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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to a special Christmas edition of

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Speaker 1: Cardinal Territory. Jim Hayes alongside Matt Holiday and right behind me.

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Speaker 1: I had a problem that I wanted to show. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if we can get that in there because

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Speaker 1: I have a blank wall. This is my diploma from

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Speaker 1: Geneseo State. Man. I know that impresses you, but I

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Speaker 1: see these these sets that people have, and they've got

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Speaker 1: Emmys and everything. I'm in a guest bedroom. I just

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Speaker 1: pulled that out of my closet.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess is the ink still. I'm guessing it's fading, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing.

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Speaker 1: Still it still looks good. They probably did it. They

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Speaker 1: probably did it with one of those old fountain pens.

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Speaker 1: Back when I was in college nineteen, I was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this gave me a really mediocre career in broadcasting. So

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Speaker 1: thank you, Jennie.

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Speaker 2: That's a way better degree than I have.

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Speaker 1: So what you don't need a degree?

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Speaker 2: Well, I signed you know, I got a high school

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Speaker 2: of di Plomba, but that's about all I got.

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Speaker 1: So well, you got some big contracts along the way.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have that signed on the dotted line than

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Speaker 1: from some college administrator. All right, it is a special

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Speaker 1: Christmas edition. So I came up with a few questions Matt,

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Speaker 1: and then we're going to take a break and then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get Matt Holidays Christmas plans. But my first

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Speaker 1: question is your friends with Ali Marmle. I mean not

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Speaker 1: let you guys have a good relationship. You probably snapchat,

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Speaker 1: FaceTime and do all that stuff. Yes, you do. Yes,

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Speaker 1: What if you were getting a gift for Ali Marmle?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you actually are. Maybe the

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Speaker 1: families will tell you send them a you know, fruitcake

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Speaker 1: or a fruit basket. What would you get for Ali Marmle?

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Speaker 2: Is this like a like player type of question? Is

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Speaker 2: just like knowing him personally? What he would like?

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Speaker 1: All of the bubble here. I'm gonna give you my

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Speaker 1: answer first, and you can play off that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: I would get him his own special customized Cardinal jersey

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Speaker 1: with the sleeves cut off, just like the old timers did.

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Speaker 1: Because he likes to show off the guns and and

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Speaker 1: he you know, he wears his hat backwards. He kind

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Speaker 1: of walks around like he's, you know, got the groceries

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Speaker 1: under the arms. I would get him that and I

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Speaker 1: think he could rock it. That's what I would get

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Speaker 1: him for for Christmas if I were getting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think, I think along the same lines.

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Speaker 2: He's getting to the age where plugs. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: losing his hair. It takes one to know one. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I believe in the you know

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Speaker 2: all the ads where you you know, the the pills

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Speaker 2: that help your hair grow back. I would send him

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Speaker 2: to wherever Lebron brought his back from all those years

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Speaker 2: when Lebron would disappear and then come back with more hair.

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Speaker 2: I'll send Dollie for his Christmas present to Lebron's guy.

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Speaker 1: That's sort of a hurtful Christmas present, but I like it.

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Speaker 2: I know we're super close and he'll think it's funny.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, it takes one to know one.

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Speaker 2: Like look, if I had a if I had a

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Speaker 2: full head of hair, I wouldn't I would certainly not

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Speaker 2: say that, But having dealt with baldness for the past

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Speaker 2: twenty years, I don't know. I feel like it's okay

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Speaker 2: to take a little bit of a job right there, Adam.

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Speaker 2: But I would, actually I would, I would. I would

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Speaker 2: give him a vacation with the holidays with us. I

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Speaker 2: would take him on vacation because I him and don't

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Speaker 2: get to see him enough.

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Speaker 1: Oh all right, now, how about a gift for Heim Bloom?

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Speaker 1: Would you like me to start?

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Speaker 2: Sure? I don't know him as well, so this is

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Speaker 2: going to be more probably baseballish, Okay.

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Speaker 1: My gift to him would be finding a willing trade partner,

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Speaker 1: another president of baseball ops general manager who has had

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Speaker 1: a little too much of the eggnog and might be

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Speaker 1: a little tipsy while they're trying to finalize a deal,

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Speaker 1: so that Heim can get over on the guy and

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Speaker 1: this guy could play the role of the Mark and

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals end up with a bonanza in a one

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Speaker 1: sided trade.

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Speaker 2: I like that. It's tough to be I would say,

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Speaker 2: I'll say a couple of free agent signs, like maybe

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Speaker 2: then can trade him at the deadline for more prospects. Uh.

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Speaker 2: So that so, look, my thing is is like I

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Speaker 2: baseball prospects by trading Russell Westbrook and Paul George and

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant and and and James Harden And at the

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Speaker 2: time people were like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe

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Speaker 2: we're trading these guys. The Thunder are gonna be irrelevant.

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Speaker 2: They're never gonna be you know, you can't do that

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Speaker 2: in that market. They're gonna disappear. Nobody will go to

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Speaker 2: the games. And the way that they were able to

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Speaker 2: accumulate draft picks, and then the draft picks they made,

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Speaker 2: and then they started signing a couple of like free

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Speaker 2: agents and trades, and now you look up and they

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Speaker 2: by far this year, and they have more draft picks ahead.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna hope for him that he can parlay

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Speaker 2: maybe a couple of of free agents on one year

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Speaker 2: deals into some more prospects and that everybody will say

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Speaker 2: that they're tearing this whole thing down. And then a

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Speaker 2: couple of years we'll look up and they'll be like

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Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder.

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Speaker 1: Now you're in the Christmas sphere. And of course the

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Speaker 1: Thunder have had a great run and it will come

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Speaker 1: to an end this year at the hands of the

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Speaker 1: New York Nicks. We're gonna take a break right now

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Speaker 1: Maybe they can help Matt holiday as well. Matt, I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious in the holiday household. I know you have

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Speaker 1: fa family over, I know you're close knit group. What

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Speaker 1: is the best Christmas gift your family ever gave to you?

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Speaker 2: Wow? So for me, we we've decided to go light

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Speaker 2: on the gifts, and then we're taking like a family

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Speaker 2: vacation every year. So this year we're going to Hawaii,

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Speaker 2: same place we went last year. So we we've gifted

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Speaker 2: our kids their big gift and it's a gift to

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Speaker 2: us going on vacation with your whole family. So we're

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Speaker 2: going to Hawaii on the twenty sixth for a few

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Speaker 2: days on a family vacation. And so that's probably like

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Speaker 2: the big the biggest best gift at this point in

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Speaker 2: my life is just you know, spending time with my

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Speaker 2: kids and having them around and playing cards and uh

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Speaker 2: So I don't I don't need anything, Jim anymore, or

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Speaker 2: never really did. But you get to a certain age

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Speaker 2: where you know, if you need something, you usually just

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Speaker 2: buy it. I guess if. And at this point I'm

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Speaker 2: not a big don't I don't really need anything big.

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Speaker 2: So going on a family vacation every year is kind

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Speaker 2: of our plan for our big Christmas present to each

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Speaker 1: That's really nice. And you never were the guy to

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Speaker 1: be the show off guy, so I know what you have.

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Speaker 1: You're fine with your family guy. I would say in

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Speaker 1: the future, like maybe next Christmas, it's a great feeling

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Speaker 1: to invite another family with you. Maybe someone like me,

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Speaker 1: my son and my wife because we like Hawaii. Just

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Speaker 1: something to think about, just some of the thing, just

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Speaker 1: throwing it out there. Last thing. You're a healthy guy.

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Speaker 1: You watch what you eat, always have, probably more so

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Speaker 1: than me. What's the thing on the Christmas table that

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Speaker 1: you don't care You're just letting it all go. Christmas Day,

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Speaker 1: Christmas dinner, whatever it is. What's the thing that you'll

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Speaker 2: Uh probably that would probably be sweets. Probably, Like my

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Speaker 2: mom makes this stuff called almond rocca. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you've heard of it, but it's like I have

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Speaker 2: I have a little bit of that, I will eat

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Speaker 2: way too much of that. But I I don't my

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Speaker 2: dad's my dad makes like we do Christmas Eve, we

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Speaker 2: do Italian because my dad, my dad's half Italian. So

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Speaker 2: Christmas Eve he makes like chicken palm and eggplant parmesan,

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Speaker 2: and he tries to make it gluten free for me,

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Speaker 2: like he'll make a but that doesn't mean it's like

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Speaker 1: Can parm It doesn't have to be gluten free. It's Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Don't ruin chicken parm Jim.

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Speaker 2: It makes my stomach hurt. I have a bad gluten allergy. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you want my stomach to hurt all night?

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Speaker 1: I mean no, I don't, sir, I don't. Okay, that

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Speaker 2: And actually actually they do. He can make it really

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Speaker 2: good gluten free. It's actually just it's you can barely tell.

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Speaker 2: So I would say probably the Italian meal before Christmas

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Speaker 2: that's not overly healthy.

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Speaker 1: Well, Matt, Merry Christmas to you your family. Uh, I've

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Speaker 1: known you a long time and I know you're the

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Speaker 1: real deal. I appreciate the little Christmas chat. And to

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Speaker 1: all our viewers out there, Supposedly they want to throw

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas everyone, and thanks for lunching a special christ

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Speaker 1: special now you mess me up, special Christmas edition of

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Speaker 1: a Cardinal Territory. We'll be back with the regular edition.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we're always hoping that next edition won't suck