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Speaker 1: Welcome to I Do Part two, the podcast that's all

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Speaker 1: about finding love the second time around. Here we are

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Speaker 1: Thelma and Louise, still single, still trying to do our best,

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Speaker 1: and we are luckily in Pebble Beach at the pro

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Speaker 1: am with three amazingly hot, age appropriate guys also from

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor. So welcome. We have Chalk, Gary and Guy,

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Speaker 1: and it's Thelma and Louise. And as much as we

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Speaker 1: would love to grill you all day long about The Bachelor,

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Speaker 1: we are actually here to talk to the three of

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Speaker 1: you about Chapter two, dating post the TV show, what

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Speaker 1: it was like pre and just kind of get into

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Speaker 1: the minds of you three amazing.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make a slight correction, not the Bachelor,

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Speaker 2: the Golden.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh sorry, you just look so young.

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Speaker 2: We are. We are the Golden Bachelor's Golden Bachelors.

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Speaker 4: From the Golden Batte.

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Speaker 1: But because we're also in your age range, we just

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Speaker 1: look at you.

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Speaker 4: I'll take that. I think.

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Speaker 2: Dating, Yeah, let me slide closer to the guy over here.

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Speaker 5: My dating life's been great after the show, different days,

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Speaker 5: I met all kinds of women, a lot of trouble.

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Speaker 1: But how your dating life change post the show? Like,

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Speaker 1: what was that. I'd love to know the dating kind

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Speaker 1: of pre the show.

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Speaker 4: Pre the show, you know, I I dated differently. I

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Speaker 4: dated locally in the Reno area. But then I decided to,

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Speaker 4: like a lot of us at this age, I delved

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Speaker 4: into the dating apps.

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Speaker 3: Oh so fun.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy to tell them our dating app situation.

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Speaker 4: Interestingly enough, I would actually say, you know, I met

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Speaker 4: a lot of very very nice, fun, intelligent, you know

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Speaker 4: women on the dating apps, oftentimes from me, though they

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Speaker 4: were you know, yeah, I had travel, you know, to

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Speaker 4: they don't don't necessarily live in the Reno Tahoe area.

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Speaker 5: Can I ask a question real quick though, percentage wise?

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Speaker 5: How many of their pictures look like them?

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Speaker 3: That's my question, and then we'll give you.

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Speaker 1: I also want to know your age range too, because

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Speaker 1: that's the whole thing we experience in la Is. Guys

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Speaker 6: Way younger or they put you know, their age, They

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Speaker 6: put their ages sixty and then in their comments they

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Speaker 6: say my age is actually seventy two, and I'm like,

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Speaker 6: that didn't make sense.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of attack.

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Speaker 5: Let's jump to this because I told you I'll ask anything. Okay,

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Speaker 5: So women do that all the time and they go, well,

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Speaker 5: guys want younger women. So we'll start with you. Is

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Speaker 5: it Thelma or Luise?

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Speaker 4: Theoma?

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Speaker 5: Louise, I'm Thema. What's catuemb the youngest guy?

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm not gonna lie post divorce and my divorce

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Speaker 3: And so I got divorced. At how old was I?

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Speaker 1: It was twenty fourteen for both of us, and we're

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Speaker 1: so you were forty one forty.

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Speaker 3: One, so I probably like, I mean twenty five, but

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Speaker 3: like I telling you, it was, it was. It was one.

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Speaker 7: Or three for six months, and then it was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: They'd just gotten their first credit.

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Speaker 5: Card and like we get n I do think part

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Speaker 3: Oh I didn't want it.

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Speaker 7: I just needed to like heal and that was like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you.

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Speaker 1: So when I first got divorced, I was on a

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Speaker 1: girl's trip to New York, and my friends were like,

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Speaker 1: Like I prefer age appropriate. Definitely, a lot of my

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Speaker 7: Also, this could be a misconception, but I feel like,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, and so for me dating someone younger, I

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Speaker 1: In Los Angeles, ye age appropriate for.

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Speaker 2: Me because coming up through the ranks like we do,

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Speaker 2: have time because it's just not worth it and it's

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Speaker 2: go fifty.

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Speaker 4: Five, but not below that.

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Speaker 5: He's sixty five, doesn't he look good for me? Amazing?

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Speaker 3: Golden, amazing? Okay? Yeah, you what about you guy? What

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's take kind of too criteria with that, and

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Speaker 4: I would, you know, be in the same lines as

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Speaker 4: I would go down. In other words, no, no, you know, no,

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Speaker 4: reality is that you alluded to you just don't have

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Speaker 7: Well. And also, I mean it's not pretty to talk about,

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest.

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Speaker 5: Women?

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Speaker 4: Women a much better than than men do.

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Speaker 1: So you three of aged really well.

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Speaker 4: I do have a story for you. That's that's a

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Speaker 5: You know the date that Joan and I had at Disneyland,

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Speaker 1: Giving this story. No, we saw it on the show,

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Speaker 5: You didn't see here is I said, Okay, I'm going

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Speaker 5: to give this prize to which one of you bachelor

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Speaker 5: I will not tell you because it's guycode, but it

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Speaker 3: Oh you have you have to say, gee, I love guy.

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Speaker 4: Not this guy.

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Speaker 4: Because you said guy and I'm thinking it was not guys.

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Speaker 5: They could sit there and think about that, but it

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Speaker 3: I love guy.

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Speaker 5: Remember who it was?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, By the way, the whole frat aspect. Can you

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Speaker 4: Well, ironically we were roommates.

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Speaker 7: No, my gosh, no one of you guys are sitting

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Speaker 2: If it were any of us, we'd be the same

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Speaker 4: We had a lot of late conversation. Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 2: No, I did an app like twenty thirty years ago,

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm really sure my age.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it was like around the early two thousands, and

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Speaker 2: I had some pretty good luck with that because it

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Speaker 2: Worked out in my favor. But now I don't that's

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Speaker 1: So do you find it easy to meet women in

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, has your approached I guess you had

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Speaker 7: Do you feel like your approach to dating is different

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Speaker 4: These guys are getting a lot of action.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the women are coming out of it's as guys.

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Speaker 2: It's very flattering, it's very flattering. But I've become more selective.

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Speaker 2: I become more confident in my own skin, saying I

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Speaker 4: Going to work.

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Speaker 3: So you're discerning, Yeah, very much.

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Speaker 4: So very much.

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Speaker 2: So how about you guys regarding you know what?

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Speaker 4: I'm just was kind of just blown away, like how

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Speaker 4: they really you know, different different guys. They resonated with

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Speaker 1: But that is such a universal theme, right, so it

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Speaker 4: Basically it is. And so yeah, I mean, you know people,

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Speaker 4: you know, I have been approached you know, more than once,

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Speaker 4: less than a thousand times. I don't know, somewhere around there.

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Speaker 4: But it's you know a lot of times. You know,

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Speaker 4: It is like that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what's the best story you've had thus far?

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Speaker 4: He does have a good one.

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Speaker 2: He's got at least one good Come.

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Speaker 3: On, you've been on national television.

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Speaker 4: You got to tell us, yes, yeah, yes I did.

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Speaker 3: Are they writing from prison?

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Speaker 4: I don't know that. Yeah, oh my god, but I

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Speaker 1: Have you several times interesting. So have you guys dated

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Speaker 4: Can I go back?

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Speaker 7: But I think ten years is good. I like your

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Speaker 5: I just think if you're in love, let it have Oh,

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Speaker 5: Personally speaking, my relationships, the serious ones had been really

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Speaker 3: That's you, that's I don't feel that way really yeah, Or.

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Speaker 5: You just have bad decisions. I mean, you know you

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Speaker 1: They also need to elevate you, Like we're really big

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Speaker 2: That fell instant connection thing is is really important because

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Speaker 2: I think it is important to have that initial attraction

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know for me it's it's I would say

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Speaker 3: Okay, so how do you follow up?

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's just going to have the pick of

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Speaker 7: When you meet somebody and you like them right away,

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Speaker 3: Do you play games? Do you you know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: Way to customary three days before texting them, Like what's

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Speaker 2: I think it's more natural where if I'm feeling the

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Speaker 3: Nobody likes somebody who smiles you. I mean, let's just

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Speaker 4: To right totally.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, some people do and they want somebody. I know.

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Speaker 5: I've got people in my life that they're my mother

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Speaker 5: And you could love somebody, but it's just the little

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally, you know.

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Speaker 7: To recalibrate, the younger group is like, we're going to

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Speaker 2: I'm learning the game, so I'm going to play the game.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to reach out for three days. I'm

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Speaker 1: How do you kind of directly say, like I didn't

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Speaker 4: I'll the last. I'll the last. You know, if I

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Speaker 3: Do it face to face.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not like, is it at the restaurant where

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Speaker 4: Know, oh no, no, no, no, because you want to like,

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Speaker 3: This, right.

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Speaker 5: Oh, And it's you know, sometimes you can ghost them sometimes,

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Speaker 3: But I think treat people you want to treat it.

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Speaker 4: Really like you? Okay?

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Speaker 3: But see here's my problem. We kind of differ on this.

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Speaker 7: I we both believe the chivalry is not dead, so

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Speaker 3: Even if I'm not interested because he just bought me dinner.

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Speaker 3: And that's rude. And you know, I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: That's just day why. I have a question for you too,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I believe in chivalry still.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent, and I'm raising.

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Speaker 2: Well, I also think.

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Speaker 7: If you so he's saying, if somebody asks me, if

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Speaker 3: So I would expect you to pay. But I will

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Speaker 7: I would be appreciative if you paid, and I would

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Speaker 3: Are you sure? And I definitely like I would so

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Speaker 3: that it's not a conclusion.

445
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Speaker 7: And I mean, but I will tell you if you

446
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 7: did take it and split it, it would just be

447
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 7: a note to me like okay. Again, if we dated

448
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 7: subsequent times, or if I said, hey, I'd like to

449
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 7: take you, you know what I mean, for a hike

450
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Speaker 7: and lunch or whatever. I feel like I invited him

451
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,360
Speaker 7: and I would pay. So it's but at the beginning, especially,

452
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,640
Speaker 7: I like when somebody.

453
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 5: Kind of I want to speak for these three guys.

454
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 5: Even if you offered to pay, we're going to pay.

455
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 5: But after a number of days, it's kind of nice

456
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Speaker 5: when I'll pick up one, right, I'll get.

457
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Speaker 1: The valet or show up with like a candle or

458
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Speaker 1: something like that. Like I went away. I was dating

459
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Speaker 1: somebody and we went away for the weekend and I

460
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 1: showed up with like, I don't know, like a cute

461
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 1: viewery hoodie, and he was like so knocked out by it.

462
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 1: He's like wow, And I was like, you're so generous

463
00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 1: with me. So there's different ways to show appreciation, but

464
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 1: that thank you, because PEO will not say thank you.

465
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 5: When they don't thank you, I remember that and then

466
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 5: you go back to it they raise that way, or

467
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 5: they just don't like you, or but you know, you

468
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 5: psycho analyze everything on that.

469
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 1: You guys, You like, what's a good day, what are

470
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Speaker 1: we doing?

471
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Speaker 3: What do you women?

472
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Speaker 5: I'm on a roll here, but I got to ask

473
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 5: a question back to Bezos fiance's dress at the inauguration.

474
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 5: I want a woman to look good, joke always looks.

475
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Speaker 3: Good, sophisticated, amazing, and I.

476
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 5: Don't want to say Lauren Sanchez. But to me, that

477
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 5: was inappropriate first day. If somebody dresses a little inappropriate,

478
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 5: I'm out.

479
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're more sophisticated, not sexy.

480
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: Class I don't mean classic, understated.

481
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Speaker 2: Classic, classic, classy.

482
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Speaker 3: You're not allowed to use the word classy.

483
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Speaker 7: My mom said, if you you have to say a

484
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Speaker 7: class act.

485
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Speaker 3: You're not allowed you classy.

486
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Speaker 2: Okay, class class and reason. Let these guys on.

487
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 5: I was trained that a first date, a first interview,

488
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 5: you're probably going to get the best out of the person,

489
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 5: and if they're looking trappy or something like that, it's

490
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Speaker 5: probably going to go downhill. We can argue that, but

491
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Speaker 5: that's because when you have a date with a guy,

492
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Speaker 5: if you have interest, you're putting your a game on.

493
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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, we talk about outfits, So what I hear

494
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Speaker 7: what you're saying, But outfits like do you like do

495
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Speaker 7: you like.

496
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Speaker 3: Do you like women to show up a little more

497
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 3: dressy casual? Like what like?

498
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Speaker 4: Well, we have ray vision, you don't have to put

499
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Speaker 4: it out there. We can tell what you look like naked.

500
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Speaker 7: Do you know that. I had a guy show up

501
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 7: and I said, how do you decide between lunch and dinner?

502
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 7: And he says, if I'm a little unsure about the pictures,

503
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 7: I like lunch because it's during the day so I

504
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 7: can really see her body when she's walking towards the tablets.

505
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Speaker 2: I like, you know, I like the words you use

506
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Speaker 2: class act. It depends where we're going, and we're going

507
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: to go to the beach, to a restaurant, or if

508
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: we're going to go in town, depending on the setting,

509
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: which makes a big difference. Read them, but read the room,

510
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: know the lay of the land, and just be class

511
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 2: act about how you're representing yourself. Because it's saying something

512
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: about you as a person. I'm already casting judgment and passing.

513
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 4: You know.

514
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: My opinions internally, like is this gonna work?

515
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 4: Is this someone that.

516
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Speaker 2: I could take to Yes, it's someone I can take

517
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: to the baseball game. Is this someone I can bring

518
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 2: home to the kids, or if there's a family event

519
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: or if we're going to a picnic. How is is

520
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: this person going to be in a in a mini

521
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 2: skirt with you know, with with bo. Yeah, so yeah,

522
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: it's it just depends. It just depends.

523
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 4: Thoughts same and yeah, I'd like them to dresh appropriately

524
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 4: for the occasion, and I'd like them to look very stylish.

525
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 4: I want them to look attractive, you know, I want

526
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 4: I don't have any trouble if you know, you know

527
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 4: they turn people's heads when they want absolutely not because

528
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 4: of something over.

529
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: The you don't want to walk flower absolutely.

530
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Speaker 4: Something to sometimes you know, like I have a date

531
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 4: recently and I had a woman cup up and said,

532
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 4: you are the luckiest guy in this in this restaurant

533
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 4: right now because of the person I was with, and

534
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 4: it's you know, I mean made me feel really really good,

535
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 4: like I am lucky.

536
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Speaker 3: Do you like one woman approach you?

537
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Speaker 7: I mean, do you like women that are more shy

538
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 7: and reserved and you make the first move or how

539
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 7: do you feel when that's an interesting.

540
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Speaker 2: Point you make because these days and at this time,

541
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Speaker 2: it's a lot different when you yes, it's amazing. Well,

542
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: one thing I was going to say that I'm going

543
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: to piggyback on what guys said, is I love a

544
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: woman who walks in the room and the furniture leads

545
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 2: her way or the heads turned, everyone is like, and

546
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: I get to sit there and say, she's with me.

547
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 4: We really did get along.

548
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 5: There was just different personality, different issues, but no fact,

549
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 5: no fights, no cat fight or anything like that, and

550
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 5: it was really great. We called it free group therapy

551
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 5: just because you know, we've all had some happened in

552
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 5: our lives and we sit down just as guys go, man,

553
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 5: this happened to me and another guy. It wouldn't want

554
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 5: up in you. It was just I've been through this.

555
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 5: It was fantastic and with all.

556
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Speaker 2: Due respect, we gave each guy the opportunity to finish

557
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: their story because it was for me it was more

558
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: of a spiritual journey and being comfortable in my own skin.

559
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: But allowing these guys to get out their stories that

560
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 2: we don't usually or often get to, who talk about

561
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: what we have buried to allowed us to be the

562
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Speaker 2: men that we are today.

563
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Speaker 1: So it was really twofold. Like a lot of the

564
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: show was the actual living in the house and creating

565
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: these relationships and doing that, and then the other part

566
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Speaker 1: of it was dating Joan finding love and doing that

567
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: part as well. Absolutely really important.

568
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Speaker 7: And that's interesting because I watched the show first, I said,

569
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Speaker 7: as great as your love story was, and it was

570
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 7: amazing and still is.

571
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Speaker 3: I The takeaway for me was watching the camaraderie between

572
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 3: all of you. It was touching.

573
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 7: And to watch guys really let down their barriers and

574
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 7: share things and their insecurities and their again their emotional

575
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 7: baggage or you know, talking about families and everything. It

576
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 7: was I mean, I'm getting chills as I say it.

577
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 7: But I said to Nika, I said, that was the

578
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 7: takeaway for me. And when people were crying when they

579
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 7: were leaving the show, it wasn't. I mean, they loved

580
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 7: Joan and it connected with Joan, but they were equally

581
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 7: as sad to leave each other.

582
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Speaker 3: I mean, you as we're sad that thing came to

583
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: an end.

584
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. I referred to it as a retreat for sexagenarian man,

585
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 4: and you know, it was very interesting and sure these

586
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 4: guys will you know, attest to this is that you think,

587
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 4: you know, you're sitting around the pool or you know,

588
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: around the mansion that we would be talking about you know, football, baseball,

589
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: those kind of things. We talked about our lives, we

590
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: talked about our past history, we talked about things we've

591
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 4: gone through and we've shared. We shared with that over

592
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: and over again, and it was you know, you would

593
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: do that on a one on one basis, you do

594
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: it with one on you two other people and you

595
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 4: just be having these incredible conversations.

596
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: Is vulnerable moments.

597
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they allowed me to, you know, and that

598
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 4: and I journaled the whole thing and you know, for

599
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: that whole time, and it was and then I go

600
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: back and look at that and the intense.

601
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: I felt safe telling my story. I felt safe sharing my.

602
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 4: Story with these guys.

603
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: Have you any to be vulnerable friendships?

604
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 5: Have kind of absolutely And guy and I talk a lot.

605
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 5: I said, guide code, but it's really grown up cold

606
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 5: code because we talked about stuff and they didn't show,

607
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 5: you know, some of it was picked up on the cameras,

608
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 5: but we talked about life change, the stuff from death

609
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 5: to bad marriages. We did things right, we did things wrong.

610
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 5: I've yet to see one guy betray the other one.

611
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a lot of men's group in LA where

612
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: we live. You know, I have a lot of friends

613
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: who do it and it's kind of like a safe

614
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: space and similar to almost what you guys experienced living.

615
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 7: To the fact that you were all kind of caged

616
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 7: animals and had a lot of time together or do

617
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 7: you know, like.

618
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 5: Go back to casting and luck, because I do think

619
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Speaker 5: there was part of it going is this person sol good?

620
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 5: And part of it will this journey be good for

621
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 5: them as well? But again not one guy's betrayed another guy,

622
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 5: and that's phenomenal because all the producers go, you wouldn't

623
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 5: leave these young kids.

624
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 4: They can't fight and everything.

625
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: It's just we mature.

626
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 7: I think it's just different and under like the unlike

627
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 7: the younger version of the show, you know, the the regular,

628
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 7: the twenty year old Bachelor's where it's competitive and cat

629
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 7: fights and this, I mean you all were rooting for

630
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 7: each other when you were going on the dates.

631
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd like to just slightly correct. We weren't caged.

632
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: We were together like a fraternity. So there was this

633
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: amazing journey initially of getting through the process and it

634
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: became a point of I'm going to prove that my

635
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,239
Speaker 2: record is so clean that I'm able to go and

636
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: do this. And then there was the night, the first

637
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: night of the rose ceremony, and that was the initiation.

638
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: And once that happened, we were like a fraternity.

639
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: Would you agree with that.

640
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 5: Yes, the thing the thing that I really liked, And

641
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 5: there was a lot of fans going, you've got these

642
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 5: mature guys and you're putting them in bunk beds and

643
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 5: all that. It was fantastic. Yeah, and there wasn't really

644
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: one of the It was a change for one person,

645
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 5: but there wasn't real anybody that complained about And it

646
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 5: was great. I didn't say that, but I watched it.

647
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 5: He could, he could speak for himself. But you look

648
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 5: at the relationships. You know what night we're sitting there talking.

649
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 5: In the morning, you would talk. I loved actually being

650
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 5: in that room with the five of us.

651
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: Yes, it exists, like some of the real emotions that

652
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: come up as you're all vying for Joan, Like how

653
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: did that also kind.

654
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: Of I would say, No, there.

655
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: Was nothing so refreshing here.

656
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 4: That was not Yeah, I don't know how hell it was,

657
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 4: you know when the women you know, kind of behind

658
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 4: closed doors. But we didn't really we didn't, at least

659
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 4: I didn't talk about Joan with other guys very much.

660
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: We we all had the per se, you know, but

661
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: we just kind of talked about the experience and they

662
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: supported each other and whatever was happening. So you know,

663
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: Toxic on On is one on one that Disneyland. Everybody

664
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Speaker 4: was like so happy.

665
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Speaker 2: For right and when he got back, how'd he go?

666
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: When you want to talk about it? I, oh my god.

667
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: And then so it's like that had.

668
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 5: Two moments of jealousy and I think I should I

669
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: was the final guy. So the big the reward one

670
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 5: on one date was the helicopter ride. Yes, and we

671
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 5: all knew it was going to happen, we just didn't

672
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 5: know who. And so the guys and it was it

673
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 5: was Keith on this and so they the producers go,

674
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 5: you guys, go get out in the pool. We knew

675
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: something was up. Then we're at there about fifteen minutes

676
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 5: and they go, what is that up in the air,

677
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 5: And the helicopter buzzed this twice and we're sitting there

678
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 5: doing I wanted that guy because we knew it was

679
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: so cool.

680
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: I remember, and then I needed to be up there.

681
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 5: And then Mark when he got the date with Joan

682
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 5: uh because last year they took a helicopter to this

683
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 5: big yacht and landed on it and so it said

684
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 5: like bring your fishing pool or something, so we knew

685
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 5: it was off shore and Bart comes.

686
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 4: Back to the date.

687
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 5: He is just gleating. I mean he is, and I

688
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 5: go brother, camera goes, well, tell me about the boat.

689
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 5: He goes, I w wasn't on a boat. We're all

690
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 5: like this, he goes, I was on a yacht. So yeah,

691
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 5: it's not like, you know, he got a one up.

692
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 5: It's like, man, that would have been fun. But you know,

693
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 5: Disneyland worked out real well for Jona and I. It

694
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 5: gave us a lot of time together.

695
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 7: Did you learn any dating tips from the show, like

696
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 7: from each other as you watched guys approach And.

697
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: For me it wasn't. It wasn't like that. It was

698
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: just be you.

699
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 4: I can benefit.

700
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: From what you did or what you said or something

701
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: like that. But it was more of just enjoy this

702
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: moment that I have. Not necessarily I'm going to copy

703
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: and do what the guy did.

704
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 5: If there's not a woman that hadn't fallen in love

705
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 5: with this guy because his I say soulfulness, but you're carried.

706
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: He was.

707
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 5: I'll tell you, he was the most carrying guy on

708
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 5: the show. Absolutely when somebody was was asked to leave

709
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 5: something like this, the consoling uh he was helped me

710
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 5: in a situation that I had. This was the best

711
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 5: guy on the show.

712
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: You that off of you.

713
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: And he's the best dress you've ever seen. I mean,

714
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 4: but you.

715
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 5: Said that guy was such a good friend, and Kim Cutson,

716
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 5: you know, for his personality, caught a little bit of heat.

717
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 5: The guy was there friending Kim and he was the

718
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 5: one that stood up and sang the song. Yes, Yes,

719
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 5: I give him kudos. And then when you talk to

720
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 5: Charles l about his wife that I don't think you'd

721
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 5: see that, and it was heartfelt.

722
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: You saw the change in Charles like he needed to

723
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: hear that.

724
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say that. You know, when I was

725
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 4: having the conversation with him, I didn't realize the impact

726
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: I was having at the time because I've had that

727
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: conversation with patients for a thousand times, right as working

728
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 4: thirty five years in the er. When I watched it

729
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 4: after on the show, I was going, Okay, no matter

730
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: what happens the rest of the show, whether I get

731
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 4: another rose or anything.

732
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: You made an impact.

733
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 4: I mean, the opportunity to be able to impact somebody's

734
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 4: life like that.

735
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: So sweet is you have a great bedside manner. I

736
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: bet you are a very you know the way you

737
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: dealt with patients, I'm sure was really special.

738
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 4: You know. One of the things I will say is that,

739
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: you know, because you're talking about like other people's playbook,

740
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 4: the way I looked at and I think everybody else was,

741
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 4: you know, probably at the same time. And I didn't

742
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 4: think of it as being a competition when I was there.

743
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 4: What I was trying to find out was was Joan

744
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 4: my person and the my Jones person and could we

745
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 4: see having, you know, an extended relationship. That's what the

746
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: I was like, Man, I need to be X, Y

747
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: and Z, because it wasn't the competition. It was like,

748
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 4: can we develop this connection?

749
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: I think that's so important with dating now is I

750
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: think you know, I used to spend a lot of

751
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: time I don't want to say, like trying to sign

752
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: the guide because I, you know, I just wanted to

753
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 1: make sure then that I had the choice. And now

754
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: I sit on a date and as much as I

755
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: I worry less if they're feeling a connection to me,

756
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: it's more about am I feeling a connection to them?

757
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: And that matters almost just as much because the rejection

758
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: piece was super tough for me back in the day.

759
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: What about you guys rejection.

760
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 5: Can I real quick, I need to go back and

761
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 5: say something. I did have one other moment of envy,

762
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 5: and I want your whole listening audience to have this.

763
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 5: I came in the show and I was working out

764
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 5: hard and I'd lost some weight. I was in pretty

765
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 5: good shape, and there were some other guys that were

766
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 5: in good shape. But I thought I was in real

767
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 5: good shape till guy took a shirt off and then

768
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 5: I was.

769
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: Like, I.

770
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 4: Can't compete.

771
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 5: I was just ripped.

772
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: So I did have to say that.

773
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.

774
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 7: So did you guys kind of get ready for the show,

775
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 7: like made sure you were bringing your best version of yourself?

776
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

777
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: But then something happened. Once you get there and they've

778
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: got all your wonderful.

779
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: Foods, do you kick the food?

780
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: We killed their ole meals?

781
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah. There was there was no chef.

782
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: And uh catering catering or well there was catering when

783
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: we had our our parties and stuff like that, but

784
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: there was no you know, it was It was really

785
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: humbling with what we had to go through, and it

786
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: made us more grounded, I think, and helped us to

787
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: realize what's really important. Here are us and not anything

788
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: else outside of here. And again Jackie's role was putting

789
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: together these men. That was just so amazing. And the

790
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: relationships that we now have with us for the rest

791
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: of our lives and stay in touch with each other.

792
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: You know, I can't tell you how happy him I

793
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 2: were over the past week.

794
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 4: We kids to be able to see each other again.

795
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 4: So it's it's been fun. At the mansion, it was

796
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: it was family. It was like being in a family

797
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 4: because we had ye had some some men who were

798
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 4: really good at cooking. Like I don't cook.

799
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 8: I know, however, however, that reminds me of story all

800
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 8: about but but I really couldn't do that well.

801
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 4: But I knew how to wash and dry dishes and

802
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 4: put them away. And I said, that really was it

803
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: was you cook, I'll clean the mess up. I'm good

804
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: with that. So it was.

805
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: And some guys enjoyed cooking, like Mark Anderson. He really

806
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: enjoyed putting together these meals without hesitation, and that was

807
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: that was great.

808
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 5: I got to tell you, I was fortunate to meet

809
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 5: Mark Anderson. That guy, he's the guy if you had

810
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 5: a sister you'd want him him to date or he

811
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 5: was just solid, great dad. He was really solid during

812
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 5: the whole thing. And when Joan came and said, you're

813
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 5: not going to move on to the next thing, we

814
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 5: were saying goodbye to him and he whispers in my ear.

815
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 5: He goes, invite me to the wedding. Oh yeah, oh.

816
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 7: And she was broken hearted to let him go, just

817
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 7: because she knew what a just great, solid guy he

818
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 7: was well and know there was a connection.

819
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 5: I know better than anyone else other than Joan, just

820
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 5: the struggles she had letting people go and with Guy,

821
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 5: you know, and she told me about that. She goes,

822
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 5: I didn't want to take him to that next level

823
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 5: because you know, and I didn't even know about it

824
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 5: until afterwards. And she goes, well, and what the story was,

825
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 5: and I told Guy this the other day because we

826
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 5: didn't talk about this, is they kind of pit the

827
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 5: two people, the two contestants at the end against each other.

828
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 5: And she goes, I was not going to do that

829
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 5: to Guy because that already and what they do is

830
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 5: you profess your love, write him a love note and

831
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 5: all this stuff. And she goes, it just wasn't fair

832
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 5: to Guy.

833
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: She was super elegant in the way she handled every situation.

834
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: She was so there you go. She's a class act.

835
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 5: She really is not class but class.

836
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 3: You can't say classy. My mom says, you just can't

837
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 3: say classic. You just can't say classy.

838
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 4: I can't say class.

839
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: So do you know? So one of the things that

840
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: she and I do, and I wonder because I think

841
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of you are single still so and you

842
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: all obviously keep in touch with each other. So a

843
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: lot of times when we'll go on a date and

844
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: maybe it's not a fit or vice versa, is we

845
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: will gently recycle, use, recycled.

846
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 3: So we say one recycled.

847
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 7: Because we did say that one woman's trash.

848
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: It's like because trash, just what is it? Trash?

849
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: He's not trash. It's just it didn't wasn't fit.

850
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, God didn't aligne.

851
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: So has that happened? Because you all know each other

852
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: so well, like perhaps have you gone out with woman

853
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: that perhaps wasn't for you, but you think guy would

854
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: be a great fit, and have you done that? Or

855
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: we do should So I'm actually going out. I'm actually

856
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: going out with.

857
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 7: Somebody that I went out with and then she gave

858
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 7: to her sister and the sister didn't connect with him.

859
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: And now I'm going out the next.

860
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 5: Compliment, it's a complimentary charm.

861
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not me, He's okay, why don't you well, darling,

862
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: he's not. And so I mean, what a great.

863
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you be if you.

864
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: Were a guy and somebody said, you know, it wasn't

865
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: a fit. But I think enough of you that I

866
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: think you should go out with one of my friends.

867
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 5: I have a success story in my life. I grew

868
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 5: up with a lady. She's a client, she's a friend

869
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 5: of mine. We climbed Kilimanjaro together.

870
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: You want it.

871
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: It's not on your bucket list.

872
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: September, but that's where the car during the show and

873
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: that surgery, so it was off. I'm sorry, but I

874
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 4: have it from next year.

875
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 5: So she lived in Austin and she on a dating app,

876
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 5: went out and met somebody and the guy goes, you know,

877
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 5: and you say, not for me, but he goes, I've

878
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 5: got a guy that you should meet. And it was

879
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 5: his best friend. They've been married for like twelve years.

880
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 5: Oh wow, And I mean, just the greatest couple.

881
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: You never know.

882
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 5: But what a compliment is going on? I do it

883
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 5: that time, Yeah, because we all want something different in

884
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 5: our lives.

885
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: It's also that energy is there. You know, you might

886
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: be the most fabulous guy and we might sit across

887
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: the table and not feel an energy, and all of

888
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: a sudden you sit there with her and you're like,

889
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: my god, this is my person.

890
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 5: Well, some people like smart people, you know, some people

891
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 5: like tall people, some people like a type personalities.

892
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 4: You know, it's just there's it's just so different.

893
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: And what we're looking for in our twenties is different

894
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: than our thirties, is different than our forties. Like, what

895
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: are you guys looking for now in your sixties?

896
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 5: I say the sea word compatibility. You've got to be compatible.

897
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: I hope, I hope that's the sea worder.

898
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 4: Well, I've said that befotunate word. What's he going to say?

899
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 7: But there's a lot of there's a lot of still.

900
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 5: Sexual to say, you've got to be turned on by,

901
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 5: but the compatibility because you've been in a bad relationship,

902
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 5: you've been in a bad relationship, you have there is

903
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 5: almost nothing worse. There's death and all that, but being

904
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 5: in a bad relationship where you don't want.

905
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: To get through. I don't feel like I've had many

906
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: bad relationships.

907
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: Want to get divorced.

908
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 7: Well that's another.

909
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 3: Another podcast.

910
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 4: You know, I'm going to jump off of your first

911
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: c because they had asked me early on, you know,

912
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 4: like whether you're looking for in a relationship, and I

913
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: actually came up with the five seas, which I expanded

914
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 4: to eight, and it was it was communication, it was compatibility,

915
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 4: it was commitment, it was caring, it was compromise. I

916
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 4: also throwing comedic, I love.

917
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: I love my God.

918
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: That's not negotiable.

919
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

920
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and chemistry you need to nine.

921
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 4: That's no. That was that was the one of that

922
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 4: and they never ate My brother Gary christ.

923
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: Got it nice. It's a lot to see, really works

924
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: for a lot of important Where's it in a relationship?

925
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 7: What advice can you give to women in terms of

926
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 7: good spots? I mean this sounds so tried after the

927
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 7: conversation we've had, but good spots that maybe they can

928
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 7: meet men or best ways to approach men or position

929
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 7: themselves online. And I know that's a broad question, but

930
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 7: just like whatever speaks.

931
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 5: To you, can I go first?

932
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

933
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I just did this on a podcast. Is

934
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 5: when you're on an elevator, say hi to someone, when

935
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 5: you're in the grocery store, just say hi to someone.

936
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 5: You just never know what they're going to say. They

937
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 5: could be in the same position when they're looking for someone,

938
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 5: and the high is not you're not being aggressive or

939
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 5: anything else. But then there's a lot of guys on

940
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 5: the show that have met people the ladies have DM

941
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 5: them and they've reached out to me. I think it's

942
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 5: a compliment for a guy to get somebody that a

943
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 5: lady reaches out and don't be shy and live your life.

944
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 5: But there's just people. My grandmother after my granddad, she

945
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 5: never dated anyone, So to each their own. But if

946
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 5: you want to date someone, you've got to open up

947
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 5: and you have to be ready. That's the other thing is,

948
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 5: don't waste their time if you're not ready.

949
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: It also doesn't drop out of the sky like you

950
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: have to put effort into meeting somebody.

951
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 5: Well, and if you want somebody in shape, go to

952
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 5: the gym. You want religion, you can go to church.

953
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 5: A lot of churches have a single deals you know

954
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 5: what's important to you, or do a little bit of

955
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 5: all of it. You never know. But I think the

956
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 5: best thing is to go to your friends and go, hey,

957
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 5: I'm ready to date. If you know anybody your friends.

958
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 5: That referral system is incredible.

959
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: Well, you have to tell you what we're doing just quickly.

960
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 4: Okay.

961
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: So I really wanted her to start dating again, and

962
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: I said it's time to go on an app and

963
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: she was just like, I'm not feeling it. So I said, fine,

964
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: So I am her Sereno de Bergerac. I am doing

965
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: all of her online dating.

966
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 7: It is my picture, it is my picture.

967
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: I wrote everything. I'm doing all of it. And then

968
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: I call her be like, just gave somebody your number.

969
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: But the problem is is sometimes I answer questions like

970
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: as if it's so then she hates coffee. I love coffee,

971
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I'll say like.

972
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: Oh so they invite me to coffee.

973
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: Coffee, but it's been really fun or instead, But it's

974
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: been fun.

975
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 7: And the nice thing is it's actually been kind of

976
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 7: freeing because you're not attached to the result.

977
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: I'm not at touched.

978
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 7: It's it's nice because I'm not going to call. You're

979
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 7: not going to call because I haven't even engaged.

980
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 5: Well, let's be semi intellectually interesting.

981
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 4: What do you want?

982
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 3: Way to turn it back on us talk.

983
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 7: I want something a little unconventional, but in terms of

984
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 7: personality and person I want somebody that I admire and

985
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 7: look up to and makes me a better person and

986
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 7: challenges me to get outside of my comfort zone and

987
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 7: become just a more evolved, interesting and smart person. But

988
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 7: I want somebody that's funny, intelligent, confident, and also has

989
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 7: their own life and interests. Not that I I mean,

990
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 7: not that I want I want to do things together,

991
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 7: but I am somewhat independent and I have a full life.

992
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 7: And that's not to say that I don't want to

993
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 7: integrate lives with somebody. But I really have a family

994
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 7: that I'm close to, an extended family and friends, and

995
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 7: I would love to integrate that with somebody. But I'm

996
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 7: okay if somebody has a lot of their own history

997
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 7: as well, and Sarah like holidays are important to them,

998
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 7: and it's really important that they are in Massachusetts, do

999
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 7: you know.

1000
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: What I mean? With their extended family or their grandkids

1001
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 3: or whatever. They have a widow. You know, they're widowers

1002
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: and they need to be somewhere.

1003
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 7: I'm okay if we don't do everything all the time

1004
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 7: together and we have certain traditions that we maintain separately.

1005
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: She been divorced for a while oh what.

1006
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: Is that she's used to being on her own?

1007
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, that you're okay with it?

1008
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am. And I think that I have to

1009
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: work on maybe being a little more needy. Truly I do.

1010
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 4: I don't.

1011
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 7: I mean, needy is an unattractive word, but I think

1012
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 7: that I give off the air that I don't. I

1013
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 7: think that that might be off putting. And it's like,

1014
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 7: I say, I want to date, but if I'm not

1015
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 7: making somebody feel like.

1016
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: They're adding value, I think. I guess men, I think

1017
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,959
Speaker 2: we we want to be how do I say this, Well,

1018
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: just say it. I think we want to feel like

1019
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: we are still the man. We want to still feel

1020
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: like we're adding value in that way. And it's kind

1021
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: of tricky because times have changed such that there is

1022
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: such independence and women who have such great success, and

1023
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: incorporating the two together is very very important. You're still

1024
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: able to do that, They're still able to do what

1025
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: they want to do and go and grow, and so

1026
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: it's it's a melting pot, right, It's a combination of

1027
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 2: the two and making that work and having respect for

1028
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: what you do and loving you for what you do

1029
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 2: and get behind you, giving you the space and giving

1030
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: a space to still do that, but still feeling like

1031
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: but she still wants to be with me, she still

1032
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: needs some of the things that I.

1033
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: And I'm additive to her life wouldn't feel.

1034
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that and that's I would. I would say

1035
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: that you you want somebody who enhances your life and

1036
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 4: you enhance their life.

1037
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a piece that's important for me which I

1038
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: didn't have in my marriage, which is I need the

1039
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: person to be like my park bench, the person who

1040
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: I can sit next to just look at the birds,

1041
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: either laughing hysterically or totally comfortable in silence. Somebody who's

1042
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: really my best friend. And if it's not one hundred

1043
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: percent additive, like she was saying, I don't need to

1044
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: be with somebody. I want to be with the right

1045
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: person because I'm okay on my own right and so

1046
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm really looking my kind of catchphrase is my park bench.

1047
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well said it's good.

1048
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 3: And we are strong.

1049
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 7: So I think I want somebody who is strong in

1050
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 7: their own ways that I can maybe not come across

1051
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 7: so strong.

1052
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 4: So why I like strong?

1053
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: I like strong women across very strong to you.

1054
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: No, not strong in the in the sense.

1055
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 5: Of overpowering, not overly.

1056
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 2: No, I think this is a wonderful thing. It's very

1057
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: attractive to me to find someone with that kind of

1058
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: drive because.

1059
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 3: I feel like.

1060
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: Three times a charm and we're going to keep it going.

1061
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: But I think it's attractive to have.

1062
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 4: A strong woman. But right, I mean, I don't want.

1063
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: Somebody who's just this little doormat doormat and following me

1064
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: every It's like, where's your life?

1065
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 5: The military does this. They do a summary after every mission.

1066
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 5: What went right? What went wrong? Have you done that?

1067
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 3: Chuck? I feel like we need to have a therapy

1068
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 3: session after this. I really do.

1069
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 7: Like we're here all weekend. I might have an hour session,

1070
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 7: give metactifully, you have to.

1071
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 5: Look at it and go if I do want someone,

1072
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 5: but it's it's luck and it's time, and it's just

1073
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 5: but you know what, why hasn't it worked? And I

1074
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 5: just got lucky because you could say the same thing

1075
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 5: to me and I go, I couldn't put this thing

1076
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 5: together if I had to. My daughter signed me up

1077
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 5: for the show.

1078
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 4: She was luck. She did.

1079
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 5: My daughter did the application. You asked this question earlier

1080
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 5: as if she were me, and what I do?

1081
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing her online dating and I think nothing is random.

1082
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: I think people come into our life, whether it's a

1083
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: lesson or a blessing, something to learn. Right, So, in

1084
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: terms of taking stock of each relationship and what you

1085
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: learn and what you're going to take with you, what

1086
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: was the good, what was the bad, It all kind

1087
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 1: of builds up to hopefully what becomes your final destination.

1088
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 5: And you learn then you learn the non negotiables, Oh

1089
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 5: for sure on that, which.

1090
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 4: Are That's a whole nother thing.

1091
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: That's a podcast number two.

1092
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a whole another potlem we all have, Yeah,

1093
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 5: as we should.

1094
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: So we we kind of for the last few minutes,

1095
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: we came up with this idea of doing well. Actually

1096
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen did a Bravo, but we want to do

1097
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: our own game of rapid fire, which is like basically

1098
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: this or that, and we're going to just each of you,

1099
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, kind of throw out a scenario and you know,

1100
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: you just respond with what the answer is?

1101
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, you want me to start yep, street smart

1102
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 9: or book smart smart, night out on the town or

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00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 9: quiet night in, Quiet night in, if a woman drinks

1104
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 9: a bit too much on a first date, endearing or

1105
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 9: a turnoff run turn off, implants are oh natural, Oh.

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00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 4: I like them, big Gary.

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00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: Both anything.

1108
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 3: Both phone call or FaceTime.

1109
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 4: FaceTime.

1110
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 3: I don't do face phone call.

1111
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 4: Phone call.

1112
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: You're young and heart the phone call.

1113
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 4: You know, a phone call to begin with, but you

1114
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 4: need to move to a face at least. I've just

1115
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: learned this. You know, I need to have like I

1116
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: actually have FaceTime dates. I'll say, let's just, you know,

1117
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 4: get a.

1118
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 5: Across from the guy could wake up after ten sleeping.

1119
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 5: He's gonna look pretty. That's what he needs, you know,

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00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 5: It's just that's how he is.

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00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 2: And I think you really quick. The FaceTime thing really

1122
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 2: takes away from the touching, the feeling, that very intimate

1123
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: moment you need to have with someone. It just ruins

1124
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: that just being able to reach out and and see

1125
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: your expressions in person.

1126
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: No, don't get okay, this was a rapid fire people.

1127
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: Does it matter if a person cooks or doesn't cook.

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00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 4: I like some of the cooks. I like cooking.

1129
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 3: Okay, final one sending a nude or sending a funny meme.

1130
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 4: Funny meme, no nudes.

1131
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, you have been amazing.

1132
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: Wait do you have a rapid fire one for each

1133
00:52:59,200 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: of us?

1134
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to.

1135
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 4: He doesn't want to do asked for shoulders, shoulders, shoulders, Blonder, Brunette, Bnette, Brunette, Barnette,

1136
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: no comment.

1137
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: Parties, so much fun. Thank you for doing this with us.

1138
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: You're very welcome. I can't just say one thing, just

1139
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 4: you know, with these guys, and we had this connection

1140
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 4: with all all the guys on the show, but I

1141
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 4: do have to say that, you know, we three were

1142
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 4: roommates along with two other guys, Charles and Michael. I

1143
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: have to compliment Chalk because he he's been so gracious

1144
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 4: to everybody. He is, He's very articulated, he speaks really well.

1145
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 4: He is a good therapist, and I was on the

1146
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 4: receiving end of some of those therapy sessions and hopefully

1147
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 4: vice versa. So I want to thank you for the

1148
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 4: experienced Chockets. It was absolutely tremendous and Gary knows how

1149
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 4: I feel about it. We met the very first night

1150
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 4: before we went out, and we've been brothers from another

1151
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 4: mother since ever since. I love it absolutely so.

1152
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: In conclusion, hopefully we gave our listeners a real kind

1153
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: of bird's eye view into the minds of these amazing

1154
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: men Golden Bachelors for all things dating in our age

1155
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: as we all look for our chapter two. Thank you

1156
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: so much, guys.

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00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 7: Thanks for having us, Thank you, thank you so If

1158
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,479
Speaker 7: you're having a hard time getting back into the dating

1159
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 7: scene or ready to get back out there but don't

1160
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 7: know where to start, definitely reach out to us. You

1161
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 7: can call, you can email, follow us on socials. All

1162
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 7: the information will be in the show notes, and make

1163
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 7: sure to rate and review this podcast. I Do Part

1164
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 7: two an iHeartRadio podcast where falling in love is the

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00:54:52,640 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 7: main objective. Watching