Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey, Brightside, besties. Today we're talking to doctor
Speaker 1: Jen Ashton, ABC news chief medical correspondent and the founder
Speaker 1: of Agenda, a source for science backed medical information. Doctor
Speaker 1: Ashton is breaking down everything we need to know about menopause.
Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, June fourth.
Speaker 3: I am Simone Boyce, I'm Danielle Robe and this is
Speaker 3: the bright Side from Hello Sunshine. Well, today we're talking
Speaker 3: about menopause. And there have been a lot of high
Speaker 3: profile people talking about menopause recently. So when you probably
Speaker 3: saw the video of Halle Berry shouting I'm in menopause
Speaker 3: on the steps of the Capitol Yes, I finally realized
Speaker 3: she wasn't gonna say it, so I thought, Okay, I
Speaker 3: have to do what no man can do.
Speaker 1: I have to say it. I said, I'm in.
Speaker 2: Menopas Okay, Okay.
Speaker 3: I just love seeing one of the hottest women to
Speaker 3: walk planet Earth talking about men pause on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1: It's powerful. It's truly an iconic moment, Danielle. And also
Speaker 1: just this past week, Jennifer Aniston opened up about her
Speaker 1: experience with menopause. So in The Hollywood Reporter, she spoke
Speaker 1: about how she wished she had more information before going
Speaker 1: through it herself. She wished that we were all talking
Speaker 1: about it more so, Jennifer, we are giving you exactly
Speaker 1: what you asked for, Okay, to answer all of our
Speaker 1: burning questions about menopause, We're bringing in another Jennifer, doctor
Speaker 1: Jen Ashton. She's a double board certified physician in obstetrics
Speaker 1: and phanacology, and she's been a trusted adviser on women's
Speaker 1: health to patients and viewers for years. You know her
Speaker 1: as ABC's chief medical correspondent for the past thirteen years.
Speaker 3: She has literally been telling me what I need to
Speaker 3: know since COVID. I started following her career actually during COVID,
Speaker 3: and I watched so much of her coverage. She was
Speaker 3: such a voice of reason and I think she gave
Speaker 3: so many people comfort during that time.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: And the latest is she's actually leaving a at the
Speaker 1: end of June to focus all of her attention on
Speaker 1: a brand new venture. It's a new women's wellness company
Speaker 1: called Agenda. She launched Agenda with this free newsletter that
Speaker 1: brings a daily dose of health news, wellness tips, and
Speaker 1: resources straight to your inbox. And she's also about to
Speaker 1: expand it big time. Into a full digital media company
Speaker 1: with a lot more content on the way.
Speaker 3: Yep, and we're diving into it all and of course
Speaker 3: chatting menopause, what fitness regimen is best, what symptoms to
Speaker 3: look out for, and why the best loob may be
Speaker 3: on your.
Speaker 2: Grocery store shelves. It's all coming up.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, y'all. We're back, and we're here
Speaker 1: with doctor Jen Ashton. Welcome to the bright Side, doctor Ashton.
Speaker 2: Thanks, I'm so excited to be here with you.
Speaker 3: Guys, Doctor Ashton, you left your position at ABC to
Speaker 3: launch your new company Agenda. Now, to leave that position
Speaker 3: means that you must be very passionate about women's health.
Speaker 3: Where does your commitment to menopause education come from?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, thank you for your kind words,
Speaker 4: but also for recognizing the magnitude of that career and
Speaker 4: professional decision that I made, because no one gives up
Speaker 4: my position, you know, to do something else. And I
Speaker 4: became a doctor because I wanted to help people and
Speaker 4: have an impact.
Speaker 2: And I never in.
Speaker 4: A million years could have expected or dreamt that I
Speaker 4: would reach millions and millions of people every single day
Speaker 4: with the insight and analysis and perspective. That has been
Speaker 4: my job as chief medical correspondent at ABC, and in
Speaker 4: my mind, you know, the way I'm hardwired is to
Speaker 4: waigh up every day and face a challenge and continue
Speaker 4: to push boundaries and move the needle. And for me,
Speaker 4: I feel that the needle needs to be moved in
Speaker 4: the fields of women's health and obesity medicine, and that's
Speaker 4: why I started Agenda, which is my free newsletter. But
Speaker 4: it's going to be growing very very quickly to a
Speaker 4: whole digital platform and multimedia kind of entity that can
Speaker 4: provide a lot of important content and solutions for women.
Speaker 4: So I'm really excited about it.
Speaker 3: Simon and I have been in women's spaces, in particular
Speaker 3: in the realm of journalism for years, and I think
Speaker 3: we're both recognizing that the conversation on women's bodies and
Speaker 3: research over the last few years is finally expanding, I
Speaker 3: think in large part due to women like you who
Speaker 3: are making it important to people. Why do you think
Speaker 3: menopause just hasn't really been talked about in the cultural
Speaker 3: zeitgeist until the last few years.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I think we can all do
Speaker 4: like a standing ovation that it finally is being talked about,
Speaker 4: and there are a lot of great people that are
Speaker 4: talking about it today. I just feel lucky to be
Speaker 4: one of them. There's more than enough room for a
Speaker 4: lot of people in this space, and so we do
Speaker 4: need a lot of messengers and good communicators.
Speaker 2: But I think that the reason it.
Speaker 4: Hasn't had its moment until now, if you really want
Speaker 4: to know, and I would love to hear your opinions
Speaker 4: on this, I think it's because of the societal way that,
Speaker 4: unfortunately women are viewed, which is largely as a passive
Speaker 4: kind of victim and largely as just a human being
Speaker 4: with reproductive currency.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the same goes for some non binary folks
Speaker 1: and trans women too. There are so many factors when
Speaker 1: it comes to why we haven't felt comfortable talking about menopause.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy we get to talk about this with
Speaker 1: you because we want to get into the nitty gritty
Speaker 1: of the physiological processes that take place during menopause. So
Speaker 1: what happens to our bodies during menopause and can you
Speaker 1: break down those systems for us?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the short answer is our estrogen and progesterone go
Speaker 4: right down the toilet and there are literally estrogen and
Speaker 4: progesterone receptors all over our bodies head to toe, from
Speaker 4: skin and hair follicles to our brain, to our heart,
Speaker 4: to literally every organ system. And that can happen very suddenly.
Speaker 4: It's not like a slow, peaceful, gradual walk off into
Speaker 4: the sunset. And it can start. It can start in
Speaker 4: a woman's mid thirties, mid thirties.
Speaker 1: And that's perimenopause. Yeah, that's perimenopause.
Speaker 2: I'm glad.
Speaker 3: I was sitting down for that, doctor Ashton, you had
Speaker 3: me I talk for.
Speaker 5: A living and I was a little speechless.
Speaker 4: Well, I heard like a lot of sighing and deep breathing,
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my god, are you okay?
Speaker 2: And it took me a minute.
Speaker 1: I couldn't respond at first. Yeah, I kind of have kids,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: And so that's like, there's so much here.
Speaker 4: And I think that when you take that physiology and
Speaker 4: then you put that in an arena or an environment
Speaker 4: where at baseline we know that women tend to be
Speaker 4: taken less seriously by physicians. This is just like the
Speaker 4: medical system and how we deal with women, and by
Speaker 4: the way, also how we deal with ourselves.
Speaker 2: Don't even get me started.
Speaker 4: I could give you three examples of my own life
Speaker 4: where I've dismissed and ignored and denied physical symptoms that
Speaker 4: I'm having.
Speaker 2: And I'm a doctor for con so like, this is
Speaker 2: just what we do.
Speaker 4: And then when you realize the actual physiology, you're like,
Speaker 4: oh my god.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned two key hormones, estrogen and progesterone. Both
Speaker 1: of them play a pivotal role in reproduction. Can you
Speaker 1: explain how these hormones factor into the lead up to menopause.
Speaker 4: Well, it's complicated, right, It depends on the organ system
Speaker 4: what the effects are.
Speaker 2: But you know, it increases blood flow.
Speaker 4: Let's just take estrogen to the skin, right, or to
Speaker 4: the vagina, to the vaginal mucosa, or to the skin
Speaker 4: on your face, or to the hair follicles on your head.
Speaker 4: It brings blood flow to the area and it makes
Speaker 4: the tissue, whatever tissue you're talking about, stronger, more vibrant.
Speaker 4: And in terms of the uterus, it stimulates the lining
Speaker 4: of the uterus to receive a fertilized egg and it
Speaker 4: does that every single month, right, And then progesterone dilates
Speaker 4: blood vessels. It's very import to the brain. It's kind
Speaker 4: of the calming down hormone. It has a big action
Speaker 4: in your GI tract in terms of gut motility. And
Speaker 4: then we can't forget that our ovaries make fifty percent
Speaker 4: five zero percent of the testosterone in our bodies. So
Speaker 4: as we get closer and closer to menopause, and every woman,
Speaker 4: and I literally I want to underscore, every woman will
Speaker 4: start to say, what the hell is going on? I'm
Speaker 4: gaining like this paunch in my belly and that that
Speaker 4: could be.
Speaker 2: One pound of paunch or it could be ten pounds
Speaker 2: of punge.
Speaker 4: And the part of the reason for that is that
Speaker 4: their testosterone level is dropping.
Speaker 1: Evolutionarily speaking, what's the reason for the paune? Is it
Speaker 1: to protect the organs?
Speaker 4: No, you know, that's a great question. I love the
Speaker 4: way you're thinking about it. But we have to remember
Speaker 4: that if you really look back to evolution, women didn't
Speaker 4: live long enough to go through menopause.
Speaker 1: WHOA does that mean that menopause is an adaptation that
Speaker 1: we developed later on? Like where did menopause itself come from?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, first of all, I am not I
Speaker 4: always think it's a mark of a good doctor to
Speaker 4: say what he or she knows and what they don't know,
Speaker 4: and I'm not an evolutionary biologist. I would love to
Speaker 4: interview one myself, and I love the way you're thinking
Speaker 4: about it, because I agree with you it's incredibly cool
Speaker 4: and interesting to ponder that.
Speaker 2: But human beings are.
Speaker 4: Among the only species on Earth that go through that
Speaker 4: stop ovulating and then continue to live a significant.
Speaker 2: Span of their life.
Speaker 4: Most mammals can reproduce up until the point that they die,
Speaker 4: Thank God, can't I mean, thanks.
Speaker 6: God, literally get a little break there, yeah, I mean, geez, Okay,
Speaker 6: So anyway, But the other thing, the other flip side
Speaker 6: of your questioning, which I think is really really important,
Speaker 6: is that you know, one hundred and one hundred and
Speaker 6: fifty and two hundred years ago, quite literally, women didn't
Speaker 6: live past menopause.
Speaker 4: Really right now, you could live to one hundred right.
Speaker 4: My daughter is twenty four years old. Her life expectancy
Speaker 4: could easily be one hundred right. So for her, if
Speaker 4: she goes through menopause at fifty, she has half her
Speaker 4: life still ahead of her. And there's a lot about
Speaker 4: that second half that we just don't have hundreds of
Speaker 4: years of scientific or evolutionary data on which I think
Speaker 4: is exciting but I also think we need to recognize
Speaker 4: menopause is a life stage reserved for the lucky few
Speaker 4: who are still living.
Speaker 1: I love that framing.
Speaker 3: I love that we're going to take a quick break,
Speaker 3: don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: We're back with doctor Jen Ashton. Let's get into some
Speaker 1: of the more common symptoms of menopause, Doctor Ashton, How
Speaker 1: does our body tell us that we're in menopause? What
Speaker 1: are some of the early signs.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, as I used to say to a
Speaker 4: lot of my patients, the hallmark one is vaginal bleeding.
Speaker 4: It's menstrual bleeding. And it could be irregular periods, and
Speaker 4: that could be you know, longer, shorter, more irregular. It
Speaker 4: could be literally any type of change from your baseline
Speaker 4: bleeding pattern. Right, that's your hormones. Like holding up a
Speaker 4: sign saying hello, this is a perimenopausal symptom. And it's
Speaker 4: so obvious because you're literally going to see it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: The other ones, though, I think, are they may be
Speaker 4: more common. They are probably more distressing on some level.
Speaker 4: I know they were for me personally, and they are
Speaker 4: are almost always underrecognized, even by other medical professionals. And
Speaker 4: if you start head to toe that could literally be anxiety, depression,
Speaker 4: emotional liability, brain.
Speaker 2: Fog, headaches.
Speaker 4: I mean change in your hair on your head, thinning,
Speaker 4: more shedding of hair, more breakage of hair, dry eye,
Speaker 4: dry mouth, like ringing in your ears. I mean it
Speaker 4: literally could be head to toe musculo skeletal discomfort. The
Speaker 4: hot flash, which is like the most glorified menopausal symptom,
Speaker 4: doesn't always mean drenched sweat. Sometimes it's just a feeling
Speaker 4: of like heat that comes right up from your core
Speaker 4: and like lasts for a couple of seconds or minutes
Speaker 4: and then disappears.
Speaker 2: You know, I started.
Speaker 4: Getting random musculo skeletal aches, and I thought it was
Speaker 4: just from working out, you know, hard or whatever.
Speaker 2: And I didn't connect the dots on my.
Speaker 4: Own symptoms until literally like a year ago. And I'm
Speaker 4: a board certified guynecologist. So I think you can imagine
Speaker 4: if this starts for a woman in her thirties, there's
Speaker 4: almost no chance that her main healthcare provider is going
Speaker 4: to recognize that these could be early perimenopausal symptoms. Can
Speaker 4: I ask you a personal question, sure, how did you
Speaker 4: feel when you started going through menopause?
Speaker 2: What was running through your mind?
Speaker 4: Well? I actually if I hadn't been so busy, I
Speaker 4: would have thrown myself a menopause party. And I literally
Speaker 4: mean that because I freaking hated my period so much.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you.
Speaker 4: Something that I didn't feel so good about is I
Speaker 4: started to see literally visual changes in my skin, in
Speaker 4: my hair, in my body that you know, were not
Speaker 4: fun to recognize. And I think it required a lot
Speaker 4: of kind like self dialogue and saying, look, this is
Speaker 4: the privilege that you're alive and going through this stage.
Speaker 4: And then I really tried to actively connect the dots
Speaker 4: between menopause and how I felt when I was pregnant
Speaker 4: with my children, and I even tried to, you know,
Speaker 4: retrieve some of the feelings of going through puberty. None
Speaker 4: of those big stages are totally fun, right, Like, I
Speaker 4: don't care what kind of pregnancy a woman has. There's
Speaker 4: a time for every woman who's been pregnant where she's like,
Speaker 4: oh my god.
Speaker 2: Like this is not pretty.
Speaker 1: Did you feel that month nine, right, get this baby
Speaker 1: out month eight even like I'm done?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And then also what you look like and feel like afterwards,
Speaker 4: you know, you have to engage in that nice self talk,
Speaker 4: right like, after you've had a baby, you have to
Speaker 4: be like, Okay, you know, you just grew a human, like,
Speaker 4: don't be such a perfect you know like, And I
Speaker 4: felt I had to draw on a lot of that
Speaker 4: as I started to go through menopause too.
Speaker 1: Positive self talk, reimagining it as a superpower as opposed
Speaker 1: to a flaw. That's something that's wrong with your body,
Speaker 1: for sure, Totally we need you to tell it like
Speaker 1: it is on menopausal sex. Okay, we have come all right,
Speaker 1: we have come to that point in the conversation, ladies.
Speaker 1: So I love it. I've heard about vaginal dryness. I've
Speaker 1: heard that menopause can cause discomfort and also a significant
Speaker 1: impact on desire around sex. So what are some of
Speaker 1: the common questions that you get asked about sexual health
Speaker 1: in the years leading up to and during menopause.
Speaker 4: Well, it's not so much a question, it's more statements,
Speaker 4: And you hit the nails right on the head. It's
Speaker 4: a statement of either I have no libido, and usually
Speaker 4: that's a woman who's been in a monogamous relationship for
Speaker 4: twenty or twenty five years, to which I say, like,
Speaker 4: why are you shocked by that? That's not a normal, Like,
Speaker 4: it's not natural for two human beings to be together
Speaker 4: for twenty five years. So first of all, recognize that
Speaker 4: you've already done something that's you know, defies the norm,
Speaker 4: and then be cut yourself some slack. I would start
Speaker 4: from a position of saying like, yeah, of course I
Speaker 4: don't have a libido. I've been with the same person
Speaker 4: for twenty five years.
Speaker 2: Right, So I think the answer to.
Speaker 4: That, other than get a divorce or have an affair,
Speaker 4: is as their work, yeah, right, is to bring something
Speaker 4: new into the equation, because that's the cure for boredom. Right.
Speaker 4: So you know, some women find some relief with some
Speaker 4: testosterone supplementation. There is an FDA approved libido medication for
Speaker 4: women that gives an additional one satisfying sexual encounter a month. Personally,
Speaker 4: if that is worth it for you, go for it.
Speaker 4: But I don't consider that a big bang for the
Speaker 4: wood pardon the pun, literally one one additional.
Speaker 1: It's almost insulting. It is the vaginal dryness.
Speaker 4: We can cure, and we can address whether it's with estrogen,
Speaker 4: whether it's with vaginal estrogen. I always recommend literally pure
Speaker 4: from the grocery store aisle cooking oils as lubes because.
Speaker 1: Everything else, like like cooking, vegetable oil, canola oil.
Speaker 2: Coconut oil, olive oil. You better believe it.
Speaker 4: The only thing is be careful of your sheets because
Speaker 4: obviously it can stain your sheets, but it is safe.
Speaker 4: And all the other lubricants, literally all of them, with
Speaker 4: any chemical ingredient is like putting ice on a crapped driveway.
Speaker 4: It will dry out your vagina ultimately, even if it
Speaker 4: makes that initial encounter more comfortable, and it doesn't treat
Speaker 4: the root cause, which is low estrogen, which makes the
Speaker 4: vagina very sensitive and nonpliable.
Speaker 1: Did you know you can use coconut oil as.
Speaker 2: Lub I didn't.
Speaker 3: I've heard of people using it in their hair. But
Speaker 3: I have to tell you, doctor Ashton, not once have
Speaker 3: we been taping this show where Simona and I kind
Speaker 3: of casually look at each other like.
Speaker 1: Whoa, oh, you've blown our minds times over today. Oh
Speaker 1: good yew our minds, but a mission accomplished.
Speaker 3: I want to actually ask about hormone therapy because this
Speaker 3: is a big topic of conversation around people going through
Speaker 3: menopause or perimenopause.
Speaker 2: Do you recommend it.
Speaker 4: Yes, But here's what I want to say about HRT.
Speaker 4: First of all, I take HRT myself. I think the
Speaker 4: vast majority of women who are having menopausal symptoms would
Speaker 4: benefit from hormone replacement therapy. It has been demonized for
Speaker 4: the last twenty two years erroneously so because of flawed
Speaker 4: data with the Women's Health Initiative and flawed interpretation of
Speaker 4: that study that we're still doing the cleanup on and
Speaker 4: a lot of those initial kind of findings have been
Speaker 4: retracted or disproven conclusively.
Speaker 2: By the way.
Speaker 4: So I think that you know, only four percent of
Speaker 4: women who are suffering with menopausal symptoms in the United
Speaker 4: States are prescribed hormonal therapy. Four Even if that became
Speaker 4: forty percent, that would be a huge, huge improvement, right.
Speaker 4: But there are also non hormonal prescription medications that are
Speaker 4: great options, and there are complementary medications or products. So
Speaker 4: it's like a menu of options, and it's not one
Speaker 4: size fits all. And I think that women should just
Speaker 4: keep educating themselves because a lot of doctors, unfortunately are
Speaker 4: not current in the medical literature and so they might
Speaker 4: be anti hormone and they don't need to be.
Speaker 1: I want to pivot into fitness here for a second.
Speaker 1: I know that you are a fitness girly as well,
Speaker 1: doctor Ashton, and so I know that there are some
Speaker 1: thoughts out there on hit workouts and women's bodies, that
Speaker 1: it's potentially not good for worms bodies. I do it anyways.
Speaker 1: I do it in moderation. I'm curious if you think
Speaker 1: that there are any exercises that we should be moving
Speaker 1: away from in as we're moving towards perimenopause and menopause.
Speaker 1: How have you shifted your fitness routine.
Speaker 4: I love talking about fitness, so I'm so glad you
Speaker 4: asked about it, and I've learned a lot about it
Speaker 4: from talking to professional trainers. But yes, women should shift
Speaker 4: how they work out the closer they get to menopause,
Speaker 4: but they ideally should start doing that even in their thirties.
Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is that you know,
Speaker 4: for so long I only did two types of workouts,
Speaker 4: long cardio or weight training. Now they're both great, right,
Speaker 4: But as you know, as someone who likes to work
Speaker 4: out under the umbrella of cardio, there's zone two cardio,
Speaker 4: there's endurance cardio, there's hit cardio, and they're all important, right.
Speaker 4: I will say that if I had to say one
Speaker 4: single most important fitness kind of tool that women even
Speaker 4: in their thirties should start preparing their bodies for.
Speaker 2: It's lifting weights and lifting heavyweights.
Speaker 4: You know, I have the body I have today half
Speaker 4: because of my genetics and of the other fifty percent,
Speaker 4: probably forty eight percent of that is because I've lifted
Speaker 4: weights my entire life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, muscle. You prioritize muscle.
Speaker 2: Muscle, Yeah, muscle.
Speaker 4: And I'm going for strength and I'm going for power
Speaker 4: and to be vain by the way, which you know
Speaker 4: we all have our vanity. I certainly have plenty of it.
Speaker 4: This is a safe space, thank you. My goal is
Speaker 4: to have big muscles to hold up the creepy skin.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Like when I go to the gym, I
Speaker 4: pick up twenty pound dumbbells in each hand. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: I try to curl them as many times as I can.
Speaker 4: And maybe that's four each, maybe that's five. I don't
Speaker 4: really care, but I'm curling twenty pounds in each hand.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on the support people receive from
Speaker 3: family and friends and partners during menopause, because I've heard
Speaker 3: you talk about how men need to be a part
Speaker 3: of men.
Speaker 4: No pause, Yeah, absolutely, and it's something that has been
Speaker 4: missing from this conversation so far. I've been wanting to
Speaker 4: write an article for a long time called Menopause. It
Speaker 4: actually starts with men Revolutionary.
Speaker 1: I need to know what you mean because.
Speaker 4: There are crickets when it comes to this conversation that
Speaker 4: you don't see any male gynecologists talking about it. Okay,
Speaker 4: there are plenty of them. Why why so quiet?
Speaker 2: Great point?
Speaker 4: Why so timid? Like you're either for women's health or
Speaker 4: you're not. This is a big part of women's health.
Speaker 4: If you're a man and you're an obgyn, why aren't
Speaker 4: you talking about menopause?
Speaker 1: Do you think they feel scared in this environment, like
Speaker 1: they like it's not their story to tell, And maybe
Speaker 1: we as women need to support make them feel controversial
Speaker 1: and empowered to talk about it.
Speaker 4: Yes, but again, this can't just be a one sided conversation.
Speaker 4: This has to be everyone filled the boat, all hands
Speaker 4: on deck, and not just because that's like smart pr
Speaker 4: or smart optics, it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: Can I add one more to the list. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: calling on Hollywood to give us our first menopausal action hero.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, I thought you were gonna say rom com
Speaker 3: but I like action hero.
Speaker 1: I want an action hero because I want to see
Speaker 1: a strong ass woman who's going through menopause and who
Speaker 1: is you know, lifting her weights in the gym. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe she's fighting crime, maybe she's maybe she's
Speaker 1: fighting all the mail.
Speaker 2: Would be amazing.
Speaker 5: Yes, Marvel goes menopause. Yes, well, listen, I'm working on that, ladies.
Speaker 5: I want to tell you because part of agenda is
Speaker 5: developing television and media context. I will break the story
Speaker 5: on your podcast, but I am pitching for development. Some
Speaker 5: both scripted and unscript did in the menopause perimenopause space.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to get it done. I mean, I
Speaker 2: am like, I'm not giving up.
Speaker 3: You're the type of person and woman that when they
Speaker 3: put their minds to something, it happens. So I have
Speaker 3: no doubt. I'm excited to I'll be at the first
Speaker 3: screening same.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Awesome, awesome, Thank you so much for the education and
Speaker 3: for talking with us today.
Speaker 1: Doctor Ashton.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you guys are great.
Speaker 4: You guys are doing really great work, and you're getting
Speaker 4: not just good answers out to people, but you're asking
Speaker 4: the right questions, which I think is super cool and
Speaker 4: super important.
Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that.
Speaker 1: Doctor Jen Ashton is a physician, Emmy Award winning journalist
Speaker 1: and the founder of Agenda. You can find her on
Speaker 1: Instagram at doctor j Ashton. That's it for today's show.
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow with Kathleen Griffith to talk about
Speaker 1: entrepreneurship and her new book, Build Like a Woman. Tune
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