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Speaker 3: Here we go, it's hour two, first hour, flew.

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Speaker 1: By Live in Chicago. It's The Herd, Rock Purty seven

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Speaker 1: on seven passing drill last night. Those secondaries both very

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Speaker 1: mid as they say. All right, Nick writes a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes away, I gotta tell you there's a couple

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Speaker 1: of teams in this league and they played on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: rams Seahawks. You gotta be impressed with those teams. But

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Speaker 1: between the third best team in the league and the ten,

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Speaker 1: maybe a point and a half. Here we go in

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Speaker 1: our Herd.

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Speaker 2: Hierarchy heard Hierarchy. Time go the top ten NFL teams

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Speaker 2: according to College Number.

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Speaker 1: Ten Buffalo Josh Allen's hurt. Did you see the offense

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Speaker 1: once he went for an next ray? They've been held

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Speaker 1: under two hundred passing yards in three of the last

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Speaker 1: four games. They can't stop the run. I am not

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Speaker 1: as high on Buffalo as everybody else is. People keep seeing,

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Speaker 1: well Mahomes does it make the playoffs? If you watch Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: you watch Denver, they're pretty good. Seen the Texans defense,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't see this as a team

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Speaker 1: that can win three playoff games. They have no passing

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Speaker 1: attack down field. Buffalo at ten, number nine.

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Speaker 3: The Niners.

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Speaker 1: Opposing quarterbacks, including Philip Rivers have a one oh one

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Speaker 3: Against this defense. No Bosa.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the last night's pass rush wasn't bad, but

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Speaker 1: I think you can really beat this team in the

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Speaker 1: back end. And Christian McCaffrey twenty seven touches, they're zero

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Speaker 1: to four the game after he has twenty seven touches.

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Speaker 1: George Kittle's now hurt. Do you realize Kittle this year

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Speaker 1: is worth a touchdown to their offense? That is insane.

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Speaker 1: A lot of that's is blocking. I have the Niners

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Speaker 1: at nine, number eight. I had no idea Woody Marx

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Speaker 1: was that valuable. Texans were atrocious against the Raiders. Woody

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Speaker 1: Marks didn't play. Now listen opposing quarterbacks this year. I

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Speaker 1: have a passer running of seventy four. I do think,

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Speaker 1: and they'd be ugly, but I think they could get

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Speaker 1: to the conference championship. I like the coach, I like

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. If Woody Marx is healthy, they can run

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Speaker 1: the football. I got Houston at eight.

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Speaker 2: Number seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Denver just didn't play well, and the defense since

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Speaker 1: the Week twelve buy has gotten worse. It's allowing twenty

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Speaker 1: six a game since the buy. And it's not the offense.

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Speaker 1: They had four hundred and forty five yards now. The

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Speaker 1: other thing, though, I will give them credit, teams that

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Speaker 1: played Denver are three and eleven the following week. That

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Speaker 1: tells you they're a really physical team, and it also

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Speaker 1: tells you you should bet against the Jags this.

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Speaker 3: Week, number six, the Jags.

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Speaker 1: They were four and five in the red zone and

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Speaker 1: teams had struggled all year against the Broncos in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. Six game winning streak. Hard to run against them.

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Speaker 1: I like their story. I thought that game felt so

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Speaker 1: big for them. They were very intentional. They're receiving course

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Speaker 1: the real deal. Listen, when you're bad for years and

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Speaker 1: have top ten draft picks, you got dudes. And Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: at six has dudes. Number five I like Philadelphia Lane Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter coming back.

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Speaker 3: The band is back together.

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Speaker 1: There's only two teams in the league, the Rams are

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Speaker 1: one Phillies the other that are top five in red

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Speaker 1: zone offense and red zone defense. That's Philadelphia. I may

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Speaker 1: not always love their coach, but I got the Eagles

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Speaker 1: at five number four, beating them in Philly. I'll put

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Speaker 1: them four now. They've played an easy schedule, but they're

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Speaker 1: eleven and two since Week three. They do not give

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Speaker 1: love their head coach. I know a lot of you

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Speaker 1: Bears at four number three, it's like New England. They've

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Speaker 1: I like him seven to zero on the road. They're

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Speaker 1: is they move the chains. Their receiving corps is way

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Speaker 1: way underrated. Go look at big play this season. I

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Speaker 1: think you'll be shocked at where New England is number two.

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Speaker 1: Devonte Adams. Now two running backs, three tight ends. I

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Speaker 3: Rams at two.

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Speaker 1: Number one, Well, Seattle turns the ball over too much,

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Speaker 1: but they've been very good against good teams. They could

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Speaker 1: have beaten the Rams twice, beat them one, Steelers, Jack, Texans, Colts.

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Speaker 1: It's not just Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 3: I've said it.

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Speaker 1: If you turn the sound down when you watch the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: they look like the best team in the league. They

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Speaker 1: They can get out played for three and a half

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright for the first time in his career is

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Speaker 1: a Bills stand and he is joining us live. I

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Speaker 1: just there's so much about the Bills that worries me.

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Speaker 1: You've pivoted to Buffalo this year and it's a redeemable quality.

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Speaker 5: Why well, it's I mean, no, I just last year

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Speaker 5: and this year I thought going into the season Buffalo

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Speaker 5: I was correct. This year obviously, both years to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: Let me down. On that end.

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Speaker 5: The Bills are who they've been, which is they have

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Speaker 5: Even though Stafford's having the great year and the supporting cast.

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Speaker 6: It's a few years ago it.

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Speaker 5: Was wildly overrated and now it feels a touch underrated.

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Speaker 5: I know people wish Josh Allen had better receivers. I

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Speaker 5: a wide open AFC. And I do think for Josh,

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Speaker 5: when the hurdle for him to make the Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl has been Patrick Mahomes four out of

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Speaker 5: So I just think I don't think Buffalo has the

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Speaker 5: best resume, but of every team in the AFC, their

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Speaker 5: to be in the playoff field, I think I'd roll

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Speaker 5: with them with the possible caveat of look out for

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Speaker 5: my Jags. Colin oh Man, I told you a month ago,

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Speaker 5: what if Trevor went on the Sam Darnold arc. I

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Speaker 5: didn't know it was going to happen right now. I

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Speaker 5: didn't know what's gonna happen. Amen, Thanksgiving. He's been great.

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Speaker 1: Now I want to It's funny so years and years ago,

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Speaker 1: I saw a movie with a guy in a Jaguar.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was cool, But Jaguars had a reputation.

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Speaker 3: They fell apart that you could not trust the Jaguar.

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Speaker 1: Get British, the Brits, and then I think somebody bought

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Speaker 1: you know, they corrected those flaws. But I feel the

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Speaker 1: look good, there's a lot of good man. They look good,

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Speaker 1: but I don't trust them on a long roadie, why

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Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that I can't fully trust them. But

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Speaker 5: what I will say is this, Liam Cohen just doesn't

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Speaker 5: have like the pr that some of the other young

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Speaker 3: He's been excellent.

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Speaker 5: He has been awesome, and as much as I love

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Speaker 5: Liam Cohen maybe because the duvault thing was goofy, because

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Speaker 5: And then there's Trevor who here would be my argument

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Speaker 5: What Trevor's problem had been was his twenty worst plays

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Speaker 5: of the season. Brutal looked like the worst plays you've

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Speaker 5: ever seen. It was just dropping the ball, red zone picks.

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Speaker 5: Last month he has kept the highlight throws and cut

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Speaker 5: out the other stuff. They are this during this run, Colin,

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Speaker 5: they are beating teams by an average of eighteen point

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Speaker 5: eight points per victory. Yeah, that is the last year

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Speaker 5: they scored eighteen point eight points per game. It has

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Speaker 5: been a transformation, and I listen, they are alive for

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Speaker 5: the one seed. They are huge favorites to win the division,

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Speaker 5: and they feel a little dangerous and they do have

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Speaker 5: a bit of a Nobody believes in us since the

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Speaker 5: whole media and your guys Sean Payton all made fun

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Speaker 5: of Jacksonville for no reason. That's a fine American town.

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Speaker 5: Nothing wrong with Jacksonville. So I like the Jags. I

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Speaker 5: don't trust them as much as the Bills, but see

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Speaker 5: if Trevor can keep this heater going.

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Speaker 1: So you know, a couple of years ago, I said

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Speaker 1: as Andy Reid is aging and he's not going to

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Speaker 1: be around, So Mahomes is going to have to have

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Speaker 1: a second head coach and a second gronk, Travis Kelcey,

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Speaker 1: trustable outlet. So they like anything in life, it's just

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Speaker 1: I mean that the Patriots weren't great at drafting, but

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Speaker 1: then in the end they didn't have enough players. So

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Speaker 1: it's hard. Wide receivers hard. It's an emotional position. You

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Speaker 1: get some immaturity, blah blah blah. So is there any

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Speaker 5: That's as good of a seven year stretch as any

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Speaker 3: Are we you? Is it possible that we are looking?

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Speaker 5: So the Jucks is so all of it, So listen,

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Speaker 5: One small critique about the Bears, and this was Ben

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Speaker 1: By the way, m My only criticism ever of McVeigh

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Speaker 5: So here's what my response would be. And I'm not

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Speaker 5: Are they going to walk into the AFC Playoffs with

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Speaker 1: I like to put friends in the hurt higher argu

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. I had them at eleven.

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright has always buddy, great stuff.

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Speaker 6: Great to see. I see account.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did this last night.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what to do with them.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo's got to be in it.

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Speaker 7: described us when he came on our show.

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Speaker 1: Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.

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Speaker 3: What what are you doing interrupting our promo?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you wasn't talking about you.

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Speaker 5: You took those clips totally of context.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Well, after this promo, I'm gonna take you

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Speaker 7: out and beat you.

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Speaker 3: Let me put this into context. Shut up.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paully and Tony Fusco

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Speaker 7: Show on iHeartRadio, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Yee j Mack with the news. Turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News.

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Speaker 8: Well, let's go to Chargers Cowboys. An interesting game on Sunday.

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Speaker 8: Very nice win for Justin Herbert and company. I was

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Speaker 8: blown away by Herbert's movement in the pocket, just shredding

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Speaker 8: this terrible secondary despite not having his tackles. I'll get

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Speaker 8: to that momentarily. But you know who loved it even more,

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Speaker 8: Jim Harball. Listen to him gush about Herbert.

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Speaker 6: Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 9: That was as far as quarterback performances go. That was

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Speaker 9: a picasso just incredible played by him and just dialed

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Speaker 9: in like he always is though. I mean it's that

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Speaker 9: way every single week, with numbing repetition, how well he plays.

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Speaker 1: He loves his quarterback. Great place to be in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: There's not many quarterbacks. There's probably I used to always say,

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Speaker 1: I used.

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Speaker 3: To have this game.

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Speaker 1: I'd say, there's quarterbacks where you pick up the phone

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Speaker 1: and try to move them. There's quarterbacks, a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: Where you'll take a call on the quarterback, but you

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Speaker 1: don't get on the phone to trade him. And then

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Speaker 1: there's like six guys in the league tops, you don't

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Speaker 1: even pick up the phone. There's not a single player

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Speaker 1: in the league. Harbaugh would pick up the phone. There's

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Speaker 1: not a single trade he would make to get rid

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Speaker 1: of Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 3: I mean he is, that is not he.

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Speaker 1: They are so simpatico their relationship. Like all Herbert cares

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Speaker 1: about his football, Harbaugh is obsessed with football. That is

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Speaker 1: a great head coach quarterback relationship.

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Speaker 8: Colin Justin Herbert's been amazing, And it's interesting because nobody

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Speaker 8: talks about this. Okay, when Patrick Mahomes loses his two tackles,

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Speaker 8: he shrivels off and can't do anything in the super

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Speaker 8: Bowl this season, you know, both of Justin Herbert's starting

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Speaker 8: tackles are on ir He hasn't had them for weeks.

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Speaker 8: He lost one of his tackles this week against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 8: It didn't matter. I mean, listen, I'm not really comparing

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Speaker 8: Herbert to Mahomes. Resume wise, Mahomes has him by a mile.

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Speaker 8: Herbert won't catch him. But right now, if you're asking me,

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Speaker 8: who's a better quarterback this season? It's not close. Justin

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Speaker 8: Herbert has outplayed Mahomes.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 8: Both of them have been missing their tackle, so I

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Speaker 8: don't want to hear it. No excuses, man.

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Speaker 1: How many quarterbacks in the league could take the beating

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's taken this year.

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Speaker 3: And I mean Josh Allen.

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Speaker 8: Maybe Herbert's also got the broken bone in his hand.

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Speaker 8: Did you notice he went down against Dallas? It was

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Speaker 8: he came up when saying a favoring it, and Harbaugh

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Speaker 8: didn't care. He's still called the twist push Herbert runs

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Speaker 8: it in. I was watching closely because he's my fantasy quarterback. Listen,

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Speaker 8: I'm just saying I'm not bashing Mahomes. People will take

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Speaker 8: this the wrong way, but Colin, you and I watch

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Speaker 8: football closely. Justin Herbert's been a mile better than Patrick

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Speaker 8: Mahomes this year, and he doesn't have amazing skill positions.

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Speaker 3: They were down to a third string running back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really allasa soon below average at tight end.

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Speaker 3: So this is what we say.

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Speaker 1: The difference between there's a lot of levels of quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and tears. The guys that can do it with an

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Speaker 1: atrocious O line and no run game for six weeks,

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Speaker 1: and what's the what are they eleven and for?

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Speaker 6: Right now?

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Speaker 3: They should not be eleven and four.

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Speaker 8: Now, I'll just preface this. I don't love them this

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Speaker 8: weekend against Houston. I know the Texans looked awful, but

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Speaker 8: you could your battle line can hold up against Dallas.

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Speaker 8: I don't know that it can hold up against Hunter

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Speaker 8: and will Anderson. That's just a nasty combo. I'm leaning Texans,

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Speaker 8: but I like the Joms.

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Speaker 1: I'm not no, I'm saying I felt the same way.

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Speaker 1: If Woody Marks plays for Houston, I like.

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Speaker 3: Houston a p.

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Speaker 8: It's like Rice, Wait till ra she Rice AND's eager.

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Speaker 3: Woody is part a big part of that offense.

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Speaker 8: He's good your USC guy. All right, let's go to

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Speaker 8: the other Harball John Harbaugh. Now, I was mentioning the

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Speaker 8: speculation in Baltimore that people are upset, unhappy member Derek

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Speaker 8: Henry didn't get any carries after going up eleven.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 8: The Ravens have an eleven percent chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: They need the Steelers to lose this weekend in Cleveland.

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Speaker 8: That could happen.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 8: And then they, of course they need to beat the Steelers.

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Speaker 8: But after eighteen years in Baltimore, there's questions about Hartball's

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Speaker 8: job security, and he addressed it yesterday.

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Speaker 4: And it's never been about keeping a job. And there's

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Speaker 4: no such thing as like your job or my job.

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Speaker 4: You know, we have we have responsibilities, we're given opportunities

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Speaker 4: to steward those responsibilities, and you're given a job to

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Speaker 4: do that until you're not, you know, and then you

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Speaker 4: try to do the best I try to do the job,

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Speaker 4: not try to keep the job, because there's no such

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Speaker 4: thing as having a job, just doing a job. And

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Speaker 4: so my focus is on always it has been for

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Speaker 4: the last eighteen years here, in the last forty one

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Speaker 4: years in coaching, or is it forty two it's up there,

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Speaker 4: it's been to try to do the best job I

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Speaker 4: can today.

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Speaker 1: That's a great quote. That's a great way to look

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Speaker 1: at it. I like the Horrorball's always are so quotable.

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Speaker 1: That's jack that comes from Dad. I mean, they just

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Speaker 1: always have a perspective on life that is gratitude.

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Speaker 3: I mean it really is.

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Speaker 1: Both the Harballs are incredibly grateful for their position. I

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Speaker 1: hope everybody can acknowledge how valuable that is. As an

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Speaker 1: asset as a human being, because you could just it

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Speaker 1: just comes through the camera every time they open their mouths.

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Speaker 1: How gratitude, how grateful, and what gratitude they have for

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Speaker 1: their positions.

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Speaker 8: Good leaders. I'll say this the idea of moving off Harball. Okay,

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Speaker 8: I get it, you're unhappy, you're ticked off. The team

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Speaker 8: is trending poorly, But what's the game plan? Cone Is

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Speaker 8: there a coach out there who's a legitimate upgrade?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's some really good coaches in this league.

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Speaker 1: I just don't even I can't even broach the subject.

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh is the coach of the Ravens. I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody else fits that culture or it could build

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Speaker 1: an equal culture. So I just don't see. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's like Andy Reid getting up there. Physically, it's coming

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Speaker 1: to an end. It's like, I feel like the same

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Speaker 1: way if Kyle Shanahan had back to back losing seasons.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can nitpick, but the guy's so good.

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Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't matter. Garoppolo, where was Garoppolo? The

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Speaker 1: minit he left Kyle mac Jones pre Kyle seven teams passed.

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Speaker 3: On Brock I mean, he's got this history.

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Speaker 1: That's why I said when he let go with Trey Lance, folks, buyer, beware,

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Speaker 1: if Kyle can't fix you, you're you know, you're probably

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Speaker 1: not that fixable.

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Speaker 8: I don't know that. Was I going overboard with the

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Speaker 8: Lamar stuff or do you think that there's a question there.

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Speaker 3: I think Lamar's beat up.

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Speaker 1: His speed early in the season was fifteen miles an hour,

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Speaker 1: now it's ten.

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Speaker 3: He's not the same guy. Does it move the same?

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Speaker 3: That was always.

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Speaker 8: Injuries or aids or just yeah, he's beat up. Do

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Speaker 8: you think next season they can done that?

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Speaker 3: I think I think they will bounce back.

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Speaker 8: We'll see. Is Derek Henry on the roster next year.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: He's got he's he's had some ugly fumbles this year.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, getting up there in age. Finally, let's go to

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Speaker 8: the Niners. Bang Bang, Niner gang, Colin, how about brock Perdy,

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Speaker 8: my guy five tuddies, really impressive performance. Listen, I know

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Speaker 8: you were kind of muted despite saying how good they look.

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Speaker 8: You decided to talk about Christian McCaffrey and not brock

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Speaker 8: Perdy but Brent Williams. Oh boy, he talked about Brocking

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Speaker 8: Company chasing the top spot in the NFC.

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Speaker 10: It's not end all, be all, but it's definitely important.

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Speaker 10: You know, we got two playoff teams coming up, so

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Speaker 10: I'm just more excited to see how we match up.

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Speaker 10: Can we continue to play the football that we're proud of,

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Speaker 10: football that we played tonight, you know, because it's a

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Speaker 10: great chance that we could see one of those two

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Speaker 10: teams in the playoffs as well. So, you know, not

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Speaker 10: really number one seed. Obviously, it's a path to that,

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Speaker 10: but it's not the number one thing in our mind

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Speaker 10: right now, especially not mine.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say the offense is humming. Yeah, now,

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Speaker 1: George kittle Man, that's okay. So now you've got two

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Speaker 1: days less rest than Chicago. Kittle probably doesn't play, and

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey's coming off a twenty seven touch game. Those are

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Speaker 1: bad number. That's why I like the Bears. Those are

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Speaker 1: bad numbers for the Niners.

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Speaker 8: I did drill down on the twenty seven and touches

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Speaker 8: unbelievably all four times after he had the twenty seven touches.

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Speaker 8: They played a tough team. Well, they played a tough team.

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Speaker 8: They're not playing like the sisters are the poor and

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Speaker 8: I don't know that the Bears are tough, but you

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Speaker 8: did give me pause because I already bet the over

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Speaker 8: in this Sunday Night football, and I may lay the

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Speaker 8: lumber with the Niners. I'm praying this drops to two

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Speaker 8: and a half. It's three now, but I hope people

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Speaker 8: hear your your Bears love, and maybe Roma Dunze returns,

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Speaker 8: Lucier Burden returns. I just, I just I don't know

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Speaker 8: that they can stop this. This Niners off. These guys

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Speaker 8: are shredding. How about this. We got the headline writers,

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Speaker 8: brock you like a hurricane. Okay, we got a lot

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Speaker 8: of stuff in the chain. We're ready for action. This

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Speaker 8: Niners team, hey, Colin, Yeah, you gotta admit this. This

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Speaker 8: team is very fun to watch. Oh god, they're a

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Speaker 8: great TV product. I love watching the Niners. There's so

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Speaker 8: much fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get kiddleback, though, dude, that guy is Oh

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Speaker 1: my god. It just the blocking alone changes there are offense.

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Speaker 1: He is arguably one of the top two or three

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Speaker 1: blocking tight ends of all time. You took every receiver

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Speaker 1: and tight end in league history.

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Speaker 3: That was good.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and by the way, no, Ricky Piersoll last night.

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Speaker 8: He didn't even play. He was an early pick. They

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Speaker 8: love him. Super athletic. He can't say healthy, but I'm

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Speaker 8: just telling if the defense can get just a few

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Speaker 8: stops against the run. I got to look up Robert

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Speaker 8: Salah against Ben Johnson. I got this is chat GPT

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Speaker 8: give me the history of their matchups head to head.

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Speaker 8: I haven't done all the research yet, but it's early

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Speaker 8: in the week.

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Speaker 3: J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 8: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 8: Sunday, the Colts tried to keep their playoff hopes alive

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Speaker 8: against the division leading Jags or other regional action. Then

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Speaker 8: in America's Game of the Week, it's a potential Super

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Speaker 8: Bowl preview as Jalen Hurts and the Egos take on

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Speaker 8: Jo Sallon and the Bills. Check out the listings for

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Speaker 1: I said, if there was an award for the best

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Speaker 1: coaching staff in the NFL this year, I would give

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Speaker 1: it to the San Francisco forty nine ers. What Robert

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Speaker 1: Sala has done is amazing. So Slas signed for the Jets.

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Speaker 1: I think it was five years, twenty five million, and

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Speaker 1: he's the highest paid defensive quord rator in football. And

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Speaker 1: I have said all year I would hire him as

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Speaker 1: a head coach in the right spot. He's gonna eat,

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Speaker 1: he won't be taking public transportation much. He's done well

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Speaker 1: for himself. I think he should follow the Mike Vrabel

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Speaker 1: or Ben Johnson route. Ben Johnson turned down multiple teams

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Speaker 1: until he found a quarterback he thought that's dynamic. And

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel took a year off.

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Speaker 3: So if you look at.

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh and you look at Ben Johnson and Mike Rabel,

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Speaker 1: they waited until in their mind, okay, that's a quarterback

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Speaker 1: I can win double digit games with. You can't predict

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Speaker 1: super Bowls. But that's a guy who win ten, eleven,

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Speaker 1: twelve games with. And that's when you jump. The Titans

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Speaker 1: have an O opening, dysfunction, Giants have an opening. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't go back to New York. First of all, both

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Speaker 1: those organizations have dysfunction, and they don't have a ton

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Speaker 1: of momentous franchises, and that matters. But it's weird because

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Speaker 1: I've always thought a good coaching candidate, Now, Harball is

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Speaker 1: a great candidate.

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Speaker 3: Rabel's a great candidate. Sala did get fired.

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Speaker 1: Saula is a good coaching candidate, and a good coaching

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Speaker 1: candidate should be like a good actor, wait for the

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Speaker 1: right script. But both professions are weirdly insecure. Is that

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Speaker 1: good actors get They don't get called for the big movies.

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Speaker 1: They get an audition, right. They need to know a director.

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Speaker 1: And so it's easy for Matt Damon, who once told

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Speaker 1: his wife will take an extended break. I will unless

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Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan calls again, and he did for Oppenheimer. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm going back to work. Jim Harbaugh went, okay, Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert is great. I'm leaving college football for that gig.

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel watched took a year off, watched Drake May

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Speaker 1: and said that looks a little like Tom without, you know,

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Speaker 1: with better movement. So I think Sala and it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a weird space. I think he should stay in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco for as long as he has to. There's

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Speaker 1: only been a handful of great job openings. Now, I

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Speaker 1: thought the Patriots was great owner Robert Kraft, Josh McDaniels,

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Speaker 1: the OC had failed at head coach, wanted to stay there.

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Speaker 1: And Drake May was super talented. And you had three

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars of free agent money and you don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of It's a good organization. That was

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Speaker 1: a great job. Mike McCarthy, Matt Lafleur getting Aaron Rodgers'

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Speaker 1: late prime, great job. I mean, Mike McCarthy getting Dak

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Speaker 1: in his prime. That's a pretty good job. Harbaugh to Herbert,

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Speaker 1: very good job. But I think I look at Robert

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Speaker 1: Sala and there's a weird thing about coaches. It's not

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Speaker 1: just the money, because he's made good money, not a

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Speaker 1: mazing money relative to what you know high end coaches make.

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Speaker 1: But I think he could work in college. He just

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to coach college. I think he'd be a

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Speaker 1: rock star in college. But that nil nonsense. You know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of coaches now are like, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: pay players, just go coach the best players. But here's

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan on his amazing defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 11: I think Robert had a lot of opportunities to be

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Speaker 11: a decordinator. I think that was definitely one of them.

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Speaker 11: So just talking through that whole thing, and he got

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Speaker 11: close to I think a couple of head coach shops

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Speaker 11: in the time too. So he was definitely our first

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Speaker 11: choice and we were hoping that we would be his.

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Speaker 11: And that's a hot commodity and the way he carries

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Speaker 11: himself to how he is. I hope for us he's

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Speaker 11: not a head coach next year. But I also know

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Speaker 11: when you have the talent that's someone like Robert does,

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Speaker 11: it's only a matter of time.

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Speaker 3: So he's coached the Jets.

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Speaker 1: He's been in a bad movie with a bad director before,

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Speaker 1: in a bad script, so he didn't want to do

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Speaker 1: that again. So you have to be choosy and like

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Speaker 1: an interesting one, you say, oh what about what if

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Speaker 1: Joe and the Cincinnati job was available. I think Zach

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Speaker 1: Taylor's fine. I don't think he's McVeigh.

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Speaker 3: He's fine.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a great job because of ownership

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Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow's injuries. I do not think that's a

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Speaker 1: great job. Titans, like the quarterback not a great job.

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Speaker 1: There's folks, there's not as many good jobs as you think.

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Speaker 1: Like I think the ownership in Buffalo is strong, and

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Speaker 1: I think if they got bounced in the first round,

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Speaker 1: that would be one of the last great jobs in

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Speaker 1: the last five six years Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: I'm not rooting for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think Sean McDermott is is good and Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: the GM is known as a very sharp cap guys.

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Speaker 1: He knows how to work his way around the math.

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Speaker 1: But you know at these coaches they want gigs. There

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Speaker 1: is a lot of good coaching going on in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: There is unbeliev I mean, think about this, the playoffs

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Speaker 1: are not going to have Mahomes, Burrow and maybe Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna get Stafford and Aaron Rodgers and Caleb

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Speaker 1: and Vo Nicks and Trevor Lawrence and Justin Herbert and

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Speaker 1: Drake May and they're CJ. Stroud and you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a lot of great quarterback play. So if you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna have Burrow, Lamar and Mahomes, you would think that's

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Speaker 1: a dent to the playoffs. Jalen Hurt's gonna be around.

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Speaker 1: Brock Perties absolutely on fire, great stories. I do like

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia to beat Buffalo over the weekend because I think

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen still dinged up.

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Speaker 3: We can throw the schedule up at you want.

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Speaker 1: It's not at the one o'clock window on Sunday does

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Speaker 1: not harken back to the great early windows in league history,

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Speaker 1: the best. I mean, you know Thursday, you know you're

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Speaker 1: getting backup quarterbacks. I do want to watch Detroit at Minnesota, so.

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Speaker 8: Not just backups, Collin, Josh Johnson is a third stringer.

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Speaker 8: I know Max Brosmer is the third string rookie Alutacon

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Speaker 8: whoever that is is a third stringer. That those are brutal. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: this is a really weak slate.

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Speaker 1: Saturday is great, though, Chargers, well, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 1: Ravens have to win.

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Speaker 3: It's the season.

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Speaker 8: It's it's probably gonna be Josh Johnson or not Josh Johnson.

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Speaker 8: Who's the backup A Snoop Untley again, whoever Malik Willis has.

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Speaker 1: Hurt tell Snoop Hanley and Malik Willis, there's an argument

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Speaker 1: those are the best backups in the league.

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Speaker 8: We'll see. I think Texas Chargers is really really good. Sunday.

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Speaker 8: I'm circling that Panthers Seahawks game. Colin. I just sent

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Speaker 8: a request to our great statistician researcher.

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Speaker 3: The play is Carolina plus seven.

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Speaker 6: Yeh.

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Speaker 8: But is there a money line play on it as well,

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Speaker 8: because we've seen some teams from the West coast go

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Speaker 8: east in November December and we really struggle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: See well yeah, travel early is not travel late. Teams

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Speaker 1: are beat up. And it is interesting about when you

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Speaker 1: get this time in the NFL season and people Oways

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Speaker 1: bemoaned that we have all these backup quarterbacks. And this

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Speaker 1: is something I think, I know, I've been on this

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Speaker 1: for years, is of all the positions in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: we know quarterbacks most important. Left tackle either a pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: an elite pass rusher when you're front four to five

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Speaker 1: or two. I think the center. I think the center

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Speaker 1: is underrated. Corners overrated. Let me tell you another position

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Speaker 1: that's underrated, backup quarterback. If not for the quarterback room

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Speaker 1: and for three or four potential midgames moments