WEBVTT - Episode 446 w/ John Legend 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.919 He is drinks chests, motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queens rapper. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:18.800 He ain't agreed that your boy in O r E. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.960 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What ups d J 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.480 e f N? Together they drink it up with some 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.200 of the biggest players you me and the most. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.160 Professional unprofessional podcast and your. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:32.720 Number one source for drunk drinks. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:37.160 D is New year c That's it's time for drink champs, 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:37.640 drink up? 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:45.240 Mother would it could be hoping He's winter should be 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.199 it's your boy in O R E? What up is 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:48.080 d J e f N? 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.320 This is mina tepic crazy have you have gonna make something? 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.279 And when we started, when we started the show, we. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.160 Said we wanted to interview legends. Yes, man here as 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.600 a legend. This man is an icon. He's the only 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.440 person I know what an e guy and even know 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.160 what the fucking e goot was I dropped out a 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:09.160 seventh grade. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.000 God damn it, it's mo fucker E got is he? 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:17.880 NAACP Awards nominated at least thirty forty nine a thousand times, 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:19.640 thirteen goddamn Grammys. 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:21.840 This motherfucker is a legend on a legend and his 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:23.800 name is a legend. And in case you don't know 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.399 who we talking about, we talked about the one, the 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:33.280 only dampeccable. Yes, you can take a quack before me. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.080 You beat me to the blest of intro. I like 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.120 to hear. Man, So what's going on which brings you 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:38.640 to Miami? 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:39.000 Man? 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.320 I came to see y'all. Oh, I just fix the 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:41.840 fucking up. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.840 I was in New York doing press and they were like, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:50.280 do you want to come down to Miami and do 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:50.960 drink champs? 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.840 And yes. I was like, it's about time. Yes, yeah. Yeah. 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:59.000 So recently you letting your skills and you sang for 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.520 the fire department, but now it's not a normal fire department. 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.640 This was a fire department that was sent prison. 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.600 Yeah. So I wasn't there to sing. 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:11.080 I was just there to highlight what they're doing, to 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:16.560 thank them because these guys they're currently incarcerated and they 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.280 volunteer for this program to fight fires in California, which 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.760 California has a lot of fires, and so they're going 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.840 they train, they go hike up the mountains, go back 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:28.959 up and back and forth and up and back and forth, 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.920 and it's a crazy training program. But they grow so 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.480 much through it and they end up getting time taking 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:39.399 off of their term in prison and it improves their 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.000 lives a lot. But we wanted to highlight what they 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.160 do them and thank them, and also advocate that they 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.600 get paid better, that the conditions are still better for them, 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:52.320 and they get more opportunities after they leave prison so 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.000 they can actually work as firefighters and they leave and 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:56.720 other things like that. So I was there just to 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.600 talk with them. I sat there just building with them 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.240 for like an hour, and then at the end I 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.440 sang like a versus ordinary people and everybody's like John 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.799 Legend just went and sang ordinary people to the fire 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.919 like that was all I was doing there. I went 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.360 there to talk to them, highlight them, thanked them, advocate 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.160 for them, and they were asking me questions at the 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.360 end about my life and getting advice from me. And 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:21.680 then at the end they were like, John, what you 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:23.560 sing for it? So I sang a little ordinary people. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.280 Some of the top of people in the world love 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.880 R and B. That's a fact. Yes, thugs love R 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:29.800 and B. That's so. 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.680 Let me ask you something to me. You are hamanitarian, 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.880 you're a people person. How did you develop that like 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:36.560 type of you know what I mean, like you put 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.360 people before you, like from outside of looking at this inside. 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:43.160 Well, I always thought that I wanted to be an artist. 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.200 I always thought I wanted to sing for a living, 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.360 but also always thought that the greatest artists that I 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.640 looked up to were the ones that gave back. 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:55.880 And if you look at Stevie. 0:03:55.520 --> 0:04:01.160 Sidney Poitier, mam and Gay, Sidney Poitier, Paul Robson, Nina Simone, 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:05.560 Aretha Franklin, Harry Belafonte, all of these artists, they were 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.920 successful as artists. They were huge artists, sold a lot 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.640 of records, so a lot of concert tickets, and then 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.560 they were also funneling money to doctor King to make 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.520 sure that the movement was going forward. 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.520 They would fly and meet him. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:21.279 At these at these marches and bail him out of jail. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.400 And so I always looked at being an artist as 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.960 partly not just being an artist for myself, but using 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.120 the platform to give back and to be humanitarian. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:37.479 I mean, I'm gonna give straight to it. It was 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.159 like Trump was your nemesis. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.520 I feel like he's NICs nemesis. 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.080 They're not mine because. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:51.680 He ran against Hillary Hillary side. Yeah, he ran against Kamala. Yeah, 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.120 and he was on commona side against body. Now was 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.000 on Biden's side. You know, if Trump is running, there's 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.400 a good chance I'll be against him. 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.080 Do you I think he follows you on Twitter secretly? Well, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.480 I'm not on Twitter anymore? Okay, good? Yeah, all right, 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:08.919 come on Twitter. It's not good. It's gone. It disappears. 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.640 Whenever I'm having too much of a good day, I just. 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:17.360 Go on black Twitter. I just have to broke. You 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:23.000 got to get base, Yeah, base only Fans's son retired. 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.120 He has a fan base. He started. It's a black owned. 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:27.960 There's a couple other ones that are, but. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.320 All of them are kind of smaller than Twitter used 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:30.480 to be. 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.880 And then a lot of people left Twitter. I left Twitter, 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:34.760 and I think a lot of people are gone from it, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.920 so there's not really one place where everybody is. I 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.920 do most of my communicating on ig but even that, 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.680 I don't really do as much of what I used 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:44.320 to do on Twitter. 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.360 Right, Yeah, But you think you think Trump separly follows 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.120 you on I G Well, I would. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.160 Say he was. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.400 He's like the only time he really acknowledged us when 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:56.240 he was president. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:57.880 The first time I. 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:02.360 Did this criminal justice reform event at. 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.039 Sing Sing in New York. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.880 And yeah, so we went up there to the prison 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:12.080 and we're meeting with the inmates and we're just having 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.040 a conversation about reform and everything that we work on. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.280 And for some reason, on a Sunday night, the President 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.560 of the United States was watching the show and he 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.440 was mad that we didn't say enough about him, give 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.559 him enough credit because he passed one criminal justice reform 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.200 bill and he was upset and so he was like 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:38.320 that boring singer John Legend and his filthy mouthed wife, Christy. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:43.920 Christy wasn't even there, so I don't know why she 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:48.880 catches stress, But I'm like, why are you watching the show? 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.440 You like you're the president, Like, don't you have something 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:55.000 better to do? But no, he likes he likes to 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.080 watch cable news. I don't know what he's doing on Twitter, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.720 but I think he's on his own app. He got 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:04.040 his own that now he has his own, Yeah he did. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.560 I'll be seeing him on ex a lot, well his 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.840 boy on it now. So yeah, like like I'm. 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:12.400 Sorry to get political, because I'm gonna go. I'm gonna 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.480 going We'll talk about everything. But but his it's crazy 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:19.880 right years ago recipe of IRV Gotti years ago, IRV Gotti, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:24.640 J Prince Sug and I forget who's the other It 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.040 was one of other Prince Sug Sugar Gotti was there 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:28.560 somebody else. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.520 I hold, don't think they're Dang Dang. I believe Dave. 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.440 Yeah, huh yeah, I believe Dame was down and these 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.120 were these powerful black men that was getting together. People 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:42.120 automatically said, this is a Illuminati right now, right now, 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.840 in our face. They met in private just because they 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.320 couldn't get get it together. And from what I heard, 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.880 but you seeing Eli must with Dan a white uh 0:07:53.960 --> 0:08:03.640 huh woof Joe Rogan in your fucking face and a 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.960 meeting in public, bark Zuckerberg. He used, he was down 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:10.080 with a Democrat and he does twitched over, he doesn't 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:11.360 change his watches and everything. 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.320 Yeah, he went over to that other side. Well, I 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.440 think they saw what Elon was able to do. 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.560 He was able to donate over two hundred million dollars 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.920 to the campaign, and he basically bought a presidency. So 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.080 he bought the right to ride shotgun with Trump and 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.880 be his co president. And so now he's running through 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.920 the government doing what he wants to do because he 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.199 bought the right. You shouldn't be able to buy the 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:34.959 right to do that, but he did it out and ope, 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.280 and he bought it. And Trump is letting him be 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:38.360 co president with him. 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.360 Because what's the thing you just said. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.319 That's a different Twitter, Isaac Hayeson. 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.200 That one's called fan Base, But there's a Blue Sky, 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.440 there's true Blue Sky is another new one. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.079 Threads is part of Instagram. I know, I know. 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.400 You can invest in fan base too, like apen source 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:56.280 where you can invest in it. 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.240 Absolutely, yeah, yeah, so what if we all got together. 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:01.480 That's that's what Isaac's trying to do. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.920 He's trying to do that's what But there's a couple 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:05.280 others that are trying to do it as well, and 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.559 it's just, uh, what was the other one? There was 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.760 another black owned one. I can't think of the name now, 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.440 but goddamn, everybody's trying. But it's hard because you got 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.240 to get everybody in the same place for it to work, 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.240 you know, because they don't have the same energy that 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.640 Twitter had at the beginning. Because everybody's not in the 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:21.120 same place. 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.320 I think the reason why I like Twitter to take 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.160 the truth is because like when, like I said. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.480 When I'm having a good day, they will humble me. 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.000 That's the worst humanity, you know. 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.680 I could post the most positive things in the world 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.079 and somebody black, somebody. 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:38.120 Yes. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.120 And by the way, it works for me because I'm like, 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:41.320 all right, cool, it keeps you humble. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:42.959 I'm off my high horse. You want to be like, 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.079 fuck you right, bular, that's what you want to The 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.720 ig comments are the same, though, is kind of nice 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:49.920 to me. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:51.920 I heard you say something about that. I'm gonna get 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:53.679 to that. But when you was fifteen, you wrote an 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.280 essay of exactly who you was going to be you 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:56.720 grew up. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:57.680 So I wrote an essay. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.360 This was like a Black History Month essay comp Titian 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:04.840 McDonald's was the sponsor, and one of my teachers is like, John, 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.679 you should enter this. You would be good. And so 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.880 the question was just how you plan to make Black history? 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.200 And so I said, I'm going to be a famous artist. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.280 I'm gonna be a famous singer, and then I'm gonna 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:19.000 use my success as a platform to help my people 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.360 to stand up for what's right, stand up for justice. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.720 And that's what I've been doing. Wow, since I manifest 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:29.559 and manifested. I know you did that. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.160 I know you did that for school, But do you 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.920 recommend that kids that age fourteen, fifteen sixty years years 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.120 old write an essay not the cebrity in school. Sure, 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.520 I write an essay of who they should be in 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:40.960 that in the next fifteen years. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:46.000 Absolutely, start setting intentions for yourself at that age, and 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.400 you know, we as parents can start encouraging them to 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:49.959 think about that. 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.080 You know, I don't ask my eight year old what. 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:53.839 She really wants to be when she grows up, Like 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.240 we say it, but we don't really know that they 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.240 know what they want to be yet. But I think 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.160 once they getting those teen years like start, you have 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.320 them set intentions for what they want to do in life. 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.559 And when you set those intentions, you start to put 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:08.880 yourself in that path. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.599 To do it. And I think that's what I was 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.880 thinking and that's what I started doing. Yeah. I did 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.839 a vision board with my six year old this year. 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.160 My wife. You know what a vision board? Ye, same thing. 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.240 It's like manifesting, but you know it's a kid level. 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:21.880 But you start doing little things like that with them, 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:22.960 they start to understand. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.560 Yeah, and once you say it, it makes you want 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.439 to work to it too, you know. And so I 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:29.240 think it's a good thing. 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:33.440 And you would you were what they call a prodigy, Yeah, 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.600 a child producty. Yeah, I skipped a couple of grades. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.679 So I graduated high school when I was sixteen, graduated 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.199 college from houses. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:45.400 Yeah. Yeah. They literally called me Doogie high school. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.120 So I get to high school, I'm twelve years old. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.880 Everybody else is fourteen. They start calling me Doogie. And 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:52.800 but you know, I was a nerdy little kid. I 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:57.480 wanted to read everything, do everything, sing everything, and went 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.319 to Ivy League college afterwards. 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.920 And yeah, yeah, I watched you on OPRAH when you 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.720 went to your your old block. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:07.280 I was literally cold. 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:09.760 I was like, oh my god, you have so much 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.400 snow there ray for Ohio. Man, do you still fun 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:14.960 with the snow? I can't funk with the snow. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.079 I'm good with it. You're good with it? Yeah, fun 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.600 with this too, it's snow. I was just in New York. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:23.240 I love New York. You're from New York. Yes, I 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:27.880 don't go there too? May I mean I heard it 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:28.640 right not to go. 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.280 There, Like I earned the right not to be Like 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.439 I literally kept rewinding your ship and I was like, 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.559 oh my god, I'm so cold, like I can't see 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:36.760 you fun with snow. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.760 Miami right here. I grew up in Ohio. I live 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.719 in l A now. But when I go to the 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:45.920 snow like, I enjoy it. So you missed the snow. 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.400 Sometimes we intentionally will go somewhere cold for like Christmas, 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:49.760 because I. 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.360 Want that Christmas snow feeling. You know, it makes me 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:54.920 feel at home, not me now, he. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:59.679 Said, I see you tracking through it, and ship did you? 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:01.920 Did you you watch the Grammys recently? I was there. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.679 Yeah, so I just played piano. So if you if 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.360 you miss me, I don't blame you. I was just 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.000 playing a piano. We were supporting the. 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.200 Band DAWs Dows. 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:15.959 Their lead singer and their drummer were with us on 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.319 stage and they performed I Love La and it was 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.040 a whole tribute to La to open the show. And 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.959 they lost their homes literally, the lead singer and the 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.199 drummer lost their home. Their family was from there too. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.120 They lost home, and they lost a lot of their 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.400 studio and music equipment. So they lost a lot, and 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.599 so the recording the Academy, we have a lot of 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.160 you know, folks that live in l A and we 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.720 wanted to show love to all those musicians that lost something. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.120 And so Dawes was the lead performance of the show, 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.240 and they had a bunch of us other artists come 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.240 and support them and play. I played piano, Brittany Howard 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:54.480 from the Alabama Shaks played guitar, Brad Paisley played guitar, 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:55.920 Saint Vincent played. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.720 The keys, Cheryl Crowe played the bass, and then we. 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.240 Just supported this band that had lost so much in 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:01.600 the fire. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:03.920 They did a lot of fundraising during that whole Yeah, 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:05.520 they raised like twenty five million dollars. 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.560 Money really gets oh yeah, well twenty five million dollars 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.760 raised and it's going to go to help a lot 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.319 of people. And you know, Music Cares is a part 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.880 of the Recording Academy too, and Music Cares is basically 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.400 the music community supporting each other because not all of us, 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:23.280 you know, we're not all millionaires. A lot of our musicians, 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.840 like they fall on hard times. They're dealing with addiction 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.640 and dealing with loss, something's happening in their lives. 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:29.320 And they need help. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.720 So Music Care supports them all throughout the year every year. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.600 So let me ask you right in Miami, they got 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.840 this scheme that they do right when it rains scheme. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.440 Yeah, that's what I'll be doing out here. I'm watching y'all. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.920 But they're talking about like we all to deal with climate, 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:45.880 like when it. 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.040 Rains, they'll let they'll let their car get flooded or 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.680 whatever and then they'll claim it. 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.000 Oh you talk about it from yeah yeah yeah, So 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.160 hey man, I know the'se gots. 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:03.960 I know people right, but but in their assurance, it's 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.960 a difference between hurricane insurance and flood insurance. 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:09.920 So is that a difference? And there's fire insurances. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.000 That's because because a friend of minee uh left his 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.320 car out in a hurricane and he had he didn't 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.520 have flood insurance. So they said that it wasn't calls 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.840 from a hurricane, it was called from the hef his car. 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.680 Yeah, he tried to be slipped. He should have checked 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.760 his policy before Miami schemers. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.120 Insurance companies their job is to find a way to 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.280 not pay like that's that's their job. 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.360 So you gotta check the fine print. 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.160 You got to check everything with insurance, health insurance, everything. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.680 Their job is the final reason to not pay that. 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.400 So what these California flyers. Do you think people were 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:48.480 insured fire? 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.400 What did they have to Hell, I think a lot 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:50.920 of them were. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:55.880 But even if you are, they only ensure the actual home, 0:15:56.120 --> 0:16:01.440 so it's a land. So see, it's always the loophole, 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.960 So definitely so, But theoretically it makes sense because if 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.560 you lose your home, you still own the property and 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.000 you can build it back, so they'll reimburse you for 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.240 building it back, but they won't buy the land from you, 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.560 So it basically requires you to stay there or sell 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.480 the land to somebody else to really make your money back. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.440 And I heard a lot of people lost their policies. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:26.520 They were canceled before. 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.880 Yes, so some of them got canceled before, and maybe 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.160 they didn't check their mail, they didn't notice that they 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.560 got canceled, and so they find out after the fire they. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.600 Don't have a policy, which is crazy, and then all 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:37.240 the conspiracy. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.640 Yeah, and the thing is what's going to happen more 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.000 and more in Florida, in California and all these places. 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.440 It's going to be hard to ensure a house and 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:47.600 so a lot of people are not going to be 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:48.320 able to buy a house. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:50.520 And it's not because the mortgage. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.960 It's going to be because they can't afford the mortgage 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:53.720 and the insurance. 0:16:53.840 --> 0:17:00.520 Right, Yeah, so you're in the fire, right, I'm not there, 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.880 but you got one bottle of water. Let me tell you, 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:09.760 Let me tell you, Let me tell you, Let me 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:10.040 tell you. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:10.159 How. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:14.160 How we how we experienced the fire. Like we landed 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.240 on January seventh. We had just been on family vacation. 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.000 We heard, oh, there's a fire in the Powersades. We 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.600 didn't know it was going to be huge. With normal, Yeah, 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:25.280 we have fires all the time. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:29.480 In that area, especially Malibus. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:31.400 Malibu is my favorite place. Yeah. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.639 So Malibu is right around the corner from the Powasades, 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.639 and Malibu gets a lot of fires. Palsaids is not 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:39.000 as much. But so we land and we see smoke 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.000 pluming from that area. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:44.040 You think it was we I was like, it's no, 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:51.080 right here, and we literally saw the flame. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.400 Usually when there's fires in l A, I don't see 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:55.800 the flame, Like I see the smoke coming from it, 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:57.520 but I don't see the flame. But I'm looking in 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.879 the hills and I'm like, oh, that's an actual flame. 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.800 And so we're driving back to our houses in Beverly Hills. 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:04.800 So it's between. 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:10.040 The Pasadena fires and the Malibu fires, Palastates fires, and. 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.520 We're like, should we leave, should we get out of here? 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.800 And we never ended up in an evacuation zone, but 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:20.320 when there was a fire in the Hollywood Hills that 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:22.639 fell a little too close for comfort, so we were like, 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.760 we're getting out of here, so we left. We went 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:26.920 down to San Diego for like a week, and then 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.200 we came back home after a week. 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.240 So we didn't lose anything. 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.399 Some of our very good friends lost their home and 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.720 had relatives lose their homes, and a lot of people 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:41.000 just it just got wiped. 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:42.440 Out and it all happened. Most of it happened in 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:43.120 that first. 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.520 Day or two because if you looked at the video, 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.639 it was a hurricane. 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:48.879 Of the wind. 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.080 The wind was blowing as fast as it blows down 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.000 here during a hurricane. It was eighty one hundred miles 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.480 an hours tornadoes in that mo Yeah, it was literally 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.600 whipping the fire around, and it like it looked like 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.760 like a movie, like it couldn't be real, and it 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.680 was insane, and it took over entire areas really fast, 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.000 and I never seen anything like. 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.760 The tragedy was crazy. I hang out with a lot 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.720 of conspiracy theorists. Yeah, I don't believe. Some of my 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:20.639 family I don't believe. I love to listen, I mean 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:22.119 some of these things. And somebody. 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.880 Conspiracy theorists of mines said to me that these were 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:28.280 caused by the way. 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.800 This is not me, This was not me. 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:35.159 This was caused to the areas of the rich so 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.240 that they could rebuild l A and have this smart 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:37.879 l A. 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.080 That's what that's what he thinks, right, what do you 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:42.520 think of that? 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:44.960 No, because they said the fires didn't come to the hood, 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:46.639 is that true or the fires did hit that well, 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.119 it hit a black neighborhood, hit a black outa Dina 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:50.639 so Auta. 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.679 Dina was one of the first neighborhoods in Los Angeles 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:58.679 that allowed black people to actually live there. I didn't I. 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:02.879 Didn't know about this, uh until until the fires. Like 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.800 I didn't know this area, this is Altadena is not 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.600 really close to like a lot of portions of LA 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.480 that's like kind of far northeast near Pasadena. 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:15.800 But there was a black neighborhood there. 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:17.840 And a lot of the folks there are like middle class, 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:22.720 working class, so not everybody was like Hollywood celebrities, but 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:27.560 the Palisades. That's an expensive area, Malibu, extremely expensive. These 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.639 are like some of these are like fifty million, seventy 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:33.800 five million dollar homes and so definitely a lot. 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:37.040 Of rich people got hit. But I have a hard 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:40.040 time believing that somebody intentionally did that. Did it to 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.760 Bill smart La, What does that mean? 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.400 They're saying the same thing, the same conspiracy that happened 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:47.560 in Malway. They said it's a laser that hit to 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:48.640 take that property over. 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:55.720 Yeah, I just hear that. I'm always SKEPTI I'm always skeptical. 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.520 I always feel like usually the most obvious explanation is 0:20:58.560 --> 0:20:59.320 the real explanation. 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:04.200 But I could be wrong. Sometimes it was probably caused 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.320 man made, which the fires. 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.399 Happened accidentally, yeah, or even sometimes it's on purpose. But 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.760 the wind and the dryness just accelerated everything. We hadn't 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:18.160 had rain since like last fall rain Soulls of California, 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:18.600 that's what. 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.840 But we literally we normally would have like they said. 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.000 Five or six inches between October first and when the 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:32.320 fires happened, we had point one six inch, So that 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.240 on its own was an accelerant. And then the wind 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:38.160 was something we almost never see. The Santa Ana winds 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:41.159 at that wind at that speed, So you out there, 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.800 you combine the speed of the wind and the dryness. 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.280 That's why it happened. Were you out there we landed, 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:47.359 you know after it started. 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:47.760 Wow. 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:48.080 Yeah. 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:51.520 But we never were in the fire, so we didn't 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.720 see it up close and personal. But close friends of 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.760 ours were and uh, you know they lost their homes. 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.159 They didn't make you evacuate. No, we were not in 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:02.200 evacuation zone. We were like between evacuation zones. But we 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:03.199 left anyway, just for. 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.159 A little bit. There's people that lost everything. 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.680 Be honest, I thought New Yorkers was stubborn until I 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:09.520 moved to Miami. 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:13.560 They won't move for the hurricane. You're like, hurricane is 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:17.040 going to kill everybody. They don't really tell everyone is 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.800 gonna die in Miami. They were like, it's okay, I 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:24.760 guess sawtcula go to home. People in public about to 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.879 get you, and then the ship goes out with listen, yo, 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:29.679 but y'all take it. You'll take it too far. Soon 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:30.520 as it's a hurricane. 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:34.879 They rack up hurricane party hurricane parties. 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.399 The nigga store is gone. They're used to it here many. 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:43.040 Now I'm gonna be honest with you, John Legend, you 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:44.479 look like you never had a bad day. 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:48.560 I'm gonna be honest. I'm a little jealous. Man. 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:53.200 I look at you, and you look stressed. Fucking you 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:56.800 look like nothing you have had bad days. 0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:00.760 But I would say I am probably one of the 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.200 most kind of, like even killed people you'll ever meet. 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.080 I don't have a lot of I don't get really 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:10.600 angry very often. I am as chill as you think. 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:19.040 And he compares me, song compares me to Seinfeld because 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:20.600 there's this episode of Seinfeld. 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:22.040 Show me the episode I'm ready for it. 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:25.119 Where they say everything always evens out for Jerry. 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:25.880 Oh yeah, because. 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:39.680 Yeah, Son always called me Seinfeld because he's like, everything 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.640 always evens out for you. Man, you got something happened, 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:46.280 something some for some reason, it just always evens out. 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:52.920 So I don't know, Oh my god, oh my god. 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:55.840 Hang out with you, then that's that's my that's you 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:57.880 watched Kirby Enthusiasm. 0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:58.119 Yes, I love it. 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.639 Oh that's my favorite ship. I love shows a lot. 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.680 I've seen every episode. Okay, yeah, which one you will pick? 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:06.320 Curb or or side fel. 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.920 Or Curb Curb? I mean too Yeah, most people would 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:14.840 say I can love. I'm sorry, man. I love Larry David. Man, 0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.600 I'm love I love them. I love so much. 0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:19.159 I don't want to meet him because if I meet 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.280 him and he'd be like, hey, what the fuck, I'm like, oh. 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:24.800 Man, his whole persona is that he probably wouldn't be 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:27.200 nice to you when you met him, and so you're like, 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:28.960 maybe that is being. 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:30.399 Nice being not nice to Like. 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.959 I was like, it's this restaurant called Club I mean 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:37.560 Hotel COASTI is in Paris. Yeah, very nasty people like 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.760 they're like a little French root the French Route. And 0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.080 one time I went there on my birthday and they 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:46.200 were nice to me, and I would say, this is 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:52.639 not what I paid for. You're like to me, they 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:54.520 got a cigarette when I used to smoke cigarettes and 0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:55.879 have a cigarettes section all that. 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:57.320 And it was nice to me. One time I didn't 0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:01.760 like it. Yeah. Yeah, I was on Larry David show. 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:02.040 I was. 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.000 I did a guest of parents on he was. He 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:08.800 was nice then, and but I hung out mostly with Jeff. 0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:13.520 And uh Susie yeah yeah yeah yeah, the lady with 0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:15.040 the bad mouth and the manager. 0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.920 Yes. So so what episode was this? This was the 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.840 bot Mitzvah. I was singing at the bat Mitzvah for 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.600 their daughter. Uh and uh. 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:26.159 The conceit of the show was that I was one 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.879 of Jeff's clients and he got me to sing at 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:29.520 the bat Mitzvah. 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:31.240 So I sang a song there. This is early, like 0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.600 six early in my career. But that was cool. 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:36.200 And I just sat there and talked to Jeff and 0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:37.960 Susie the whole time, and they had me cracking up. 0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.720 Like, yeah, they were funny, Okay, yeah, they were really funny. 0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:42.920 Now you also got to do a movie with the 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:46.760 late great Bernie Mack. Yes, so man, Yeah, you know, 0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.840 you know one of the best lines I ever heard 0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.240 in the world is in that movie when Bernie Mack 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:56.760 moves into the old folks home behind and Mike f says, 0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:58.480 you know, because now you can spend some time with 0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:00.760 the kids, and Bernie Mack looks to him with all 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:01.439 honesty and. 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:07.640 Says, that's an iconic line. That line has been used 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:11.880 since then. But how was me and Bertie Mack? 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:12.080 Oh? 0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:13.879 Man, he was funny too in person. 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:16.440 You know some comedians they're not funny in person because 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.080 they they it's like they're saving it for the stage. 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:19.800 Because he's himself. 0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.080 You can sell Yeah, I have another it's like they're 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.359 saving it for the stage. But Bernie was really funny 0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.600 in person. Jeff and Susie were very funny in person. 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.040 And then some people they like they clam up and 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:31.639 they don't give you no jokes until you see him 0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:32.080 on stage. 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:36.480 Yeah, you never met Prince. Yeah, I met Prince. I 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:40.359 met Prince of Future. I didn't. I didn't know whatever 0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:40.760 the story. 0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:49.680 Let's put my seatbelt. That's kind of like I was 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.880 about to ask you did he float? Did he float? 0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:52.480 When you met him? 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:57.160 I was starstruck. This is one of the first big 0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:01.000 celebrities I met that I really like, truly was starstruck 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:04.320 when I met him. As out Prince on no ass out, 0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:12.600 his ass was in. I'm sorry. He was close. So 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.200 at the time he was signed to the same label 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:15.520 I was. 0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:19.320 He was at Columbia Sony Urban and we had the 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.840 same exact Lisa Ellis and he was doing a concert 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:28.000 at MSG and Lisa was like, you want to come 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.760 see friends. I was like yeah, so and then he 0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:36.160 did an after party at bb King's and he he Princess, 0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.159 the craziest musician because he'll do the whole show and 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:40.760 then go play the after party. 0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:41.479 Uh. 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.800 He he would do a three hour show and then 0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.000 go play at the after party. 0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.280 I've never seen anybody that just loved playing music and 0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.280 kept playing music, kept playing music like he did. 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.520 And it was amazing seeing him. 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:56.600 The first time I met him, he was just like, 0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:58.879 you know, he was on that protect your rights, make 0:27:58.920 --> 0:27:59.520 sure you get. 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.119 Your master's black when you can all that. 0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.520 And then the next time I saw him, he had 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.440 one of those after parties that he had after the 0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.879 Grammys or the Oscars in l A. And uh it 0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.720 was a jam session and a bunch of artists were 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:13.760 there and I got up. 0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.840 On stage and jam with him, and STEVEE was there, 0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:22.200 and uh it was fun. Man, God damn me. Before 0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:26.040 I get to the Eguy, Michael Jackson met Micah. 0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:28.320 Yeah, I met Mike. I met Mike, and Bahrain put 0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.200 back on my hand weird. So this is where he 0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:31.760 was living. 0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.040 So he was dealing with all his you know, legal things, 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.280 and uh, he was living in Bahrain for a while. 0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:40.800 Over in the Middle East. It's in the Middle East. 0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:44.239 It's overbody like Saudi Arabia and uh, and uh they 0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.760 were having an F one uh event over there, and 0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.080 they had like a celebrity invitational and they were like 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.200 just trying to get celebrities to come to the F 0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.360 one and I was a new celebrity. I was like, yeah, 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.240 I'll go to Bahrain on whatever. I heard Michael Jackson, 0:28:58.640 --> 0:28:59.960 we might get to meet Michael Jackson. 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:04.360 And then, uh, the Crown Prince has a dinner. 0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.800 At one of his homes and Michael Jackson just walks 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.880 in and I sit there and it was like a 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:15.760 few like round tables, and I'm sitting at the round 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:17.240 table where Mike's. 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.640 Sitting and We're all just sitting there talking, talking about 0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:24.800 music whatever. You don't remember the subject we talked. 0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:27.840 We talked about We talked about music, we talked about 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.840 you know, life. I don't know. Is it true about 0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:31.200 his voice? 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.760 He said that he when he were normal, Yeah, he 0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:35.760 just he doesn't have the same high pitched voice. 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:39.480 It was still pretty. It wasn't deep, Nah, it wasn't deep. 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.080 It was you know, walking night. 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:45.840 You know, the pictures with Michael Jackson would have grip 0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.760 stories about him not created. He fought all kinds of 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:50.760 Mike get crazy. 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:57.040 I'm glad I don't hear a lot of conspiracies. They're fun. 0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:05.080 Am I here the debunk Conspiracy Factor fiction with John. 0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.400 So John leszend. We want you to know, man, our 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.040 show is about giving people the flowers. 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:16.840 Appreciate you. I love the show, but we want to 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:23.840 give you your flowers. Thank you, thank you, thank you. 0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.520 For it matches my wine bottles too. You know this 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.640 is my l B E wine and it matches perfect. 0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:31.800 So it's not love, it's l v E. Yeah, we 0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.200 call LB, but it's been calling it love too. You 0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:35.400 can call love to all right? 0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:40.440 Cool? You ever drink Whispering Angel? Yeah, this Whispering Angel killer, 0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:42.440 it's better. You know what I'm saying. It's the killer. 0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:49.520 It's the killer, the killer Whisper better better than LV. 0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.000 I've tried it plenty of times and and ours is 0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.960 better than their. Yes, fact, Just to say, what did 0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:00.280 you drink Whispering Age? Drying France? I've drank like the 0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:08.920 Hampton's France Rich Rich in France. I try to do French, 0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:12.560 you know brands out there, but now we're doing LV. 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.560 Man, that's the only one we're doing. Ours is French too, though, 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:16.920 What do you drink in France? 0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:17.320 What does it? 0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:22.720 Well, I drink a lot of Burgundy wines. So my 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.200 partner in this wine is a Frenchman. His name is 0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:25.560 Jean ch. 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:32.520 Rich money to hold. 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.800 So he grew up in Burgundy in France, and so 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.000 his family has been making wine forever and so. 0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.440 So he's my he's my connect in France. So how 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.320 did you come up with the wines? Let's talk about that. Yeah, 0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.640 that's a cabernet. Yeah, that's a cabernet. We got a rose. 0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.040 We got a sparkling rose. We got a sparkling white. 0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:52.680 We got uh, chardonnay, sauvignon blanc. We got a nice range. 0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:56.480 No, uh, we do have a small run of pinoa, 0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:02.880 not a lot of you know, it's just right now. No, great, ye. 0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.240 So look, we're gonna want to splain them in the 0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:06.160 rules quick time. 0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.840 You got right? Are you ready? You got you gotta 0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:13.920 ask him what he would like to drink? Please? What 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:20.280 we got? Yeah, I'll do shots? Yeah, I take mins chilled? 0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.800 All right, remind me of rules of again. Let's go. 0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.480 So we're gonna give you two choices. This is to 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.920 bring up any stories you got with anybody. But if 0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:31.680 you pick one, we don't drink, don't pick drink. Okay, 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:33.560 so you say, but I just got to commit one 0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.600 way that h we drink with you got there? 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:40.120 Yeah yeah, we haven't we having fun, so I gotta 0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:43.240 set it off off Okay, Yeah, this is not waiting 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:43.800 for my shots. 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:49.760 Okay, yeah, yeah, Okay, I think I said I like this. 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:53.600 You're ready with the shots coming? 0:32:53.880 --> 0:33:01.080 Okay, Chris Brown or Asha, I'm gonna say Usher, okay 0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:04.360 because the roller skates, because. 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.560 Of the rollers, both of them are like supremely talented. 0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:11.880 But I was on tour with Usher. Me and Kanye 0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.360 were opening for Usher. This is like, this is the 0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:19.479 Confessions era Usher. So this is right after College Dropout 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.400 came out and right before Get Lifted my album came out, 0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.920 and Usher's, you know, on top of the world, eight 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:31.320 million albums sold, and he's touring arenas for Confessions. 0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.440 And we're opening for him. So I'm seeing the work 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.640 he's putting in every day getting the show right. And 0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:38.800 I see that same. 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:42.200 Level of work ethic and effort and then just pure 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.880 talent from him still twenty years later. 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:47.480 So I'm a Usher fan for life. You don't go 0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.680 to take a shot because you're right picked. But let 0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:53.040 me ask you a question. This is off catalog. Your 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.720 lady asks you to go to Usher concert. Huh and 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:56.880 Usher comes over. 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:09.919 Like Kiki, Yeah, ushers out here ruining relationship ship and strawberries. 0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:15.960 He sees, your lady, are you getting is John Legend? Well, 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.080 the thing is I slow danced with women on my stage. 0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:26.759 I understand the guy. I respect the game. You know, 0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:31.560 he's like a show business business show business. It's cool, 0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:35.120 but it's cool. She's not coming up volunteering her. 0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:41.600 But I respect the game because he literally ruined short 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:42.440 these relationships. 0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.600 Oh boy, he left like he one girl. 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:51.520 It was Keky's baby's father. And uh they weren't married, 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:55.439 but you know he he wasn't happy. She was having 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:56.040 too much fun. 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:58.839 Who side was you on? He was you on his side? 0:34:59.400 --> 0:34:59.919 Unher soide? 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.440 He like, oh Swiss bell swims. 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.440 I said, what up? I just saw him Sunday, But 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:10.759 uh listen, Uh like, I say, you got it. That's 0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:11.120 the game. 0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.439 It's a show man like he did it in front 0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:15.680 of everybody. She was sneaking up to his hotel room. 0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.439 It's like in front of everybody. This is fine, it's good. 0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:27.719 Your arm b Niggs don't leave your girl. He a 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:32.680 song Sidney Poitier or Harry Belafonte. 0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.680 I gotta go with my guy Harry, because I was 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.480 close with him before he passed away. I didn't really 0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.120 I met mister Partier, but I spent a lot of 0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:43.919 time in mister Bellafonte. 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.080 And him both missed up. Yeah. 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:50.680 Uh, we really called him mister b and like he 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.600 was the example of how to be an activist and 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:58.160 an artist. And uh he took a lot of classy dudes. Yeah, 0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:02.480 a classy like extremely talented, and he was the biggest 0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.520 selling artist of his era. Like when he was big, 0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:09.160 he was bigger than everybody. And so for him to 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.200 take that and then put it on the line so 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:12.760 he could. 0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:16.080 Support doctor King and do what everything he did, Like 0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:17.399 I always look up to him. 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:22.759 He picked. Yeah, Okay, Patti LaBelle or Tina Turner. 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:29.800 Miss Patty that's right, Yeah, I mean Tina was extremely talented. 0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.200 But I just like Miss Patty's music more. It's like 0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:33.680 more more of my speed. 0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.160 Yeah. And I love to drink yeah, and I love 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:41.520 Miss Patty. She came on drinking chance for her own glass. Yes, 0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:46.279 when you spent time with her, she's so real so real. Yeah, 0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.560 like I love her, I really love her. Jada kiss 0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.799 or Nas, I'm ready to drink. 0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:56.680 I'm gonna say this is that this is not easy. Actually, 0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:04.320 I'm gonna say Nas, Okay, we ain't drinking at all today, Okay, 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:04.680 this one. 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:06.279 I've done records with both of them, and I love 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:06.879 both of them. 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.439 I think I just like NAS's voice just a little better, 0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.480 like this, his flow and his voice just a little better. 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:17.279 But Shade is incredible, y'all all you Nas, all of 0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:18.680 y'all go to light skin karate class. 0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:24.080 I know, I know about y'all. I know about meeting meaning. 0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:40.160 You can't drink out Franklin or Nina Simon. I might 0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.319 drink on this, man. I don't know if I could pick. 0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.160 These are two of my favorites of all time. 0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:52.200 Uh, I'm gonna say, Nina Simon, Oh you don't drink shot, 0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:53.080 don't take a shot. 0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.760 I take a shot for these are the smallest shots. 0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:58.440 Usually it's a lot of shots. It's a long game. 0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.279 We didn't think. We didn't think. We thought she was 0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.600 going to be like very well correct. Don't know, man, 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.759 I'm telling you my truth. He saying that shit was 0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:08.600 hot as hell, yeah, you want it Whitney Houston or 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:12.840 Amy Winehouse Whitney. That was easy. I should take a 0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.319 shot for knowing that I love Amy though I love 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:19.520 her music. I met her. I met Amy when she 0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.160 was brand like when that Back. 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.080 To Black album, So she had already had another album 0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.319 that didn't really pop, and then the Back to Black 0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.160 album was about to come out, and I was on 0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.200 later with Jules Holland, which is a British show which 0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:34.440 I love. And the show is just different artists in 0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:36.880 like the round, and so one band will play and 0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:38.480 then another band will play, and then the other band 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.759 all play and they're all five or six bands in 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:44.239 this room together in this big studio in London, and 0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.200 Amy and I were both on the set, and so 0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.120 she had a couple of her songs, she did Rehab 0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:52.399 and something else from. 0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:53.480 That album, and then I. 0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:55.960 Did a couple songs from my second album, and she 0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.160 walked up to me like like she was a brand 0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.880 new writers, like handing me her a demo and handing 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.120 me Back to Black, which ended up, you know, taking 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.120 over the world right after that, but at that point 0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:09.040 it hadn't done that yet and it was about to. 0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:13.959 But that's when I first met him. Wow, yeah, Sam 0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:18.879 Cook or Teddy Pintograph mm hmmm taking a shot. 0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:26.879 It's not easy. I'm gonna say Teddy just because there's 0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.800 just more jams that I love, you know. Yeah, you 0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.680 see look at Teddy Pograd. Baby, that's a Philly man. 0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:33.880 You know. 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:37.000 He uh fly Eagles Fly? Is this gonna air after 0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:37.719 the super Bowl? Yeah? 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:39.520 This would be at the super Bowl. Yeah, you knows 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:41.920 what happened. I'm over the Chiefs. 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:42.320 You know. 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:44.480 If I got to choose, you patched him my home cousin. 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:57.600 I got family look more like Jayleen Hurston. But I 0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.200 went to scoring Philly. I went to you, that's right. Yeah, 0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:04.080 so I got you know, yeah, I got love for Philly. 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.200 Okay, Jesus man, Philly. Get to the kig on like 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:13.920 that Biggie or Big L Biggie. I never was like 0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.600 completely into Big L like, but I was definitely into Biggie. Okay, 0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:25.400 DJ College or DJ Drama. I gotta go with College man. 0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:30.040 I did like twenty records with College and legendary record 0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.719 with niy Hustle exactly believe that was his last video 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.520 and to take it all the way back, we did 0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:41.000 a record with good music me a consequence. We did 0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.760 a record called Grammy Family with Collein. 0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:44.720 That's a big record. 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.239 That was like when that was the early days when 0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:52.520 Colin first started making those compilation albums, and uh, he 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.279 didn't win a Grammy. Colin didn't win a Grammy until 0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:58.439 we wanted together with Nipsey for Hire. 0:40:58.760 --> 0:40:59.280 Oh wow. 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:02.239 It was called the Grammy Fan and the early record 0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:04.840 was called Grammy Family. But years later we wanted his 0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:05.840 first Grammy together. 0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:12.600 I needed this is any criteria you want Yay or Pharrell? Mhmm, 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:17.560 I say Yay, Okay, yeah right. 0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:27.080 I just started working with Pharrell recently, yeah, on music. 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:29.759 So we stepped in the studio and we started working 0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:31.399 on some new music. First time working together. 0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:33.320 We'd only done a couple of songs together. 0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.640 Okay, but you know, obviously Yay and I have done 0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:39.120 a thousand records together, and I'm truly a fan of 0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.960 Yay as a producer and an artist over the years too. 0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:43.520 So, but I love both of them. 0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.800 I mean, just think how influential both of them have 0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.480 been to all of our culture, not just what we 0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.120 listened to, what we wear everything. 0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:54.359 It sounds like we're taking a shot, no, he picked 0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.560 a okay, okay, okay, so like we're taking it like a. 0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:56.960 Like a. 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:05.960 Honorable shot. Let's mean you take a shot and oh 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:13.040 ship okay, yes, La or Miami. Mm hmm. 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:20.400 Well I live in l A, and I think Miami. 0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:24.239 I enjoy partying here more than I do l A. 0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:26.840 But I live in LA. It's like, you know, my 0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.759 kids go to school there, l A. 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:35.680 Like you want to say, Miami's more Miami's more fun 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:38.120 in doses, and then La. 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:39.120 Is where I stay. 0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:44.920 Okay, it's all you, this is me sein fell a 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:49.600 Kirby enthusiasm. We've established this curb. Yeah, yes, but let's 0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:50.560 explain to the people why. 0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.640 Well, I think the fact that on HBO gives it 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.400 more leeway to like say all the jokes, you know, 0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.200 say all the funks they want to say, and everything else. 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.920 But also I think us getting to know Larry, who 0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:08.160 was the creator of exactly, I think that was a revelation. 0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.160 So I think that's what makes kurb better is his 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:15.239 his personality. Because George was always a really funny part 0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:16.480 of Seinfeld anyway. 0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:20.360 But having the real George, having Larry there is. 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.759 Like it makes it better, all right. 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:25.120 Now I want to ask you what is your favorite 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.800 Seinfeld episode and what is your favorite curb episode? 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.239 Now this is this is not with drink Chance, but 0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:33.960 one in one. I don't know, that's a good one. 0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:38.680 I like the one where they're doing the contests in Seinfeld. 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.000 That's a good one where they're like seeing who's going 0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:41.719 jack off first? 0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:49.840 Oh yeah, come out you were JBS? Move is Kramer? 0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.000 And yeah like that? 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:56.160 Yes, he's like the black you went with the episode? Yes, 0:43:57.280 --> 0:44:06.719 se felt it's called the con. Now that's your favorite curve? 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:13.360 My favorite curve? Oh, man, I gotta think about that. 0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:22.000 I don't know, I really have to think about it. 0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.160 You know what my favorite curve when they he hired 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.600 the people to be Christians in front. 0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:33.440 Of down and the Nativity said, because you know he's Jewish, 0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.920 so he hired Christian, but his wife is Christian. His 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:39.080 wife is Christian Christian, and I think he didn't feed 0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:44.200 them or something wrong. So that's my favorite. If you 0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.640 think about it, we'll come back to yes. The next one. 0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:49.640 Swiss Beachs are Timberland. 0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:55.560 I'm gonna say Tim, it's fucked up because I know 0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:58.880 all these people very well, so. 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:03.200 I'm gonna see yes, I'll say Tim. 0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:08.279 Honestly, there's more Tim records that I'm like, are some 0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.040 of the greatest records of all time? That then I 0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.600 think of Swiss, But I love a bunch of Swiss 0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:17.520 records too. But I'm gonna say Tim. Okay, Most Deaf 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:22.280 or to Live, Most Deaf or Black Dog Black Dot Okay. 0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:27.920 I just think if Most was still giving us material 0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:32.520 then it would be closer. But I think because Black 0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:36.880 Dot has been so prolific, h and consistent and prolific. 0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.920 Uh, you got to show up? Is this show biz? Man? 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:44.040 If you show up and you're making records, then like, uh, 0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:46.480 there's there's points. 0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:49.400 For that, you know, like the montaue to show up? Okay, 0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:51.120 analog of digital? 0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:58.160 Well, we we run everything through analog before we put 0:45:58.200 --> 0:45:58.800 it on digital. 0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:01.480 To this day, we run it through the tape. Really. 0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.040 Yeah, when I make a record, we run it through 0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:05.240 the tape first and then. 0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:08.239 Put it to digital. We say tape you meet real, Yeah, 0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:10.960 get the out of school, Yeah yo, let me make 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:18.840 some noise. You know. Cartel said that yesterday too on 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.799 the rail Oh ship. Yeah, you can run into tape 0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:25.640 before you put it on digital. Oh man, So there's 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:27.920 best of both. It just gives it that flavor. That 0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:30.800 home you picked that digital. I'm goinging analog. 0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:32.040 Thank you. 0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:36.839 That's not going all the time. Marvin Gay or Al Green, Marvin, Damn, 0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:37.600 It's easy. 0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.840 I was flying through this. I'm just willing to commit. 0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.560 You know, I'm gonna make it, even if I like 0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:45.600 I might have second thoughts later, I'm gonna decide, you know, 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:54.800 Dre or Quincy Jones. Oh, it's like apples and oranges. 0:46:55.360 --> 0:47:01.080 But I'm gonna say Quincy just the range of probably musicianship, 0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:05.480 you know, because you think about Quincy's career. He was 0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:09.759 producing and arranging and composing for Frank Sinatra and Ray 0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:14.719 Charles in the fifties and sixties, and then giving us 0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:19.640 Thriller in the eighties, and to me and everybody else 0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:21.359 and all the R and B artists he produced over 0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:25.840 the years. Nancy Sinatra, he did everything, so just the breadth. 0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:27.920 Of work he was able to do. Yeahgazine, heay, he. 0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:32.960 Produced a fresh Prince of bel air, roots, color purple. 0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.480 He just gave us everything. Yeah, thanks one. 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:45.040 Get lifted or my favorite dream, get lifted. It's a 0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:53.759 good segue. Let's promote get listed. Twenty years so this 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.640 is the twentieth anniversary. It gets listed right now. And 0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:00.120 we just did the luxe edition of the album with 0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:03.360 the original album first, but then a whole extra album, 0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:05.560 the whole I did it all over, Yeah, a whole 0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:08.279 extra album of remixes. So I did The Ordinary People 0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:09.880 with Thames, the APPROB version. 0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:14.200 I did Approb version of Refuge with Semi. 0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:17.200 Both of them are from Nigeria. And then I did 0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:20.080 a couple of hip hop remixes. I did Black Thought 0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:22.680 on used to Love You with ninth Wonder I'm making 0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:27.560 the B and then uh You making the ninth d Yeah, 0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:31.640 and then on Let's Get Lifted Again, I had Killer 0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:35.040 Mike and Lil Wayne each do a verse and uh 0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:38.400 So the remixes are dope, but we have the original 0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.600 versions first, and then at the end of the album. 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:44.640 You can listen to the remixes. M that's fine, m 0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:46.120 J or Prince. 0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:57.160 Childhood. Tell this is a shot A you got four 0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:59.080 shots us to do four times at least. 0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:03.640 I'm gonna say both MJ. 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:09.400 If I'm just going record for record, like the songs 0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.040 that had the most impact in. 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:16.120 My life, I feel like MJ had more. They say, 0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:23.600 they say MJ is just as famous as Jesus. 0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:28.480 Do you believe that now at his peak, at his peak, yeah, 0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.520 I'm sure, yeah, yes, but if you ask a kid now, 0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:35.080 like I don't know, but during that time, he was everything. 0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:39.400 Like the first like merch I ever had was a 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.960 Michael Jackson Thriller folder for school. 0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:48.520 Zipper jacket. Yeah, zip jacket too. You look like you 0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:52.520 had to go. Yeah, so you definitely had. 0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:54.879 I was born in seventy eight, so I was born 0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:57.480 in seventy eight, so my first time going to school 0:49:57.600 --> 0:49:59.480 was like mid eighties, and like. 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.799 That was everything when Thriller, when that video came out. 0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:06.879 My parents were very religious, so Prince they like thought 0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:09.479 Prince was a little too like uh crazy, a little 0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:13.600 too wild he was. Yeah, so he was like forbidden 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:16.200 through at the house for a while. But MJ, you know, 0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:17.120 we could get away with that. 0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:19.960 That's just great because both of them had very religious families. Yeah, 0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:23.880 and Prince was very religious. Yea, Prince became even more religious. 0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:26.520 I think it was Jehoah's witness. Our Seventh Day venis 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:31.000 one of Stevie Wonder or Smokey Robinson, Stevie you know. 0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:33.560 Snoop Dogg said that Stevie wants face thoms him. 0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:43.839 Yeah, Steevie facetimes, what's just the one that Georgie Clinton. 0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:46.040 Jorine Clinton said that he saw him across the busy street. 0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:54.440 Everybody's got everybody got Stevie. Give everybody. Everybody's got Stevie's 0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:54.920 not blind. 0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:55.400 Stories. 0:50:56.920 --> 0:51:00.239 Shaq said he seen he seen Stevie getting the elevator, said, 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:01.480 what's up, Diesel. 0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:09.640 Black. I don't remember that bar, but we need to No, I. 0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:12.800 Mean, everybody's got him. Like, but I went to his studio. 0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:15.880 You've seen him rolling up and he was just walking 0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.200 around like like he was seeing everything. 0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:21.520 But it was also his studio, so so like he's 0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:27.000 he's been there a lot. He walking around. 0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:31.640 He's literally blind, but he's actually not one hundred percent 0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:32.719 blind because I don't know. 0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:37.239 I don't know. I never asked. I never had when 0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:40.120 I never asked. 0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:44.160 Because men, the stories are crazy. Stevie family calling him like. 0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:49.040 We spoke about him almost every but he likes to 0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:51.640 make jokes about it too, Like he makes blind jokes 0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:52.239 all the time. 0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:55.200 He has blind jokes all the time. He'll just say 0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.440 like yeah, I'll drive over there, I'll see you when 0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:02.520 I like he'll drive over because Oprah board him with 0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:05.280 may back. He said he was gonna I'm dropping exactly. 0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:07.239 He says it all the time, though he'll joke about 0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:07.719 it all the time. 0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:09.680 We would love to have him one, but I've never 0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:14.560 asked him. Stevie, be real with me, are you really blind? 0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:19.279 You're pulling? You know what's crazy. Like most blind people, 0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:21.719 they feel your face to see how you you look. 0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:25.600 I've never seen Steve. Steve touch anybody's face. I've never 0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:28.359 seen I'm just being I love. I mean, you see 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:30.480 him as a famous person. He's had someone next to 0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:31.399 me like you're about to see. 0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:36.400 Yeah, he's always got somebody next to her. All right. 0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:43.759 If I'm betting, I'm betting he's blind. Okay, okay, Uh, 0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:49.840 Brothers of the Parliament, Isaacs. Just more records that you 0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:50.759 know resonate with me. 0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:54.200 Tony Tony Tony or BBD Tony Tony. 0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:56.320 Tony, same answer, More records that resonate me. 0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:59.080 I mean, I'm I'm close with Raphael too, and he's 0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:00.440 produced a couple of my albums. 0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:01.840 And uh and. 0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:06.239 Raphael sadiqu the you know, lead singer and one of 0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:08.000 the great producers. He's just one Album of the Year 0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:11.160 with with Beyonce for the country album. Uh, he was 0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:12.920 part of that, and he's part of that and part 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:16.360 of renaissance, and he's a part of everything like that. 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:22.160 You don't even know, like di'angelo Lady Untitled by di'angelo, 0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:24.040 like some of the great R and B records of 0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:25.160 all time, he's behind. 0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:27.440 And then all those Tony Tony records. 0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:31.640 Are amazing too, great new addition or BBD No, No 0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:36.440 Jackson five, Jackson five, my bad Jackson Fine, Okay, it's 0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:37.320 the guys from Boston. 0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:42.600 He's mad Tony, Tony Tony or BBD. I know we 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:49.279 did that one. We did that one. Hmm. I'm gonna 0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:53.440 say Rion Alicia is my friend too. 0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:57.239 But as a fan just listening, I probably listened to 0:53:57.360 --> 0:54:01.000 Rihanna Moore and again more records that I'm like in 0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:01.919 love with of hers. 0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:05.640 Yeah, y'all got a couples b something you just swiss 0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:09.200 And no, man, I don't really love both of them. Man, 0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.640 I truly love both of them. They're like wonderful people. 0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:15.480 I'm just speaking as like a as a as a 0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:16.799 non biased man. 0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:23.600 And they both drink chancelortle. Oh soul man coming to America. Oh, 0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:26.359 coming to America. This is coming into America too. They 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:30.040 put yes, oh coming to America too. Wow, so man, 0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:35.120 we'll good it to so man. Both movies. 0:54:35.920 --> 0:54:38.920 Those are both Malcolm Lee movies because you SWI Okay, 0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:43.240 oh shot, that's my guy, Malcolm Lee. He just texted 0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:43.719 me this week. 0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:48.280 All right. This last question they get back in the interviews, 0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:54.160 loyalty or respect? Mm hmm. 0:54:55.239 --> 0:55:05.360 I'm gonna say that's a good question, m respect. And 0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:09.759 the reason why I will say I think I think 0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:14.400 we should want respect more than we want loyalty from people, 0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:20.600 just because, first of all, respect will come with loyalty anyway, but. 0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:24.040 I want. 0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:30.320 Sometimes loyalty can bleed over into being blind loyalty and 0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:35.920 people not telling you what you don't want to hear, etcetera, etcetera. 0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:41.240 So like yes, man, yeah, so I would rather have respect. Okay, 0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:48.279 this makes noise for that, John Legend. I'm gonna tell 0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:50.279 you something. I'm not sure if anybody ever told you this. 0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:53.360 I think you should run for president. 0:55:54.800 --> 0:55:57.360 No, someone has told me that before a few times, 0:55:57.440 --> 0:56:03.520 but I don't think I have put coporations. Look you, honestly, 0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:04.680 I love California. 0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:08.640 I love being involved in everything, and I'll stay involved, 0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:12.280 but I just feel like I would not enjoy running 0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:15.920 for it or being at Let's let's say you. 0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.080 Let's just say you you did like you woke up 0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:25.000 the next day tomorrow and I'm tomorrow, I'm gona run 0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:27.520 for president. Who would be your vice president? 0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:28.880 Who would you? I don't know? 0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:33.200 She got real? 0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:38.480 So seriously, who who? Who you pick? 0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:39.719 Who? Right now? 0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:43.960 Like tomorrow, I don't know now, I don't know loaded 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:49.239 would it be dope if you was to pick Barack? Yo? 0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:55.440 I just feel like backs my man pronounced it, Barack 0:56:55.520 --> 0:57:00.479 Obama Obama? Sure would that would that'd be crazy? John 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:02.680 legend run of a fucking president? 0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:03.120 Yeah? 0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:05.480 And Borack come out he quit walking or something like. 0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:06.759 You know what I'm saying, like he do something like 0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:07.759 coming out to be. 0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:12.400 You know, I'm not bad. You know, I'm going over 0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:19.919 to place. I'm excited. I'm excited. Lexic kids, Who would 0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:23.120 you pick? Who would you pick? You know? 0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:27.160 I feel like it shouldn't be a celebrity, No, no, no, whatever. 0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:29.640 If it's going to be me, it shouldn't be a 0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:32.440 celebrity that it should be a politician. Yeah, that may 0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:35.640 be so so let's get wild. Let's George Clinton or somebody. 0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:41.200 I'm just just your choice. I'm sorry. 0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:50.680 Uh, Kerrie Washington, she's an actor, okay, yeah, playing president 0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:51.880 she was a scandal. 0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:55.040 She was a scandal. Okay. Well the thing about Carrie 0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:56.200 is I've seen her. 0:57:56.280 --> 0:58:00.200 Behind the scenes and she's like really politically aware, and 0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:04.960 she's really great at organizing and motivating people, and she 0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:07.720 would be amazing and she's a great communicator. 0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:11.480 Okay, I thought that through. You can give him. I'm 0:58:11.520 --> 0:58:13.840 thinking for I think he's gonna pick for real. You 0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:15.360 wanted to make the best beats for the way out? 0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:24.480 This should be being wrong, yes, okay, all right, twenty nineteen. 0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:26.600 How many haters did you get? 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:32.680 Of course of this cover? So many see now this 0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:33.400 is this is. 0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:37.240 When if I was on Twitter. I was on Twitter 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:40.800 back then, and I made an intentional choice to not 0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:41.959 check my Twitter. 0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:44.160 It wasn't on black Twitter when this game. I did 0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:47.760 not check my Twitter when that cover came out. It 0:58:47.840 --> 0:58:49.680 was gonna be because I knew it's not gonna be 0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:54.400 nice because there's no win situation for you. 0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:57.000 Becuzin some people are like, hey, great, but most people 0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:58.400 are gonna be like fuck him. 0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:01.120 Somebody else should have won. And then and then they 0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:04.080 let all the other people that should have won. So 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:05.120 I'm like, fuck, y'all, I'm not. 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:10.000 Reading your tweets, but how did they call you for 0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:10.640 this couple? 0:59:11.120 --> 0:59:15.120 My publicist called me and they're they're like, we got 0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:15.760 big news. 0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:18.960 John, Let's take a shot for you. That's not a 0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:21.360 part of the show. I was just taking a shot 0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:23.600 the sexiest man alive. 0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:25.400 Jesus Holy Ship. 0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:28.960 They said we got big news, and I was like really, 0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:33.800 And I was already thinking like, oh man, I'm gonna 0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:34.640 get so much ship for this. 0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:37.440 But I was like, all right, let's do it. And 0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:39.240 so then they set up the photo shoot. They did 0:59:39.280 --> 0:59:39.680 the whole thing. 0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:42.320 Did that at our house, and you know you did 0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:44.720 the photo shoot. Yeah, the help come to me. Did 0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:47.480 you charge you for that? We usually do charge like 0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:58.720 a location field. Goddamn, you gotta double it. We gotta 0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:01.160 talk about EGOT. Yeah, all right, listen, I'm gonna be 1:00:01.160 --> 1:00:04.720 honest with you. You're probably the only EGOT Award winner 1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:06.479 I'm ever gonna meet, not life. 1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:10.280 Well, you could meet Jennifer Hudson. You can bet Jennifer 1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:13.000 she is now. She might not have been when you 1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:14.680 met definitely. 1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:19.480 The first here on Drink Champs, and then whoopee Whoopy 1:00:19.560 --> 1:00:21.080 was the first black person to become a EG. 1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:21.880 I was the second. 1:00:21.960 --> 1:00:24.560 I was the first black man, and then Jay Hudd 1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:26.560 and now Viola also is. 1:00:26.520 --> 1:00:30.000 An E guy Davis, Yes, okay, so all right, let's 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:30.960 explain to mother fuckers. 1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:43.760 So he got it's an Emmy, a Grammy, yeah, Oscar? Yeah, 1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:45.920 and I forgot what the last one? 1:00:48.360 --> 1:00:48.640 Tony? 1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:49.040 Did you say? 1:00:49.960 --> 1:00:59.919 What is? That's Broadway? Broadway, That's what we produced, were 1:01:00.320 --> 1:01:00.640 to play. 1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:05.120 We produced a play called Jitney and it won a Tony, and. 1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:06.240 So that's my tea. 1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:14.640 That's awesome, man, congratulations, So which one did you get? 1:01:14.680 --> 1:01:16.160 First? The Grammys? 1:01:16.320 --> 1:01:20.240 So my first Grammys were three Grammys for my debut 1:01:20.280 --> 1:01:22.960 album Get Lifted twenty year anniversary this year, goddamn. 1:01:24.280 --> 1:01:25.600 Oh. 1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:29.040 So I won Best New Artist, Best R and B Album, 1:01:29.280 --> 1:01:31.560 and Best R and B Male Vocal Performance for that 1:01:31.760 --> 1:01:35.600 album and for Ordinary People. And then since then I've 1:01:35.600 --> 1:01:42.360 won thirteen Grammys. Thirteen and then I won an Oscar 1:01:42.520 --> 1:01:44.240 for Glory with Common. 1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:47.160 We wrote that for Selma, and then. 1:01:48.120 --> 1:01:52.400 After that I won the Tony for Jitney, which is 1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:54.480 a play written by August Wilson, and we produced a 1:01:54.600 --> 1:01:57.280 revival of it and we won Best Revival on Broadway 1:01:57.720 --> 1:02:03.360 and then only needed the Emmy, and NBC called me 1:02:03.440 --> 1:02:06.000 up and asked me to start as Jesus Christ in 1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:11.080 Jesus Christ Superstar Live production that they did for NBC and. 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:13.280 That play. 1:02:13.440 --> 1:02:16.600 That musical was written by Andrew, Lloyd Weber and Tim 1:02:16.760 --> 1:02:19.560 Rice and they all three of us only needed an 1:02:19.600 --> 1:02:24.480 Emmy to get the egot, and we all wanted at 1:02:24.520 --> 1:02:25.200 the same time. 1:02:26.080 --> 1:02:27.920 When we won Best Live Music. 1:02:30.840 --> 1:02:32.560 Is there a point where you're getting closer, You're like, 1:02:32.800 --> 1:02:35.200 now you're shooting for You're like this. 1:02:35.520 --> 1:02:37.560 My team knew that all I needed was an Emmy, 1:02:37.640 --> 1:02:40.280 and they're like, and I have a production company and 1:02:40.320 --> 1:02:42.680 we produced TV and film, so like, if anything we 1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:45.200 produced would get an Emmy, then I would have an egot. 1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:46.880 So they're like, man, we're gonna get you this egot. 1:02:47.120 --> 1:02:50.880 So so we produced Jesus Christ Superstar Live. 1:02:50.760 --> 1:02:51.520 And it won the Emmy. 1:02:51.640 --> 1:02:54.000 So yeah, well, I'm gonna tall you well for first 1:02:54.040 --> 1:02:56.840 of us to make some noise for that. Well, I'm 1:02:56.840 --> 1:02:59.960 gonna tell you something. Uh, you know, I'm an artist first, 1:03:01.040 --> 1:03:04.120 and I believe in I'm pro artist, super pro artist. 1:03:04.280 --> 1:03:07.480 Right, So we've been doing this nine years, nine years, 1:03:07.960 --> 1:03:09.040 eight years, nine years. 1:03:09.560 --> 1:03:13.880 I was like nine years, nine years, right, and due 1:03:13.920 --> 1:03:17.400 these nine years, no one has ever sent us a writer. 1:03:18.880 --> 1:03:22.320 You are the only one who's sitting there. I was 1:03:22.560 --> 1:03:28.920 so happy the artist in me. I was like, he 1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:33.280 has to send us a writer. It's funny because I 1:03:33.280 --> 1:03:34.880 haven't even been to the dressing room, so I don't 1:03:34.880 --> 1:03:39.120 even know if I have a rider. I was. 1:03:40.960 --> 1:03:44.400 The artist in me because I cool, this is this 1:03:44.440 --> 1:03:46.880 is one thing, right, And I lost money on you too. 1:03:47.240 --> 1:03:49.720 I bet he was gonna be on time. We always bet. 1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:50.120 This is. 1:03:50.240 --> 1:03:53.200 This is how I was there two oh nine, No, no, 1:03:53.320 --> 1:03:56.240 you said too, or nine you came here two and sixteen? Yes, 1:03:56.360 --> 1:03:56.920 I lost. 1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:03.280 Literally bet and I I bet my mind. I was like, no, miss, 1:04:03.600 --> 1:04:05.680 I'll called you miss the legend. I was like, the 1:04:05.800 --> 1:04:07.600 legend will be on time, and he's gonna be on 1:04:16.000 --> 1:04:20.480 But holy molyam those were saying before saying that he 1:04:20.600 --> 1:04:20.880 was late. 1:04:21.760 --> 1:04:24.240 The writer, the writer that ship touched me. 1:04:24.720 --> 1:04:26.840 I was a writer because we got like small riders 1:04:26.880 --> 1:04:29.880 and then big specifically purple grapes in there that. 1:04:32.680 --> 1:04:41.080 I like, I like, I love that we just have 1:04:41.240 --> 1:04:41.400 like that. 1:04:41.640 --> 1:04:44.200 We have like the streamlined version and then I got 1:04:44.240 --> 1:04:46.120 the full version for the show and everything. 1:04:46.720 --> 1:04:49.560 So let me tell you, I apologize, I love it. 1:04:49.920 --> 1:04:53.760 Do not apologize. That is dope. Your team is dope. 1:04:55.200 --> 1:04:59.000 Let me let me just tell you something. Sorry. I 1:04:59.160 --> 1:04:59.920 was going to go to. 1:05:01.920 --> 1:05:05.920 I was on tour in Japan, right and every city 1:05:06.000 --> 1:05:07.880 that I went to, the promoter was like, he just 1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:10.720 kept hugging me because my writer was just like Hennessy 1:05:10.840 --> 1:05:11.080 at the. 1:05:11.120 --> 1:05:15.200 Time, blunt and maybe kid like I had. I had 1:05:15.240 --> 1:05:16.960 no fruit, I had no water. 1:05:17.040 --> 1:05:18.840 And he was And I said to him, I had 1:05:18.880 --> 1:05:20.480 like a twenty four city tour with him, So I 1:05:20.560 --> 1:05:22.480 was like, Yo, why do you keep hugging me every 1:05:22.560 --> 1:05:24.440 time that I go in the dressing room? 1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:26.440 He was like, because I just had l L. 1:05:28.120 --> 1:05:32.160 Do you imagine what l El's writer was in Japan? 1:05:32.520 --> 1:05:36.960 He wanted green apples. I don't even think green apples 1:05:37.040 --> 1:05:38.280 go past He's ghost. 1:05:38.360 --> 1:05:40.720 So he was just happy. How he was just happy, 1:05:40.800 --> 1:05:44.520 how simple you're I was? And I didn't so this 1:05:44.680 --> 1:05:48.560 whole nine years. You know, he's Hollywood. You know I 1:05:48.720 --> 1:05:50.680 believe only one of yell skittles. 1:05:51.600 --> 1:05:54.640 He wanted to open up everything that was all violator 1:05:55.080 --> 1:05:57.680 old bout of the end. I booked you out here 1:05:57.760 --> 1:05:59.520 for the first time and I got your writer. 1:06:00.080 --> 1:06:00.520 It was crazy. 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:04.080 You had like to two palettes of snapples or something 1:06:04.520 --> 1:06:08.480 crazy like gon ship. 1:06:08.600 --> 1:06:11.440 Dude, By the way, do you make your own writer? 1:06:11.520 --> 1:06:14.240 Because I don't make my writer. I have input. 1:06:14.360 --> 1:06:19.919 Yeah, okay, I'll like like when I don't like where 1:06:20.000 --> 1:06:22.400 we are with it, like because maybe like I wanted 1:06:22.440 --> 1:06:24.360 this two years ago, but I want it now, then I'll. 1:06:24.280 --> 1:06:26.080 Go back and go through it and edit it. 1:06:26.440 --> 1:06:28.000 So the last tour we went on, I went through 1:06:28.040 --> 1:06:30.840 and edited it and I haven't had to say anything 1:06:30.920 --> 1:06:31.320 since then. 1:06:31.760 --> 1:06:33.720 You know what should have We should do a documentary 1:06:34.800 --> 1:06:39.000 music people ride us? Yeah, because different people like different ship. 1:06:39.320 --> 1:06:42.560 They revolt, they they listen to my writer. Unfortunately, when 1:06:42.560 --> 1:06:43.880 I got the what's the drink? 1:06:43.920 --> 1:06:48.360 I got you're drinking fireball? This is like a frat boy. 1:06:54.600 --> 1:06:54.760 To me. 1:06:54.960 --> 1:06:59.080 Here's your writer, oh ship? I went on from there. 1:07:00.160 --> 1:07:02.520 By the way, I'm sorry to switch the subjects up, 1:07:02.760 --> 1:07:05.000 but if if, if God came to you right now, 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:08.480 and God says John Legend, I need you to make 1:07:08.600 --> 1:07:12.760 one record to save humanity, and you got one feature 1:07:13.720 --> 1:07:20.440 and you got one producer dead or alive, the feature 1:07:20.680 --> 1:07:22.160 and the producer dead or live. 1:07:22.280 --> 1:07:23.160 You got one record. 1:07:23.320 --> 1:07:25.720 This record that you make John Legend is going to 1:07:25.800 --> 1:07:28.720 save humanity and put people on motherfucking. 1:07:28.240 --> 1:07:33.880 Mars to live. Yeah. Yeah. He said, you don't want 1:07:33.880 --> 1:07:39.200 to work with Elon Mark. I don't believe nobody. I 1:07:39.320 --> 1:07:41.800 haven't worked with that. I love that. I shouted out 1:07:41.840 --> 1:07:43.240 today Timberland. 1:07:44.240 --> 1:07:47.760 Tim, you can have a feature if you want, dad 1:07:48.040 --> 1:07:50.959 or live. We're talking like a singer or a rapper, 1:07:51.240 --> 1:07:51.960 whatever you want. 1:07:52.160 --> 1:07:55.000 This is John Legend, world's doing with a banjo. 1:07:56.000 --> 1:07:59.800 Uh, let's do Tim tim Bow and hove. I was 1:07:59.880 --> 1:08:01.600 just listening to Dirt off your shoulder in the car. 1:08:02.880 --> 1:08:08.440 Crazy record. Yeah nasty. I just saw a video of 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:12.840 the first moment he showed whole that Tim eat the banana. 1:08:12.920 --> 1:08:20.720 It was awkward, but it was it was banana in 1:08:20.800 --> 1:08:26.840 his mouth. He just held it. What do you like more, 1:08:26.960 --> 1:08:35.479 performing or making the record? I like to make the record, man, hmm. 1:08:35.640 --> 1:08:36.280 I love both. 1:08:37.640 --> 1:08:43.479 I'm gonna say my favorite part is writing writing. Yes, 1:08:43.920 --> 1:08:46.559 for other people, writing for myself, but I. 1:08:46.600 --> 1:08:47.559 Mean for other people too. 1:08:47.600 --> 1:08:52.439 But I love starting with nothing and ending the day 1:08:52.520 --> 1:08:54.320 with something new that could change my life. 1:08:54.400 --> 1:08:55.320 That that's a. 1:08:55.320 --> 1:09:00.160 Special It's like, Hey, that didn't exist before today and 1:09:00.240 --> 1:09:03.040 we made it, and it's amazing. You always think it's 1:09:03.040 --> 1:09:05.759 amazing for the first day, and it's not always amazing, 1:09:06.000 --> 1:09:10.840 but that feeling, there's nothing like him. Right, Okay, let's 1:09:10.880 --> 1:09:12.960 take it back to the beginning. How did we start. 1:09:13.840 --> 1:09:16.120 So I grew up in Ohio. Grew up in a 1:09:16.760 --> 1:09:21.880 small city called Springfield. And uh my family is very 1:09:22.000 --> 1:09:25.320 next with Dave Chappelle and that right, So if he 1:09:25.520 --> 1:09:26.400 was on SNL, he was. 1:09:26.400 --> 1:09:29.760 Talking about my hometown the other day because. 1:09:29.640 --> 1:09:32.920 The whole eating Yeah, the Haitians are there and and 1:09:33.280 --> 1:09:36.360 uh so Trump was making up shit about them on. 1:09:36.680 --> 1:09:38.400 On the debate stage. 1:09:38.720 --> 1:09:40.320 But that was my city. That's where I grew up. 1:09:40.720 --> 1:09:43.360 So I grew up in Springfield, Ohio. My family is 1:09:43.439 --> 1:09:46.839 very involved in the church. So my grandpa was the pastor, 1:09:47.040 --> 1:09:50.879 my grandmother was the organist, my mom was the choir director. 1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:53.519 So I just grew up around people who made gospel 1:09:53.600 --> 1:09:57.200 music all the time. And so I piano at the house, 1:09:57.320 --> 1:10:00.120 drums at the house, and before the piano hit for 1:10:00.240 --> 1:10:05.320 you all right, yeah, but yeah, I just grew up 1:10:05.320 --> 1:10:08.519 around music all the time, especially in church, and I 1:10:08.560 --> 1:10:11.760 always loved it. I always wanted to sing, just grew 1:10:11.840 --> 1:10:14.200 up around people who loved it too, and they encouraged me. 1:10:14.280 --> 1:10:17.599 I took piano lessons when I was four, started singing. 1:10:17.400 --> 1:10:20.320 In church choir when I was seven, and you know, 1:10:20.400 --> 1:10:22.920 it's been my life. God damn it, you love it. 1:10:23.160 --> 1:10:23.640 I love it. 1:10:24.000 --> 1:10:27.120 But you said, you said you're celebrating your debut album, 1:10:27.160 --> 1:10:30.559 but you had music that you had albums before this independently, all. 1:10:30.680 --> 1:10:32.559 Independent albums, A couple of them. 1:10:33.040 --> 1:10:35.320 They basically were like demos that I was, you know, 1:10:35.680 --> 1:10:38.240 trying to get signed with, but I was also selling 1:10:38.240 --> 1:10:39.720 them at my shows, so I would play. 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:41.679 I was living in New York, and I was working 1:10:41.960 --> 1:10:42.160 in the. 1:10:42.240 --> 1:10:45.559 Daytime as a consultant, so like this very like white 1:10:45.640 --> 1:10:47.640 collar job in. 1:10:47.680 --> 1:10:49.240 The business world, corporate world. 1:10:49.560 --> 1:10:51.479 But at night I was trying to get signed, and 1:10:51.520 --> 1:10:53.320 I would play gigs around New York, so I would 1:10:53.320 --> 1:10:57.000 sell my little demos at the shows. And so that 1:10:57.280 --> 1:10:59.559 I graduated college in ninety nine, moved to New York 1:10:59.600 --> 1:11:02.760 in two, and I got signed in four and Get 1:11:02.840 --> 1:11:05.400 Lifted came out four, So I had like those four 1:11:05.520 --> 1:11:08.040 or five years out of school where I was just 1:11:08.120 --> 1:11:09.960 trying to get signed, but also working. 1:11:09.800 --> 1:11:11.720 A day job. That's when I met Ya. 1:11:11.960 --> 1:11:14.600 That's when I met a lot of the people that 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:17.599 I wrote the first album with was during that time. 1:11:17.920 --> 1:11:19.920 Okay, we're gonna get back to that. But is this 1:11:20.200 --> 1:11:23.360 true that you have to eat a rotesttery chicken meal 1:11:23.439 --> 1:11:24.200 before every. 1:11:24.200 --> 1:11:26.599 That's in my show writer, that wasn't in this right, 1:11:29.640 --> 1:11:33.160 that's in my constant. I don't need the whole chicken, 1:11:33.200 --> 1:11:34.320 but I ordered half a chicken. 1:11:34.400 --> 1:11:35.559 Okay, why. 1:11:36.320 --> 1:11:40.960 I just like the feel of it. Boston Market. It's 1:11:41.000 --> 1:11:45.479 Boston Market. The market, yeah, okay, Boston Market too. Was 1:11:45.520 --> 1:11:48.160 it called Boston Boston Market used to be called Boston Chicken. 1:11:49.200 --> 1:11:51.639 It started as Boston Chicken, then it became Boston Market 1:11:51.680 --> 1:11:52.200 because that's. 1:11:52.280 --> 1:11:54.000 That's how the chicken. I've been to Boston. I've never 1:11:54.040 --> 1:11:55.040 seen that chicken in Boston. 1:11:56.400 --> 1:11:59.400 I'm just asking, like anybody else has That's a good question, 1:12:00.160 --> 1:12:02.840 like I've never seen that chicken start in Boston. That 1:12:02.960 --> 1:12:05.559 sounds from that's the reason why. But have you ever 1:12:05.680 --> 1:12:07.639 had that Boston Market chicken in Boston? 1:12:08.880 --> 1:12:14.880 Ok? I love the market. He's serious about it, so 1:12:15.000 --> 1:12:19.080 we established you don't get mad. I'm very very mellow guy. 1:12:19.200 --> 1:12:23.960 It's rarely do I lose my cool. I got to 1:12:23.960 --> 1:12:24.840 ask you this straight up. 1:12:26.280 --> 1:12:29.160 We had Kanye on this app on it I saw 1:12:29.520 --> 1:12:33.760 and we had two different we had two different different episodes. Yes, 1:12:34.000 --> 1:12:37.200 and this is this is your according to your words, 1:12:37.720 --> 1:12:40.080 as you're saying, this is like your mentor somebody that 1:12:40.160 --> 1:12:42.800 you looked up, somebody that puts you on. We made 1:12:43.680 --> 1:12:46.360 a lot of great music together, and we came we 1:12:46.479 --> 1:12:47.400 came up together. 1:12:47.560 --> 1:12:54.040 Right, Sometimes does it disturb you, Oh, how did you feel? 1:12:54.160 --> 1:12:54.200 Like? 1:12:55.160 --> 1:12:59.120 Oh? Absolutely disturbs me some of the things he says. 1:12:59.560 --> 1:13:02.800 And and I'm not as just serve for me because 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:04.000 what he said about me, I think. 1:13:04.960 --> 1:13:08.720 I'm like, obviously it was a good thing for him 1:13:08.800 --> 1:13:11.519 and for me that he signed me. I wasn't worried 1:13:11.560 --> 1:13:14.040 about the literal words that he said. I didn't take 1:13:14.080 --> 1:13:16.160 it personally. But I just feel like a lot of 1:13:16.200 --> 1:13:20.000 times he seems to be going through ship and and 1:13:21.080 --> 1:13:22.640 every once in a while we'll get, you. 1:13:22.680 --> 1:13:27.719 Know, these flurries of outbursts from him, and it's sad. 1:13:27.800 --> 1:13:27.920 Man. 1:13:28.160 --> 1:13:30.040 I don't love seeing it. Man, I don't love seeing 1:13:30.040 --> 1:13:33.280 it for him because you know him, like, yeah, like 1:13:33.640 --> 1:13:36.880 these people to most people, and I don't want to 1:13:37.000 --> 1:13:40.000 stay on this. I'll get you know, you know, well 1:13:40.439 --> 1:13:42.280 most people it's entertainment. 1:13:41.960 --> 1:13:44.479 Right, yeah, And it's like, but that's your that's your brother, 1:13:44.640 --> 1:13:47.479 and it is outrageous, and sometimes it's funny, like and 1:13:47.600 --> 1:13:49.360 some of my friends will like, you know, text me 1:13:49.520 --> 1:13:52.720 hear what Kanye said. Yeah, I'm like yeah, but like 1:13:52.800 --> 1:13:55.200 part of it's sad, you know, it's sad seeing it. 1:13:55.560 --> 1:14:00.800 And I still look at him as one of the 1:14:00.880 --> 1:14:03.960 most important artists that we've ever had, and I still 1:14:04.120 --> 1:14:08.800 like some of his music is just like truly incredible, groundbreaking, 1:14:09.280 --> 1:14:13.720 world changing and still holds up now and and I 1:14:13.920 --> 1:14:15.439 just feel like it's a shame that. 1:14:17.160 --> 1:14:20.000 That it gets clouded by all the other shit. 1:14:21.880 --> 1:14:26.439 God bless man, because to go more to the musical 1:14:26.479 --> 1:14:29.240 side of it, like yeah, that journey that when you 1:14:29.360 --> 1:14:31.760 guys connected in the beginning, but was that like how 1:14:32.200 --> 1:14:34.640 so what stage of his career and for you, like, what. 1:14:34.760 --> 1:14:37.000 Was that whole that was good music? Correct? Yeah, So 1:14:37.160 --> 1:14:39.160 it didn't even exist good music. It didn't exist when 1:14:39.200 --> 1:14:42.200 we met. So I'm a new artist. 1:14:42.680 --> 1:14:44.920 I'm, like I said, working by day as a management 1:14:45.000 --> 1:14:48.280 consultant in New York, one of my roommates I went 1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:51.680 to college with. His name is Devo, and Devo had 1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:54.439 a cousin from Chicago that was about to move to 1:14:55.280 --> 1:14:58.799 the area and his name was Kanye West. So Devo 1:15:00.200 --> 1:15:03.240 he's not known neither, no, but he had just started 1:15:03.280 --> 1:15:07.280 working Jay and Dame and all them at Rockefeller and 1:15:08.640 --> 1:15:12.800 he had just him and just Blaze basically did the 1:15:12.840 --> 1:15:13.479 whole blueprint. 1:15:13.560 --> 1:15:14.280 That's right. That's right. 1:15:14.400 --> 1:15:19.479 So when I met Kanye was May of two thousand, 1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:22.120 or like late spring or early summer in two thousand 1:15:22.120 --> 1:15:24.799 and one. And I remember because it was at Jimmy's 1:15:24.840 --> 1:15:29.559 Uptown and I recorded that show at Jimmy's Uptown and Harlem, Yeah, 1:15:29.680 --> 1:15:30.320 Jimmy's Uptown. 1:15:30.640 --> 1:15:34.160 Yeah, We're gonna stab somebody. 1:15:34.800 --> 1:15:38.920 So I'm doing a show there and we recorded it 1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:42.160 and we actually put out a live record to my 1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:44.800 fans of that recording. So that's why I knew when 1:15:44.840 --> 1:15:47.519 I met him, was because it was that day that 1:15:47.640 --> 1:15:48.720 we record the show, and. 1:15:51.080 --> 1:15:52.679 My roommates like, you gotta meet my cousin. 1:15:52.720 --> 1:15:56.520 He just moved to New York and he's producing for Rockefeller, 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:01.960 and we met and then we started working together a 1:16:02.000 --> 1:16:05.080 few months later. He was working on his demo and 1:16:05.400 --> 1:16:07.040 he was trying to get signed as a rapper, but 1:16:07.080 --> 1:16:07.640 everybody was like. 1:16:07.920 --> 1:16:09.400 Yeah, you keep that serious. 1:16:09.479 --> 1:16:13.160 Yeah, because not me for a second, because Farrell always 1:16:13.280 --> 1:16:18.840 downplays when when like when me and Pharrell, Farrell was 1:16:18.920 --> 1:16:21.479 cocky as ship, even as a person that was coming 1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:23.240 up was Kanye Kky. 1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:26.240 Yeah he was cocky. Yeah cool is Susan right. 1:16:26.439 --> 1:16:28.760 He's not the same as he was back then, but 1:16:28.800 --> 1:16:30.799 he was. He's always like had. 1:16:30.640 --> 1:16:33.599 A strong say yeah all. 1:16:33.560 --> 1:16:36.120 Right, yeah, yeah, was like he's so humble now I'm like, 1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:37.320 none of the motherfucker I remember. 1:16:38.439 --> 1:16:40.320 But when the guy told you my cousin, did you 1:16:40.320 --> 1:16:41.519 already know about his production? 1:16:41.760 --> 1:16:42.960 No, it wasn't out yet. 1:16:43.600 --> 1:16:46.040 So the Bluebird came out nine eleven, remember nine eleven, 1:16:46.439 --> 1:16:48.880 on the day of nine eleven, and that's that's yeah, 1:16:48.880 --> 1:16:50.840 he's debut as a productor that. 1:16:50.960 --> 1:16:53.040 Was his first big moment as a producer. 1:16:53.120 --> 1:16:56.920 So yeah, which was a single before the album came out, 1:16:57.439 --> 1:17:00.320 and then he had a few cuts on the album 1:17:00.680 --> 1:17:02.400 and then Blaze did the other side, so it was 1:17:02.479 --> 1:17:05.320 just like both of them were the album basically, so 1:17:05.439 --> 1:17:10.080 that soul sample sound was the whole blueprint sound and yay, 1:17:10.479 --> 1:17:12.599 and just Blaze did the whole thing basically, and he's 1:17:12.640 --> 1:17:15.680 telling you this and you believe him, Like I'm like, 1:17:15.960 --> 1:17:16.599 let's meet him. 1:17:16.920 --> 1:17:19.200 Like at this point, it's like I'm trying to get 1:17:19.280 --> 1:17:20.880 signed too, and I'm like, let's try it. 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:23.760 You know, like I don't know him, but we'll see. 1:17:24.080 --> 1:17:25.920 And you never know what hip hop producers because some 1:17:26.040 --> 1:17:29.760 aren't musical enough because they're more like being driven and 1:17:30.280 --> 1:17:32.280 you know, I'm an R and B artist, some more soulful, 1:17:32.360 --> 1:17:35.760 so I want somebody that still has some musical underpinnings. 1:17:36.200 --> 1:17:39.080 And the good thing about Yay was he he was 1:17:39.200 --> 1:17:42.080 using all the soul samples and the music was very soulful. 1:17:42.479 --> 1:17:44.560 So it was like the perfect blend of soul and 1:17:44.680 --> 1:17:47.000 hip hop for us to work together. So we start 1:17:47.040 --> 1:17:49.800 working together, like late two thousand and one, early two 1:17:49.840 --> 1:17:53.080 thousand and two, he gets in an accident. 1:17:54.880 --> 1:17:58.400 You met before that before the accident, and I think 1:17:58.439 --> 1:18:00.479 he was signed by the time he had that SID But. 1:18:02.680 --> 1:18:06.519 Damn and m Our impression was they signed him just 1:18:06.600 --> 1:18:09.320 so they could keep him in house for Beef, yes, 1:18:10.840 --> 1:18:13.560 not because they really thought he was going to be successful. 1:18:13.720 --> 1:18:15.439 We saw artists who were so much. 1:18:15.320 --> 1:18:21.639 You Meydan Sie like the crew, so we got this, yeah, 1:18:21.920 --> 1:18:22.479 the whole crew. 1:18:22.640 --> 1:18:25.400 Yeah, so we and I started to get to know 1:18:25.560 --> 1:18:27.960 them later. But you know, Devo was working with him, 1:18:28.040 --> 1:18:31.040 my roommate. He was like basically running his production company. 1:18:31.560 --> 1:18:35.400 And so you know, Kanye really believed in himself as 1:18:35.439 --> 1:18:35.920 a solo. 1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:38.600 Artist, and a lot of his team did, but I 1:18:38.800 --> 1:18:41.000 felt and a lot of us felt like Rockefeller didn't. 1:18:41.240 --> 1:18:43.200 So he gets an accident. Can I tell you real 1:18:43.280 --> 1:18:44.559 question to add to the story. 1:18:44.840 --> 1:18:47.320 I was working for Deaf Jam at the time, and 1:18:47.760 --> 1:18:50.080 they weren't pushing him as an artist. He went and 1:18:50.280 --> 1:18:52.679 sent he got the list of all the street teams, 1:18:53.160 --> 1:18:55.840 sent the white labels of his singles hustling, and started 1:18:55.880 --> 1:18:59.320 a conference call with himself and all the street teams. So, yeah, 1:18:59.320 --> 1:19:03.120 we're pushing this like himself. Yes, outside of the infrastructure 1:19:03.160 --> 1:19:03.599 of the label. 1:19:03.840 --> 1:19:06.440 He was so entrepreneurial. He put out his own mixtape 1:19:07.760 --> 1:19:12.920 and he got an accident and made through the wire. 1:19:14.160 --> 1:19:15.960 And then he started just camping because he got an 1:19:15.960 --> 1:19:18.840 accident in La. So he started just camping out at 1:19:18.880 --> 1:19:22.120 the w and Westwood in l A. Yeah, And so 1:19:22.240 --> 1:19:23.920 I would go out there from New York whenever I 1:19:24.000 --> 1:19:26.840 had time, and we would work on College Dropout with him, 1:19:27.080 --> 1:19:29.479 and I wrote used to love you out there, uh, 1:19:29.680 --> 1:19:32.920 and some of my songs forget Lifted. And that's when 1:19:32.960 --> 1:19:36.280 I started to see after the accident this new sense 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:40.400 of like this man is on a mission. And it 1:19:40.560 --> 1:19:43.000 started with Through the Wire, but then I heard Jesus 1:19:43.120 --> 1:19:45.400 Walks and all these other records. I'm like, yo, this 1:19:45.560 --> 1:19:49.320 is gonna be And I played piano on Lauren Hill's Miseducation, 1:19:49.760 --> 1:19:52.160 So what what what to so. 1:19:52.560 --> 1:19:54.120 You put on the whole. 1:19:54.320 --> 1:19:57.479 I played piano on Everything Is Everything on Lauren Hill's album, 1:19:57.560 --> 1:19:59.439 and I said to ya when. 1:19:59.280 --> 1:20:01.080 I was listening to g Walks, I was like, I 1:20:01.160 --> 1:20:02.479 feel like I was part. 1:20:02.320 --> 1:20:04.800 Of one album that changed the world in ninety eight 1:20:05.280 --> 1:20:07.000 and this is album is about to do the same 1:20:07.080 --> 1:20:08.240 thing in two thousand and four. 1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:12.320 And you got credit for Laurence Hill. Yeah, I feel 1:20:12.320 --> 1:20:17.120 like John Stevens, Yeah I Stevens. Yeah, you know that's wild, 1:20:17.680 --> 1:20:22.080 that's crazy, because how did you go the Let's just 1:20:22.160 --> 1:20:22.880 finish this right? 1:20:23.120 --> 1:20:27.320 So anyway, that time was crazy because we're all out 1:20:27.720 --> 1:20:31.439 in la We're meeting up with him, he's recovering from 1:20:31.439 --> 1:20:33.519 the accident, but he's got this new sense of purpose 1:20:34.240 --> 1:20:36.479 and uh, he's making the best music of his. 1:20:36.560 --> 1:20:40.519 Life up to that point, and it just felt like the. 1:20:40.600 --> 1:20:43.000 Momentum was was there and it was going to be 1:20:43.040 --> 1:20:47.360 a big, special album and it was sure was Yeah, but. 1:20:47.400 --> 1:20:50.560 How about the Grammy family, Like, yeah, you had the 1:20:50.640 --> 1:20:51.960 whole industry shook up? 1:20:52.120 --> 1:20:54.439 Yeah, every Monday at one point or we. 1:20:54.479 --> 1:20:57.880 Were doing the Good Fridays Friday my bad, I said, 1:20:57.920 --> 1:21:01.800 Monday's lets you know how much I'll be drinking? Like 1:21:02.960 --> 1:21:05.599 was that something that y'all all got together and said 1:21:05.920 --> 1:21:07.479 we're gonna fuck up the industry? 1:21:08.800 --> 1:21:12.120 I think sometimes YA just gets in that like creative 1:21:12.360 --> 1:21:15.720 like uh, like that just. 1:21:15.840 --> 1:21:18.920 Extra excitement and he's ready to like he's just got 1:21:18.960 --> 1:21:20.320 all these ideas and he just wants to. 1:21:20.280 --> 1:21:21.960 Get him out and he's like, that's just good Fridays. 1:21:22.120 --> 1:21:22.640 That was the time. 1:21:22.760 --> 1:21:25.160 He's like everybody at the studio needs to wear a 1:21:25.520 --> 1:21:27.800 suit and tie, and so everybody was dressing like there 1:21:27.880 --> 1:21:29.559 was in Reservoir Dogs. 1:21:29.360 --> 1:21:32.519 At the studio. They called it the Rose with Era. 1:21:32.680 --> 1:21:33.479 It was like a whole thing. 1:21:33.680 --> 1:21:36.439 So sometimes he's just beyond one and he's like that's 1:21:36.520 --> 1:21:37.559 his thing at that time. 1:21:37.479 --> 1:21:38.280 And that's what he be on. 1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:43.000 That's yeah, God damn, I wish y'all good into the studio. 1:21:43.880 --> 1:21:45.320 Well a goddamn reservoir dog. 1:21:47.600 --> 1:21:51.360 Oh jesus. He called it the Rosewood era. 1:21:52.720 --> 1:21:56.160 So then you get so so now getting into your project, 1:21:56.400 --> 1:21:59.080 transitioning from his Yeah, So it was all happening at 1:21:59.120 --> 1:22:02.040 the same time though, so uh, we were working on 1:22:02.400 --> 1:22:04.040 like used to Love You and some of the joints 1:22:04.080 --> 1:22:07.120 from Get Lifted during the same time that we're working 1:22:07.200 --> 1:22:09.559 on College Dropping Really at the same time. 1:22:09.640 --> 1:22:10.800 It was all happened at the same time. 1:22:10.840 --> 1:22:12.599 We're both trying to get I was trying to get 1:22:12.680 --> 1:22:16.320 signed after he had already gotten signed to Rockefeller, and 1:22:16.680 --> 1:22:20.600 I eventually signed to Good Music and my roommate was 1:22:20.680 --> 1:22:22.679 running the label for him, so I was basically signed 1:22:22.720 --> 1:22:23.880 to my roommate's. 1:22:23.560 --> 1:22:26.479 Label with his cousin. 1:22:26.800 --> 1:22:31.960 And eventually after College Dropout came out, that was when 1:22:32.040 --> 1:22:33.040 the industry really. 1:22:32.880 --> 1:22:35.559 Started to be like, okay, we fucked with the whole crew. 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:38.680 So before that, we took the same music to all 1:22:38.680 --> 1:22:40.840 the labels and they turned us down or they gave 1:22:40.920 --> 1:22:44.960 us a low offer. And when College Dropout came out, 1:22:45.840 --> 1:22:47.240 everybody changed their tune. 1:22:47.280 --> 1:22:49.679 We had a bidding war and I signed with Columbia. 1:22:50.439 --> 1:22:54.400 And who was the crew at the time? You consequence GLC, 1:22:54.920 --> 1:22:57.520 don C. I mean those are the artists. Me consequence 1:22:57.920 --> 1:23:01.120 GLC and ya that those are the artists. But then 1:23:01.200 --> 1:23:03.880 don ce John Monopoly. The whole crew was you know, 1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:07.120 we were touring together, we're opening for us, sure together. 1:23:08.080 --> 1:23:12.760 Uh that was the crew? Crazy, man? Did you ever think? 1:23:14.120 --> 1:23:16.360 Because yeah, I was like almost like the modern day 1:23:16.400 --> 1:23:17.719 Wu Tang clan right. 1:23:18.840 --> 1:23:22.280 Like like but not exactly okay, but with different like 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:23.559 you know, you had to push. 1:23:23.360 --> 1:23:26.960 Your te you had consequence, Yeah, you had you. You 1:23:27.040 --> 1:23:29.360 had kick cutting Sean Big Sean. 1:23:29.640 --> 1:23:32.360 Like during that during that Good Friday's time, that was 1:23:32.400 --> 1:23:33.960 a like latt Roster was crazy. 1:23:34.120 --> 1:23:36.600 I'm not gonna be honest as an industry person, we 1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:39.519 were scared of that Friday. You did not like it, 1:23:41.280 --> 1:23:43.719 Like I'm not gonna say I'm not fucking making. 1:23:43.560 --> 1:23:44.479 Music no more so. 1:23:44.760 --> 1:23:47.639 Yeah said the records like click and some of those 1:23:47.680 --> 1:23:48.799 records were insane. 1:23:49.120 --> 1:23:51.200 Yeah, Like we were mad at y'all. We were like 1:23:51.320 --> 1:23:54.640 why why did y'all want to just blogging? Yeah? It 1:23:54.760 --> 1:23:55.160 was wow. 1:23:55.439 --> 1:23:59.120 And then right around that time, right after that time, 1:24:01.760 --> 1:24:04.240 Jay and Kanye start working on Watching the Throne, like 1:24:04.600 --> 1:24:08.200 probably this is the one, this is the main Washington, Yeah, 1:24:08.320 --> 1:24:08.760 the only one. 1:24:08.840 --> 1:24:09.040 Yeah. 1:24:09.360 --> 1:24:13.920 So this is around twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, he's he's 1:24:14.000 --> 1:24:15.840 up in the Mercer. They talk about the song the 1:24:15.920 --> 1:24:18.280 Mercer Hotel in New York. 1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:21.800 And I'll tell you something about car Let's let you know. 1:24:23.360 --> 1:24:26.000 So they were literally they were literally in the Mercer 1:24:26.120 --> 1:24:29.200 Hotel and he just brought his studio equipment in there 1:24:29.400 --> 1:24:31.960 and was making Watch the Throne with Jay and then 1:24:32.000 --> 1:24:34.599 we made Love in the Future, my album that came 1:24:34.640 --> 1:24:39.720 out in twenty thirteen, in that same hotel, and so 1:24:39.880 --> 1:24:41.439 all of me was on that. I didn't do that 1:24:41.479 --> 1:24:44.799 one with Yay, but Yay produced the whole like executive 1:24:44.800 --> 1:24:45.639 produced the whole album. 1:24:46.200 --> 1:24:48.080 And that was another crazy time. 1:24:48.439 --> 1:24:52.400 So there's been these times when Yay's really on like 1:24:52.439 --> 1:24:56.840 a creative tear and producing some of the best music 1:24:57.439 --> 1:24:59.360 of that era. It was incredible. 1:25:00.680 --> 1:25:02.760 Again, like I said it earlier, I feel like you 1:25:02.880 --> 1:25:03.840 never had a bad day. 1:25:05.160 --> 1:25:08.120 I just feel it because I just feel like you're 1:25:08.120 --> 1:25:11.280 a positive person, which is really really, really really dope 1:25:11.320 --> 1:25:14.200 to see in this day and time, because there's a 1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:15.920 lot of negative shit going on? 1:25:16.240 --> 1:25:18.559 Yeah, is there anything that you regret? 1:25:21.400 --> 1:25:23.519 I mean, I have regrets all the I mean there's 1:25:23.680 --> 1:25:25.720 things I would do differently now, But. 1:25:26.160 --> 1:25:29.800 I honestly, I don't think about regrets because. 1:25:32.080 --> 1:25:36.679 I feel like everything that happened happened, and I wouldn't 1:25:36.720 --> 1:25:39.160 be here if all of it didn't happen, like the 1:25:39.240 --> 1:25:42.240 good and the bad. Like, I just feel like all 1:25:42.320 --> 1:25:44.360 of it brought me to where I am, and I 1:25:44.479 --> 1:25:47.519 love where I am, and I learned from everything. 1:25:49.040 --> 1:25:53.800 Goddamn, that was the most people, John leg I gotta 1:25:53.840 --> 1:25:57.880 ask you, do you we want time? I only got 1:25:57.920 --> 1:26:01.439 a little bit right here, all right. I'm not trying 1:26:01.439 --> 1:26:02.240 to get rid of it yet. 1:26:02.479 --> 1:26:09.120 I'm yeah, I'm coming out with Forwards. He's coming out 1:26:09.120 --> 1:26:12.479 with the Great You. I got like ten Grays down here. 1:26:12.880 --> 1:26:14.360 He's coming up with the Virgins. Where can make it 1:26:14.560 --> 1:26:15.120 be it grayer? 1:26:16.600 --> 1:26:18.360 Yeah? Okay. 1:26:19.360 --> 1:26:24.040 One of the most beautiful records in the world, all 1:26:24.120 --> 1:26:28.679 over the world, not New York, not America, ordinary people, 1:26:29.200 --> 1:26:30.120 Thank you, thank you. 1:26:30.320 --> 1:26:34.760 One of the most like listeners in the world. Thank you. 1:26:36.520 --> 1:26:40.160 How did you make it so? That started with Will 1:26:40.240 --> 1:26:44.000 I Am and the Black Eyed Peas? So I had 1:26:44.040 --> 1:26:47.599 the same manager as them David Sonenberg. 1:26:47.840 --> 1:26:54.639 And we when he signed me, he was like, I'd 1:26:54.680 --> 1:26:55.760 love to get you in with Will. 1:26:55.800 --> 1:26:57.519 I am from the Black Eyed Peas and at the time, 1:26:57.600 --> 1:26:59.960 it was before they really blew up with Fergie and everything, 1:27:00.000 --> 1:27:03.120 and they were still like an underground group pree Ferki Yeah. So, 1:27:04.560 --> 1:27:09.040 but he was always a dope producer. And so I 1:27:09.120 --> 1:27:14.280 went out to La the first time and we wrote she. 1:27:14.360 --> 1:27:14.960 Don't Have to Know. 1:27:16.120 --> 1:27:19.400 We wrote something for a compilation album that Will was doing, 1:27:19.960 --> 1:27:22.720 and then Will really liked writing with me. I wrote 1:27:22.720 --> 1:27:25.559 a hook for the Black Eyed Peas, and then after 1:27:25.680 --> 1:27:30.160 I got signed, it was like the summer two thousand 1:27:30.160 --> 1:27:32.760 and four. I just gotten signed in May and he 1:27:32.960 --> 1:27:34.200 was in New York and he was like, can you 1:27:34.280 --> 1:27:36.600 come by Hit Factory when we used to have Hit Factory. 1:27:36.320 --> 1:27:37.519 In New York? Remember that and. 1:27:39.240 --> 1:27:41.960 Fifty seven Street, Yeah, right around there. And then so 1:27:42.120 --> 1:27:45.519 he was in the studio and he was like, can 1:27:45.600 --> 1:27:47.920 you just write some hooks for us? I love writing 1:27:47.960 --> 1:27:49.519 with you. So he would just play beats and I 1:27:49.520 --> 1:27:52.000 would just see what hook I could come up with, and. 1:27:52.120 --> 1:27:55.560 I came up with wid and the repeat pople to 1:27:55.720 --> 1:27:56.120 a beat. 1:27:57.520 --> 1:28:00.439 So it wasn't like stripped down piano ballot like it 1:28:00.680 --> 1:28:01.799 was on my album. 1:28:01.880 --> 1:28:05.080 It was to a B and it was going to 1:28:05.120 --> 1:28:07.599 be a hip hop song for the Black Eyed Piece 1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:11.600 with me on the hook that mind, thinking of the 1:28:11.680 --> 1:28:12.240 Black Eyed Piece. 1:28:12.360 --> 1:28:14.760 I wrote the chorus just listening to the music and 1:28:14.840 --> 1:28:19.800 seeing what I recorded it that night, just the hook. 1:28:20.800 --> 1:28:23.920 And then a few days later I'm like, well, you 1:28:24.000 --> 1:28:25.880 can keep every other idea I wrote, but I want 1:28:25.880 --> 1:28:29.280 to keep ordinary people for myself, and he was like, okay, 1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:30.120 no problem. 1:28:30.240 --> 1:28:33.240 I was like, I'll let you produce it, no problem. Like, 1:28:33.720 --> 1:28:35.040 but I feel like it'll be a better R and 1:28:35.160 --> 1:28:37.320 B song than like a pop hip hop song. 1:28:38.000 --> 1:28:41.640 And I started messing with it on tour. I went 1:28:41.720 --> 1:28:44.519 on a European tour with Kanye, and every. 1:28:44.439 --> 1:28:48.759 Soundtrack, every soundcheck, I would write more of the verses 1:28:48.840 --> 1:28:52.519 to ordinate people. And so I basically wrote the chorus 1:28:52.680 --> 1:28:55.800 in the studio with Will and the verses on the 1:28:55.920 --> 1:29:01.240 road with Ya. And I recorded a demo back in 1:29:01.439 --> 1:29:05.840 La on just piano, and I played it for everybody 1:29:06.040 --> 1:29:07.680 and I was like, yeah, Will I Am is going 1:29:07.720 --> 1:29:10.920 to produce it, blah blah blah, and everybody's like, don't 1:29:10.960 --> 1:29:13.800 fuck with that. Leave it alone and so we ended 1:29:13.920 --> 1:29:18.240 up leaving it stripped down, just vocal piano, and. 1:29:19.000 --> 1:29:19.920 That's how it came out. 1:29:20.240 --> 1:29:24.519 And back then, remember the samplers you used to get 1:29:24.560 --> 1:29:28.680 at DJ, so they would hand out the samplers and 1:29:29.240 --> 1:29:30.960 it was my first single, Used to Love You with 1:29:31.080 --> 1:29:35.560 the Halla haa la Halla, and then three snippets of 1:29:35.680 --> 1:29:37.840 other tracks from the album, and then it ended with 1:29:37.960 --> 1:29:39.679 a full version of Ordinary People. 1:29:40.160 --> 1:29:42.320 So this is, you know, late two thousand and four. 1:29:42.320 --> 1:29:47.120 I'm out on the road with USHERINGA from August to October. 1:29:47.479 --> 1:29:50.040 Used to Love You came out during that time, and 1:29:50.120 --> 1:29:52.680 we're promoting it at every stop on the Usher tour. 1:29:52.760 --> 1:29:55.920 I'm going to do radio and we're giving them the 1:29:56.000 --> 1:29:59.840 sampler and in Chicago they were like, yeah, used to 1:30:00.200 --> 1:30:03.519 he was cool, but they just decided at w g 1:30:03.640 --> 1:30:05.559 C I they were going to start playing. They made 1:30:05.640 --> 1:30:07.840 that the single ordinary People, and they made it to 1:30:07.920 --> 1:30:12.080 single by it blowing up in Chicago first and then 1:30:12.920 --> 1:30:13.519 took over. 1:30:16.640 --> 1:30:18.519 Because a lot of people thought you was from Chicago. 1:30:18.800 --> 1:30:22.200 Yeah, yeah, because ya and everybody, But I grew up 1:30:22.240 --> 1:30:25.080 in Ohio, but uh never lived in Chicago, but you know, 1:30:25.160 --> 1:30:28.479 I love Chicago. But yeah, but they really claimed me 1:30:28.560 --> 1:30:31.240 as their own too, just because of the Yea connection 1:30:31.479 --> 1:30:34.560 and and uh and they were the first ones that 1:30:34.840 --> 1:30:37.519 loved Ordinary People and Yay loved it so much that 1:30:37.640 --> 1:30:39.680 he wanted to direct the video. So he ended up 1:30:39.720 --> 1:30:41.920 directing the Ordinary People video. So if you look at it, 1:30:42.600 --> 1:30:43.800 that's him, that's his work. 1:30:44.160 --> 1:30:46.400 Did we'll ever get upset that he couldn't produce it? No, 1:30:46.560 --> 1:30:51.760 he got some publishing. Really, yeah, he got some publishing, 1:30:52.000 --> 1:30:54.639 and uh, you know I wound up producing it. Yeah. 1:30:54.800 --> 1:30:57.560 Well, he knew that it was better that way, like 1:30:57.720 --> 1:31:00.559 stripped down it just it made more impact that way, 1:31:00.760 --> 1:31:02.599 and you got to think about like what was coming 1:31:02.640 --> 1:31:04.200 out in R and B at that time. There's nothing 1:31:04.280 --> 1:31:07.439 else like just like that striped down pan Alicia a 1:31:07.479 --> 1:31:10.600 little bit, but not even uh, it was just it 1:31:10.680 --> 1:31:13.080 stood out from the radio and so like a caapella. 1:31:13.240 --> 1:31:16.920 Yeah yeah, but do you think you're an ordinary person? 1:31:19.800 --> 1:31:23.920 I mean, what does that even mean? You know what 1:31:24.040 --> 1:31:27.800 I'm asking they here's the writer, Here's what I think, 1:31:28.000 --> 1:31:30.000 what you mean, Here's what I think. 1:31:30.320 --> 1:31:30.680 I think. 1:31:32.120 --> 1:31:33.640 When I wrote the song, I was thinking about my 1:31:33.840 --> 1:31:39.760 parents because they had gotten divorced, then back together, then 1:31:40.080 --> 1:31:43.360 divorced again right before my second my first album was 1:31:43.360 --> 1:31:45.800 about to come out, and so I'm writing and thinking, like, 1:31:46.120 --> 1:31:48.400 you know, we don't know which way to go, and. 1:31:49.880 --> 1:31:52.000 So I'm writing it based on their situation. 1:31:53.360 --> 1:31:56.240 But the bottom line is, I think, no matter if 1:31:56.240 --> 1:31:59.280 you're rich or poor, celebrity or not, like, everybody goes 1:31:59.320 --> 1:32:00.640 through shitting the relationships. 1:32:00.800 --> 1:32:09.439 And in that sense, yes, I'm an ordinary person. I 1:32:09.680 --> 1:32:11.240 love that answer, but you're not. 1:32:14.760 --> 1:32:17.280 There's a lot of extraordinary things about my life. Yes. 1:32:18.960 --> 1:32:19.679 Do you think. 1:32:23.240 --> 1:32:26.400 So many people say overnight success right right? That shit 1:32:26.439 --> 1:32:30.599 doesn't exist. It almost never happens that way. It never happened. 1:32:30.680 --> 1:32:34.599 Yeah, But do you think that you fast forwarded from 1:32:35.520 --> 1:32:39.440 that child prodigy to superstarter? 1:32:41.040 --> 1:32:42.840 Well, it didn't feel like fast forward to me because 1:32:42.840 --> 1:32:44.679 I'm like working at days, y'all work. 1:32:45.000 --> 1:32:46.280 Asking for the people out there. 1:32:46.760 --> 1:32:49.280 I'm like, I'm like, and I didn't get signed until 1:32:49.280 --> 1:32:51.439 I was twenty five, So it wasn't like I was, 1:32:52.120 --> 1:32:53.840 you know, getting signed like some of these artists gets 1:32:53.840 --> 1:32:58.439 signed when they're eighteen, nineteen, fourteen, fifteen, And you know, 1:32:59.080 --> 1:33:01.160 back then, I thought I was ready. You know, when 1:33:01.160 --> 1:33:03.320 I was fourteen, I was like singing the talent shows. 1:33:03.360 --> 1:33:05.320 I'm like, why is somebody signing to me now, But 1:33:05.400 --> 1:33:07.519 I didn't even know what went into getting signed, you know, 1:33:08.120 --> 1:33:10.840 what went into being a real artist, not just a singer. 1:33:11.720 --> 1:33:13.280 You know, I'm on the voice now and I'm always 1:33:13.320 --> 1:33:15.519 like trying to advise these guys on what it means 1:33:15.520 --> 1:33:17.439 to actually be an artist and not just somebody who 1:33:17.479 --> 1:33:20.200 can sing. But I didn't know that back then. 1:33:20.560 --> 1:33:22.200 So you have to grow, you have to learn. 1:33:22.400 --> 1:33:24.880 And I thought I was ready then, but I wasn't 1:33:24.920 --> 1:33:27.720 ready until my mid twenties, and then you know, it 1:33:27.840 --> 1:33:30.760 was time, goddamn. And the you know, the cool thing 1:33:30.880 --> 1:33:33.000 not to interrupt your plause, but the cool thing was 1:33:33.320 --> 1:33:35.639 I keep bringing it up, but bringing it up being 1:33:35.760 --> 1:33:38.640 with you a during that time, he became famous like 1:33:39.200 --> 1:33:40.240 a year before I did. 1:33:40.320 --> 1:33:42.320 So it was almost like I got to you saw it, 1:33:42.600 --> 1:33:43.000 watch it. 1:33:44.560 --> 1:33:48.120 While he was experiencing, and I was right there, and 1:33:48.880 --> 1:33:51.160 it made it easier for me to transition into being 1:33:51.240 --> 1:33:51.800 the front guy. 1:33:52.800 --> 1:33:54.160 What I was going to say is, do you think 1:33:54.240 --> 1:33:59.200 that that process, which is a time frame now with 1:33:59.320 --> 1:34:02.519 the internet, like you said, these kids are making themselves 1:34:02.600 --> 1:34:06.040 viral and getting deals eighteen or younger, do you think 1:34:06.080 --> 1:34:08.240 that process takes away from their careers. 1:34:08.320 --> 1:34:10.760 Well, I think I've said this before and I really 1:34:10.840 --> 1:34:13.600 believe it that it's hard to be sustainable if you 1:34:13.720 --> 1:34:16.479 haven't done like the prep work early on, like doing 1:34:16.560 --> 1:34:18.920 shows like when nobody's there, like quote. 1:34:18.760 --> 1:34:22.320 Unquote development, yes, yeah, exactly, development, whether you develop yourself 1:34:22.400 --> 1:34:24.720 or you're in a part of a real artist plot, like. 1:34:24.800 --> 1:34:26.640 Doing a show in front of fifty people before you 1:34:26.760 --> 1:34:28.599 have to do one in front of fifteen thousand people. 1:34:28.720 --> 1:34:29.840 Like having that. 1:34:31.479 --> 1:34:37.200 Just foundation of performing and and building your career experience, 1:34:37.320 --> 1:34:40.680 building your story, building your experiences. It doesn't mean you 1:34:40.720 --> 1:34:42.680 can't make dope music then, but it's hard to do 1:34:42.880 --> 1:34:46.439 everything right if you haven't spent some time preparing and 1:34:46.520 --> 1:34:48.360 I really think performing. 1:34:48.400 --> 1:34:51.120 Practicing as a performer. You just look at like we 1:34:51.240 --> 1:34:52.280 talked about Usher. 1:34:52.439 --> 1:34:55.240 And even Chris Brown and Beyonce and like some of 1:34:55.280 --> 1:34:57.599 these artists, especially ones they have to dance and sing. 1:34:58.160 --> 1:35:01.920 It's like like the level of time you have. 1:35:02.000 --> 1:35:04.880 To put in in the studio, in the dance studio, 1:35:05.000 --> 1:35:07.519 working on the coreera for getting every little thing right, 1:35:08.160 --> 1:35:11.120 and a lot of that they did before they were famous. 1:35:11.160 --> 1:35:14.559 They were like they were like developing that muscle before 1:35:14.600 --> 1:35:17.519 they were famous, and that's why they're still here. Like, 1:35:18.000 --> 1:35:21.559 that's why Usher did the Super Bowl, you know, over 1:35:21.680 --> 1:35:27.680 twenty years after he debuted, because he made himself sustainable 1:35:27.720 --> 1:35:28.839 by putting in the work. 1:35:28.840 --> 1:35:32.080 Of preparation and the reps that he needed to put in. 1:35:32.560 --> 1:35:34.280 And you got to do it. 1:35:34.479 --> 1:35:37.080 And if you don't, if you're not prepared when you 1:35:37.520 --> 1:35:41.040 have that TikTok hit or that viral sensation, then it 1:35:41.120 --> 1:35:43.400 could be fleeting and not sustainable disposable. 1:35:43.479 --> 1:35:46.439 Yeah, exactly how was it speaking about the Super Bowl 1:35:46.600 --> 1:35:49.120 when you got that phone call in twenty fifteen to 1:35:49.280 --> 1:35:50.760 perform at the Super Bowl out? 1:35:51.400 --> 1:35:53.599 That was dope. Man. I was at the Detroit one. 1:35:53.720 --> 1:35:55.640 I forget which one that was, but I did want 1:35:55.760 --> 1:35:56.960 Roger Goodell'll call you. 1:35:57.920 --> 1:36:01.040 Roger did not call you. 1:36:01.120 --> 1:36:03.160 They always call my agent, you know. I never't talked 1:36:03.160 --> 1:36:07.040 to anybody. It's like they get to my agent eventually, 1:36:07.120 --> 1:36:08.080 and they get to me eventually. 1:36:08.200 --> 1:36:10.080 Get all right, So where you at somebody and they 1:36:10.160 --> 1:36:12.400 call you and they say they want you to perform 1:36:12.479 --> 1:36:13.000 for Super Bowl. 1:36:14.800 --> 1:36:18.000 I don't remember, Honestly, I don't really remember that. Like 1:36:18.080 --> 1:36:21.280 it's so dope, you don't know, But I never like headline. 1:36:20.840 --> 1:36:23.000 Like the halftime at the super Bowl. I liked it 1:36:23.160 --> 1:36:26.200 like a pre I did God Bless America one year 1:36:26.280 --> 1:36:28.360 and then I did a pre performance on that. So 1:36:28.400 --> 1:36:32.160 I've never had like the the that prime big for us, 1:36:32.200 --> 1:36:37.639 sir down it was it Usher or you know, Kendrick 1:36:37.800 --> 1:36:40.280 or whatever. You know, it's not that that halftime spot. 1:36:40.560 --> 1:36:43.240 Okay, So let me ask you they call you next year, 1:36:43.560 --> 1:36:47.120 twenty twenty six, John Legend headline. 1:36:48.200 --> 1:36:50.920 You know, I honestly, I don't think it's great for 1:36:51.080 --> 1:36:55.760 artists that are more like if like most of my 1:36:55.880 --> 1:36:58.040 hits are ballads. So it's like, I feel like it's 1:36:58.080 --> 1:36:59.920 better if you got a lot of up tempo hits 1:37:00.120 --> 1:37:00.840 for the super Bowl. 1:37:01.840 --> 1:37:03.840 It just feels more right. You got that. I got 1:37:03.880 --> 1:37:07.560 a little little little something. Yeah, yeah, you will do it. 1:37:07.640 --> 1:37:10.960 I can see you halftime show. It could be done, 1:37:11.400 --> 1:37:14.720 all right. So if super Bowl calls you twenty six, 1:37:16.760 --> 1:37:19.400 what is your your playlist? My set list? 1:37:20.160 --> 1:37:22.120 You know, I'll mix it up, do some up tempos, 1:37:22.200 --> 1:37:26.719 some slows, so we'll do green light, we'll do ordinated people, 1:37:26.840 --> 1:37:27.600 We'll do all of. 1:37:27.680 --> 1:37:34.439 Me probably like love me now, you know, I don't know. 1:37:34.479 --> 1:37:35.320 I have to think about it. 1:37:36.600 --> 1:37:39.360 Some features, like some of the you bring along as 1:37:39.360 --> 1:37:41.880 I've guessed it on like Grammar Family, bring it up 1:37:41.960 --> 1:37:43.439 some Yeah, we'll figure it out. 1:37:43.680 --> 1:37:44.080 I don't know. 1:37:45.240 --> 1:37:47.880 Yeah, we'll definite had some collapse. It's just on the 1:37:47.920 --> 1:37:50.320 top of one artist. Will you Did you bring up. 1:37:53.840 --> 1:37:54.680 A snooper? Rick? 1:37:54.960 --> 1:37:56.920 Yeah, that'll be good, Rick Ross. We got a bunch 1:37:56.920 --> 1:37:57.720 of Doubt records together. 1:37:57.800 --> 1:37:59.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah do. 1:38:00.479 --> 1:38:02.720 I was making playlists of like different collabs, and I 1:38:02.800 --> 1:38:04.800 made a whole playlist just of me and Rick because 1:38:04.800 --> 1:38:08.840 it was like ten songs Justice League, right. I think 1:38:08.880 --> 1:38:10.679 it started with college and then. 1:38:12.680 --> 1:38:17.280 No, probably call it because colleg was his exec at 1:38:17.320 --> 1:38:23.439 Deaf Jam South right earlier. Yes, so, so I don't 1:38:23.439 --> 1:38:25.360 know what came first, but green Light came out and 1:38:25.439 --> 1:38:27.560 he did like a remix that I heard and I 1:38:27.600 --> 1:38:28.519 didn't even know him yet. 1:38:28.479 --> 1:38:31.000 Like a mixtape joint, Yeah, mixtape joint of green Light 1:38:31.320 --> 1:38:32.599 where he was rhyming on him. 1:38:33.160 --> 1:38:35.240 And then not long after that he reached out to 1:38:35.360 --> 1:38:38.080 us about Magnificent, But I think it was through Collin. 1:38:39.640 --> 1:38:42.600 You know, what's one of your favorite places to perform? Uh, 1:38:42.880 --> 1:38:45.640 South Africa? Love it? I love Johannesberger. 1:38:46.000 --> 1:38:53.120 Yeah, crazy crowds there, Soul South Korea. Crazy crowds in Korea. Yeah, 1:38:54.000 --> 1:38:58.840 I love like London and Amsterdam a lot. In the US, 1:38:58.960 --> 1:39:04.560 I love DC area, Atlanta area, Miami's cool. It's like 1:39:05.160 --> 1:39:08.120 i'd say, my best audiences are a no, no, no, 1:39:08.560 --> 1:39:09.719 I'm not I'm not sure. 1:39:09.840 --> 1:39:10.559 I'm just being honest. 1:39:10.920 --> 1:39:13.880 My best audience is a DC area, Atlanta area, in 1:39:14.000 --> 1:39:17.000 Chicago area, I would say so, and the Bay Area 1:39:17.560 --> 1:39:18.760 in the Bank think a lot. 1:39:18.800 --> 1:39:22.680 You describe the blackest cities, yeah, the world? Yeah, you know, 1:39:22.880 --> 1:39:24.160 let's make some noise. Yea. 1:39:26.680 --> 1:39:31.960 So my my wife, my wife, she's here, she's Latina. Right, 1:39:32.880 --> 1:39:36.559 do you get like any type of thing for your 1:39:36.600 --> 1:39:38.320 wife not being a black woman? 1:39:40.800 --> 1:39:43.240 Not really, But you know, I think when we first 1:39:43.280 --> 1:39:45.599 started dating we probably got some. But we've been together 1:39:45.640 --> 1:39:49.599 for so long. Everybody's like, yeah, yeah, of course that. Yeah, 1:39:49.600 --> 1:39:51.479 we've been together since six. 1:39:51.680 --> 1:39:53.679 So what do they call that? Interracial data? 1:39:53.880 --> 1:39:56.679 Yeah, we're in the racial So my wife is half 1:39:56.760 --> 1:40:01.440 Asian and half white and then I'm black, So interracial. 1:40:01.680 --> 1:40:05.760 Yeah, inter racial. Do we make a noise? Let's take 1:40:05.800 --> 1:40:17.120 it block kids in confused? Now, this motherfucker were all 1:40:17.200 --> 1:40:21.280 type of racist? Are we're human? Is your wife like 1:40:21.400 --> 1:40:25.800 light skin? Latine my head. Yeah, so your kids will 1:40:25.840 --> 1:40:27.800 be like in between, we got kids. 1:40:35.080 --> 1:40:37.040 My kids are actually the exact same color as me, 1:40:38.560 --> 1:40:42.439 but they just got you know, less kinky hair down. 1:40:42.600 --> 1:40:47.840 Now got there's a little more waving. Okay, no wave, Grace, no, 1:40:48.040 --> 1:40:53.840 no way, grace no no King of the Moon girl girl, 1:40:55.120 --> 1:40:57.520 what place have you performed. 1:40:57.120 --> 1:40:59.920 As country wise that you were? You just were like, 1:41:00.120 --> 1:41:02.280 this is wild that I'm even here in this country, 1:41:02.320 --> 1:41:03.559 that they that I have fans here. 1:41:04.320 --> 1:41:06.040 Well, the first time I went to South Africa, it 1:41:06.120 --> 1:41:08.320 was right at the beginning of my career, and you 1:41:08.400 --> 1:41:10.800 don't really know how you're going to do internationally when 1:41:11.080 --> 1:41:14.200 at the beginning and I went there and I was like, 1:41:14.400 --> 1:41:16.920 I couldn't believe how much love I had there and 1:41:17.040 --> 1:41:18.400 everybody knew every song. 1:41:19.400 --> 1:41:20.080 That was amazing. 1:41:20.160 --> 1:41:22.040 But then going to Asia, going to places where they 1:41:22.040 --> 1:41:25.479 don't speak English, non English speaking, Yeah, so you go 1:41:25.560 --> 1:41:28.960 to Japan, and you go to Italy, you go to Spain, 1:41:29.120 --> 1:41:31.040 you know, all these different places where people don't even 1:41:31.080 --> 1:41:33.280 speak the language that you're singing in and then they 1:41:33.320 --> 1:41:36.920 sing the songs back to you. It feels pretty much. Yeah, 1:41:37.520 --> 1:41:39.160 I was just there last year and how. 1:41:39.200 --> 1:41:39.519 Was that was? 1:41:39.640 --> 1:41:39.840 Dover. 1:41:40.080 --> 1:41:42.040 Yeah, I was into it. We had a good time. 1:41:42.320 --> 1:41:46.639 I'll probably go back. And you got engaged in where 1:41:48.320 --> 1:41:51.599 in the Maldives and then you got married at lake 1:41:51.640 --> 1:41:52.880 Como in Italy. 1:41:58.439 --> 1:42:02.200 That's my place. I love. You've been to Maldives soon? 1:42:02.439 --> 1:42:04.920 Of course? Oh yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. I 1:42:04.920 --> 1:42:05.479 ain't gonna lie. 1:42:05.560 --> 1:42:08.320 Me and my wife turned up just us, yeah, because god, 1:42:08.400 --> 1:42:08.800 we didn't go. 1:42:09.000 --> 1:42:10.080 And you went with other people. 1:42:10.320 --> 1:42:13.080 Well, when we got engaged, it was just the two 1:42:13.160 --> 1:42:15.400 of us. We didn't have kids or anything. So we 1:42:15.720 --> 1:42:20.080 in the Maldives. Yeah, and so that was twenty eleven. 1:42:20.520 --> 1:42:23.320 Uh. And then we had already been to Lake. 1:42:23.240 --> 1:42:26.680 Como as a couple just dating, and it's like the 1:42:26.800 --> 1:42:28.720 most beautiful romantic place. 1:42:28.600 --> 1:42:31.120 You could go. You feel like you're in heaven. And 1:42:31.200 --> 1:42:33.879 then the little boats. Yeah, we're in a little boats, 1:42:34.040 --> 1:42:36.720 you know, going on dates on a boat. You know, 1:42:36.840 --> 1:42:44.439 it's like life is good. That's my staff. I always say. 1:42:44.520 --> 1:42:47.320 We fell in love at lake Como, and so we 1:42:47.439 --> 1:42:50.120 decided we would get married there, and so we got 1:42:50.200 --> 1:42:54.400 married there in twenty thirteen, and we shot the All 1:42:54.479 --> 1:42:56.240 of Me video there too, So if you look at 1:42:56.280 --> 1:42:59.120 the video, double dipped yeah, so the whole So it 1:42:59.200 --> 1:43:01.000 was like I got to expend some of the trip. 1:43:06.439 --> 1:43:09.720 But the craziest thing about the video is it was directed. 1:43:09.400 --> 1:43:11.480 By this guy named Nobille Elderkin. 1:43:11.160 --> 1:43:14.880 And he's the guy that is the reason why Christian 1:43:14.880 --> 1:43:18.200 and I met because he was the director of the 1:43:18.400 --> 1:43:22.880 very first video where we met, and Christian and I 1:43:23.000 --> 1:43:26.040 started dating after we met on the video set, and 1:43:27.120 --> 1:43:30.000 so this guy is responsible for us meeting and he 1:43:30.080 --> 1:43:31.600 ended up directing the video for all of. 1:43:31.640 --> 1:43:36.240 Me, you know, seven years later. And did he directed 1:43:37.240 --> 1:43:41.080 the proposal? No, we didn't shoot that. We didn't shoot that. 1:43:41.160 --> 1:43:44.200 That was just that was just us. That was just us. 1:43:45.840 --> 1:43:53.280 I mean it's a very famous yea, a very famous guy. 1:43:55.040 --> 1:43:57.400 So how was your proposal? What did you do? So? 1:43:57.840 --> 1:43:59.920 You you're a very smooth guy. I want to compare you. 1:44:00.840 --> 1:44:01.120 I was. 1:44:01.400 --> 1:44:04.479 It was like a few months I decided I was 1:44:04.520 --> 1:44:05.960 going to do it, and I decided I was going 1:44:06.000 --> 1:44:10.920 to do it on this trip, and I started getting 1:44:10.920 --> 1:44:12.840 the ring together and everything, and I have this little 1:44:14.000 --> 1:44:17.120 package trying to disguise the ring in my bag in 1:44:17.240 --> 1:44:20.360 case she like saw it in my bag. And so 1:44:21.000 --> 1:44:25.320 I had this nondescript just envelope with the ring package 1:44:25.360 --> 1:44:28.280 in there, and so I'm just trying to make sure 1:44:28.320 --> 1:44:31.240 she don't see it so I can actually propose in 1:44:31.400 --> 1:44:33.080 the moment, you know where I want to do it. 1:44:33.720 --> 1:44:36.400 And we're flying to the Maldi's and back then you 1:44:36.520 --> 1:44:40.600 had to fly through Colombo, Sri Lanka, but now you 1:44:40.640 --> 1:44:41.800 can fly direct to Malee. 1:44:41.960 --> 1:44:46.320 But before we flowed to the Dubai, spent a day 1:44:46.320 --> 1:44:47.679 at Duba and then to Malee. 1:44:48.080 --> 1:44:52.679 But back then you had to go somewhere Dubai, then 1:44:52.760 --> 1:44:58.679 to Sri Lanka and then it's horrible times. But nowadays 1:44:58.760 --> 1:45:00.280 you can go straight to Malee from the Bye. 1:45:00.479 --> 1:45:01.360 So that's what we do now. 1:45:01.560 --> 1:45:07.360 Anyway, we're going through the airport and they're rifling. 1:45:07.000 --> 1:45:09.680 Through my bag. I'm like, y'all better not open this 1:45:09.880 --> 1:45:11.639 fucking ring man. Wait wait customs. 1:45:11.920 --> 1:45:15.880 Yeah, you know the people can't say basically wipeople right there. 1:45:16.000 --> 1:45:19.120 Yeah, but this cer over in they about to blow 1:45:19.160 --> 1:45:21.920 you up. Yeah. So they're going through, going through, going through, 1:45:22.200 --> 1:45:24.000 and they were just about. 1:45:23.760 --> 1:45:26.840 To open that envelope. But God must have spoke to him. 1:45:26.720 --> 1:45:31.160 And said not now, son, right right right, right, right 1:45:31.280 --> 1:45:34.240 right right, because he didn't open up the envelope. 1:45:34.520 --> 1:45:37.679 And I got to propose on the beach in the Maldives. 1:45:37.720 --> 1:45:41.880 So it was for like Christmas Eve dinner on the 1:45:41.960 --> 1:45:43.000 beach in the Maldives. 1:45:43.160 --> 1:45:52.880 One two three. We're about to have dessert. 1:45:52.720 --> 1:45:55.000 And I tell the you know, a way to bring 1:45:55.080 --> 1:45:58.040 out the ring with dessert, and he brings it out 1:45:58.080 --> 1:46:01.519 in a little tray and then she sees it starts 1:46:01.600 --> 1:46:06.799 crying and she said, yes, that's similar to my proposal. 1:46:07.000 --> 1:46:12.960 But you just did it in about these no, no, no, 1:46:13.160 --> 1:46:20.400 let me about you old so okay, all these she 1:46:20.520 --> 1:46:23.800 says yes. She says yes obviously, and then we go. 1:46:24.160 --> 1:46:25.760 Then we go over to Thailand because her mom and 1:46:25.880 --> 1:46:27.360 dad were living in Thailand at the time. 1:46:27.439 --> 1:46:31.479 Her mom's tie and uh. And then we show them 1:46:31.560 --> 1:46:34.519 the ring. Uh when we land at the airport and 1:46:34.560 --> 1:46:36.920 they're like ah. And her mom didn't really get it. 1:46:37.160 --> 1:46:39.799 She was like, Okay, that's a nice ring. It's pretty 1:46:39.960 --> 1:46:40.639 was the first. 1:46:42.960 --> 1:46:46.120 I doubt it. She lived in Bangkok, you know, it's 1:46:46.720 --> 1:46:49.800 kind of Bangkok. Him the bank, the bankok, and they 1:46:49.920 --> 1:46:56.280 lived Yeah. And then and they lived in America. Yeah. 1:46:56.320 --> 1:46:58.840 So Christy was Christy was born in the Internet. 1:46:58.880 --> 1:46:59.000 You know. 1:46:59.400 --> 1:47:02.640 Christy was about Christie was born in America and her 1:47:02.720 --> 1:47:05.559 dad was born and raised in America and he met 1:47:05.640 --> 1:47:05.920 her mom. 1:47:06.640 --> 1:47:07.840 Her mom over there, but. 1:47:08.120 --> 1:47:10.320 Then they lived in America for a long time, but 1:47:10.400 --> 1:47:11.960 then they moved back to Thailand, and that's when I 1:47:12.000 --> 1:47:13.479 met them, when they had moved back to Thailand. 1:47:13.880 --> 1:47:20.800 Yeah, you like Thailand. Yeah, it's beautiful, beautiful back then, 1:47:21.080 --> 1:47:23.960 I don't think I think they stopped I think they 1:47:24.000 --> 1:47:27.280 stopped it. I think that's legal. Yeah, I think it was. 1:47:28.880 --> 1:47:29.759 If you do some crazy. 1:47:30.400 --> 1:47:37.240 Singapore, Singapore, Singapore America, Singapore. 1:47:37.320 --> 1:47:38.479 Singapore is really strict. 1:47:38.560 --> 1:47:43.000 Yeah, Singapore is like you can't shoot gum and yeah, 1:47:43.240 --> 1:47:43.960 it's very clean. 1:47:44.360 --> 1:47:47.240 It's very clean. Well, Singapore is beautiful, but it's it's 1:47:47.280 --> 1:47:47.920 definitely strict. 1:47:48.160 --> 1:47:51.439 I went to Singapore one time, and this is the 1:47:51.560 --> 1:47:55.559 time where the whole economy was tobacco, and I had 1:47:55.600 --> 1:47:57.439 two carts a new Ports. 1:47:57.439 --> 1:47:59.439 I used to smoke, and they pulled me over like 1:47:59.520 --> 1:48:04.360 I had like you got buy her, you got buy it? Yeah, yeah, 1:48:04.680 --> 1:48:06.479 they this is how crazy it was. 1:48:06.720 --> 1:48:08.840 They made me throw out the cigarettes and then they 1:48:08.880 --> 1:48:12.840 made me buy their cigarettes in customs and I bought it, 1:48:12.920 --> 1:48:17.080 like I I definitely did it. You got to buy 1:48:17.080 --> 1:48:21.479 a little what's your favorite country. The performer, well, South Africa, 1:48:21.920 --> 1:48:28.519 Korea said, I love playing in Amsterdam and London, and yeah, 1:48:28.560 --> 1:48:29.360 those are my favorites. 1:48:30.680 --> 1:48:32.000 I have a couple of times. 1:48:32.960 --> 1:48:35.800 It was before it got crazy experience. Yeah, it was 1:48:35.880 --> 1:48:37.240 before it got crazy lately, like. 1:48:37.280 --> 1:48:39.880 With the war and everything. But uh, I was there. 1:48:40.240 --> 1:48:41.240 It was like for a birthday. 1:48:41.320 --> 1:48:43.320 It was like a private birthday party or something and 1:48:43.800 --> 1:48:46.439 some you know them guys with the big money, they 1:48:46.479 --> 1:48:48.160 want somebody to come and sing their birthday party. 1:48:48.640 --> 1:48:52.719 It was in Moscow. Yeah, at like a theater. It's beautiful, 1:48:53.520 --> 1:48:58.160 beautiful cities. Yeah, she's the Louis Properties. I've been just 1:48:58.240 --> 1:49:00.240 about everywhere. There's a very few places I have been. 1:49:00.320 --> 1:49:05.280 But yeah, you performed a kow not kouw. 1:49:05.560 --> 1:49:14.880 But I played Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, a 1:49:14.960 --> 1:49:19.160 bunch of Middle Eastern places. Yeah. Yeah, Morocco, like I 1:49:19.439 --> 1:49:23.080 just take a shot. But for him performing every yes, worldwide, 1:49:25.240 --> 1:49:28.680 shots are gone. Here we go yeah shot yeah, yeah, 1:49:28.680 --> 1:49:30.880 because we like if we don't want you, we don't 1:49:30.880 --> 1:49:33.200 want to. Yeah, we want you to catch a flight 1:49:33.280 --> 1:49:37.880 you know. Yeah yeous. 1:49:39.400 --> 1:49:45.200 So anything in your whole career, right, yeah, beautiful lovely career, 1:49:45.360 --> 1:49:47.880 beautiful wife, beautiful children, beautiful everything. 1:49:47.880 --> 1:49:53.360 Apparently, never have a bad day, according to listen, being honest. 1:49:53.120 --> 1:49:56.040 I'm spreading the rumor you leave here. It might it 1:49:56.120 --> 1:49:59.200 might read John Legend never has a bad joy. It 1:49:59.320 --> 1:50:01.519 might just read that I just mean. But by the way, 1:50:03.400 --> 1:50:05.040 this is one of my friends, right, this is this 1:50:05.200 --> 1:50:09.280 is my friend Sonny d b T. He's never had 1:50:09.320 --> 1:50:09.840 a bad day. 1:50:09.920 --> 1:50:12.640 I hate him. I love that for you in a 1:50:12.760 --> 1:50:13.160 good way. 1:50:13.439 --> 1:50:15.200 He never had a bad day, and Haiti is the 1:50:15.600 --> 1:50:16.640 source of everything. 1:50:16.760 --> 1:50:18.519 In a good way, like in a good way, like 1:50:18.680 --> 1:50:19.160 he like. 1:50:19.920 --> 1:50:22.800 If ever I'm having a bad day, I call him 1:50:23.040 --> 1:50:26.400 and he'll be He'll he'll simply say some foul ship, 1:50:26.520 --> 1:50:29.880 like shut the fuck up, let's go outside on this 1:50:30.120 --> 1:50:34.200 and we'll have a great day. Yes, I cherished people 1:50:34.280 --> 1:50:38.000 like that. Yeah, is that who you are? Can I 1:50:38.080 --> 1:50:39.400 call you on a bad day and you'd be like, 1:50:39.560 --> 1:50:39.920 shut up? 1:50:40.000 --> 1:50:42.880 Nigga trying to find him bright side, trying to find 1:50:42.920 --> 1:50:45.479 the right side for you, man, trying to find find 1:50:45.560 --> 1:50:47.920 the right side for you. He wants you to start 1:50:47.960 --> 1:50:51.439 a hot line. I got to be his friend, John Legend, 1:50:51.520 --> 1:50:53.760 never have a bad day, never have a bad day. 1:50:57.880 --> 1:51:01.759 Back in the when they first started doing the voice 1:51:02.800 --> 1:51:05.479 activated assistant for Google. 1:51:06.479 --> 1:51:07.640 They made me the voice of it. 1:51:07.760 --> 1:51:10.479 So really I had to literally go to the studio 1:51:10.520 --> 1:51:12.920 and just record myself saying all kinds. 1:51:12.720 --> 1:51:17.160 Of words Jillian things, excuse me, check though. Yeah. It 1:51:17.240 --> 1:51:19.920 was a good check but it was a lot of work. 1:51:19.960 --> 1:51:22.240 It was like literally ten days in the studio of 1:51:22.439 --> 1:51:24.000 like six to eight hour days. 1:51:23.880 --> 1:51:26.680 Of just reading things. Does that still exists now? 1:51:26.760 --> 1:51:29.599 It was like a one year promotion, so you could 1:51:29.960 --> 1:51:32.360 if you have one of those Google Home things, you 1:51:32.439 --> 1:51:34.200 would have my voice on it for a year and 1:51:34.280 --> 1:51:35.160 then you was like Siri. 1:51:35.600 --> 1:51:38.360 Yeah, I was like Siri for Google, I would buy 1:51:41.160 --> 1:51:47.880 all Have you done more things like that in the 1:51:47.920 --> 1:51:51.240 tech space, I've done a lot of stuff. Yeah. 1:51:51.479 --> 1:51:53.800 Well we worked with them on their AI project too, 1:51:53.920 --> 1:51:57.720 Google's too. So one thing that I'm curious about in 1:51:57.800 --> 1:52:00.439 the R and B space in terms of related to 1:52:00.640 --> 1:52:02.880 hip hop space. Yeah, so, you know, in the hip 1:52:02.880 --> 1:52:06.000 hop space generationally, we're looking at the differences in the sound. 1:52:06.320 --> 1:52:07.680 Uh huh. Do you see that in the R and 1:52:07.760 --> 1:52:08.479 B space as well? 1:52:09.120 --> 1:52:11.040 But I think a lot of R and B artists 1:52:11.080 --> 1:52:13.960 still like hold on to some of the classic sounds, 1:52:14.000 --> 1:52:16.120 but they're always like. But the thing is R and 1:52:16.200 --> 1:52:18.080 B and hip hop are so close, Like we work 1:52:18.160 --> 1:52:21.040 with a lot of the same producers, and so a 1:52:21.080 --> 1:52:23.200 lot of things that are happening in hip hop, we're 1:52:23.280 --> 1:52:25.320 doing it as well. But there's still a lot of 1:52:25.400 --> 1:52:27.120 R and B artists. I think that like the classic 1:52:27.200 --> 1:52:27.599 sounds too. 1:52:27.800 --> 1:52:29.920 Do you ever feel like you are hip hop just 1:52:30.760 --> 1:52:32.439 by the nature of how you came up? 1:52:32.560 --> 1:52:34.599 I feel I'm so connected to hip hop. I feel 1:52:34.600 --> 1:52:37.719 like I've made so many hip hop records. I literally 1:52:37.880 --> 1:52:40.080 was going through because we're doing some promotions for my 1:52:40.120 --> 1:52:43.800 anniversary of Get Lifted, and I was going through all 1:52:43.840 --> 1:52:45.719 the hip hop collapse I have and making a playlist 1:52:46.240 --> 1:52:48.599 and it's massive, Like the list, it's crazy. 1:52:48.720 --> 1:52:51.360 So yeah, hip hop is so core to my. 1:52:52.360 --> 1:52:55.160 Career and my musical identity and everything. 1:52:55.400 --> 1:52:56.679 So it's John Legend rapped. 1:52:57.680 --> 1:53:01.360 I have go back and list listen to a record 1:53:01.439 --> 1:53:05.680 with Consequence. He wrote the rapskay and. 1:53:07.240 --> 1:53:10.960 He like produced my session, but I did rap with him. 1:53:10.880 --> 1:53:11.320 On the song. 1:53:11.600 --> 1:53:14.720 Did you enjoy that experience? I did. I feel like 1:53:14.720 --> 1:53:17.040 I'd be better at it now, like I just have 1:53:17.200 --> 1:53:20.240 more understanding of whatever. 1:53:20.360 --> 1:53:22.680 So you've not and I've been writing raps actually for 1:53:22.800 --> 1:53:23.599 a Broadway show. 1:53:24.240 --> 1:53:30.080 Really yeah, writing raps? Yeah, he rhymed. Well, he's talking. 1:53:29.880 --> 1:53:31.800 About how hip hop is so important to my career, 1:53:31.840 --> 1:53:33.240 and I was talking about how many times I've been 1:53:33.280 --> 1:53:35.800 on hip hop records the whole life, my whole career. 1:53:36.240 --> 1:53:37.920 But he was like, have you ever rapped? 1:53:37.960 --> 1:53:40.559 And I said, I did one record with Consequence where 1:53:40.600 --> 1:53:41.080 he wrote the. 1:53:41.120 --> 1:53:42.000 Raps and I did him. 1:53:43.200 --> 1:53:47.040 But I've actually been writing raps for Broadway for a show. 1:53:47.080 --> 1:53:47.479 I'm writing. 1:53:47.800 --> 1:53:52.720 Oh, that's fine. What's your relationship with Consequence? He hit me, 1:53:53.360 --> 1:53:55.479 like a couple of weeks ago. I love Yeah, Like 1:53:55.560 --> 1:53:56.840 I don't. I don't talk to him a lot, but 1:53:57.280 --> 1:54:00.200 all love. We were like in the early day, he's 1:54:00.240 --> 1:54:01.400 a tour and we were roommates. 1:54:01.800 --> 1:54:05.880 Like uh so, so he'd have uh you know when 1:54:05.920 --> 1:54:07.840 you when you have a broke artist and you just 1:54:07.920 --> 1:54:10.800 on tour support, like everybody got double up, so you 1:54:11.040 --> 1:54:12.200 sleep in the double rooms. 1:54:12.439 --> 1:54:14.960 He's in one bed, I'm in the other. So Console 1:54:15.080 --> 1:54:20.920 was my roommate. Who was these other people that's on 1:54:21.000 --> 1:54:24.400 the tour? Consequence you GLC, don c. 1:54:26.360 --> 1:54:31.839 Yay, Monopoly monop would come out a lot really really. 1:54:31.680 --> 1:54:34.680 Dough doing tour buses or not. We were on tour buses. 1:54:35.080 --> 1:54:37.760 Those are rigorous. Yeah, those tour buses are. I like 1:54:37.840 --> 1:54:38.440 tour buses. 1:54:38.920 --> 1:54:42.400 Man, Well I get the start bus now, yeah, I 1:54:42.440 --> 1:54:44.760 get to stop goodse I got the bed, I got 1:54:44.800 --> 1:54:46.680 the actual everybody else is. 1:54:46.680 --> 1:54:49.440 In bunks and then you're in a nice bed. Yeah. 1:54:50.160 --> 1:54:53.240 But I don't mind it because as a singer, you 1:54:53.320 --> 1:54:56.640 don't love being up and down in the uh because 1:54:56.720 --> 1:54:59.000 the air yeah mess with your vocal. 1:54:59.040 --> 1:55:01.920 You just get dry and going up and down all 1:55:01.960 --> 1:55:06.360 the time for shows, and so it's easier for just 1:55:06.400 --> 1:55:06.600 to be. 1:55:06.640 --> 1:55:09.400 On the bus. You know why I love good music. 1:55:09.640 --> 1:55:10.560 I'ma be honest with you. 1:55:13.000 --> 1:55:14.560 I came up in an arrow where we had to 1:55:14.640 --> 1:55:19.040 be gangster, right, and we had to keep up that gangster. 1:55:19.440 --> 1:55:22.680 If you not gangster for one week, there's someone who 1:55:22.720 --> 1:55:26.440 will come and try to take that slot that same week. 1:55:26.640 --> 1:55:27.880 Just you're just trying to chill. 1:55:31.000 --> 1:55:36.160 I got introduced to a person named for Real. His 1:55:36.320 --> 1:55:39.920 first lines he ever said to me was I don't 1:55:39.960 --> 1:55:43.200 have a gangster bone in my body. At the time, 1:55:45.360 --> 1:55:48.840 I could have been like this egotistic maniac and been 1:55:48.920 --> 1:55:52.840 like what because he had on a medium shirt. I 1:55:52.920 --> 1:55:55.640 had on a five acts right, So this is the 1:55:55.760 --> 1:55:59.840 time of Fox, right, No, I know, and I chose 1:56:00.080 --> 1:56:03.200 to believe in that movement. Yeah, I chose to believe. 1:56:03.240 --> 1:56:04.600 I was like, fuck that you don't have to be. 1:56:04.920 --> 1:56:07.360 But if Pharrell knew how to make gangster beats for y'all, 1:56:07.880 --> 1:56:13.040 you know, and me and Pharrell made all this. But 1:56:13.800 --> 1:56:18.840 to me, I always remember those first words they said 1:56:18.880 --> 1:56:21.720 to me, and then it trickled down to good music, right. 1:56:22.960 --> 1:56:26.320 And I always loved y'all because that's what y'all represented. 1:56:26.920 --> 1:56:33.920 Represent the gangster part of life, yeah, represented the I 1:56:33.960 --> 1:56:37.200 don't want to the ordinary people part of life. 1:56:37.320 --> 1:56:37.520 Yeah. 1:56:37.600 --> 1:56:39.240 And most people aren't gangsters, you know. 1:56:39.600 --> 1:56:44.240 And so and you know the thing about us being 1:56:44.280 --> 1:56:49.600 attracted to artists that describe that life, It is attractive 1:56:49.600 --> 1:56:51.840 because it's just like you want to watch Scarface or 1:56:51.880 --> 1:56:52.600 you want to watch. 1:56:52.800 --> 1:56:54.360 Like you want to watch Against the movie. 1:56:54.280 --> 1:56:56.600 And so there's something appealing about that even if you 1:56:56.720 --> 1:56:59.400 haven't lived that life, like you're fascinated by that life. 1:56:59.600 --> 1:57:01.640 And so I see why people love gangst the rap. 1:57:02.000 --> 1:57:05.320 But it also helped Kanye stand out when he was 1:57:05.400 --> 1:57:08.360 like we're in the polos and talking about dropping out 1:57:08.400 --> 1:57:11.480 of college. When he was on the same label with 1:57:12.040 --> 1:57:15.360 guys rapping about Dylan Coke, it was like it made 1:57:15.440 --> 1:57:17.360 him stand out, you know, And I'm giving it to 1:57:17.520 --> 1:57:20.560 y'all in its entirety. It just because it was all 1:57:20.680 --> 1:57:23.600 of y'all like yeah, like I mean, but I wasn't rapping, 1:57:23.680 --> 1:57:24.680 so like I didn't. 1:57:24.480 --> 1:57:26.760 Have to be gast it was I was singing, but 1:57:26.840 --> 1:57:30.040 you were singing. That was the outfit. 1:57:31.000 --> 1:57:32.920 But I didn't have to be gangster though, But as 1:57:32.960 --> 1:57:35.040 a rapper, that was a bold thing to do to 1:57:35.200 --> 1:57:37.560 like not to be the only non I was very. 1:57:37.520 --> 1:57:40.600 Gangster, Yeah, Kanye, to be that way, it's bold, it's authentic. 1:57:40.720 --> 1:57:46.240 Yeah yeah, And now we have a whole genre of 1:57:47.600 --> 1:57:50.440 that music. But then we have a whole genre of 1:57:50.880 --> 1:57:53.600 dead music. Jesus Christmas. 1:57:54.400 --> 1:57:59.240 These people rhyme about killing people, and it's crazy because 1:57:59.400 --> 1:58:02.920 I'm un quote against the wrapping and I listen to 1:58:03.000 --> 1:58:04.000 this ship like, oh. 1:58:06.040 --> 1:58:08.000 No, but you're saying it wrong because you guys, you 1:58:08.080 --> 1:58:10.840 guys are rhyming about killing people in a way, the 1:58:11.440 --> 1:58:14.120 kids are literally rhyming about killing people for. 1:58:14.320 --> 1:58:17.760 Real, like you talking about like, yeah, we don't about 1:58:17.840 --> 1:58:22.680 drill is mostly in New York, right, it's all over it. Yeah, 1:58:22.800 --> 1:58:24.040 you know, I'm saying, where did that start? 1:58:24.360 --> 1:58:28.160 Chicago's gets Chicago gets yeah, gets gets. 1:58:27.960 --> 1:58:32.200 Scort starts, I think really and London. 1:58:32.800 --> 1:58:35.640 Yeah, London, like there's there's city, Like New York has 1:58:35.680 --> 1:58:37.200 its own version that's. 1:58:37.080 --> 1:58:40.360 Drill and then yeah London, Like I'm so gree Like 1:58:40.720 --> 1:58:43.200 one day I was just like I hit some really 1:58:43.360 --> 1:58:43.840 talk about it. 1:58:44.280 --> 1:58:52.440 That's drill. I mean, but I think that's that was 1:58:52.720 --> 1:58:54.720 for New York. But I even think it's changed so 1:58:54.880 --> 1:58:55.480 much from them. 1:58:56.160 --> 1:58:59.280 It's gotten so much, like where they really like because 1:58:59.280 --> 1:59:02.040 they're using souli media with the music to really like 1:59:03.040 --> 1:59:05.879 this is what I'm really doing, but they're like outing themselves. 1:59:05.920 --> 1:59:06.760 It's just wild. 1:59:06.880 --> 1:59:09.200 It's it's what what do you think about the whole 1:59:09.480 --> 1:59:12.640 movement to not hold like a record against the person, 1:59:12.840 --> 1:59:17.640 Like like how with the uh in the case you 1:59:17.720 --> 1:59:20.320 can't like quote the lyrics it blurs the lines. 1:59:21.280 --> 1:59:21.840 Complicated. 1:59:22.040 --> 1:59:26.560 Yeah, it's really complicated, man, Like I really think that 1:59:26.640 --> 1:59:30.120 that art should be separated, yeah, from the judicial system in. 1:59:30.160 --> 1:59:33.640 That sense, Yeah, you could should be just can't be charged. 1:59:34.480 --> 1:59:36.960 I agree. Like, also, like what the fuck I believe? 1:59:37.160 --> 1:59:39.440 I believe you shouldn't. You shouldn't be able to hold 1:59:39.520 --> 1:59:40.720 someone's song against them. 1:59:40.880 --> 1:59:43.040 You got to have real evidence that they did something, 1:59:43.680 --> 1:59:46.440 not just that they rapped about something hard. 1:59:46.520 --> 1:59:51.720 That Nigga killed nineteen for sure, exactly sure, so he 1:59:51.920 --> 1:59:56.760 really didn't that's the problem. But Rus, that is not that. 1:59:57.240 --> 1:59:59.400 But the point is, it's not enough proof to say 1:59:59.440 --> 2:00:01.680 someone made art about killing somebody. 2:00:01.760 --> 2:00:03.440 You have to be able to prove they actually did it, 2:00:03.560 --> 2:00:04.760 absolutely absolutely. 2:00:04.840 --> 2:00:07.960 Because I remember you being against the stopping chriss, Yeah, 2:00:08.080 --> 2:00:09.320 he was fully against the stopping. 2:00:09.560 --> 2:00:12.720 Now I'm generally like trying to find ways to make 2:00:13.080 --> 2:00:16.160 everything more just for us, you know, And so I 2:00:16.240 --> 2:00:18.760 don't like the idea of them holding songs against us. 2:00:19.720 --> 2:00:21.800 I don't like the idea of stopping frisk. I don't 2:00:21.880 --> 2:00:24.240 like the idea of illegal searches in general. And I'm 2:00:24.320 --> 2:00:26.760 just always going to be on the side of standing 2:00:26.840 --> 2:00:28.120 up for us and not locking a. 2:00:28.120 --> 2:00:29.920 Bunch of us up. That's why are we running for 2:00:30.000 --> 2:00:38.920 president twenty twenty? Excellent? But I don't know what God does. 2:00:42.520 --> 2:00:45.720 How long you live down here, mem I'm going on 2:00:45.880 --> 2:00:47.400 like seventeen years. 2:00:47.560 --> 2:00:50.000 Yeah, you never going back? You said, I don't want 2:00:50.040 --> 2:00:52.080 no more snow. No, I don't want to sound. 2:00:53.600 --> 2:00:55.480 You like the snows. I'm good with it. 2:00:55.720 --> 2:00:59.360 No, it's filming the fuck Korean Kareem is here, that's 2:00:59.400 --> 2:00:59.920 what jamake. 2:01:00.280 --> 2:01:04.920 He don't stop working. Yes, yeah, you got eight jobs, 2:01:06.040 --> 2:01:08.640 but you do. I don't like the cold. 2:01:08.760 --> 2:01:12.320 I'm sorry, Like that is that different people from I'm 2:01:12.360 --> 2:01:16.840 Puerto Rican, but they're black? Okay, yeah, so yeah, I don't. 2:01:16.880 --> 2:01:20.080 I don't think any side of my side wants to 2:01:20.320 --> 2:01:23.960 reside wants to the cold, Like like why, like how 2:01:24.880 --> 2:01:27.840 I put it in my whole time in New York. 2:01:28.680 --> 2:01:31.280 Then I moved to New Jersey. I did all the 2:01:31.520 --> 2:01:35.920 like walking with my tams in the snow, and now 2:01:36.120 --> 2:01:37.080 like Louis Tims. 2:01:37.280 --> 2:01:39.160 So it's like a little different. You don't want him 2:01:39.160 --> 2:01:41.840 to get up, Like why can't I just be like 2:01:42.400 --> 2:01:46.240 who I am now? Like funk that I deserve the 2:01:46.400 --> 2:01:50.000 right to where Louis tim. That's right, I deserve the right. 2:01:50.920 --> 2:01:53.080 God damn it. And you said you're working before. What 2:01:53.240 --> 2:01:55.640 are y'all doing? We just started working on the album. 2:01:56.080 --> 2:01:57.320 We never a whole album. 2:01:57.720 --> 2:02:00.800 We never done like a whole big thing together. He 2:02:01.000 --> 2:02:02.800 just did a couple of songs with me years ago. 2:02:03.600 --> 2:02:05.080 And he just called me up in De Simmer. It 2:02:05.200 --> 2:02:08.120 was like, uh, I really am inspired. Like I've been 2:02:08.160 --> 2:02:11.560 thinking about your music and my vision for it. I 2:02:11.600 --> 2:02:14.640 feel like we should just get in and see what happens. Wait, 2:02:14.640 --> 2:02:16.560 he hit you out the blue saying this out the blue. 2:02:16.640 --> 2:02:19.600 That's that's type of it makes sense, makes sense. 2:02:20.560 --> 2:02:20.680 You know. 2:02:20.800 --> 2:02:23.080 He's so creative and he gets inspired and and so 2:02:23.280 --> 2:02:25.000 I've been over to Paris to work with them, and 2:02:25.360 --> 2:02:26.840 we're gonna do it again in March. 2:02:27.680 --> 2:02:29.160 Mm hmm, So we'll see what happens. 2:02:29.240 --> 2:02:33.240 That's your next album, yeah, I mean well, yeah to 2:02:33.360 --> 2:02:36.800 the people that your next album is fully produced Buffalo. 2:02:36.960 --> 2:02:39.400 I'm not gonna say fully produced, yeah, I'm just gonna 2:02:39.400 --> 2:02:40.480 say executive produce. 2:02:40.600 --> 2:02:42.680 Yeah. I'm saying we're getting in and he's gonna ep 2:02:42.800 --> 2:02:50.680 the record. So that's exact. H What is something that 2:02:54.280 --> 2:02:57.080 you did back then you wish you could have did 2:02:58.080 --> 2:03:01.600 right now? Like back then. 2:03:01.800 --> 2:03:05.440 I'll give you an example example. My friend of mine 2:03:05.520 --> 2:03:09.840 is named Tata. I have this number one record. It's 2:03:09.880 --> 2:03:18.680 called Equal Man. I'm I'm Latino, I'm all over thet. 2:03:17.640 --> 2:03:18.800 Comes all over the place. 2:03:19.080 --> 2:03:21.520 Tata comes to me and says, I want a girl 2:03:21.880 --> 2:03:26.800 to do a remix to this record. This is Jay, 2:03:27.360 --> 2:03:29.720 absolutely yes, and he says, I want to go to 2:03:29.800 --> 2:03:31.360 do a remix to this record, and I got to 2:03:31.680 --> 2:03:32.440 just listen to me. 2:03:35.160 --> 2:03:37.200 Somewhat. I don't want to say I said no. I 2:03:37.240 --> 2:03:40.480 didn't say no. But when they asked me the payment, 2:03:40.560 --> 2:03:43.960 it was like it's fifteen grand and I was like, Oh, 2:03:45.200 --> 2:03:50.760 this woman wind up being Rihanna. Oh make this mistake 2:03:50.840 --> 2:03:53.720 of my whole correct I don't have one like that that. 2:03:53.960 --> 2:03:56.400 They don't have one. I don't no, I don't have one. 2:03:56.480 --> 2:03:58.880 That was like, John, we want you to feature with 2:03:59.000 --> 2:04:00.440 this of that artists, and then they went on to 2:04:00.480 --> 2:04:03.440 blow up when I said no, I haven't done that honestly. 2:04:03.600 --> 2:04:09.120 So if you've never said no to somebody that I'm 2:04:09.160 --> 2:04:11.240 trying to think of something. I can't think of anything. 2:04:11.280 --> 2:04:14.320 That means you say yes to everybody. No. It means 2:04:14.440 --> 2:04:16.040 what I say no to I don't regret. 2:04:19.600 --> 2:04:22.160 You know, I said yes a lot, because you know, 2:04:22.200 --> 2:04:23.440 I got a lot of collapse out there. 2:04:23.520 --> 2:04:26.840 But I definitely said no to something. But it didn't 2:04:26.840 --> 2:04:28.720 come back to bite me, honestly, because not for nothing 2:04:28.760 --> 2:04:29.960 Sonny did. He's got a record. 2:04:33.320 --> 2:04:36.240 I'll tell you a funny story had Nas on here? Yeah, 2:04:36.360 --> 2:04:38.120 it was my brother and Nas. 2:04:38.360 --> 2:04:40.440 So I said to Nas, I said, because I feel 2:04:40.480 --> 2:04:42.000 like the same way I feel about you, that. 2:04:42.040 --> 2:04:43.720 You have a bad day in your life. 2:04:44.080 --> 2:04:46.520 I feel like Nas, no one would tell Nas no, 2:04:46.880 --> 2:04:48.920 Like I've been to the club with Nas and all 2:04:48.960 --> 2:04:49.760 these gangsters. 2:04:50.640 --> 2:04:54.520 Everybody knows and they see Naves to go. He's royalty. 2:04:56.080 --> 2:04:59.400 I love royalty. But I asked now, I said, Yo, 2:05:00.200 --> 2:05:01.520 anybody ever told you no? 2:05:02.360 --> 2:05:04.360 And now I was like maybe no. And then I 2:05:04.480 --> 2:05:06.640 was like, nah, nah, someone told you no. And then 2:05:06.720 --> 2:05:10.800 he said Prince, Okay, there you go. And then I said, 2:05:10.920 --> 2:05:11.960 why did Prince tell you? 2:05:12.120 --> 2:05:15.000 Know? You know what Prince told Nas? No? He said, 2:05:15.040 --> 2:05:17.000 do you own your masters? Yeah? 2:05:17.520 --> 2:05:19.520 And now I said, I told him I don't own 2:05:19.720 --> 2:05:22.680 my masters. He said, well, get back with me when 2:05:22.720 --> 2:05:23.680 you do own your masters. 2:05:23.760 --> 2:05:26.960 Yeah. So now just part to that too, where he 2:05:26.960 --> 2:05:28.520 said I don't want to put them through colleges on 2:05:29.840 --> 2:05:31.400 like put your kids through college. 2:05:31.960 --> 2:05:33.880 I don't want to put the ekids college. 2:05:33.960 --> 2:05:37.840 Yeah. I want to ask you this question again. Has 2:05:37.880 --> 2:05:40.520 it any ever been anybody in front of them on you. 2:05:41.280 --> 2:05:43.720 Front of them and like said no to me? Oh yeah, 2:05:43.960 --> 2:05:46.600 there's been a artists that passed on. Like I'll reach 2:05:46.680 --> 2:05:49.240 out and ask for somebody to feature on the record 2:05:49.720 --> 2:05:52.120 and they'll pass, and they'll pass for different reasons. Like 2:05:53.000 --> 2:05:56.440 sometimes I think with rap, especially if you want an 2:05:56.560 --> 2:05:58.800 MC to get on a record, they really have to 2:05:58.920 --> 2:06:02.160 hear that be and feel in spite of the right Yeah, 2:06:02.480 --> 2:06:06.160 hit themselves on it. And sometimes they don't, and and 2:06:06.440 --> 2:06:08.960 it's fine, give me a sample. I don't take it personally, 2:06:09.240 --> 2:06:13.960 give me a sample who's passed. I mean, Andre just 2:06:14.080 --> 2:06:18.800 passed on something three but like recently passed on everything, so. 2:06:20.840 --> 2:06:25.560 You could even play. They were like, the guy that 2:06:25.680 --> 2:06:27.560 I go through is a good friend of both. 2:06:27.400 --> 2:06:28.720 Of ours, and he was like, if you have to 2:06:28.720 --> 2:06:30.400 play flute, he might have done it, but. 2:06:31.680 --> 2:06:32.280 You should. 2:06:33.760 --> 2:06:36.280 Because it was a beautiful way. It was for the remix. 2:06:36.320 --> 2:06:39.200 It was for the remixes. It was the one remix 2:06:39.320 --> 2:06:39.920 on the remix. 2:06:40.360 --> 2:06:42.400 It was one of the remixes that we did it 2:06:42.560 --> 2:06:43.400 for the Get Lifted. 2:06:44.360 --> 2:06:47.040 Adrey rapping more bro and he was like, if you 2:06:47.080 --> 2:06:48.720 have them to play flute, he might say yes, but 2:06:48.840 --> 2:06:51.800 you know, Andre be on what he's on at that time, 2:06:52.120 --> 2:06:54.560 and if he ain't on, good shot. 2:06:55.040 --> 2:06:57.000 And saying no, because we should have we should have 2:06:57.040 --> 2:06:59.560 dot it. I don't be mad at it. 2:06:59.640 --> 2:07:01.720 I'm like, Okay, you're not in the right place to 2:07:01.800 --> 2:07:03.800 do it, you know, but you got a record with Andre, 2:07:04.200 --> 2:07:11.960 but also Limpsey battle you I did Andre's record, yes, 2:07:12.600 --> 2:07:14.320 but yes, we did green Light together. 2:07:14.400 --> 2:07:16.440 That was our you know single we did together. We 2:07:16.520 --> 2:07:17.040 did the video. 2:07:17.760 --> 2:07:19.400 He really helped come up with the concept for the 2:07:19.480 --> 2:07:20.720 video too, and uh. 2:07:21.160 --> 2:07:24.280 It was incredible working with him for that. And then uh, 2:07:24.600 --> 2:07:27.560 when Christy was co hosting lip Sync Battle with l 2:07:27.760 --> 2:07:31.640 l Uh, I came on and did hey, y'all do 2:07:33.440 --> 2:07:36.480 with a full wig and everything? It was something lip 2:07:36.600 --> 2:07:37.400 sync was a time. 2:07:38.240 --> 2:07:48.840 Yes, goddamn it, who's your favorite? Wrapper alls on Jay? Yeah, 2:07:49.560 --> 2:07:50.240 I say Jay? 2:07:50.440 --> 2:07:55.400 And then uh, I feel like Kendrick is almost there now. 2:07:55.640 --> 2:07:59.960 Like it's like I was talking to Charlemagne like probably 2:08:00.200 --> 2:08:01.040 two years ago. 2:08:01.560 --> 2:08:04.160 And we were still like, are we putting him in 2:08:04.160 --> 2:08:07.880 the top five already? Because he's younger than everybody else? Yep, 2:08:08.120 --> 2:08:08.280 he was. 2:08:08.600 --> 2:08:09.680 Well, we were discussing it. 2:08:09.880 --> 2:08:12.360 We were discussing it because he was younger than everybody 2:08:12.400 --> 2:08:14.200 else that normally you would put in there. 2:08:15.040 --> 2:08:17.160 And I was like, at this point, you got to 2:08:17.160 --> 2:08:18.360 put him there prolific. 2:08:18.640 --> 2:08:18.880 Yeah. 2:08:19.080 --> 2:08:21.200 Two years ago he was wait, yeah, and I was like, 2:08:21.440 --> 2:08:22.480 at this point, you already got. 2:08:22.480 --> 2:08:24.200 To put him there because and he never lets you 2:08:24.280 --> 2:08:26.760 down because all the records are dope, the singles are dope, 2:08:26.840 --> 2:08:27.920 and the videos are dope. 2:08:28.000 --> 2:08:31.880 Different. Yeah, the videos are crazy. His shows are crazy. Like, 2:08:32.160 --> 2:08:35.040 you got to put him right up there. Who's your 2:08:35.040 --> 2:08:36.120 favorite R and B singer? 2:08:37.920 --> 2:08:44.320 Stevie Steve, Steve seeing Stevie or no, Steven Steve, He's 2:08:44.360 --> 2:08:45.840 always He's always. 2:08:51.360 --> 2:08:52.520 Your favorite jazz. 2:08:53.280 --> 2:08:57.360 I'm not super into jazz. Truthfully, you look you look 2:08:57.400 --> 2:09:00.280 like a jazz player. I'm gonna be honest, and didn't 2:09:01.120 --> 2:09:04.000 look like on the flu. I'm not like deep into it. 2:09:04.360 --> 2:09:06.480 I'm more like, you know, I know some Miles Davis 2:09:06.560 --> 2:09:10.120 records from John Coltrane, some like you know, like the 2:09:10.240 --> 2:09:13.640 older singers like uh, you know Louis and Ella and uh, 2:09:14.040 --> 2:09:15.840 I listen to some of that, but I'm not like 2:09:16.040 --> 2:09:17.760 deeply into jazz zz. 2:09:18.560 --> 2:09:18.840 Damn. 2:09:19.800 --> 2:09:25.800 Who's your favorite jazz artists? Louis Armstrong, Yes, right, you 2:09:25.880 --> 2:09:26.680 know the man? 2:09:27.120 --> 2:09:29.600 And I like to singing boy. I like to singing well. 2:09:31.160 --> 2:09:33.920 I like the ratty singing boys too, like he was dope. 2:09:34.080 --> 2:09:45.200 Who's your favorite reggae artist Boo Nice Month, whom. 2:09:43.480 --> 2:09:45.120 I've done a couple of records of Boo I love, 2:09:45.880 --> 2:09:46.440 I said. 2:09:46.240 --> 2:09:50.280 Reggae dance? Who's your favorite dance hall? Okay, so bo 2:09:50.680 --> 2:09:53.320 dance hall? Yes, all right, we're being more specific. Yes, 2:09:53.840 --> 2:10:00.560 just go back to Rake. Reggae Bob Marley, you made 2:10:00.560 --> 2:10:04.280 records with I have a couple of records of the 2:10:04.320 --> 2:10:06.960 first one we did together was on my Evolver albums 2:10:07.000 --> 2:10:08.760 called Can't Be My Lover and. 2:10:10.440 --> 2:10:13.160 Yeah, and then I've been on a couple of his projects. 2:10:14.800 --> 2:10:20.440 He's the weast Papa Cheese. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2:10:22.480 --> 2:10:26.040 Reggae doesn't take or world Jamaican Today. 2:10:26.600 --> 2:10:31.640 M hm. Who's your favorite reggae throne artists? Regged throne? 2:10:32.520 --> 2:10:37.800 Have you dabbled in that? No? Do we count Bad Bunny? 2:10:37.880 --> 2:10:40.200 Is he regu? I think so. I think I'm not 2:10:40.400 --> 2:10:43.000 very well versed, so I'm not. I mean, yeah, you 2:10:43.040 --> 2:10:47.600 don't count what's your favorite reg I love Bad Bunny, 2:10:47.840 --> 2:10:51.120 but I don't know very well honest And he got conscious. Yeah, 2:10:51.200 --> 2:10:57.120 he got like he stands up for Puerto Rico because listen, 2:10:57.160 --> 2:10:58.960 I ain't gonna lie to you. He said, it might 2:10:59.000 --> 2:11:00.640 be a porter going up for the weekends. 2:11:02.120 --> 2:11:05.000 He stands up for Puerto Rico. Like, he's very political 2:11:06.120 --> 2:11:08.320 and his music is crazy damn. 2:11:08.440 --> 2:11:11.080 So you will collab with bad Bunny? Absolutely love to 2:11:12.440 --> 2:11:16.200 Would that be your go to feature? Uh life? I 2:11:16.280 --> 2:11:19.480 had a record artist? Yeah, I mean Latin America. And 2:11:19.680 --> 2:11:22.680 for the time, I've worked with like singers in Latin America. 2:11:22.800 --> 2:11:26.280 So I worked with like one Is and uh Sebastian 2:11:27.520 --> 2:11:31.200 and uh like you got the Noel from. 2:11:33.360 --> 2:11:39.120 Uh who else? I haven't done a record with would 2:11:41.280 --> 2:11:43.200 and uh Yeah, I've worked with a few Latin. 2:11:43.080 --> 2:11:46.080 Artists over the years, but singers, I have really done 2:11:46.080 --> 2:11:47.560 your record good? 2:11:48.120 --> 2:11:53.000 Now his his is where we gotta go? Who's your 2:11:53.080 --> 2:12:01.320 favorite dancehall artists? We kind we said, oka reggae artists. 2:12:01.360 --> 2:12:03.600 I'm saying he's going to happen. He's going through, he said, 2:12:05.200 --> 2:12:12.200 sucking up. Who's your favorite car? Who's your favorite DJ? 2:12:12.360 --> 2:12:18.280 How about that DJ? If you're getting married, Maldi's who? 2:12:18.560 --> 2:12:22.120 Well, you know, we played my last big party jig Capri. 2:12:23.600 --> 2:12:27.000 I went back, absolutely, I went back, you know, and he. 2:12:27.480 --> 2:12:31.040 It was amazing, honestly, and biz MARKI played our wedding. 2:12:31.520 --> 2:12:36.000 Well that was so vapis he played a vabis No 2:12:36.080 --> 2:12:39.200 he DJ bro DJ. Sure, he did a couple of it. 2:12:39.360 --> 2:12:41.480 He usually with DJ song and performing a little bit 2:12:41.520 --> 2:12:42.200 a couple, just. 2:12:42.200 --> 2:12:45.520 A couple, but mainly he's just playing records and uh and. 2:12:45.840 --> 2:12:48.320 Just the party was going the whole night. So that 2:12:48.480 --> 2:12:49.920 was twenty thirteen and. 2:12:49.960 --> 2:12:53.280 Then we and then we did our tenth anniversary in 2:12:53.320 --> 2:12:57.960 twenty twenty three and Bis Markey was no longer with us, 2:12:58.040 --> 2:13:01.600 but k Capri came and kickza want that party ever? 2:13:01.720 --> 2:13:01.880 Do it? 2:13:02.520 --> 2:13:04.000 Crazy? You anymore? 2:13:04.040 --> 2:13:07.000 Jonnres And I'll tell you why I wanted him, because 2:13:07.040 --> 2:13:09.280 I had been talking about this college party I went 2:13:09.320 --> 2:13:10.720 to when I was in school. This is in like 2:13:10.840 --> 2:13:13.440 ninety six, and I was like, I've never seen a 2:13:13.520 --> 2:13:16.960 party like so turned for so long, Like he just 2:13:17.040 --> 2:13:20.520 had the party on eleven the whole night and it was. 2:13:20.600 --> 2:13:23.240 Ca Capri and I was like my brother. I was like, 2:13:23.360 --> 2:13:27.280 let's get him back. And so that was I sat 2:13:27.360 --> 2:13:32.200 to him, no more, Genres, no, no, who's your favorite whistler? 2:13:34.160 --> 2:13:36.320 We're gonna keep it. Oh, this's writing. 2:13:38.160 --> 2:13:43.280 Because you have one of the best beautiful family stories, right, 2:13:44.760 --> 2:13:46.960 But you know it started out it's. 2:13:46.920 --> 2:13:49.640 Like real fighting there was there was fighting in there. 2:13:49.720 --> 2:13:55.600 Where is this going out? Because you picked out a model. 2:13:57.360 --> 2:14:00.680 It was like, I like her, had to come to 2:14:00.760 --> 2:14:03.400 the yea. So she she was in the video with me. 2:14:03.560 --> 2:14:07.440 And then that's how we met. Yeah, and the is history. 2:14:07.480 --> 2:14:11.880 See a lot of people listen, a lot of people 2:14:11.920 --> 2:14:15.640 want to build up Oh I don't you ask. It 2:14:15.760 --> 2:14:18.720 started out with the b what you said, Yeah, I'm 2:14:18.760 --> 2:14:24.520 going to build up mom his wife. First day they 2:14:24.960 --> 2:14:26.800 kicked it off, and they kicked off. 2:14:26.880 --> 2:14:30.240 He said, if you hear me, yeah right, And now 2:14:30.360 --> 2:14:34.760 y'all eighteen years we met eighteen years ago ago. 2:14:37.160 --> 2:14:40.800 We got four kids. Four kids, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2:14:42.760 --> 2:14:45.280 Four kids, the oldest ones eight and the youngest ones 2:14:45.520 --> 2:14:46.960 one and a half. Wow. 2:14:48.200 --> 2:14:50.600 So director came to you and showed you a picture. 2:14:50.720 --> 2:14:53.840 Yeah, you said I'm in I was all right, what 2:14:54.440 --> 2:14:57.880 And then we just had good chemistry and had a 2:14:57.960 --> 2:15:01.280 show later that night, and then we hung out after 2:15:01.360 --> 2:15:02.840 that and we've been hanging out ever since. 2:15:03.960 --> 2:15:05.480 God damn understatement. 2:15:06.240 --> 2:15:18.080 And you became a great father listen some years later. Yo, man, 2:15:18.160 --> 2:15:19.760 I just want to be honest with you. 2:15:19.920 --> 2:15:20.080 Man. 2:15:20.440 --> 2:15:23.800 I really really respect your legacy. I really respect what 2:15:23.920 --> 2:15:26.800 you're doing. I really respect how you represent for black people. 2:15:26.960 --> 2:15:30.920 Every time there's a there's a there's a moment. I 2:15:31.080 --> 2:15:33.040 know that John Legend is going to be there. I 2:15:33.120 --> 2:15:35.440 know that you you'll be there in the forest fires. 2:15:35.480 --> 2:15:37.480 I know that you'll be there during COVID. I know 2:15:37.560 --> 2:15:38.240 that you'll be there. 2:15:38.840 --> 2:15:41.200 And that ship is just like a beautiful thing to me. 2:15:41.520 --> 2:15:41.800 Thank you. 2:15:41.960 --> 2:15:45.680 You know what I'm saying, Like, because I want to watch, 2:15:45.960 --> 2:15:49.280 but I don't maybe not be there, like, but I 2:15:49.400 --> 2:15:50.920 want to watch still, like I want to be like, 2:15:51.040 --> 2:15:53.680 oh ship, that ship is nice and you. 2:15:53.800 --> 2:16:01.520 Be holding it down don Lemon style. Okay, new one. Okay, 2:16:07.640 --> 2:16:15.200 So what are we talking about? I don't know. I'm 2:16:15.200 --> 2:16:20.680 a reporter now, So so what hold on? Going back 2:16:20.720 --> 2:16:21.280 to the fires? 2:16:21.400 --> 2:16:23.080 Is there anything before you get out of here that 2:16:23.560 --> 2:16:27.240 any true things that people could donate to that are 2:16:27.320 --> 2:16:28.600 actually impacting and helping. 2:16:28.920 --> 2:16:31.840 Well, there's a bunch of charities that are doing great work. 2:16:32.200 --> 2:16:34.320 We always work with Baby the Baby a lot, and 2:16:34.520 --> 2:16:37.880 because they help parents that have kids and need supplies 2:16:37.920 --> 2:16:39.800 for their kids. A lot of people got displaced to 2:16:39.879 --> 2:16:42.760 have kids, so Baby to Baby is great. Of course 2:16:42.800 --> 2:16:46.680 the Red Cross is helping. Yeah, those are a couple 2:16:46.800 --> 2:16:49.840 that we've donated to and helped out. But I would say, 2:16:49.879 --> 2:16:52.040 baby the Baby, that one's close to our heart and 2:16:52.080 --> 2:16:54.160 we've raised money for them a lot over the years. 2:16:54.280 --> 2:16:56.680 Any any artists that you know that personally have been 2:16:56.720 --> 2:17:01.480 impacted are artists you don't like in the hip hop world. 2:17:01.560 --> 2:17:03.959 Mad Lib he lost Yes, I saw. 2:17:03.959 --> 2:17:09.879 That concerts and Ico she lost her place. And then. 2:17:11.840 --> 2:17:13.760 The guys we sang with on the opening of the 2:17:13.800 --> 2:17:16.760 Grammys that was a band, uh, a rock band, indie 2:17:16.800 --> 2:17:20.920 band called DAWs and they grew up in that area 2:17:20.959 --> 2:17:24.720 in Altadena and they lost everything. Their parents lost their 2:17:24.720 --> 2:17:28.640 home in the studio and the instruments, everything, So a 2:17:28.720 --> 2:17:31.840 lot of people lost a lot. It's crazy because when 2:17:31.840 --> 2:17:34.120 you go to La unless you're in those areas, you 2:17:34.160 --> 2:17:37.600 don't even see it because everything else looks completely normal. 2:17:38.280 --> 2:17:39.680 But when you go to those areas, they look like 2:17:40.959 --> 2:17:44.080 a war zone. They're like, I don't, we don't see that. 2:17:44.240 --> 2:17:46.520 Yeah, it's like a war zone in those specific areas, 2:17:46.560 --> 2:17:47.800 and then everywhere else looks normal. 2:17:48.040 --> 2:17:52.160 It's crazy though, it's surreal. Yeah. Well so, I mean, 2:17:53.000 --> 2:17:56.680 all right, this this is one meme percent all me. 2:17:58.720 --> 2:17:59.960 That's gonna be impactful. 2:18:00.400 --> 2:18:05.080 Of course, because you were really Trump's nemesis, right, let's 2:18:05.080 --> 2:18:09.959 suppost didn't work this Trump says, I want to meet 2:18:10.000 --> 2:18:17.040 with John in the middle of Central Park. Why because 2:18:17.080 --> 2:18:17.920 let me be in New York. 2:18:19.160 --> 2:18:19.879 Why you hating? 2:18:21.640 --> 2:18:24.080 Honestly, I would meet with him with no cameras and 2:18:24.280 --> 2:18:27.080 no like this is like I would. I would meet 2:18:27.320 --> 2:18:29.480 just like on some could I influence him because I 2:18:29.520 --> 2:18:33.280 feel like he's very easy, Like I think people people 2:18:33.360 --> 2:18:34.480 getting his ear, I feel like. 2:18:34.840 --> 2:18:37.800 They can convince him of things, and so I. 2:18:37.800 --> 2:18:41.720 Would deal with no cameras and just try to use 2:18:41.760 --> 2:18:42.760 whatever influence I had. 2:18:42.840 --> 2:18:45.440 But I doubt it would be useful, but it would 2:18:45.440 --> 2:18:47.640 be worth a shot. Why not? But let me ask you, 2:18:47.680 --> 2:18:51.400 I'm gonna keep it real. Are you gonna have jokes? 2:18:53.800 --> 2:18:57.640 You gotta have jokes, you gotta call him arms Asian arm. 2:18:57.760 --> 2:18:59.920 You're gonna do something to bring yourself up. 2:19:00.240 --> 2:19:02.000 I'd be like, I'm not boring as singer with the 2:19:02.040 --> 2:19:02.680 Filthy Mountain. 2:19:05.400 --> 2:19:08.880 I don't know, but honestly, I believe like anybody can 2:19:08.920 --> 2:19:11.200 be talked to, and you don't need to do it 2:19:11.360 --> 2:19:13.680 for like a photo op. 2:19:13.959 --> 2:19:17.640 Do it like actually trying to accomplish something, and he knows. 2:19:17.520 --> 2:19:19.600 And everybody should be talked to, like, if he's in 2:19:19.800 --> 2:19:22.840 a position, especially if they're in power, you should talk 2:19:22.879 --> 2:19:23.160 to them. 2:19:24.000 --> 2:19:27.560 But you would meet it. I mean, it's not on 2:19:27.640 --> 2:19:33.520 the table, But yes, I think it's plausible. I think so. Yeah. 2:19:35.000 --> 2:19:37.760 I think I just think he needs someone in his 2:19:37.879 --> 2:19:41.200 ear telling him something other than what Elon and all 2:19:41.240 --> 2:19:42.280 these other guys are telling him. 2:19:42.360 --> 2:19:43.720 So if that needs to be. 2:19:43.800 --> 2:19:47.800 Me, fine, Okay, So let's let's talk about for a second. 2:19:49.120 --> 2:19:51.480 Why did you change your name from John Stevens to 2:19:51.640 --> 2:19:53.000 John So the. 2:19:53.080 --> 2:19:55.200 First person to call me John Legend was a guy 2:19:55.320 --> 2:19:58.640 named Jay Ivy, and he just started calling me the Legend. 2:19:58.720 --> 2:20:01.160 Jay Ivy's a spoken word ARTI. If you listen back 2:20:01.240 --> 2:20:04.959 to Never Let Me Down on the College Dropout, he's 2:20:05.120 --> 2:20:05.440 doing the. 2:20:05.440 --> 2:20:08.720 Spoken word piece on it. He's from Chicago, and I 2:20:08.840 --> 2:20:10.920 met him when we were working on the College Dropout 2:20:10.959 --> 2:20:13.200 album and he just heard everything I was doing in 2:20:13.280 --> 2:20:13.640 the studio. 2:20:13.680 --> 2:20:14.280 I was singing on. 2:20:14.320 --> 2:20:16.760 Everything, playing on everything, and you just started calling me 2:20:16.840 --> 2:20:20.640 the legend. And our whole crew just started calling me 2:20:20.720 --> 2:20:21.560 John Legend. 2:20:21.440 --> 2:20:25.039 Not long after that, and I had to decide whether 2:20:25.120 --> 2:20:27.320 or not I would actually use it as a stage 2:20:27.400 --> 2:20:31.320 name or just you know, just a nickname among our friends, and. 2:20:31.400 --> 2:20:33.640 I decided I will use it. I was like, fuck it. 2:20:33.760 --> 2:20:38.600 You know, this is like, this is announcing my presence. 2:20:38.640 --> 2:20:40.520 I'm gonna say I'm John Legend. 2:20:41.000 --> 2:20:44.960 And what was ever a thought of the of it 2:20:45.080 --> 2:20:48.400 sounding like John Lennon. It started to come up later. 2:20:48.879 --> 2:20:49.400 It's funny. 2:20:49.600 --> 2:20:51.520 Some people was like, hey, it's John Lennon, which is 2:20:51.600 --> 2:20:54.040 kind of dope. Yeah, it's fine. And then some of 2:20:54.240 --> 2:20:57.840 John Lennon's fans call him John Legend. I learned that later. Yeah, 2:20:58.320 --> 2:21:00.200 but I didn't know that before. But I had to 2:21:00.320 --> 2:21:04.920 check on their trademark and trademark that could infringe. 2:21:05.200 --> 2:21:06.000 I had to check on it. 2:21:06.160 --> 2:21:10.600 So we found out that once I got signed a 2:21:10.720 --> 2:21:13.000 mass Sony and all the lawyers, you know they're about 2:21:13.040 --> 2:21:15.160 to get my album ready and make sure the clearances 2:21:15.160 --> 2:21:17.880 are right, they're like, we need to make sure we 2:21:18.000 --> 2:21:22.800 trademark John Legend as your stage name. So they go 2:21:22.920 --> 2:21:26.680 out and look for other John Legends. And it wasn't 2:21:26.720 --> 2:21:30.760 an issue with the John Lennon, uh, you know, leg Estate. 2:21:31.320 --> 2:21:35.039 But there's this porn producer named Johnny Legend. 2:21:36.959 --> 2:21:44.400 Legends. So there's a porn producer, but he also made music. 2:21:44.560 --> 2:21:49.879 So because he made music. Yeah, we had to clear 2:21:49.959 --> 2:21:52.520 it with him for me to use the name. And 2:21:52.840 --> 2:21:56.680 so we found him and my manager was like trying 2:21:56.680 --> 2:21:57.959 to be chill about it. He didn't want to make 2:21:58.000 --> 2:22:01.000 it seem like this big new artist on this Yeah. 2:22:01.200 --> 2:22:03.199 He wanted to seem like we were just some poor 2:22:03.520 --> 2:22:06.400 kid from Ohio. And so he was like, yeah, I 2:22:06.600 --> 2:22:09.200 have this artist and he goes by John Legend, and 2:22:09.360 --> 2:22:11.840 we don't want any trouble, just want to negotiate a 2:22:11.959 --> 2:22:15.199 mutually non exclusive deal with the guy owned the name Legend. 2:22:15.560 --> 2:22:19.520 He was Johnny Legend, Johnny and he was a musician. 2:22:19.680 --> 2:22:23.160 So if he had a record at a store. 2:22:23.360 --> 2:22:27.280 And I had one at the store, he could be like, yo, confusing, Yeah, 2:22:27.320 --> 2:22:30.880 there could be a suit. Yeah, that's confusing. So we 2:22:31.040 --> 2:22:33.000 had to find him and he agreed. 2:22:34.600 --> 2:22:38.720 We gave him I think ten thousand dollars, which I 2:22:38.760 --> 2:22:40.560 think was a very affordable bargain. 2:22:42.200 --> 2:22:44.200 Yeah for him, it's probably good. Yeah, and he was 2:22:44.360 --> 2:22:47.440 like yeah, so he signed the deal. 2:22:47.520 --> 2:22:50.680 He was Johnny Legend, I'm John Legend, and he went 2:22:50.800 --> 2:22:53.560 sue me and I wouldn't sue him. So you kind 2:22:53.600 --> 2:22:59.280 of popping in the porn world too, Yeah, you know 2:22:59.440 --> 2:23:01.480 you made it. You know you made it when fake 2:23:01.600 --> 2:23:05.600 dudes are you, you know, use your name. So my 2:23:05.760 --> 2:23:08.440 friend sent me. I don't know how you found it. 2:23:10.200 --> 2:23:12.160 You found this as a poor star that goes. 2:23:12.080 --> 2:23:14.800 By John the Legend and it's like a light stined 2:23:14.879 --> 2:23:20.160 dude with a beard like trying to look like, yes, 2:23:20.959 --> 2:23:21.840 you know you made it when you. 2:23:21.879 --> 2:23:27.359 Got a poor knockoff star and he's cocking and saying ordinary. 2:23:40.080 --> 2:23:44.040 John Lezard, Man, I really appreciate you man for coming 2:23:44.160 --> 2:23:46.000 out and just hanging with us. 2:23:46.160 --> 2:23:48.959 Yeah, man, because this is what I've been looking forward 2:23:49.000 --> 2:23:53.520 to it. Yeah, yeah, we were scared. Well you know 2:23:53.640 --> 2:23:54.160 what happened. 2:23:54.360 --> 2:23:56.320 You know last time my friend was on the show 2:23:56.560 --> 2:23:59.840 and it wasn't great, But I figured I should come 2:23:59.879 --> 2:24:00.800 on at some point. 2:24:01.280 --> 2:24:07.680 Yes, and uh, either have our own conversations. This is 2:24:07.680 --> 2:24:08.640 the first, not the last. 2:24:09.080 --> 2:24:12.320 Yeah, if you want to promote pink socks, I'm in 2:24:12.560 --> 2:24:13.240 pink socks. 2:24:13.760 --> 2:24:15.600 We got the pink rose though from l v E. 2:24:16.040 --> 2:24:21.200 Yeah yeah, l l v E because just Love Love 2:24:21.240 --> 2:24:25.039 Love Love LB stands for Legend Vineyard Exclusive. 2:24:25.160 --> 2:24:28.240 There it is there, it is say it again. Legend 2:24:28.440 --> 2:24:32.879 Vineyard Exclusive, Legend Vineyard l v SO short for love too. 2:24:33.360 --> 2:24:36.280 That's right, that's what Noy is calling. I love love. Yeah, 2:24:36.920 --> 2:24:40.240 I love love you, love love. I love love you, 2:24:40.320 --> 2:24:43.080 love love you. I love being married. I love love. 2:24:43.760 --> 2:24:47.080 I'm happily married, happily happy to be a dad. Love 2:24:47.160 --> 2:24:50.960 it all. It's good. Why why don't people praise that? 2:24:51.480 --> 2:24:55.959 Like from friend Swiss called me earlier great dad. Loves 2:24:56.040 --> 2:24:58.160 being great dad, and I love yeah. 2:24:58.320 --> 2:25:02.720 At lasta keys, Wow, we don't like focused on bigging 2:25:03.360 --> 2:25:05.640 that part of hip hop. 2:25:06.400 --> 2:25:08.840 I love it. You know, we don't. I think we're 2:25:08.879 --> 2:25:12.039 starting to, don't know. I think we're maturing more. Let 2:25:12.080 --> 2:25:12.680 me tell you something. 2:25:13.200 --> 2:25:17.800 Swiss and at Leasta being at the Grammys was great, right, 2:25:17.959 --> 2:25:20.760 But if Swiss would have been with another bitch at 2:25:20.800 --> 2:25:25.280 the Grammys, thatsh it would have been top line whatever. 2:25:25.640 --> 2:25:27.000 But him's being a lawyer. 2:25:27.280 --> 2:25:30.880 But if it's God, yeah, if you're married consistently, why 2:25:30.959 --> 2:25:31.840 would that be anything. 2:25:31.920 --> 2:25:35.879 It's not news, it's not news. But I think we celebrate. 2:25:36.640 --> 2:25:38.440 You know, we said we should, we said, we said, 2:25:38.480 --> 2:25:41.520 we said, picked that up. Like the thing about it, like, 2:25:41.760 --> 2:25:46.200 I'm looking at Jay and his wife Beyonce. Yeah, I 2:25:46.320 --> 2:25:48.520 mean that's my friend, so I'm. 2:25:48.400 --> 2:25:49.080 Looking at him. 2:25:49.560 --> 2:25:52.800 But I'm saying, why are we not bigging that up more? 2:25:53.560 --> 2:25:56.600 I think they're celebrated as a couple. Yeah, I'm not 2:25:56.800 --> 2:25:58.800 looking at you and your wife. Now, why do we 2:25:58.920 --> 2:25:59.960 not bigging it up more? 2:26:00.080 --> 2:26:06.440 I think they're celebrated. I feel like not in pop culture. Well, 2:26:06.640 --> 2:26:09.080 the thing is, people like news and they like controversy. 2:26:09.200 --> 2:26:12.119 So people were excited when they saw Jay and Solange 2:26:12.160 --> 2:26:14.880 and the Elevator because it was controversy. 2:26:14.320 --> 2:26:17.000 You know what I'm saying too, And so I feel like, 2:26:18.400 --> 2:26:19.119 so I really. 2:26:19.000 --> 2:26:22.480 Think like it's not exciting when it's just bliss and 2:26:22.560 --> 2:26:23.240 it's love. 2:26:23.520 --> 2:26:26.280 And so people get more excited for the controversy side. 2:26:26.400 --> 2:26:28.960 And the flip is it shouldn't be extraordinary for a 2:26:29.000 --> 2:26:30.240 couple to be together a long time. 2:26:30.640 --> 2:26:32.200 That should not be an extraordinary thing. 2:26:32.320 --> 2:26:35.480 And the thing is with artists, especially with hip hop, 2:26:35.640 --> 2:26:38.000 like a lot of our biggest stars currently, like in 2:26:38.080 --> 2:26:40.760 the moment, are young, and they're not in that phase 2:26:40.800 --> 2:26:43.160 of life, right, They're not like they're in the datings. Yeah, 2:26:43.160 --> 2:26:45.320 they're they're in a bachelor phase of their life. 2:26:45.520 --> 2:26:45.880 Bachelor. 2:26:47.080 --> 2:26:47.280 Yeah. 2:26:47.959 --> 2:26:50.600 But then but then by by the time their legend 2:26:50.640 --> 2:26:53.720 status like Jay, then they should and have kids. 2:26:53.800 --> 2:27:00.280 Yeah, Yeah, but this because in our community, the just 2:27:00.480 --> 2:27:03.480 promoted so much of you not having a fault. Now 2:27:03.560 --> 2:27:07.640 you've got John Legend with his beautiful wife, you got 2:27:07.760 --> 2:27:10.560 Jay with his beautiful wife, you got Swiss Beats with 2:27:10.640 --> 2:27:14.760 his beautiful Why are we not saying yo, black man, 2:27:15.240 --> 2:27:17.680 black all, all Latino man. 2:27:17.840 --> 2:27:22.119 Whatever. Let's let's just let's focus on that part. Yeah, 2:27:22.560 --> 2:27:23.160 you know what's on that. 2:27:23.440 --> 2:27:25.440 You know, one of the myths about us is that 2:27:25.600 --> 2:27:28.760 we aren't as present as fathers. We're actually more present 2:27:28.879 --> 2:27:34.240 as fathers. The statistics statistics are that we are Actually 2:27:34.680 --> 2:27:38.200 we spend more time with our kids than white fathers do. 2:27:39.160 --> 2:27:47.760 We're more present, and so and so, like that's never told. 2:27:47.840 --> 2:27:50.160 That story is really never told. There is not told enough. 2:27:50.400 --> 2:27:54.600 But that's right. Like Black fatherhood is wonderful and we 2:27:54.760 --> 2:27:56.400 are really good fathers. 2:27:56.120 --> 2:27:58.360 And we know that means to be present for our kids. 2:27:58.760 --> 2:28:01.200 And even if you're not married read to the mother 2:28:01.280 --> 2:28:03.199 of your child, you can still be a great father. 2:28:03.720 --> 2:28:06.800 And and so I see that example all the time. 2:28:06.920 --> 2:28:08.240 Like I have people, I have. 2:28:10.160 --> 2:28:12.320 Friends in my life who are really great fathers that 2:28:12.400 --> 2:28:15.240 may not be married to the mother the child, but 2:28:15.320 --> 2:28:18.640 they still make sure they're there for everything. Yeah, Like, 2:28:18.800 --> 2:28:21.320 and I was raised around great fathers. My dad's a 2:28:21.360 --> 2:28:23.240 great one. He was a single dad for us for 2:28:23.280 --> 2:28:26.400 a while. My uncles all of them like really great fathers. 2:28:26.400 --> 2:28:28.920 So I'm just I'm like, that's my example. It's like 2:28:29.040 --> 2:28:32.480 I've seen great fatherhood and it's not everybody's example. But 2:28:32.640 --> 2:28:35.720 the bottom line is, even when we're not married, black 2:28:35.800 --> 2:28:38.720 fathers are very present in general, and we. 2:28:38.800 --> 2:28:43.800 Got to celebrate it. Yeah, take a shot for the 2:28:44.800 --> 2:28:45.480 black fathers. 2:28:45.520 --> 2:28:47.959 Here. We got black father. Yes, he has a. 2:28:52.800 --> 2:28:56.680 Let's take a shot to fatherhood, fathershood. 2:28:58.520 --> 2:29:02.840 I might seem like a priest though, isn't it, John Legend? 2:29:02.879 --> 2:29:06.560 What is? What do you see yourself trying to accomplish? 2:29:06.640 --> 2:29:06.760 Now? 2:29:06.800 --> 2:29:08.840 With all the things you've accomplished. 2:29:08.400 --> 2:29:10.520 Well, there's a couple of things I'm doing that are new. 2:29:10.760 --> 2:29:12.520 I told you before I'm writing for Broadway. 2:29:12.600 --> 2:29:15.400 That's the first time I've ever done that, and neither 2:29:15.400 --> 2:29:17.320 of the shows out even though you got the Tony already, 2:29:17.640 --> 2:29:20.440 I was producing, but I didn't write. I'm writing music 2:29:20.520 --> 2:29:24.400 for musical two musicals, so that these two shows are 2:29:24.440 --> 2:29:27.560 the first time I've ever done that. And then then 2:29:27.560 --> 2:29:29.600 I'm always just trying to tap myself as an artist, 2:29:29.720 --> 2:29:31.960 like next album needs to be better than the last album, 2:29:32.160 --> 2:29:34.000 Like every time, that's my goal. 2:29:34.520 --> 2:29:36.480 So that'll be my goal with this next album. 2:29:36.560 --> 2:29:40.480 What about acting, it's not a goal honestly if it 2:29:40.720 --> 2:29:43.760 works out and it's the right thing at the right time. 2:29:44.240 --> 2:29:51.440 But honestly, like you're kind of like starting from the 2:29:51.560 --> 2:29:56.600 bottom as an actor because you're like, because I get what, 2:29:56.720 --> 2:29:59.040 I get to go sing somewhere and I sing for 2:29:59.120 --> 2:30:00.400 an hour, you know, Oh, do. 2:30:00.440 --> 2:30:01.600 You feel like it's starting over? 2:30:01.840 --> 2:30:04.440 Yeah, I'm not going to get that for being in 2:30:04.520 --> 2:30:07.200 a film and it's going to take six weeks of 2:30:07.280 --> 2:30:07.680 my time. 2:30:08.440 --> 2:30:11.480 It does, and it's like is that worth it? Most 2:30:11.520 --> 2:30:12.080 of the time it's not. 2:30:13.040 --> 2:30:16.400 I feel like Common is the positive blueprint, Yeah, because. 2:30:16.200 --> 2:30:19.040 If you build long enough, then it can be worth it. 2:30:19.160 --> 2:30:20.680 But you got to be able to put that time 2:30:20.720 --> 2:30:23.320 in because Common has been building that acting career for 2:30:23.400 --> 2:30:25.240 a long time. You can't just PLoP in and be 2:30:25.400 --> 2:30:28.360 like I want, you know, ten million to show up 2:30:28.400 --> 2:30:30.240 for this film, right Like, you just can't do it. 2:30:30.760 --> 2:30:32.320 And so it's like, do I want to put in 2:30:32.360 --> 2:30:34.879 all that time to build up my price in there 2:30:34.920 --> 2:30:37.560 when I've already built up my price as a singer. 2:30:38.120 --> 2:30:41.680 I rather just can't make money. Yeah, and I love making. 2:30:41.600 --> 2:30:44.440 Music, right, But okay, so I know we joked about 2:30:44.480 --> 2:30:45.320 the political realm. 2:30:45.879 --> 2:30:49.600 Do you really ever see yourself? I don't, and people 2:30:49.760 --> 2:30:50.520 do advocate. 2:30:51.200 --> 2:30:53.680 Yeah, absolutely, and I will continue to And people ask 2:30:53.720 --> 2:30:54.840 me all the time if I ever want to run 2:30:54.879 --> 2:30:55.480 for office, and I. 2:30:55.879 --> 2:30:58.480 Still don't believe I ever will, and I don't believe i'll. 2:30:58.320 --> 2:31:00.280 Ever want to. If I change my mind, and then 2:31:00.320 --> 2:31:02.119 I'll change my mind, but I don't. I don't think 2:31:02.160 --> 2:31:02.480 I will. 2:31:04.879 --> 2:31:07.280 I don't think he will either. Nor are you gonna run, 2:31:07.320 --> 2:31:12.080 profess No, I'm running for offers you. I'm gonna be 2:31:12.120 --> 2:31:15.240 honest with you. If you run for office, I'll be 2:31:15.400 --> 2:31:16.879 like you know, the guys with the. 2:31:16.920 --> 2:31:30.119 Helmets security January sixth, niggah, my Hitchman, BECAUSEA be honest. 2:31:32.120 --> 2:31:32.480 I don't be. 2:31:33.560 --> 2:31:39.600 No, you will mind me of a rock in the 2:31:39.720 --> 2:31:45.080 most beautifulest way it is. And I spoke to Killer Mike. 2:31:45.320 --> 2:31:48.600 Yeah. I love killing Mike, right, I love Mike. Kill 2:31:48.640 --> 2:31:51.760 him Mike man. But I feel like Killer Mike should 2:31:51.800 --> 2:31:55.320 be mayor of Atlanta. He could do it. I feel 2:31:55.360 --> 2:31:58.160 like he might run. I feel like he should do it. 2:31:58.360 --> 2:32:03.000 I feel like he should do it unapologetically. I feel 2:32:03.040 --> 2:32:05.760 like he shoul to do it eating peanuts like me. 2:32:07.360 --> 2:32:09.480 What up in his real self? Yeah? 2:32:09.680 --> 2:32:12.440 Yeah, well he cares a lot about lances and put 2:32:12.440 --> 2:32:13.480 it that way. I don't know if he every wants 2:32:13.520 --> 2:32:16.039 to run for office, but he's I feel like he's 2:32:16.120 --> 2:32:20.000 great at knowing what the people want in his city, 2:32:20.120 --> 2:32:22.920 and he loves his city. He advocates for his city, 2:32:22.959 --> 2:32:23.560 advocates for. 2:32:25.200 --> 2:32:28.280 Our community, like having our own businesses and own property 2:32:28.320 --> 2:32:31.080 or on wealth. And uh, he's a great man. 2:32:32.000 --> 2:32:35.520 But you you never thought about running for president when 2:32:35.520 --> 2:32:37.760 I was a kid. I didn't since I've been in 2:32:37.840 --> 2:32:40.240 an adult I love my life. 2:32:40.280 --> 2:32:42.760 I love what I get to do now, and I 2:32:42.800 --> 2:32:45.800 don't think I would enjoy being president. Wow, I just 2:32:45.879 --> 2:32:48.800 don't think I would. You know what, Actually, we got 2:32:48.879 --> 2:32:50.879 to shut out his papa, Keith is running for office, 2:32:50.920 --> 2:32:56.199 right commissioner shout out to from out here. Yeah, he's 2:32:56.240 --> 2:32:59.360 a radio personality. He's been influential out here in the 2:32:59.440 --> 2:33:00.920 community and now he's. 2:33:00.920 --> 2:33:03.360 I respect anybody that puts himself out there. My friend 2:33:03.520 --> 2:33:06.280 Hill Harper, he ran for you don't want to he 2:33:06.360 --> 2:33:08.039 ran for Senate in Michigan. 2:33:08.320 --> 2:33:10.400 I was like, man, it's just stressful. He didn't win 2:33:10.520 --> 2:33:13.320 the primary, and it's like you put yourself out there, 2:33:13.480 --> 2:33:16.320 they come at you. Yeah, and it's like into those I'm. 2:33:16.240 --> 2:33:18.960 Like, I already put myself out there enough and I 2:33:19.080 --> 2:33:20.080 get enough ship for it. 2:33:20.160 --> 2:33:22.080 And I'm like, I don't want to like actually run, 2:33:22.520 --> 2:33:25.520 but imagine you and dlugy. 2:33:27.240 --> 2:33:35.040 Dl DL's instagram be going. You know you wouldn't one? 2:33:37.280 --> 2:33:39.960 Why give up? Give up on this lot of questions. 2:33:40.760 --> 2:33:43.720 I'm just asking because to me, I will one job. 2:33:43.959 --> 2:33:47.040 I want to go pisical ends to be a fucking 2:33:47.120 --> 2:33:49.920 president like me. This is me. I guess the personal 2:33:49.959 --> 2:33:52.520 open you can look at me out I got I believe. 2:33:52.840 --> 2:33:55.880 I believe in you that much? Did I feel like 2:33:56.000 --> 2:33:59.400 you can be the president? But why why? Why? 2:33:59.480 --> 2:34:03.000 Why can't we have our own community, support our own community. 2:34:03.200 --> 2:34:07.959 I appreciate it. I appreciate because you know why use 2:34:08.000 --> 2:34:13.640 against Trump every every Yeah? So why not have you? Yeah, 2:34:14.560 --> 2:34:19.960 I take a shot. It ain't even got nothing to 2:34:20.040 --> 2:34:26.600 do with it. But why why why wouldn't you wouldn't you? Well? 2:34:26.640 --> 2:34:29.240 We got here, Oh thank you, Sam? Yeah, here we go. 2:34:29.760 --> 2:34:33.320 Okay, I'm gonna take something cash. He's in the writer, 2:34:36.959 --> 2:34:38.520 but why wouldn't you want for possident. 2:34:39.400 --> 2:34:41.920 I just feel like it's so much negativity and like 2:34:42.000 --> 2:34:43.200 where's the positive side? 2:34:44.720 --> 2:34:49.520 And there's music. Music is now when you're. 2:34:49.320 --> 2:34:53.039 A musician, there's not a whole party organized to bring 2:34:53.160 --> 2:34:58.320 you down like all the other R and B cats 2:34:58.680 --> 2:35:02.440 don't have like organized party trying to destroy my career. 2:35:05.480 --> 2:35:08.600 Like user fans aren't like outside my door with picking 2:35:08.640 --> 2:35:15.800 signs like fuck John Legend. It might be, but like 2:35:15.959 --> 2:35:18.800 if you run for office, like there's like literally half 2:35:18.879 --> 2:35:21.960 the country hates you or they're being told to hate you, 2:35:22.400 --> 2:35:24.679 and I'm like, I'm not interested in that feeling. 2:35:26.760 --> 2:35:30.840 But we interested in your ideology. I get it. I 2:35:30.959 --> 2:35:35.480 get it. We will leave with John Legend believes I 2:35:35.560 --> 2:35:38.200 get it. And I appreciate black people to say, you 2:35:38.360 --> 2:35:41.280 know what, we need you? Yeah, we need you. We 2:35:41.400 --> 2:35:43.560 want to get behind well. 2:35:44.480 --> 2:35:47.800 Crazy, I want to get behind you, Paulsey taking me 2:35:47.879 --> 2:35:51.480 back two thousand and four but the pause days. 2:35:51.680 --> 2:35:55.280 But we need we need somebody in that office that 2:35:55.560 --> 2:35:58.720 we can identify, would relate to because we can see 2:35:59.280 --> 2:36:00.160 you don't think that's you. 2:36:01.760 --> 2:36:04.360 I hope Wes Moore runs for president. And there's some 2:36:04.480 --> 2:36:06.480 great people that we can look up to. Let's let's 2:36:06.600 --> 2:36:11.080 so Wes Moore. He's a governor of Maryland. Brother, very accomplished, veteran, 2:36:12.200 --> 2:36:16.840 amazing speaker. Okay, beautiful wife. You know he can do it, 2:36:17.480 --> 2:36:19.640 and I think he's he's already governor of Maryland. 2:36:19.680 --> 2:36:24.080 He could do it. So I'll support them. So are 2:36:24.120 --> 2:36:28.640 we We're putting on money to him. Who knows. 2:36:28.760 --> 2:36:31.880 We'll see, we'll see, we'll see if he runs. But 2:36:32.000 --> 2:36:33.480 he could, and I think he'd do a good job. 2:36:37.560 --> 2:36:43.119 I'm looking at everybody here. What's his name, Wes Moore, 2:36:43.520 --> 2:36:47.720 Wes Moore. But if we could pick Wes Moore, we 2:36:47.959 --> 2:36:54.160 could pick John Legend. That's our next running candidate for 2:36:54.280 --> 2:36:56.400 the president of the United States. Look at this nigga. 2:36:57.400 --> 2:37:05.879 This nigga is Obama's because it Okay, I appreciate it, nor, 2:37:06.120 --> 2:37:06.480 I really do. 2:37:06.600 --> 2:37:06.760 I do. 2:37:06.920 --> 2:37:09.680 I appreciate what you're doing. Right now, you get an endorsement, right, 2:37:14.280 --> 2:37:17.000 love and respect. I did no. No, you know why 2:37:17.640 --> 2:37:18.560 because I trust you. 2:37:20.520 --> 2:37:25.760 The thing about it is, we're voting for the American President. 2:37:25.959 --> 2:37:27.840 You want to trust him. I want to trust the person. 2:37:28.720 --> 2:37:33.280 I'm gonna be honest with you me and that you 2:37:33.360 --> 2:37:36.280 know I'm brown. Trust you all right? 2:37:37.160 --> 2:37:40.720 Well, I appreciate it. I pretty much on you. I'm 2:37:40.760 --> 2:37:44.400 so sorry because you know it's all good. But but 2:37:44.640 --> 2:37:52.040 why not, because you know why? The one thing that 2:37:52.120 --> 2:37:55.400 we got to give Trump is he just outrageous. Yeah, 2:37:55.440 --> 2:37:58.520 you don't give a fuck. So why wouldn't you, Why 2:37:58.560 --> 2:38:03.240 wouldn't you be up? They be like this man himself 2:38:03.320 --> 2:38:08.880 holds down. I don't know, I don't know this is president. 2:38:09.800 --> 2:38:11.600 I don't want to. I want to. 2:38:15.840 --> 2:38:21.720 I'm gonna be honest that John John John legends resident. 2:38:22.040 --> 2:38:27.640 You gotta be writer. If you John let the president. 2:38:28.200 --> 2:38:32.120 How many of us is rooting voting for John? I 2:38:32.200 --> 2:38:38.440 make some No, I'm gonna be honest. I'm just sorry. 2:38:39.240 --> 2:38:42.240 We believe in you. Curls is right, I feel it. 2:38:42.400 --> 2:38:45.160 I feel it. The girls he's gonna be secretary of State. 2:38:46.120 --> 2:38:48.280 I'm gonna be something else, Like I'm gonna be like 2:38:48.480 --> 2:38:50.440 what else, drinker of the drink? 2:38:50.480 --> 2:38:51.200 Girls stink up. 2:38:51.360 --> 2:38:55.520 I don't think think we're gonna make some new position. 2:38:56.720 --> 2:39:00.520 I'm playing around, But in real reality, I was thought 2:39:00.560 --> 2:39:04.840 about that. He's not with it because because look at me, 2:39:04.879 --> 2:39:05.240 look at me. 2:39:05.240 --> 2:39:08.400 I'm looking at you. He's look at me, look at me, 2:39:08.440 --> 2:39:11.080 look at you. I have no beef for Trump. Right, 2:39:11.280 --> 2:39:14.080 but if I was to put you and Trump in 2:39:14.160 --> 2:39:19.920 a spelling bee, I'm picking you. Yeah, I would win. 2:39:21.560 --> 2:39:24.840 If I'm picking you and Trump against like like, uh 2:39:26.480 --> 2:39:28.440 of course we're a puzzle. I'm picking you. 2:39:29.000 --> 2:39:37.520 Jeopardy Yeah yeah yeah, travel so so so why wouldn't 2:39:37.520 --> 2:39:42.680 you try to lead off monopoly a little bit? Why 2:39:42.720 --> 2:39:47.600 would you? I just don't feel like I would enjoy it. Yeah, 2:39:47.840 --> 2:39:52.160 it's wonderful man, running or being in office. I don't 2:39:52.160 --> 2:39:57.440 think I would enjoy either. One very just one. Yeah. 2:39:57.560 --> 2:40:00.880 I'm sorry because I believe mean you so much. I know, 2:40:01.000 --> 2:40:03.240 I feel it. I feel it, I feel it. He's 2:40:03.360 --> 2:40:06.640 your campaign, I'm your number one thing. I know, I 2:40:06.760 --> 2:40:08.959 feel it. I feel if you feel like that next 2:40:09.000 --> 2:40:12.680 to year, Okay, I'll hit you, please hit me. Yeah, 2:40:12.720 --> 2:40:18.840 I'm gonna be like that. The John Legend man. Thank 2:40:18.879 --> 2:40:21.600 you so much, man, thank you. I had such a 2:40:21.680 --> 2:40:29.600 good time. What say it out? I say, I'll talk 2:40:29.640 --> 2:40:36.120 about let's go make some money? Yeah, get it now. 2:40:36.560 --> 2:40:38.560 I'm truly I'm glad I got to come by and 2:40:38.640 --> 2:40:40.360 see y'all. I've been wanting to do it for a minute. 2:40:40.600 --> 2:40:42.800 And I'm glad we got to come and celebrate the 2:40:42.840 --> 2:40:45.160 twentieth anniversary because I'm just grateful. 2:40:45.360 --> 2:40:47.120 And you know, I told you all these stories of 2:40:47.240 --> 2:40:50.120 like us on the come up, and like I think 2:40:50.200 --> 2:40:52.040 back on all of that when I listen to that 2:40:52.160 --> 2:40:55.440 music from Get Lifted, and I'm just grateful for everything 2:40:55.480 --> 2:41:01.760 to happen. Yeah, good John, thank you so much, thank you. 2:41:03.040 --> 2:41:05.560 I ain't gonna lie. You're the only nigga that ever 2:41:05.760 --> 2:41:06.400 ordered beef. 2:41:06.280 --> 2:41:12.360 Jerky turkey, turkey, turkey jack turkey. Yeah no, no, don't 2:41:12.360 --> 2:41:14.640 say that. That's in my that's in my rider too, 2:41:14.959 --> 2:41:17.960 because you know with turkey. Come on, I don't eat beef. 2:41:17.959 --> 2:41:20.040 I don't eat you sure that's turkey. 2:41:20.160 --> 2:41:28.400 I swear to god, you ain't gonna be able to 2:41:28.440 --> 2:41:30.039 tell because it smelled the same. 2:41:31.680 --> 2:41:34.120 Already, Bro, somebody went to the grocery store in here. 2:41:34.320 --> 2:41:38.200 They got it. Are you ready? You ate it already? 2:41:39.800 --> 2:41:43.200 You had a dinner with a shot though, and then 2:41:43.240 --> 2:41:46.000 we out of here. I appreciate you, y'all. Man, what 2:41:46.080 --> 2:41:53.959 a pleasure. You gotta let him go. We drink Champs. 2:42:00.440 --> 2:42:02.480 Drink Champs is a drink Champs LLC. 2:42:02.680 --> 2:42:06.200 Production hosts and executive producers n O r E and 2:42:06.360 --> 2:42:10.640 dj e FN. Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcast, 2:42:10.879 --> 2:42:16.000 Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 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