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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey, Brightside, besties. Today we're talking to doctor

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Speaker 1: Jen Ashton, ABC news chief medical correspondent and the founder

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Speaker 1: of Agenda, a source for science backed medical information. Doctor

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Speaker 1: Ashton is breaking down everything we need to know about menopause.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, June fourth.

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Speaker 3: I am Simone Boyce, I'm Danielle Robe and this is

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Speaker 3: the bright Side from Hello Sunshine. Well, today we're talking

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Speaker 3: about menopause. And there have been a lot of high

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Speaker 3: profile people talking about menopause recently. So when you probably

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Speaker 3: saw the video of Halle Berry shouting I'm in menopause

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Speaker 3: on the steps of the Capitol Yes, I finally realized

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Speaker 3: she wasn't gonna say it, so I thought, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: have to do what no man can do.

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Speaker 1: I have to say it. I said, I'm in.

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Speaker 2: Menopas Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I just love seeing one of the hottest women to

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Speaker 3: walk planet Earth talking about men pause on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 1: It's powerful. It's truly an iconic moment, Danielle. And also

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Speaker 1: just this past week, Jennifer Aniston opened up about her

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Speaker 1: experience with menopause. So in The Hollywood Reporter, she spoke

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Speaker 1: about how she wished she had more information before going

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Speaker 1: through it herself. She wished that we were all talking

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Speaker 1: about it more so, Jennifer, we are giving you exactly

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Speaker 1: what you asked for, Okay, to answer all of our

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Speaker 1: burning questions about menopause, We're bringing in another Jennifer, doctor

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Speaker 1: Jen Ashton. She's a double board certified physician in obstetrics

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Speaker 1: and phanacology, and she's been a trusted adviser on women's

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Speaker 1: health to patients and viewers for years. You know her

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Speaker 1: as ABC's chief medical correspondent for the past thirteen years.

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Speaker 3: She has literally been telling me what I need to

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Speaker 3: know since COVID. I started following her career actually during COVID,

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Speaker 3: and I watched so much of her coverage. She was

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Speaker 3: such a voice of reason and I think she gave

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Speaker 3: so many people comfort during that time.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And the latest is she's actually leaving a at the

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Speaker 1: end of June to focus all of her attention on

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Speaker 1: a brand new venture. It's a new women's wellness company

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Speaker 1: called Agenda. She launched Agenda with this free newsletter that

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Speaker 1: brings a daily dose of health news, wellness tips, and

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Speaker 1: resources straight to your inbox. And she's also about to

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Speaker 1: expand it big time. Into a full digital media company

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Speaker 1: with a lot more content on the way.

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Speaker 3: Yep, and we're diving into it all and of course

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Speaker 3: chatting menopause, what fitness regimen is best, what symptoms to

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Speaker 3: look out for, and why the best loob may be

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Speaker 3: on your.

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Speaker 2: Grocery store shelves. It's all coming up.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back, y'all. We're back, and we're here

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Speaker 1: with doctor Jen Ashton. Welcome to the bright Side, doctor Ashton.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, I'm so excited to be here with you.

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Speaker 3: Guys, Doctor Ashton, you left your position at ABC to

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Speaker 3: launch your new company Agenda. Now, to leave that position

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Speaker 3: means that you must be very passionate about women's health.

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Speaker 3: Where does your commitment to menopause education come from?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, thank you for your kind words,

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Speaker 4: but also for recognizing the magnitude of that career and

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Speaker 4: professional decision that I made, because no one gives up

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Speaker 4: my position, you know, to do something else. And I

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Speaker 4: have an impact.

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Speaker 2: And I never in.

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Speaker 4: A million years could have expected or dreamt that I

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Speaker 4: would reach millions and millions of people every single day

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Speaker 4: with the insight and analysis and perspective. That has been

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Speaker 4: my job as chief medical correspondent at ABC, and in

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Speaker 4: waigh up every day and face a challenge and continue

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Speaker 4: I feel that the needle needs to be moved in

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Speaker 4: the fields of women's health and obesity medicine, and that's

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Speaker 4: why I started Agenda, which is my free newsletter. But

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Speaker 4: it's going to be growing very very quickly to a

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Speaker 4: whole digital platform and multimedia kind of entity that can

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Speaker 4: So I'm really excited about it.

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Speaker 3: Simon and I have been in women's spaces, in particular

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Speaker 3: think in large part due to women like you who

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Speaker 3: are making it important to people. Why do you think

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Speaker 3: menopause just hasn't really been talked about in the cultural

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I think we can all do

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Speaker 2: But I think that the reason it.

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Speaker 4: Hasn't had its moment until now, if you really want

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Speaker 4: on this, I think it's because of the societal way that,

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy we get to talk about this with

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Speaker 1: of the physiological processes that take place during menopause. So

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Speaker 1: what happens to our bodies during menopause and can you

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Speaker 1: break down those systems for us?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the short answer is our estrogen and progesterone go

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Speaker 4: to literally every organ system. And that can happen very suddenly.

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Speaker 4: It's not like a slow, peaceful, gradual walk off into

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Speaker 1: And that's perimenopause. Yeah, that's perimenopause.

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Speaker 3: I was sitting down for that, doctor Ashton, you had

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Speaker 5: A living and I was a little speechless.

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Speaker 4: Well, I heard like a lot of sighing and deep breathing,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my god, are you okay?

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Speaker 2: And it took me a minute.

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Speaker 2: And so that's like, there's so much here.

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Speaker 4: And I think that when you take that physiology and

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Speaker 2: Don't even get me started.

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Speaker 4: I could give you three examples of my own life

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Speaker 2: And I'm a doctor for con so like, this is

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Speaker 4: And then when you realize the actual physiology, you're like,

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned two key hormones, estrogen and progesterone. Both

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Speaker 1: of them play a pivotal role in reproduction. Can you

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Speaker 1: explain how these hormones factor into the lead up to menopause.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's complicated, right, It depends on the organ system

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Speaker 4: what the effects are.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it increases blood flow.

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Speaker 4: Let's just take estrogen to the skin, right, or to

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Speaker 4: It brings blood flow to the area and it makes

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Speaker 4: And in terms of the uterus, it stimulates the lining

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Speaker 4: does that every single month, right, And then progesterone dilates

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Speaker 4: of the calming down hormone. It has a big action

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Speaker 4: then we can't forget that our ovaries make fifty percent

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Speaker 4: and I literally I want to underscore, every woman will

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Speaker 4: start to say, what the hell is going on? I'm

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Speaker 4: And the part of the reason for that is that

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Speaker 1: Evolutionarily speaking, what's the reason for the paune? Is it

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Speaker 4: No, you know, that's a great question. I love the

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Speaker 4: that if you really look back to evolution, women didn't

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Speaker 1: WHOA does that mean that menopause is an adaptation that

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Speaker 1: we developed later on? Like where did menopause itself come from?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, first of all, I am not I

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Speaker 4: and I'm not an evolutionary biologist. I would love to

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Speaker 2: But human beings are.

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Speaker 4: Among the only species on Earth that go through that

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Speaker 2: Span of their life.

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Speaker 4: Most mammals can reproduce up until the point that they die,

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Speaker 6: So anyway, But the other thing, the other flip side

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Speaker 6: of your questioning, which I think is really really important,

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Speaker 6: is that you know, one hundred and one hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty and two hundred years ago, quite literally, women didn't

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Speaker 4: Really right now, you could live to one hundred right.

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Speaker 4: My daughter is twenty four years old. Her life expectancy

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Speaker 4: could easily be one hundred right. So for her, if

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Speaker 4: that second half that we just don't have hundreds of

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Speaker 4: years of scientific or evolutionary data on which I think

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Speaker 4: is exciting but I also think we need to recognize

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Speaker 4: who are still living.

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Speaker 1: I love that framing.

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Speaker 3: don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: We're back with doctor Jen Ashton. Let's get into some

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Speaker 1: of the more common symptoms of menopause, Doctor Ashton, How

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Speaker 1: does our body tell us that we're in menopause? What

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Speaker 1: are some of the early signs.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, as I used to say to a

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Speaker 4: lot of my patients, the hallmark one is vaginal bleeding.

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Speaker 4: It's menstrual bleeding. And it could be irregular periods, and

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Speaker 4: that could be you know, longer, shorter, more irregular. It

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Speaker 4: could be literally any type of change from your baseline

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Speaker 4: bleeding pattern. Right, that's your hormones. Like holding up a

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Speaker 4: sign saying hello, this is a perimenopausal symptom. And it's

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Speaker 4: so obvious because you're literally going to see it.

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Speaker 1: It's almost insulting. It is the vaginal dryness.

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Speaker 4: And all the other lubricants, literally all of them, with

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Speaker 1: Whoa, oh, you've blown our minds times over today. Oh

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Speaker 3: I want to actually ask about hormone therapy because this

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Speaker 2: Do you recommend it.

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Speaker 1: I know that you are a fitness girly as well,

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Speaker 4: You know, I have the body I have today half

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Speaker 1: Yeah, muscle. You prioritize muscle.

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Speaker 4: And I'm going for strength and I'm going for power

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Speaker 4: This is a safe space, thank you. My goal is

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Like when I go to the gym, I

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Speaker 4: I try to curl them as many times as I can.

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Speaker 4: And maybe that's four each, maybe that's five. I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on the support people receive from

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Speaker 4: No pause, Yeah, absolutely, and it's something that has been

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Speaker 1: I need to know what you mean because.

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Speaker 4: There are crickets when it comes to this conversation that

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Speaker 4: there are plenty of them. Why why so quiet?

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Speaker 4: Why so timid? Like you're either for women's health or

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Speaker 1: Do you think they feel scared in this environment, like

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Speaker 4: Yes, but again, this can't just be a one sided conversation.

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Speaker 4: This has to be everyone filled the boat, all hands

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Speaker 1: Can I add one more to the list. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: I want an action hero because I want to see

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Speaker 2: Would be amazing.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Marvel goes menopause. Yes, well, listen, I'm working on that, ladies.

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Speaker 5: I want to tell you because part of agenda is

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Speaker 5: on your podcast, but I am pitching for development. Some

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to get it done. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: You're the type of person and woman that when they

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Speaker 3: put their minds to something, it happens. So I have

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Speaker 3: no doubt. I'm excited to I'll be at the first

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Speaker 3: screening same.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, awesome, Thank you so much for the education and

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Speaker 3: for talking with us today.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Ashton.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you guys are great.

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Speaker 4: You guys are doing really great work, and you're getting

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Speaker 4: not just good answers out to people, but you're asking

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Speaker 4: the right questions, which I think is super cool and

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Speaker 4: super important.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Jen Ashton is a physician, Emmy Award winning journalist

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Speaker 1: and the founder of Agenda. You can find her on

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Speaker 1: Instagram at doctor j Ashton. That's it for today's show.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow with Kathleen Griffith to talk about

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Speaker 1: entrepreneurship and her new book, Build Like a Woman. Tune

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Speaker 1: into the Brightside on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts.

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Speaker 4: Y'all.

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Speaker 1: I'm Simone Voice. You can find me at simone Voice

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Speaker 1: on Instagram and TikTok.

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Speaker 3: I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok.

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Speaker 2: That's r O b A.

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Speaker 1: Y See you tomorrow, folks. Keep looking on the bright side.