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Speaker 1: and welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Polette.

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Speaker 1: I'm an editor here at how stuff works dot com

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Speaker 1: and sitting next to me as usual as senior writer

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. Hey there, all right, we're gonna get back

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Speaker 1: in your new discussion of our discussion that we had

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Speaker 1: long abandoned. For those of you who are a long

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Speaker 1: time listeners, we used to talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: personalities that we think had a huge impact on the

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Speaker 1: tech world, and we kind of haven't done it a one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we we we hit a few big names early on,

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Speaker 1: then we kind of went quiet for a while. So

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Speaker 1: we thought we'd go back and revisit that kind of

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Speaker 1: uh you know topic. It's it's interesting to talk about.

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Speaker 1: So today we're talking about venton vent Surf. All right,

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Speaker 1: where do you want to start from the beginning? Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: a lot of you, uh you younger listeners might not

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Speaker 1: have ever heard of him. Yeah, but he's very important.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you probably would not be

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Speaker 1: listening to us at all if it were not. Actually,

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Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't have the jobs we have right now

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Speaker 1: if it weren't for Venten Surf. Thank you, Mr Surf.

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Speaker 1: Right um ac, Yes, doctor Surf. In fact, he holds

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Speaker 1: many degrees, Yes, he does, lots and lots of degrees.

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Speaker 1: So he has a he has a PhD in computer

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Speaker 1: Um smart, smart, guy, wicked smart, you might say if

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Speaker 1: And you might wonder why that is, Like did he

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Speaker 1: far back. The fifties alright, So the Soviet Union launches

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Speaker 1: and m and scared people. And it scared people for

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Speaker 1: two reasons. One they were thinking, does this mean that

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Speaker 1: the United States and Soviet Union were then engaged in

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Speaker 1: cause massive amounts of damage. Now, at this time, computers

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Speaker 1: So you don't have to write in because Plett actually

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