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Speaker 1: I am surprised fairly frequently in sports. Mildly surprised. I'm

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Speaker 1: as a bit of a jaw dropper. I mean, let

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Speaker 1: we're left with three offensive coaches, no pure defensive coaches

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Speaker 1: again at the end of the season. And Harball is

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Speaker 1: not used. They bailed on the run. Isaiah Lively terrific

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Speaker 1: know what they are in big games. But the story

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Speaker 1: of this game, and I know Chiefs fans want credit,

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Speaker 1: what was that game plan? It didn't make sense for

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Speaker 1: And it's not like Gus Edwards as a backup running

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a Harbaugh fan, Jim and John, but

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Speaker 1: to make of it. Like younger teams do lose their

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Speaker 1: composure that happens, Lamar should not be making that throw

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Speaker 1: down coaching mismatch. Three offensive coaches left. Again. I know

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Speaker 1: But the coaching staff for Baltimore has to look in

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Speaker 1: lot of this game. The Baltimore coaching staff just said, Lamar,

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Speaker 1: thought he was a two. But again, an offensive coach,

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Speaker 1: the soft, velvety touch, improving Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes, I

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Speaker 1: thought trusted his offensive tackles more. Today, Notice how Kansas

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Speaker 1: City just keeps getting better offensively, more refined sandpaper, the

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the difference between the great offensive coaches,

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Speaker 1: And again, it's one thing to lose that you got

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Speaker 1: you're not giving Kansas City credit. No, they are a champion, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what was my homes at one point thirteen

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Speaker 1: by the way, I'll never bet against Kansas City again.

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Speaker 1: You just you know, the spark plugs aren't all firing.

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Speaker 1: excited for Kansas City. This isn't all dumping on Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: It's not just the heart of a champion. That's a cliche.

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Speaker 1: first incompletion, second quarter, next time, third down, Kelsey catch, Wow,

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Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty one Niners, second super Bowl in

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Speaker 1: five seasons. Overcame a seventeen point lead. So Dan Campbell's

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Speaker 1: gonna get you know, barbecued because of his play calling.

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Speaker 1: looks like Shanahan said, listen, don't don't be afraid to move. Okay,

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Speaker 2: four or five years, right, it was a huge deal

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Speaker 2: the Niners. I thought, listen this game. They're in major trouble,

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Speaker 2: Very mature guy. I mean, he's engaged at twenty three,

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Speaker 2: pressure and things just it's football. Things don't go as planned.

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Speaker 2: You need to be able to make some plays with

425
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Speaker 2: your legs. Jared Goff just cannot. Kirk Cousins cannot. And

426
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Speaker 2: that is one element that Kyle, who likes Kyle, would

427
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Speaker 2: like Jared Goff. But there is an element of having

428
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Speaker 2: just an athletic quarterback. You don't need to be Lamar Jackson.

429
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Speaker 2: You just need to be able to move.

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Speaker 1: That's why they drafted Trey Lambs. They so Brock gives

431
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Speaker 1: them that. And it's funny when they got Trey Lance,

432
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Speaker 1: what I had heard in the building was he's not

433
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Speaker 1: as athletic as we thought.

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Speaker 2: No, he's slow. And that's you know, there are always

435
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Speaker 2: a thing in scouting about time, speed or athletic ability.

436
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: If you went to watch a guy play basketball or

437
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Speaker 2: a guy at the combine, you know, the combines in

438
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Speaker 2: a month or whatever, all these guys run fast forty times.

439
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: And then there are guys like Saint Brown, who I

440
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 2: don't know what his forty time is, but he plays

441
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Speaker 2: really fast Deebo runs a four or five five, we'll

442
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Speaker 2: put the ball in his hands. No one catches him. Right.

443
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: So I don't know what brock Purty runs, but I

444
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Speaker 2: know when he scrambles or when he moves behind the pocket,

445
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Speaker 2: he moves fast enough to get away from some guys.

446
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Speaker 2: Now he can't run away from everybody, but his play

447
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: speed is really good. And this gets back to instincts

448
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 2: and to me, instinctive football players. The Lions have a

449
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 2: lot of them, you know, I mean they really do.

450
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Speaker 2: They have a fast team, so do the forty nine ers.

451
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Speaker 2: Fred Warner plays really fast and Drake Greenlaw played really

452
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Speaker 2: fast because they're instinctive players. I mean, they're good athletes.

453
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: But when you can read and you know what's coming,

454
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Speaker 2: I mean, these players in the NFL have been talking

455
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Speaker 2: about this the history since I've been alive, about knowing

456
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: what's coming, preparing it helps you play faster. And then

457
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 2: there's the upper level of like the truly great instinctive players,

458
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Speaker 2: and obviously the forty nine ers are full of them, right,

459
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Speaker 2: I mean they just are from Kittle to Deebo to

460
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Speaker 2: I think their coach, you know, when he gets in

461
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Speaker 2: a rhythm, Kyle's weird, right. Ben Johnson has just been

462
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Speaker 2: red hot all season long. Kyle can have game for

463
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: you feel like got it? What's he doing? And then

464
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: today it just kind of flipped and then he got

465
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Speaker 2: his mojo and the rest was history.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he tends to get a little tied to his script,

467
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Speaker 1: and I think what happened today John is he did

468
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Speaker 1: against Green Bay. He kind of gets stuck to his

469
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Speaker 1: script because you know, he's a smart guy and thinks

470
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Speaker 1: my script's better than your script. We're staying with it today.

471
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Speaker 1: He didn't have a choice, No, he had. They had

472
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Speaker 1: a couple of tachos. Yeah, yeah, I mean when you're

473
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Speaker 1: they So they got lucky with with Dan Campbell's recklessness.

474
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Speaker 1: So my guess is Kansas City would be favored by

475
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Speaker 1: about two.

476
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Speaker 2: I think Niners line's already out the other way. Niners

477
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: are favored by two, which is insane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, I would I would take Kansas City, wouldn't you.

479
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't bet two weeks for Andy Reid

480
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Speaker 1: to prepare. Look at the numbers.

481
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Speaker 2: I don't know about you. I was kicking myself. I

482
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: put money on the Ravens and obviously, I mean shit,

483
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: Andy Reid had me to his house for Thanksgiving. I've

484
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: seen the guy up close, and I can't believe I

485
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: did it. And you knew right away here, like, how

486
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: did anyone even think that the Chiefs didn't have a chance.

487
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Speaker 2: I didn't think they didn't have a chance. But the

488
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: way that game went was just classic, Like this is

489
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 2: Belichick and Brady, but the twenty twenties version, and it

490
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Speaker 2: was just I would never bet against this team now.

491
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Speaker 2: I do think the forty nine ers you know in

492
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Speaker 2: theory should be much more mentally capable. The Ravens melted

493
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Speaker 2: down neutral Site. They're better in a dome. But Mahomes,

494
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the stat he has

495
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: as many playoff wins now as Elway and Peyton Manning.

496
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Speaker 2: He has as many playoff wins at twenty eight years

497
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Speaker 2: old as Peyton Manning and John Elway's career. He's too

498
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Speaker 2: away from Joe Montana.

499
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Speaker 1: Here's what's remarkable. So let's go and talk Kansas City Baltimore.

500
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Speaker 1: So what you saw with an offensive coach, and you

501
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: saw this with McVeigh this year and Matt Lafleur, that

502
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: you had a flawed team and there was a unit

503
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: or a part of the team. With McVay it was

504
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 1: the offensive line. With Lafleur, it was the quarterback, and

505
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: with Andy it was the wide receivers. You watched real

506
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Speaker 1: coaching over three months that mvs. Rashi Rice is a

507
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: one all three. At the Rams o line was a

508
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: train wreck. Early McVay offensive coach salved the riddle. Lafleur

509
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: over eight weeks. Jordan Love was a bust to a star,

510
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: and I thought, this receiving, this is what they can do.

511
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: This is what McDermott drives us crazy, is that basically

512
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: what you saw with the Rams, Packers and Chiefs was

513
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: a their very best football by the end of the

514
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: year offensively. Yet John Harbaughs signed off on that game plan.

515
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: All Gus Edwards does is make plays. They ignored him.

516
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: Isaiah Lively, they ignored him, and it was like, to me,

517
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: it's the opposite that what Baltimore their basic DNA all season.

518
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: And then you got into the game and Hardball signed

519
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: off in this game plan and by the way halftime,

520
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: no changes. They abandon the run totally. So they went

521
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: This is what drives me nuts is that offensive coaches

522
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: old Lions, young quarterbacks backup quarterbacks receiving course, they can

523
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Speaker 1: fix shit over the course of a season. I watched

524
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Speaker 1: I watched that Todd Monkin hardball performance today. That right,

525
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: and again I'm not saying Kansas City Spags doesn't deserve credit,

526
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Speaker 1: but the game plan and the play calling. They basically said,

527
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Speaker 1: like Buffalo does, Hey, Lamar, go make great plays.

528
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Speaker 2: In throwing the ball in the pocket. Right to me,

529
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Speaker 2: last week, Josh Allen ran all over the place, especially

530
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Speaker 2: outside the numbers, you know, or outside the tackle box.

531
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Speaker 2: So I thought, well, if he's going to do that,

532
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: could Lamar run for one hundred and twenty yards? Willy

533
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: gaze out today that they did the opposite. They just

534
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: tried to force feed the pass against a team that

535
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: actually can ant like they have a lot of very

536
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: talented defensive backs. Their linebackers were struggling to catch Josh

537
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Speaker 2: Allen last week. Lamar's faster, So why wouldn't you have

538
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: design power runs outside both They just never did it.

539
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: I thought the first half part of that game plan,

540
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: and let's face it, the game felt over at halftime,

541
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: was one of the most embarrassing in recent memory. They

542
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: just had somewhat of you know, the blueprint last week

543
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: with Buffalo how to use a running quarterback against these

544
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: guys and be very successful, and they did the opposite.

545
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: The other thing that really hit me, do you know

546
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: who might be the best coordinator in all of football?

547
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: If you factor in, you're never going to lose him.

548
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: No one is ever going to hire Steve Spagnola to

549
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: be their head coach. It's never going to happen. So

550
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: Andy Reid has a defensive coordinator who's clearly one of

551
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Speaker 2: the best in the league that he ever ever has

552
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: to worry about being hired to be a head coach.

553
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: This isn't college. It's not like someone else can coach him.

554
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: He basically just gets that as defensive coordinator. If he

555
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: wants to coach another five years, this guy gets to

556
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: just stay with him. Think of what a luxury that

557
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: is what SPACs is doing these last five years, especially

558
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: the last couple since their defense has gotten good. If

559
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: he was a forty one year old named John Smith,

560
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: he would have interviewed for four jobs or even as

561
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: a defensive coach all around the league. No one touch,

562
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: no one even pick up the phone, no one will,

563
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: so Andy doesn't even have to worry about that, and

564
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: like you said, the offense is always gonna be taken

565
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Speaker 2: care of. And I'll promise you this. I still think

566
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: the Niers might win the Super Bowl. But this Chiefs

567
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: team will never be as bad as they are. Offensively again, yeah,

568
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: because they're gonna get better. But defensively, you know you're

569
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: in good hands because your defensive coordinator is elite. He's

570
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Speaker 2: taken out Belichick.

571
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Speaker 1: At multiple Super Bowls.

572
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Speaker 2: I mean he's won super Bowls now with Andy. He

573
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: changed their culture defensively, and he's not gonna leave.

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Speaker 1: This is New England Scarnakia after Josh McDaniel's bombed as

575
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Speaker 1: a head coach. Part of what made them great was

576
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: this institutional this institutional cohesion and knowledge. Brady Dante, Scarnectia,

577
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, Josh McDaniels, Matthew Slater on special teams. Jesus,

578
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: it was these like six seminal guys that were the

579
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: best in the world at what they did. And I

580
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: think to your point, I think, you know, monk and

581
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: may lose his job after that, But I think what

582
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: we forget about this because I don't think Green Bay

583
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: wanted to get rid of Joe Berry. I think they

584
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: had to there's such an outcry, but Green Bay's been

585
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: one of those places historically that you know, players don't

586
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: get in a ton of trouble. You know you're not

587
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: going to overspend on free agents, no crazy owner. You

588
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: got to draft and develop. Green Bays had a thirty

589
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: year continuity of offensive coaches, drafting and develop. No chaos

590
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: at quarterback. I mean, now it looks like they're going

591
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: to get another twelve, but Jordan Love, they're going to

592
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: go almost fifty herds with no quarterback. Cast Marino left Miami,

593
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: they've still never replaced him.

594
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: The cohesion in the NFL is not normal. Look at

595
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan. He's on his third defensive coordinator and what

596
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: three years right, Sala got a job. Demko's there too,

597
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: and now he's on Wilks, who at halftime looked like

598
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: he might have been on his fourth. But I think

599
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: Andy look at their cores right. Obviously, Spags now has

600
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: been there over this four or five year run since

601
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: they've been really good under Mahomes, and they You ultimately

602
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: have to choose a couple players around your quarterback, and

603
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: you got to get it right. And for twenty plus years,

604
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: Belichick always got it right. Well, they made a decision, right,

605
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: They got rid of Tyreek, but they just stuck with

606
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: Travis who was easy to because he doesn't make that

607
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: much money. He's a great player. And Chris Jones. So

608
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: their corps was basically one of the great quarterbacks of

609
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: all time, one of the greatest tight ends of all time,

610
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: and one of the greatest interior pass rushers we've ever seen.

611
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: And then they've just built it around there with great cohesion.

612
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: At coaching. Matt Naggie leaves, he gets fired, immediately comes

613
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: back right, So a lot like the Josh McDaniels thing.

614
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: You know, this guy who the quarterback knows cohesions and

615
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: underrated part. And now Andy Reid historically has been used

616
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: to losing a lot of coaches, right, and he's comfortable

617
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: doing it. But right now I think they got something

618
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: special with the players and the coaches of everyone's on

619
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: the stae the Niners have a lot of that going

620
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: for him. With the players, right, Kyle and this group

621
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Speaker 2: of players have all been together now for four or

622
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Speaker 2: five plus years.

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Speaker 1: That matters. Oh you saw it in the second half

624
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: a corse, it matter you saw it. So it's interesting.

625
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: Against rookie who's fantastic fumbled the ball. Christian McCaffrey ain't

626
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: fumbling the ball today.

627
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers late rookie bonehead, plays like it matters all

628
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: this stuff. I mean, in fact, you could argue Gibbs

629
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: and Zay Flowers made the big mistakes of the game.

630
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Speaker 1: Great young players. So it's in Detroit. It's interesting because

631
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: they could take a step back when Ben Johnson leaves.

632
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: He's that good where everything can come back down to

633
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: earth if you hire the wrong coordinator. Nick Sirianni and

634
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Speaker 1: Philly is a great example. You miss replacing a brilliant

635
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: oc it's a different everybody comes back down to earth.

636
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: I was thinking about my homes today. Though when he

637
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: started the game he didn't have an incompletion to the

638
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: second quarter. Is that I don't think we've ever seen

639
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: anything like this. Peyton Manning, as good as he was,

640
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: was a teeth clencher. Elway had some really bad big games.

641
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: Brady was mostly an early game manager. I can say

642
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: it now. Mahomes is the greatest quarterback I've ever seen.

643
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: I can say it, and I've watched Marino and Elway.

644
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: You know I love Brady now. Brady's more productive. But

645
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: what we're watching here, as a player that against the

646
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: best defenses, in the highest leverage moments, the biggest audience,

647
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: the most pressure best defenses, is significantly better, not better,

648
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: significantly better than he is in the regular season. His

649
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: playoff numbers, they don't make sense. It would be like

650
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter was a three hundred hitter hitting three seventy

651
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: in the postseason. It's like, wait time out, what are

652
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: we doing here? When I watched Mahomes, I'm like, hey,

653
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: this he made a throw today and it was Travis

654
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: Kelsey made a great catch, but he was running. It

655
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: was a muddy pocket. He moved forward and he just

656
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: sent a little floater up and it was like Thanksgiving

657
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: backyard football and it was completed. And I thought, nobody

658
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: cares about that play. I honestly today in that environment

659
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: juxtapos watching Lamar and him, and I'm like, if Lamar's

660
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: number two in the league, the gap between those two

661
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: is the Grand Canyon.

662
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: Lamar's not number two in the league. Josh Allen is

663
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: and you listen. They're never gonna go on record and

664
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: say this, but I'll promise you Josh and Spags have

665
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: more fear face in Josh Allen than they do Lamar Jackson.

666
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: Like that. It's not crushing the guy. He had a

667
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: great season, but he's not as good as those two guys.

668
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: And it was on full display today. It was on

669
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: display the first half a week ago against the Houston Texas,

670
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: like he can be rattled really easy. And to me, Mahomes,

671
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: to me, I'm with you. The Brady thing, it's gonna

672
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: be hard even if he wins a couple more to

673
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: ever gets to the six.

674
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: It's like Lebron and MJ because it's just there's so

675
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: much production and titles and trophies from MJ. But Lebron

676
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: does significantly more things better than MJ.

677
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 2: I mean last night he was have like twenty rebounds

678
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: against the Warors. It was incredible. He's got gray hair

679
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: over his face, He's got twenty rebounds beating the worst.

680
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: The thing that Mahomes does that parallels Brady to a

681
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: t is in these big moments. Now he can do

682
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: a sexier play because he can move around in the pocket.

683
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: Tom could not. They never fuck up, they just refuse.

684
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 2: And in the second half, and Romo kind of mentioned

685
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: this is it's unsexy to say this word. But when

686
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 2: you get a lead in a big spot, the game

687
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: manager aspect, or maybe Bill Coward did, He's like he

688
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: game managed like a Hall of Fame player. I'm not

689
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: No one on the other team is touching the ball,

690
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: anyone around me. I'm either getting rid of the ball,

691
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: throwing out of bounds. You're gonna have to beat us,

692
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 2: but you're not gonna beat us because I give you something.

693
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: And Tom and the Patriots were elite at that. Peyton

694
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: would screw up. He would throw the ball to the

695
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: other team. Sometimes had some awful interceptions in some big games. Right,

696
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: the teeth get tight, he gets loose, but he's very

697
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: under control. A lot like Tom. It's like they're super focused,

698
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: but they're very calm and loose. It's I mean, how

699
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: many guys in the history of sports have had that,

700
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: like Tiger, Michael Tom. It's a tiny, tiny list. Derek

701
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: Jeter in the playoffs, maybe big poppy. Most guys just

702
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: naturally get a little tight. You saw Jared Goff like it.

703
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: He just kind of got felt a little tighter. Lamar,

704
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: the pressure you can feel it. You don't even need

705
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: to be at the game. You can feel it on

706
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: the TV. You're like, God, this drives huge. And then

707
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: if you don't get a second and eight, all of

708
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: a sudden, like third and eight, you're like, h The

709
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: coaches clench up, everyone clenches up. And this is where

710
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: the championship blood and the championship medal. I saw it

711
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: when I lived in the barrier with the San Fransco Giants.

712
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: It all starts at the top. And I'm telling you,

713
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: Andy Reid, if you talk to anyone that plays for him,

714
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: they're like his team meetings after loss, his wins. They

715
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: all feel the same. He's not a yeller and a screamer.

716
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: He does not invoke tightness anytime you're around him. He's

717
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: naturally kind of loose. He's not a big screamer, but

718
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: you know, enjoy but he's not a big downer in

719
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: the negative times. So I think it all starts with him,

720
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 2: and he has the perfect quarterback for him. But to me, Patrick,

721
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: the maturity today to be in full control on the

722
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: road against a great defense, Like you said early in

723
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: that game, that dot he threw to Kelsey down the

724
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: scene was like, oh my god. It was like it

725
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: would have been like watching Michael Jordan ninety seven or

726
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 2: ninety eight, Like, good luck, guys, you're in for one.

727
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: How about the throw to Kelsey when Kyle Hamilton he

728
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: was on a single side by himself and it was

729
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: a first Kelsey made a hell of a play first

730
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: time all year a tight end beat Kyle Hamilton for

731
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: a touchdown. And after that throw, I'm like, he's on one.

732
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: Isn't Kelsey? Also, we talk a lot about Mahomes and Andy,

733
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: but think about Kelsey all year long. You're like, huh,

734
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: is this gonna be his last year on the Chiefs?

735
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: Are they gonna ask him toke a pay cut? Like

736
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: he's kind of getting old. What happens when the playoffs

737
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 2: start looks like the Hall of Fame a minus guy.

738
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: Now he's not may not be as dominant as he

739
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: once was in at thirty two thirty. He was great today,

740
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: but he's still It's like a throwback like Scotti pit,

741
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: like Michael Michael looking at him like I need you

742
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: and Travis like I'm ready, And he said it all

743
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: week He's like, I've never wanted a game more than

744
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: this game. Like these guys, their level of focus and

745
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: obviously their talent is second to none. But today there

746
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 2: it was watching greatness like that. That game was Were

747
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: you shocked? You didn't think they would dominate like that?

748
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: Did you like the chief?

749
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: So basically the Niners Lions looked exactly like I thought.

750
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: I said on Friday, I said, Detroit will probably take

751
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: the lead. They're a great first half team. Ben Johnson,

752
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: I said, perty you'll play from behind, It'll be good.

753
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: It'll be close. If thebo plays, I said, he'll make

754
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: two or three big plays and they'll I think I

755
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: predicted the score would be thirty four to twenty eight

756
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: or thirty four to twenty seven. So that game, now,

757
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: I didn't expect the meltdown in the huge lead, but

758
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: the final result was San Francisco just made more big plays.

759
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: Their physicality took over. Detroit was not quite ready in

760
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: the moment. That's what I thought I would see it.

761
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: Just how we got there was different.

762
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

763
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: I do not remember ever a playoff game with what

764
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: I perceived to be a great team being more wrong

765
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: that game. First of all, my entire belief on the

766
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: game was, Oh, they're going to pound the rock, make

767
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: mahomes sit on the sideline. And it was Kansas City

768
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: that had a nine minute drive. I know the game

769
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: looked the opposite of what I look like at.

770
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: The time of possession. I remember they put it on

771
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: the screen one time. You're like, this is insane.

772
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: It's insane. And they abandoned the run. Like I thought

773
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: it was going to be. Baltimore lead, Kansas City can't

774
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: quite keep it. In the end, Baltimore couldn't score. They

775
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: abandoned they They didn't abandon the run. They never ran,

776
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: they never attempted to run. So that game, that game, Okay,

777
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: So let's talk about this.

778
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: How do you match the experience with the coaches on

779
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: Kansas City When you think about Andy's now been in

780
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: the league for thirty plus years and all the stagnola

781
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 2: can it can lean back on the games against Belichick

782
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: and his experience. I mean it's so.

783
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: I have been a been a big defender of Lamar.

784
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: I love how much he cares. Every year he gets bigger,

785
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: he gets better, and we cannot deny he's a better

786
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: pocket quarterback to day than he used to be, no

787
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: question jastic player. But I did think today it is

788
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: now fair to say not quite the same. In the playoffs,

789
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: I defended him forever. I used to say Peyton Manning

790
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: wasn't the same in the playoffs. It's hard to win

791
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: in the playoffs today, And again I'm not blaming him.

792
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: He had no run support. I hated the game plan,

793
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: but he melted a little late, and I think it's

794
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: fair to say he had a couple of bad throws.

795
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: I do think it's fair to say that he is.

796
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: He tends to be run centric. He can melt a little.

797
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: He's not as good from behind, most aren't. But when

798
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: you watched him in Mahomes, I'm like, some of the

799
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: criticism is just now. I defended it, but it's just.

800
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: Well, from a specific football standpoint, he got fidgety today,

801
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: he got rushed. He looked like the younger Lamar where

802
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: in the playoffs when it wasn't going Baltimore's way, he

803
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: would one read and then kind of scramble around and

804
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: kind of scramble within the pocket and it just throws

805
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: everything off instead of all season long. Now, granted they

806
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: were beating the crap out of most teams, right, he

807
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: was very under control. It's like, well, if this is

808
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 2: the version of the player, I'm all in because he's calm,

809
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: you know, kind of moving around today, he got very fidgety.

810
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 2: He got very felt very uneasy about two seconds into

811
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: the place. And part of that I think gets back

812
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: to the immense amount of pressure in a spot like

813
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: that against that opponent, and you start going we're down,

814
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: you just naturally kind of freak out. Now, maybe we

815
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: look back in a couple of years and he wins

816
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: a game like this and he says going through that

817
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: experience helped me out. But today he resorted back to

818
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: the guy. Like I said this last week, everyone shitting

819
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: on Josh Allen. Was he perfect? No? But I never

820
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: watched for a moment thought I wouldn't want that guy

821
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: on my team. If you put that guy on a

822
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: team that stacked, you're winning with that guy. It was

823
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: not his fault. He did not look overwhelmed. I'm not

824
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: saying Lamar looked overwhelmed, but I need you to be

825
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: in complete control the moment you get fidgety. It's the

826
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning thing. In the playoffs, you're playing the best

827
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: of the best. He used to lose the Patriots. You're

828
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: playing the Andy and Mahomes here. They're not gonna screw up,

829
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: and this defense is solid. Like, just live to fight

830
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: some other you know, get a seven yard game right

831
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: complete some balls. The balls were flying on him, the

832
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: rain started coming. But to me, he was very very

833
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: uneasy in the pocket. And that, to me, you kind

834
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: of knew it right away, like you could feel it.

835
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: And it happened against the Houston Texans, and then he

836
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: came out a different guy. Why they started running the

837
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: ball calmed everything down. He never calmed down. Their offense

838
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: never calmed down.

839
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: Well, they didn't do Monkin, didn't do him any favors.

840
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: The way to settle a quarterback down is get him

841
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: a run game for sure. By the way, second half

842
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: Niners Christian McCaffrey peeled off a couple of big runs.

843
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: Everybody comes down, the temperature in the room comes down.

844
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: The lit'll swing past the debot, debo breaks, tackles, the

845
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: sideline played a kittle. It just brings the temperature down.

846
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: It gets the crowd into it. So Sam Francisco, after

847
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: a rocky first half, by party, what are we gonna do.

848
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: Let's get him some yards. Let's not put the pressure

849
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: on him. They never did that with Baltimore. They just

850
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: kept dropping him back. By the way, and Spags is

851
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: bringing extra people Baltimore can't block him. So at no

852
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: point did Baltimore say, listen, because they saw what you saw.

853
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: God Lamar's frenetic here, let's get him help. Nope, they

854
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: just dropped him again with six rushing and five blocking.

855
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 2: If I told you this morning that before the game

856
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: kicked off, the Chiefs are only gonna have seventeen points,

857
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: you would probably assume they're gonna lose, right Like, I

858
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 2: didn't envision a spot where they could win seventeen to sixteen,

859
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: or seventeen to thirteen or seventeen to ten. But what

860
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: happened today. Awful pick in the end zone in a

861
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: triple coverage, Karlovskis gets a big strip sack against him. Obviously,

862
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: the Chiefs came through with turnovers. You can't afford to

863
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: have the forty nine ers overcame the pick party. It

864
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: was early. Would they would not have been able to

865
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: overcome a pick in the second half, and let alone

866
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: countless turnof over stay Flowers, Lamar Jackson, the fumble trip sack.

867
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: I mean, that's you're not overcoming that against you know,

868
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: the New Dynasty. It's not possible, But it starts with him.

869
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole building. I would imagine every guy

870
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: and and female that bought a ticket felt it early

871
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: like we're in trouble. This quarterback looks a little off kilter,

872
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: and let's face it, he was.

873
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the Super Bowl is going to be

874
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: interesting for a lot of reasons. San Francisco, as you noted,

875
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: comes out of favorite. I would bet Kansas City.

876
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 2: I think that line will come storming down, are you yeah?

877
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, this institutional.

878
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: The Chiefs just won the Super Bowl. Last season, they

879
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl. They're back in it, or they

880
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 2: not the favorites.

881
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: Well, I'd say when they played them before, Mahomes wasn't

882
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: making the money, The roster was a little deeper on

883
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: the defensive side, more experienced. Perty's a better runner than Garoppolo.

884
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he I always thought, gimme

885
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: through a great ball between the hash marks, could didn't

886
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: move much. Pretty gives you a new element. McCaffrey wasn't

887
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: on that team, so that this team has.

888
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,959
Speaker 2: Got their defense is not as good as that team.

889
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: That defensive line house at Buckner, That defensive line was good.

890
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: I I would take Kansas City and the points, you know,

891
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: because I've watched San Francisco play crappy football for three

892
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: quarters against the Packers and two and a half quarters

893
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: against the Lions. So my takeaway is where I haven't

894
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: seen Kansas City have a bad quarter. They've had twelve

895
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: excellent quarters. With San Francisco, they've overcome I mean, let's let's.

896
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: Not kid, go back to the Baltimore game that they've

897
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: had some bad games over the past month. It's not

898
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: even just the playoffs, they've been off. Yeah.

899
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: So I just I got to tell you, I find uh,

900
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why I bet against Kansas City. There's

901
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: just so much institutional intelligence, you know, And it was

902
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: so clear to day early on, I mean, Kelsey had

903
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: one of his best haves ever and not even just touchdowns,

904
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: just making diving catch after diving catch. And there's been

905
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: this sort of narrative he's not focused. There's Taylor Swift

906
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, he's showing off for today, because

907
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: that's shit what I'm watching. Yeah, that maybe he has

908
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: a ring in his pocket he's delivering tonight, because that

909
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: was like one of the he was engaged. I thought

910
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey really set the tone. And you know what

911
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: else I liked in big games. Baltimore didn't give it

912
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: to Gus Edwards. It's like, what are you doing? Didn't

913
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: they didn't go with their strength? What did Kansas City do?

914
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, Travis Kelsey, Travis Kelsey, But Checko Rice? Who's

915
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: because I love their game plan, which is what spags

916
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: rep pressure? What did they do? Play right into his strains?

917
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: Go look at everything Kansas City did today. It was

918
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: all the best version of what they did. And I

919
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: think San Francisco's second half, by the way, looked exactly Okay, here,

920
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: guys at half, this is who we are. Let's go

921
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: do what we do now. Detroit did the same thing,

922
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: which is reckless. But Baltimore is the only team this weekend.

923
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: I thought, what was that? I don't get that. I

924
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: thought Kansas City and San Francisco niners second half, Really

925
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: that's who they are.

926
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: You know. One thing that Andy has changed definitely the

927
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: last couple of years. Now, part of his tyres gone

928
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: is the knock on him was always pass pass pass.

929
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 2: He has no problem given to Isaiah who against the

930
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, I mean, look at them. They can't

931
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: stop the run right now, So I would expect for

932
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl a lot of pachaco because stopping the

933
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: run is not and let's face it, there outside passing

934
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: game with the Kansay Chiefs is not as good as Detroit's.

935
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: So the forty nine ers are gonna have to find

936
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: a way to slow down this game because that if

937
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: you're just giving up five six yards of carry, you're

938
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: just gonna be up against the ropes. It's impossible not

939
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: to be because it keeps your offense off the field.

940
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: You know. Obviously this guy on if it's third and three,

941
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: they're talented enough to get those, and they have the

942
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: greatest quarterback of all time. But you have to start

943
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: if you cannot stop the run, like they would have

944
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: lost this game the version of the way their defense

945
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 2: was playing to the Kanatite Chiefs and now it's inside fast.

946
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: Now that benefits the forty nine ers too. But the

947
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: other kind of swing is think about Mahomes. These last

948
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: two weeks just perfect. He's just been a plus A

949
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: plus party's, you know, but a little bit of a

950
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 2: roller coaster. I don't think you can afford roller coaster

951
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: party throwing a pick six or something against Kansas City

952
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: and being down ten nothing to the level of coaching

953
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: staff you're gonna go to. Now, maybe the Niners can

954
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: figure out some defensive stuff. Here's one problem, Colin when

955
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: you invest a lot into a certain position, like ultimately, like,

956
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: why are the chief struggling with the wide receivers. Well,

957
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 2: they don't have a great player. It's not like they've

958
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: bought one guy who's not living up. They drafted a

959
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: guy in the second round. Sky More didn't work out, whatever,

960
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: Rice is, whatever, a third round pick like that, they'll

961
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: be fine. They will invest more in that. The forty

962
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: nine ers have invested a ton into the defensive line

963
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 2: right now. Bosa made some plays today, but Chase Young,

964
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: they trade a third round pick for it, He's nowhere.

965
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: Armstead and Hardgrave today were many places to be found.

966
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: By the second half, at least Fred Warner and Dre

967
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: Greenlaws started making some places. But when you invest in

968
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: an area, this was the downfall of the Philadelphia Eagles.

969
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: When you put all that money in the defensive line, well,

970
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: if the defensive line doesn't play it like an A

971
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: minus level, and if you put them at like a

972
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: C plus B minus, you're gonna be screwed because you're

973
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: gonna have major liabilities to other spot. This is a

974
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: business that you build the Pike chart over and the

975
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 2: Niners are very dependent on this defensive line, and right

976
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: now it is not good. Beside Bosa, none of them

977
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: are making place, and they definitely against the run. They're

978
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: all getting turned around in these gaping holes. So Andy

979
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: Reid might have been a passing coach, but I would

980
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: imagine that you're gonna get a big dose of running

981
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: game come the Super Bowl.

982
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't have a strong feel because I will

983
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: say this. I think Kansas City has the best quarterback.

984
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: I've the best player I've ever seen. So that is

985
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: my age, and I think Andy Reid. You know, I

986
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: think I've told you this before that if the NFL

987
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: would have written that CTE check to the players union

988
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 1: ten years earlier and the league would have pivoted to offense,

989
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: Andy'd be the best coach ever. Belichick probably wouldn't have

990
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: two or three of the Super Bowls. But it was late,

991
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: so Andy was working against the league. These offensive coaches,

992
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: defensive coaches reigned supreme for years and decades in this league. Well,

993
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean, now you watch John Harbaugh's game plan today,

994
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: you look at McDermott, Mike Tomlin, how these teams struggle

995
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: in the O line run games. It's I mean, is

996
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: it a surprise that Kyle Shanahan and Andy Reid are

997
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: in the championship game? Only McVeigh to me, maybe Peyton.

998
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: But that's kind of the highest cut of the cloth

999
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: in this league offensively, is it not?

1000
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: Is it not?

1001
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: Shanahan's the best scheme guy in the league. Andy's the

1002
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: best play designer and play caller. Mcvay's the best offensive

1003
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: culture builder. And then I think, I think Peyton and

1004
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: Lafleur deserve a lot of props. Ben Johnson's probably the best

1005
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: year coordinator. Shane Steike and I think is getting really

1006
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: close to putting that, But I mean, it's not a surprise.

1007
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: This is the coaching sport. NBA is a players league,

1008
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: Baseball is a pitchers sport. Football order back. In the

1009
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: coaches league. We have the two best offensive coaches.

1010
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I mean, and I think both of them.

1011
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: And this is what my issue we talked during about

1012
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 2: college football during the season with Lincoln Riley and some

1013
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: college coaches is they don't even look to the defensive

1014
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 2: side of the ball that they don't. They don't attack

1015
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: it till it's too late. Is Andy Reid and Kyle

1016
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: Shanahan are huge believers. Now it doesn't always work, but

1017
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: doubling down on defensive lines, getting aggressive players, paying for corners,

1018
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: drafting guys high on defense because part of my ability,

1019
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: right is going to be I can help the guys

1020
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: out on this side. Now, it helps when you hit

1021
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: star players like Kelsey or Tyreek Hill, or trade for

1022
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. But Juwan Jennings, no one heard of the

1023
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 2: guy three years ago, and now he's making big plays

1024
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: every single game. Right that they can. They can create

1025
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: that with no names. And defensively they've always, you know,

1026
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: allocated a lot of resources over there, and sometimes offensive coaches,

1027
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: you know, are either two hands off. I give Sean

1028
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: McVeagh a lot of credit. Look how the defensive coordinators

1029
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: he's always invested in, how much emphasis they put when

1030
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: they do have draft picks on that side of the ball, right,

1031
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: because you cannot win in these big spots. Obviously the

1032
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: Niners were getting treaded, but their defense came through in

1033
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: big spots that are highly paid.

1034
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: Right.

1035
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: Obviously, Kansas City has a fantastic defense the Baltimore was

1036
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 2: there because they had the number one defense. So offense

1037
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: is huge and the offensive, you know, head coaches are

1038
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: the ultimately like the swing part of it. But you've

1039
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: got to emphasize defense as an offensive coach because you're

1040
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: gonna need that side of the ball. And the Chiefs

1041
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: have really benefited from that this year because their offensive

1042
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 2: personnel is not as great, but they keep getting better,

1043
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: right and obviously Kyle since he's been since they've been good,

1044
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: they've always had very physical defense. I also think practicing

1045
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: physically is a really, really big thing, and Andy Reid

1046
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: is still known for running the hardest training camp. Kyle

1047
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: Sham talk to their players Monday through Friday is not

1048
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: that fun. It's a very very intense environment. It's not

1049
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: negative like Belichick, but in terms of football wise, you

1050
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: better know your shit or people are on you. And

1051
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: practice is not just lollygagging around in sandals. What was

1052
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: the knock on the Eagles this year, It's like, oh,

1053
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: they weren't really practicing, they were an older team. Well

1054
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 2: I get it, but if you do not practice in football,

1055
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: you practice four or five times more than you play

1056
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 2: every week. So yeah, the practice these coaches are addicted

1057
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: to practice, and Andy Reid and Kyle Shit, they like

1058
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: practice as much they like the games. Their excitement getting

1059
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 2: ready because it's the preparation for but it's also getting

1060
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 2: setting the team's tone. It's why Harbaugh's such a great coach.

1061
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: His practices are physical, like his team doesn't just show

1062
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: up and shove people around. It starts in the offseason,

1063
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 2: starts in training camp, and then it's through the weeks

1064
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: during the season. It was always something famous Belichick did

1065
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: when they were always the number one or two seed

1066
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: and they got the Bie week. I heard Jillan Edelman

1067
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: is like, we used to scrimmage in full pads, like

1068
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 2: it was just step the tone for physicality. We didn't

1069
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: want to lose that because that is the separating factor

1070
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: offensively and defensively. And when you practice hard, everyone gets better.

1071
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: What do you watch when you watch the Chiefs and

1072
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: the Niners. I mean, people are getting hit hard offensively, defensively,

1073
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: and it starts with the head coach. You can't fake that. Listen,

1074
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: most people in life aren't tough like Dan Campbell's a

1075
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: tough guy. You know, Jim Harb is a tough guy.

1076
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: You go is Kyle a tough guy. Well, the way

1077
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: he viewed football philosophically, one Andy reeves always smile and

1078
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 2: nugging people, I promise you. And he loves throwing bombs,

1079
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: loves toughness in football, and it shows in the biggest

1080
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 2: moments because that's where you needed to come through.

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00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: John Middlekoff, former NFL Scout three and Out podcast for

1082
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: the volume. This is always great. So I think we'll

1083
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: meet again next week. Listen, we have the best coach

1084
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: and quarterback against maybe the second best coach and best roster.

1085
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: And so the conspiracy theorist can say the league wanted

1086
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift in, but it looked like Todd Monkin. What

1087
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in now? Roger Goodell, that goofy game plan.

1088
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: It's been a hell of a year, you know.

1089
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: I look at this year, these ticket these ticket prices

1090
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: to get in, I might need to get into that building,

1091
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,479
Speaker 2: cal and I might need to use to call some people,

1092
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: to call some people because this ticket price to get

1093
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: in price could be I bet it's going to shatter records.

1094
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: I mean in Vegas, right, and Taylor Swift.

1095
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think that Lions Niners rating?

1096
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: Is that Fox has been in a role Jesus Fox

1097
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: eight million people. You think, but listen. I like the NBA.

1098
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: I watched both the Celtics Clippers game Saturday night, first half,

1099
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: second half of the Lakers Warriors. I love the NBA.

1100
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: NBA is dying to get like one point nine million

1101
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: or a game. The NFL, and I think legalized gambling

1102
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: as jet fuel is completely pulling away. I three or

1103
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: four things are happening to the NBA. One, the NFL

1104
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: took Christmas back, which was a huge marketing day for

1105
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: the league. NBA NFL said, yeah, we're done with that.

1106
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: We're going to own it.

1107
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: Hurts.

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00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: That was a real launching point. Secondly, the league's getting

1109
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: highly European. Most of the best players Luca Jannis Jokic

1110
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me. I love it, but it is getting

1111
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: Our domestic players have very little imprint. These guys come.

1112
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: You know, Wenby's the next great player. SGA's from Canada.

1113
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: It's it's and I'm I'm not opposed to it. I

1114
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: like stylistically, I love watching Jokic play, but you know,

1115
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: fans often they kind of root for their own. They

1116
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: want to see their Kansas guy and their Ohio State Guide.

1117
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: And so that's second thing. The third thing with the

1118
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: NBA is that Stephan Lebron carried the league for fifteen

1119
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: years and that was so much fun. As I watched

1120
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: it this weekend, and as I watched that, I thought,

1121
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: is this the last meaningful game between those two? I

1122
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: literally was getting romantic. I'm like, we're not getting any Steph.

1123
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Steph Lebron. This could be one of the

1124
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: last times they really light the world up.

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Speaker 2: Where's like five games out of five hundred theyre not

1126
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: gonna be in the playoffs? I thought, can the NBA

1127
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: you know how golf gives sponsors exemptions, Like, could you

1128
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: give a sponsor exemption to get Steph Curry into the playoffs?

1129
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: Because that's got to be the highest rated NBA game

1130
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: of the year. Do you know one thing I think

1131
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: in the NFL? And I'm sure you've talked about this,

1132
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: but I really noticed it in my life, whether it's

1133
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: my girlfriend, her friends, whether it's just other ladies in

1134
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: my life, my mother and her friends, a lot of

1135
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: women watch the NFL. Yes, my mom watched every snap

1136
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: to day and she she's because I worked for coach

1137
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: Read and he was so good to meet. She doesn't

1138
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: miss a Chiefs game. She's a diehard Chiefs fan, you know.

1139
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: And I know so many moms that you know, I'm

1140
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: from northern California. They don't miss a snap of the Niners.

1141
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: And I think that's probably the same moms in Philly,

1142
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: women in Philly, Dallas. I think you go around the country.

1143
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: No way basketball has that. I mean, I think the

1144
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: under and this is not has anything to do this

1145
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: well before Taylor Swift ever showed up Dayton Travis. Yeah,

1146
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I think that the audience uptick in

1147
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: women watching football, specifically the NFL has got to be.

1148
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: All Okay, my wife doesn't like sports. Glued to the

1149
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: game today with her sister. My sister doesn't like sports,

1150
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: became a Seahawks fan with Russell Wilson. My sister and

1151
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: my wife do not watch sports anything ever. I mean,

1152
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: they the idea of taking my wife to a baseball game,

1153
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 1: it would be like taking her to a bingo game

1154
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: at an old folks home. She just wouldn't do it. No,

1155
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: I think you're right. In fact, I saw a number

1156
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: six or I just got to Fox about seven years

1157
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: ago and they were showing I got some research from

1158
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: the people upstairs, Mike mulva Hill, and I stopped by.

1159
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: I used to see him like once every few months,

1160
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: and I see him a couple times a year.

1161
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: Very bright guy.

1162
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: All the numbers I fall docked like it was like

1163
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the fans were women or close to it.

1164
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I can't be true.

1165
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: It was well like people up in Seattle and your

1166
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: sister's friends and just random females over the last ten years.

1167
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: When Russell Wilson came onto the scene, how many of

1168
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: them do you think followed the Seahawks really closely? I

1169
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: bet it was pretty high. Yep.

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Speaker 1: And I also think there's something about football. It's once

1171
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: a week, so you don't feel I mean, women have big,

1172
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: broad lives, careers, kids, One game a week. By the way,

1173
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: it's Sunday, and so husbands are around, families around. It's

1174
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: kind of like lunch, dinner, beer. It's a real it's

1175
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: real family feeling football it's once a week. It's also

1176
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I mean, I do think

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01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: there's something to be said. You have to be a

1178
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: real baseball fan to get baseball. There's literally one hundred

1179
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: and sixty two games spring training, postseason, there's over two hundred.

1180
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: It's a maze of games. I'm a sportscaster. I get

1181
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: lost with it. NBA so many meaningless games, load management.

1182
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: NFL players once a week they play hurt and you know,

1183
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: for most of your stars, the careers are ten years,

1184
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: so you just get used to seeing people. And by

1185
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: the way, many of those players that are great in

1186
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: the NFL, they were great in college. So I just followed.

1187
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: You can go follow Caleb Williams at US to the Bears,

1188
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: so you have some connection to it.

1189
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: I also think one thing, you know, most of my friends,

1190
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: either from college or high school, if I went on

1191
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 2: Instagram the day I swear to got eighty percent of

1192
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: them were at the Niners game. And I think if

1193
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: you grew up in an NFL city like Philly or

1194
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: Dallas or wherever, or the big college cities, it's such

1195
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: an event, right. It's fun to go tailgate, it's getting

1196
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 2: out of the house, going to hang out. It's really

1197
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: just all day. It's a positive thing. Now the game

1198
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: might not turn it. It was going to be a

1199
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: negative thing if they lost, but it is something fun

1200
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: to do, and like you said, it's not one of those.

1201
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: It's once during the season, rights every other week. If

1202
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: you're a season ticket holder, I mean, I know countless

1203
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: season ticket hold it's very easy thing to fall. It's

1204
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: always easy to get rid of your tickets. And I

1205
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: don't know many people that are associated with a team

1206
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: as a season ticket holder or go to games that

1207
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: complain about it. And I think it's the opposite in

1208
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: the other sports where I know so many people over

1209
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: the last five years that have taken their kids to

1210
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: see Steph Curry and just for whatever, he didn't play right,

1211
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: and and that's dramatically hurt the game. You know, when

1212
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: you're going to a Kansasity Chiefs game or a forty

1213
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: nine er game, that if I'm wearing a Deebo jersey

1214
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 2: or I'm wearing a Kelsea Mahomes jersey, that guy's gonna

1215
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: have to have a broken leg or broken shoulder else

1216
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: he I mean Johnny and if you like, he's gonna

1217
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: give me everything he has.

1218
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Speaker 1: It's totally relatable. I mean, MB doesn't play against Jokish

1219
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: and we're both we're both NBA fans. I watch all,

1220
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: I watched, I watched again, I.

1221
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 2: Watched I'm dipping, so I've gone the It's just I

1222
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: found it with the with the the load management and

1223
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: the effort last night was pretty remarkable. But that felt

1224
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: like a game from fifteen twenty years ago, right the

1225
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: Lakers and Warriors. That that's not what the NBA is anymore.

1226
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: They've lost the guys making so much money, the urgency

1227
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: of the sport has been lost. That's what's amazing about

1228
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 2: football is the money has Like Patrick Mahomes had a

1229
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty million dollar contract, and if I

1230
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: told you that guy was playing for his career, you

1231
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: would have thought today, like you know, his contract was

1232
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: on the line. So the money hasn't phased any of

1233
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: these guys. You might not play well, but you never

1234
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: feel like anyone's mailing it in. Everyone's always trying. And

1235
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: I do think it's a culture of football from from

1236
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: pee wee's to high school to college to the pros.

1237
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: Guys are coaches yell at you, right, you're just getting yelled,

1238
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: you're getting humble.

1239
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: Also, if you go look at the NBA media coverage,

1240
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a fan It's just it's just

1241
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: basically they're all pr people because nobody, even the ones

1242
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: I respect. They don't want to lose access to the

1243
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: top four agents, in the top twelve players. In the NFL,

1244
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: there's there's just I mean Kansas City. I mean take

1245
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Travis Kelsey gets pissed off at you. I'll

1246
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,439
Speaker 1: go talk about homes. I'll talk to read shit. They're

1247
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: two corners. There's just guys to talk to. In the NBA,

1248
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: there's like a player or a team that you have

1249
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: to have the access to. I used to have a

1250
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: buddy that covered the San Francisco Giants, and he's like, man,

1251
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: those guys will.

1252
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: Turn on you.

1253
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: Boy.

1254
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 2: Those guys will try to bury or else you'd throw

1255
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: a bat at your face. Yeah.

1256
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: So it's like in the NFL, it's just the media

1257
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: is hard but supportive. I mean we're not here to

1258
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean I used to be Broodloan Baker. I think

1259
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: he's great. I love his redemption story.

1260
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 2: Do you think most of guys, most players are are

1261
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: unfazed by it. Like in the NBA, they go into

1262
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: the tank and they get mad and they start lasting out.

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Speaker 2: In the NFL, it's like whatever, I'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think also NFL players because they have shorter

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Speaker 1: careers and they stay in college longer. A lot of

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Speaker 1: them married their sweethearts in college. Yeah, and because of

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Speaker 1: young place, I think they have families and kids sooner,

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Speaker 1: and so they're not on their phone all day. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're some of these NBA guys, you're twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: never married, no kids, you're doing your thing, You're on

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Speaker 1: your phone all day at your hotel. I tell people

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Speaker 1: this all the time, that people I've had not in

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Speaker 1: a long time. But I pretty much have my staff

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Speaker 1: except for games like today when they're big games. But

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Speaker 1: I have my staff pretty much run my social and

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Speaker 1: I tell people all the time there's no value in

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Speaker 1: reading it. But NBA got again. But I'm married, kids,

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Speaker 1: business podcasts. If I was a twenty eight year old

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Speaker 1: sportscaster and I didn't have any of that, I'd probably

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Speaker 1: be on the phone all day. So I think I

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01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: think NFL players tend to come into the league more mature.

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Speaker 1: They see the they also know one injury and they're done,

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Speaker 1: so they put their money away. You don't hear a

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Speaker 1: lot of NFL stories of guys going bro. Most of

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Speaker 1: the guys put their money away because they know they're

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Speaker 1: just a one hit from being done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so what's your what's your guests on

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Speaker 2: the numbers today? We're talking over fifty million. Game got

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Speaker 2: pretty good in the second half.

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Speaker 1: I'll say forty six and a half million. Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: get over fifty. I mean, you know what's so funny

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Speaker 1: when the season started, I think we were a little

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Speaker 1: concerned at Fox. I'm not going to speak for our

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Speaker 1: per management. Rogers gone, the AFC had the star quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and Aaron had left the AFC, and Russell Wilson the

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Speaker 1: year before had left the AFC, And we're like, Jared Goff,

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Speaker 1: how long Stafford playing?

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Speaker 2: It was?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was like new kid. But what's been

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Speaker 1: great is the NFC has these great rights Dallas against

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Speaker 1: green Bay, Green Bay, San Francisco and then Detroit. Such

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Speaker 1: a heartwarming story as the NFC's got these the.

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Speaker 3: AFC, Philly's just interesting and even. But in the end,

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Speaker 3: if you go to look at the AFC, it's Tennessee's

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Speaker 3: and Jacksonville's and the Houston Texans. Kansas City's obviously a

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Speaker 3: profoundly popular franchise. But in the NFC, you've just got

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Speaker 3: these built in sixties set even the bad teams. The

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Speaker 3: Bears were kind of fascinating.

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Speaker 1: This year is Justin Field's gonna work and now Washington's

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Speaker 1: gonna get Ben Johnson richest owner, most cab space. I'd

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Speaker 1: be kind of interesting. The NFC has these big foundational

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Speaker 1: people don't understand John out East. They have no idea

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Speaker 1: how popular the Niners are out West.

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Speaker 2: They have when you say that the NFC East, if

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Speaker 2: we were going to compare it to college football, would

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Speaker 2: be like the power of the SEC. And then if

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Speaker 2: you took like the Packers and the forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 2: that's like Michigan Ohio State. I'm not obviously the AFC

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Speaker 2: is really good. I'm just talking the power of the brands.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think people understand like when the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers in Green Bay played each other, how

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Speaker 2: many people were watching that game. I mean, you're talking

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Speaker 2: about my entire life. That's a rivalry going on thirty

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Speaker 2: plus years. These two teams have been in the biggest

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Speaker 2: games in the biggest sport now for decades.

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Speaker 1: John Madden, the Great Late John Madden, used to have

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Speaker 1: a line and he used it at Fox and Management

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Speaker 1: often kind of hearkens back to it. Does the game

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Speaker 1: sound big?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco Niners sounds gigantic, Dallas Packers sounds Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. It just doesn't sound that bag. A couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago, Jacksonville Chargers, it just doesn't sound that big.

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Speaker 2: Well, you could argue this is the best Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the Cowboys being in it, given the

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Speaker 2: quantity of people, But the second best matchup would be

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Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers against Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, no, no, I think it's listen, it's again people.

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Speaker 2: I would say the nine get to the NFC Championship

1340
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Speaker 2: for that ever to happen. But you just know what

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: The brand, The Niners are the Yankees of the West.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers are popular, but it's the NBA. I think

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Speaker 1: the Niners are even bigger than the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: How many Niner fans live in Los Angeles?

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Speaker 1: Did you see this year? Was it? This year? The

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01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: Niners played?

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Speaker 2: The last three years? Colin They sell that place out.

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Speaker 2: They call it Niner South.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, I mean, I went to Starbucks this morning,

1351
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: so I got a great workout in I went to Starbucks.

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01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: There are three guys and Niners full Niners gear. It

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Speaker 1: was like eight point fifty and I'm like, and then

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Speaker 1: where else did I go? Oh? I had to go

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Speaker 1: to a pharmacy and there were two more Niner hats

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Speaker 1: in there, and I'm like, people, just when you're in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, it is Dodger hats, Lakers shirts, and Niner hats.

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Speaker 2: You know. Kyle always had said before he took the

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Speaker 2: Niners job that he was only going to go to

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Speaker 2: a job that he felt had a good quarterback situation

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Speaker 2: because he had seen so many people fail. And then

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Speaker 2: the nine offer in the job, well, he had been

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Speaker 2: there with his dad when Steve Young and they were

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Speaker 2: winning Super Bowl, so it's hard to say no. And

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Speaker 2: he went because of the power of his experience there

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Speaker 2: and when you win with the forty nine ers, like,

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Speaker 2: to me, they were one of the biggest brands of

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Speaker 2: my lifetime any sport. I mean, they they've just been

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Speaker 2: to think of the good and now I mean they

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Speaker 2: are just rattling like they're a bigger brand than Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Obviously Kansas City could win back to back Super Bowls,

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Speaker 2: but it's not even close in terms of fans.

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Speaker 1: And it's fascinating how many interesting quarterbacks, John Brody, uh

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Speaker 1: into Montana, into Steve Young, even like into Kaepernick. Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith was caping.

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01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,759
Speaker 2: Parstin, was going to Pro Bowls, going to Totoe with Far.

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Speaker 1: And then now then they had Garoppolo, got him do

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Speaker 1: a Super Now it's brought pretty. They haven't all been great,

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Speaker 1: Montana Young were, but they've always had interesting core, even Kaepernick,

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Speaker 1: they've had interesting quarterback stories and good enough to win

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Speaker 1: a bunch of games. I mean, god it they got

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Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl with Kaepernick, Garoppolo and now pretty.

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Speaker 1: How many organizations could do that?

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Speaker 2: Do you think the reason brock is such a polarizing

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: story just simply his draft spot or simply because of

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01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 2: his draft spot and he's the forty nine ers quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't. Here's what I think. I don't

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01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: think he's polarizing. I think it's we live in a

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Speaker 1: debate culture and I fall into the I think he's good.

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Speaker 1: I don't know think he's great. I think he's good.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's big enough of his arm, but

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Speaker 1: he's good. And I thought his second half the day

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01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: running around, he was really good. And then there's those

1394
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: that say, you know, my buddy Jason McIntyre, he's great.

1395
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, now that scouts know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are these occasional Kurt Warner stories are

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Speaker 1: Antonio Gates or GMS and both of those, by the way,

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Speaker 1: there were circumstances why they didn't get drafted. But I

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Speaker 1: think there is this he's great, he's this. I think

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Speaker 1: Brock Purtty is a good quarterback. If I argued he's

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins with mobility, that's a pretty good quarterback. C J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud is Jared Goff with mobility, that's a pretty good quarterback.

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01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: So if I said to you, he wames Jared, Listen,

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01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: you win a lot of games with Kirk Cousins. Imagine

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01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: if he could move, Oh you can, It's called Brock.

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Speaker 1: Pretty that's what he is. Exactly When when when when

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Speaker 1: c J. Stroud came out, all the scouts were like,

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Speaker 1: he's Jared Goff, Well he is, really, except he moves better. Shit,

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Speaker 1: Jared's good without moving, So what's he like when he moves?

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Speaker 1: So I think I think the comp is like c J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud to me, is I mean Jared throws a beautiful

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01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: Stroud throws a beautiful ball. He just moves better, So

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Speaker 1: I think I think brought pretty feels like to me,

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Speaker 1: kind of a pedestrian arm pedestrian average, yeah, pedestrian body,

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Speaker 1: but he moves.

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Speaker 2: And that's a good player and he makes place yea

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Speaker 2: in big spots. All right, buddy, see you go.

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, former NFL scout We love him. Three and

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