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Speaker 1: coming off. Oh not the way they drew it up.
Speaker 1: You always want to get the win going into the bye.
Speaker 1: Not only did they not get the win, and that's
Speaker 1: the last taste going into the bye week, but the
Speaker 1: way they ended the game at the very end. As
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray said after the game, a twenty five twenty
Speaker 1: four loss against the La Chargers, quote, there was really
Speaker 1: no excuse for our last three drives. We got the players.
Speaker 1: There really is no excuse for not finishing that game
Speaker 1: on our own terms. Y. Yeah, you know what Polly honestly,
Speaker 1: and I think Kyler said it very very well right there.
Speaker 1: How disappointing this loss was. This was big time to me,
Speaker 1: and the reason being is because of how well they
Speaker 1: had played through three quarters. And I don't mean just
Speaker 1: offensively or just defensively, I mean in all three phases.
Speaker 1: That was the best game I think they've played as
Speaker 1: a team through three quarters. And then suddenly you had
Speaker 1: the last four possessions of that game, the last four
Speaker 1: possessions that happened in that fourth quarter, specifically, you ran
Speaker 1: eleven plays in those four possessions for sixteen yards. Polly,
Speaker 1: I mean you had you had a lead. It was
Speaker 1: twenty four seventeen, and then all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: had a three and out. You got the ball again,
Speaker 1: it was twenty four seventeen, and you had a three
Speaker 1: and out. Paul, you got it for a third time
Speaker 1: twenty four seventeen and had a three and out. The defense,
Speaker 1: I think wardown a little bit in that fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: It's reality. It happens from time to time, and I
Speaker 1: think that's what happened to them. After playing very very
Speaker 1: well for three quarters and only giving up seventeen points,
Speaker 1: it took all of the fourth quarter before they finally
Speaker 1: gave up more points to the Chargers. To me, that's
Speaker 1: why this game was so disappointing. How well they played
Speaker 1: for three quarters and beyond they ran for one hundred
Speaker 1: eighty one yards. The Cardinals have been almost unbeatable in
Speaker 1: that sort of scenario under Cliff Kingsbury. When they've had
Speaker 1: that sort of balance on offense, the Cardinals have been
Speaker 1: a juggernaut. That's what made this so confounding in so
Speaker 1: many ways. And he had a justin Herbert, who started
Speaker 1: three of eight but he ended up thirty five or
Speaker 1: forty seven for two seventy four, three touchdowns, no interceptions. Remember,
Speaker 1: Cardinals lost the turnover battle negative two in this game.
Speaker 1: They had two takeaways, overturn but eventually ultimately Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: at his tenth fourth quarter comeback in three seasons as
Speaker 1: Chargers quarterback and the Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray had this
Speaker 1: to say, I mean we practice that stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's there's really no excuse for our last three drives,
Speaker 1: no excuse. You know, I think we got you know,
Speaker 1: we got the players. There's there's no excuse for you know,
Speaker 1: um not finishing that game on our terms, not having
Speaker 1: to put the defense back out there. They did their job.
Speaker 1: You know, they did their job. And you know we
Speaker 1: don't get a first down, we don't run the clock.
Speaker 1: That's tough. You put them back, you know, put them
Speaker 1: back on the field like that. And then at the
Speaker 1: very end, well you saw the two game winning plays.
Speaker 1: You saw the one yard touchdown passed Austin Ekeler with
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds to go, followed by the two point conversion
Speaker 1: to the tight end Gerald Everett, and as Brandon Staley
Speaker 1: said after the game, the Charger's head coach about that
Speaker 1: final two point conversion to win it quotes mood like
Speaker 1: chocolate milk. So there's that as well. There's there's Look
Speaker 1: the week before in Mexico City, we were there. The
Speaker 1: Cardinals lost that game because the Niners won that game. Yes,
Speaker 1: but this game against the Chargers twenty five, twenty four,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals lost that game. If you watched it, they
Speaker 1: were so dominant for so long, for such stretches of
Speaker 1: that game. I think that's why. Honestly, that was probably
Speaker 1: the most downbeat locker room of the season been in
Speaker 1: there because guys knew man that was there for the taking. Paula.
Speaker 1: I believe that, man, because it was. It was so
Speaker 1: disappointing to me as an analyst to watch it and
Speaker 1: a former player to see them actually lose that game
Speaker 1: when they played so well. I already said that, But
Speaker 1: I'll use Isaiah Simmons as a micro cosum. He was
Speaker 1: the micro cosm of this game. Isaiah Simmons had eight tackles,
Speaker 1: eight solo tackles in this game. Isaiah Simmons had a
Speaker 1: huge sack for minus thirteen yards. Remember how big a
Speaker 1: player that was that sack. We said ballgame right there,
Speaker 1: you say, had that late, late sack Pauli and then
Speaker 1: a pass defense as well. He played incredibly well until
Speaker 1: the very end of the game, and you could even
Speaker 1: bring it down to the two point conversion where that
Speaker 1: was his man, Everett, the tight end was his man.
Speaker 1: And yet at the same time, you gotta credit the Chargers.
Speaker 1: They did a great job of using eye Candy and
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler, and it was exactly what they were hoping
Speaker 1: for that you were going to get Isaiah Simmons eyes
Speaker 1: off of Everett for a split second and that's all
Speaker 1: it took on the two point conversion touchdown. So even
Speaker 1: though he played so well overall, the last play literally
Speaker 1: that he was out there, he didn't do it. And
Speaker 1: that Cardinals defense had four sacks. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, was JJ Watter, it was Zach Allen, it
Speaker 1: was Cam Thomas. They made plays. They didn't have any takeaways,
Speaker 1: but they definitely made plays. At Cardinals offensive line. The
Speaker 1: eight difference starting old line combination, four backups and the
Speaker 1: stalwart Kelvin Beecham, the one constant you're starting right tackle
Speaker 1: who joined us after the game. And you can hear
Speaker 1: the resignation in his voice. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's not about to turnover about him, And we had
Speaker 1: two turnovers, and you're not supposed to win if you
Speaker 1: have two turnovers. But even in spite of that is,
Speaker 1: as you know, stupid. As we played today, we set
Speaker 1: out opportunity to close the game out and we didn't
Speaker 1: do so. Stupid. You didn't like the football IQ, not
Speaker 1: at all. How so, I mean, there's an opportunity again
Speaker 1: to close the game out with drives in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: and offenses that are of playoff caliber are able to
Speaker 1: do so, and we didn't do that today. He didn't
Speaker 1: get into specifics as you might imagine, but let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and translate that sound bite right there. That that
Speaker 1: answer the Q and A. I mean, he's he talking
Speaker 1: football IQ in terms of just execution. Is he talking
Speaker 1: about strategy, play calling? Is he talking about like, for example,
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins in Hollywood Brown getting combined one target in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when Tray McBride got a couple? What
Speaker 1: are you going to be all the above? Yes, I
Speaker 1: think that's what it is. PA. I think the answer
Speaker 1: is yes. I also think too, there were a couple
Speaker 1: of high profile mm's mental errors that I think also
Speaker 1: happened over the course of those last few possessions right there.
Speaker 1: I think of the first down run to James Connor
Speaker 1: that was stuffed to buy a Drew Tranquil. To remember Tranquil,
Speaker 1: he blitzed a rundown blitz. Actually they brought him down
Speaker 1: through the bee gap and he shot through the bee gap.
Speaker 1: And I believe that that was a deuce block they
Speaker 1: had going on right there where they did not pick
Speaker 1: it up. That is where two offensive linemen are going
Speaker 1: to work from the defensive linemen up to the second
Speaker 1: level where you had Drew Tranquil and he shot the gap.
Speaker 1: And I think that it was a mental error. Somebody
Speaker 1: did not come off when they should have come off.
Speaker 1: And when you hear Calvin Beecham say stupid football mental errors,
Speaker 1: I think at the end could be what he's talking
Speaker 1: about as well. Yeah, he mentioned that the Chargers consistently
Speaker 1: pressured on second down. That was their strategy. They did adjust,
Speaker 1: but there was a big sack of Kyler Murray late
Speaker 1: on second down. Should the Cardinals have known that was coming,
Speaker 1: should the ball have been out gentle or should have
Speaker 1: someone had picked up the extra blitzer. The extra runner
Speaker 1: should have, Pauli, whether it was an offensive lineman or
Speaker 1: running back the responsibility to pick it up or Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray the quarterback himself to know that's hot. If this
Speaker 1: guy comes, I've got to throw the hot. So the
Speaker 1: Cardinals loose. They've lost four out of five. And after
Speaker 1: the game we asked the head coach, Cliff Kingsbury, and
Speaker 1: his message to the team going into the bye We
Speaker 1: just started about we got a bye week coming up.
Speaker 1: We gotta arrests, recovery set, and got five games. We're
Speaker 1: gonna see how good Win be as a team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they come out, they have an extra day. Actually, the
Speaker 1: next game is going to be Monday night against the
Speaker 1: Patriots in Week fourteen. They're off this weekend and they're
Speaker 1: gonna self scout. Every team does that during the bye week.
Speaker 1: I mean, are there are a couple of things that
Speaker 1: stand out? Well? Do you think when they look at
Speaker 1: the film and I know the music's rolling here, we
Speaker 1: got Darren Urban next. But is it one or two
Speaker 1: things you think really stand out that can be addressed immediately? Yeah, Polly,
Speaker 1: I think, how do you get the ball to Deandrey
Speaker 1: Hopkins and Hollywood Brown a little bit more, especially in
Speaker 1: clutch situations. They're gonna see a lot of two safeties
Speaker 1: over these last five games. They're gonna see a lot
Speaker 1: of two safeties high. That means you've got to be
Speaker 1: able to run the ball to bring that safety down.
Speaker 1: And when you get them to bring that safety down,
Speaker 1: that's when you've got to exploit the secondary with Hollywood
Speaker 1: Brown and d how And the Cardinals definitely made the
Speaker 1: Chargers pay, especially in that first half with the run game.
Speaker 1: You saw James Conner get into the second level easily
Speaker 1: with frequency. All Right, what else is on the Cardinals
Speaker 1: plate as they prepared for the final five games of
Speaker 1: the season. Cardinals insider Darren Rban is next. I'm the
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Speaker 1: off James Conner running to the left out a hole
Speaker 1: twenty five thirty thirty five, forty ragged down at the
Speaker 1: forty one. Boy, that's as big of a hole as
Speaker 1: we've seen opened up for the Cardinals this year. On
Speaker 1: the run games, Connor the long back, Murray hands it
Speaker 1: to him off the left side for a priest at
Speaker 1: fifty five forty and down to the thirty seven of
Speaker 1: the Chargers twenty more yards on the ground. O Sante
Speaker 1: Samuel Junior came off the cornerback and suddenly he realized
Speaker 1: that it was one on one with James Connor on
Speaker 1: the outside. I thought he was gonna get his doorbell rung.
Speaker 1: James Connor went right by him with a nice little joke.
Speaker 1: And what telling me say after the game? Get James
Speaker 1: Conner on a corner, get him out there on a
Speaker 1: dB and then look out. And you saw it early
Speaker 1: against the Chargers. Four of his first five runs eighteen yards,
Speaker 1: eight yards, eight yards, six yards. He ends up twenty
Speaker 1: five carries for a buck twenty That is a Cardinals
Speaker 1: high his first one hundred plus yard rushing game as
Speaker 1: an Arizona Cardinal. Had the receiving touchdown as well. And Wolf,
Speaker 1: you're now officially back to your full buyack days, fullback
Speaker 1: blocking for our Darren Rbott Cardinals insider who joins us
Speaker 1: here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford
Speaker 1: and Gilbert. What's up? How you doing? Thanks for having me? So,
Speaker 1: what do you think is that a one game metamorphosis
Speaker 1: of the offense in a way because you had the
Speaker 1: league worst Chargers rush defense. We knew look good yards
Speaker 1: per carry given up coming in They had given up
Speaker 1: the most yards per carry to date in a season
Speaker 1: since the nineteen seventy merger. Or do you think with
Speaker 1: healthy James Conner and maybe a different run game coordinator
Speaker 1: in Steve Hyden, will this be more of the DNA
Speaker 1: over the final month of the season. I think it's
Speaker 1: I feel fairly confident in saying that Cardinals are not
Speaker 1: going to be able to run like that against the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. I mean, even the beginning
Speaker 1: of that game. I don't know if it was because
Speaker 1: the Chargers, knowing what they couldn't couldn't do against the run,
Speaker 1: they decided to jam the box, But it was almost
Speaker 1: like all James Connor had to do is get to
Speaker 1: the outside and they just didn't bother having anybody out there.
Speaker 1: It was really odd to see early in the game
Speaker 1: that the amount of room James Connor had to run.
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't it wasn't hard to get out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he was to the second level all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Easily one of the things once again is going to
Speaker 1: happen though, is you're going to see a lot of
Speaker 1: two safeties playing hot. You're going to see a lot
Speaker 1: of cover two shell that is going to be played
Speaker 1: against the likes of Hollywood Brown in DeAndre Hopkins, especially
Speaker 1: with Kyler back and healthy. Once again, even if you
Speaker 1: had Colt McCoy, I think you'd be seeing an awful
Speaker 1: lot of that as well. And I think that's going
Speaker 1: to be something that they're going to get a steady
Speaker 1: die off. That means you've got to be able to
Speaker 1: run the ball. If in fact you're gonna have two
Speaker 1: safeties high, you have to be able to run the
Speaker 1: ball in that situation. And that's why it was good
Speaker 1: to actually see them commit to doing that. Well, how
Speaker 1: many times you said with backup offensive linement, and four
Speaker 1: of your five offensive linement are backups at this point,
Speaker 1: four starters on IR you know what, they're probably better
Speaker 1: at run blocking than pass blocking. So okay, With that
Speaker 1: in mind, plus the departure of Sean Coogler the offensive
Speaker 1: line coach and run game coordinator, and Steve Hyden and
Speaker 1: Brian Natkin now in charge on that side, Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 1: was asked about the offensive line play. You know Brian
Speaker 1: Atkin and Steve Hyden got together and had some thoughts,
Speaker 1: different ideas, and I think it was more about the
Speaker 1: physical play up front. Those guys really took pride this
Speaker 1: week and after the previous week we didn't think we
Speaker 1: played as physicals. We needed to stepped up and created
Speaker 1: some some nice running lanes and I thought James finished
Speaker 1: runs downhill and so that was positive. Schematically, you know,
Speaker 1: there's similarities, and obviously those guys are gonna put their
Speaker 1: own spin on things as well, so maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit maybe a little bit of a different scheme or
Speaker 1: approach to the run game maybe, But I think most importantly,
Speaker 1: because Cliff Kingsbury said it with us after the game
Speaker 1: as well, they just felt like Monday night in Mexico City,
Speaker 1: they weren't as physical as a forty nine ers. I
Speaker 1: think we'd all agree that was the case. So that
Speaker 1: was most definitely a point emphasis. And you know what, Darren,
Speaker 1: that's something you can control in this final month plus
Speaker 1: of this season. The want to the effort, the intensity
Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage. I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1: You know, again you're talking you are talking about backup
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I think Josh Jones has played pretty well.
Speaker 1: We saw Max Garcia back in the lineup now that
Speaker 1: he's finally healthy. Unfortunately, Cody Ford seems to have been
Speaker 1: surpassed on the depth chart by Richard Coward. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if that trades worked out exactly how they
Speaker 1: had hoped. When Billy praates the center. But when you
Speaker 1: have the backups, you're right, you can control that, but
Speaker 1: so can the other team. And you're talking about the reserves,
Speaker 1: and there is a there is a talent level portion
Speaker 1: to this equation that, especially to me and the run game,
Speaker 1: that becomes harder to scheme and more about the talent.
Speaker 1: To me, I say, yes, we know Derby was a
Speaker 1: back no no, but see to me, like in the
Speaker 1: passing game, I feel like there are times when you
Speaker 1: can you can definitely scheme up situations to not always
Speaker 1: get over the talent, but it's I think it's y
Speaker 1: get rid of it. Yeah, whereas the running game, it
Speaker 1: to me, it does come down to the talent. And
Speaker 1: and and right now that you know the Cardinals are
Speaker 1: so banged up, and and and we we saw what
Speaker 1: happened with the Chargers the Patriots, Bill Belichick knows what
Speaker 1: he's doing with that kind of stuff. So that's the thing, Denver,
Speaker 1: He's got a pretty good defense. Their offense is horrible,
Speaker 1: but their defense is really good. Todd Bowles knows what
Speaker 1: he's doing on defense with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, like
Speaker 1: those are your next three opponents, so you know, we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. And to your point that they are
Speaker 1: banged up and it doesn't look like it's going to change,
Speaker 1: because here's the latest. DJ Humphrey's on IR and Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury asked to be He's out for the year. Just
Speaker 1: wasn't progressing like we thought. We were hopeful for a
Speaker 1: while that maybe of something he could come back the
Speaker 1: last few weeks and play, but at this point that
Speaker 1: won't be possible. So yes, he has done for the year. Wolf.
Speaker 1: In fact, dress goes quickly, Polly right here. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to cut you off, but I gotta jump in. I mean,
Speaker 1: DJ Humphries is the one thing about him, if you
Speaker 1: watch him on type, he's a dog. You know, this
Speaker 1: is a guy that goes out in balls. This is
Speaker 1: a guy that is a dog. This is a guy
Speaker 1: that will try to bury you. There's a mentality that
Speaker 1: DJ Humphries brings to a football field, and I know
Speaker 1: it's hard for us when we see him. He's always smiling,
Speaker 1: he's always laughing and everything. Even sometimes on the field
Speaker 1: he's doing that. But he does have a dog mentality,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what's going to be missed as
Speaker 1: much as anything else for the next five games for
Speaker 1: this team. Is that dog mentality that DJ Humphries brings
Speaker 1: and playing left tackle right now former third round pick
Speaker 1: Josh Jones and Cliff Kingsbury was asked about his recent performance.
Speaker 1: I think he's held his own. He's been waiting for
Speaker 1: an opportunity. I know at times he's been frustrated because
Speaker 1: we have had Beach and DJ playing at a high level.
Speaker 1: But he stepped in and played well. So that's encouraging
Speaker 1: for us moving forward. And being able to play right
Speaker 1: left be that swing guy, I think is a huge
Speaker 1: bonus for us because think about it, Darren, we talked
Speaker 1: about this the other day. I mean, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of questions on this roster, especially with this offensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: DJ Humphrey's is the only guy under contract going into
Speaker 1: next year. I think right technically, Rodney Hudson is, But
Speaker 1: I'm feeling fairly confident. Rodney Hudson's probably getting to the
Speaker 1: point where he's going to say, yeah, I thought about
Speaker 1: retiring this year for this very reason. I wasn't sure
Speaker 1: my body could hold up, and unfortunately it hasn't. So Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Justin Pugh's a free agent. Will Hernandez is a free agent.
Speaker 1: Max Garcia is a free agent, Calvin Beacham's a free agent,
Speaker 1: Cody Ford is a free agent. Rashad Coward is a
Speaker 1: free agent. Wow. Wow, that's interest. I mean, where do
Speaker 1: you start about what derb? I mean, there's a there's
Speaker 1: a reason why I think they wanted to play Lessie
Speaker 1: to Smith a little bit to see what he had. Um.
Speaker 1: I think Josh Jones has played solid football and that's
Speaker 1: a good thing. Now the question is with Josh Jones
Speaker 1: if Kelvin Beacham's not around here. And I think Kelvin
Speaker 1: Breacham brings to the table a lot more than just
Speaker 1: what he does on the field. So that's something you've
Speaker 1: got to think about. Um, do you is Josh Jones?
Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with him at right tackle? If DJ
Speaker 1: Humphries continue to be left? Is there any chance you
Speaker 1: do with DJ Humphries that you did with Jared vel
Speaker 1: there when Dji to the right side, and I have
Speaker 1: Josh Jones your left tackle. I mean, I think these
Speaker 1: are some of the things you got to figure out.
Speaker 1: But in the interior you got to just make sure
Speaker 1: you have bodies right now they don't have those. Can
Speaker 1: I just say this quickly as well? Um, Josh Jones
Speaker 1: to me seems to have played a lot better on
Speaker 1: the left side than he has the right. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's why I brought it up. Yes, that was his
Speaker 1: entire career in college left side. Let's not forget there
Speaker 1: are people involved here, and you know how this goes.
Speaker 1: Jared Veldier was not happy when he had to go
Speaker 1: from left to right. Yes, DJ Humphries, I'm guessing who
Speaker 1: desperately wanted to play left wouldn't be all that thrilled
Speaker 1: to go from left right. And I'm not even suggesting
Speaker 1: an he's brought that up, DJ, I don't know anything,
Speaker 1: but and he's paid like a left tackle. But yes,
Speaker 1: that's true. But at this point, I think, especially with
Speaker 1: the way the CAP's going to be at least next year,
Speaker 1: I think you go into it saying we're paying offensive
Speaker 1: line X amount of dollars and wherever they end up,
Speaker 1: they end up. I mean, yeah, Dj Humphries are getting
Speaker 1: paid like a left tackle. But if you put it
Speaker 1: Josh Jones at left tackle, he's not getting paid like
Speaker 1: a left tackle. So it's all the same. It all
Speaker 1: comes out, yes, All right, Well, look, this might not
Speaker 1: be the norm all the way through the rest of
Speaker 1: this season. There could be potential reinforcements on the old
Speaker 1: line after the bye. Here's Cliff Kingsbury or hopeful will
Speaker 1: or Rodney. I don't know what that's gonna look like,
Speaker 1: but hopefully one of the two at some point in
Speaker 1: the near future we can get back in there. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing Will hernad is much more likely, yes than Rodney Hudson.
Speaker 1: But even so, I mean, Will Hernandez was playing really
Speaker 1: good football from all accounts at that right guard position,
Speaker 1: right was I think he was. I think he's earned
Speaker 1: the chance to be back again next year if they
Speaker 1: can get something done, and I think he likes playing here.
Speaker 1: You know, again, when you start talking about having five
Speaker 1: games left in the season and counting every week that
Speaker 1: we go by, then it starts to become what's what's
Speaker 1: the realistic what's the point of bringing somebody back at
Speaker 1: this point, I think will Hernandez sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1: And I don't know off the top of my head
Speaker 1: if he's got to miss I think he's got to
Speaker 1: miss one more game. Yes, I think you're right, So
Speaker 1: he would get a chance has to play for if
Speaker 1: he came back immediately, which I don't know where he is.
Speaker 1: He was playing so well to your point, Paula, Honestly
Speaker 1: right now, as a matter of fact, I thought he
Speaker 1: was the best offensive lineman that Cardinals id at that
Speaker 1: point in time. He was playing very, very consistently. And
Speaker 1: we all know how physical he is as well. That
Speaker 1: that is his forte and that's exactly what I think
Speaker 1: the Cardinals need a little bit more of on that
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Speaking of, you go into this offseason
Speaker 1: and there's no doubt edge rusher, pass rusher is going
Speaker 1: to be a priority, if not number one overall, but center.
Speaker 1: And it was interesting to your Steve Kim in the
Speaker 1: off season just talk about the importance of the center position,
Speaker 1: and it was sort of an epiphany realized just because
Speaker 1: we always talk about, Okay, quarterback, right and then you
Speaker 1: talk about left tackle, cornerback. You know these are the
Speaker 1: edge rusher, but center more and more, and he realized
Speaker 1: just how vital that can be with you. When Rodney
Speaker 1: Hudson showed up and everything he did for Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: and everything he did for that offense, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: rise if they set aside some big money. If there's
Speaker 1: a free agent out there and or a high draft
Speaker 1: pick for a center this April, I wouldn't be shocked either.
Speaker 1: I mean the reports came out post draft that had
Speaker 1: they not traded that that pick for Hollywood Brown, they
Speaker 1: probably would have gone center in the first round. And
Speaker 1: it's funny that they ended up with Billy Price because
Speaker 1: I think after the draft thing happened and when they
Speaker 1: weren't sure about Rodney Hudson coming back, I think Billy
Speaker 1: Price was going to be the free agent they were
Speaker 1: seriously thinking about signing. So I think that's something that's
Speaker 1: absolutely got to get straightened out at this point because
Speaker 1: the last couple of years with Rodney Hutson being banged
Speaker 1: up is I don't think anybody's been comfortable with that situation,
Speaker 1: and talking to a few people, things have slowed down
Speaker 1: a little bit. For Billy Price, it was tough. You
Speaker 1: walk in and you've got to be the quarterback of
Speaker 1: that offensive line, and he was required to make a
Speaker 1: lot of calls and recognitions that he wasn't accustomed to
Speaker 1: doing stuff that Rodney Hudson was doing. They're asking him
Speaker 1: to do the same thing. And because when he was
Speaker 1: whipped the Raiders, they didn't want him calling anything. Isn't
Speaker 1: that interesting, Josh McDaniels. And it was a very different
Speaker 1: system the Raiders playbook versus Cliff Kingsbury. So it took
Speaker 1: him a little while. And he has new interior guards
Speaker 1: on either side of him, but things have slowed down
Speaker 1: for him a little bit. Remember the Patriots are number
Speaker 1: two in the NFL as a team in sacks, behind
Speaker 1: only the Dallas Cowboys. We continue with this addition to
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford. In Gilbert
Speaker 1: third down at six at the LA thirty four, Chargers
Speaker 1: showing blitz, they back off Murray back the past blackdown
Speaker 1: pass at the middle, pop at the twenty in a
Speaker 1: broken tackle, Hop is loose at the ten at the
Speaker 1: five and end of the end zone before the touchdown.
Speaker 1: This will likely stand it looked like the Chargers were
Speaker 1: offside a Ken Murray getting rid of it quickly, being
Speaker 1: decisive and letting his playmaker do the rest of thirty
Speaker 1: four yard ketch and run for a score by hop
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins over the middle of the field. Great job
Speaker 1: by Kyler Murray's standing tall in the pocket and delivering
Speaker 1: a strike to DeAndre Hopkins. And as he does so
Speaker 1: much at the time, he runs after the catch man,
Speaker 1: He's slippery, no doubt. It is amazing, like at Cleveland
Speaker 1: last year, being field level, remember that catching about ten
Speaker 1: yard touchdown run and he made like seven guys, Miss Paul.
Speaker 1: It's so weird because nobody talks about d hopping one
Speaker 1: of the best yards after catch guys. Nobody really talks
Speaker 1: about him being that guy. Yet anyone who watches him,
Speaker 1: he is a dicey proposition to try to tackle. Very unorthodox.
Speaker 1: I mean, Greg Dortsch is said in the studio and
Speaker 1: welcome back into the Big Red Rage or by Week
Speaker 1: edition presented by Saying tan Ford in Gilbert Paul kelbc
Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley Cardinals insider Darren Rman with US. Greg Dortsch said,
Speaker 1: I'll make anybody missing a phone booth but that's a
Speaker 1: totally different way that he gets it done versus a
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. It was longer and leaner, and it's just
Speaker 1: a you know, but seemingly after every catch he does
Speaker 1: make that first man miss he does. He's so slippery.
Speaker 1: Not only that too, Guys, nobody talks about d hopping
Speaker 1: a great deep threat. Nobody's not a run by guy.
Speaker 1: He isn't yet. All he does is make place when
Speaker 1: you give him the opportunity down the field. It's the
Speaker 1: magic of DeAndre Hopkins. Well, and that's been crucial this
Speaker 1: year because if you didn't have guys like that, if
Speaker 1: you didn't have Greg Dortsch doing a couple of little things,
Speaker 1: even Hollywood Brown before he got hurt, you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: any big plays because there is no deep balls this year.
Speaker 1: So before I ask you, Darren, about the first time
Speaker 1: this year you have seen Hollywood Brown and DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: out there together. Let's see her from the quarterback Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: Feel good to have him back out there. Some things
Speaker 1: we wish we had back, obviously, but to have him
Speaker 1: back out there on the same field as as you know,
Speaker 1: that was the first time actually, so it was good
Speaker 1: to see him both in Nasha. Unfortunately it was week twelve,
Speaker 1: but you finally saw him out there. So what do
Speaker 1: you think Brown does for you? And does Ford hop
Speaker 1: and does for Kyle Learn does for this passing offense?
Speaker 1: And to Wolf's point earlier, what does it do against
Speaker 1: these two high safety shell looks they keep getting? I mean,
Speaker 1: for me, the immediate play that comes to mind was
Speaker 1: hopkins thirty three yard touchdown that we heard the play
Speaker 1: call on coming back from break, because that was a
Speaker 1: play where Hopkins was actually lined up next to Hollywood Brown,
Speaker 1: but Hopkins was on the inside, and they ran a
Speaker 1: play where Hopkins kind of took the slot and went across,
Speaker 1: and I was impressed with how they executed it. And
Speaker 1: you know, I talked to DeAndre last week about it,
Speaker 1: and he was I said, Look, everybody talks about Hollywood
Speaker 1: being back, and does that really mean anything for you
Speaker 1: or is it still going to be the defense is
Speaker 1: going to be watching DeAndre Hopkins and then we'll see
Speaker 1: how they deal with Hollywood And and hop truly believed
Speaker 1: that it was going to make for harder choices for
Speaker 1: the opposition and they weren't just going to completely focus
Speaker 1: on him. And I thought we saw a little bit
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, you still want to see again
Speaker 1: bigger plays down the field, especially with Hollywood. They took
Speaker 1: a couple of shots, yea, weren't real close, unfortunately, And
Speaker 1: that's a whole other topic of a conversation. But I
Speaker 1: think having both those guys out there makes a huge difference.
Speaker 1: And I go back, this was before I was on
Speaker 1: the air with you, but I heard you talking about
Speaker 1: the lack of targets on those last few possessions that
Speaker 1: that's really strange to me, because you know, you would
Speaker 1: think with two guys out there, you'd be able to
Speaker 1: find a way to get it to one and try
Speaker 1: and crank out a couple of those first towns you'd
Speaker 1: so desperately needed. The one target in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: between d Hop and Hollywood Brown was the near interception,
Speaker 1: the one handed Stah, goodness, my d Hop, that's saved one.
Speaker 1: Are the greatest catches I've seen ever, And yet how long?
Speaker 1: What was that? A six yard four yard completion flight
Speaker 1: there Just an incredible play by an incredible player. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Hollywood Brown, we thought he was good,
Speaker 1: ought he was going to be on a pitch count no,
Speaker 1: he played sixty four out of sixty six snaps. That's
Speaker 1: ninety seven percent of the snaps. And there's Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 1: on that he felt good. I mean, I thought, we
Speaker 1: want to see him out there running and he felt
Speaker 1: good and didn't want to come out and I thought
Speaker 1: he played fast and played at a high level. Had
Speaker 1: some some opportunities that weren't able to get him the
Speaker 1: ball a couple of times that I thought he was
Speaker 1: running really well. But we'll continue to fit him back
Speaker 1: in and get him going. And of course they needed
Speaker 1: it more than ever because they're without Rondale Moore and
Speaker 1: Greg Dortch didn't play. You know, we get it, there's
Speaker 1: no zach Ertz. But well, what do you think what
Speaker 1: is the upside? What is the potential for this combination
Speaker 1: at receiver too legitimate wide receiver ones in this lineup?
Speaker 1: N Paul, I think it has a huge impact. It's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why the Arizona Cardinals once again
Speaker 1: see so much of the cover two, the two safeties
Speaker 1: high for the most part in rundown situation, first in
Speaker 1: ten second and one to six. If in fact that's
Speaker 1: what you get, you have to be able to run
Speaker 1: the ball. You have to be able to run the
Speaker 1: ball against the those looks if in fact that's what
Speaker 1: you're getting, and the Cardinals get it so much of
Speaker 1: the time right now. It's one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: as well, you've got to have a rhythm and timing
Speaker 1: quarterback being able to get the ball out quickly. It's
Speaker 1: something we saw with Colt McCoy as well. You have
Speaker 1: something where you've got to have route combinations going against
Speaker 1: a covered two look where you're going to have two
Speaker 1: deep five underneath and you're gonna get a lot of
Speaker 1: four man rushes. That is what they've got to work
Speaker 1: on more than anything else. I think they're quick game,
Speaker 1: they're quick passing game, and still be able to take
Speaker 1: shots down the field. I was so disappointed Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: two times had the opportunity to hit Hollywood Brown and
Speaker 1: there was one time where Hollywood Brown looked like he
Speaker 1: had a couple of steps on the defender, and both
Speaker 1: times Kyler threw the ball out of bounds. This is
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I continue to say they
Speaker 1: got to get Kyler Murray right once again. Kyler's got
Speaker 1: to get right, and it's not just Kyler, who's got
Speaker 1: to do it. It's the entire offense around him. This
Speaker 1: is what I think is in front of them right
Speaker 1: now with five games to go, they got to get
Speaker 1: Kyler right, in my opinion, and especially when it comes
Speaker 1: to those deep shots, because Darren, there's first three years
Speaker 1: he was among the league leaders, if not number one,
Speaker 1: in deep ball accuracy, right, Yeah, I mean that missing
Speaker 1: piece is just that's That's what's glaring this deep in
Speaker 1: the season, quite frankly, is the inability to have a
Speaker 1: ball go over the top. We saw so many of them,
Speaker 1: and most of them were to Christian Kirk in the past,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that plays any kind of
Speaker 1: factor into this. Obviously, we've talked about the offensive line issues,
Speaker 1: so you would need a certain amount of protection to
Speaker 1: be able to throw it that far down the field.
Speaker 1: But even when he's had the moments, it's it's either
Speaker 1: come up short for one reason or another, or it's
Speaker 1: like in the other game or this past game, it
Speaker 1: went out of bounds and and not like close out
Speaker 1: of bounds, like oh, it's he's just tied up in
Speaker 1: sidelines like the one I'm thinking of, there was no
Speaker 1: chance and you wonder where that is, because quite frankly,
Speaker 1: he's been so good at that. But even even the
Speaker 1: fourth down play, the one that completely melted down, I
Speaker 1: felt like, if he gets the ball a little further downfield,
Speaker 1: hop makes that play over Derwin James and he just
Speaker 1: left it a little short. Well, look here's clip Kingsbury.
Speaker 1: He knows what he has and those two receivers is
Speaker 1: the reason they made the trade for Hollywood Brown and
Speaker 1: added him to DeAndre Hopkins. You can see that, you know,
Speaker 1: it can cause some problems for the defense. And then
Speaker 1: zach Ertz, you know, he's he's a big part of
Speaker 1: work in the middle. He's a guy who is kind
Speaker 1: of the fail safe for this offense. That that's one
Speaker 1: that with those two guys and the speed they play
Speaker 1: with around him, I think, you know, could have been
Speaker 1: a real weapon. But watching Hollywood run and take the
Speaker 1: top off things and then DeAndre doing someone underneath stuff,
Speaker 1: it can be a good a good weapon force moving
Speaker 1: for there's no doubt, and there's no doubt if he
Speaker 1: Zach hurts working the seams along with those two wide receivers,
Speaker 1: whoop all the potential. I know when the pregame show
Speaker 1: Drew stan was talking about. Look, just the fact of
Speaker 1: where they're going to line them up and when you
Speaker 1: put de hop in Hollywood round to the same side,
Speaker 1: Now what does the defense do. You certainly can't bracket
Speaker 1: both of them. You can't double team both of them.
Speaker 1: Now you have four dbs one side of the field.
Speaker 1: Guess what that's you know, that's definitely a liability there.
Speaker 1: So there's it's interesting. I was watching throughout the game,
Speaker 1: and I don't have the exact specifics, but it was
Speaker 1: interesting how they were being used. And obviously DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: is inside a lot more than he had been last year. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you're right about that, and they're moving him around it.
Speaker 1: I think that's what they've got to continue to do
Speaker 1: to expand and evolve this offense is to definitely move
Speaker 1: them around. But once again, can I just continue to
Speaker 1: say what the Arizona Cardinals to me need more than
Speaker 1: anything else is a true stud tight end. That's what
Speaker 1: they need, A true why tight end where they can
Speaker 1: get into eleven personnel, one back, one tight end, three
Speaker 1: wide receivers, and two of those wide receivers are Hollywood
Speaker 1: Brown and DeAndre Hopkins. Rondel Moore would be another guy
Speaker 1: that would be perfect to add to that. But now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, if you had that true stud
Speaker 1: tight end, you could run down situation. You could run
Speaker 1: the ball just as effectively as you could throw the ball. Okay,
Speaker 1: that messes defenses up. But in when we're sitting here talking,
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room is Trey McBride have that
Speaker 1: chance to be that guy? You respect us have a chance.
Speaker 1: He's a second round pick. I know he does have
Speaker 1: a chance to be that guy. Will he that's the question? Well,
Speaker 1: and it was a question put to Cliff Kingsbury this week,
Speaker 1: the progress of the top tight end taking in the draft.
Speaker 1: He's just grown into it right now. I mean we
Speaker 1: see some real flashes at practice where you know, you
Speaker 1: know he's going to be a very good player in
Speaker 1: this league. And then sometimes in the games it seems
Speaker 1: a little speed up for him. But that's all rookies,
Speaker 1: you know. And the more reps he gets for zagbean out,
Speaker 1: I think it's going to continue to help and you
Speaker 1: start to see some of those flashes as a season
Speaker 1: winds down. There are a couple of things that are
Speaker 1: confounding and perplexing about Trey McBride so far. I think
Speaker 1: it was week two. We had Max Williams in here
Speaker 1: on this big red rage in this studio. Unprompted, he
Speaker 1: went into a long explanation how we thought Trey McBride
Speaker 1: was going to be special. Sure, how he has everything
Speaker 1: you need to be that two way tight end. Sure.
Speaker 1: And then in practices and in training camp he catches
Speaker 1: the ball easily. He has really nice hands. In practice,
Speaker 1: I know, but you know he doesn't fight the football.
Speaker 1: He looks like a natural pass catcher. But we haven't
Speaker 1: seen that obviously translate to game days. No, we haven't.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sorry PAULI, but right now the
Speaker 1: jury is still out on Trey mill. We all know that.
Speaker 1: Yet at the same time you bring up Max Williams.
Speaker 1: Never never forget what this offense look like through the
Speaker 1: first five weeks of the season last year September. In
Speaker 1: October of twenty twenty one, it was humming. And the
Speaker 1: reason why it was humming was because of what I
Speaker 1: just said. They could throw the ball or they could
Speaker 1: line up and run the ball. With a true stud
Speaker 1: tight end, Max Williams run the ball against six man
Speaker 1: boxes all day long and hold up, especially at the
Speaker 1: point of attack. They could do it. That was a
Speaker 1: huge advantage to this offense and they got to get
Speaker 1: back to that at some point in time. But that
Speaker 1: requires that you find a true stud tight end. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Max Williams can't be that guy, but
Speaker 1: we all know that he's fighting it. I was going
Speaker 1: to say when Cliff Kingsbury talked about his injury, I mean,
Speaker 1: Max Williams nerve ending is not walking through that door
Speaker 1: and fixing that leg that Cliff talked about earlier this week,
Speaker 1: And I just Max isn't at least this season, and
Speaker 1: maybe who knows ever, he's not going to be that guy.
Speaker 1: But I bring it up as an exact yet that
Speaker 1: I get that. And to your point, well, there's a
Speaker 1: reason they went after Tray McBride and round two of
Speaker 1: the draft, correct, because I think they understood the importance
Speaker 1: of that two weight tight end what Maxams did do.
Speaker 1: To your point for that Cardinals offense at the beginning
Speaker 1: of last year, I agree the jury is still out
Speaker 1: on Trey McBride, but the reality is is if you're
Speaker 1: drafting a guy in that spot, he better be that guy.
Speaker 1: And I'm you know at this point it is what
Speaker 1: it is. I think they're you'll you'll use zach Ertz,
Speaker 1: but we'll talk about in the offseason the jump from
Speaker 1: year one to year two. Hopefully he can have a
Speaker 1: Zavin Collins type kind of jump. And they're gonna need
Speaker 1: him because I agree they need that piece, m but
Speaker 1: that's why you draft him. And if you're sitting here
Speaker 1: and saying they don't have that guy right now, he's
Speaker 1: gonna have to figure it out. And to me, and
Speaker 1: I'm writing a piece for the Easy Cardinals dot Com
Speaker 1: later in the week about different things that they can
Speaker 1: be looking at down the stretch here because the playoffs,
Speaker 1: let's face it, aren't going to happen. And one of
Speaker 1: them is the development of these rookies other my j
Speaker 1: Sanders and the Cameron Thomas is maybe even Keyanta Ingram
Speaker 1: and definitely Trey McBride. No, that is a great point
Speaker 1: right there. Honestly, five games, Trey McBride's to see the field.
Speaker 1: You put him mildpare and you let him see it. Well,
Speaker 1: he's been out there, yes, since it's got hurt. He's
Speaker 1: the guy. The play after the one handed stab by
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins he had the incompletion. Whether you want to
Speaker 1: call it a drop or not, it was knocked away. Paul.
Speaker 1: He was disappointed. He was dejected on that bench. I'll
Speaker 1: be honest, I'll draw a parallel. I don't know. This
Speaker 1: is just my observation to and Andy Isabella early in
Speaker 1: his career. Confidence is it there right now? For Trey McBride.
Speaker 1: There's that story of what coach McDaniel did for Tua
Speaker 1: in Miami. Yeah, but to go that whole real highlight
Speaker 1: reel restored his confidence and so maybe somehow, some way
Speaker 1: they can do that with a Trey McBride at some
Speaker 1: point in time. And it always has to come back
Speaker 1: to the individual doing it. Episode fifty one of The
Speaker 1: Day Pash Podcast featuring RG three Robert Griffin the third
Speaker 1: thanks to Darren Irban Cardinals Insider. We continue with a
Speaker 1: big red rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert first
Speaker 1: and goal on the two Floyd to the right, to
Speaker 1: Evers to the laft including Fitz snapped a palm or
Speaker 1: gonna throw lobs at left side of the end zone.
Speaker 1: For Fitz, he's on the ground and he's still bought it.
Speaker 1: The century mark for Larry fitzgerald career touchdown number one
Speaker 1: hundred and the Cardinals tie the game in twenty deadly
Speaker 1: and single minded of purpose. Larry touches the ball as
Speaker 1: he's going down. It's somehow pinned it to his helmet.
Speaker 1: What a catch by Larry. In fact, when de hop
Speaker 1: made that one handed stab to prevent the interception late
Speaker 1: third quarter, the first thing I thought of was, you
Speaker 1: know that's Larry Esque's that's Fitzgerald worthy, Larry legend. I'm
Speaker 1: many unbelievable catches did we see over his Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame career. Greg call there by Pash Wolf on the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network because we wrap up this byweek
Speaker 1: condition to the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford
Speaker 1: in Gilbert Ron Wolfley, Do you appreciate enough when we
Speaker 1: had zoom out during a bye week some of the
Speaker 1: caliber of play you've seen by Larry Fitzgerald, DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: in company over the years, Yes, Polly, I do. There's
Speaker 1: no doubt. Don't forget Roy jet Stream, Yeah, somebody that
Speaker 1: I actually played with. Polly and ann Quon Bolden it
Speaker 1: right as well, Man had The Arizona Cardinals had some
Speaker 1: wide receivers no doubt about that. So Cardinals getting ready
Speaker 1: for a New England team. So that was sort of
Speaker 1: ironic there the one hundredth career touchdown against the Patriots
Speaker 1: team and guess what, they still have the same head coach.
Speaker 1: And we all remember twenty twenty, at least I do,
Speaker 1: because of a very long COVID trip to an empty
Speaker 1: Gillette Stadium in Foxborough and Cam Newton stuck up, I
Speaker 1: mean just was terrible, stunk up. The joint had a
Speaker 1: passer rating in the twenties, and somehow Bell Belichick pulled
Speaker 1: a win out against the Cardinals in that game, cam Na,
Speaker 1: I mean, you just look, they're not gonna give you anything.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be buttoned up. They're not going to beat themselves. Right,
Speaker 1: you tell me you played for the man. What are
Speaker 1: you expecting in New England when they come to town
Speaker 1: on Monday night, Week fourteen. Well, just like you said, right, Polly,
Speaker 1: they don't beat themselves. That's a hallmark of Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: and what he coaches, what he teaches, of course, what
Speaker 1: he believes, and every team for the most part, all
Speaker 1: the way back to the Cleveland Browns, even when he
Speaker 1: was with the Cleveland Browns. We didn't beat ourselves. We
Speaker 1: just weren't good enough at that point in time, they
Speaker 1: had players like me. I mean, they just weren't good enough, Polly,
Speaker 1: and you know that is a hallmark of Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: and the Arizona Cardinals are gonna have to be buttoned
Speaker 1: up if they don't want to get run in this game.
Speaker 1: And yet at the same time, I just have this feeling,
Speaker 1: I really do. With five games left, coming off of
Speaker 1: the buy, I have this feeling that getting Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: Wright has got to be the goal overall. Forget about
Speaker 1: wins and losses at this point, when you got a
Speaker 1: one percent chance to get into the postseason, forget about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'd be nice if you you want a couple of
Speaker 1: games in a row, whatever it may be. But to me,
Speaker 1: it's all about getting Kyler Murray and this offense playing
Speaker 1: at the level you thought there were going to be
Speaker 1: playing coming into this season. Buddha Baker all pro safety.
Speaker 1: His message to the locker room over these final five
Speaker 1: games rests, rejuvenate, recover, be with your families. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, when it's time to work,
Speaker 1: we work at work, and we've got five more opportunities.
Speaker 1: Take the best of those opportunities, because you know, this
Speaker 1: league is stands for not for long, and we got
Speaker 1: five more opportunities to play some good football. And that's
Speaker 1: the plan that we're going to do. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you. Five of the last six games now, dbs
Speaker 1: have been the leading tacklers for the Cardinals defense. Is
Speaker 1: that a problem if your advanced Joseph and look, I
Speaker 1: get it, Buddha Baker. Over the last four years, nobody
Speaker 1: has more tackles as a defensive back in the NFL
Speaker 1: than Buddha Baker. And it's not giving close. But I
Speaker 1: just one if that's one of those things you're looking
Speaker 1: at and you're hoping that maybe a Zaving Collins, now
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons did tie for the lead in this game.
Speaker 1: Sure those two guys to me should always be at
Speaker 1: the top of the tackle total. Yeah, I would say
Speaker 1: as Isaiah Simmons as well, because he's also playing an
Speaker 1: awful lot in space from time to time. So so
Speaker 1: that's something that I think he's always going to be
Speaker 1: up there in terms of tackles. Zaven Collins, on the
Speaker 1: other hand, Yeah, he's getting better. Man, this much I
Speaker 1: know about Zaven Collins. This guy is getting better. I
Speaker 1: watch him on tape and even when he doesn't make
Speaker 1: the play sometimes he's doing a great job of filling
Speaker 1: his gap and stuffing the play. So, yeah, I'm encouraged
Speaker 1: based on what I'm seeing from those two young guys.
Speaker 1: That's good to hear because obviously they are the future.
Speaker 1: They are first round picks. And then you have the
Speaker 1: likes of a Byron Murphy whereas yeah, DJ Humphreys with
Speaker 1: his back injury put on IRN Cliff Kingsbury said he's
Speaker 1: done for the year. That's not the case with Byron Murphy,
Speaker 1: at least not yet. Can you see Byron Murphy back
Speaker 1: goes guess what he needs a decision on his future
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals and his contracts. That just like as
Speaker 1: Zach Allen does, another draft pick by the Cardinals who's
Speaker 1: had a really nice season on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball, there are a lot of questions to be
Speaker 1: answered and a roster would be formulated. And you know what,
Speaker 1: the only real telling trait is what they do on
Speaker 1: this game film. Yeah, and for that reason, I don't
Speaker 1: expect this team to cave in. There are too many
Speaker 1: guys that have too many of their own futures wrapped
Speaker 1: up in the outcome of these final five games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right now, just looking at it, Zach Allen, I'm extending him.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Byron Murphy, you better believe it. You get
Speaker 1: him healthy, I'm extending him as well. Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1: And look, your cornerback room I think is a lot
Speaker 1: better than we thought going into this season. To me,
Speaker 1: that's not the priority this offseason. If you can extend
Speaker 1: a Byron Murphy, I think you're set there. Use some
Speaker 1: of those early round draft assets going after the edge rusher.
Speaker 1: I think a Jayleen Thompson. What they did with Jayleen Thompson,
Speaker 1: I think they're going to do the same thing. Yep,
Speaker 1: there you go. Well, special thanks Darren Irman, Cardinals insider,
Speaker 1: Jim almahund Zach Larson. Once again Cardinals This week they
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