02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:09,880
Speaker 1: That was all it was, all right, NFL two or false.

2603
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:13,400
Speaker 1: The NFL should adopt the Alliance of American Football's onside

2604
02:11:13,400 --> 02:11:15,760
Speaker 1: conversion play they set up fourth in twelve right at

2605
02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 1: your own thirty thirty five. I think it is the

2606
02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:21,640
Speaker 1: first one was made. Uh, and it's it's in lieu

2607
02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:24,200
Speaker 1: of an onside kick because they don't have kickoffs in

2608
02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:28,280
Speaker 1: the Alliance. UM, I don't know. I don't mind that, Chris.

2609
02:11:28,920 --> 02:11:31,200
Speaker 1: Fourth and twelve is difficult enough. I guess they set

2610
02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:33,360
Speaker 1: it up at the twenty five yard line so that

2611
02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:35,080
Speaker 1: you're forced to make them play a big play in

2612
02:11:35,160 --> 02:11:38,160
Speaker 1: order to keep the ball. I would, I would, I can.

2613
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:41,480
Speaker 1: I would entertain a preseason experiment with that rule. I

2614
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:44,320
Speaker 1: love your idea. I would do that. Yes, I would

2615
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:47,840
Speaker 1: do the preseason kicks you're getting in preseason football. Well,

2616
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:50,600
Speaker 1: but I think there will be there would be impetus

2617
02:11:50,640 --> 02:11:53,440
Speaker 1: for coaches to see what it what it produces, So

2618
02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:57,200
Speaker 1: I think there would be times where they would try it. Um.

2619
02:11:57,240 --> 02:11:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, especially if you got a blowout preseason game

2620
02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:02,040
Speaker 1: that nobody gives two hoots and holler amount. I mean,

2621
02:12:02,480 --> 02:12:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, just get say, hey, we're gonna run this now.

2622
02:12:05,200 --> 02:12:08,200
Speaker 1: You know we're trying to get the ball back, so

2623
02:12:08,280 --> 02:12:09,960
Speaker 1: let's just run a fourth and twelve. Here's a play

2624
02:12:09,960 --> 02:12:12,360
Speaker 1: I've got for you. Guys are we saying true or false.

2625
02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna since we're gonna experiment, let's say true. I'm

2626
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:19,360
Speaker 1: gonna say true as well. Finally, and quickly, Kirk Cousins

2627
02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:21,560
Speaker 1: is the right quarterback for the Vikings an article in

2628
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:26,720
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk. There's no evidence of that yet, so

2629
02:12:26,760 --> 02:12:28,840
Speaker 1: I'll see false. I don't think there's any evidence that

2630
02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:32,560
Speaker 1: he's the right guy for them, is there. I think

2631
02:12:32,600 --> 02:12:37,080
Speaker 1: he's the best option for them, So I will say true.

2632
02:12:38,200 --> 02:12:40,840
Speaker 1: And I'm probably interpreting it differently than maybe you are,

2633
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:43,160
Speaker 1: but I thought that guy played his rear end off

2634
02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:46,320
Speaker 1: last year on an offense that really led him down

2635
02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:50,320
Speaker 1: in several ways, most notably pass protection. Their pass protection

2636
02:12:50,480 --> 02:12:54,720
Speaker 1: was poor, poor last year, and he did not complain once.

2637
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:58,000
Speaker 1: You know, he just stood in there, took shots, tried

2638
02:12:58,040 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 1: to make plays. And the defense underachieved for them last year.

2639
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:04,200
Speaker 1: They went from and yes they were still a top

2640
02:13:04,240 --> 02:13:07,680
Speaker 1: five defense, but they weren't as dominant. They struggled to

2641
02:13:07,720 --> 02:13:10,720
Speaker 1: get takeaways. And so I think the opportunities for Kirk

2642
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:13,800
Speaker 1: Cousins in that offense, which was also hamstrung by pass protection,

2643
02:13:14,240 --> 02:13:16,040
Speaker 1: hurt him. So I'm gonna give him the benefit of

2644
02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:17,840
Speaker 1: the doubt. And say yes, he is their guy. There

2645
02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:20,040
Speaker 1: you go, NFL True and False, brought to you by

2646
02:13:20,160 --> 02:13:22,720
Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy New York's Artisan Cheese. It's gonna wrap it

2647
02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:25,120
Speaker 1: up for us. Chris, we'll talk soon, like in about

2648
02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:26,800
Speaker 1: ten minutes. I'll see in the cover in the car

2649
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:29,480
Speaker 1: headed to Indy for the Combine. We'll be there starting tomorrow.

2650
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:32,440
Speaker 1: Steve will be back tomorrow. Our production assistants George Blast,

2651
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:36,720
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2652
02:13:36,760 --> 02:13:39,400
Speaker 1: Our producer Jay Harris, see you tomorrow from Indie with

2653
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:43,080
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