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Speaker 1: the Action Network, and this is your AFC betting preview,

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Speaker 1: Part one for twenty twenty four. In this episode will

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Speaker 1: be previewing the AFC North and the AFC West. Will

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Speaker 1: be back with Part two tomorrow with the other two

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Speaker 1: AFC divisions, and then the NFC will drop Wednesday, so

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Speaker 1: be sure to give all of them listen here to

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Speaker 1: help me break down the outlooks of each team in

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Speaker 1: the AFC North and the AFC West. The Prime Minister

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Speaker 1: of Degenerate Nation, Stucky Stuck, what's going on? Glad to

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's good to be back. In just a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks, we will be sweating out NFL action on

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Speaker 2: a beautiful Sunday afternoon, beginning our long trep to the

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Speaker 2: Lombardi Trophy. Hopefully I have another profitable year. Let's get

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Speaker 1: Let's jump right in. Baltimore Ravens are the team with

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Speaker 1: the highest win total in the AFC North, the flight

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Speaker 1: favorite at bet MGM ten and a half is a

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Speaker 1: win total minus one twenty to the over, and they

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Speaker 1: are plus one thirty five to win the division. This

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Speaker 1: is a team that you're always very very dialed in

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Speaker 1: on stuck. So I'll open the floor to you. And

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Speaker 1: when we look at the Baltimore Ravens heading into this year,

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Speaker 1: coming off that kind of head scratching AFC a title game,

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Speaker 1: a game plan offensively, what do you see?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, still not over that loss. Mahomes strikes again taking

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Speaker 2: out both of my futures. But the game plan was

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Speaker 2: beyond asinine. I have no other words for it. What

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Speaker 2: the Ravens were trying to do, not running it on

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Speaker 2: just everything that they did all year and everything that

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Speaker 2: the chief struggled with. But whatever, We're onto a new season.

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Speaker 2: But the reason I do bring that up and wanted

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Speaker 2: to say that is because, like that was the Ravens

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Speaker 2: to me, were the best team in the NFL eight year.

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Speaker 2: That was their chance. Like they had everything. They had

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson MVP season, They had health on offense, they

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Speaker 2: had an elite defense with McDonald running the show. Their

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Speaker 2: special teams were great as always. You know, you have

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Speaker 2: a home AFC championship game. Everything was there for the taking.

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Speaker 2: And it's not gonna be as easy this year. There's

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Speaker 2: definitely some more questions on this team. And you know it.

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Speaker 2: Last year, while everything did go with the team was loaded.

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Speaker 2: I mean just look at any advanced metric, but they

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Speaker 2: did get some breaks that they might not get this year.

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Speaker 2: Played Stroud in this first ever start with the beat

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Speaker 2: they had a lot of beneficial quarterbacks that they did face.

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Speaker 2: I think like nine beneficial spots, including like injuries. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that won't be the case this year and definitely or

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Speaker 2: most likely won't be the case in weeks one through five.

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Speaker 2: Brutal schedule to start the year, including the opener, which

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Speaker 2: up a bit. But remember in the AFC North, there's

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Speaker 2: really no breaks. But the biggest questions I have for

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Speaker 2: That's what everyone's gonna be talking about in Baltimore, and

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Speaker 2: Moses I think is a big gloss. Zeitler's a big loss. Simpson, meh,

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Speaker 2: But you're gonna be relying on it. Looks like Rosengarden,

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Speaker 2: He was hurt last year. Basically starting two rookies on

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Speaker 2: And you know, Stanley's older, not getting any younger, and

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Speaker 2: I do expect more two tight ends sets this year.

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Speaker 2: You lose guys like Clowney, Patrick Queen, I think is overrated.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a huge loss. I lose Geno

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Speaker 2: still have Rokwan Smith. The defensive line worries me some

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Speaker 2: The one good thing about the schedule is the net

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Speaker 2: So I talked about earlier this season when we did

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Speaker 1: I agree, I don't think the Ravens should be the

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Speaker 1: this team is, obviously the upside is still there. You know,

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Speaker 1: tas like it's a little more of a fade. The

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Speaker 1: But I just see a much more fragile Baltimore raven

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Speaker 2: The questions of Derrick Henry, Well, people could say, well,

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Speaker 2: he was running down a bad offensive line, which is

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Speaker 2: true the past couple of years in Tennessee. But that

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Speaker 2: if I had a better I would actually go under.

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Speaker 2: But I'm I'm projected right on. And if you start

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Speaker 2: listing the you know, the schedules, not like what do

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Speaker 2: I have this schedule? I have them with the seventh

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Speaker 2: hardest schedule in the NFL. And if you start listing

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Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the NFL, so you just go

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Speaker 2: the NFL. The Ravens probably played the first seven or

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Speaker 2: eight names that you list. So the and I just

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Speaker 2: mentioned before last year they faced all those backups. You

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Speaker 2: know Burrow when he was hurt, Burrow hurt twice, you

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Speaker 2: know Stroud in his first start. It's not going to

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Speaker 2: I think the market has come down to a more

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals also the win total of ten and a

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Speaker 1: half juice to minus one twenty at bet MGM, the

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Speaker 1: division ods for Cincinnati plus one sixty five. They're favored

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Speaker 1: in for me at least fourteen of their seventeen. And

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Speaker 2: they didn't get pressure. That's what you want. Just they

429
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Speaker 2: have the personnel for the Schwartz wide nine D heavy man,

430
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: lots of press, single high bringing six you know, Thornhill

431
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Speaker 2: kind of roaming in the back, Nickel heavy. Why can

432
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: you do that? Well, One, you have Miles Garrett. You

433
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: can move them all around. But they have three outstanding

434
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: man corners. And keep an eye on Greg Newsom and

435
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: his status early in the year. He's out right now.

436
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: But Denzel Ward do kind of worry about all these

437
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: concussions that he's getting. But Denzel Ward Martin Emerson is

438
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: an absolute stud. But you have those three corners, then

439
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: you have Delpit in the box. You can do a

440
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: lot of things with him. You can do exactly what

441
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: Schwartz wants to do. Get a lot of pressure, be

442
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: super aggressive on that defensive line, and then you have

443
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: really good man corners in the outside. It's the heaviest

444
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 2: man defense in the NFL. So the defense will be

445
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Speaker 2: good again. I think unders early are gonna be good

446
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: with the Browns. I just mentioned the defensive lines that

447
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: they're gonna face and the offensive line. I don't think,

448
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: no matter what, it's not gonna be fully healthy. If

449
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: Watson is gonna get there, it's gonna take them time.

450
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: The Jorkiez their punner, I don't know what he's taking.

451
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: He's always been able to boom and he's booming them.

452
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: He's booming them even further in preseason. He's had sixty

453
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: five yard punts. He can flip the field. Yeah, for

454
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: their first six are on the road, and they play

455
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: some good defensive lines, so that offensive line and you know,

456
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: Watson's not gonna I don't think he can make up

457
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 2: for a bad offensive line at this point. The other

458
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: thing is like they're they added you know, if you

459
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: look at their their roster, like they don't have any

460
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: depth at tight end now, I mean unless you're like

461
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: a Jordan Akens guy. But they bring in Judy, they

462
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: draft Thrash, they have more still there, and they went

463
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Speaker 2: to eleven personnel much more last year, which is like

464
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 2: what Watson wants to do. But that's not the Stefanski offense,

465
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: which is more heavier personnel, and that's like his how

466
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: he can ski. He schemes up play so well with

467
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: that type of offense. So like there's kind of a

468
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: misfit here. We'll see what Ken Dorsey doesh Sevanci will

469
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: still be a play call. Maybe you'll see more RPOs,

470
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: but yeah, I like, I just don't think that Watson

471
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 2: from what I've seen is capable of, you know, running

472
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: this eleven personnel offense that he can step back and

473
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: just sling it all over the field like he used

474
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Speaker 2: to in Houston, which, by the way, when he did

475
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: do that too, he was indoors, not dealing with any weather.

476
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: You know. I also have to remember the defense is

477
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: going to be really good, just a matter of like

478
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: are they super League elite really good? But last year

479
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: eleven of the seventeen quarterbacks they faced were either hurt,

480
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: right you Lawrence who was playing on one leg, Burrow

481
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: in the first game of the year, who was you know,

482
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: basically Matt Jones or now backups. And they also played

483
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Speaker 2: sant fram without Samuel and I believe Trent Williams is

484
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: out too. So I mean you look at some of

485
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks that he's hurt, Burrow, pick it twice, you know, Tannehill,

486
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Speaker 2: Minshew Clayton, Tune justin fields case, Keenum, Trevor Simeon, Jake Browning.

487
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was they definitely faced a pretty beneficial schedule,

488
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: and by the way they went eleven and six, I

489
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: know they had bad injury luck. They had five game

490
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: winning drives six and two in one possession games five

491
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: to zero in games by a field goal or less,

492
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: and Hopkins was money and other kickers weren't. Said great

493
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: field goal luck, which was huge when you play all

494
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: those close games and win them all. So yeah, there

495
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: could be some close game regression as well. But ultimately

496
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: just comes down to a question. Obviously, it's like the

497
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: offensive line got to watch that. This is just a

498
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: question about Watson. Yeah, and I don't see it.

499
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: I don't either. I think there's too many red flags

500
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: with Watson. I don't think Winston gives you anything in

501
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, enough behind him to change the

502
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: projection that much. And you know, you mentioned the win

503
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: total eleven wins for them last year, but their point

504
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: differential was that of a nine point four win team.

505
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: So teams like that tend to regress in the next year.

506
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, this is a team. I think

507
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna start hot, so it might be a team

508
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: to fade in season. You know, they face the Giants, Raiders,

509
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: and Commanders in the first five weeks, along with the

510
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Jags, so they could be three and they

511
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: could be four and one or even three and two,

512
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: and you can fade them to miss the playoffs. Or

513
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, go lower on their win total. But yeah,

514
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: right now they're under eight and a half is juiced positively,

515
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: and they're over is juiced up. So I would lean

516
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: under for the Browns, but let's keep it moving with

517
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: the Steelers because they're always fascinating. Tomlin has had no

518
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: losing seasons, and they're twelve and five over their win

519
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: total and putting four know their last four years, it's

520
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: eight and a half, so right there at five hundred

521
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: but plus one ten, so you are getting some plus

522
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: money juice to the over. However, I only I have

523
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: them favored in about I think six six games. So

524
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: this is kind of one that can go a lot

525
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: of ways. But Toman always finds a way to get

526
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: it done. Does he do that again in twenty twenty

527
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: four stuff? Yeah?

528
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: And by the way, before Browns fans get out of me, yes,

529
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: I know, they won eleven games and they won all

530
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: the close games, but they did do it with four

531
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: different quarterbacks winning games. And it also bow tackles both

532
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: safeties Potonio Chubb. I get it. There's cases on both sides,

533
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, it's just about Watson.

534
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, in regards to the Steelers seventeen straight non

535
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: losing seasons. I'm sure you'll hear that a lot ten

536
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: and seven last year, but played more like an eight

537
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: win team. They did have the second hardest schedule in

538
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: the NFL. Guess what I have them with the second

539
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: artist schedule in the NFL this year as well. They

540
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: were out gained in twelve of seventeen games, sixteen in

541
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: NFL history. To win ten games despite being outscored by

542
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: twenty plus points. It's a very interesting case study. I

543
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: do show value on the under I project seven and

544
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: a half seven point five. Last year. They went nine

545
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: two and one possession games. Since twenty twenty, here are

546
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: the three best teams in one possion games. Steelers thirty one,

547
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: eleven and one seventy three point eight percent win percentage,

548
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs number two twenty six and twelve sixty eight point

549
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: four percent makes sense, Bucker mahomes most importantly read, and

550
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: then the Bucks eighteen and eleven sixty two point one percent,

551
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: thirty one eleven one. You won't take it back even

552
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: further fifty one, twenty four and two. Over the last

553
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: seven seasons, in one session game sixty eight percent and

554
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: it's not like they've had you know, it was Roethlisberger

555
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: when he had no shoulder and then whatever cast of

556
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: clowns they've had a quarterback since. It's not like they've

557
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: they've it's they've basically been For my college football listeners,

558
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: make sure you check out our previous there and big

559
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: deuts on campus, they've basically been there. Iowa, like Iowa

560
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: college football, just have these anemic offenses, elite defenses, and

561
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: then they just find a way they don't beat themselves,

562
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: and then they just find a way late to win,

563
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: force a turnover at the right time. I mean, it's crazy,

564
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: and they've been doing it consistently, Like is there a

565
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: Russia coming or is this just who they are? I

566
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: always say it with Iowa, but I mean their's special

567
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: teams weren't even good that or it just was crazy.

568
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: They just they benefit from a ton of turners. But

569
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: it seems like that always happens in the fourth quarter.

570
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: I might maybe I but the under but I don't.

571
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I do show value from

572
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: a number of perspective. The other thing I don't like

573
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: for this schedule for the Steelers, they're bad teams that

574
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: they face are on the road, historically bad spots for Tomlin, right,

575
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: so they're he's not farewell raw Rock coach. You know,

576
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: going on the road against winning teams, they're usually always

577
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: prepared at home. You know, these are teams on your schedule.

578
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 2: I have seen no schedule. One of the hardest schedules

579
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: in the league. These are the teams that that you

580
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: should beat. They're all on the road Atlanta, Denver, Indianapolis, Vegas, Washington,

581
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: so that might not work in their favor. But this

582
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: also is a quarterback question. Similar to the Browns. They

583
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: bring in Wilson in fields, I assume Wilson is going

584
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: to start. You it should be an upgrade over last year.

585
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: They brought him in for nothing, so why not. They're

586
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: not paying them. The Broncos are, and it's better than Picket.

587
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: You have an Art Smith, the new offensive coordinator, has

588
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: his flaws, but better than Matt Canada. So at least

589
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: they upgraded there. The offensive line definitely need to build continuity.

590
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: Left tackle. Is it gonna be Jones or more? I

591
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: don't know. It looks like Zach Frazier, the rookie who

592
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: I like from West Virginia. I think it's gonna be

593
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: a good player. I thought I thought the Sewers did

594
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: have a really good Druft. He looks like he's gonna

595
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: start at center. Fott new who's gonna the rookie looks

596
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: like he's locked in at right tackle start week one.

597
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: But they've been like Kurt and they've been more in.

598
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: Jones been right left. They haven't really built continuity and finally,

599
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: I think played left tackle on college. So but More

600
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: and Cole were bad last year, so I think like Jones,

601
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: I think are although Jones gave up over a seven

602
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: percent pressure rate, so the offensive line is still questioned

603
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: to me, but it's improving, like they're spending draft capital there.

604
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be good in the future. Still

605
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: have questions for this year. You know, they were twenty

606
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: six and pressure Rader lowed last year. Art Art Smit's

607
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: still gonna be a run heavy offense, still gonna kind

608
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: of look like Iowa, but there's gonna be more play

609
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: action and like more effective motion. I mean back Canada

610
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: would just run on first down, run on second and long,

611
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: and then pick it with try to throw it down

612
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: down the sideline. That was their entire offense, and they

613
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: would never run plats and even they were running on

614
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: first and second every time, it'll be better than that

615
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: they were. That was little Iowa does, so the offense

616
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: should be a little more modern. Art Smith does want

617
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: to throw in the middle of the field more, which

618
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: like Russ can't really do that right now. I think

619
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: Wilson's washed and I don't think he's gonna work here.

620
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: By the way, the backfield's good with Harrison Warren, but

621
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: warren hamstring injury this weekend red flag. Especially early in

622
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: the season. Uh, Secondary is still a question for me.

623
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Speaker 2: Los twenty six hundred snaps from twenty twenty three. You

624
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: know you add Elliott Man, Dante Jackson I think is watched.

625
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: He's right at that age where it looks like he

626
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: will be Cam Sutton I'm not a fan of, and

627
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: he's suspended. I like their Joey Porter Jr. Really strong

628
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: second half the year. But who's Stevie two. I think

629
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: Corey Trice might have the most potential. We'll see if

630
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: he ever emerges. Beanie Bishop starting in the slot as

631
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: a rookie. So secondary definitely has questions, and they're relying

632
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: a lot of aging stars like they're getting older. And

633
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge queen guy either, so I don't

634
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: think that's like some huge get. So yeah, I I

635
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: would lean under on the Steelers. I don't think Wilson's

636
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: the answer, and I still have questions about this offensive

637
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: line and the secondary. The schedule's really hard. Yeah, they

638
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: got the ten wins last year, Like I said, they

639
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: were played like an eight one team. Three their last

640
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 2: four wins get the playoffs, Browning twice and huntly.

641
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

642
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I think if I had a

643
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: bet on it, if I had to, I would bet

644
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: the under, and this streak ends, but I'm not sure

645
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: if I will just Tom and his Iowa he finds

646
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: a way.

647
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Steelers, I don't want to bet the under

648
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: on them just because of their track erer, but definitely

649
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: not betting over as I think Justin Fieldz is the

650
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: best quarterback on that roster. So yeah, that's I like

651
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: the Bengals in this division as well. All right, let's

652
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: jump to the AFC West and the Kansas City Chiefs,

653
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: of course, are the favorite there. Eleven and a half

654
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: is the win total. Minus went twenty to the over

655
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: at bet MVM minus two fifty to win the division.

656
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: Of course, Andy Reid nine and two over his win

657
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: total with the Kansas City Chiefs and his eleven seasons, however,

658
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: lost two of three over the last three seasons. This

659
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: team is trying to make history and do the get

660
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: a three peat. What do you see for Kansas City

661
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four?

662
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: I mean I project right close to it, which I

663
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: was happy to see because who wants to bet Mahomes

664
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: and read under read it seventy five percent to the

665
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: over win totals this century. And yeah, you mentioned nine

666
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: and two. There are two times that they didn't go

667
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: over was by a half game. Death taxes in Kansas City.

668
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: The one thing that could derail it injuries. They've been

669
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: pretty healthy, so I mean, obviously if Mahomes gets hurt,

670
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: there's some questions on the roster for sure. I mean

671
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: Snead is gone, which means you're gonna you're they're likely

672
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: to moveing McDuffie to the outside. And just Snead and

673
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: McDuffie that was they were just such a great tandem.

674
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: You lose Willie Gay as well. The offensive line questions again,

675
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: but Mahomes, you could just say butt Mahomes to all

676
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: of this. But it looks like Kingsley Suma Tea. I

677
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: think I said his name wrong, but uh, Suma Taia

678
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: the rookie is gonna start at left tackle and Taylor

679
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: at right tackle in two is good, but the tackles

680
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: again are going to be an issue. Wide receiver room

681
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: still has questions. Can wear these body hold up? Obviously

682
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: the speed is going to be dangerous as hell. With Mahomes,

683
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: you bring in Hollywood Brown, can he hold up? And

684
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: then obviously you have rashe Rice. What's going to happen

685
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: with him in his suspension? And then you have Travis Kelce.

686
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: You definitely is not as lead as he once was.

687
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: We saw that all through the regular season. Yeah, but

688
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: he turned it on in the playoffs. But is he

689
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: going to have these weeks where he doesn't look like

690
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: the same player? So yeah, there's some questions in the secondary,

691
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: but you trust Bags to figure it out. There's some

692
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: questions on the offense, but you fit, you trust Mahomes

693
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: to figure it out. And I just mentioned the close

694
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: game record of the Steelers. Chiefs are number two, twenty

695
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: six and twelve since twenty twenty over sixty eight percent.

696
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: They're probably going to win more close games than not

697
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: this year again because you have the best quarterback in

698
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: the NFL, you have Red, and you have Bucker to

699
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: make clutch kicks. Saw that the last NFL game we

700
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: watched in the Super Bowl. So yeah, I project right on,

701
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: there'll be a player in the AFC obviously, and it

702
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: helps that win the Super Bowl. And I have their

703
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: schedules the twenty fourth because their division is not great,

704
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: especially compared to some of these other divisions in the AFC,

705
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 2: So I project right on nothing preseason, but definitely be

706
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: looking to fade them, especially when they're like a bigger

707
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: favorite as usual. But that's for a later date.

708
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Kansas City at this point, you know,

709
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 1: every year that Mahomes has been the starter, they've gotten

710
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship game. So I think if you

711
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: want to bet Kansas City, you know, bet them to

712
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: win the AFC Championship, bet them to win the Super Bowl,

713
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: bet them to reach the AFC title game. That's I

714
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: think those are a lot better bets than just trying

715
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: to bet onto my newche of You know, whether they

716
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: win eleven games or twelve games, you know, the division

717
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: it's minus two fifty not really getting it's not worth

718
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: putting your money up for, you know, four or five

719
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: months for that or so That's how I kind of

720
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: look at Kansas City and the Chargers. Nine and a

721
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: half is the win total plus one forty five to

722
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: the over, So the markets kind of come down on

723
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: them plus three fifty to win the division. This is

724
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: a team that I want a fan. I'm curious to

725
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: hear your opinions on this, but I just look at

726
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: the charge and I see a team not in position

727
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: necessarily to take advantage of its biggest strength, which is

728
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: justin Herbert throwing a football. Number One, you have Herbert

729
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: coming into the year with this Planter fascion injury, which

730
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: could winger. We saw how Burrow, you know, kind of

731
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: struggled with a leg injury when he entered the season hurt.

732
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: You lost what Keenan Allen, Mike Williams at wide out

733
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: and Austin Eckler, a running back that's over nine thousand

734
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: of Herbert's career passing yards, over half of both his

735
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: passing yards and his passing touchdowns for his career Between

736
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: those three guys, fifty eight scores they caught from him

737
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: and then you know, Roman's notoriously run heavy, so how

738
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: much were you really going to pass anyway?

739
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: You know?

740
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: Put your backfield is Edwards, who's twenty nine, and he's

741
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: been declining in terms of his yards per touch since

742
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. JK. Dobbins has played just nine games. Yeah,

743
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: just nine games in twenty twenty. So they have some talent,

744
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: but you know, it's I think the depth is a

745
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: question mark, and then the defense. You know, twenty six

746
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: and Dvowa last year, macuts thirty three. Bos has missed

747
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: twenty games over the last two years. James was a

748
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: show of himself in coverage last year. You have a

749
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: first time defensive coordinator and Jesse Minter. So I'm fading

750
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I don't think that this is in a

751
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: competitive AFC necessarily a team that's getting to the playoffs,

752
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: a team that's winning nine to ten games right off

753
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: the bat. Even though I have a lot of respect

754
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: for Harball, I just think there's a lot more issues

755
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: than probably meet the eye with this team, even in

756
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: you know, a somewhat weak division outside of Kansas City.

757
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: You know, So I don't like the Chargers, But what

758
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: are your thoughts?

759
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I'm hoping to get like a little

760
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: Juice nine play under there. But I do like the

761
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: under on the Chargers. I think, I love the I

762
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: think Harball will get it turned around, and I love

763
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: the Jesse Minor Higher talk about defensive coordinators later and

764
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: scheme at some point in one of these podcasts. But

765
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: I just don't think that they have number one on offense.

766
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: They just don't have the pieces yet. Like the offensive

767
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 2: line could be good, you know, especially if all hits

768
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: at right tackle the rookie you know, just looks the part.

769
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: Their offensive line could be pretty good, and they want

770
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: to run the ball, but the weapons just aren't there.

771
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like Josh Palmer, McConkie and DJ Shark

772
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: and we saw the passing offense even with Herbert when

773
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: they didn't have Alan Andoor Williams just fell off a

774
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: cliff And the weapons just aren't there for this offense.

775
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: I don't think that our ball. It's gonna take up

776
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: time to build out the roster and Mintor to what

777
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: he wants to do with the defense. I don't think

778
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: as the pieces to run ideally what Minter wants to do.

779
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: We saw, you know, you look at what McDonald did

780
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: with the Ravens. They had a ton of talent on

781
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: that team, so you're able to be much more and

782
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: multiple and do many more things that I don't like. Yeah,

783
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: Derwin James could be an interesting chess piece that I'm

784
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: sure he's going to use, similar to what McDonald did

785
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: with Kyle Hamilton, but like Christian Fulton bringing him in

786
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: at corner to see your tailor, Nick like, it's just

787
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: not a very talented secondary. You need a Sante Samuel

788
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: to just bounce back and have a monster year. And

789
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: you mentioned it, Mac and Bosa aren't getting any younger

790
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 2: like Kenley and Perriman. As you're inside linebackers, it's not great.

791
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 2: The depth to just go down the depth, the depth

792
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: on the defense if anyone gets hurt, it's.

793
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: Really depth is The depth is poor. And I can

794
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: say that firsthand because I was at that Charger Ram

795
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: preseason game and you know, as the game progressed, I

796
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: actually took a bet on the Rams live. They were

797
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: down at think sixty three, and it was just because

798
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: watching the Chargers second and third teams and their depth,

799
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: it just wasn't there. I really almost no none of

800
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: the positions especially none of that matters, So yeah, I agree.

801
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: I think this Charger team, the depth is the coaches go.

802
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: The quarterback is good and that's always a great starting point,

803
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: but a lot of gaps to fill in.

804
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: Besides, and Herbert's lanner fast is gonna gonna linger. It's

805
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: gonna hurt exactly. The definition is mobile and he's probably

806
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to push off, probably early on.

807
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: I know he just came out of the boot, but

808
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: that's something that's gonna linger. So yeah, I know the

809
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:25,479
Speaker 2: Chargers on paper are a by team for regression. Last

810
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: year they were super unlucky pretty much across the board.

811
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: They went oh and seven in games decided by three

812
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: points or less, finished with five wins. Should have finished

813
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: with a few more. But and they do have a

814
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: much easier schedule on paper, top one of the top

815
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: three easiest schedules in the NFL.

816
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: I still have the dogs in eight of their first thirteen,

817
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: so I think it's easy at the end, but that's

818
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: you know, they'd be kind of playing ketchup a little,

819
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: but I still think it could. They could have a

820
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: rough start, you know, given there.

821
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, easy at the end. It is easy on paper

822
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: at the beginning. But I'm like Vegas and Carolina to

823
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: start the first two at least.

824
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: Well yeah, those two. But then yeah, so middle of

825
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: the middle, I should say middle.

826
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Speaker 2: Of the g but they faste a ton of They

827
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: face more backup quarterbacks than eight seens league les years.

828
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: They were lucky there, like the totals eight eight and

829
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 2: a half. It's not like it's six and a half

830
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: where you're getting there.

831
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: So it's nine and half a better MVM. So yeah,

832
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's but yeah, nine and a half, yes,

833
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: it's uh yeah, but there's you know, there's big juice

834
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: on you know, there's big juice to the under on

835
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: the nine and a half and a much money to

836
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: the over.

837
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is a fas.

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853
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: Denver So Vegas six and a half is the win

854
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: total minus won forty five to the over nine to

855
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: one to win the West. I only have this team

856
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: favorite in a couple of games this year. Minshew's name

857
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: the starter, and you know he kind of carried the

858
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: Colts or because you know, it was decent with the

859
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: Coats to the point where they were in contention. But

860
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: I think this could be a disaster waiting for waiting

861
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: to happen. You know, I just don't know if the

862
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: Raiders have enough really anywhere to be to get even

863
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: to the seven win total. I think there's just a

864
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: lot of holes on this roster. I still have questions

865
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: about Pierce, even though he was a nice story last year.

866
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't think you have much upside in the quarterback

867
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: room Davonte Adams. You know, are is he going to

868
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: get traded at some point if they start poorly? Just

869
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: the offensive line I think is average at best. Just

870
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: the defense should finally be, you know, better than you

871
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: know it's been in years past. I mean, Raiders almost

872
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: never have a great defense. But still don't think that,

873
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, this defense is like a game changing defense

874
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: that's gonna, you know, make up for the fact that

875
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: you have Minshew and Aidan O'Connell at quarterback. But what

876
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: are you thinking with the Raiders?

877
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the offensive line has potential. I mean, is

878
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: just like he's gonna be like an average quarterback. He

879
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: can win you some games.

880
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: He's not gonna think average. I think it's bow average.

881
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: I think I think the coaches top three offensive line

882
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: last year.

883
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: I mean year I have him like probably like twenty

884
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 2: second probably I think last year. But he's not a disaster.

885
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: He's serviceable. The good thing is that he.

886
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: Could be could be he could be like that that

887
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: I think that was the best minta you're getting. I

888
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: mean that's just I mean, we could disagree but they could.

889
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: Go O'Connell like and like O'Connell was fine for rookie

890
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: like their their quarterback position is not gonna win games,

891
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: but at least they have like two options. Like the

892
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 2: Chargers don't Minshew. I mean if you got Easton Stick

893
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: who looks awful.

894
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: And oh yeah I saw that firsthand.

895
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like and the charters have nothing. If he

896
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: gets hurt, it's like minshe gets hurt as ineffectively, she

897
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: can go to O'Connell. The offensive line has potential if

898
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: powers Johnson, the rookie hits a guard and the left side,

899
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: like Miller, they're both out right now, they're both not

900
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: They're both hurt, so they got to get them back.

901
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: Question at running back, for sure, they do have weapons

902
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 2: on the outside. Offensive line has potential if Howards Johnson

903
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 2: hits Miller gets back healthy. The defense, it's one of

904
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: the most interesting defenses in the NFL. To me, they

905
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: are not talented. They still have major questions in the secondary,

906
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: but last year they were unbelievable on defense, especially the

907
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: second half of the year. Now, they did play a

908
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: bunch of backup quarterbacks, but many maybe just for that,

909
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: they were very good and this is a defense. The

910
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: team that spent the second fewest dollars on defense in

911
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 2: the whole league last year, and their second highest paid

912
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: player was Chandler Jones, who didn't play yep, and they

913
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 2: finished with a top ten schedule. Adjust the defense. Why

914
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: so I went into this for hours just watching Raiders games,

915
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of it just has to

916
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: do with and we've kind of tooted his horn for

917
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: years in Patrick Graham. I think he's one of the

918
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: most underrated coordinators in the NFL. And if you look

919
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: at his background, started with Belichick charting plays, just incessantly

920
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: got the game planning aspect of defense. Worked under Spagnola,

921
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 2: learned about all the unbelievable exotic blitzes, worked under Flores,

922
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 2: Exotic fronts, went worked under Peton, learned quarters, then went

923
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: to the Giants DC peel back the blitzer started using

924
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 2: more sim pressures. Now he has like this hybrid and

925
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: this all like the defenses that now are forming the

926
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: more modern kind of next evolution of the Fangio defense,

927
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: which is kind of like the Ravens defense, the McDonald defense,

928
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: And it all starts, you know, they when he's focused

929
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 2: on stopping the run, takeaway, explosive plays, and it all

930
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: starts with like these unbelievable stunts and games. He plays

931
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: with the defensive line up front, and he's a defensive

932
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: line guy by nature, but he does such a good

933
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: job of confusing opposing offensive lines. They do such a

934
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: good job of freeing up Crosby. Think about it. Crosby's

935
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: like he was the only guy who had to worry

936
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: about and he's still had unbelievable years. Now you had

937
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: Christian Wilkins there, So yeah, I think so I like

938
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 2: the Raiders under, but the part of me is afraid

939
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: of that I'm under rating their defense because of Graham,

940
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: And I think he just might be a wizard that

941
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: from a game planning perspective and scheming that this defenses

942
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: could overperform again because I just love his background. Is

943
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: everything that you would want in a defensive coordinator and

944
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: it showed last year and we even liked him when

945
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: he was at New York. Would we would two to

946
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: horn So if I had a bet, I would go

947
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: under with the Raiders. But I just wanted to shout

948
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: out Patrick Graham is more of like this hybrid defensive

949
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: coordinator for people that don't know you have you know,

950
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: back in the early two thousands, we were covered two,

951
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: then we want to cover three. Cover one. Cover three

952
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: was the Pete Carroll. Then then we went to you know,

953
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 2: this Fangio defense, which was you know, your mixed coverages

954
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: in the back end, but it was a too high shell,

955
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 2: a lot of cover three in quarters. And now you

956
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: have the Ravens McDonald beve. It's a lot of similarities

957
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: to what Fangio runs, but just the next evolution of it.

958
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: And you're seeing that now. So like the Fangio Tree

959
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 2: is like Philly where he is, the Rams Arizona, Carolina,

960
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: Carolina is a ton of cover. The Ravens Streets now Baltimore, Tennessee, Seattle,

961
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: Chargers Miami to an extent, although they're coordinator who will

962
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: talk about Later's a lot of influences. Then you saw

963
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: the Carol Tree, Carol sant Frantree. You got about five

964
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: coordinators there, but they've all evolved except for your boy

965
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: Gus Bradley. You have like Morris who has evolved, Dan

966
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: Quinn who has evolved to like more cover one, San

967
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: fran the Jets Houston now more quarters. Then you have

968
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: like some of these hybrid guys. Some of your Cover

969
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: one guys, your lone wolves, Flores and Mayo or Belichick guys,

970
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: Fags McDermot, Jim Johnson guys. You have your cover two

971
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: ever fluce influence, zimmers more of a Cover two man.

972
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: But out of the hybrid guys who kind of take

973
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: a lot of these, you know, more modern influence and

974
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: kind of shape their own defense because all the offenses

975
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: modern offense. Mike McDaniel's doing in Miami, he has like

976
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: he's beating these fangio defenses. He has all the beaters

977
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 2: with his motion and confusing going in the middle of

978
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: the field. These coordinators who can really adapt, change their defenses,

979
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: change their schemes, adapt based on opponent. That's where you're

980
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: gonna have to live. And a guy like Graham, a

981
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: guy like Anna Roumo since he comes to mind, and

982
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: obviously McDonald and that Raven Tree, that's what they kind

983
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: of hang their hat on. So yeah, I have a

984
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: lot of respect for Bram, but I would go under

985
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: if I had to two.

986
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: There's just not enough for me at quarterback there. And

987
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: I still think, you know, the defense overperformed, it could underperform.

988
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: You mentioned Crosby. They still were very reliant on him,

989
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, regardless of the situation. So I don't like.

990
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: I think the best thing you can say about them

991
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: is the schedule is not totally you know, too tough,

992
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: but I still make them like a short underdogs in

993
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: a lot of games. So yeah, I'm I'm still fading

994
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: the Raiders did the Broncos. Five and a half is

995
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 1: the win total minus one oh five to the over.

996
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: They're eighteen to one to win the division. This is

997
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: the interesting team because John Payton, you know, kind of

998
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: made something out of nothing with Wilson, kind of got

999
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: through the season after a really rough start. Defensively, with

1000
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: this team, defense should be better. The old line should

1001
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: be okay, you know, kind of middle of the pack.

1002
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe some upside, but uh, you know, I guess

1003
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: it comes down to bow Nicks really because I think

1004
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up getting the most starts on this

1005
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: on the squad. With that said, what do you think

1006
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: of what's your outlook for Denver here with this five

1007
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: and a half win total?

1008
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 2: H Yeah, this is a bad roster and yeah bo

1009
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: Nick stows him named the starter, but I assume he

1010
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: will be just not a very talented team and they

1011
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: didn't really do much because of that. Yeah, you know,

1012
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: look at in free agency they added because you're you're

1013
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: paying that Wilson money like bow Nicks, Stidham, Zach Wilson.

1014
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess bo Nicks can efficiently do some

1015
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 2: things in the Peyton just like Peyton holding his hand,

1016
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: us his legs, short passes, but just not a very

1017
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: talented ross of the defense. Also just kind of void

1018
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 2: of talent. Is is the marw mathis gonna start by

1019
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: the way?

1020
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so. I think it's got to be

1021
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: like wow, if or you know, I.

1022
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 2: Mean, Mosley Moss gonna start.

1023
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's not it can't be. It can't be

1024
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: by the way up and.

1025
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: Coming what's hot and not not as the Broncos quarterback situation,

1026
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: hot white corners. We haven't had a white corner start

1027
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 2: since two thousand and three in the NFL. Three chances

1028
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: this year, Riley Moss, Cooper, Dejean Philly and Honor is it. Yes, Yeah,

1029
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: there's a chance he might start. He's like rising up

1030
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 2: the depth chart and we'll get to the Dolphins next episode.

1031
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: But so I'll talk about that then. But three chances,

1032
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: so we'll see if we can get one this year.

1033
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, I look, I went under last year under

1034
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: eight and a half. Now it's five and a half.

1035
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: I think it's priced properly. If I had a bet it,

1036
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 2: i'd probably go under. But there's some of these teams

1037
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 2: that the division they're going to beat each other. Yeah,

1038
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: you just play proaba and a half super low for

1039
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: showing Payton coach team with the home field advantage like Denver.

1040
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: Keep in mind that Peyton has average ten point six

1041
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 2: wins in sixteen seasons as a head coach, never fewer

1042
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: than seven. So no interest in going under five and

1043
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: a half.

1044
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would lean by this team either. I

1045
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: would actually lean over on the five and a half.

1046
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: I think it's price pretty correctly, but I would lean

1047
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: over just because I think, you know, that's that's kind

1048
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: of a forgiving price where I do think the Raiders

1049
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: will struggle. I do think the Chargers will struggle, and

1050
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: you know, the Broncos at least they have like, you know,

1051
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: another quarterback in Stidham who is not you know, bottom

1052
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: of the barrel, terrible kind of like you feel like

1053
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: with the with O'Connell for the Raiders, So I think

1054
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: they could. They could. I think it's more likely they

1055
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: find themselves the six wins, then the Raiders and Chargers

1056
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 1: go go over there win total. But yeah, I agree,

1057
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: there's not They didn't. They couldn't. They were kind of

1058
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: hamstrung in free agency. In the draft, you know, they

1059
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: had to spend a pick on a quarterback. They ended

1060
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: up spending a pick on a running back. They couldn't

1061
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: do too much a free agency. So yeah, it's you're

1062
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: betting on Sean Payton, which is not a bad bet.

1063
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: But I do think the Broncos probably among the non

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Speaker 1: Chiefs teams in this divisions, they're probably the most underrated

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Speaker 1: just based on the market because I'm well on the

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Speaker 1: Chargers and I'm not feeling great about the Raiders either.

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Speaker 2: If you wanted to take a deep flyer in this division,

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Speaker 2: the only thing, the only thing that I could recommend,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not betting it myself, but the only thing

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Speaker 2: that I could recommend, The Chiefs are minus two thirty

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Speaker 2: Chargers plus three fifty Raiders plus nine hundred. The only

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Speaker 2: thing I could recommend is Broncos twenty twenty five to one,

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Speaker 2: and all your betting there is I think all the

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Speaker 2: three other teams are flawed, and then you're just betting that,

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Speaker 2: like if Mahomes gets hurt in like week two, I

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Speaker 2: would just take a fly on the Broncos because I

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Speaker 2: think all those teams are terrible and you're getting at

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five to one, where like if Momes is

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Speaker 2: out week one for the year, eight wins, seven wins

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Speaker 2: could win that division.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's it's long shot playoff

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Speaker 1: team maybe two, but that's yeah, it's this is this

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Speaker 1: is not a team I want to be investing too

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Speaker 1: much and then positively either. I'm just saying I just

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Speaker 1: think of the three non Chiefs teams, they're the most underrated.

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Speaker 1: But you know, let's let's wrap it up here to recap.

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Speaker 1: Stuck and I both are are bullish on the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: We like them to win the division. We like them

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Speaker 1: over the win total. Both bearish on the Chargers. I

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Speaker 1: like them to miss the playoffs. I like them to

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Speaker 1: go under their win total. And Stuck your alto a

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Speaker 1: little barish on on Ravens as well as am I.

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Speaker 1: But but the market has kind of come down on them.

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