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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five, Tony Cody five fifty.

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Speaker 3: And the kick as block the college football world stunners.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, he stumbled and bubble the lateral Tony

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Speaker 3: corner of the exod.

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Speaker 1: Don't you believe that.

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Speaker 2: Cable off the field to night.

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Speaker 3: It's not the side of the dog in the fight.

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Speaker 1: It's the side of the fight in the dog.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presented by

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Speaker 2: bet MGM. I'm your host, Tim Kalanowski of Action Network,

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Speaker 2: joined mostly by BCS themselves, the heartbeat of our college

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Speaker 2: football coverage. We got Colin Wilson stucky and then Mike

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Speaker 2: Calabrese is off the bench this week filling in for

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Speaker 2: Brett McMurphy. Brett was down in Stillwater for bedlam. It's

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Speaker 2: probably I guess it's going to take him a week

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Speaker 2: after that. Maybe he followed the goalposts down to the

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Speaker 2: river pond whatever sort of water they threw that into.

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Speaker 2: Have not been down to Stillwater, so I couldn't tell you,

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Speaker 2: but I think, guys, we're going to start with the

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Speaker 2: SEC Alabama. They beat LSU forty two to twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: Georgia over Missouri thirty to twenty one. And when you

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Speaker 2: look at that says that this SEC picture is getting

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Speaker 2: quite clear. It looks like we're on a collision course

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Speaker 2: for Georgia in Alabama in that title game. And it

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Speaker 2: leads me to let off with the question, I guess

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Speaker 2: I'll get Stucky's little piece on this is their value

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Speaker 2: now at Alabama seven to one to win the National

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Speaker 2: Championship on bet MGM, is this where we should be

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Speaker 2: looking at this? BAMA team has answered a lot of questions.

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Speaker 4: Uh, now, there's there's not value. I mean, look, they

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Speaker 4: could lose, they could lose at Kentucky this weekend, but

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Speaker 4: like even if you just ignore that game, let's ignore

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Speaker 4: that game. Let's even ignore at Auburn where weird things

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Speaker 4: can happen and they could lose that game, and then

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Speaker 4: let's ignore obviously they're going to be Chattanooga. So SEC

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Speaker 4: Championship against Georgia, let's just for conservatives, we'll call to pick,

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Speaker 4: and then let's call the first semi final a pick

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Speaker 4: and the National championship a pick. Okay, just for ease

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Speaker 4: of this exercise, that's plus one hundred plus one hundred

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Speaker 4: plus one hundred seven to one just for them to

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Speaker 4: win the SEC Championship in two College Twell playoff games.

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Speaker 4: And you're not even accounting for the fact that they

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Speaker 4: could lose at Kentucky or at Georgia. People are forgetting

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Speaker 4: like they almost lost at A and M. You know,

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Speaker 4: Arkansas only lost by three. Yeah, they beat the shit

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Speaker 4: out of one of the worst Power five defenses in

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Speaker 4: college football. Like it's not I don't think anything has

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Speaker 4: changed that much. But my if you really do love Alabama,

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Speaker 4: money line rollover start up in Lexington this weekend. It's

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Speaker 4: gonna pay more than seven to one. These markets generally

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Speaker 4: don't have much value. The hold is too big, and

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Speaker 4: especially like a trendy name like Alabama after a big

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Speaker 4: win over LSU, money line rollover if you like them,

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Speaker 4: because if your money line rollover, I'm starting the SEC

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Speaker 4: Championship assuming they get there, You're gonna get seven to

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Speaker 4: one or around there, So zero value.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'm guessing too. You wouldn't include Chad

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Speaker 2: Nooga in the money line rollover, but Colin.

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Speaker 4: Good you can pick up. You could pick up a

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Speaker 4: couple cents a couple of cents.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, fair enough. I would be ignoring that game

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Speaker 2: if I was going to do the exercise Couland, do

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Speaker 2: you tend to concur with Stuckey here?

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Speaker 5: Yes and no. I mean I think Alabama does have

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Speaker 5: a little bit of value, But seven to one is

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Speaker 5: Alabama right now. That's Oregon, Michigan, and Georgia. Two of

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Speaker 5: those might have to be ones that Alabama would have

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Speaker 5: If you were simply just a parlay not forget Alabama,

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Speaker 5: it just parlay three games at minus one ten. You're

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Speaker 5: So it's if you got the ability to have a

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Speaker 5: assuming it would all be within minus two or plus two,

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Speaker 5: that the ten horn game that Alabama's going to play.

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Speaker 5: But really none of the numbers on the board have

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Speaker 5: I don't want things thrown at me on this podcast

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Speaker 5: or show, is Penn State at one hundred to one.

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Speaker 5: Right now, Iowa would win them the tiebreaker. Now you

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Speaker 5: need Penn State to beat Michigan, and you know you

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Speaker 5: conference championship. So the only two teams I guess isges

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Speaker 1: And Penn State.

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Speaker 4: You agree, it's at the parlay it pays more, And

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Speaker 4: like they're only a ten point favor at Kentucky, Like

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Speaker 4: you have to include that too.

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Speaker 5: They go lose that game, right, come on, They're not

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Speaker 5: gonna lose the Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying they could and that's included in the futures price,

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Speaker 4: so you include that in your money line rollover too.

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Speaker 4: You're we're only talking about the three games. If they

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Speaker 4: lose to Kentucky, they're out. So you start your money

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Speaker 4: the three more games. You even also have Auburn. We've

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Speaker 4: seen weird things happened between now, but so that's another

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Speaker 4: uh moneyline rollover point. Like this price is basically just

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Speaker 4: assuming Alabama is already in the SEC title yep, and

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Speaker 4: then that's your money line rollover. But you have two

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Speaker 4: other games that they technically could lose. If not, you're

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Speaker 4: still you still include them in your bet to start

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but none of these now are are suitable for buying.

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Speaker 5: I mean, but that's that's that's the way that it

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Speaker 2: I love what We're also able to squeeze in some

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Speaker 2: we've been we've been touching on nearly every week. It

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Speaker 2: feels like, also stucky, the money that two keys and

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Speaker 4: You know fact, Yeah, it sucks a second awesome alabavhants

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Speaker 4: if it's at noon, but you know, just like for

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Speaker 4: the bars, it's not ideal. But if they do beat Alabama,

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Speaker 2: Take us, Oh, you've been doing a lot of nodding

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Speaker 1: I love the way that they laid out talking about

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Speaker 1: the rollover, and this essentially is Vegas speaking to casuals

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Speaker 1: to be able to roll over a week after week.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason whatsoever you should take seven to one

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Speaker 1: if you're interested in them actually winning the national title.

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Speaker 1: I am interested in Jalen Milroe because in the market

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Speaker 1: you can still get him at sixty six to one

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Speaker 1: to win the Heisman. I understand that LSU had a

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Speaker 1: that performance on national television to put them back into

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff race. With the opponents they have left,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Marquee opportunities to be able to

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Speaker 1: to win the Heisman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's be a bigger payoff than all of those rollovers.

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Speaker 2: I want to hop over to out west Pac twelve

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Speaker 2: and get your guys opinion on this. Caleb Williams crying

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Speaker 2: It's it's been very interesting, Stucky. I'll ask you one,

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Speaker 4: No? No, I mean who cares us? He's done. They're

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Speaker 4: I mean, USC's irrelevant. They fired Alex Grinch. But here's

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Speaker 4: who he hires next. But from everything I've heard, Lincoln

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Speaker 4: So I'm not expecting a good hire. But in a way,

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Speaker 4: see who he hires, But no, I don't care. I'm

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Speaker 4: curious to see if Caleb Lims plays the rest of

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Speaker 2: And would you think of the tears?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I could care less. I mean, I think

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Speaker 5: showing emotions should be promoted and not bullied. But you know,

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Speaker 5: us take our share of social media roasting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: First of all, no more slander on Gannon University. Go

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Speaker 1: in and you were just like, yeah, Ravens and Steelers

433
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 1: never get to play ever again, just because Peacock or

434
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,199
Speaker 1: Discovery TV or Al Jazeera two bought the contract for

435
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 1: the NFL, Like it's just such horseshit, and I've just

436
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 1: had it, like the amount of rivalries that mean something

437
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 1: so much to both schools or even just one school, Like, yes,

438
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: it was amazing for Oklahoma State. I'm glad that they

439
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: have this, but I think in like four or five years,

440
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 1: they'd be, you know, obviously wishing like everyone else, it'd

441
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: be great if we could just play these guys in

442
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: November again and be able to look forward to that.

443
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 1: So that's where my frustration is. And then on the

444
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 1: look ahead, I look at OU. They're laying thirteen to

445
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 1: a West Virginia team that I think is a lot

446
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 1: better than what I expected, and I like Green Their

447
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 1: quarterback a lot. I feel like that is just too

448
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: many points. That's like a look ahead spot that I'm

449
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: looking to target it and punch in early in the

450
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: week here, because emotionally the letdown, even though they did

451
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: play well against Oklahoma State, and I agree with Stuck's

452
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: assessment that they got a little bit snake bit in

453
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 1: that game. With two straight losses, it is a tough

454
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: game to get up for to absolutely blow the doors

455
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: off a West Virginia team that's been improved year over

456
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: year under Neil Brown.

457
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: I also think Calbary still be looking at maybe some

458
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 2: green rushing or touchdown numbers as well. If I could

459
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: just get the pulse of you here, how about this

460
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 2: with this game being gone, obviously it's lost for all

461
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: of us college football calibrese if you could only watch

462
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 2: one rivalry game for the rest of your college football viewing,

463
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: what matchup are you picking?

464
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: A part of me wanted to like get a little

465
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 1: bit childish here and like pull like a new vo

466
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: G five one. But if I'm gonna be honest, it's

467
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: just the Iron Bowl. I just love the Iron Bowl.

468
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: I love what it means to both programs. If you've

469
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: spent any time in the state Alabama doesn't have to

470
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: be football season. You mean, there's two seasons, Football season,

471
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 1: then there's spring football season. So like everybody is talking

472
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: about it all year round, and what it means to

473
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 1: the Auburn community when they spark that upset like that

474
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: to me just from a viewing perspective, and like putting

475
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 1: together a movie every Saturday late in November, that like

476
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 1: becomes iconic. It's that game. So I don't want that

477
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: one to go away, holl And how about you?

478
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 2: Oh, I was.

479
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 5: Gonna go with Iron Bull because I think kick six

480
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 5: is the greatest thing that if this has ever happened

481
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 5: in college football, it's just you fok. But I'm gonna

482
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 5: go with the Egg Bowl because every Thanksgiving Night it

483
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 5: is the most it is. It delivers. Every single year,

484
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 5: coaches get fired, coaches it hired. The entire college football

485
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 5: landscape has to be unnoticed. When Ole Miss and Mississippi

486
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 5: State play each other, you want to wonder about Matt

487
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 5: Luke getting fired, how Lane Kiffin ended up in Oxford,

488
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 5: how Mike Leech ended up down in Starkville, Like all

489
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 5: of it is because of things that happened in the

490
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 5: Egg Bowl the Egg Bowl delivers every year. I would

491
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 5: never want that one to go away. And plus you

492
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 5: have two teams that I literally think would rather just

493
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 5: take their pads off and get into a fistfight instead

494
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 5: of playing football.

495
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: True hate, true hate. Stucky. What about you?

496
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 4: It's got to be Kent State acron for the wagon wheel,

497
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 4: but a seriousness. If you could get a rivalry and

498
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 4: an entire entire weekend of college football, why would you

499
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 4: not take that? What are you gonna What are you

500
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 4: gonna do Week fifteen if you don't have Army Navy.

501
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 4: So I'm going Army Navy. It's the only game for

502
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 4: an entire weekend. The pageantry, the show before and after

503
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 4: I grew up going to the game. It's service academies.

504
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 4: It's my most profitable whenever they're involved. That's one of

505
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 4: my most profitable angles. So I love betting Service Academy game.

506
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 4: So from a betting viewing, and it's the only game

507
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 4: on one weekend. Yeah, I'm going. I'm going to Army

508
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 4: Navy because rivalries are getting watered down with new conference

509
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 4: re alignment, but the one that will never be watered

510
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 4: down is Army Navy.

511
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: Great pick, great pick. I think I would. I'm surprised

512
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: No High State Michigan.

513
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 4: I think I would probably beat That would be my second.

514
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would probably go iron Bolt one that too,

515
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 2: Marblehead swamp Scott every Thanksgiving that that's probably up there

516
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: as well. But how about we go to Machin. We

517
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: have a pretty loaded slate this week. We want to

518
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: go by game by game here if we could call

519
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: and I'll start you if we could, if you have

520
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: a nugget or anything on one of the three Tuesday games,

521
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: and we'll go from there.

522
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 5: Well, I'm definitely tentative on taking an under with all

523
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 5: of these games. That's what I did last week, and

524
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 5: they just got smoked. I mean, Akron and Kent were

525
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 5: firing off over sixty points, which is a little bit

526
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 5: of a shock to me. But every home team also

527
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 5: won and covered last week. That one kind of got me.

528
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 5: Maybe it's a Tuesday night thing, maybe it's a Wednesday

529
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 5: night thing, but I'm willing to play on that. This

530
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 5: week with Ball State and Northern Illinois, ball State is

531
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 5: eliminated for ballseason, they must win. This is a must

532
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 5: win for Northern Illinois, who needs two of their final

533
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 5: three to make it to ballseason and the Huskies. They

534
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 5: didn't even attend to play in the first half last week,

535
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 5: like they were arm tackling. They were just ola and

536
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 5: guys through Then they showed up in the second half

537
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 5: against Central Michigan. They scored twenty eight points. This is

538
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 5: a good football team, I guess whenever they decide that

539
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 5: they want to play. They lost by six last week,

540
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 5: so now they're really under the gun against a team

541
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 5: that should be completely lifeless. I may it's seven. I

542
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 5: think the spread is a little bit too high, but

543
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 5: considering what MAC teams are doing at home so far

544
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 5: with this really small sample set, I'll probably go Northern

545
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 5: Illinois in the first half, which is at five and

546
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 5: a half, I think this might come creeping down from

547
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 5: ten on the game, So I think I'm going to wait,

548
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 5: but it will be Northern Illinois in the first half

549
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 5: or full game.

550
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Northern Illinois laying ten right now, stucky. Any thoughts

551
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: on this game?

552
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually would disagree. I Ball State was a

553
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 4: buy on team for me. You know, they had a

554
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 4: really tough opening season schedule. They played what Kentucky and Georgia,

555
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 4: so they got really beat up to start the year.

556
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 4: But they and they went to their third quarterback, Kelly,

557
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 4: who was more of a runner, and they've run just

558
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 4: like this really basic read option. They were really good

559
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 4: running back in Cooper, one of the best in the MAC.

560
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 4: And look, it's not they don't have many weapons on

561
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 4: the outside. They also lost Birdie Hunt, their best tight

562
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: end for the season. But I think leaning into that

563
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: running game is it was the right idea with Kelly,

564
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 4: who has wheels and he looked more comfortable in running

565
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 4: the offense made some throws last week against Bowling Green

566
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 4: and the three point loss. So they're just run heavy

567
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 4: now and they want to ugly up the games. And

568
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 4: you can run on Northern Illinois. Northern LLINOI secondary surprising

569
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 4: been very good, but their run dy has been bad.

570
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think this is a bit too many points. Calvaryes,

571
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 4: do you want to share any thoughts on that game?

572
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, just quick. I like the team total over on

573
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois. If Rukowitz is back for them, Casper, their

574
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver is he was questionable last week. He's questionable here.

575
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: If that's just one added weapon for them, I think

576
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: they could absolutely blow past their team total twenty six.

577
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: Even with that early season gauntlet that ball State went through.

578
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: We kind of know what they are at this point.

579
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: They're ninety fourth and success rate one hundred and sixth

580
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: then havoc, So I think NIU is going to be

581
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: able to move the ball and score here. I'm not

582
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: going to mess with the spread. I think there's a

583
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: good chance that they kind of play a little lifelessly

584
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: on defense, as they did last week. I don't want

585
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: to get involved in that, so I'll just go on

586
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: the team total. Are you serious an getta love it?

587
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: Stuck? Where are we going?

588
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: Western Michigan? I think Western Michigan's probably the look against

589
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 4: Central Michigan. Central Michigan is sitting at five and four

590
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: on the season, but I mean it's a team that's

591
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 4: won a ton of close games. There's not much to

592
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 4: really like about this roster. Berda Manuel. He had the

593
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 4: upside coming into the year. It just never came to fruition.

594
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 4: And this Western Michigan team they lost so much from

595
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: last year and they had a new head coach, so

596
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 4: it was a struggle early in the season, but they

597
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 4: played a lot better of late. One of the reasons

598
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 4: is they fought They went to a third quarterback to

599
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 4: all these teams have used like ten quarterbacks, but they

600
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: went to a third quarterback, Hayden Wolf, the Old Dominion transfer,

601
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 4: and he's given the offense and juice. The freshman running

602
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: backs also have been pretty good. So I think Western

603
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: Michigan's a team that's kind of trending up. And you know,

604
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 4: Central Michigan, they've picked up some wins, but that been

605
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 4: pretty fortunate in close games, so I think Western Michigan's

606
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 4: probably looked there.

607
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Western Michigan laying three, Colin, do you have a

608
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: thought on this game?

609
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 5: The under? For me, I said, I didn't really want

610
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 5: to play any unders here. It's a number that I

611
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 5: make in forty eight. And I think the Central Michigan

612
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 5: total in their game last week is completely fraudulent because

613
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 5: Northern Illinois literally did not want to play once they

614
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 5: saw the snow on the field last week. So I

615
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 5: do like the under here, but I'm going to check

616
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 5: the weather make sure this isn't a thing where the

617
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 5: kids just don't want to come out and get out

618
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 5: of their coats and play, because that's what happened last week.

619
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, make the number forty eight.

620
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: That was also just a classic snover like slippery conditions. Yeah,

621
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: it's that's what happens in the MAC. But there's not

622
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: supposed to be any weather for what it's worth. I mean,

623
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: Tuesday night in Calumazoo, it's going to be forty degrees.

624
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be a guy that would want to

625
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: just keep my jacket on a Tuesday night calum Bresee

626
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: any thought on this game.

627
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: This one's a pass for me. I guess if I'm

628
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: just looking at the value, maybe the Chips money line,

629
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: just because I know that at least they can run

630
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: and hit the home run on the grounds. Luke said

631
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: to Two last week, Bauer can really run. But outside

632
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: of that, I kind of agree with Stock's assessment, where

633
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, if you flipped one or two of those

634
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: one possession games that they had to win, like their

635
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: whole season, the outlook is completely different and western I agree.

636
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of hidden in the box score and the

637
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: fact that they're still losing by double digits in some

638
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: of those games, but they have played a lot better.

639
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: So just from a value perspective, if it was like

640
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: plus one fifty, maybe I'd consider the Chips, But outside

641
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: of that, it's a past.

642
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: Ohio is seven at Buffalo Colin quick thought.

643
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 5: I think the numbers a little bit too high. I

644
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 5: think it should be six. Can you back Buffalo, It's

645
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 5: a little scary to do that. I would say they're

646
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 5: going to be able to probably limit Ohio in points.

647
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on Ohio. They were kind

648
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 5: of embarrassing. It's mine in Ohio. I don't know where

649
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 5: they're at with that explosive offense. So I would say

650
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 5: Buffalo at seven stuck.

651
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I'll probably be on Buffalo. And I

652
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 4: hate this Buffalo team. I bade them a lot. I

653
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: think they're terrible, but this should be a lower scoring game.

654
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: Don't hate the under Buffalo has no explosiveness whatsoever. They

655
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 4: also do a good job of limiting explosiveness. Ohio has

656
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: no explosiveness either in their offense. This offense is broken.

657
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: I don't know they're running back carries. Distribution doesn't make

658
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 4: any sense to me. And I don't know why Alison

659
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: gets so many carries. But they lost Jacoby Jones early

660
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 4: in the season to a season ending injury, and he

661
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 4: averaged I think eighteen yards per catch last year and

662
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 4: right right around the same about this year, and that

663
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: took away all the exposedness in the offense. He was

664
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 4: the deep shot. He opened up everything underneath for Wigless

665
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 4: and company. And now Ohio can't really run it and

666
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 4: they have nothing downfield, so everything is in this box

667
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 4: and it's all up to the Maple missile Rourke to

668
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: get it done with like short passing, and it's just

669
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: not an efficient offense right now. The defense has been

670
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 4: pretty good, but I think that they're a bit overrated

671
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 4: in that aspect as well. Buffalo has to win out

672
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 4: for bo eligibility. Ohio might be a little deflated after

673
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 4: losing to my Ohio. That pretty much like put them

674
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: behind the eight balls. Winning this division mina, Ohio is

675
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: a massive favorite. So with the seven and what I

676
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 4: think is gonna be a lower scoring game, I think

677
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 4: you got to look.

678
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: The bulls here, Calibris the caboose.

679
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this will letdown spot for Ohio. I'll take Buffalo

680
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: first half plus three and a half. Their defense actually

681
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: rounded the pretty decent shape and I agree like when

682
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: I watch Ohio, the way that they run their offense,

683
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: given the skill position players that they have, just doesn't

684
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense in terms of what they

685
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: put on the field and how they utilize players and

686
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: how they string together plays for drives, like this is

687
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: a team that won five in a row this year.

688
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: They beat Iowa State. But I have to like put

689
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: all that aside and just look at the last couple

690
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: of weeks. There's just something wrong with them. And mentally

691
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: it can be very difficult to know that you had

692
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: the East up for grabs against a backup quarterback at

693
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: Miami Ohio and you laid an egg. So I'll go

694
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: ahead and take the Bulls plus three and a half

695
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: in the first half.

696
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: That's matchit for sionify right. That is the Tuesday Max slate.

697
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: As we go through here, just real quick to Wednesday, Colin,

698
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: I'll let you get first dibbs on a game on

699
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: the Wednesday Sleep.

700
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 5: I would take Acron here, but I mean it's better

701
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 5: to let them get down by thirty five and take

702
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 5: them live on the money line. But you know, Miami Ohio,

703
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: what are we playing for here? I mean, you have

704
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: what sole lead in the division, you have a timebreaker

705
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 5: and play I don't know what you're playing for, and

706
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 5: I don't know why you need to beat anybody by

707
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: eighteen points. Could they dominate Acron on paper. Sure, everything

708
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 5: says that they should win this game by nineteen and

709
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 5: a half points. I'm not sure why they would want

710
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 5: to have all their starters out there and be beating

711
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 5: somebody by three scores at this point in the season.

712
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 5: So for that reason alone, I think Akron has some value.

713
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, mayam Ohio laying seventeen and a half eighteen stucky,

714
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: do you have a thought on this game?

715
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: I don't know how Acron scores, and I've had a

716
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: defense is legit, so yeah, I would totals forty two.

717
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: I can't play an Acrod under, but I also can't

718
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 4: play Acrod. I mean this is a pass for me, Breece.

719
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: Let's go on a team total over on the RedHawks.

720
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: I know that they may empty their bench. I know

721
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: that they may not be interested in having their foot

722
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: down on the accelerator, but the Akron D is one

723
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty fourth and explosives allowed. Like, you can

724
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: hit three or four plays over fifty yards in this

725
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: game and be right on your way to going over

726
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: the team total over.

727
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: So that's how I play it, all right, Colin Bowling

728
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: Green Kent Steak.

729
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I make the can State Bowling Green thirty three

730
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 5: that could get laughed at. But again with Ken, Saint

731
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 5: and Acron scoring sixty points, so I think forty one

732
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 5: has some value on the under there.

733
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: Stucky, do you have something on this Bowling Green Kent

734
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: State game.

735
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about playing Kent, but I don't I don't

736
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 4: know if I can actually put my money behind Ken

737
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: State's only covered one game all year at Arkansas. Yep,

738
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 4: the Dan. He knows Arkansas team, but and they also

739
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 4: lost their top receiver McCrae last week to an injury.

740
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 4: I doubt he's gonna look nasty, Dad, he's gonna play.

741
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: But Bowling Green, I mean they first of all, they've

742
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 4: been so fortunate with turnover, so there's some regression coming.

743
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 4: And their entire offense is Terry on Stot running the ball,

744
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 4: and he's a really good running back. They can't really

745
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: throw it. They don't have many weapons on the outside,

746
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: and as he basically was on close to I look

747
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 4: like he's gonna have to be on crutches at the

748
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 4: end of the game. I think he was a super

749
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: high ankle sprain. I doubt he plays. Keith is okay

750
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 4: better out of the backfield catching the ball his backup,

751
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: but now their depths really hurt, and he was just

752
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 4: the focal point of that offense. So reluctantly as of now,

753
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: I lean Kent State, but god, they're so bad.

754
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why you follow Stucky in the award winning

755
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: action app to see if he will actually have a

756
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: play on the Golden Flashes calib brief anything.

757
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: This is just a gross mac under. I'll just go

758
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: under forty one and a half. The Bowling Green defense,

759
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: I agree they are very fortunate with their turnoverlock, but

760
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: overall they just have solid numbers, particularly by max standards.

761
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: They've only given up sixteen points per game across their

762
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: last three and Kent State last week that was their shot.

763
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: That was their shot for an FBS win. They blew it.

764
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's as big of emotional letdown

765
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: for like a school like Ohio, but a chance to

766
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: win a division title or at least wrap one up.

767
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: But I think everything's just trending down for them. So

768
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: I see this being like a seventeen to six kind

769
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: of win for Bowling Green. Just get out of there

770
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: because you got your own problems in terms of injuries

771
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: on offense, and just move on to the next game. Also,

772
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: a win here gets Bowling green to Bowl eligibility, so

773
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: I think you are going to see a focused effort

774
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: from the Falcons.

775
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: I love Mattion, I love match Fallen. Just close this

776
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: out real quick. On Eastern Michigan and Toledo. Toledo laying

777
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: in the eighteen range there over under forty six and.

778
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 5: A half Toledo, I like them to cover this number here.

779
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 5: Every home team won at home last week, but Jason

780
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 5: Kandall's the one who wants to keep his offense in

781
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 5: sync here, So I think Eastern Michigan is one of

782
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 5: the worst teams in all of the MAX. So take

783
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 5: I would take Toledo and small the points.

784
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: Stucky.

785
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 4: This is a bad matchup Preastter Michigan. They have no

786
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 4: offense whatsoever. It is a bottom five offense. They can't

787
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 4: really do anything. And now you're going up against a

788
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: legit Toledo defense that so I don't know how Eastern

789
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: Michigan really scores here. And the Eastern Michigan secondary is

790
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: the only bright spot on their team. You know, Scandled

791
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 4: at safety, shine at corner, and they have this kid

792
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 4: Jake one, right, I think his name is a true freshman.

793
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 4: He's been graded out. It's one of the best corners

794
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: in the country. He's been fantastic. So their secondary has

795
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: been pretty good. Everything else is bad, I mean everything so,

796
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 4: but Toledo wants to run the ball, and you can

797
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 4: run all over Eastern Michigan, so they should be able

798
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 4: just to run down Eastern Michigan's throat hit a bunch

799
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 4: of explosives in that aspect as well. I know Chris

800
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 4: Crayton's their Eastern Michigan's head coach as good as an underdog.

801
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 4: They're well coached because they won't get a ton of penalties.

802
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 4: They're good on special teams. But they're just overmatch here.

803
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: I don't know how they score, and I don't know

804
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 4: how they stop Toledo's rushing attack.

805
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 2: Calabris, can you Eastern Michigan score no, which is.

806
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: Why I'd look for them on a live number of

807
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: Toledo scores first field goal, touchdown. Maybe I'm interested because

808
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: you got to remember, this is a rocket team that's

809
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: two and three against the spread and MAC play. They're

810
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: eighth against the spread in terms of margin. In the MAC.

811
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: You know they fall below the closing number by four

812
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: points per game. So Candle and this team historically they

813
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: have their mess arounds game every so often in Mac play,

814
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: and they're already not just you know, an ironclad Locke

815
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: as clearly the most powerful team in the conference to

816
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: run away with games. But eighteen and a half still

817
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: not enough for this This Eagles offense is it's a disaster.

818
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't see how they can even generate let's call it,

819
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: ten points in this game. So I got to get

820
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: a nice juicy number on a live line, maybe an overreaction,

821
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,360
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Speaker 2: data you going to fill in for us?

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Speaker 4: It may sound easy, but it will test your head

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Speaker 4: and your mind and your brain too.

834
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Speaker 1: There I go.

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Speaker 4: Cloudn't claim to be No.

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Speaker 1: Thirty six a c T. Of course I did. All right,

837
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: here we go. It's the BCS show, So why don't

838
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: I have a trivia question here that includes the BCS?

839
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: All right? If you take the old school one v.

840
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: Two in the BCS era and the College Football Playoff

841
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: seven have been oh so close, but it failed to

842
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: make it either to the BCS title Game or the

843
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: College foo Ball Playoff. So that means in the BCS

844
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: era pre Bowls, they finished in that third, fourth or

845
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: fifth slot, and in the College Football Playoff era they

846
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: finished in that five through seven slot. There's seven teams.

847
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: Five of them have done this twice, one of them

848
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: has done it three times, and one is snake bit

849
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: in such an incredible way they've done it four times.

850
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 2: So this is basically the just missed it question.

851
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: This is the just missed it programs of college football

852
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety eight.

853
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna either write this down, so not

854
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 4: five through eight. Basically, I'm com blatantly lost.

855
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: Five through seven in the College foo Ball Playoff era,

856
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: and then three through five in the BCS era ninety

857
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: eight through twenty thirteen. One final caveat always the bridesmaids.

858
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: They never made the BCS title game. They never made

859
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff.

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00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 5: I'm ready, all right, Colin, kick us off next, saying him, no.

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00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 4: No, they made it. Touch they made a PCs.

862
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 5: They're like fifth every year.

863
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: They never made the BCS title game.

864
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 5: Either, never made the Collegeable Playoff, but they're like fifth. Yeah, No,

865
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 5: they're not one of the teams.

866
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: Huh.

867
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: So these teams never made both.

868
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they never made the BCS title game. They never

869
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: made the College Ruble Playoff. I actually thought as I

870
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: was thinking of this question, Colin, Oh, it had to

871
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: be A and M, and I was like, I'll just

872
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: go to the Johnny football year where they surged down

873
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: the stretch. They were like eight or ninth when they

874
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: went to that Cotton Bowl, so they weren't quite in

875
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: the outside looking into the Collegeable Playoff becausey had two losses. Wow,

876
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: Colorado incorrect. Alorado did it once when they were I

877
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: want to say it was two thousand and one, that

878
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: BCS year where they beat the breaks off of Nebraska

879
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: at the end of the regular season. Then they had

880
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: that crazy win over Chris Simms and Major Apple White

881
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve title game and they were left

882
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: at third instead they sent up though that was a question.

883
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: Teams that were through.

884
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: But they only did it once. There was only that

885
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: one time where they did it. These other schools have

886
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: all done it at least twice. One school schools four times.

887
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: Okay, it's me Oklahoma State also incorrect.

888
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State has not done it.

889
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 5: My BCS brain's going off here. I have to dip

890
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 5: way back. Let's go with Missouri incorrect. They had a

891
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 5: year though, wasn't the Chase Daniel year right there? They

892
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 5: almost played for the nationalite Damn all right?

893
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was seven. They were right on the doorstep.

894
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: But that was the only time they did it. Penn State,

895
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: En State has done it twice, So that's the first

896
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: one on the board.

897
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: You're correct, that was my guess I ever written down.

898
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 4: Well, I'll get a cold with another one.

899
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: Now, how about oh, miss incorrect?

900
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 5: Kansas State's coming up to mind.

901
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: The state is correct, absolutely, and the state on the list.

902
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: So you guys got two of the two timers, you're

903
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: missing three other two timers, a three timer and a

904
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: four timer. It was Cancer Johnson is correct.

905
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna be my next guess.

906
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: Now, you guys, now, you guys are rolling.

907
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: Okay, West Virginia incorrect.

908
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: I suck.

909
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear any laughing out of anyone

910
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 5: with this. Let's go with the uh, what is it

911
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 5: the Collie Massi National champions? What were the Collie Matrix?

912
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 5: Let's go with Central Florida incorrect?

913
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 4: Iowa correct?

914
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: All right, now we're cooking a guess. You need one

915
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: more two timer and then the three timer and the

916
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: four timer. I'll they played in the national title in

917
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: ninety nine against Florida State.

918
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: I was one year old.

919
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: He's just a baby. Can we go Boise State? Boise

920
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: State only did it once. U It was I want

921
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: to say twenty ten when they were right there at

922
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: third and then they had it, well, they didn't even

923
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: do it. They had a chance to. And then Colin

924
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: Kaepernick knocked him out on Black Friday in that double over.

925
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 5: Tech Liberty was what seven January seven, But they came

926
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: into that Fiesta Bowl like tenth or ninth in the country.

927
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: Oh crap, because they had no schedule back then.

928
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: Uh, let's go Stanford.

929
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: Stanford is the ultimate just on the outside looking at team.

930
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: They've done it four times, so you guys are down

931
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: to the very last one.

932
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: It's a fun game.

933
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: Utah incorrect.

934
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 5: Oh man, every time I come across the name, it's

935
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 5: like there's one little slippery they got in. I'll go

936
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 5: to Mississippi State incorrect.

937
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 4: Uh, cal Nope.

938
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: Stick in the same conference UCLA incorrect.

939
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: Us they did it.

940
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: I want to say once.

941
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: They were probably fifth that first year in ninety eight.

942
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: Don't think anyone.

943
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 5: Said Louisville Sugar, Louisville go Louisville incorrect. Incorrect. All right,

944
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 5: Tennessee champions.

945
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 4: Oh they won, Yeah, won the fucking ninety eight. I

946
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 4: lost my time.

947
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 5: B T Martin Baby, that's for Tim Well, he's named

948
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 5: after T.

949
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: Higgins is named after So I do know that North

950
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: Carolina incorrect.

951
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 5: Looking at this list of teams is like, none of

952
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 5: these could be the answer.

953
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 4: I think I got it.

954
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 5: I better come up with a good one here. You

955
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 5: know what, there was a time when Nebraska football was good.

956
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: I'll go with Nebraska.

957
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 5: Nnamaconsou should have won the damn Heisman, So I'll go

958
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 5: to Nebraska.

959
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: They did play for the one Natty when they got

960
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: obliterated by Miami.

961
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 5: Yep, that's right, Rolch.

962
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go USC. Nope, Oh duh, no back to back?

963
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: Oh you are dumb.

964
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: Sometimes, Yes, I'm an idiot.

965
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 5: That's the thing. The little single BCS national championship games

966
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 5: get you.

967
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: You can parachute in as a big winner.

968
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: Here, Tim, I was praying Stucky would get it so

969
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: I didn't have to give another guess. Washington State.

970
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 5: No, okay, I got it because the initial College Football

971
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 5: Playoff ranking this team was right there, and then there

972
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 5: were other teams where they had a Heisman winner. So

973
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 5: I'll go Baylor.

974
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: Baylor is correct three times it has done it, which

975
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: is incredible, but the Stanford one always blows my mind.

976
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: Between that and how many Heisman runner ups they've had,

977
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: They've been on the cusp of college football greatness for

978
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: a while now, but not what was the list again?

979
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: So Stanford four times, Baylor three times, Ioka State, Penn State, Wisconsin,

980
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: and you guys got another one, I feel like, but

981
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: excellently deleted it.

982
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: So let's guess the one we forgot.

983
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 5: In other words, we're winging it as usual.

984
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 4: I got four, Colin got three. Tim was shut up.

985
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: Tim was also here, so it's good it was.

986
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: Here naked laugh for me, that is that is embarrassing.

987
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 4: You're too young. You're too young.

988
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: That's bad. Okay, let's do USC he fires their defensive coordinator. Also,

989
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: some shenanigans going on at Colorado with the old play

990
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: caller situation. Sador Sanders baited into the question, says, I'm

991
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: not going to answer it. What made me? This all

992
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: led me to what is the best scenario in college football?

993
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: And it's scenario being if they just had this, they

994
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: would be good because it's usc with the defense. Maybe

995
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: it's Colorado with an offensive line. Colin, do you have

996
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: a good if they had this scenario? Maybe it's Arkansas's

997
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. I don't know.

998
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 5: If Ohio State had Connor Stallions, they would win the

999
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 5: national title.

1000
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: Cheeky, cheeky calvarys.

1001
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: If James Madison had eligibility, they played in the New

1002
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: Year six Bowl Game as the best G five team

1003
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: and it's just an incredible crime against humanity. And at

1004
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: this point, I think this is when they should just

1005
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: start breaking from the NC DOUAI and just show up

1006
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: at the Cotton Bowl anyway. They can play two teams

1007
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: one and a half, they'll switch over. But the Dukes,

1008
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: if they run the table, deserve to be the team

1009
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: because at this point, who they competing with, like Tulanees,

1010
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: looks like crap, like the last three weeks liberty like

1011
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: that's it. So James Madison give them their eligibility. That's

1012
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: what's missing.

1013
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: Stucky, I got a couple. If I have to stay

1014
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: out a quarterback, they would win the national title. If

1015
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 4: North Texas actually started Chandler Rogers from the beginning, they

1016
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: might have a few more wins instead.

1017
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: Of Stone Earl.

1018
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 4: If Penn State James Franklin actually practiced staring downfield before

1019
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 4: the Ohio State game, they would have won that game.

1020
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 4: And if Arizona started Noah Flafida from week one, they

1021
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 4: would be potentially undefeated right now. And my last one

1022
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: is if we changed all the rules and led Arizona

1023
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: into the Collegewall playoff, they might win at all.

1024
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: A couple of the obvious ones we missed, or at

1025
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: least one of them. Iowa with an offense, the defense,

1026
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: LSU with the defense. I'm trying to think.

1027
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 4: With Clemson, Clemson with a coach.

1028
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 5: Oh answer portal for sure, other ad missed with a quarterback.

1029
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 5: I mean we could go forever.

1030
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: Here, Texas A and m with if they passed the

1031
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: hat around in week one. Yeah. The couple of good

1032
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: ones here Utah possibly if they had vising healthy maybe yeah.

1033
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 4: That's a good one. Uh coyled. But one final thing

1034
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 4: here are we betting Penn State this weekend? No?

1035
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: I I have as many tickets on Penn State as

1036
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: you guys do. I have them in like parlays to

1037
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: win the Big Ten with other championships. I got him

1038
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: to win the Natty. I yeah, so I I'm actually

1039
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: surprised the number. What is it's in it? Four? I'm

1040
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,959
Speaker 1: actually yeah, Like, to me, that would have been if

1041
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: they lost to Ohio State but their offense looks functional,

1042
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: or if this was a white out game at night,

1043
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: so I don't see any So basically this is like

1044
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 1: a little bit below the number.

1045
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 5: If anything, I'm may take Michigan. Not gonna like it,

1046
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 5: but yeah, I make the game five. So I think

1047
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 5: the market's right in line. I've cracked the file and

1048
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 5: so art writing it for everybody this weekend on Action Network.

1049
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 5: And I can tell you that I led the article

1050
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 5: off with Penn State two weeks ago only had fifteen

1051
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 5: shots over twenty yards. In the last two weeks they've

1052
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 5: had twelve. So I have to do a complete rediagnosis

1053
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 5: of what the hell's going on with Mike Geerrisach's office

1054
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 5: because all offense, because all of a sudden, we like

1055
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 5: to throw downfield. There's a healthy appetite for explosives.

1056
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you also could see like we'll talk about this

1057
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 4: break this down in death later. But one comment I'll

1058
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 4: have is this is a top spot for Michigan. Penn

1059
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 4: State had to did the same thing. They played clowns

1060
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 4: right for weeks, and then you have to go and

1061
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: play an opponent on the road who's on your level, right,

1062
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 4: Like that's difficult to do after two months of clowns.

1063
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 4: Like when Penn State went to Ohio State, it was,

1064
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 4: oh shit, this is what it's like. And Ohio stated

1065
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 4: already played Notre Dame and so that's there's also a

1066
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 4: lot we don't know about Michigan, like we know the

1067
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 4: really good, but it's hard to pinpoint exactly how good

1068
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: because they literally have played nobody. So Penn State needs

1069
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: to get off to a fast starter and take advantage

1070
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 4: of that. But we'll talk about that later in a week.

1071
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 5: And I wonder about this sigence sealing thing how it

1072
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 5: applies to this series, specifically a series that has been

1073
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 5: I don't know, won by Michigan. Last year they won

1074
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 5: forty one to seven. Twenty eighteen, they won forty two

1075
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 5: to seven. I mean, the sign ceiling has supposedly started

1076
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one, but it's been all Michigan since

1077
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 5: that happened, especially against Penn State. So how much of

1078
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 5: that was them getting years such as signs maybe Manny

1079
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 5: Diaz as signs last year, Who knows how much that

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Speaker 5: played a part. But Michigan winning forty one to seventeen

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Speaker 5: over Penn State last year I think is a bit

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Speaker 5: of an apparition. I mean, these are these two teams

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Speaker 5: that are not that far apart in talent.

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Speaker 2: I think we can expect the public to be all

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Speaker 2: over Michigan after just you know, the snapshot of Penn

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Speaker 2: State against Ohio State, It's gonna might take a little

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Speaker 2: something to want to back that team after that game,

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Speaker 2: At least for me personally, I feel that way. Honorable

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Speaker 2: mention too. Back to the other question, Oregon State, if

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Speaker 2: every game was played in corballis we we forgot that

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Speaker 2: one too? We uh we like to touch on that one.

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Speaker 2: I escape here. Somehow no one says how great Clemson's

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Speaker 2: win was over Notre Dame. No one says, Tim, your

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Speaker 2: teams so awesome.

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Speaker 4: You know no one's buying stop, so it didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's fair. You bought the stock. You bought

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Speaker 2: the stock.

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Speaker 5: On Saturday morning. Thanks for watching, Tim, I.

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Speaker 2: I was already on Clemson. Didn't need your help, didn't

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Speaker 2: didn't need to go to another source. I was already.

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Speaker 2: I already was on it. So thank you guys. Well

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Speaker 2: well done, Well done buying in on the Tigers when

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Speaker 2: the stock was low. Calabrese, appreciate you filling in because

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Speaker 2: that'll do it for this episode of BBOC presented by

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Speaker 2: bet MGM. The podcast does return Wednesday with you Calabrese

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Speaker 2: alongside Mike Byanello for your group of five deep dive

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Speaker 2: before Calling and Stuckey. They do their Big Betting preview

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Speaker 2: episode in that out late Thursday. Thank you for joining

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Speaker 2: us and we'll see you back on the Big Bets

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