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Speaker 1: Welcome and everybody to a Wednesday edition the Texans All

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Speaker 1: Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio, John Harris alongside Mark Vanimir,

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Speaker 1: Mark Nick Cassari and the Texans just don't stop. They

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Speaker 1: continue to do. I mean, it just continues to go

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Speaker 1: on and it will continue to go on into draft.

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Speaker 1: So Jude Ahrety will join me later on with our

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Speaker 1: in the Lab podcasts, which you will absolutely love because

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Speaker 1: we talk about those draft picks, some of the things

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Speaker 1: that have happened in free agency, etc. Etc. But Mark,

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Speaker 1: there's more news today. We'll get them into the second

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Speaker 1: But how you doing. I'm doing great, Johnny, I like

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Speaker 1: you and looking forward to every single one of these.

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Speaker 1: And you're thinking, oh, free agency must have calmed down

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Speaker 1: for a lot of teams that have. We are in

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Speaker 1: the second wave, though, I noticed the Jags doing some

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Speaker 1: second wave signings as well. We were talking a couple

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Speaker 1: of days ago how inactive they've been relatively, But they

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Speaker 1: have been and they've been losing some guys, but they've

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Speaker 1: been signing some players as well, not of the same

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Speaker 1: ILK as the Houston Texans, because when players visit that

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Speaker 1: means they liked them, and if they really liked them.

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Speaker 1: You want them to not leave the building without a contract,

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Speaker 1: or at least to get one shortly afterwards. And that

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Speaker 1: happened with the latest one today. Yeah, no doubt. If

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Speaker 1: you have missed the news, linebackers have been added to

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Speaker 1: the last couple of days. On a Tuesday, it was

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Speaker 1: Corey Littleton from the Carolina Panthers, also the Las Vegas Raiders,

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Speaker 1: also the Los Angeles Rams, and it was with the

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Speaker 1: Rams in eighteen a Tina went to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: where Littleton was a Pro Bowl player linebackers. Not quite

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Speaker 1: that player anymore, but he's an excellent, excellent cover linebacker. Today. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Texans dipped into that Raiders well again depending on

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Speaker 1: how you want to classify Littleton, because he wasn't the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: They go to the Raiders again. And this was a

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Speaker 1: name that had been rumored. In fact, I got a

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Speaker 1: couple of texts as it pertained to the you the

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Speaker 1: University of Miami's Denzel Perryman. He now joins the Texans.

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Speaker 1: A thumper, a run stuffer, a run stopper. Denzel Perriman

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Speaker 1: joins the Texans, wait for it, on a one year deal,

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Speaker 1: which I don't really care about to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: because I'm cool with it no matter how you slice it.

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Speaker 1: So mark your thoughts about Denzel Pereman joining this Texans

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Speaker 1: defense in no particular order, Johnny. I think you can

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Speaker 1: always do well when you have Canes in the building,

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Speaker 1: right more Canes, the more the better. Now, I know

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Speaker 1: that right now it's not very popular to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Canes with what is going on in the NCAA

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Speaker 1: want to get into it anymore because I've been hearing

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Speaker 1: from people from Miami all week long, and some people

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Speaker 1: really want to visit, and I'm thinking, you know, I

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Speaker 1: want to see you, but I don't want to see you,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. This is really testing my

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Speaker 1: Canes fan hood because I love those Cougs. The Cougs

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Speaker 1: them anyway, and I used to go to Cougs games.

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Speaker 1: I'm not one of these back in five slam Agema

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Speaker 1: era days, guys, but I'm in the o's with Tom

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Speaker 1: Penders and even Ray McCallum. When I first moved to Houston,

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Speaker 1: little bit from when he was at Ball State and

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Speaker 1: I was at Central Michigan. So I'm pulling for the

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Speaker 1: Cougars big time, and sorry Kenes, but if the Canes

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Speaker 1: happened to make it here, if the Cougs lose, well

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Speaker 1: all right, that's a good consolation prize for me. But

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Speaker 1: Denzel Perriman is a kne and that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: I always like having them on the Houston Texans roster,

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Speaker 1: and Johnny, when you look at the resume here and

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl experience and all of that, this is

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Speaker 1: win them all here, right, just because he visited, and

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Speaker 1: just because you signed Schultz and single Terry and you

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Speaker 1: signed Corey Littleton as well at linebacker, but just because

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Speaker 1: But they got Perriman and Littleton done. So that linebacking corps,

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Speaker 1: couple of days. You mentioned one year deals you tell me,

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Speaker 1: my friend signing these one year deals, Okay, you make

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Speaker 1: your team stronger immediately. It doesn't eliminate improving yourself through

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Speaker 1: the draft, no way, no how. You're gonna build the

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Speaker 1: team through the draft. But this enables you to be

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at guys that sign those one

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Speaker 1: if you get these players in the building, you show

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Speaker 1: them what you're all about. And obviously things have changed

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Speaker 1: over the last you know, three years or so. So

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Speaker 1: you've show them what you're all about. You show them

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Speaker 1: what this team can be. You let them do their

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Speaker 1: work in a state that has no state income tax,

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Speaker 1: and you see whether they fit, and you see whether

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Speaker 1: think about Dalton Schultz. I mean Dalton Schultz. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: They've offered me some good you know, good money. Where

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Speaker 1: other occupation. Now then again with Stanford, so who knows,

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna have a rookie quarterback. And what does

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Speaker 1: I fall in love with Houston and I signed a

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Speaker 1: but man I produced, and so another team is going

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Speaker 1: so they end up with fourteen overall draft picks. Why

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Speaker 1: I think it's a win. I'm not sure how it

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Speaker 1: don't I don't mind it. I mean, would you love

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Speaker 1: but you're, in essence getting an opportunity to test drive

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Speaker 1: the whole thing is just bad. One year boom out

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Speaker 1: done well. Not everybody's gonna work out, right. It's just

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Speaker 1: You don't want to clog it up too much up

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Speaker 1: the place, all the shows, all the pundits talking about

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans and Jimmy Warden, Dalton Schultz and Devin

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Speaker 1: the most exciting Texans offseason in a long time. In

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Speaker 1: as far as free agency goes. Can you really. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that was a trade. He added a quarterback, he added

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Speaker 1: at the time that was exciting. It's a good point

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Speaker 1: about something's work out, something's don't. He was a four

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Speaker 1: stay healthy and help your team. But is there another

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Speaker 1: offseason at this time of year that was this exciting?

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Speaker 1: I can't really think of one. There were some cool

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Speaker 1: signings twenty eighteen, Tyrn Matthew came in that final wave.

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Speaker 1: the final wave of free agency? Exact ripples off the

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Speaker 1: Layton March or something like that, and there was some

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Speaker 1: they're good ones that year, but it wasn't quite like this,

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Speaker 1: And maybe some of it is all relative to where

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Speaker 1: more games if everything breaks right for them and they

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Speaker 1: get good performance at the quarterback position. So it's really

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Speaker 1: thrilled to see this develop. Yeah, there's there's no question.

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Speaker 1: And look it might result in five wins, six wins. Wait,

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Speaker 1: you know, crawl before you walk. I mean, we were

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about this. We were we were not

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Speaker 1: now I think we're you know, we've you know, Nick

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Speaker 1: just recentcy Biasesia. I just have felt this along the way.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Stroud has gained. I still think Bryce

424
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Speaker 1: is ahead. I still think there are a lot of

425
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: people that want Bryce, but I think that CJ has

426
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: absolutely certainly closed in the polls. I like the way

427
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: you put that. You put it better than I did.

428
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: Well Stroud with the Georgia game, that's like making a

429
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: really great speech if this were a presidential race. He

430
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: made a tremendous speech and it won a lot of

431
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: people over Oh I love this guy. That was a

432
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: great moment for them because or for him, because if

433
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Speaker 1: he didn't have that kind of game, Let's say it

434
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: was just kind of average or slightly above average in

435
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: that game, they lose and he doesn't really change the

436
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: perception that he had before. I would think that it

437
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: would still be landslide in favor of Bryce Young. I

438
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: think the only knock on Bryce is the size. And

439
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: I keep going back to Doug Flutie. I know he's

440
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: not even quite built like Doug Flutie, but he's about

441
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: Flute's height. He might be a little bit taller than

442
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: Flutie slightly. Yeah, he's slighter, though Flutie's a little thicker

443
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: than him. You know, there was a time and FLUTEI

444
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: could also play hoops. By the way, there was a

445
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: time when FLUTEI was going to go out for the

446
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: basketball team. This is well into his career and play

447
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: for Gary Williams at Boston College and Jack mcnell, the

448
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: football coach, said, yeah, we're not gonna do this. Okay,

449
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: this is not a good idea for anybody involved in

450
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: your football career, most notably me. So it didn't happen.

451
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: But flute's kind of thicker, and I think Bryce can

452
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: still do it though. It's gonna be really interesting to

453
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: see him play whoever he plays for. Everybody's gonna follow

454
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: everybody and see if they were right. And this is

455
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: one of the fun things about it. But you want

456
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Speaker 1: your guy to be the right guy. And I still

457
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: think Bryce is ahead, but from a lot of people

458
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: really concerned about the size. So maybe Stroud is won

459
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: in some people's eyes, but I put Bryce ahead. Just

460
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: buy a little bit at least right now. I'm gonna

461
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: leave leave everybody with this thought. As we're nearing break,

462
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: Bryce Young will not fail because of his size. If

463
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: he fails, it's gonna be for something else, be an injury,

464
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: inability to understand the scheme, put it all together all out.

465
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: But Johnny, injury is size to people. To a lot

466
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: of people, Yeah, maybe Bryce Young could get hurt. He

467
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: could he could blow out a knee standing still it's

468
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: because he's too small. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying

469
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Speaker 1: Bryce Young. If Bryce Young fails, it's not because of

470
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Speaker 1: his size. That's just to me. That's just that's the

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Speaker 1: way I look at it. And by the way, I

472
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: think Bryce Young is gonna be fantastic and I think

473
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Speaker 1: Stroud is gonna be fantastic. I think both these guys.

474
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Speaker 1: And it wouldn't be kind of fun to see him

475
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 1: in the same division in some sense, to kind of

476
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: do battle twice a year. But then again, Draga Carolina,

477
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: let Rice come to Houston or vice versa. They gotta

478
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: meet this year anyway, so it'll be kind of nice

479
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: that will happen. In twenty twenty three, the Panthers taken

480
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: on the Texans in Charlotte, So it could it be

481
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: QB one versus QB two. We'll find out very very soon.

482
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Speaker 1: Now the picks in the draft? What say Drew Doherty

483
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Speaker 1: and I Well, In the Lab is next right here

484
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Speaker 1: at Texans All Access. Welcome back to this Wednesday at

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Speaker 1: ISSA at Texans All Access. I'm John Harris Football on

486
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Speaker 1: a sideline reporter, one half of the In the Lab podcast,

487
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: and it's time or of the Lab we talked a

488
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: little draft picks. Man, this is fun. It's always good

489
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: to get hypothetical at this time of year. So let's

490
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: do it, Drew, Let's talk some ball. It's good to

491
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: finally talk some football. Talk a little bit about a

492
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: draft class in twenty twenty three that has somehow been

493
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: added to. You had all this ammo about a month ago.

494
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: You had eleven draft picks, and then you had some

495
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: taken away, but then you had something that came back

496
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: via the comp pick, and then you made some trades.

497
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: Now you have a dozen draft picks, one in every

498
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: single round, two in the first two and the third,

499
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: two in the seventh, three in the sixth. I mean,

500
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: you got a lot of ammo, a lot of arrows

501
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: in your quiver. And it's gonna be fascinating to see

502
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: which of those gets moved, because many of them are

503
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: going to get traded. You will not see the Texans

504
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: emerge from that late April weekend with twelve rookies. I

505
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: guarantee that. Okay, what's the number. Put the number? I

506
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: bet it's nine. That's what I think too. That's the

507
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: number that I've been kind of stuck on. That's what

508
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: they did last year. What if they had eleven going

509
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: in last year, I feel like two or three of

510
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: those went for the Metchi pick. But obviously they moved

511
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: down and got a couple more. So you know there's

512
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Speaker 1: the twelve. No, it's nine, it's maybe eight. So I mean,

513
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: I would imagine they're not picking three or four times

514
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: in the sixth round. But I mean, look, I would

515
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if they did. I've said as many

516
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: times I won't be surprised by anything, Yeah at all.

517
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: Even on Monday when I came out of the bathroom

518
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: and I look at my phone, like, wait, is that

519
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: say Dalton Schultz, Dalton Schultz Texans and singletary, like what?

520
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: I just was kind of floored, and I started thinking

521
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: about him. By drive up here this morning, Jurre, I

522
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: started thinking about, you know, I think all of us

523
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: kind of have this PTSD from the last three years.

524
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: Yeah that you know, obviously you know locally are you

525
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: know the guys on radio and you know analysts and

526
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: such locally they kind of they kind of got where

527
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: the Texans were nationally did every time you turned something

528
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: on there were just backhanded jokes about the Texans and

529
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: the worst team in the league and all that, and

530
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: I think there's some PTSD from that that, Wait a second,

531
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: do we do we deserve a Dalton Schultz? You know?

532
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: Do we deserve it? Evan Singletary And it's like, yeah,

533
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: absolutely we do. We've we've turned a corner. We've got

534
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: a we got a head coach and to become ryans

535
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: that the league believes in, that the city believes in.

536
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: Got a GM and Nikossara that has been working deals

537
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: ever since he's been here. But now I think it's

538
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: got some staying power to it. And I think it's

539
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: kind of a notice to the rest of the league

540
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: and maybe impending free agents there's a good opportunity down

541
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: here in Houston. You just got you gotta take a look. Now.

542
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: You gave your offense some firepower, your offense some firepower

543
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: reported moves. Yeah, and I think you've opened up some things.

544
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: I think what it's also done is it's opened you

545
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: up in a draft that you're not stuck with this

546
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: distinct need for any particular position. I mean, you've added

547
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: a couple of wide receivers, You've added a bona fide

548
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl tight hand, You've added a dynamic weapon X

549
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: type running back. Really, and I mean you've had a

550
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: case Keenum a quarterback. I do think you're gonna have

551
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: to draft one. I think that's been the plan along.

552
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: It's sure kind my thought. You're gonna draft one. It too.

553
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: But if you don't go wide receiver, you've already brought in.

554
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna have John Metchi who like a draft pick.

555
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna have Robert Woods, You're gonna have Noah Brown.

556
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: You've already got three or four new pass catchers, still

557
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: got Nico Collins. You still got Nico Collins. So you know,

558
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: if you don't get a wide receiver, I mean I

559
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: think they will, and I think it would help them.

560
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: I still think we need off as much offensive firepower

561
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: as possible. But you now put yourself in a position

562
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: where if you don't absolutely take one at twelve, guess

563
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: why you can get one at thirty three. You don't

564
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: take one thirty three and get one at sixty five. Yeah,

565
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: you're you're not putting yourself in a position where you

566
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 1: absolutely have to, no doubt take this particular player at

567
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: this position, because there isn't gonna be one later on

568
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: in the draft. So I do think there are still

569
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: I still think there's a needed center. I still think

570
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: they're already interior. I still think there is a need

571
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. I still think there's explosive ball carriers

572
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: and pass catchers that need to be added to the

573
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: mix no matter what. But you've now set yourself up

574
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: with the additions you made Jimmy ward A's safety Shutter

575
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: Rankins and Hassan Ridgeway, and a defensive interior. There is

576
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,239
Speaker 1: talk about some linebacker free agent. Desmond Perriman has been

577
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: in here for a visit. Denzel Perriman has been in

578
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: here for a visit. Apparently Corey Littleton's coming in for

579
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: a visit, who spent time with the Raiders, spent time

580
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: with the Rams, was a Pro Bowl with the Rams

581
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: four or five years ago. So you're looking at free

582
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: agency and Nick taking the approach of free agency. Look, man,

583
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna boast this roster. And now I

584
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: got these twelve picks. I got this ammunition to work with. Okay,

585
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: this is kind of what we've been waiting for. But

586
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like it's been a little

587
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: bit of PTSD, Like do we really deserve these play

588
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just been so long since we've been

589
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 1: kind of in the news of signing a player. You know,

590
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: it goes back to what we talked on this talked

591
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: about on this podcast last week. Think about it. Even

592
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: when the Texans were humming along twenty eighteen, they win

593
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: eleven games, but that free agency going to that year,

594
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: the biggest signing came a week after start basically came

595
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: at this point in that free agency period when you

596
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: signed Tyron Matthew. Yeah. I mean you had that first

597
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: wave of all the big names, and you had all

598
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: the belly aching of they do you spend money. It's

599
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: just different. But it's it's just like I said it

600
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: last week. I mean, I really I'm kind of in

601
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: the minority. I think the Texans made a lot of

602
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: moves early on. They made a lot, they added a

603
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: lot of starters. And look, they just added one more

604
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: starter in Schultz, and then Singletary is capable of starting.

605
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: Now he's not gonna start over your hammer that you

606
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: got in Damian Pierce, who let's talk about him in

607
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: a second, because I had a good little one on

608
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: one with him. You've you've added a whole lot of

609
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: pieces and now you get to buttress at all with

610
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: these dozen picks, which we said they're gonna get shrunk

611
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: down to nine. But a lot of that's gonna because

612
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: you've moved up. Yeah. I mean, I guess stranger things

613
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: have happened and that might not occur, but that's what's

614
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: gonna happen, right, That's what's gonna That's what Nick is

615
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: gonna do. He's gonna move up here and there I

616
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: think in rounds two, three, four, and five, and you're

617
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: gonna see him pounce on some of these players that

618
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: we've been looking at on the mock draft simulator. I

619
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if they if he follows

620
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: kind of the same methodology that he gets his quarterback

621
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: at two and then at twelve. There's a position that

622
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: maybe they're looking at and they're like, man, you know

623
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: there are three or four guys at this position. Why

624
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: don't we move down and see if somebody wants to

625
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: come up and get a different player. Yeah, and we'll

626
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: move down. We'll get more picks, but then we'll use

627
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: those picks to move up when we want to go

628
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: move back up or the other one that I think

629
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: that's definitely in play. I also think that a trade

630
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: back into the bottom of the first round is in plush.

631
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: Sure do I feel like sitting at what thirty depending

632
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: on how you clarify the Texans to the second pick

633
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: in the second round. So if you count the the

634
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: forfeited pick of the Miami Dolphins, it's thirty four. If

635
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: you don't, it's thirty three. Either way, that's off for

636
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: contract purposes. But what you're talking about is you you're

637
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: basically that it's that many players that have been chosen,

638
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: so you you're not missing out on if you're if

639
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: you're looking for the top thirty three players, you're gonna

640
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: get one of them right right right. And so even

641
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: with that, if you're looking at the back end of

642
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: the first round, you see a player that you're like, man,

643
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: we did think you'd be there. We thought he was gone.

644
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: We've got a pretty high grade on him. We did

645
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: think he was gonna be there. Let's make a move.

646
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: Go from thirty three to twenty seven, twenty six, twenty eight,

647
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: whatever it is. You see that player there, you could

648
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: do that too. You have that ammunition with those picks,

649
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: you have that ammunition to move up and do that

650
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: if you see that player that Joe Douglas and the

651
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: Jets did it last year. They had drafted Garrett Wilson,

652
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: they had drafted Sauce Gardner, and then at the back

653
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: end of the first round, they're sitting there going, hey,

654
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: wait a second, Jermaine Johnson still on the board. We

655
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: need to edge rush out. Hey, let's move up, and

656
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: they did. Sitting at the top of the second round,

657
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: they moved up, went and got Jamay Johnson and he

658
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: ended up being a factor for them as a rookie,

659
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: as an edge rusher and a special team's player, and

660
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: he'll be a I think an even better player and

661
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: you're two. But they had that ammunition to be able

662
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: to do that. The Texans have that as well, to

663
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: be able to say, Okay, we'll take thirty three and

664
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: I don't know what other pick, We'll move to twenty nine,

665
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: we'll move to twenty eight, and you end up getting

666
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: that third round pick or so you move down from twelve,

667
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: move twelve to I don't know, sixteen seventeen. Because there's

668
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: a team that covers a player, you pick up some

669
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: of that ammunition, you package that with thirty three, you

670
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: move up to twenty seven, twenty eight, you pick A

671
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: two sixteen seventeen and twenty eight twenty nine. I mean,

672
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: it's not a bad way to do it. You come

673
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: out of there with that will be a pretty exciting

674
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: draft party, which will be again at Milliartre Theater, which

675
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: is gonna be fun, but Milliardoor Theater one of the

676
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: gems of the city. Fuston, you cannot you cannot do

677
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: all those things that we've talked about if you don't

678
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: have the draft pick ammunition. And that's the thing for

679
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: years twenty twenty one, eighteen, eighteen, two eighteen. I mean

680
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: we're not picking until the third round, so you're sitting there,

681
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, you know, picking your nose, going all right,

682
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: w it come now? Just to read it up being

683
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: a great pick. You know, Jordan Nakins was a great

684
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: pick in twenty eight. So we waited and got good players,

685
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: but it would have been nice to have another great player.

686
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: Yes that you took in the first right, but yeah,

687
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: it worked out, but just the machinations of moving things

688
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: around you don't you don't have, so you start thinking

689
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: about what from the beginning of free agency, so this

690
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, we're recording Tuesday, so eight days, so this

691
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: starting on Monday, last Monday, and of course people start

692
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: panicking because it's not you know, and then all of

693
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: a sudden a few things start happening. At first Andrew

694
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: Beck signed, and then about a day or two later,

695
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: it's like, wait a second, Jimmy Ward just signed. Okay,

696
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: now we're talking. Then you get Lammie Tunsel extended. That's

697
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: a good second. Then you get Lammie Tunslo extended. Then

698
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: you get clarity what the Brandon Cooks trade, wishing the

699
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: best luck going to Dallas. Then you get Shultz, and

700
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: you get Singletary. On top of the other things that

701
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: you've done with Ridgeway and rankings, you're starting to build

702
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: with pieces that I don't know that you could have

703
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: gotten in twenty or twenty one or twenty two, twenty one,

704
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: twenty two. I mean, I don't think you would have

705
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: got I don't think you would have gotten them. You

706
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: obviously didn't have the webwth all because you didn't have

707
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: the cap space to do it. And so now you do.

708
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: Um and Nick has been he's been he's been working it,

709
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: to be honest, he's been working it, and I love it.

710
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: And then we get to the draft and we'll see

711
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: what happens. And if you remember, after the draft, I

712
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: remember Nick set just to my right and I said,

713
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, Nick, I said, I get asked

714
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: this a lot, so I'm just gonna ask you. You

715
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: didn't draft an edge rusher? He said, fear not, my

716
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: good friend John Harris. I don't think he said it

717
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: that way. Oh kind of. We got some things cooking,

718
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 1: and what they do the next day. Jerry Hughes, Mary Addison,

719
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: Rashime green Like and those guys made a significant impact

720
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: on the twenty twenty two teams. So it doesn't stop

721
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: once the new Once the legal tampering started on Monday,

722
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: last Monday, it doesn't stop all stay. There's guys still

723
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: waiting agency, and we'll be waiting in October. One last

724
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: thing on the draft. I'm spoiled by all these mock

725
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: draft simulators because one thing I would love, love love

726
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: the Texans to be able to do is to move around,

727
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: still use those two first rounders that they have this year,

728
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: but in some form or fashion add a first rounder

729
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: to next year's fall year. I know you got two

730
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: next year. I would like to as long as you

731
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: can always almost always have two first rounders in the

732
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: mix in your it's it's it's impossible, I know, but

733
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: I would love that flexibility because that means you get

734
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: three great players, you think, presumably, and I just love

735
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: layering and layering and layering on that talent. Now, maybe

736
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: it's a pipe dream, but if you get three next year,

737
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: well think about Philly to think about the Eagles in

738
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: that Regardless, Philadelphia had three picks in the first round

739
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: last year. We're just having two or more and sing,

740
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: right first, I love that idea. Well, Philadelphia took they

741
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: looked at it and went, all right, we got three

742
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: this year. We got a pretty solid team. But let's

743
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: stretch this out as much as we can. So they

744
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: took one of those picks. They dealt it to New Orleans.

745
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: New Orleans moved in took Trevor Penning. That gave the

746
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: Eagles two picks in this draft. And because the Saints now,

747
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: the Saints got kind of right near the end of

748
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: the year, within him a great record, Philadephia sitting in tenth,

749
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: they're sitting tenth with a quarterback they could have with

750
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: the draft that could have four quarterbacks going to the

751
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: top four or five potentially. So you're just having all

752
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: these good players, yep, just going down to them. And

753
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: if Challey Carter gets them at ten, I mean, I

754
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: don't see it happening. I see Philly jumping or a

755
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: Seattle jumping all over that. But it is old college

756
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: teammate Jordan Davis Man. I mean, that's how you that's

757
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: how you keep it going for a year after year

758
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: after year. And to your point, and I kind of

759
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: made the point there, but if you have draft picks

760
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: next year, I think you have similar or better value

761
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: next year because you're gonna have even more quarterbacks coming.

762
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: You're having Caleb Williams from usc you got Drake May

763
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: from North Carolina. You got Bo Nicks from Oregon. You

764
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: got Michael Panics from on a Wash. Make no mistake.

765
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying use one and trade out with the other.

766
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying right, use them both, but move around right hopefully,

767
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: and give yourself another one next and then do it

768
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: again next year. Just keep doing it so you're always

769
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: set up with first multiple first. Okay, So let me

770
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: ask you this. I'll ask you this, that pick thirty

771
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: three or thirty four we're talking about Yeah, let's say

772
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: I don't know who could Maybe who'd want to move

773
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: in there. Maybe let's say the Brown Oh no, it's

774
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: a bad one because we already got their picks. Let's

775
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: just sit pick a team. Say the Patriots. Patriots call

776
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: you in there like they're hot on somebody at thirty three.

777
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: They're gonna give you their first round pick next year

778
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: for your pick thirty three? Would you do it? Absolutely? Absolutely?

779
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: I would two. Obviously there's got to be some other

780
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: machinations and things that fall in there, But man, I

781
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: love hypothetical draft season. It's so much fun. All Right,

782
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: we get back, let's go round and league. Got a

783
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: couple of minutes left. We'll do that next the Texas

784
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: All Access. We got one final segment this Wednesday. This

785
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: show Texas All Acts, says sim your host John Harris,

786
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: FO final sideline reporter Football Taker dot Com as my

787
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: site check it out. Got a mock draft coming up soon.

788
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: You can check out my Harris one hundred as it

789
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: sits right now. All kinds of things going on. Let's

790
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: go down the league because there's plenty of stuff happening

791
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, including c J. Strout throwing

792
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: today is pro day. I think Bryce Young is tomorrow.

793
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: The Panthers sent a contingent. It's like the Panthers are

794
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: kind of treating this like an episode of the Bachelor.

795
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean, They're gonna go to this quarterback and tell

796
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: him they love him, and then go to the next quarterback.

797
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: It's like, where's the overnight dates? What's happening with this?

798
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: What's happening with that? Also other news, the Raiders came

799
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: to an agreement idea with Austin Hooper tight End, who's

800
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: been around a little bit. He had been with the Falcons,

801
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: then he had been with the Browns for a little bit,

802
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: then he was Titans last year and that offense is

803
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: a mess. And now he moves to the Las Vegas Raids.

804
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, you got that happening. You got the Texans

805
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: today signing Denzel Perriman. That is going to be very interesting.

806
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: Perriman is he's a thumper and if you think Christian Harris,

807
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: he's the speed guy. Corey Littleton a speed guy. Christian

808
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: Kirksy has been a guy that has been instrumental running

809
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: down to seem as the middle runner in a cover two.

810
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Now you're bringing Perriman and he thumps thick University of Miami.

811
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: We talked about it a little bit earlier with Mark Vannimir.

812
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: He obviously has a connection to University of Miami. So

813
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: another Miami hurricane added to the fold. So there you go.

814
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: That's it. There's probably some of the things going on.

815
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: I think those are the kind of the biggest things

816
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: that I pointed out. So we'll keep an eye what

817
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: happens tomorrow. Bryce Young's combined day. We should have John McClean,

818
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: so poop poo all over Bryce Young's day. But that's okay,

819
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: but we'll see how many pam there's contingent make it

820
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: to Tuscaloosa for that big Thanks to Mark, to Drew,

821
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: to all you guys for listening, everybody back in Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio six ten. Check out that Odyssey app it's a

823
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: fantastic one. We'll see tomorrow. Everybody and has always go Texans.