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<v Speaker 1>The Black Fat Felm Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 1>and Doctor Sean Paul LLC. Hey, everyone, welcome to another

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<v Speaker 1>episode of the BLACKFFIM Podcast, where all the intersections of

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<v Speaker 1>identity are celebrated. I am one of your hosts, John

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<v Speaker 1>also known as doctor John Paul, and I'm unpolitely here

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<v Speaker 1>with my Karen wig On to speak to the manager

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty five because what is this, honey? What

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<v Speaker 1>is this like? Literally? If you literally the hair is

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<v Speaker 1>over my eye and I'm what is this honey like?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm can I speak to the manager? I need to

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<v Speaker 1>speak to somebody in charge because this these last few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks have been a total shit show, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>COVID to boost she just literally the last few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>have just molly whopped me all upside my head. But

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<v Speaker 1>for those who are concerned, yes, I'm well, I'm better now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually COVID negative. But I had COVID literally the

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<v Speaker 1>entire time that I was in New Orleans and the

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<v Speaker 1>entire time that I was in Minnesota, I had COVID

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<v Speaker 1>And I absolutely no, it wasn't Where was I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't Minnesota. Where was I last Clintonville Books, Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually didn't know. I didn't figure out I had

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<v Speaker 1>COVID until actually after the book talk, I said, let

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<v Speaker 1>me just test because I feel like trash, and sure

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<v Speaker 1>enough I had it. But yeah, it's all good. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all good. So yeah, it's been that. It's it's been that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I've just been looking around like same won flave,

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<v Speaker 1>same literally same won flave. But anyway, how are you jall?

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<v Speaker 2>First of all things, so like one, I'm I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>you're okay, and I'm glad that, like, like it's because

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<v Speaker 2>I had COVID, came out from New York and I

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<v Speaker 2>had no I had no idea, like I yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I just had bad allergies. And I tested before

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<v Speaker 2>I came back and it was negative. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>came back and I was positive. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like fuck and I was like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>I like I clearly had it, like I had but

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<v Speaker 2>like but but like I'm glad because I used to

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<v Speaker 2>be so afraid of it. And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean and I still am in some ways, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, okay, wow, like I thought the allergies,

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<v Speaker 2>like I really thought it the aologies for a few

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<v Speaker 2>days and thankful that like it's no like this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is a proof that science works and vaccines work,

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<v Speaker 2>because we aren't like we weren't having the same ship

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<v Speaker 2>we used to have before when we hit us. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad, glad that you weren't taken down. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>that you're okay now, and I pray that all the

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<v Speaker 2>people that you were around did not get it right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also and I sent out text to let people know,

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<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't you know, the same thing like I

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<v Speaker 1>had went to a birthday party shout out to friends

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<v Speaker 1>of the show James. They had a birthday party, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Saturday before I left. And then you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>text folks that were around me, you know, in Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the same thing when I was over at Clintonville.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I basically I told him like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't go knowing it was one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things of like I knew I didn't feel well,

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<v Speaker 1>but also I just thought it was travel, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the same phil.

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<v Speaker 2>As is exhausting, like it like like you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like the you don't know these.

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<v Speaker 3>Days what it is like.

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<v Speaker 2>And I imagine like you're tested, You're like, I'm fine,

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<v Speaker 2>just I just don't feel well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like then ship yeah, And it was very much

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<v Speaker 1>giving that I had tested on Tuesday and it was negative,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I tested again on Friday and I was positive,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was like, Okay. So I had to

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten COVID between the birthday party and between the

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<v Speaker 1>traveling to New Orleans, which I'm not surprised because last

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<v Speaker 1>year when I traveled to New Orleans, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I told you before. I was at Essencevest last year

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<v Speaker 1>and I got I was there working it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>got yeah ors.

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<v Speaker 2>Because honestly was so I'm sure I got too. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I went from New York and I was like, i'muc.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was like, I'm duccining and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like and I was like, just play biologies and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh damn, damn girl.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, not New Orleans being like the place where the.

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<v Speaker 2>Second all I wish I really wish you to, Karen Wig,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like you with a bob, You with

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<v Speaker 2>a bob, you know, you know, like the people who

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<v Speaker 2>like lets, people like who bring this bobs with them

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<v Speaker 2>wherever they go. Yeah, that's the ship I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see and I would love. Okay, next life, shall we

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<v Speaker 2>have you and I should have matching bobs.

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<v Speaker 1>We literally should. I would live literally just have on

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<v Speaker 1>a matching Karen Wig.

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<v Speaker 3>I would live, would be so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay the black lady who dates the white lady who

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<v Speaker 1>dates black men?

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<v Speaker 2>Wi, yes, yes, please it is God, okay, fam it

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<v Speaker 2>is it is your girl. Jordan ak well, I cannot english.

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<v Speaker 2>It should girl jo hoo aka Jordan the baddest. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here to remind y'all that not everything has to

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<v Speaker 2>be online.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay to leave a little mystique an amused boosh

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<v Speaker 3>if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to give the full course of your

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<v Speaker 2>stories always like you're allowed to be private girl in

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<v Speaker 2>some ways still even if you love the moment's life,

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<v Speaker 2>like I just I feel I fear the line of

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<v Speaker 2>being like share it's it's your life, girl, share what

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<v Speaker 2>you want to share. And also some post should remain

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<v Speaker 2>inside thought like that's that's really that's just really it

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<v Speaker 2>something it should be sometimes I just like I just

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<v Speaker 2>everything has to be I don't need to know it

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<v Speaker 2>like no one had to know this. It's actually you

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<v Speaker 2>can just you can know if you if you must

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<v Speaker 2>write the story or the or the or the tweet

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<v Speaker 2>drafted girl. Almost have to do that, my god. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I also I do want, I do want to share

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<v Speaker 2>folks that the bullying, the bullying has one has room

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<v Speaker 2>over again. I have updated pronounce to here they pronounced recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a deal I want. I want to share here.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that a bully, but everyone. Everyone wants to Everyone

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be non binary so badly and right see,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, I am, let's push you, let's

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<v Speaker 2>put you in the gay agenda and the gay and

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<v Speaker 2>the transagenda.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm there for it. Yes, I'm there for it.

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<v Speaker 3>I am. I'm I'm susceptible and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>So come in now. I okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, do your thoughts on close friends lists?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? So I don't want to. I'm gonna give myself away.

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<v Speaker 1>I I have some people on my close friends list,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I have some people and and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then there are people who have me on THEIRS that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have on mine. I will be transparent and

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<v Speaker 1>saying that my close friends list is really when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like wanting to talk ship but I don't want it,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when I'm talking industry ship, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>people to see it. So I'm very intentional about Like,

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<v Speaker 1>who I have in my close friends list are people

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<v Speaker 1>other people in the industry who I know we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about things, or we talk about stuff that we see

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<v Speaker 1>like I probably shouldn't them, but I have I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just say this. I have a friend, her her

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<v Speaker 1>name is. She works in music, but our views are

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<v Speaker 1>very much the same, and a lot of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that we see in both music and in television and film,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm in her close friends and she's in mine,

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<v Speaker 1>and we go back and forth kind of sharing ship

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<v Speaker 1>and talking shit about the stuff that we see just

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<v Speaker 1>across the board. So yeah, I don't I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a close friends list because I'm putting like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I have friends that and again that's what they

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<v Speaker 1>like to do. I have friends who have close friends

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<v Speaker 1>because they like to post nudie pictures or they like

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<v Speaker 1>to post you know, they like to post stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>probably wouldn't be So what's the word I'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very ford, say like, yeah, they're very fork.

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<v Speaker 2>When people do and I and you know, and and

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<v Speaker 2>and I like, and I I like, I get reason

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<v Speaker 2>why people have close friends list and like and like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have one that I made like years ago, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't. I just think, don't use it like

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<v Speaker 2>I have know yeah, like like but I always I

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<v Speaker 2>always laugh because close friends list is where a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times people who who have to say things that

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<v Speaker 2>could just be could just be a draft is where

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<v Speaker 2>it comes out and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, I'm like, like, girl, I didn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>see this.

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<v Speaker 3>I see this first of all. I mean, listen, don't

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<v Speaker 3>remove me.

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love that part. I love that you

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<v Speaker 1>want me there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I love the trust. I love the faith you

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<v Speaker 2>have on me. You know, I'll never betray you across you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never tell you. That's what it's maybe a dumb thought,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, but I am thinking it sometimes, but like, don't, don't,

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't remove remove me, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I love me on the list, but I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I get in trouble for santence, I really

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. There are people that I know have a

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<v Speaker 1>close friends list and I'm not on it, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be wanting to just put my finger right on their

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<v Speaker 1>forehead and be like, put me in your close friends list.

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<v Speaker 1>So I could be nosy because I know.

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<v Speaker 2>You say so, and I know it's fine. I like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have one girl. We're like we're like besties. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not on her list. And I'm like, girl, why And

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<v Speaker 2>he's like because it was like nudes, I'm like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>like ill, okay, let me hep you.

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<v Speaker 1>Up that bitch right, like, let me you swear you

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<v Speaker 1>swear that. I like that I have a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>you being nude. And that's like, I'm right, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Love a dud. I'm like, okay, okay, peaches. Yeah, is.

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<v Speaker 1>This mindset that I don't know? I just I I

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<v Speaker 1>hate that there are so many people who are like

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<v Speaker 1>so conservative and they're like, oh, you're not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>like people when they're nude. And it's like, baby, like

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<v Speaker 1>come on now, we all know, right, let people be.

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<v Speaker 1>Let people have something my god anyway. Yeah, so so

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, I'll just go ahead and add you

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<v Speaker 1>to my close friends list. You know what, Actually I

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<v Speaker 1>think you are in my closest I am.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I am, And like, like, let me be clear,

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<v Speaker 2>you weren't one of the people that I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>Like okay, no, no, no, I am, And like and you

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<v Speaker 2>are on mine. I just don't post to it. I

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<v Speaker 2>posted him in three years, but you are on mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you know you are on mine the last time,

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<v Speaker 2>the last time, I definitely am.

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<v Speaker 3>I responded to it a lot, for sure. I love

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<v Speaker 3>you Clouanslant girl.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>I love ye.

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<v Speaker 2>And And the last my posted, blest my post on

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<v Speaker 2>mine was literally was was was when Ranastance dropped the

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<v Speaker 2>day Ransom drop. That was like because because because I

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<v Speaker 2>was working my ass up in my house to church girl,

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<v Speaker 2>that was it. But yeah, I have posted. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>three years, but like you're on mind, don't you worried? Okay? Friends,

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<v Speaker 2>So as always we're going to start. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 2>the drama someone's like, you know how on your clotureans

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<v Speaker 2>list or your culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Because my God that I swear the way that the

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<v Speaker 1>world wants.

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<v Speaker 2>Us to the great, great great literally as always gonna

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<v Speaker 2>show you by giving our flowers to our girl, Miss

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<v Speaker 2>Tisha Kim and are still here segment and this one

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<v Speaker 2>asked a question that I know a lot of us

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<v Speaker 2>are considering. That's all that the law of us are considering,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with all that timing around us. Some of us

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<v Speaker 2>and I know you mentioned this Sean Pride month and

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<v Speaker 2>now we feel as prideful.

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<v Speaker 3>As it once did in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that being said, I'd love to ask you whether

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<v Speaker 2>you're bad, what did you take from last month, and

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<v Speaker 2>how do you plan to keep the pride alive? I

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear your thoughts person, and then I'll share.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, you know, so I have said this in

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<v Speaker 1>so many different iterations and shout out to a couple

0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of friends. You know, my friend a Niche had posted

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<v Speaker 1>a really long story slash reel about ways that and

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<v Speaker 1>then that's kind of what inspired to So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure I give credit where credit is due.

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<v Speaker 1>A Niche, for those of you who don't know, is

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<v Speaker 1>a social media I think they are Middle Eastrian and

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<v Speaker 1>they post a lot of different things about being queer

0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.720
<v Speaker 1>and being Middle Eastern, and so this came up. They

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<v Speaker 1>were basically saying that for them, pride didn't feel the

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<v Speaker 1>same this year, but they they were doing their best

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that even though they're leaving, they're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of leaving pride behind, that they're still feeling like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still here. And so I know this question I put

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<v Speaker 1>that this question is loaded for me because I knew

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<v Speaker 1>going into the month that I was going to feel

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<v Speaker 1>a certain type of way. And I say that because

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<v Speaker 1>my feeling is they're I feel like we only have

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<v Speaker 1>like four or five queer people who ever get celebrated

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<v Speaker 1>in the month, that they're the only people that we

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<v Speaker 1>see everywhere. I'm just being honest, I'm just being real.

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<v Speaker 1>We only see four or five of the same queer people,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically queer black people who are getting opportunities, are getting

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<v Speaker 1>notoriety or being celebrated for their work. And should they

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<v Speaker 1>be celebrated for the work. Yes. What I'm saying is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that these companies and these corporations,

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<v Speaker 1>because they've seen these faces and they know these faces

0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.400
<v Speaker 1>are quote unquote safe, they continue to keep going back

0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:56.280
<v Speaker 1>to them. And so there was that, and I kept

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<v Speaker 1>thinking to myself, like, I don't want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>negative Nancy, but I think this. It just reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>the entire month. I just kept saying how performative all

0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.319
<v Speaker 1>of these months have become. It's not just Pride, It's

0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:12.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's Black History Month, it's LATINX History Month, it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Native American history. But all of these different

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<v Speaker 1>months that we're supposed to be celebrating. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say the drama, celebrating the stuff that makes us

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<v Speaker 1>who we are, the stuff that we've been through, the

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<v Speaker 1>things that we've overcome. It has now become such a

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<v Speaker 1>performative thing. And so the fact that it just it,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I left this month feeling very very irket

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, I had to really tell myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, the ways that I'm going And in

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<v Speaker 1>order for me not to go into July aucceptin bro

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<v Speaker 1>October being irritated, I think it's going to be for

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<v Speaker 1>me to be able to celebrate the idea that we

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<v Speaker 1>are and I say we collectively meaning me, you and

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<v Speaker 1>many other LGBTQ people of color, specifically black folks. We're

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<v Speaker 1>living out loud, and I think celebrating like our work, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like so this idea that like I have this book,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can celebrate that we have this amazing podcast

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<v Speaker 1>that's being noted, still getting notoriety after five, you know,

0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.480
<v Speaker 1>four or five years being on the air. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that there are articles that people are still

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<v Speaker 1>referring to either be your articles or my articles or

0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:21.280
<v Speaker 1>other black queer people's articles, right, Like, there's this idea

0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that we can say fuck the performative and that we

0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.880
<v Speaker 1>get to live and be seen out loud through our work,

0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.360
<v Speaker 1>but also through just being Like I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing for me. It's this idea that just being here

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<v Speaker 1>and living in the intersections of all the stuff that

0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.320
<v Speaker 1>we have to deal with, but also the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>like us being who we are beyond the month, like

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<v Speaker 1>that that reminds me to keep showing up, and it

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<v Speaker 1>keeps reminding me that I don't have to wait for

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<v Speaker 1>like a brand or a person or a place to

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<v Speaker 1>like celebrate me just in the month of June. Right. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's kind of the thing I've been thinking a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about, is this idea of like, how do how

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<v Speaker 1>do I continue to celebrate me and celebrate what we

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<v Speaker 1>do and what we've been doing after June thirtieth. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of how I want to keep the pride going.

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<v Speaker 2>It Really I appreciate you saying that because to me,

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<v Speaker 2>this past year definitely underlined how for many brands and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like anything connection between between the government and brands, right, Like, yeah,

0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:31.200
<v Speaker 2>underscores capitalism that like not like like capitalism, and that

0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.480
<v Speaker 2>capitalism and like brands felt better to do more pride

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and under a different federal government because now the

0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:43.000
<v Speaker 2>incentives to do stuff are much less. Their investment in

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<v Speaker 2>that there's also much less because like we can't get

0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.880
<v Speaker 2>we can't get you know, tax breaks or whatever if

0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.360
<v Speaker 2>we you know, for this now or like or or

0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.040
<v Speaker 2>they're it's like or like if we do that, it's

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<v Speaker 2>to DEI and so they might come for us next.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes just makes me sad that I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>so you actually like you actually don't love us, and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you never never did, right like they've never

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<v Speaker 2>did in some way, So we understand that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I every she named all this because pride does

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<v Speaker 2>feel very very probably felt different this year in some ways,

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<v Speaker 2>and it came by so fast. I also think that

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<v Speaker 2>like everything in America right now just feels like it's regressing.

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<v Speaker 2>So nothing is good right now, like nothing feels helpful

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<v Speaker 2>or supportive for us. And so I think it also

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<v Speaker 2>was hard to celebrate on a national level, Like a

0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.440
<v Speaker 2>national level is challenging. I think in a local level,

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<v Speaker 2>it has been different, right Like I like I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>like I've seen like I've seen people do celebrity on

0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.560
<v Speaker 2>local levels really out loud and really like like like likely,

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<v Speaker 2>like when I was in Francisco during Prime Month, like

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, like I know people like really

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<v Speaker 2>loving and living right now, and that was really nicely.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, like every people go around every weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, people go around every weekend endo the trans March,

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<v Speaker 2>the transmart and then the People's March, Like I know,

0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:00.000
<v Speaker 2>people shut up for that. So I think locally, especially

0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe even California. Right in California, maybe people people are

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<v Speaker 2>living a little bit differently right in other parts of

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<v Speaker 2>the country.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I think for me, how to being prayer alive?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, July Pride month in San Diego, so we

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<v Speaker 2>got none of the pride already, and then we then

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<v Speaker 2>in August we're doing our Black Pride Festival.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen, So I got a whole quarter of pride, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a whole quarter three months. Probably honestly, afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>I might be like, yeah, I'MMB pride. This is I'm exhausted.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm exhausted.

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<v Speaker 4>Pride.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's like you know, I I think I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's staying alive in some ways because we're really

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<v Speaker 2>like I think in some ways it's like a stronger

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<v Speaker 2>commitment to your point living out loud because we know

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<v Speaker 2>that we're know that the people in charge of empower

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<v Speaker 2>above us are trying to erase us, and so we're like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's actually like let's not allowed in general, but let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's say, let's like live harder than ever before because

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<v Speaker 2>like they won't be able to be able to erase us. Yeah,

0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:14.600
<v Speaker 2>and then I also have some thoughts about but I'll

0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.880
<v Speaker 2>say I'll save the rest of my thoughts have a

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<v Speaker 2>little rant about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, Okay, okay, good. I love when we have And

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<v Speaker 1>I will also say this, like, I love this episode

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<v Speaker 1>is just us because I feel like we have the

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<v Speaker 1>space and the time to really kind of like go off.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's why there's a lot that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say too, And so I'm kind of like, let

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<v Speaker 1>me just go ahead and I'll hope that for our

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<v Speaker 1>last second.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like when it's just us two on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the mic because we don't really have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about because you know, our guests, they'd be like, oh

0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:51.440
<v Speaker 1>lord Jesus, these people look crazy. So it'll be really

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<v Speaker 1>good for us to be able to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Off, all right, well, fam another to let the world

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<v Speaker 2>know that we are here and we are in fact queer,

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<v Speaker 2>and that we don't still don't let the taste of beer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>go take a quick break and come back with this

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<v Speaker 2>week's category more in just a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, All right, Charle, and we are back. So it

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<v Speaker 1>has been a minute since we have done kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a movie breakdown. We've done a couple of different films.

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<v Speaker 1>We did the Renaissance film. We did a film very

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<v Speaker 1>very very very early, and when we first started the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I figured that we take it back, oh

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<v Speaker 1>the way back, and we do kind of the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing all things consider that, you know, stuff feels heavy

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. I know people probably think that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to come to the mic and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>just talk about all the stuff that's happening in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, we will touch on that a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, let's do something that's kind of light, funished,

0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.359
<v Speaker 1>but also still has a very kind of like deep

0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.840
<v Speaker 1>sentiment or something important for us to look at. And

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<v Speaker 1>so this week we are going to talk about that film. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we are talking about Sinners. We have not talked about sinners.

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<v Speaker 1>I ultimately have kind of stayed away from talking about

0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Centers because truly I wanted people to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>see it. I wanted people to be able to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like see it make their own kind of decisions

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<v Speaker 1>about how they feel about the film before we break

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<v Speaker 1>it down. And considering that it is getting ready to

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<v Speaker 1>head over to streaming I think as of today, so

0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.919
<v Speaker 1>we're actually recording on the fourth. So for those of you,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time you hear this, it'll actually be it

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<v Speaker 1>will have been out for a couple of days. You

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<v Speaker 1>can I think it's on streaming on Max. You can

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<v Speaker 1>go to Max. Yeah, and you can watch it there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>HBO Max. I should be very clear about that because

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<v Speaker 1>they just changed their name again and we appreciate it. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people have the right to call themselves what

0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.359
<v Speaker 1>they want to call themselves. And so with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>HBO Max and I. What I also know Slash heard

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<v Speaker 1>is that there is an actual black ASL version too.

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<v Speaker 1>So those of you who yeah, for those who may

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<v Speaker 1>have family members, are people in your circle who are

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<v Speaker 1>our I think it's I want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>I say it the right way. Death or hard of

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<v Speaker 1>hearing they ultimately can go on and watch the film

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<v Speaker 1>in ASL as well as in black ASL, which I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that Ryan Coogler knew ASL. So that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>really really cool to know that that's something he was

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<v Speaker 1>intentional about with this film coming out to streaming. So

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<v Speaker 1>with that being said, we are going to talk about

0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the film, but we're not going to directly talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the film in the ways that other people may have

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<v Speaker 1>talked may talk about the film, or in our traditional

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<v Speaker 1>journalistic way. We're not going to do like a traditional review,

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<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense. What I really wanted to dive

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<v Speaker 1>into is, you know, I've watched the film maybe three

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<v Speaker 1>or four times. Actually I think I've watched it maybe

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<v Speaker 1>more than four times at this point. And yeah, oddly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>I really when I first watched it, I was like eh,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I watched it again and I was like, oh,

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.119
<v Speaker 1>this film is actually a little bit deeper than what

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<v Speaker 1>I like what I initially watched it. For the third time.

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<v Speaker 1>When I watched that, I was watching it just purely

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:05.840
<v Speaker 1>on cinematography and the colors and trying to understand what

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 1>decisions Ryan was making as a as a director in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of like a DP style, and then I think

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth time that I've watched it, it was just

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to watch it because I just I thought

0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 1>it was a great film, and I wanted to watch

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<v Speaker 1>it again. So that being said, I wanted to dive

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<v Speaker 1>into a conversation about what the film says about who

0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 1>we let into our lives, specifically now, and why BFF

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be cautious about the white gaze, And what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean is that it's a double Ontandra Honey talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the gaze gaze and then also the white gaze

0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>days and again, this is not I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>this very clear that this conversation is not a direct

0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 1>attack on anybody, but I think there is a I

0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:53.880
<v Speaker 1>think it's a it's more of a conversation about queer culture,

0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and specifically queer white culture, and the ways that we

0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:01.800
<v Speaker 1>as black fat films off in times kind of just

0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 1>let that culture kind of like move around us, and

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.119
<v Speaker 1>we don't check it. We don't, we don't seem to,

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 1>we don't engage it as much as we probably and

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense, right, So I wanted us to

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of look at it from the frame or from

0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:18.119
<v Speaker 1>the lands of centers and really thinking about how the

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.399
<v Speaker 1>two kind of coalesced. So with that being said, I

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.879
<v Speaker 1>wanted to first ask you, Joho, now that it has

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<v Speaker 1>been a few months since you've seen the film, is

0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:29.639
<v Speaker 1>there anything that has really stuck out for you? I know,

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 1>for me, one of the things that really jumped out

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.399
<v Speaker 1>at me after like processing the film is the idea

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that there are so many of us who are thirsty

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 1>for belonging and wanting to be seen and loved, and

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.560
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes we fall into the wrong circles. And I

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 1>think a lot back to like when I was in

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>college specifically, and I was thinking a lot about how,

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 1>like I thought being a club kid was going to

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:55.680
<v Speaker 1>be the thing that brought me the you know, oh,

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 1>if I go to the club all the time, and

0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 1>if I'm always partying, if I'm always if I'm always

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 1>out there with the dolls, right, that's the community. That's

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.639
<v Speaker 1>the thing that's going to bring me the clarity that

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I need or the thing I wanted. And I was

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:11.439
<v Speaker 1>thinking a lot about what is her name? Mary? I

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>was thinking the whole this entire segment. As I was

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.639
<v Speaker 1>putting the segment together, I was thinking a lot about

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Mary and about this idea of like how you it's

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>almost it's not talked about, but it's almost kind of like,

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 1>we know Mary doesn't really know her identity that well,

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and and and she's looking at, you know, these these

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.400
<v Speaker 1>twin brothers to kind of be her her her beacon

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:37.640
<v Speaker 1>of of of access to understanding herself better and how

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that basically screws her over in the end. So that

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>was one of the things I thought a lot about

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>with that, and I would love to know your thoughts

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>on that as well.

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Living on my breading glasses because scholar, Okay, that's m h.

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 2>The first half of the show, Girl, I was just

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I was just vibes, working on vibes, Thank God, Thank God,

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 2>think God, I know my cues in my lines because

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:13.679
<v Speaker 2>God the ship. So I love her thought so much,

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 2>and I honestly do even think about it until this moment,

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:19.199
<v Speaker 2>like the to let me in peace, right, because like

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 2>I love to you from because in the movie it's

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>like it's about it's about manipulation, trying to take advantage

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 2>of someone that you feel is weaker than you by

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 2>manipulating them to do something you want. But like it's

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 2>under the guy's a fellowship, which I think is really

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:35.199
<v Speaker 2>interesting and like in some cases, I feel like, so

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I won't watch the movie once, but I think about

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot. Actually I had a lot of debates the

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 2>people about why I thought was such a fantastic film.

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 2>And you had the idea of vampires also just in

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Tuca's vampires are just as like blood sucking creatures blah

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.440
<v Speaker 2>blah blah. But like in this film and and many

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 2>like in many actually lower vampires, right, Like there is

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:59.119
<v Speaker 2>this idea fellowship like you you turn people like you.

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.439
<v Speaker 2>You don't just kill me, You turn them because you

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 2>want to build. You want to build this like commune

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 2>commune up of vampires. And so I think it's like

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 2>sometimes like I think, like we're willing. I wonder are

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.880
<v Speaker 2>we willing to be just somempowered to feel belonging?

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Right, like do we allow you?

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Are we willing to say I relinquished my power and

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 2>my dad so I can fel belonging. But that isn't

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 2>actually belonging right like that like that is that is

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 2>just control? And how many times right in social constructs

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>or government are are are we made to feel disempowered?

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 2>And or do we give up our freedom of agency

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 2>to belong somewhere I feel like we belong somewhere, right,

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 2>like you talking about.

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 3>How you're like like like like I should be a

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 3>club kid.

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Right, It's like you giving a part of yourself to

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 2>say I'm gonna get I'm gonna give myself to this,

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 2>to this piece of life so I can belong. But

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 2>like it's actually it's also rejecting a different part of

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you as well too, just club kid. And so I

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:04.679
<v Speaker 2>think that's really that's that's that's interesting. I think a

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 2>lot about the character Grace, one of the shopkeepers, Grace,

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Chinese American couple, because like this is

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 2>such a metaphor of the white gays, right, Like the

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 2>choice that Grace has to make to go between the

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>white store and the non white store, her demeanor has

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 2>to change, you know, it leaves me no wonder which

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 2>one's the real one for her? Does she feel like

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 2>herself in the white store? Does she feel like herself

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 2>in the non story? Because she had because she has

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>she has a little add to her. She has a little sass, right,

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>she has a little sass. She talks differently, you know,

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I asked often did she feel free at the juke joint? Right?

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 2>And also as a trans American at that moment in

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 2>time under the model minority myth?

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Could she ever askally feel free?

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Right? Sometimes? I think, and this is gonna a hot take.

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 2>The freeest choice she had was was inviting in the vampires. Yeah,

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 2>yea clear, I hate that, right, And I said, Grace,

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 2>why But that was her freest choice, right one, because

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 2>there they were about getting her daughter and she was like,

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not having that and she and she was like

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to like I'm not going to turn,

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to fight, right, and then killing her husband

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 2>and burning and this was where like say what she

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 2>wants about her choices, that's a bad bitch. She killed

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 2>her husband and then burned with him alive. She put

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 2>a steak in him, and she could have follow the vampire,

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>but I will say I was like gregy because if

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 2>you could have fought more people, she put a steak

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>in his heart and as he burned alive, and she

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 2>and she said she's and burned with him like like

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 2>like like like that is like like like that is wild, right,

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and right like that that was free will because you

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 2>would have me burdened with somebody like that where you

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>have hello, you I'm stop dropping and rolling immediately.

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna burn here. I'm gonna find these vampires,

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 3>she said.

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 2>She in some cases, I'm like, you are so annoying,

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Grace you lisaid, I'm gonna call them all and I'm like,

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take out one of them.

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 3>That's it. I've done my job, took out one of them.

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 3>There's not like no, this is not like fifty little.

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Bit more of them. But I really, like, I really

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, like this is probably like her most

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 2>free choice that she made was I'm gonna, I'm gonna

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna and I'm going to

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 2>like take my husband back in that way. I'm also like,

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 2>so what about your daughter, girl, because like what was

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>now like she had no parents, Like we're just we're

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 2>just gonna leave her behind. I also think a lot

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 2>about uh, I think a lot about the main the

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 2>main music scene where the music of the past and

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 2>present and future come to live.

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 3>That Okay, that scene.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's one of the greatest and amatic moments

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen in the film. Like, and that scene

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 2>is what makes a film and not a movie. That

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 2>is a film already, but that scene I thought was

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Chef's kiss Chef. I love that they like they like

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 2>they also like also they also infused traditional Chinese music

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>or like performance and Chinese performances that as well too,

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 2>to honor Gray Cimbo.

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 3>And that I like, that was just like it was

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 3>so good.

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's when I think about a lot

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>to that's that six was me because it also shows

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 2>up like music is also freedom. Really it is, and

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 2>like like like like like the like blues and itself

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 2>as a genre is like is like about like like

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>like aspiring for freedom in some ways. Yeah, so this

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>entirely they was just it was. It was gorgeous.

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 3>It was just all gorgeous.

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious to ask you what character did you you know,

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned Mary earlier. What character did you do the

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>most connection with. Was it was it her?

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was it was. I will say this, you know,

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I and again, there are parts of me that understands

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Sammy's plight, right, this idea of like living between two worlds, right,

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 1>and and that's also kind of you know, to to

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the notion of this this conversation. You know, Sammy was

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>very much in this mind of you know, I'm being

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>told to be this person you know here, but I

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>also want to be this person there, and I want,

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I want, and then I want to be my own person. Right,

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>we could we could see like there was this idea

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>of like who my father wants me to be, who

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>my cousins want me to be, and then there's who

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to be. But I really really vibed with

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the the undertone of Mary mary storyline from the moment

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>they introduced her. Right, there was the sense of longing

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>that I could, I could, I could pick up from

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>her and and and and I know some people would

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>be like why would you pick Mary out of all

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the people in that film? You know, I think even

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>with all the therapy I've done, all the self work

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I've done, the writing I've done, like everything that I've done,

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, obviously I wrote a whole fucking book

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>about it, I still revert back to this idea of

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>wanting people to want me or to like me. And

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what I got from Mary, right, Like

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>this idea of she knew it was who the names

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I know it was, it sticks and smoking, she was

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>with stack, right, Okay, I'm right okay, So yeah, so

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>this idea of like, she knows, she knows who Stacks is,

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>she knows what both you know, smoking Stack does. But

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>there's this idea of like, even with him doing her

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>so dirty, she's still is you know, she's willing to

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>in so many ways put her life in his hands.

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>So that way he can turn around and say, you know,

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I see it for you. I you know, I still

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 1>want you blah blah blah blah blah, even though he

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>really doesn't make it clear to her, like I mean,

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>there is no real There is no real you know,

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>as much as she's trying to push, he's pulling. And

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that's literally what I see in their entire relationship throughout

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the duration of of their time being quote unquote human.

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>And so for me, you know, I think a lot

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>about this idea of like, you know, even the wrong people,

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, sometimes we want the wrong people

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>to want us. And I often I'll say this on

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, on the air. I think about it. You know,

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the entertainment industry, right, Like, I know how awful the

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>industry is. I know how awful terrible people, you know,

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't I know how terrible people can be. In

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the industry, and there is still a longing for me

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>to say, oh, I want someone to buy my show,

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>or I want someone to see it for me, or

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I want someone to validate all of this work that

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I've done. And it's a cycle. It's a vicious cycle.

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>And so I think, you know, looking at Sinners, looking

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>at Mary as a character, looking at myself in the mirror,

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>really thinking about this idea of how you know, some

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>of us our love languages, is to be wanted, is

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to be you know, to be seen quote unquote, And

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I think when you are a queer person or when

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you are a marginalized person who's constantly at you know,

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the crux of different oppressions in different you know, margins

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>of things, right, it feels good, you know, when someone

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>finally quote unquote lets you in, Right, it feels good

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 1>to be like, oh, I'm finally in with the in crowd,

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>even when we know that that in crowd could potentially

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing I think most about, Like Mary

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>knew who smoke and stacks was, she knew what was

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>happening in that juke joint, and yes, she knew it

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be fun, and yes there was gonna be music,

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and there was gonna be all these things that were happening.

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>But there's still this element in the back of her

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>mind that she had to have thought something bad could

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>happen to me being in this bad company, right, Like

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>as much as smoke wasn't as bad as stack, there's

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>still this element of something bad could potentially happen to me.

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 1>And so I think that was something I thought a

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.879
<v Speaker 1>lot about of, like how so many of us are

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 1>so willing to put ourselves in bad situations with bad people,

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.760
<v Speaker 1>is so that way we can be quote unquote accepted,

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 1>if that makes.

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Sense, you know. So I so like I so, I

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 2>really I think it's interesting to that because I think

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 2>I saw as she knows something that can happen to them,

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 2>like I saw as like she knows something that could

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 2>happen to them as she goes, because she passes so much.

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 2>And I think like and I think like like like

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot of folks love to hate Mary and I

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 2>and I and I and I understand, Yeah, I get

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 2>it too, But I do find her interest. I do

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 2>find her interesting too, because I think like, like I think,

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.359
<v Speaker 2>to me, like her complexity is that like she wants

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 2>in which she can feel like she can feel her

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:41.240
<v Speaker 2>blackness more and like and like she's willing to announce

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 2>her whiteness to do it, Like she was willing to

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 2>announce her whiteness when she was with when she was

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 2>with Stacks, to do it. But he pulled away because

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 2>he because he because he because he was like girl,

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 2>work from two different worlds, like like like like they

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>see me and you like they won't see that your

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 2>grandfather is bi racial girl like like operating off a

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 2>one drop a little bit, which is like which could

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 2>be probabotic in some ways, right, especially that time period,

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 2>but like but like but like she she even says it,

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 2>like she does she doesn't feel so connected to her whiteness,

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, and and and she's mad Stacks because she's

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:23.479
<v Speaker 2>mad Stacks because he missed he missed her mom's funeral. Funeral, yeah,

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 2>and and and she loved her mom one but also

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 2>I imagine her mom, but I imagine her mom was

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 2>also was her mom also white or maybe her mom

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.720
<v Speaker 2>that's what it is, biracial? Like and like her mom

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 2>like loves her embrace Stacks so much as well, and

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 2>so like and so and so I think I.

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 5>Think par part of her is like like, like you

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 5>didn't want to be with me because you were so

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 5>afraid of what the world would not think of this,

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 5>But like my mom loved you and.

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 3>You didn't want you can even show up for her

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:54.800
<v Speaker 3>and her be and my grief.

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 2>But like, but but I still want to because I

0:36:57.560 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 2>love you, but all but like but also like I

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 2>want to be Like I think I think he sees

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 2>as like you can't be in my world because it's

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 2>dangerous for you, and she and she and she's like,

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a fuck, like I want to be

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 2>part like part of your world aerial, you know. And

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 2>so it's like I think like like I like, I

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>think I do think she. I do think she's selfish

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 2>in this way she says, I'm gonna go do this anyways,

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 2>knowing that it could be.

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>A bad look for that it could blow up.

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she's unsafe because I I think she

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 2>she actually feels safe with them, right, Like she feels safe,

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 2>she feel safe with them, but like I, at least

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I say for with them, she does she feels uncomfortable

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 2>because it's like not her element typically, but she has

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 2>to live. But I but I but I think she

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:43.919
<v Speaker 2>doesn't recognize that it makes them actually more unsafe because

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>because if the clans people come and see her there

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 2>there should be right, yeah, should be right and there

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 2>should there should should shoot up the place more right

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>because then like you know, the like you have the

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 2>guard with the guard right cornbread the guard Yeah, like

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 2>who was happy to see her? And it's like, you know,

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 2>like I'm sorry, I I could make the funeral, but

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:03.879
<v Speaker 2>the undertone is like I couldn't make a girl because

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I was out in the fields working.

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 3>The privilege that you have of.

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Like to be able to just come and go mm hmmm.

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, like and which is I think you're also also

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.359
<v Speaker 2>your point of being like like let me in, Like

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 2>she gets the privilege of walking between both roads in

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 2>some way and and and others can't be let in.

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 2>And I think, and I wonder sometimes if if stats

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 2>was like if I'm with you, I always be at

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the door, but I can't come in the house. She can,

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 2>like she she can, she can, but she doesn't feel belonging,

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 2>right because because it could like like because like like

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 2>there's that moment, there's that moment where I think the

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 2>vampire is there and they like and they they imply

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 2>like why is she there?

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, like why are you there?

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Like why did you get in?

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 2>And she implies like these are my people, and so

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 2>it's like like so she's she's fighting to be seen,

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.399
<v Speaker 2>but she doesn't unders hand the risk put everybody else.

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 3>In by by doing that.

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 2>And that's definitely I definitely like, I definitely don't. I

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>definitely don't don't like that. And you know, like and

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 2>and I think you're right about the wrong people because

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 2>I think, like I think that like what makes Stacks

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 2>wrong for her it is that like he is engaging

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 2>and like in like that he's engaging and like them

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 2>not consch activity and so and and and and so

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:28.839
<v Speaker 2>it's like the wrong person because it won't be good

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 2>for her, but also it will engage him more and

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 2>she and she would she would rather, I mean, so

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 2>it's like something and that's also why Stacks pushed back, right,

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:37.839
<v Speaker 2>That's why you pull back from her. And there's that

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.839
<v Speaker 2>scene where there's that scene where he's like, we don't

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 2>mean to say like like like like that I don't

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:46.919
<v Speaker 2>care about you like that you want to think about

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>you every day, like like like I think like you said.

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you want from me?

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:53.399
<v Speaker 3>From men?

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, but ill to say at the

0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 2>very least heaviest Steinfeld gave me the line you can

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 2>rob a bank, but you can't steal this. And I said,

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 2>know what, I've never heard a real live and this

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 2>a realer lit hasband said I live.

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 3>I said, that is crazy, but you can't.

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I still would love to title this episode, but I

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 1>know it's.

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 2>A wild I think and I and I think I personally,

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I do feel I also feel connected to Sami as

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 2>well too, because exactly what exactly what you said, Like

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>he's the boy who wants more for her, for himself

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 2>and his life, but he's fighting what those around him

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 2>want him to do and want for him. So face

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 2>find the pressure of obligation to stay where he's at,

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 2>the pressure of obligation to impress his cousins and make

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 2>them happy and do what they want.

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 3>But you know, like all he wants me just to

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 3>play music.

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 2>So he wants to sing, like he wants to bring

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 2>his little a little instrument and play and and and

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 2>play place. That's an instrument that I don't know, I

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 2>don't know what it is. That's like his instrument Okay,

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 2>he wants to play this little string, his little strings.

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I like, I think I think it's a band.

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a band.

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with.

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 3>That's what AL want to do.

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want to do right, but like everyone wants

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 2>to be in a direction. And I think that's why

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I connected with him, because I I am always struggling

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:27.399
<v Speaker 2>between obligation to others and obligation to myself, and she's

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 2>what I want. I'm choosing like the best decision for me,

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.839
<v Speaker 2>and like right, like like you like, I think like

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Mary and Sammuy are two different foils because like Mary,

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 2>she's just to be selfish in a world that that

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 2>will always like that will always for everything. And Sammy,

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 2>she's gonna selfish word that gives him nothing right, right,

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 2>And so it's it's like it's like herself just comes

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 2>out of prize of others. Himself is just is totally

0:41:54.080 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 2>for solely for himself, and that's a different thing. So yeah, okay, sorry, I'm.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 3>More more thoughts than I thought I had in that.

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 1>That was like, no, it's fine, it's not that's what

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>this is for, honey.

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 3>So now I'm gonna go here.

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 2>It might be a little spicy. I'm interested to know

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on the idea of Cougar's commentary of needing

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 2>to be safe around white around white folks, right, like

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:20.839
<v Speaker 2>you see different times where characters strive to be safe.

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.240
<v Speaker 3>And how that might translate into our own lives.

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:25.919
<v Speaker 2>Do know how much time we spend around white folks

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 2>in our spending around white folks in our jobs and

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 2>our personal lives?

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Mmm mm hmm. Yeah, So I guns Blaze and Honey,

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think this is a really great and

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 1>this is why I love doing this show with you,

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 1>because I think these conversations, you know, I I don't

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't feel safe to have these conversations with everybody,

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>And I always do feel very safe enough to be

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of engage these conversations with you, with

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>you specifically because I feel like you're not looking for aha,

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.080
<v Speaker 1>got you moment When we when we talk about stuff

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>like this, it's a very nuanced conversation of like we

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 1>can talk truth, we can laugh about how fucked up

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this stuff is, and then we can

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>also really talk about like what it is. And so

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, like I I just before I

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>even give my response, I definitely want to say, I

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you, you know, in unmited holding space for me

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>to be able to kind of have these nuanced conversations

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>like this right about how we how we see the world.

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>So I just want to give you your roses on

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the air. Funny enough, as I was responding to this

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>thought that you put on the dog, you know, I

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 1>was holding my breath as I was responding because I knew,

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>like I knew what I wanted to say. But I

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 1>also want to make sure that I offer care and

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of what I say specifically knowing that I

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.280
<v Speaker 1>do have a lot of white people that I truly

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 1>do care about in my life, right my partner being

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 1>one of them, you know, my manager being another one.

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I have a couple of other you know, white friends

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that I genuinely believe are really great people and are

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:11.280
<v Speaker 1>their energy. Their energy is always we have to protect

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you and what i'm you meaning queer people, black people,

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:16.759
<v Speaker 1>like we have to keep you safe, right, And so

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I I want to say off the top, like this

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>is not a direct shot at them, but I will

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 1>say this that this film and and as I've and

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I've threaded about it, right, it is a great conversation

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.479
<v Speaker 1>or a great expos a I should say on how

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.760
<v Speaker 1>important it is for us to be honest with ourselves

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 1>about the white folks that we have in our lives.

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 1>And what I what I mean by that is by

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>saying like, I think there's a lot of us, especially now,

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and I love that we waited to kind that I

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>waited to give this response now before because of what

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about earlier in the show. We're in

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:55.240
<v Speaker 1>a place now where we have there are multiple reasons

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 1>why we are where we are in this country period,

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>right the but I think a big part of it,

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:05.399
<v Speaker 1>right so, so we can talk about how selfish white

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 1>people have been, We can talk about how you know,

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>white people are only ever really invested in their own

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>best interest. We can talk for days about you know,

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>all the things. You know, Oh, it's just they've been

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 1>oppressive by nature. But I think a lot of it

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 1>also is we as black people, as brown people, we

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 1>let white people get away with a lot of stuff

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:28.239
<v Speaker 1>around us. And I think that's the thing that I

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>think we really need to kind of like address. And

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:33.879
<v Speaker 1>so what I mean by that is, you know, mine

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 1>included is that I believe there are good white people,

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and what I and what and I you know, all

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 1>both sides. They're terrible black people just as much as

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>they're terrible white people. Yes, there are white there are

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 1>black people who voted for Trump and all of that, right,

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 1>But what I mean by that is is that you know,

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 1>there are moments where I see white privilege seep out

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.320
<v Speaker 1>in the white folks that I have in my life,

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and I have to make that active decision. Am I

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>going to fuck up the inner in this room because

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm calling out the thing that they just said or

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>did that bothers me? Or am I just gonna let

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 1>it slide? And I think a lot of us, especially

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>in queer spaces too, right, because you think, right, I

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>have to fight all of these years to get into

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:16.319
<v Speaker 1>a space to where I can finally feel like I'm

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>safe here, I'm comfortable here, or that I have my

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:21.399
<v Speaker 1>people here, and then this white gay or this white

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 1>queer person that you think you trust says or does

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 1>something that's problematic. Now you're like, fuck, do I fuck

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>up the relationship that I have with them by calling

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>them out because they may misunderstand me, or they may

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 1>feel attacked or all of these different things. But I

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 1>think that there's something to be said here about this

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 1>idea of we have to be willing and responsible and held,

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.799
<v Speaker 1>we have to hold people accountable and so regardless of

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 1>who it is in our lives, right, whether it be

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>black people or to be white people. And so I think,

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, my bottom line, and what I'm really trying

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>to say is that, like you have to ask yourself,

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:57.799
<v Speaker 1>what do these relationships bring me? And what might they

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>take away? In the case of Stacks, right, So, you know,

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't want to. You know, there's there's

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 1>so there's so many dynamics between Mary and Stacks and

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 1>that whole you know, Mary running out and then you know,

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 1>getting attacked and then coming back in and basically being

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:18.240
<v Speaker 1>the reason why the entire operation falls apart, right because

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.799
<v Speaker 1>it starts with Mary. There's a lot that we can

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>talk about around that, right, But I think that there's

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 1>something that needs to be had around what we take

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 1>away from the relationships we have with people who don't

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:33.479
<v Speaker 1>share the same identities that we have. I think that's

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the thing I really walk away from with Sinners. There

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:39.399
<v Speaker 1>are so many other things, but that's something that has

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:42.240
<v Speaker 1>really been sitting with me, right is you know why?

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Why is there? I'll say this and then I'll shut up.

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm talking a lot. I often wonder

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.759
<v Speaker 1>why there are so many black and brown folks who

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.800
<v Speaker 1>really want to be in a space full of nothing

0:47:56.880 --> 0:48:00.720
<v Speaker 1>but white people. That's something I think think a lot about.

0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And then I also think a lot about why are

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>there so many white people who want to be in

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 1>spaces with nothing but black people? And we hear this,

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>right why you know? Well, why is? Why do black

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>people need their own space? Nikka? Why do you want

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 1>to be in a space full of black people? You like,

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 1>you have your own spaces where you need to be.

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:21.839
<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't want to be in my space. Right, That's

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:23.920
<v Speaker 1>a privileged thing. You want to take up my space

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>because you everything, you want everything to feel. So so

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm on a soap box here, But

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like I think there's something to be

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>said about the ways and the relationships and the spaces.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? I make am I making sense?

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I think like like like there's so many thoughts with

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 2>this because like like I'm trying to try to remember,

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 2>like because Mary went out because she was like, I'll

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:53.359
<v Speaker 2>talk to them, right because I'll be the to them

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 2>because like I'm one of them, right, yes, you know,

0:48:55.760 --> 0:49:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I get them, I get them, I get them. Her

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 2>dumb ass turned her back and that and and then

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 2>then she got got which was so like and like

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 2>and like and like and right. She's she's trying to

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:10.839
<v Speaker 2>wield her whiteness to be a good thing to help.

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't help girl all the time the time. This is

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 2>not a girl. You're ruined, ruin. Then you said let

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 2>me in the house and they said you're Mary, and

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 2>then you can. Then then you fucking killed. Then you

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 2>kill your man Dieball who worked that all who work

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I do like I you know, I and like and

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and I agree like they are, Like I totally hear

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:42.800
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying, because I think it is suspect if

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 2>non block folks want to be in black spaces, like

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I just think I think it's suspect because you can't

0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 2>build an entire country off of seconding.

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Does you? You? You mama? Who was now why you

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 1>gotta come why you got to eggs to come in now?

0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:05.239
<v Speaker 2>And oh hell yes, hell yes, hell yes. Any from

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 2>jump said something is not right, girls, something's not right

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:11.920
<v Speaker 2>and the way the way she oh, justice for my

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.680
<v Speaker 2>girl Annie, because no one listened to her. She was like,

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 2>she said, y'all need to ask questions. Y'all asked the

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 2>quick questions, y'all. Why she why do y'all asked to

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 2>come in? Why you can't walk in yourself? I think

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I think you're good? Would you think, she said? She says, no,

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 2>let me get some growling for you. Look at some

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 2>woman juice splashing the face. Oh oh, you can't come in,

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 2>bit chuck into a van. But that's why I thought

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 2>she has everyone. She literally she gave. She said, y'all

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 2>have one job. Don't let them in that. Don't let

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 2>me tonight, just survive and tell. But and again, then

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:49.320
<v Speaker 2>that bitch Grace had to say come in and literally

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 2>if like like, I don't like again her character I

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 2>think is so interesting to me.

0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:54.920
<v Speaker 3>But lovingly I would kill her.

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I would have definitely had to die.

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:00.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, chopped the throat with will like if I'm

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:03.360
<v Speaker 2>not moving girl, and I'm Annie, girl, you're bestie, but

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 2>you gotta go. Nope, you said, you said nope, Grace,

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 2>And I saw I saw her slipping. I saw her

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 2>slipping and if it was it was me, I've been like,

0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, girl, but I I gotta get you now

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 2>while I still can, like because I.

0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:20.239
<v Speaker 3>See you sleeping in into hell right now, just trash.

0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:22.320
<v Speaker 2>But like I was saying, I do, like, yes, I

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:24.400
<v Speaker 2>think it is sus when when when when like I

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 2>mean I think it's sus when like I think it's

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:29.399
<v Speaker 2>sus when like like like when non blackfosts want want

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:31.359
<v Speaker 2>to be in back post stuff like so badly right,

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 2>like for example, like I like one thing about law

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 2>is obviously I said, I know where I am helping

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 2>plan we're playing Black Pride and the festival, and you know,

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:41.880
<v Speaker 2>like like and I have a lot of like non

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 2>black friends who are like can I come?

0:51:43.680 --> 0:51:44.439
<v Speaker 3>Like it was not okay?

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 2>And I appretire I'm asking right and like and like

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 2>like like one legally we can't say no, but also

0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 2>like but also yes, our festival is like for everyone

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:54.759
<v Speaker 2>and everyone to come to as long as you're okay

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.400
<v Speaker 2>with like them centering blackness, right, but like you know,

0:51:57.840 --> 0:51:59.439
<v Speaker 2>I apprecion that they asked, like is there a purple

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:02.400
<v Speaker 2>that I come? Because that diamonds are mindful of like

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:04.720
<v Speaker 2>they're not trying they're not like saying that, they're not trying.

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:07.280
<v Speaker 1>To be about they're not trying to take off space business.

0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 3>They're like, you know, let me you tell me they

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 3>can do it. Versions there are folks who are like.

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Who are all who are all who are all about business?

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Like what like why do you why is you here?

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Why is you here?

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Like why you need to be doing what I'm doing this?

0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Like yes, I think I think you make persons and

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 2>like and it's a privileg's white privilege, right, It's like yeah,

0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:31.040
<v Speaker 2>but privilege is it's white dominance right, Like it's it's

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 2>it's it's all systems of dominance. Two to be like

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to be like I want to be in

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 2>your business, right, you know, I think it's like like

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 2>like the same way like the there's a whole point

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:44.879
<v Speaker 2>with like like with the whole group of white folks

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:47.320
<v Speaker 2>and they're they're all subs. They're they're like they're like

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 2>the you know, the empire. They're like, why do you

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:50.600
<v Speaker 2>want to come in here? He's like all the music

0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:55.239
<v Speaker 2>just sounds great, and they're like, I mean, yeah, it's great,

0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 2>but like you can all way out here for that, right?

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah's I want fellowship.

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Jerl you could do that somewhere else.

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm right, it's the it's the what nineteen forties? What? Why?

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Why do I let you? Why am I? Why am

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I gonna let you.

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Join?

0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 2>You can go followship anywhere else you want followship?

0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Go away? Please go away? Yeah, no, you're you're You're

0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 1>so right. And I think you know, I will say this,

0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Christ you can cut this out. We are literally almost

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 1>at an hour talking about this film, so obviously like this,

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:40.160
<v Speaker 1>this literally means like this is such a great film

0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:45.280
<v Speaker 1>that we keep here's it. Yeah, I really do too, because,

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:47.800
<v Speaker 1>like I said, when when I genuinely thought it was

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:49.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be over hyped, and like I said, when I

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:52.880
<v Speaker 1>first watched it, I watched it, you know, just for

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 1>the oh it's a film, And then I watched it

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:58.399
<v Speaker 1>again from like the creative lens, and I was like, Wow,

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>this film is actually a lot deeper burn than what

0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:04.800
<v Speaker 1>people what people really let on. And so I I

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 1>really do I do want to say, like I hope

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Ryan hears this. I hope, actually, you know what, Chris

0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:12.960
<v Speaker 1>keep all of this in. I do hope that Ryan

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 1>gets you know, someone puts it in his ears that

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:18.359
<v Speaker 1>we over on the Black Fat Fem Podcast really saw

0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:20.920
<v Speaker 1>it for this film and took something really important for it.

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:25.120
<v Speaker 1>So with that being said, now that you have had

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to beg your auntie's cousins, uncles, sister's mama for a

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Max password to watch this movie, we are going to

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break and when we get back, we're

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:34.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna have more show.

0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, fan, we are black.

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:45.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's a few weeks ago and y'all seem

0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 2>to really like it, so we thought we'd bring it

0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:50.080
<v Speaker 2>back again today. But this week we're talking about what's

0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:52.640
<v Speaker 2>on our plate. We're calling it movie Edition, and we're

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 2>going through.

0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:54.799
<v Speaker 1>This week.

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 2>We're talking all things through your snacks and asked an

0:54:57.000 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 2>eight h old question, how do you like your popcorn?

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 2>And what's on top of that? Girl?

0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 1>You got so black?

0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:06.600
<v Speaker 2>It's we got questions, we got to answers. So let's

0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:08.800
<v Speaker 2>see you go down the list. What seasons do you

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:09.560
<v Speaker 2>have on popcorn?

0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:13.200
<v Speaker 1>My seasoning is so oh bitch okay, so let me

0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>let me put you on. My partner does this thing

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 1>where he will oh god, this is so fat. We

0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 1>will open the bag up and then we like we'll

0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:26.800
<v Speaker 1>actually like, we don't microwave it. We put it in

0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:29.319
<v Speaker 1>like a pan, and then we add a little bit

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:32.279
<v Speaker 1>more butter, and we add more Parmesian cheese to it.

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:39.359
<v Speaker 1>It's some garlic sauce. Bitch, take you to the moon.

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:43.160
<v Speaker 1>It is so good. That is literally when I'm at home,

0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>if I'm eating popcorn, that it's really the only way

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to eat it.

0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Do you bring your own spices to the theater? Because like,

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:51.919
<v Speaker 2>because that that's that's that's the level block. I'm trying

0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:53.440
<v Speaker 2>to get you everyone with spices.

0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Because I used to have, yeah.

0:55:57.120 --> 0:55:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Something, and I love the ones I do because I

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 2>will fuck up the parmesanmesan. Some limits of lemon pepper butter.

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I no lemon pepper popcorn girl, I love that.

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Ship girl, No, no, no. One time my friend had

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 2>about how broad. She bought her own little thing of butter,

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:15.360
<v Speaker 2>which to me out because I like the butter is

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:16.920
<v Speaker 2>And then she.

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Hold up paus she bought a thing of butter.

0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:22.840
<v Speaker 2>She bout her own little like melted down butter, and

0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:25.160
<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, that's so that's a wild girl.

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:29.400
<v Speaker 1>But she said butter, but what is it? Butter ingredients?

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:32.680
<v Speaker 2>He said that I want my pure natural butter, I said,

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.279
<v Speaker 2>go off girl that she had she had a little

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:36.279
<v Speaker 2>spice mix of loveon pepper.

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 3>That ship was delicious.

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Definitely ship.

0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love.

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I think I love like like I'm not a sweet

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.719
<v Speaker 2>popping girl. I want, I want, I want that ship

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:49.560
<v Speaker 2>to be like nice and spice. I something. I don't

0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.400
<v Speaker 2>pens like that normally, but it has all pins on

0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 2>popcorn with that too. I love it.

0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's not me. I will never be allowabes.

0:56:57.160 --> 0:56:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Not for me.

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Not for me, babes, Nope, not for me. Babe.

0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Do you have do you have a favorite movie candy?

0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not big candy girl, but if I do, you

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:07.480
<v Speaker 2>want candy, it will be probably Eminem's.

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Peanuts butterfingers, butterfingers, but you know it also was good.

0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:13.560
<v Speaker 1>If you really want to shake shit up, get you

0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:18.600
<v Speaker 1>a kid's popcorn combo and take those little Eminem's that

0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>they give you and mix it in with the popcorn.

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's the Chico right, that's the Checo.

0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, because you mixed the man and you get the

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:33.840
<v Speaker 1>sweet and you get the salty. The baby yes, yes,

0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that's a hat.

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:36.640
<v Speaker 2>That a hack. Okay, do you think anything?

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:39.800
<v Speaker 1>In so Growing up? I used to be that girls.

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I think a lot of it has

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to do with, like again, access and costs, right, I

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>mean money, right. So when we were growing up, it

0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:48.680
<v Speaker 1>was the idea of my mom saying, I'm not spending

0:57:49.480 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, twenty because movies, quiet as movies have always

0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:55.920
<v Speaker 1>been expensive, no matter, no matter when, no matter how

0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you think about it, movies have always been costly, even

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 1>when seven dollars was like, this was just seven dollars

0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 1>for a film. Seven dollars for a film was expensive

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>at that time. Yeah, So my mom was always like,

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not spending because it would be me, her, you know,

0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:09.600
<v Speaker 1>my cousins, we would all want to go. She's like,

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not spending fifty dollars for a movie and also

0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:14.880
<v Speaker 1>spending stuff, you know, on on popcorn and all that

0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:16.720
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. So we would sneak candy in, we would

0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:19.760
<v Speaker 1>sneak sometimes food in. My cousin was notorious for sneaking

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.800
<v Speaker 1>in like chicken and sneaking in rice.

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Like.

0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:25.960
<v Speaker 1>She would have full plates of like food that she

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:30.520
<v Speaker 1>would pass down to us. Auntie Landa May I love her,

0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:33.080
<v Speaker 1>but she was hood and she made sure that we

0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:34.840
<v Speaker 1>had everything that we needed when we went to the

0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:39.280
<v Speaker 1>movie there we have potato salad, we behaving watermelon. It

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:42.160
<v Speaker 1>was just a lot of stuff that you probably shouldn't

0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:44.760
<v Speaker 1>be eating. In the movies, we would be eating like

0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:47.880
<v Speaker 1>a full meal. And I love Yolanda for that, I

0:58:47.960 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 1>really do. But other than that, we normally would just

0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:53.000
<v Speaker 1>sneak in candy from like seven to eleven or something.

0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 1>But what about you?

0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:56.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, I always think about the scene from Tire

0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 2>movie where Brenda brings like a whole she wants, like

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:02.120
<v Speaker 2>a whole Picnica Sun, not the ship I aspire for.

0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't be great. I live, but like and like,

0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 2>that's what I fire for. I don't because I can't

0:59:11.200 --> 0:59:13.040
<v Speaker 2>have like a bag or someone right and like and

0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 2>like and like, and I'd be like, mom my, mom,

0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 2>pushing your purse. I'm not putting this my purse. We're

0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 2>not walking like that. No, I'm not now that I don't.

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I have my own bath, so I will hardly bring

0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:24.320
<v Speaker 2>some I one time.

0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 3>I brought wings in. I brought wings in.

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't do is tell me I'm not

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:29.840
<v Speaker 2>being wings like.

0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 1>So this is this is a good question. This is

0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:35.160
<v Speaker 1>this is something that I I go back and forth

0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:37.560
<v Speaker 1>with people about this. I know AMC has like the

0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 1>dining and whatever. I think their food is nasty, but

0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I also just don't love the idea of like eating

0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:48.120
<v Speaker 1>while I'm trying to watch a movie. And again, I'm

0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:50.919
<v Speaker 1>not yucking anybody's young. I'm just saying like the thought

0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 1>for me of like trying to focus. Like sometimes when

0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I eat, I like to.

0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Be foods, the food, the phocus of the film.

0:59:57.600 --> 0:59:58.560
<v Speaker 3>It's films, no food.

0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not here for. I'm here to have I maybe

1:00:01.000 --> 1:00:03.880
<v Speaker 2>a little sacky pousa movie.

1:00:04.160 --> 1:00:06.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna eat before after. That's like the probably the

1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:07.240
<v Speaker 3>whole experience.

1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:11.200
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna eat before or after the movie is.

1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Part of the experience when you eat, like you have

1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:15.160
<v Speaker 2>dinner before you or have a stack before, then you

1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:17.880
<v Speaker 2>have dinner afterwards, and you yeah about the movie the

1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:21.479
<v Speaker 2>film like like like that, like that's that's the social

1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:23.440
<v Speaker 2>contract that we all signed when we came in here today.

1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Do not don't fuck up the flow by saying, let

1:00:26.280 --> 1:00:27.120
<v Speaker 2>me order me a burger?

1:00:28.160 --> 1:00:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Why are you eating in the movie, And people and

1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:31.760
<v Speaker 1>like people like I.

1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Know because because like dinning, movie theaters are like a

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:37.760
<v Speaker 2>bigger different states, and like like I remember the first

1:00:37.760 --> 1:00:38.600
<v Speaker 2>time I heard about my dad.

1:00:38.720 --> 1:00:40.320
<v Speaker 3>My dad was in Texas visiting my brother.

1:00:40.400 --> 1:00:42.320
<v Speaker 2>He was like, do you know the theaters have like

1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:44.280
<v Speaker 2>donning options, like and like and like and like the

1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:47.080
<v Speaker 2>like they had they like a waiter, they have like

1:00:47.120 --> 1:00:48.000
<v Speaker 2>a table in front of them.

1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:51.000
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I don't want to do that.

1:00:51.720 --> 1:00:53.160
<v Speaker 3>I want to I want to recline.

1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not trying to like shove a burg

1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:58.040
<v Speaker 2>in my mouth the whay I'm laying six inches backwards,

1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:01.360
<v Speaker 2>like I'm gonna do that. Also, go and pay for

1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:01.960
<v Speaker 2>burger there.

1:01:02.080 --> 1:01:05.600
<v Speaker 3>There's no chef. There's no chef there making.

1:01:05.440 --> 1:01:07.840
<v Speaker 1>It every time. And I've I've been in a situation

1:01:07.960 --> 1:01:10.840
<v Speaker 1>before where I was starving and I was just like, oh,

1:01:11.000 --> 1:01:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, fuck it, I'll just do it. I'll just

1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:14.440
<v Speaker 1>get a burger. I'll get I think I actually got

1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:16.800
<v Speaker 1>some wings. I think this was actually when Black Panther

1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:20.520
<v Speaker 1>came out. I was in Boston and I remember that

1:01:20.680 --> 1:01:22.600
<v Speaker 1>was like I think the first time we started releasing

1:01:22.640 --> 1:01:25.600
<v Speaker 1>AMC doing like the full rollouts of like the full restaurants,

1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:29.439
<v Speaker 1>and it was disgusting. It was probably the worst set

1:01:29.560 --> 1:01:34.400
<v Speaker 1>of like boneless chicken wings. It was like I literally, actually,

1:01:34.560 --> 1:01:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm never. I'm never that girl that's gonna send food back.

1:01:37.720 --> 1:01:39.439
<v Speaker 1>That was one of the times that I did because

1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:40.520
<v Speaker 1>it was so nasty.

1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:43.720
<v Speaker 2>And it's prime occurring up we had, we had it

1:01:43.840 --> 1:01:48.320
<v Speaker 2>was a it was a century theaters. The prime was

1:01:48.480 --> 1:01:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I would get I get a medium popcorn muse because

1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:55.880
<v Speaker 2>they had Starbucks outlet and that I lived. I was like,

1:01:55.960 --> 1:02:00.880
<v Speaker 2>this is the height of luxury. Moga up and some

1:02:00.960 --> 1:02:04.360
<v Speaker 2>popcorn and just like that, That's why I'm there. I'm

1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:07.880
<v Speaker 2>not there too, like no, because I'm already paying twenty

1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:10.800
<v Speaker 2>buch for a ticket. Is That's the thing the dining

1:02:10.840 --> 1:02:13.360
<v Speaker 2>option movie theaters. The tikots are EXPENSI anyway, i'thing twenty

1:02:13.360 --> 1:02:15.480
<v Speaker 2>bucks for tickets were a bunch of ticket that I'm

1:02:15.520 --> 1:02:17.880
<v Speaker 2>paying for a meal. Girl, It's gonna be Jason for cheap.

1:02:18.160 --> 1:02:19.800
<v Speaker 1>God damn day, right right?

1:02:20.240 --> 1:02:23.440
<v Speaker 2>So okay, last question is what are your thoughts on

1:02:23.880 --> 1:02:25.480
<v Speaker 2>what are things people do in the theater that drive

1:02:25.480 --> 1:02:25.960
<v Speaker 2>you insane?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you first, because why is.

1:02:28.480 --> 1:02:30.520
<v Speaker 1>It go ahead, go ahead, Why do you come the

1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:31.000
<v Speaker 1>theater sack?

1:02:32.000 --> 1:02:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Why you call that part man? I'm trying to move

1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:37.680
<v Speaker 2>this film. Why are you colling the whole time. I

1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:43.400
<v Speaker 2>can't hear ship I yap sometimes I love I love

1:02:43.480 --> 1:02:45.479
<v Speaker 2>to yap, but my yapping is about this is about

1:02:45.480 --> 1:02:46.439
<v Speaker 2>the move, about the movie.

1:02:47.040 --> 1:02:49.800
<v Speaker 3>While I hear a conversation about you and you and

1:02:49.880 --> 1:02:50.640
<v Speaker 3>your hook up earlier.

1:02:50.880 --> 1:02:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I was just about to say that yeap about the film.

1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:56.000
<v Speaker 3>This is a share experience, girl. We both pay to

1:02:56.040 --> 1:02:56.320
<v Speaker 3>be here.

1:02:56.680 --> 1:02:58.600
<v Speaker 2>If we're both saying don't go in there, girl, I

1:02:58.680 --> 1:03:02.200
<v Speaker 2>love that for us. Don't don't don't go in there, girl.

1:03:02.240 --> 1:03:06.240
<v Speaker 2>And you're like, girl Jacob last week, ate me out,

1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:08.800
<v Speaker 2>why are you here? Go go the phone and go

1:03:09.320 --> 1:03:14.400
<v Speaker 2>go home, like yeah. Also a children don't Yeah, you

1:03:14.480 --> 1:03:16.760
<v Speaker 2>know I I we have said that child you can

1:03:16.880 --> 1:03:19.080
<v Speaker 2>be quiet, don't bring Yeah, I'm sorry I don't.

1:03:19.320 --> 1:03:21.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's also partly why I don't go watch like

1:03:21.360 --> 1:03:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I know, Elo just came out and I was like,

1:03:22.960 --> 1:03:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I can wait till that comes out on Disney Plus,

1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:27.160
<v Speaker 1>because I genuinely just don't want to have to be

1:03:27.320 --> 1:03:29.440
<v Speaker 1>like I don't want to be that person that ruins

1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:33.720
<v Speaker 1>another person's movie experience because my movie experience was ruined

1:03:33.760 --> 1:03:35.680
<v Speaker 1>because they have kids. So I'll just watch.

1:03:35.560 --> 1:03:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Babies babies there. But but I like a baby cannot

1:03:40.280 --> 1:03:42.280
<v Speaker 2>say still and I don't. I don't live.

1:03:44.240 --> 1:03:45.800
<v Speaker 1>If my parent, why are you here whatever?

1:03:45.920 --> 1:03:48.200
<v Speaker 2>In this age of Beyonce is streaming, we don't need

1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:50.640
<v Speaker 2>to do that. You can watch that home. It's gonna

1:03:50.640 --> 1:03:53.680
<v Speaker 2>be okay, Like and I'm so sorry, Like I'm not

1:03:53.760 --> 1:03:55.800
<v Speaker 2>trying to be anti parents or anti kids, like like

1:03:55.880 --> 1:03:57.400
<v Speaker 2>have your kids and or something you want like do

1:03:57.560 --> 1:04:00.280
<v Speaker 2>things in your life for sure, but like if like

1:04:00.360 --> 1:04:02.400
<v Speaker 2>if you know your baby's gonna be crying as it

1:04:02.440 --> 1:04:03.640
<v Speaker 2>should be since a baby.

1:04:06.400 --> 1:04:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Why is this baby in the why you got a

1:04:09.360 --> 1:04:12.560
<v Speaker 1>baby in the bar? But no, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why, like I said, there are movies that

1:04:14.360 --> 1:04:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I know are like movies that I know have like

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<v Speaker 1>a kid tinge or like targeted for children. I just say,

1:04:22.400 --> 1:04:24.120
<v Speaker 1>screw it. I'll just stay home and watch it because

1:04:24.120 --> 1:04:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm gonna be irritated the entire film. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest, my biggest pet peeve these days

1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the people who are on their phone the entire film,

1:04:31.040 --> 1:04:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Like if I can see your phone light while I'm

1:04:34.600 --> 1:04:38.680
<v Speaker 1>behind you, why, like why like literally this is an

1:04:38.720 --> 1:04:43.000
<v Speaker 1>hour two hours you don't need, like if it's that

1:04:43.640 --> 1:04:46.480
<v Speaker 1>dire you don't need to be here, Like if it's

1:04:46.560 --> 1:04:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that dire that you need to take glued to your

1:04:48.040 --> 1:04:50.240
<v Speaker 1>phone in that way, you need to be outside. You

1:04:50.360 --> 1:04:53.120
<v Speaker 1>need to be at home watching this on your television.

1:04:53.600 --> 1:04:55.040
<v Speaker 1>You don't need to be in the movie there. That's

1:04:55.080 --> 1:04:57.000
<v Speaker 1>like my biggest pet peeve is people who sit on

1:04:57.080 --> 1:04:59.040
<v Speaker 1>their phone the entire time.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the foch Like, why you pay to be here?

1:05:00.640 --> 1:05:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Why did you be here phone?

1:05:02.000 --> 1:05:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Why did you pay seventeen eighteen twenty dollars? It makes

1:05:05.080 --> 1:05:08.000
<v Speaker 1>no sense to sit on your phone, literally, girl, make

1:05:08.040 --> 1:05:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's my biggest girl. Okay, well none of

1:05:13.360 --> 1:05:14.720
<v Speaker 2>you nobo me if she got y'all in the mood

1:05:14.720 --> 1:05:18.000
<v Speaker 2>to head down to your local theater and shot you know, you.

1:05:20.040 --> 1:05:22.200
<v Speaker 3>As a girl who who has who has.

1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Her phone on or has a child with them, We

1:05:24.280 --> 1:05:25.640
<v Speaker 2>got to take a quick bick and come back with y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Fir a segment in just a bait.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all. So this week for my yes man,

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<v Speaker 1>mom my no man, Pam's they are semi direct, but

1:05:42.440 --> 1:05:44.440
<v Speaker 1>they're also kind of all over the place. So it

1:05:44.560 --> 1:05:47.600
<v Speaker 1>is what it is this week for my yes man Pam,

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<v Speaker 1>I I genuinely just wanted to shout out anybody, anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So my yes, ma'am for this week is anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>is continuing to fight the good fight and holding people

1:05:59.480 --> 1:06:02.120
<v Speaker 1>in power accountable for all the bullshit that they see,

1:06:02.200 --> 1:06:05.120
<v Speaker 1>whether it be folks sharing stuff saying call your you know,

1:06:05.200 --> 1:06:07.400
<v Speaker 1>your senators, or people who are you know. I had

1:06:07.400 --> 1:06:11.040
<v Speaker 1>a friend yesterday who had posted on social media she

1:06:11.320 --> 1:06:14.640
<v Speaker 1>was she had made a whole bunch of signs, and

1:06:14.720 --> 1:06:17.160
<v Speaker 1>she was just walking around her neighborhood, you know, telling

1:06:17.240 --> 1:06:19.760
<v Speaker 1>basically because she had seen ice there. She had a

1:06:19.840 --> 1:06:22.200
<v Speaker 1>sign and basically it was saying like, you know, keep ice,

1:06:22.280 --> 1:06:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and then as you know, as people came up to her,

1:06:24.840 --> 1:06:27.080
<v Speaker 1>she would hand them the signs to like walk with her.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was like something I thought was really cool. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just, you know, we're at a time right now

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<v Speaker 1>where everyone is doing the best that they can, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think instead of, you know, I know people can

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<v Speaker 1>be doing more, but I also live in the mind

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<v Speaker 1>too of like there are people who are doing the

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<v Speaker 1>best that they can and doing what they can the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they know how, and so I definitely wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to just give credit to those people that are like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do, but I know I

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<v Speaker 1>need to do something. So I'm going to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be start a podcast, whether it be go

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<v Speaker 1>on a podcast and use the platform to say something bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it. Like I said, being outside and just

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<v Speaker 1>walking around right like today, I have on a shirt

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, has a message that I'm probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be wearing tomorrow and it basically says, I want for

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<v Speaker 1>you what you want for immigrants, like that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as people don't people think, oh, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>performative or whatever, it sends a message and it lets

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<v Speaker 1>other people know that, you know, even even in the

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<v Speaker 1>moments of like you feel like you don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do and it feels like everything is crumbling around you,

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<v Speaker 1>just do something is sometimes enough. And so I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>just want to give people credit for doing whatever that

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<v Speaker 1>they can in this moment. My nomn PAM is actually

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<v Speaker 1>a twofold when they are not related. I'm gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>with the first one and then I'm gonna say my

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<v Speaker 1>last one, and then I'll throw it to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely am in the mind of you know what, I'll say.

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<v Speaker 1>This one I think is the important and then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do the more more not important one second. So my

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<v Speaker 1>first first one is I just want to say, fuck Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck Ice, fuck anyone and everyone who let did he

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<v Speaker 1>get away with his bullshit? And any other person who

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<v Speaker 1>is supporting folks like Diddy, like Trump, like Ice, anybody

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<v Speaker 1>like I just like hard stop anybody who's who's who?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's with the bullshit? I'm just I'm over it. Fuck y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>That is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's literally all I have to say. And I could

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<v Speaker 1>go on for hours about how I feel about everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know it won't necessarily help, but I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>am in the mind of like, if you, if you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are okay with this, what we're seeing and

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening. Like I've said earlier, you are part of

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<v Speaker 1>the problem, and I really hope and pray that nothing

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<v Speaker 1>good comes your way. Now, the other part of what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to share, which is very very forty year

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<v Speaker 1>old me, like Grandpa, get off my lawn. These stupid

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<v Speaker 1>kids with these motorbikes that I'm seeing, I am done

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<v Speaker 1>with them. I hate them. I think they're stupid. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we there should be licenses like so. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is the the reason why I'm saying this, Like normally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the girl to come on the mic and

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<v Speaker 1>just be like, oh, I'm gonna y'all about this really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really stupid thing. But I was at Lax

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<v Speaker 1>and as I was leaving the other day, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a whole mess because someone was riding one of those

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<v Speaker 1>motorbikes the wrong direction on the like the street where

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<v Speaker 1>all the busses come, So all the buses had to

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<v Speaker 1>stop because that person was riding the motorbike and wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get off the bike. And even when the police were

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to chase them and get them off the bike,

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<v Speaker 1>they thought it was funny to be like zooming in

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<v Speaker 1>between buses and things. And the other day, as I

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<v Speaker 1>was turning into my garage, a kid zoomed past me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like I could have hit this kid, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just I hate them. I think they are so stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really do believe that there should be like you,

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<v Speaker 1>you should have to have a license for them because

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<v Speaker 1>people are so what's the word I'm looking for? Y'all

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<v Speaker 1>are dealing with me coming off of COVID, so a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of my words are escaping me. But like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's reckless. I think it's the right word. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very reckless how people treat their lives on those bikes,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just I'm I'm over them. I really

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to say, like, it doesn't make any sense,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you are going to use them, please have

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<v Speaker 1>some damn sense when you do use them, Like come

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<v Speaker 1>on now, like you literally are putting your life in

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<v Speaker 1>in someone else's hands because you're you're zooming past them

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<v Speaker 1>on a street full of cars and buses?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you? Like?

1:10:31.000 --> 1:10:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Are you? Are you? Are you stupid? Are you dumb? Literally?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's literally how I feel every time I see

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<v Speaker 1>someone on them. So yeah, that's where I'm at. What

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<v Speaker 1>about you? What are your yes ma'am's?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm a yes ma'am. I aw, I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 2>to to find it. I'm like, I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 2>a yes man anymore. But no, I'll just say memes.

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<v Speaker 2>Some are funny, yes, yes, like some are great. Some

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, noah, I enjoy this, This is hilarious. People

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<v Speaker 2>are funny, and then they're creative and they should be

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<v Speaker 2>they should be celebrated more boo boo mm hmmm. I

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<v Speaker 2>will never write for la boo boom. I don't understand there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know what. Thank you everybody. This has been

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic run. This has been a fantastic brind This

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<v Speaker 1>will be the last episode. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you'll see us. You'll see us both on our

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<v Speaker 3>new shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh that.

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<v Speaker 3>Separately we trash talk each other.

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<v Speaker 4>What is it Seleno and Barnes, not as me and

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<v Speaker 4>Seleno and Barelen.

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<v Speaker 1>I still believe I'm probably gonna get trouble for saying this.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that who was the one that died? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it Seleno who died?

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<v Speaker 3>Who are?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? So Selena and bar So, I'm gonna put you

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<v Speaker 1>up on on on games. Seleno and Barnes, they were

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<v Speaker 1>a like law firm, and I think they were friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they split, like I guess, they suit

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<v Speaker 1>each other and split and it became the Barnes firm.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think it was it was Selena who

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<v Speaker 1>died like a couple of weeks later in a plane crash.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that Barnes had Seleno killed.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is John Recker saying that if we break up,

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna have taken it out.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm taken out that happened, and I truly believe

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<v Speaker 4>in my heart of hearts that Barnes had Seleno killed allegedly.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to say allegedly because I don't want nobody

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<v Speaker 4>coming after be allegedly.

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<v Speaker 2>You here, y'all, they gonna get me, John, don't get me.

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<v Speaker 2>Get Me's gonna allegedly get me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I am not okay, So I done it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see if boo boo. I just don't. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't understand what people are besize.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I yucked.

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<v Speaker 1>No many, Oh my god, I have more here, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I have one there, and then I have another

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<v Speaker 1>one and then have more upstairs too.

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<v Speaker 2>I live. Yeah, but no, man, Pam, so okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>have a small This is for people who really must

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<v Speaker 2>understand the purpose of pride and the movement of pride.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was born out of a conversation I've had

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<v Speaker 2>in San Diego where people feel like pride is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a space, a beauty and love, an inclusion,

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<v Speaker 2>and also came to this space where also came into

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<v Speaker 2>this space. I may comment to this couple about how

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't think straight folks want the

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<v Speaker 2>pride and like it was half choking and they're like

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<v Speaker 2>one person a couple was like, I can't bet you

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<v Speaker 2>would say that it was you know, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was like why and she was

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<v Speaker 2>like and it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a lively couple.

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<v Speaker 2>And so one of the wise was like I think

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<v Speaker 2>the one wise was like our community, so our community

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<v Speaker 2>is so exclusionary, Like I can't believe you would like

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<v Speaker 2>want to be exclusionary as well too, like should should

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<v Speaker 2>be about inclusion and like you know that you live

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<v Speaker 2>like like like we need straight allies And I was like, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>we need straight allies for sure, but like either they

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<v Speaker 2>belong that pride or belonging or belong in my game?

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<v Speaker 1>Up right?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they fine to come?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Do they belong?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I just I'm so sorry, I tell you, and like

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<v Speaker 2>I will have been going to air saying this, like

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<v Speaker 2>I do not believe that straight folks like but like

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<v Speaker 2>like but like belong there, like it's not probably it's

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<v Speaker 2>not about un love and inclusion those women their pride, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but like that I guess like prior the inclusion, that's

1:14:29.320 --> 1:14:32.280
<v Speaker 2>the battles inclusion of queer and transphobes, right, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>not included in actual life beyond that, like, like the

1:14:36.720 --> 1:14:38.760
<v Speaker 2>entire sur pride was not to be a space of

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<v Speaker 2>union love.

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<v Speaker 3>The entire surpride was to literally fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the system that want is to not be

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<v Speaker 2>publicly and like, I'm so sorry you think otherwise, but

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<v Speaker 2>like that's the like like facts are facts in history

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<v Speaker 2>is real, and you need like you need you need

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<v Speaker 2>to like understand that baby girl, Like when Marcia threw

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<v Speaker 2>a bass she did Marcia and Marcia allegedly you know

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<v Speaker 2>the whether it's real or proverbial. The birth that was

1:15:09.640 --> 1:15:11.559
<v Speaker 2>was not a brick for unity and love. The brick

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<v Speaker 2>was saying I'm tired of this bullshit. The biggest Gaga

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<v Speaker 2>pride that people don't understand sometimes I think it's lost

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<v Speaker 2>on them. The biggest Gaga pride is that many cities

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<v Speaker 2>that have that have pride parades how to parade while

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<v Speaker 2>under the survivance of police, which was the exact system

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<v Speaker 2>that borne the revolution of pride in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>So tragically, babes, no pride is not about edity and

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<v Speaker 2>love an inclusion. It's about survival and resistance and me

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<v Speaker 2>in love are like you're right, like you're wrong and

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<v Speaker 2>and the people want to be my DMS or email

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<v Speaker 2>us about how straight should be in pride. I please,

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<v Speaker 2>I welcome the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>I really, I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>But like there's like I don't have many I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have many straight friends, and I don't I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>that my life is worse for it. I just don't believe.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, like, what does the system of straightings have

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<v Speaker 2>to offer me?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Nothing like like I do. I have straight friends

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<v Speaker 2>and I love them, yes, right right, but like like

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<v Speaker 2>like like and I'm not saying that I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, you're straight, don't don't talk to this not

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, although I could, because to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>how many straights are like you're you're your queer, don't

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<v Speaker 2>talk to me? Right like but right like I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't need the trope of I have

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<v Speaker 2>a straight best friend and they and they and they

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<v Speaker 2>and they have a gay best friend. That's not the

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<v Speaker 2>bridge building I'm trying to do, girl, But that's not

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<v Speaker 2>my bridge ministry. My my my bridgemaining is about like

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<v Speaker 2>like it's about Richar dynamics is often seen as is

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<v Speaker 2>others ultracized or killed.

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<v Speaker 3>How chances is murdered?

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<v Speaker 2>Like when when when straight folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Like like ride for us.

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<v Speaker 2>I am happy to say, come to girl, I'm having

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<v Speaker 2>to say, I live.

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<v Speaker 3>I live in a queer area.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>In this city that is roughly let's say like thirty

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<v Speaker 2>forty miles long.

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<v Speaker 3>I have one mile of.

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<v Speaker 2>Quickness and you have thirty nine miles of straightness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, why do you have to be here?

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<v Speaker 2>Like why? Like why do you have to be here?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the question. Like you, I don't like, you don't

1:17:25.960 --> 1:17:28.000
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing here? What do you have?

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<v Speaker 2>You have? You have safety everywhere else?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, I have.

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<v Speaker 2>We had to fight for this area to be here,

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<v Speaker 2>in this art brother town. We had to fight to

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<v Speaker 2>have our own like gay bars and queer spaces, queer

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<v Speaker 2>un restaurants, like like like I am, I really am,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I don't really like I'm not Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that we can't be an inturgrace as its

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<v Speaker 2>not in at all, right, and like my ideal world

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<v Speaker 2>and my deal world is.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people would say segregation is good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying some people. Some people would some people

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<v Speaker 2>would write like like like like like my ideal world

1:18:05.080 --> 1:18:08.400
<v Speaker 2>is a world in which like, yes, like que it's

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, and literally like no one's bothering whatsoever. Right,

1:18:12.040 --> 1:18:15.960
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't happen, No, that doesn't. It still isn't happening

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<v Speaker 2>in many places. So like, until that is, give me

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<v Speaker 2>my pride and give me my give me my my

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<v Speaker 2>queer areas.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so again, And I know we can stay

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<v Speaker 1>on this topic for hours, but I think there's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's frustrating to me that I think that there

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<v Speaker 1>are people who can't understand and can't comprehend when I

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<v Speaker 1>say I want my own space, I need my own space,

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<v Speaker 1>what that really means. It's not that I'm excluding you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's this notion of I don't get to feel safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Like twenty three hours of my life, I'm constantly worried

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<v Speaker 1>about my safety. I'm worried about my my well being.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm my mental capacity.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So in this hour that I'm with queer people, or

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<v Speaker 1>this hour that I'm with black people, or this hour

1:19:09.640 --> 1:19:12.519
<v Speaker 1>one with queer black people, where I'm telling you, as

1:19:12.600 --> 1:19:17.800
<v Speaker 1>a straight cishead person to stay away, a white person

1:19:17.920 --> 1:19:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to stay away, for for you to say, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's problematic that you know I should be able to

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<v Speaker 1>have access like you are. You are literally doing exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what white supremacy is.

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<v Speaker 2>I should have access, I should be Why should you

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<v Speaker 2>have why why should you maybe have accesses you should have? Ye?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I people like who look like us, who have the

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<v Speaker 2>of us have never had access.

1:19:46.720 --> 1:19:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Nope, and and still don't. It's still just.

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<v Speaker 2>Should simply because what right or like or like like

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<v Speaker 2>because you because you say you love gay people, you should.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby, the war is not but your love is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep us safe. And that's the thing I

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<v Speaker 1>think people have a hard time understanding.

1:20:07.000 --> 1:20:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Like and if you don't know you don't fight for us,

1:20:09.080 --> 1:20:11.439
<v Speaker 2>you actually don't love us, like like I like if

1:20:11.560 --> 1:20:15.760
<v Speaker 2>you think if you think that like saying hi to

1:20:15.960 --> 1:20:18.840
<v Speaker 2>us and giving us a hug, like it like shows

1:20:18.880 --> 1:20:22.600
<v Speaker 2>that you're dancing with us, Like yeah, like you cannot.

1:20:22.960 --> 1:20:24.439
<v Speaker 3>I think I think that this is this is where

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<v Speaker 3>it is for me. You cannot participate in our joy.

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<v Speaker 2>And think that that's enough. Yeah, Like you cannot say

1:20:34.640 --> 1:20:37.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm your allies simply because you come to our to

1:20:37.920 --> 1:20:41.559
<v Speaker 2>our parades, or you or you occupy space in our bars,

1:20:41.840 --> 1:20:45.040
<v Speaker 2>right or like like or that you patriot our restaurants

1:20:45.120 --> 1:20:47.720
<v Speaker 2>like are those good things? Yes, and you should, but

1:20:47.960 --> 1:20:49.760
<v Speaker 2>don't feel like don't feel like you're a good person

1:20:49.800 --> 1:20:54.840
<v Speaker 2>because of its basic human decency in that part. If

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<v Speaker 2>you aren't at our protest, if you are on our marchist,

1:20:57.760 --> 1:20:59.400
<v Speaker 2>if you aren't talking about the lack of access we

1:20:59.439 --> 1:21:02.280
<v Speaker 2>have Jennifer and care, if you aren't talking about like

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<v Speaker 2>like that like, we may lose a right to we may.

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<v Speaker 3>Lose the right to Mary. If you weren't talking about that,

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<v Speaker 3>you do not love us?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no I would even I would even go further.

1:21:11.000 --> 1:21:13.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, I look around. So this idea of like

1:21:13.560 --> 1:21:16.120
<v Speaker 1>people in positions, you know, it shouldn't always come back

1:21:16.160 --> 1:21:18.400
<v Speaker 1>down to capitalism. But the reality is that a lot

1:21:18.439 --> 1:21:20.880
<v Speaker 1>of queer people are suffering right now and are worried

1:21:20.880 --> 1:21:22.840
<v Speaker 1>about what their livelihood is going to look like in

1:21:22.880 --> 1:21:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the next couple of months. And if you are an

1:21:24.960 --> 1:21:27.240
<v Speaker 1>HR person and you're saying, oh, I'm inclusive or I'm

1:21:27.240 --> 1:21:29.920
<v Speaker 1>a and you only have two queer people on your team,

1:21:31.000 --> 1:21:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you are the antithesis of someone who is causing a

1:21:34.520 --> 1:21:36.040
<v Speaker 1>problem in our in our society.

1:21:36.160 --> 1:21:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't it can't just stop at the idea of Oh,

1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go to Pride and it's going to

1:21:40.720 --> 1:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>be you know, I love queer people. I want to

1:21:42.880 --> 1:21:46.080
<v Speaker 1>celebrate them. Nah, bitch, get to work. Like you need

1:21:46.160 --> 1:21:47.960
<v Speaker 1>to be looking at systems. You need to be looking

1:21:48.000 --> 1:21:49.760
<v Speaker 1>at things around you. You need to be looking at

1:21:49.840 --> 1:21:53.759
<v Speaker 1>all the stuff that you interact with, anything and everything

1:21:53.880 --> 1:21:56.120
<v Speaker 1>you interact with. You need to be looking at it

1:21:56.280 --> 1:22:01.000
<v Speaker 1>as a cis straight person in this moment, in this moment,

1:22:01.080 --> 1:22:02.599
<v Speaker 1>you need to be looking at it and saying, how

1:22:02.720 --> 1:22:06.439
<v Speaker 1>can I use whatever access and privilege that I have

1:22:07.000 --> 1:22:09.719
<v Speaker 1>to fuck up this system that's continuing to keep working,

1:22:10.520 --> 1:22:12.640
<v Speaker 1>because that's really where it is. And we are and

1:22:12.720 --> 1:22:15.880
<v Speaker 1>we are literally as as queer people, as black people,

1:22:15.960 --> 1:22:19.000
<v Speaker 1>as queer black people, we are literally fighting tooth and

1:22:19.080 --> 1:22:23.840
<v Speaker 1>nail to keep what little bit of liberty and what

1:22:24.040 --> 1:22:27.639
<v Speaker 1>little in liberation that we have. We are all fighting.

1:22:27.800 --> 1:22:29.640
<v Speaker 1>And so now you're coming into Pride and you're like, oh,

1:22:29.640 --> 1:22:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I deserve to be here, and it's like, na, bitch,

1:22:32.000 --> 1:22:34.519
<v Speaker 1>like that, ain't how this is gonna work. And and

1:22:34.680 --> 1:22:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'll say this and then we can wrap. You know,

1:22:37.840 --> 1:22:40.720
<v Speaker 1>if you for folks who are listening, if you are

1:22:40.840 --> 1:22:43.799
<v Speaker 1>in spaces with queer people, if you are in spaces

1:22:43.880 --> 1:22:46.000
<v Speaker 1>with black people, if you are in spaces with anyone

1:22:46.000 --> 1:22:50.679
<v Speaker 1>who is marginalized, and their tone or their energy seems

1:22:50.800 --> 1:22:57.320
<v Speaker 1>pointed at this moment, let it. This moment is not

1:22:57.479 --> 1:22:59.439
<v Speaker 1>about you. It is not about and what I say

1:22:59.479 --> 1:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>about it, Yes it is. But what I mean is

1:23:02.560 --> 1:23:04.760
<v Speaker 1>for you to be like, oh my feelings and someone

1:23:04.800 --> 1:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>sends something to me and it hurt my feelings right now,

1:23:09.160 --> 1:23:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I hate saying as well, fuck you. Like literally, we

1:23:12.080 --> 1:23:13.800
<v Speaker 1>are at a place right now where it's like we

1:23:14.040 --> 1:23:17.720
<v Speaker 1>don't we don't get to rest, we don't get to

1:23:18.000 --> 1:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>feel good, quote unquote when all of this stuff is

1:23:21.400 --> 1:23:23.400
<v Speaker 1>coming down. And like I've been saying, at the end

1:23:23.400 --> 1:23:25.320
<v Speaker 1>of the day, this is all going to impact us,

1:23:25.800 --> 1:23:29.120
<v Speaker 1>regardless of how anyone looks at it, right, Medicaid stuff, this,

1:23:29.320 --> 1:23:32.160
<v Speaker 1>all of this shit is gonna impact us one way

1:23:32.240 --> 1:23:34.240
<v Speaker 1>or another. And so if you're in a space with

1:23:34.320 --> 1:23:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a queer person and they say something and it and

1:23:36.400 --> 1:23:40.479
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't rub you the right way, eat it, sit

1:23:40.560 --> 1:23:42.760
<v Speaker 1>on it. Because the reality is is like, this is

1:23:42.880 --> 1:23:46.120
<v Speaker 1>not the time for you to position yourself to feel

1:23:46.280 --> 1:23:49.640
<v Speaker 1>like we have to in your straightness, in your in

1:23:49.760 --> 1:23:52.640
<v Speaker 1>your pride and privilege that we have to center you.

1:23:52.800 --> 1:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>So that's just where I'm at with that. I think

1:23:55.840 --> 1:23:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you're very valid and what you're what you what you're saying,

1:23:58.160 --> 1:24:02.240
<v Speaker 1>my friend, thank you. So yeah, anyway, all right, this

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<v Speaker 1>has been a great I will say this is probably

1:24:05.640 --> 1:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite episodes. This has been a great episode.

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<v Speaker 2>out anybody who speaks to my loved ones names. Nothing

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<v Speaker 2>is having particular for me to say this. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>there's any reason why I said this. I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all know now, I'm not the person to be played with.

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<v Speaker 3>Do not speak. Do not speak on my loved ones.

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<v Speaker 3>It will end badly for.

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<v Speaker 1>You, girl, not being like Candy. That's my mama, that's

1:25:01.640 --> 1:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>my mama. One thing Candy gonna do is ride for

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Joyce. Yes. As for me and mine, you can

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on Threads Blue Sky. You can also find me

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, maybe on Facebook. Sometimes I'm on Facebook, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to shout out there are multiple I'm

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<v Speaker 1>done with this book tour. It's done. We're done, we

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<v Speaker 1>are done. I do want to say though, that there

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<v Speaker 1>are virtual book opportunities coming up. If you would like

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<v Speaker 1>me to be on something, please reach out. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are looking for speaking like this is and this is

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say this, This is the perfect time.

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<v Speaker 1>If you really are that girl and you're like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my company is rolling back, or oh we don't have

1:25:55.160 --> 1:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the funds. You you you are, you and your organizations

1:25:58.680 --> 1:26:01.120
<v Speaker 1>are the problems. So this is this is the time

1:26:01.160 --> 1:26:03.439
<v Speaker 1>for you to really show up for people like myself

1:26:03.840 --> 1:26:06.640
<v Speaker 1>who make so much money off of speaking engagement and

1:26:06.800 --> 1:26:09.479
<v Speaker 1>doing this quote unquote good work. If it's good work,

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<v Speaker 1>find the money for it. But all that to be said,

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<v Speaker 1>I am open to speaking engagements now that my book

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<v Speaker 1>Tours is done. I also want to say that I

1:26:16.800 --> 1:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>believe that a lot of this is a scheme that

1:26:18.800 --> 1:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Todd set up to hit us with the bullshit. For

1:26:23.920 --> 1:26:26.120
<v Speaker 1>those who get it, you get it. For those that

1:26:26.240 --> 1:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>don't don't. But all that to be said, yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's a very interesting time to be alive. And

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<v Speaker 1>for those who rock with us, thank you. And for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who aren't who are listening or hate listening,

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<v Speaker 1>because we know we have hate listeners. We know we

1:26:41.080 --> 1:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>have hate listeners, thank you for listening to But hating

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<v Speaker 1>us is not gonna make you any make you feel

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<v Speaker 1>any more better about your life. I just want to

1:26:48.720 --> 1:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>throw that out there as well. Anyway, all that to

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<v Speaker 1>be said, we want to thank our producer bay Wang,

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<v Speaker 1>super producer, I want to put that out there are

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<v Speaker 1>super procuor bay Wang for handling all of the logistics

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<v Speaker 1>with the show and everyone over at iHeart Media who

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank our producer, slash editor, slash uh, visual artists,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call, Chris Rogers. They are literally

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<v Speaker 1>the bones of this show. So thank you Chris Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>for everything that you do. Without them, we would have

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<v Speaker 1>no audio, we would have no visuals. Down to the

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<v Speaker 1>tubes of you, and thank you for everybody who watches

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<v Speaker 1>the youtubes. I know I've had friends mentioned to me.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, I'm watching it this weekend, blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah, and I'm like, oh, y'all be watching. Okay, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. So thank you for watching. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>has been another show. Stay black, fat, femine, fabulous, and

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<v Speaker 1>remember what, Jojo.

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<v Speaker 2>We may not be your first tante Surpride, but girl,

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<v Speaker 2>throw a brick. You need to anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's right, throw a brick. That's literally you

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<v Speaker 1>know what. That's gonna be the tiple episode Brick. The

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<v Speaker 1>title of the episode is I Got.

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<v Speaker 2>Minds right here, y'all, I got minds right here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm screaming. I love us for real everybody, y'all take

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<v Speaker 1>care of y'allselves. Will see you next week. Love you,

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<v Speaker 1>bye bye,