WEBVTT - The Clinic

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<v Speaker 1>mention that this story could be disturbing for some of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners. Here's our reporting.

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<v Speaker 2>In a health clinic in Chicago, Marta Flores is receiving.

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<v Speaker 3>Some news chom.

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<v Speaker 2>Her doctor walks into the exam room and she barely

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<v Speaker 2>closes the door before she gets right to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Squila and toss see.

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<v Speaker 2>Martha has clearly taken aback. The doctor tells her her

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<v Speaker 2>high blood sugar means something else.

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<v Speaker 4>And tossnostico de diabetiss see per controla.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a new diagnosis from Martha, but she's been

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<v Speaker 2>coming to this clinic for ten years. She's sixty six

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<v Speaker 2>years old and originally from Al Salvador.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Martha doesn't say much or ask many questions after

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<v Speaker 2>she hears that she has diabetes, but after the physical exam,

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<v Speaker 2>she seems to get less calm.

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<v Speaker 4>Comp we know, Whensa, it's a c.

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<v Speaker 2>Marta is also worried about what her daughter will say

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<v Speaker 2>when she hears about her diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I be an rico mia.

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<v Speaker 2>Diabetes can be genetic, but it can also be brought

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<v Speaker 2>on by diet, especially sugary drinks.

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<v Speaker 7>A no.

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<v Speaker 2>Martha says that when she sits down to eat, she

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<v Speaker 2>forgets all about what the doctors tell her she should

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<v Speaker 2>be eating.

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<v Speaker 6>Media, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Then Martha begins to listen to me all of her

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<v Speaker 2>favorite foods.

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<v Speaker 6>La banana jos.

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<v Speaker 5>Include.

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<v Speaker 2>She opens her purse and shows me the banana she

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<v Speaker 2>has stashed there, and I want to hear more about

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<v Speaker 2>her banana fanaticism, but we're interrupted by her cell phone.

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<v Speaker 6>Buzzy Dana Gisa, Hello, ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Martha's daughter calling to see when she can pick

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<v Speaker 2>her up, and Martha gives her.

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<v Speaker 4>The Newsma Notitia, the goat.

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<v Speaker 1>Is from Fudromedia and pr X It's Latino Usa. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Maria nojosa and today off to the doctor's office. Going

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<v Speaker 1>to see the doctor is almost always a stressful and

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable experience. It's a place where your anxieties about your

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<v Speaker 1>body and your life are super heightened, and where everything

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<v Speaker 1>can change with just a few words from your doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>Undocumented people generally can't access insurance and so their healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>options are very limited, but one of the places they

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<v Speaker 1>can go are free health clinics. Free clinics have only

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<v Speaker 1>been around in the United States. Starting in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixties and seventies, there were places that popped up to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the growing number of young people who were runaways,

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<v Speaker 1>or uninsured or addicted to drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a free clinic.

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<v Speaker 8>It's where our growing up children go for help when

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<v Speaker 8>they can't or won't come home.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one was the hate Ashbury Free Clinic, which

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<v Speaker 1>came to be after a flood of young people ended

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<v Speaker 1>up in San Francisco for the Summer of Love.

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<v Speaker 8>Dentists, doctors, lawyers, and other professionals are here as volunteers.

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<v Speaker 8>They treat all the embarrassing ailments of the youngsterdents to

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<v Speaker 8>nereal disease, drug complaints, hepatitis from shooting drugs with dirty needles,

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<v Speaker 8>pregnancy problems here, for example, was developed that form of

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<v Speaker 8>teenage group therapy where the kids just talk out their emotion.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, thank god that you don't think I felt

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<v Speaker 4>that her so she said she couldn't see me.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Today there are twenty eight million uninsured people in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, and free clinics can often be their only

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<v Speaker 1>safety inn We're going to spend time in one of

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<v Speaker 1>those clinics. In fact, it's the largest free health clinic

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. It's called Community Health in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>and it only serves people who don't have health insurance. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost impossible for journalists to get behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>access to medical centers because there are a lot of laws,

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<v Speaker 1>and rightly so, that protect patients privacy. So when Community

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<v Speaker 1>Health in Chicago told us that they would give us

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<v Speaker 1>full access to their facilities, we saw this as a

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<v Speaker 1>rare opportunity to observe the daily dramas that unfold there.

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<v Speaker 1>We spent three days sitting in on doctors exams and

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<v Speaker 1>talking with patients and staff and all of this to

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<v Speaker 1>try to capture or a snapshot of how undocumented life

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<v Speaker 1>manifests itself both physically and mentally. Now, at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of this show, you heard producer Sophia Palisa ka this

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<v Speaker 1>past summer, she flew to Chicago along with producer Antonia,

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<v Speaker 1>and Antonia is going to take it from here.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks Dramos.

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<v Speaker 7>The clinic is located in Chicago's Ukrainian Village, a quiet

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<v Speaker 7>residential neighborhood. It takes Gabriel do Mingez half an hour

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<v Speaker 7>by car to get to the clinic every morning.

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<v Speaker 5>That is logo.

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<v Speaker 7>Gabriel is the custodian at Community Health and he is

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<v Speaker 7>in charge of opening the clinics unassuming glass stores every

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<v Speaker 7>day around eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 5>Aki in directa meenteno.

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<v Speaker 7>Gabriel has a kind face transition lenses and a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of tools hanging off of his belt loop so.

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<v Speaker 5>The key.

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<v Speaker 7>He leads me inside the building and I thank him

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<v Speaker 7>for letting me in, But as soon as I start

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<v Speaker 7>to leave in search of the front desk, he stops me.

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<v Speaker 3>He lets me know that he's like me. He documents

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<v Speaker 3>the world, Yeah, does your participate?

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<v Speaker 7>He pulls up Facebook to show me videos he took

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<v Speaker 7>of his zoomba classes. He even bought a stabilizer which

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<v Speaker 7>makes the videos look very professional.

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<v Speaker 5>He's implemented.

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<v Speaker 10>See the pro.

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<v Speaker 3>Over the next three days, we meet a lot of characters. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>to go do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have time?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the patient's not here.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, so I leave you.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, I know, sorry about and you are.

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<v Speaker 7>If you were to take a god's eye view of

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<v Speaker 7>the clinic while my fellow producer, Sophia and I spent

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<v Speaker 7>time there, we would look like pac men gliding around

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<v Speaker 7>a maze of corridors chasing patients, and the patient's path

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<v Speaker 7>through this maze starts at the front desk. According to

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<v Speaker 7>the front desk, Monday and Thursday mornings are their busiest times.

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<v Speaker 12>Amos Borquet.

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<v Speaker 7>This is Altis Mendez and her name could not be

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<v Speaker 7>more perfect for her position.

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<v Speaker 6>We were talking to our patients.

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<v Speaker 4>He asked me what my name was, and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I forgot. Like you know, it's very easy when you

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<v Speaker 4>have pain, just think of me.

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<v Speaker 13>That's my name, Dolores.

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<v Speaker 7>Overall, the clinic sees eighty five hundred patients a year.

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<v Speaker 7>To be able to get care here, an individual patient

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<v Speaker 7>must have no insurance and have an annual salary of

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<v Speaker 7>under thirty thousand dollars. The clinic doesn't treat kids, because

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<v Speaker 7>Illinois provides healthcare to minors regardless of status. Once a

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<v Speaker 7>patient checks in, they sit in the skylit waiting room.

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<v Speaker 7>Their names are called out one by one, they take

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<v Speaker 7>their vitals, and then the patients are led to their appointment.

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<v Speaker 7>There are neurologists, ophthalmologists, even a dentist who will extract

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<v Speaker 7>your teeth while you listen to calming retro jams. The

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<v Speaker 7>exam rooms in the clinic are laid out in a

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<v Speaker 7>U shape. The nucleus of the clinic is in the

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<v Speaker 7>center of the U, and it's an open space with

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<v Speaker 7>computers and chairs where doctors and staff hang out. Every

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<v Speaker 7>morning and afternoon, the staff gathers here for briefing called

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<v Speaker 7>the huddle, which Sophia caught on the first day on

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<v Speaker 7>the board.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's all, thanks guys very quick. Today

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<v Speaker 2>the morning huddle is led by Amelia Pilch. She's from Poland,

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<v Speaker 2>moved here thirteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 14>Uh, you know, economy in Poland wasn't that great? Isn't

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<v Speaker 14>that great? I guess, so we just came here with

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<v Speaker 14>my parents.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Chicago metropolitan area has the largest Polish community

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States. And the clinic reflects that about

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<v Speaker 2>a third of patients are Polish speakers, and that's part

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<v Speaker 2>of why we wanted to visit Community Health. Almost all

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<v Speaker 2>of the patients we spoke to there were immigrants, and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes Amelia briefs the doctors, but she also maintains this

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<v Speaker 2>leaderboard at the center of the clinic.

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<v Speaker 14>A provider is like, really really good at it, we

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<v Speaker 14>give them a shout out during the hudel.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a whiteboard with names like the high score ranking

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<v Speaker 2>screen in an arcade game, but all the names on

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<v Speaker 2>it are residents, and instead of a point total, the

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<v Speaker 2>categories are things.

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<v Speaker 14>Like diabetics for they want to see less than nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent things us non doctors wouldn't understand.

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<v Speaker 14>That means that their diabetes is well ish controlled, so

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<v Speaker 14>anything over nine percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And the residents are pretty into these rankings.

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<v Speaker 14>It's pretty competitive, to be honest, Like it's so tiny.

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<v Speaker 14>They're like they always look for their names, and some

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<v Speaker 14>of them have been on there for like, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>eight ten times the same name, so they're very like,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, so we kind of here's you're awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Mattilios interrupts Amelia as she scours the board for

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<v Speaker 2>her own name.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, you were there some Well, it's for the residents only, so.

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<v Speaker 11>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the doctor who diagnosed Martha at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the story.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh, she's told me. I've heard about the.

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<v Speaker 2>Cats, and she's often the center of attention. I'm told

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<v Speaker 2>I must hear the story behind the name of her cat. Natcho.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, my gran sound gave me a joke. What do

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<v Speaker 4>you think cheese that is not yours? Not your cheese,

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<v Speaker 4>Not your cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Rios has been a volunteer doctor at the clinic

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<v Speaker 2>for eight years, and so she has a special connection

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<v Speaker 2>with many of her patients. Both Antonia and I spent

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time with her and in her exam

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<v Speaker 2>room between appointments. Doctor Rios told Antonia a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more about herself.

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<v Speaker 7>Doctor Rios, like many of her patients, is an immigrant.

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<v Speaker 7>She came to the US from Urdu Way in the

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<v Speaker 7>late seventies. At the time, there was a military dictatorship

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<v Speaker 7>and power and the administration was targeting civilians. They believed

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<v Speaker 7>to be part of a guerrilla terrorist group.

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<v Speaker 4>But they were also taken to jail because you have

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<v Speaker 4>a family who was involved. They would take Koto and

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<v Speaker 4>you were afraid. Yes, yes we were.

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<v Speaker 5>We were.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we emigrated.

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<v Speaker 7>Her family moved to Chicago in nineteen eighty three, and

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<v Speaker 7>doctor Rio started her career in private practice. She worked

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<v Speaker 7>for three decades and then decided to retire. But if

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<v Speaker 7>you can't tell, doctor Rios has a lot of energy,

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<v Speaker 7>and so she started to get restless. And one night,

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<v Speaker 7>while she was googling at two am, something she told

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<v Speaker 7>me she actually does very frequently. She learned about this

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<v Speaker 7>clinic Community Health and thought it was exactly the kind

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<v Speaker 7>of place that she would like to volunteer at. But

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<v Speaker 7>when she first started coming, she didn't exactly feel welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know anybody. And I saw these professors from

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<v Speaker 4>Northwestern rush walking talking given classes, and I said, what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing here? Because I didn't know anybody, I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to quit. I felt bitter, uncomfortably.

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<v Speaker 3>But then she got a little encouragement.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody from the front this game and say, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Rio. Sold the patient like you so much. They

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<v Speaker 4>all want to come back to you. So I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so maybe I can do something good here.

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<v Speaker 7>Mattilee is retired. She doesn't get paid to see patients.

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<v Speaker 7>None of the doctors do. It takes over one thousand

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<v Speaker 7>volunteers to keep Community Health running.

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<v Speaker 2>The way Community Health runs is that all of the

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<v Speaker 2>doctors are volunteers. Some are retired, but many are full

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<v Speaker 2>time doctors who spend a few hours a month at

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<v Speaker 2>the clinic. And all of the prescriptions provided that Community

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<v Speaker 2>Health are free for patients, even really expensive things like insulin.

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<v Speaker 2>They even have their own pharmacy. Community Health was founded

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety three by an Italian immigrant, a kidney doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>He was concerned with the number of uninsured people in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>so he opened a storefront clinic that took patients twice

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<v Speaker 2>a week. The demand grew so much that in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>ten they even opened a second clinic to serve more people.

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<v Speaker 2>But then in twenty fourteen, the Affordable Care Act went.

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<v Speaker 15>Into effect, and millions of Americans finally had same chance

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<v Speaker 15>to buy quality, affordable healthcare and the peace of mind

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<v Speaker 15>that comes with it as everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>And many of the clinic's patients were able to get

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<v Speaker 2>coverage for the first time. In fact, so many that

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<v Speaker 2>Community Health decided to close their second clinic because of

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<v Speaker 2>a drop in demand.

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<v Speaker 3>One knowsias, but at least.

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<v Speaker 2>One patient Antonia spoke to who felt that getting insurance

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<v Speaker 2>actually put him in a worse position.

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<v Speaker 7>Vis a Linocent Coseinyez stopped going to Community Health when

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<v Speaker 7>he began getting insurance through his work, but now he

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<v Speaker 7>wants to return to the clinic. The front desk tries

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<v Speaker 7>to explain to him that now that he's insured, he can't.

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<v Speaker 7>Jose hands the front desk person a letter, in it

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<v Speaker 7>he formally declines his new health insurance. He tells her

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<v Speaker 7>he's decided to stay uninsured in order to be able

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<v Speaker 7>to keep going to Community Health. The letter is taken

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<v Speaker 7>behind the desk to Vicky Chester, the patient services manager.

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<v Speaker 7>Vicky tells me that this circumstance is not that rare.

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<v Speaker 14>Oftentimes people will elect to cantle their insurance for the

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<v Speaker 14>sake of returning here, which is not something that we

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<v Speaker 14>encourage them to do.

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<v Speaker 7>What this means is that Jose would lose coverage in

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<v Speaker 7>case of an emergency, since Community Health only offers preventive care.

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<v Speaker 7>But Kse tells me that it's worth the risk for

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<v Speaker 7>him because he feels financially that he isn't getting by

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<v Speaker 7>month to month again, He's willing to risk a surprise

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<v Speaker 7>visit to the emergency room because his insurance is costing

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<v Speaker 7>him so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Las Cano's camp.

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<v Speaker 7>Under his works insurance, he says, he is now being

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<v Speaker 7>charged five thousand dollars to cover the cost of his

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<v Speaker 7>lotions to take care of his exzema. When he was

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<v Speaker 7>a community health patient, they were free. I want to

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<v Speaker 7>go check out where all these free meds are and

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<v Speaker 7>so I find myself in the clinics pharmacy. Doctor Rios

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<v Speaker 7>is there and she lets me know the lowdown on

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<v Speaker 7>one of her patients.

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<v Speaker 4>So we are here because we have a patient with

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<v Speaker 4>very high cholesterol called familiar hyper cooleisterolemia, and she's in

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<v Speaker 4>in medication. She's taking a medication who lowered the colesterole

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<v Speaker 4>What I think now she may not be taking the medication.

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<v Speaker 4>That's something many times we find that they prescribe a medication,

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<v Speaker 4>they get the medication from Fienn, but they don't take.

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<v Speaker 4>So she's coming today. I have to really ask if

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<v Speaker 4>she's taking and she always say yes, and after I

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<v Speaker 4>have to go around with other questions and sometimes they

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<v Speaker 4>say no, really doesn't I didn't take her.

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<v Speaker 7>Patient Irma arrives and it has led to the exam room.

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<v Speaker 7>I followed closely behind.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that medicina.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Rios cuts.

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<v Speaker 7>Her gaze away from Irma and towards me with a

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<v Speaker 7>sly expression that says, see told yourself, mad. It seems

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<v Speaker 7>like Irma is starting to give in to doctor Rios.

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<v Speaker 7>She's saying that there are nights that she skipped the

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<v Speaker 7>medicine because she feared that it was keeping her.

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<v Speaker 4>Up well, not is.

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<v Speaker 5>Mando?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So when doctor.

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<v Speaker 7>Rios seems genuinely shocked that she was able to get

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<v Speaker 7>to admit she wasn't taking her medicine so quickly, and

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<v Speaker 7>she tells she's worried about her needing to get up

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<v Speaker 7>in the middle of the night to use the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 7>that it might be a sign of another problem, and

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<v Speaker 7>so she's going to order some.

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<v Speaker 3>Tests, per okay. When I sit in an empty exam room.

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<v Speaker 13>Your croquet when.

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<v Speaker 7>Medico perolas, when I the door so we can talk privately, mises.

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<v Speaker 14>Bin.

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<v Speaker 7>I learned that there are things in IMA's life that

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<v Speaker 7>are not so easily fixed just by taking the pills

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<v Speaker 7>for cholesterol that doctor Rios so desperately.

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<v Speaker 3>Wants her to take.

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<v Speaker 7>Ima opens up about very personal things, and even though

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<v Speaker 7>I have her sign a consent form with her full name.

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<v Speaker 7>All of the patients we spoke to did. Because of

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<v Speaker 7>the nature of her story, we have decided not to

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<v Speaker 7>include her last name. When she arrived in the US,

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<v Speaker 7>she started to work in housekeeping at a hotel in Evanston, Illinois,

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<v Speaker 7>a wealthy suburb north of Chicago, but she stopped after

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<v Speaker 7>something happened at her work.

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<v Speaker 13>Physic any persona and mana years.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>And Ima says that she was frequently raped by her.

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<v Speaker 13>Managercopava Centia, Centia forte centia.

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<v Speaker 7>Can Ima says that people at her job didn't support her,

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<v Speaker 7>and that many of her colleagues were facing similar treatment

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<v Speaker 7>but couldn't speak up because they did not want to

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<v Speaker 7>lose their jobs.

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<v Speaker 14>Yep.

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<v Speaker 7>Finally, one day she gathered courage to leave her job

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<v Speaker 7>and filed a complaint with the local police.

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<v Speaker 13>And I'm with forion.

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<v Speaker 4>A persona.

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<v Speaker 6>No no, nothing machines.

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<v Speaker 7>She struggled to find help until learning about this place

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<v Speaker 7>Community Health.

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<v Speaker 5>Neste okay no I spress.

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<v Speaker 7>In addition to the doctor, she sees a therapist here

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<v Speaker 7>and with her help, she's been able to reframe what

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<v Speaker 7>happened to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Garnet gnio.

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<v Speaker 13>Espress her calu cha.

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<v Speaker 7>She's been here for only a year. She admits there's

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<v Speaker 7>still a lot of work to be done.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, so yes, a moment to schedules Canada, the po

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<v Speaker 13>be there, and the Moon says as if his sister.

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<v Speaker 10>To super.

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<v Speaker 7>People who argue undocumented immigrants shouldn't have access to healthcare

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<v Speaker 7>pose their position as one about lack of resources. Undocumented

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<v Speaker 7>migrants are invaders coming to take advantage of our system,

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<v Speaker 7>to use our benefits and take our jobs. But what

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<v Speaker 7>this argument leaves out is the altogether common situation in

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<v Speaker 7>which our system takes advantage of them. During our days

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<v Speaker 7>at Community Health, we started to see how this one

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<v Speaker 7>clinic is trying to treat patients by not just addressing

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<v Speaker 7>their physical health, but also taking into consideration the system

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<v Speaker 7>in which they live.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on Latino USA, we unpack the unique challenges

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<v Speaker 1>of caring for the undocumented. Stay with us, not stay by,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes Hey We're back, and producers Sophia Palissa car and

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<v Speaker 1>Antonia Serejido have been observing the inner workings of the

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<v Speaker 1>largest free health clinic in the nation. Community Health is

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<v Speaker 1>located in Chicago, and it only serves people without health

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<v Speaker 1>insurance Their most common diagnoses are high cholesterol, high blood pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>and diabetes, three of the most common health problems in

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<v Speaker 1>the US, and like doctor's offices across the country, this

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<v Speaker 1>clinic treats the physical symptoms of these issues, but it

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<v Speaker 1>also takes into account the very specific needs of their

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<v Speaker 1>immigrant and often undocumented patients. Now it's evening time at

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<v Speaker 1>the Community Health Clinic in Chicago, and our producer Sophia

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<v Speaker 1>is going to pick up this story from here.

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<v Speaker 2>The clinic normally has the quiet feeling of a doctor's office,

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<v Speaker 2>in which sound is trapped in the carpet of the

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<v Speaker 2>waiting room and doctors speak in soothing toes. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are certain periods of time when the quiet clinic becomes

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<v Speaker 2>a classrooms. Okay, good. In the evening, dozens of medical

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<v Speaker 2>students come from nearby universities. They see patients and write

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<v Speaker 2>up their charts. And she started out and a few

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<v Speaker 2>of them hang out in the blood lab.

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<v Speaker 16>Some centrafugures are running. We're running a couple of miles

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<v Speaker 16>that patients have given us to test their blood.

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<v Speaker 2>You say that likes you're like blood like in a

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<v Speaker 2>horror movie.

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<v Speaker 16>I know, right, I'm count Dracula basically no, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In the back room is Itze Lopez Tyler mcxanik and

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<v Speaker 2>Craig Johnson or us Tyler puts it.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the original squad.

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<v Speaker 2>On their first rotation at the clinic, they were all

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<v Speaker 2>assigned together each other. They primarily are responsible for drawing

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<v Speaker 2>patient's blood in order to test for sdis and blood sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>So what year are you in med school?

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<v Speaker 3>First year?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're rising in second years.

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<v Speaker 16>We're in our summer before the rest of our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>All three of them are in the process of considering

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<v Speaker 2>their next steps after medical school. And it turns out

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<v Speaker 2>Itzel isn't new to community health.

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<v Speaker 16>So I took a gap year in between graduating undergrad

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<v Speaker 16>and then coming to medical school, and I interpreted here.

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<v Speaker 2>It says parents are immigrants.

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<v Speaker 16>So as like the cultural and linguistic broker, I was

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<v Speaker 16>often in those clinical spaces with them and just realizing

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<v Speaker 16>how special and vulnerable those conversations can be, and how

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<v Speaker 16>difficult sometimes and how things get missed.

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<v Speaker 2>What she saw made her want to be a doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>especially a bilingual doctor.

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<v Speaker 16>As soon as you speak their language, even if you

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<v Speaker 16>don't look like them, they're like, oh my gosh, like

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<v Speaker 16>they bring in their kids, and their kids don't have

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<v Speaker 16>to interpret anymore, and they don't have to go through

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<v Speaker 16>this weird, awkward exchange. So it's important to me, and

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<v Speaker 16>I really hope, whether it's here in Chicago or anywhere else,

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<v Speaker 16>that I do serve largely Latino preprilation.

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<v Speaker 2>Language is a major issue at the clinic. Their patients

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<v Speaker 2>speak thirty four different languages, though more than half of

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<v Speaker 2>them prefer to have their exams in Spanish, and while

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<v Speaker 2>several doctors speak more than one language, like doctor Rios,

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<v Speaker 2>the clinic does have volunteer interpreters. The interpreters can be

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<v Speaker 2>found sitting in a row of bright orange chairs at

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<v Speaker 2>the center of the clinic, like soccer players on a bench.

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<v Speaker 2>They wait to be called into the fray.

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<v Speaker 17>Yes, I am grading papers. I'm teaching summer school, and

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<v Speaker 17>I grade papers while I wait.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Will Hester. He's a Spanish teacher and a

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<v Speaker 2>certified medical interpreter.

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<v Speaker 17>It's a Spanish one oh one class, so they had

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<v Speaker 17>to write letters to an imaginary pen pal.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked him how he got into interpreting.

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<v Speaker 17>I was looking for someplace to volunteer, and my husband said,

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<v Speaker 17>you need to go to this clinic and you need

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<v Speaker 17>to serve And I said, oh, I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 17>I don't know the word for elbow, you know. And

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<v Speaker 17>my husband said, go get a book, learn the word.

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<v Speaker 17>That's what I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Will approaches interpreting a specific way, like he's not just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to convey the meaning of words. He's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>create a more equitable world.

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<v Speaker 17>My job is to allow our Spanish speaking patients to

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<v Speaker 17>have the same access to the US healthcare system as

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<v Speaker 17>do patients who speak English, and to put them on

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<v Speaker 17>an equal footing, because what's important in that moment is

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<v Speaker 17>the connection between the physician and the patient. The interpreter

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<v Speaker 17>is an important part, but we should be an important

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<v Speaker 17>part in the background.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, his mission is to convey a patient's

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<v Speaker 2>words and emotions as accurately as possible, and Antonio got

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<v Speaker 2>to see him put these very principles in action.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sitting in on an exam with a patient named

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<v Speaker 7>He's trying to explain to his doctor, Nausea Babel, that

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<v Speaker 7>he's getting blisters under his teeth. He opens his mouth wide.

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<v Speaker 7>Doctor Babel is proficient in Spanish and can understand that

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<v Speaker 7>there's something wrong with teeth. But you can't figure out

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<v Speaker 7>exactly what he's trying to say. So she steps outside

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<v Speaker 7>momentarily to bring Will in.

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<v Speaker 11>So put this explica, Can I can I precession memo?

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<v Speaker 11>Will so interpretectunic director.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>Will begins translating for and he does it like he's

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<v Speaker 7>an actor embodying a new role. He talks in the

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<v Speaker 7>first person.

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<v Speaker 17>So I was going to ask if I could get

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<v Speaker 17>some better because they're having some blisters to come up

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<v Speaker 17>under the teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, with this information, I'm going to take it

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<v Speaker 2>back to the clinic coordinator.

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<v Speaker 5>Determinar ne.

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<v Speaker 11>Or I can't wait a few days. I feel fine.

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<v Speaker 11>It's that I couldn't eat.

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<v Speaker 7>It feels like Will is the human version of clipping

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<v Speaker 7>that digital paper clip that used to show up on

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<v Speaker 7>word documents. Will is very helpful, okay, seems very at

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<v Speaker 7>home at the doctors.

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<v Speaker 5>No mean Cristian Okay, nada, No reporter.

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<v Speaker 7>We're not using's last name because of his status. As

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<v Speaker 7>you can tell, he's a pretty easy going guy, but

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<v Speaker 7>he's had to face a lot of challenges For as

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<v Speaker 7>long as he's been in the US. He's had diabetes

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<v Speaker 7>and he's had to manage it. Along with other health problems,

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<v Speaker 7>mostly due to his work. Ya so is this Russiao

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<v Speaker 7>Pintihannas were special compression socks that go up to his

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<v Speaker 7>knees to help the circulation because he stands for so

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<v Speaker 7>long during his job. He also puts on creams and

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<v Speaker 7>lotions at night to help deal with the pain, but

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<v Speaker 7>he says his circumstance doesn't compare to what his family

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<v Speaker 7>in Mexico has dealt with recently.

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<v Speaker 9>Young Gradius, he says this is why he brought.

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<v Speaker 7>His family to the US. His nephews were only nineteen

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<v Speaker 7>and twenty when they got involved with cigadios or hitman,

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<v Speaker 7>and he feared his children would find a similar.

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<v Speaker 5>End your fails, Ya Cal s.

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<v Speaker 7>His fear was heightened because he already lost his son

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<v Speaker 7>in Mexico, not to the drug war, but because of

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<v Speaker 7>a freak accident.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a science, tell you, Natina the away no One.

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<v Speaker 7>During exam, doctor Babel asked if he'd be interested in

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<v Speaker 7>seeing other specialists, including a mental health counselor.

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<v Speaker 9>K is a black cone persona.

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<v Speaker 5>The problem is similar and prefacing see okay okay.

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<v Speaker 7>The counselor's room is three doors down from where Elutio

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<v Speaker 7>and I are sitting. The room has a surreal quality.

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<v Speaker 7>When a patient is inside the councilor's room, no one

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<v Speaker 7>can hear what they're saying because for privacy. There's a

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<v Speaker 7>white noise machine sitting just outside. But if you were

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<v Speaker 7>able to see inside, you would see something very unusual.

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<v Speaker 7>Even though there are no windows, there are dozens of

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<v Speaker 7>living plants, mostly bamboo. The counselor whose office it is

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<v Speaker 7>jokes that the plants live off of love. It is

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 7>in this room that Edim of the housekeeper we heard

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<v Speaker 7>from earlier, once shared her story and started to find

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<v Speaker 7>a personal sense of justice. It's where might tell his

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<v Speaker 7>story one day. It's a room where living beings, plants

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<v Speaker 7>without sunlight, people without status can grow.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up the last patient we hear from that community Health.

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<v Speaker 4>Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the last few days, producers Sophia Prisa car

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<v Speaker 1>and Antonia Serejido have gotten to watch how community health works,

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<v Speaker 1>from how they deal with patients who are more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>in a different language to patients with mental health issues.

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<v Speaker 1>But despite the clinic's breadth of services, they've learned that

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<v Speaker 1>many of the providers actually wish that clinic didn't exist

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<v Speaker 1>at all, Sofia Palisaka takes it from here.

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<v Speaker 2>In total, we spent three days at Community Health, and

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<v Speaker 2>over the course of that time, we talked to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of patients who are happy with their care, and

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<v Speaker 2>many of them have been coming to this same clinic

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<v Speaker 2>for years, decades. Even Community Health treats over eight thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people a year, and the reason why they can do

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<v Speaker 2>that is because they're privately funded. That means they're supported

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<v Speaker 2>by individuals, but also by huge networks like the University

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<v Speaker 2>of Chicago Medical School and giin pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes an army to make it run. They have

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<v Speaker 2>over one thousand volunteers.

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<v Speaker 10>I think Community Health does a very nice job of

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<v Speaker 10>using all the different types of providers in a really

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<v Speaker 10>innovative way, and I think that that type of innovation

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<v Speaker 10>needs to be part of our national conversation about health policy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Margaret Bavis, a nurse practitioner at Community Health

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<v Speaker 2>and an assistant professor at Rush University, and while she's

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<v Speaker 2>very proud of the work the clinic does, she tells

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<v Speaker 2>me that she and other providers sometimes feel conflicted about

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<v Speaker 2>their work.

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<v Speaker 10>The founder of Community Health, doctor Gerrillo, when he was

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<v Speaker 10>here last year for the twenty fifth anniversary, and he

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<v Speaker 10>has since passed away, but he in his speech at

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<v Speaker 10>our celebration, made a statement about how he wished we

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<v Speaker 10>didn't need to exist. And I always think about that

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<v Speaker 10>and kind of take that to heart.

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<v Speaker 2>And she echoed a thought we had heard from several

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<v Speaker 2>of the doctors here that community health is just a

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<v Speaker 2>stop gap.

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<v Speaker 11>To that end.

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<v Speaker 10>Can we replicate this everywhere and should we have to?

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, can we get the discussion to include everybody,

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<v Speaker 10>regardless of status.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Bavis believes health care should be a human right,

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<v Speaker 2>but she points out to me that even if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe that, there's a public health argument to be made,

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<v Speaker 2>when diseases spread, they don't discriminate.

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<v Speaker 10>If we don't give everybody the opportunity for measles vaccination,

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<v Speaker 10>then we're putting ourselves at risk. If we don't give

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<v Speaker 10>everybody an opportunity to have access to health care, we're

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<v Speaker 10>putting everybody at risk around us.

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<v Speaker 2>But undocumented communities aren't just dealing with infectious diseases. There's

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<v Speaker 2>an inherent stress in trying to navigate our country's immigration system.

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<v Speaker 2>The final patient we're going to meet is Maria. My godness,

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Emily Handel swivels around her computer screen to show

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<v Speaker 2>Maria her blood tests.

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<v Speaker 12>Dierecis for Movianna.

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<v Speaker 2>Maria has a vibe of someone who grew up getting

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<v Speaker 2>gold stars for perfect attendance polester.

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<v Speaker 12>And total for ciento viniquatro normal est menosquelo cientos perfecto.

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<v Speaker 2>And she takes that optimistic energy into an interview with me.

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<v Speaker 2>How long have you been coming here?

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<v Speaker 6>Wow? I'm be here since nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 2>Maria has been living in Chicago for twenty eight years,

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<v Speaker 2>though she's originally from Mexico City, but she didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>her legal residency until a few years ago. Having her

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<v Speaker 2>papers now should mean that she can sign up for

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<v Speaker 2>health care.

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<v Speaker 12>I could apply for that, but for a while, I can.

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<v Speaker 5>I can.

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<v Speaker 12>I have to weigh five years and I only have

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<v Speaker 12>a three years.

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<v Speaker 2>Maria wants to apply for Medicaid, and as a permanent resident,

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<v Speaker 2>she can do that, but instead of doing that, she

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<v Speaker 2>wants to wait five years until she can become a

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<v Speaker 2>naturalized citizen first, before she tries to get health care.

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<v Speaker 2>She switches to Spanish to better explain her concern.

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<v Speaker 11>Podria is.

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<v Speaker 12>No aorda this scene the kuala kuipida, Are you da

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<v Speaker 12>public tanto medici for the stamps? Eotro keadimento the medicina.

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<v Speaker 12>It is tarta publica in no Podria's kalivikar para las

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<v Speaker 12>yoda dani.

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<v Speaker 2>What she's talking about here are changes that the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>administration has proposed to make it more difficult for migrants

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<v Speaker 2>to seek green cards. The idea was that if migrants

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<v Speaker 2>applied for benefits like medicaid or food stamps, they could

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<v Speaker 2>be seen as a public charge, meaning dependent on the government,

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<v Speaker 2>and therefore ineligible for residency. The rule was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>go into effect in October of this year, but it

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<v Speaker 2>struck down by several federal judges. And actually the rule

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't apply to people like Maria because she's already a

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 2>permanent resident. But there has been so much confusion around

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 2>this new rule that many immigrants have dropped their housing, food,

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<v Speaker 2>or medical benefits out of fear with.

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<v Speaker 12>The Obama gonna be an imer for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Maria has considered getting covered through the Affordable Care Act

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<v Speaker 2>instead of Medicaid, but she tells me she can't afford it.

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<v Speaker 12>It was so expensive and say, okay, I paid the

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<v Speaker 12>insurance or I pay my rent. The migration situation for

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 12>our communities gray completely.

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 5>Grace you, Mual.

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 2>And Samchanci there, and that anxiety is what many of

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<v Speaker 2>the patients we talk to face in their everyday lives.

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<v Speaker 2>From the beginning of our time here, we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>know what it would look like if undocumented people weren't

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<v Speaker 2>excluded from our healthcare system, and we observed what a

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<v Speaker 2>difference it makes to have interpreters who care, free medicine

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 2>and access to mental health treatment. But this is just

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 2>one clinic, and even though it's the biggest free clinic,

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.879
<v Speaker 2>it serves less than one hundred people a day. There

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<v Speaker 2>are eleven million undocumented immigrants across the United States. Maria says,

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<v Speaker 2>the way people think about immigrants in this country is

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<v Speaker 2>all wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Solo qui.

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<v Speaker 12>Lojemos la semos pert in America too. It is zino

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<v Speaker 12>so Manila. Yes, Loki Mattafurustrella's personas.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, in America were worth nothing and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>kills and frustrates people.

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<v Speaker 5>He is almost inferos.

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<v Speaker 7>At six pm, the clinic closes down for the day,

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<v Speaker 7>even though we won't be around to chase patients down

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<v Speaker 7>the corridors with our microphones. Tomorrow, Community Health will reopen

0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 7>the doors and start the cycle again.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks legit all right, our thanks to the many patients,

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<v Speaker 1>staff and volunteers at Community Health who spoke with us,

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<v Speaker 1>especially those who allowed us into very intimate moments in

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. This story was produced by Antonio Serejido and

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Sophia Palissa car and edited by Fernando Camarina. Additional reporting

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 1>contributed by Maggie Freeley. The Latino USA team includes Andrea

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Lopez Crusado, Marta Martinez, Mike Sargent, Daisy Contredras, Victoria Estrada,

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<v Speaker 1>Renaldo Leanos Junior, Patricia Sulvaran, and Elizabeth Lenthal Torres. Our

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<v Speaker 1>editorial director is Fernando Santos. Our director of Engineering is

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie Lebau. Our senior engineer is Julia Caruso. Our associate

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<v Speaker 1>Zanga Rubinos. I'm your host and executive producer Maria Jojosa.

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<v Speaker 3>You're also a member of a book club.

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<v Speaker 4>It's no book club. We call it anti book club.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in a book club and this a group

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<v Speaker 4>of old ladies. What a little, a little grampy old ladies,

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<v Speaker 4>I say, And the books were more like weapons. So

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<v Speaker 4>I say that's enough. I left the group and the well,

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<v Speaker 4>this will be the anti book club. And we get

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<v Speaker 4>together once a month. We make dinner, and we watch

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:09.399
<v Speaker 4>a movie. And the most important is to treat each

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 4>other really nice.