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And 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:58.600 Ron Wolflee. It doesn't get any better than that. Unleash 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:05.039 the Far, the original Thursday Night Football. We don't need 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.120 no stinking bye week around here. I mean we're all 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.399 about talking ball. Fifty two weeks a year on the 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:16.560 Big Red Rage, and plenty to talk about what is, 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:22.720 what was, what will be, what should be. It is 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.959 a Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.800 We are Santanford, Paul calvci Ron Wolfley, soon to be 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:33.720 joined by Cardinals insider Darren Urban and a Cardinals team 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.560 coming off. Oh not the way they drew it up. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:38.360 You always want to get the win going into the bye. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.080 Not only did they not get the win, and that's 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.959 the last taste going into the bye week, but the 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.720 way they ended the game at the very end. As 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.480 Kyler Murray said after the game, a twenty five twenty 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.360 four loss against the La Chargers, quote, there was really 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.160 no excuse for our last three drives. We got the players. 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.600 There really is no excuse for not finishing that game 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:02.560 on our own terms. Y. Yeah, you know what Polly honestly, 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.320 and I think Kyler said it very very well right there. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:12.120 How disappointing this loss was. This was big time to me, 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.000 and the reason being is because of how well they 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.399 had played through three quarters. And I don't mean just 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:22.480 offensively or just defensively, I mean in all three phases. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.440 That was the best game I think they've played as 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:31.520 a team through three quarters. And then suddenly you had 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.040 the last four possessions of that game, the last four 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:39.040 possessions that happened in that fourth quarter, specifically, you ran 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:45.200 eleven plays in those four possessions for sixteen yards. Polly, 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.120 I mean you had you had a lead. It was 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.080 twenty four seventeen, and then all of a sudden you 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.720 had a three and out. You got the ball again, 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.400 it was twenty four seventeen, and you had a three 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.440 and out. Paul, you got it for a third time 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:05.880 twenty four seventeen and had a three and out. The defense, 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.800 I think wardown a little bit in that fourth quarter. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.840 It's reality. It happens from time to time, and I 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.839 think that's what happened to them. After playing very very 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.400 well for three quarters and only giving up seventeen points, 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.919 it took all of the fourth quarter before they finally 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:31.080 gave up more points to the Chargers. To me, that's 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.600 why this game was so disappointing. How well they played 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.640 for three quarters and beyond they ran for one hundred 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.960 eighty one yards. The Cardinals have been almost unbeatable in 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.720 that sort of scenario under Cliff Kingsbury. When they've had 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.600 that sort of balance on offense, the Cardinals have been 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:51.440 a juggernaut. That's what made this so confounding in so 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.480 many ways. And he had a justin Herbert, who started 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.560 three of eight but he ended up thirty five or 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:01.320 forty seven for two seventy four, three touchdowns, no interceptions. Remember, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:05.040 Cardinals lost the turnover battle negative two in this game. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:10.520 They had two takeaways, overturn but eventually ultimately Justin Herbert 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.280 at his tenth fourth quarter comeback in three seasons as 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:18.159 Chargers quarterback and the Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray had this 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.760 to say, I mean we practice that stuff. I mean, 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.560 there's there's really no excuse for our last three drives, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.320 no excuse. You know, I think we got you know, 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.839 we got the players. There's there's no excuse for you know, 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.400 um not finishing that game on our terms, not having 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.240 to put the defense back out there. They did their job. 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.200 You know, they did their job. And you know we 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.200 don't get a first down, we don't run the clock. 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.440 That's tough. You put them back, you know, put them 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.680 back on the field like that. And then at the 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.159 very end, well you saw the two game winning plays. 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.680 You saw the one yard touchdown passed Austin Ekeler with 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.360 fifteen seconds to go, followed by the two point conversion 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.520 to the tight end Gerald Everett, and as Brandon Staley 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.719 said after the game, the Charger's head coach about that 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:00.760 final two point conversion to win it quotes mood like 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:06.320 chocolate milk. So there's that as well. There's there's Look 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.279 the week before in Mexico City, we were there. The 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:13.160 Cardinals lost that game because the Niners won that game. Yes, 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.320 but this game against the Chargers twenty five, twenty four, 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:20.240 the Cardinals lost that game. If you watched it, they 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.320 were so dominant for so long, for such stretches of 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.479 that game. I think that's why. Honestly, that was probably 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.640 the most downbeat locker room of the season been in 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:32.440 there because guys knew man that was there for the taking. Paula. 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.080 I believe that, man, because it was. It was so 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.640 disappointing to me as an analyst to watch it and 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:41.919 a former player to see them actually lose that game 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.359 when they played so well. I already said that, But 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.880 I'll use Isaiah Simmons as a micro cosum. He was 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.120 the micro cosm of this game. Isaiah Simmons had eight tackles, 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.880 eight solo tackles in this game. Isaiah Simmons had a 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.640 huge sack for minus thirteen yards. Remember how big a 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:04.080 player that was that sack. We said ballgame right there, 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:08.840 you say, had that late, late sack Pauli and then 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:13.160 a pass defense as well. He played incredibly well until 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.600 the very end of the game, and you could even 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:20.839 bring it down to the two point conversion where that 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.039 was his man, Everett, the tight end was his man. 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.560 And yet at the same time, you gotta credit the Chargers. 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.760 They did a great job of using eye Candy and 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:35.440 Austin Eckler, and it was exactly what they were hoping 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.359 for that you were going to get Isaiah Simmons eyes 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:43.280 off of Everett for a split second and that's all 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.960 it took on the two point conversion touchdown. So even 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:52.080 though he played so well overall, the last play literally 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.200 that he was out there, he didn't do it. And 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.919 that Cardinals defense had four sacks. I mean, it was 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.600 Isaiah Simmons, was JJ Watter, it was Zach Allen, it 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.440 was Cam Thomas. They made plays. They didn't have any takeaways, 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.760 but they definitely made plays. At Cardinals offensive line. The 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:13.640 eight difference starting old line combination, four backups and the 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:17.680 stalwart Kelvin Beecham, the one constant you're starting right tackle 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.680 who joined us after the game. And you can hear 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.200 the resignation in his voice. At the end of the day, 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.440 it's not about to turnover about him, And we had 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.240 two turnovers, and you're not supposed to win if you 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.120 have two turnovers. But even in spite of that is, 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.240 as you know, stupid. As we played today, we set 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.040 out opportunity to close the game out and we didn't 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.360 do so. Stupid. You didn't like the football IQ, not 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:42.120 at all. How so, I mean, there's an opportunity again 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.480 to close the game out with drives in the fourth quarter, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.920 and offenses that are of playoff caliber are able to 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.120 do so, and we didn't do that today. He didn't 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.880 get into specifics as you might imagine, but let's go 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.640 ahead and translate that sound bite right there. That that 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.640 answer the Q and A. I mean, he's he talking 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.280 football IQ in terms of just execution. Is he talking 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:04.240 about strategy, play calling? Is he talking about like, for example, 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.800 DeAndre Hopkins in Hollywood Brown getting combined one target in 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.600 the fourth quarter when Tray McBride got a couple? What 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.080 are you going to be all the above? Yes, I 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.600 think that's what it is. PA. I think the answer 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.560 is yes. I also think too, there were a couple 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.960 of high profile mm's mental errors that I think also 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:29.160 happened over the course of those last few possessions right there. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.920 I think of the first down run to James Connor 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:38.000 that was stuffed to buy a Drew Tranquil. To remember Tranquil, 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.480 he blitzed a rundown blitz. Actually they brought him down 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.760 through the bee gap and he shot through the bee gap. 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.679 And I believe that that was a deuce block they 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.600 had going on right there where they did not pick 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.160 it up. That is where two offensive linemen are going 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.920 to work from the defensive linemen up to the second 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:03.240 level where you had Drew Tranquil and he shot the gap. 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:08.839 And I think that it was a mental error. Somebody 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.440 did not come off when they should have come off. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:16.920 And when you hear Calvin Beecham say stupid football mental errors, 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.800 I think at the end could be what he's talking 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.720 about as well. Yeah, he mentioned that the Chargers consistently 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.679 pressured on second down. That was their strategy. They did adjust, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:29.640 but there was a big sack of Kyler Murray late 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.160 on second down. Should the Cardinals have known that was coming, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.319 should the ball have been out gentle or should have 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.320 someone had picked up the extra blitzer. The extra runner 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.520 should have, Pauli, whether it was an offensive lineman or 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.960 running back the responsibility to pick it up or Kyler 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:50.720 Murray the quarterback himself to know that's hot. If this 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.760 guy comes, I've got to throw the hot. So the 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.360 Cardinals loose. They've lost four out of five. And after 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.280 the game we asked the head coach, Cliff Kingsbury, and 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.599 his message to the team going into the bye We 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.679 just started about we got a bye week coming up. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.440 We gotta arrests, recovery set, and got five games. We're 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.120 gonna see how good Win be as a team. Yeah, 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:08.880 they come out, they have an extra day. Actually, the 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.160 next game is going to be Monday night against the 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:15.200 Patriots in Week fourteen. They're off this weekend and they're 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.040 gonna self scout. Every team does that during the bye week. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:19.480 I mean, are there are a couple of things that 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.200 stand out? Well? Do you think when they look at 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.040 the film and I know the music's rolling here, we 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.240 got Darren Urban next. But is it one or two 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:30.959 things you think really stand out that can be addressed immediately? Yeah, Polly, 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:34.000 I think, how do you get the ball to Deandrey 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.120 Hopkins and Hollywood Brown a little bit more, especially in 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:41.640 clutch situations. They're gonna see a lot of two safeties 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.200 over these last five games. They're gonna see a lot 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.000 of two safeties high. That means you've got to be 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.640 able to run the ball to bring that safety down. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.559 And when you get them to bring that safety down, 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.439 that's when you've got to exploit the secondary with Hollywood 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.360 Brown and d how And the Cardinals definitely made the 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.920 Chargers pay, especially in that first half with the run game. 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.240 You saw James Conner get into the second level easily 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.600 with frequency. All Right, what else is on the Cardinals 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.719 plate as they prepared for the final five games of 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.599 the season. Cardinals insider Darren Rban is next. I'm the 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:19.600 Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert hand 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:21.520 off James Conner running to the left out a hole 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.760 twenty five thirty thirty five, forty ragged down at the 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.640 forty one. Boy, that's as big of a hole as 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.360 we've seen opened up for the Cardinals this year. On 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.520 the run games, Connor the long back, Murray hands it 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.679 to him off the left side for a priest at 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:39.160 fifty five forty and down to the thirty seven of 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:43.960 the Chargers twenty more yards on the ground. O Sante 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:49.800 Samuel Junior came off the cornerback and suddenly he realized 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.040 that it was one on one with James Connor on 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.719 the outside. I thought he was gonna get his doorbell rung. 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.959 James Connor went right by him with a nice little joke. 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.040 And what telling me say after the game? Get James 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:02.760 Conner on a corner, get him out there on a 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.320 dB and then look out. And you saw it early 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.560 against the Chargers. Four of his first five runs eighteen yards, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.920 eight yards, eight yards, six yards. He ends up twenty 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.600 five carries for a buck twenty That is a Cardinals 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.640 high his first one hundred plus yard rushing game as 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:22.880 an Arizona Cardinal. Had the receiving touchdown as well. And Wolf, 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.800 you're now officially back to your full buyack days, fullback 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.800 blocking for our Darren Rbott Cardinals insider who joins us 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.200 here on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.560 and Gilbert. What's up? How you doing? Thanks for having me? So, 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.880 what do you think is that a one game metamorphosis 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.480 of the offense in a way because you had the 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.760 league worst Chargers rush defense. We knew look good yards 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.600 per carry given up coming in They had given up 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.920 the most yards per carry to date in a season 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:53.079 since the nineteen seventy merger. Or do you think with 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:57.000 healthy James Conner and maybe a different run game coordinator 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.280 in Steve Hyden, will this be more of the DNA 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.120 over the final month of the season. I think it's 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.839 I feel fairly confident in saying that Cardinals are not 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.839 going to be able to run like that against the Patriots. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:08.880 Let's put it that way. I mean, even the beginning 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.360 of that game. I don't know if it was because 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.000 the Chargers, knowing what they couldn't couldn't do against the run, 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.240 they decided to jam the box, But it was almost 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.480 like all James Connor had to do is get to 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.080 the outside and they just didn't bother having anybody out there. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.880 It was really odd to see early in the game 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.080 that the amount of room James Connor had to run. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.800 I mean, it wasn't it wasn't hard to get out there. Yeah, 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.760 I mean he was to the second level all the time. Yeah, 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.120 Easily one of the things once again is going to 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:39.720 happen though, is you're going to see a lot of 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.240 two safeties playing hot. You're going to see a lot 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.520 of cover two shell that is going to be played 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:49.480 against the likes of Hollywood Brown in DeAndre Hopkins, especially 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.040 with Kyler back and healthy. Once again, even if you 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.840 had Colt McCoy, I think you'd be seeing an awful 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.240 lot of that as well. And I think that's going 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.640 to be something that they're going to get a steady 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.280 die off. That means you've got to be able to 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.320 run the ball. If in fact you're gonna have two 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.360 safeties high, you have to be able to run the 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.560 ball in that situation. And that's why it was good 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.120 to actually see them commit to doing that. Well, how 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.959 many times you said with backup offensive linement, and four 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.600 of your five offensive linement are backups at this point, 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:23.800 four starters on IR you know what, they're probably better 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.440 at run blocking than pass blocking. So okay, With that 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:31.440 in mind, plus the departure of Sean Coogler the offensive 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.960 line coach and run game coordinator, and Steve Hyden and 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.240 Brian Natkin now in charge on that side, Cliff Kingsbury 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.720 was asked about the offensive line play. You know Brian 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.280 Atkin and Steve Hyden got together and had some thoughts, 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.400 different ideas, and I think it was more about the 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:50.040 physical play up front. Those guys really took pride this 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.680 week and after the previous week we didn't think we 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.760 played as physicals. We needed to stepped up and created 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.920 some some nice running lanes and I thought James finished 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:02.160 runs downhill and so that was positive. Schematically, you know, 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.840 there's similarities, and obviously those guys are gonna put their 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.080 own spin on things as well, so maybe a little 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.560 bit maybe a little bit of a different scheme or 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.960 approach to the run game maybe, But I think most importantly, 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.040 because Cliff Kingsbury said it with us after the game 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.440 as well, they just felt like Monday night in Mexico City, 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.560 they weren't as physical as a forty nine ers. I 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.040 think we'd all agree that was the case. So that 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.440 was most definitely a point emphasis. And you know what, Darren, 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:29.000 that's something you can control in this final month plus 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.280 of this season. The want to the effort, the intensity 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.840 on the line of scrimmage. I don't disagree with that. 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.240 You know, again you're talking you are talking about backup 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.840 offensive lineman. I think Josh Jones has played pretty well. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.840 We saw Max Garcia back in the lineup now that 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:48.960 he's finally healthy. Unfortunately, Cody Ford seems to have been 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.000 surpassed on the depth chart by Richard Coward. So I 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.200 don't know if that trades worked out exactly how they 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.600 had hoped. When Billy praates the center. But when you 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:02.280 have the backups, you're right, you can control that, but 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.080 so can the other team. And you're talking about the reserves, 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.800 and there is a there is a talent level portion 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.560 to this equation that, especially to me and the run game, 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.920 that becomes harder to scheme and more about the talent. 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:24.560 To me, I say, yes, we know Derby was a 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:28.920 back no no, but see to me, like in the 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.000 passing game, I feel like there are times when you 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:37.360 can you can definitely scheme up situations to not always 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.160 get over the talent, but it's I think it's y 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.040 get rid of it. Yeah, whereas the running game, it 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.280 to me, it does come down to the talent. And 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.720 and and right now that you know the Cardinals are 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.680 so banged up, and and and we we saw what 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.560 happened with the Chargers the Patriots, Bill Belichick knows what 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.920 he's doing with that kind of stuff. So that's the thing, Denver, 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.000 He's got a pretty good defense. Their offense is horrible, 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.080 but their defense is really good. Todd Bowles knows what 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.879 he's doing on defense with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, like 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.719 those are your next three opponents, so you know, we'll 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.000 see what happens. And to your point that they are 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.119 banged up and it doesn't look like it's going to change, 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.560 because here's the latest. DJ Humphrey's on IR and Cliff 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.880 Kingsbury asked to be He's out for the year. Just 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.920 wasn't progressing like we thought. We were hopeful for a 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.119 while that maybe of something he could come back the 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.240 last few weeks and play, but at this point that 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.320 won't be possible. So yes, he has done for the year. Wolf. 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.440 In fact, dress goes quickly, Polly right here. I'm sorry 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.199 to cut you off, but I gotta jump in. I mean, 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.359 DJ Humphries is the one thing about him, if you 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.400 watch him on type, he's a dog. You know, this 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.680 is a guy that goes out in balls. This is 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:47.600 a guy that is a dog. This is a guy 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.480 that will try to bury you. There's a mentality that 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:55.520 DJ Humphries brings to a football field, and I know 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.840 it's hard for us when we see him. He's always smiling, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.159 he's always laughing and everything. Even sometimes on the field 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.240 he's doing that. But he does have a dog mentality, 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:08.359 and I think that's what's going to be missed as 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.720 much as anything else for the next five games for 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:15.639 this team. Is that dog mentality that DJ Humphries brings 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.440 and playing left tackle right now former third round pick 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:22.480 Josh Jones and Cliff Kingsbury was asked about his recent performance. 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.040 I think he's held his own. He's been waiting for 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.879 an opportunity. I know at times he's been frustrated because 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.280 we have had Beach and DJ playing at a high level. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.400 But he stepped in and played well. So that's encouraging 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.280 for us moving forward. And being able to play right 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.040 left be that swing guy, I think is a huge 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.400 bonus for us because think about it, Darren, we talked 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:42.959 about this the other day. I mean, there are a 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:47.119 lot of questions on this roster, especially with this offensive line. Yeah, 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:50.600 DJ Humphrey's is the only guy under contract going into 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.199 next year. I think right technically, Rodney Hudson is, But 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:57.560 I'm feeling fairly confident. Rodney Hudson's probably getting to the 0:18:57.600 --> 0:18:59.520 point where he's going to say, yeah, I thought about 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.960 retiring this year for this very reason. I wasn't sure 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:07.000 my body could hold up, and unfortunately it hasn't. So Um. Yeah, 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.560 Justin Pugh's a free agent. Will Hernandez is a free agent. 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.880 Max Garcia is a free agent, Calvin Beacham's a free agent, 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.200 Cody Ford is a free agent. Rashad Coward is a 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:20.199 free agent. Wow. Wow, that's interest. I mean, where do 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.840 you start about what derb? I mean, there's a there's 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.800 a reason why I think they wanted to play Lessie 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.720 to Smith a little bit to see what he had. Um. 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.800 I think Josh Jones has played solid football and that's 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.120 a good thing. Now the question is with Josh Jones 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.399 if Kelvin Beacham's not around here. And I think Kelvin 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.840 Breacham brings to the table a lot more than just 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:40.479 what he does on the field. So that's something you've 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:44.399 got to think about. Um, do you is Josh Jones? 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.400 Are you comfortable with him at right tackle? If DJ 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.800 Humphries continue to be left? Is there any chance you 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.000 do with DJ Humphries that you did with Jared vel 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.840 there when Dji to the right side, and I have 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:58.800 Josh Jones your left tackle. I mean, I think these 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:00.000 are some of the things you got to figure out. 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:03.400 But in the interior you got to just make sure 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.920 you have bodies right now they don't have those. Can 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.040 I just say this quickly as well? Um, Josh Jones 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.159 to me seems to have played a lot better on 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.240 the left side than he has the right. Yeah, that's 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.280 that's why I brought it up. Yes, that was his 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:22.240 entire career in college left side. Let's not forget there 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.320 are people involved here, and you know how this goes. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:26.119 Jared Veldier was not happy when he had to go 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:29.639 from left to right. Yes, DJ Humphries, I'm guessing who 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.600 desperately wanted to play left wouldn't be all that thrilled 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:34.800 to go from left right. And I'm not even suggesting 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.280 an he's brought that up, DJ, I don't know anything, 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.040 but and he's paid like a left tackle. But yes, 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.840 that's true. But at this point, I think, especially with 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.080 the way the CAP's going to be at least next year, 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.680 I think you go into it saying we're paying offensive 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.119 line X amount of dollars and wherever they end up, 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.080 they end up. I mean, yeah, Dj Humphries are getting 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:55.320 paid like a left tackle. But if you put it 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.760 Josh Jones at left tackle, he's not getting paid like 0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:59.600 a left tackle. So it's all the same. It all 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.919 comes out, yes, All right, Well, look, this might not 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:04.919 be the norm all the way through the rest of 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:08.560 this season. There could be potential reinforcements on the old 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.880 line after the bye. Here's Cliff Kingsbury or hopeful will 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.199 or Rodney. I don't know what that's gonna look like, 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:17.399 but hopefully one of the two at some point in 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:19.280 the near future we can get back in there. I'm 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:22.879 guessing Will hernad is much more likely, yes than Rodney Hudson. 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.760 But even so, I mean, Will Hernandez was playing really 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.520 good football from all accounts at that right guard position, 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:31.159 right was I think he was. I think he's earned 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.919 the chance to be back again next year if they 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.560