Speaker 1: Is there such thing as too much cream cheese on
Speaker 1: a bagel? I'm not talking about being obscene and putting
Speaker 1: a whole thing, but would Jarry be like, wow, you
Speaker 1: put a lot of the cream cheese on your bagel?
Speaker 2: I think structurally the limit physics limits you before it
Speaker 2: too much.
Speaker 3: There's a saturation point.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, but I'm saying, do you like a
Speaker 1: healthy smear of cream cheese on there versus like some
Speaker 1: people like like it light and I'm like, no, bro,
Speaker 1: I need I need some of that cream for me personally.
Speaker 3: That's like asking if there's too much gravy on turkey.
Speaker 3: There's not really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, so okay, so Justin is an intellectual.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you hit the physical limits. I will say something
Speaker 4: has changed with the kids. Where the kids my kids
Speaker 4: and judging from other kids who have had bagels at
Speaker 4: birthday parties that I've been around, they don't like the
Speaker 4: heavy shr anymore. My kids want it treated like butter,
Speaker 4: like the way you butter a bagel, Like it's I
Speaker 4: put you know how much butter I put on ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: They they like it so that like you can see
Speaker 4: the bagel mostly and then there's just like something it's
Speaker 4: like an aderation that they're exercising. I know my kids
Speaker 4: like don't like cheese. They don't like Maybe it's the
Speaker 4: cream cheese. They might be lactose intolerant. I don't like
Speaker 4: ice cream for some reason.
Speaker 1: They don't like milkmus. It's lactate.
Speaker 3: They're like sitting on the toilet for six hours.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's wrong with it.
Speaker 4: Weird, Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three point
Speaker 4: fifty six, episode four of Dirty's Ice Theory production of
Speaker 4: iHeart Radio and amer Because Only Undecided podcast. This is
Speaker 4: a podcast where we take a deep dive into America
Speaker 4: share consciousness.
Speaker 1: What man We keep saying that that happened when I
Speaker 1: was gone. Oh just just the trend of manufactured.
Speaker 4: Uh media's obsession with undecided.
Speaker 1: It's to get all.
Speaker 4: I just want the New York Times to notice me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this'd be like, this podcast is amazing. Look at
Speaker 1: listen to how they talk. They're truly undecided.
Speaker 4: We checked in with some undecided voters and they had
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Speaker 1: This biracial rat earth or this biracial flat earther is calm,
Speaker 1: a curious.
Speaker 4: It is Thursday, September nineteenth twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what that is? Right?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: I do. It's National pop PA Day. Dude, what is
Speaker 1: a pop pop b A W P A W. It's
Speaker 1: an American it's a fruit. Yeah, it's a mango banana
Speaker 1: flavored popa. And I'm like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: They're delicious and they've been lost to history. But you
Speaker 3: guys should check out historic culinary traditions in America. That's
Speaker 3: one of them.
Speaker 1: There it is. Yeah, I had an idea. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: call it the kent Kentucky banana or Hillbilly mango apparently. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in for a Kentucky banana if you don't mind
Speaker 1: about to change some of my responses later. I love this.
Speaker 1: It's also National butter Scotch Day. I'm speaking of one
Speaker 1: hundred year old things. Shout out a nice bit of
Speaker 1: butter scotch pudding day. Butter scotch. Oh yeah, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: butterscotch pudding. My bad. Talk like a pirate day. So
Speaker 1: don't tell your kids or else going to know the
Speaker 1: fuck out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't tell that guy that you work with, don't
Speaker 4: the guy who makes a noisy.
Speaker 2: One of one of you guys is the coworker who
Speaker 2: does talk like a pirate day and I'm gonna find
Speaker 2: out which one it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look around you.
Speaker 4: Is there somebody who's the guy who's annoying on National
Speaker 4: talk like?
Speaker 1: Then it's you. You come on.
Speaker 4: You'd be hard pressed to brood which one of us
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Speaker 4: check that one out, folks. I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 4: as always by my co host mister Miles.
Speaker 1: Gray Miles Gray King Kriking It's club What's down inside
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Speaker 1: a little wheezer Beverly Hills was quite.
Speaker 4: That's one where I read it on the discord and
Speaker 4: I was excited to hear you sing it so and
Speaker 4: he did not disappoint. Well, Miles, we are through to
Speaker 4: be joined in our third seat by one of the
Speaker 4: very faces on Mount Zitemore, a hilarious and brilliant producer
Speaker 4: and TV writer. You know him from the Joss Racist podcast.
Speaker 1: It's Andrew T.
Speaker 6: Andrew Gordy slowly back to zoom Land, back to the pod.
Speaker 1: Well, my akay is a Stolenn.
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Speaker 6: Come the course every day is like takes day every
Speaker 6: day with Jack and Miles Gray.
Speaker 1: Oh that's as far as I got.
Speaker 2: Wow song from noted racist Morris Morrisey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on a day we're talking about immigration. Yes, he's
Speaker 1: a cool guy. I didn't think it was maybe a
Speaker 1: Smith's song, but no Morrisey. When I used to work,
Speaker 1: I've priced this story before when I used to work
Speaker 1: like events. I worked a Morrissey show and like like
Speaker 1: doing concessions and stuff, and like no one was allowed
Speaker 1: to bring meat in, Like you couldn't even eat your
Speaker 1: own meat. When he was there, I was like, my
Speaker 1: own meat. I love eating my own meat. But they
Speaker 1: don't know. They didn't allow everything Vegan, Yeah, don't play
Speaker 1: with your own meat. To quote Doc Rivers, Yeah, yeah, more.
Speaker 4: I think I had to work a fish show once
Speaker 4: and just the only sober five people in the building
Speaker 4: were like we're tenth graders who were just like I
Speaker 4: don't know what we were even doing, like selling concessions
Speaker 4: or something for our basketball team.
Speaker 1: It's very weird. Oh at a fish show. At a
Speaker 1: fish show? Yeah, oh when you said working at fish show,
Speaker 1: I didn't even like what like event stuff, like event stuff,
Speaker 1: just you went to do a fundraising sell like Baker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like one of the things.
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember one time we worked the parking
Speaker 4: lot at a I think it was a horse race
Speaker 4: because this was in Kentucky. But like, yeah, they would
Speaker 4: just like get weird jobs for us to do that
Speaker 4: would like raise money for the basketball team, which is
Speaker 4: like someone like grip.
Speaker 1: Hey man, I got about fifteen fourteen year olds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly an event. What just get back to this strange
Speaker 1: knowing you guys.
Speaker 2: Worked big concerts really actually makes the trailer for the
Speaker 2: movie Trap make a lot more sense to me, just
Speaker 2: the part where the dude just tells him all the
Speaker 2: information about what's like the concessions guys like, yeah, there's
Speaker 2: an FBI sting and they're trying to catch the killer,
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, yeah, that's how.
Speaker 1: It would go down.
Speaker 2: It's just like if any bozo working concessions was given
Speaker 2: the full plan of the FBI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it there it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those massive events are like not run by the
Speaker 4: I think I think of those people as cops, but
Speaker 4: they're not.
Speaker 1: They're just people pro staff. Yeah, just like staff.
Speaker 4: At like the Crypto Arena and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: They walk confidently behind doors that you feel like, what
Speaker 2: even would it take for me to get access to that?
Speaker 4: There's probably snipers back there. My first thought, Yeah, what
Speaker 4: a weird What a weird thing. I wonder if that
Speaker 4: has changed or if high school kids are still like
Speaker 4: working events just on a volunteer basis.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like when you're a kid. I remember
Speaker 1: doing all kinds of stuff. It's like, Yo, dude, my
Speaker 1: dad will give us forty bucks if we work twelve
Speaker 1: hours at his like shop, and you're like forty bucks
Speaker 1: for twelve hours. Yeah, okay, I'm sure kids still get
Speaker 1: into that shit or like free hell yeah, free under
Speaker 1: the no, Actually you gotta fill out at I nine.
Speaker 4: What the fuck's so worried about taxes and tens?
Speaker 2: I mean I could be farming bitcoin online, but this
Speaker 2: sounds much better.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, kids are probably like way too sophisticated to do that.
Speaker 1: Be like, why would I do that?
Speaker 4: I could be fucking grifting somebody, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like four X trading. They're like, I don't know. Actually,
Speaker 1: with the weakness of the sterling, the pound sterling, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I should take that job. You're like, god,
Speaker 1: so fucking savvy.
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you have any idea how many
Speaker 4: old people there are in this country who will just
Speaker 4: click on any email that I sent them that has
Speaker 4: like Trump demands that you.
Speaker 1: Open this link. Yeah, true passive income.
Speaker 4: All right, Andrew, we're gonna get to know you a
Speaker 4: little bit better in a moment. Just first, we're gonna
Speaker 4: tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
Speaker 4: I think we have the answer. Is this racist on
Speaker 4: this first story?
Speaker 1: Yes it is.
Speaker 4: The Springfield story continues to dominate the headlines. I even
Speaker 4: saw a Miami Herald headline that was like, think the
Speaker 4: Springfield story is hurting Trump? Think again, And it was
Speaker 4: like an opinion piece in the Miami Herald. But that
Speaker 4: website has since the last time I went there, gone
Speaker 4: completely to hell, and like when I tried to open it,
Speaker 4: like seven pop ups like showed up on my So
Speaker 4: I have no idea what their thesis is.
Speaker 1: Wait, but they were trying to say it's not an
Speaker 1: issue because there's like a half a minute, like there's
Speaker 1: like a very significant Haitian population in Florida. So he's
Speaker 1: like this opinion, He's like, it doesn't matter that. I think,
Speaker 1: like it's good. We're good here.
Speaker 4: He's doing he's winning voters, he's being savvy.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about the continued fallout from that story.
Speaker 4: We're going to talk about their continued policy of doubling
Speaker 4: down on making fun of Kamala Harris for not having
Speaker 4: given physically given birth to another person. We're gonna talk
Speaker 4: about Trump's melting brain. We actually have a good a
Speaker 4: piece of good news today. Fatal drug overdoses have dropped
Speaker 4: drastically in the last year. So we're going to talk
Speaker 4: about that, the changing meaning of the word AI, all
Speaker 4: of that, plenty more. But first, Andrew, we do like
Speaker 4: to ask our guest, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 2: Oh, this is like a series of increasingly panicked and
Speaker 2: specific searches on YouTube. My sister and nephew visited this
Speaker 2: weekend and I had to learn how to install and
Speaker 2: then reinstall a car seat for a child in the
Speaker 2: waiting line of Burbank Airport.
Speaker 1: Because I put it. I put it in wrong. You
Speaker 1: guys are Dad's you. I guess you probably know about
Speaker 1: backwards versus forwards facing. I did as long as you can,
Speaker 1: as long as you can get them facing backwards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I had in the front seat facing forward.
Speaker 3: I had it on top.
Speaker 1: With my like the fucking clip Beverly Hillbillies, like the
Speaker 1: clampits are coming down.
Speaker 4: As one of those roof racks. I think that's yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was solid.
Speaker 2: No, it was one of those things where it was
Speaker 2: like my because it's what the forty pound was. The
Speaker 2: limit was the limit on the fucking car seat. And
Speaker 2: I just remembered my sister bragging so much about how
Speaker 2: like tall my nephew is for his age. So I
Speaker 2: just genuinely was like that motherfucker's probably fortys right, So
Speaker 2: I told it, bring it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was like, yeah, a motorcycle.
Speaker 4: For motorcycle sidecar and yeah, and it was.
Speaker 2: Just like unacceptable, which is like, fine, that's on me,
Speaker 2: but then having to readjust a car seat, like with
Speaker 2: my blinkers on, with people honking behind me at which
Speaker 2: at least it wasn't lax. It could have been worse,
Speaker 2: but it was not great.
Speaker 1: That's fucking stressful. It was.
Speaker 2: It was the most stress I an individual, he was created,
Speaker 2: the least stressful life possible has.
Speaker 1: Experienced me precisely. Yeah, that's always how it works. It's
Speaker 1: like next thing, you know, you're clogging up burbank. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the signal to Google this ship right now.
Speaker 2: And it's like it's also like those like like installation youtubes.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the you can skip around and
Speaker 2: find it, but the fucking preamble. I was just like, yeah, lady,
Speaker 2: come on. It's fine, it's fine. Yeah, I know there's
Speaker 2: a great car seat. Yeah, a lot of great features.
Speaker 2: Tell me how to fix this.
Speaker 1: This is That's what the YouTube premium should be.
Speaker 2: It should just be instructional videos that actually get without preamble.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I would pay for that.
Speaker 4: I remember the first time installing a car seat, like before,
Speaker 4: we were going to the hospital to have our first
Speaker 4: and just like they, I think they tell you that
Speaker 4: you have to like get a fire like somebody works
Speaker 4: at the fire in the fire or check it for you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: which makes sense, So I mean, it does make sense.
Speaker 4: It's also like wow that I'm I must be fucking
Speaker 4: this up in some way because it seems fairly straightforward
Speaker 4: to me, Like I think I think this YouTube video
Speaker 4: kind of explained it.
Speaker 1: Wow, because when we were having our kid, Herd, she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're supposed to go to the fire station
Speaker 1: a CHP thing, and I was like, I ain't going,
Speaker 1: no fucking CHP shit for what And She's like to
Speaker 1: fucking at least know from that the people who deal
Speaker 1: with car accidents all the time that the car seat
Speaker 1: is in there. It's like you're not going there to
Speaker 1: fucking give them money and high five them. I'm like, yeah, fine,
Speaker 1: and so we go. The nicest fucking guy comes out.
Speaker 1: He's like he was like a clearly just like wanted
Speaker 1: to be a desk CHP guy. He was like wearing
Speaker 1: he had his shirt on but had like jeans on,
Speaker 1: and it was just like you guys having a kid.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I'm a grandpa started showing me
Speaker 1: his like very cute family. He's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you a pool noodle because I think
Speaker 1: this can be a little bit. I don't like this.
Speaker 1: Give here. He got a pool noodle like cut it
Speaker 1: by like custom fit it to our thing. And I
Speaker 1: was like, this motherfucker just whispering crab under your breath
Speaker 1: the whole time.
Speaker 4: Still a cab, motherfucker. He's like what was that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, thank you so much, sir, Thank you. Child
Speaker 1: is adorable. Congratulations, thank you so much. We backed the
Speaker 1: We backed the beigeh where Khaki was a pool noodle.
Speaker 1: Blue was a blue. No, it was green. It was
Speaker 1: pay damn yeah. And we gave that car seat to
Speaker 1: another friend who was having a kid, and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: take this this pool noodle also goes the one way,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they definitely check it out. I was curious.
Speaker 1: It is so funny to me, it doesn't it makes
Speaker 1: sense when you guys say it, but like the amount,
Speaker 1: I know, it's just like the fucking nanny state, I guess. Like,
Speaker 1: but how much of infant ship falls to firefighters is
Speaker 1: wild to me. It's hard for me to imagine a
Speaker 1: firefighter and a baby at the time, just like this. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're having trouble and envisioning it used Ai and baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, everyone everyone hit me on Twitter with this
Speaker 2: burn burned down a glacier, melted glacier and generated an
Speaker 2: image of firefighter with band.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: Wait, you can just look at this calendar. I have
Speaker 4: the same.
Speaker 1: Under temper to here he comes. Look at those overalls.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you can just drop your baby off
Speaker 4: at the fire station.
Speaker 1: They want to know, why is that a thing?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's great that it's a thing, like a
Speaker 2: conservative now, but specifically those guys, I just it's just
Speaker 2: like I think, because they have time, there's a there's
Speaker 2: a level of like medical care, like you know, literacy
Speaker 2: that firefighters have.
Speaker 1: So it's not you know, they're not they're not the
Speaker 1: guys with guns who shoot the four people. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: and I guess what is what is my vision? A
Speaker 1: kindly nun like? What I where do? Where do I
Speaker 1: think you should like?
Speaker 4: You know, like, oh yeah, no, you don't have to
Speaker 4: drop them off here. You could always drop them off
Speaker 4: at the Catholic church. I have no I don't know why.
Speaker 4: My brain is just like eighties children media pilled. I
Speaker 4: guess at least preach precinct. That'll be you know, yeah, handle.
Speaker 1: Baby baby gats. They won't even ask questions, Yeah what uh?
Speaker 1: What's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2: Well now off of this pop pop business. I do
Speaker 2: think fruits that are so fragile they don't handle industrialized
Speaker 2: shipping are always the best fruits you've ever had. And
Speaker 2: it's not underrated. But it's just like impossible to find.
Speaker 2: I had a fucking wax apple.
Speaker 4: The other day, honestly, not that on that a in
Speaker 4: the like the fake fruit that's in like a fake
Speaker 4: bowl of fruit.
Speaker 1: Yeh, made of wax. They're called gallery eating the display
Speaker 1: fruit in a bowl.
Speaker 2: I think they're called yeah, oh, Java apple is the
Speaker 2: other name for it, javass apple, bass apple, Java like
Speaker 2: oh oh, oh, what the fuck is this? She looks
Speaker 2: like a pepper. Yeah, it was crazy, and honestly, wasn't
Speaker 2: that good. But the only other time I'd had them
Speaker 2: was in Taiwan, and I was like, yeah, crazy, yeah.
Speaker 2: But I also I got a cherimoya the other day
Speaker 2: at Charmoia for anyone, not basically in Los Angeles or
Speaker 2: Mexico right, parts of maybe further down in Central America,
Speaker 2: because it's like it's the fragileist fruit I've ever like,
Speaker 2: it's basically like if a pear.
Speaker 1: Was made out of like puddy yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 2: And like to the point where I picked it up
Speaker 2: in the market, my fingers went straight up through it.
Speaker 2: And I was still like, I'll buy this one. And
Speaker 2: also and I think I might have gone to the
Speaker 2: kind of the wrong place. It was like twenty six dollars,
Speaker 2: oh shit, but it was I wish it was. It
Speaker 2: was literally like a this place in Chinatown that's a
Speaker 2: Vietnamese sort of bodega type vibe called My Tongue, which has,
Speaker 2: as far as I know, the best bun me in
Speaker 2: La City.
Speaker 1: Wow shit, which is.
Speaker 2: Splitting a lot of hairs because there's a lot of
Speaker 2: I think to most as far as I understand, like
Speaker 2: people per you know, a lot of really good Vietnamese food,
Speaker 2: it just sometimes often is not technically within LA City
Speaker 2: limits right places that people would still call La certainly
Speaker 2: Orange Counties, certainly San Gaveo Valley, that sort of LA count.
Speaker 1: Right right, right, right right. Oh, but if you are
Speaker 1: bound to what we define as LA City municipally, that's
Speaker 1: where yeah, I believe that is that is the consensus
Speaker 1: best play. Did you get Wait, you had Vietnamese ice coffee, right, Jack?
Speaker 1: Did you finally get that? Yeah? Yeah, I did, Okay.
Speaker 1: I was just making sure I couldn't handle it.
Speaker 4: Man. It was like I took like I took about
Speaker 4: a quarter down, and I was just like, I feel
Speaker 4: like nervous and like it's bad about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real drugs.
Speaker 4: It's real drugs. And that that was the sales point
Speaker 4: that they had written on the counter when I got it.
Speaker 1: It's real drugs. Vietnamese ice coffee. Yeah.
Speaker 4: By the way, I was just trying to make the
Speaker 4: point for people about like La City versus La County.
Speaker 4: La County is four thousand in eighty four square miles.
Speaker 4: Rhode Island is one thousand, and thirty three square miles,
Speaker 4: so La County is four times bigger than Rhode Island.
Speaker 1: We should have eight senators.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we should have eight senators.
Speaker 1: We should have eight senators than like, and I should
Speaker 1: be one of them. I mean, with that many, if
Speaker 1: with proportional representation of one of us on this pod
Speaker 1: has a chance, I mean, what's what's something you think
Speaker 1: is overrated?
Speaker 2: Overrated? Shitting on bad restaurants. It's just like I was
Speaker 2: in this is. I was in San Diego this weekend
Speaker 2: for this is. We we, after literally four years, finally
Speaker 2: buried my grandma at Sea and my racist white uncle.
Speaker 2: It we did a lit a two for burial at
Speaker 2: Sea in San Diego on Saturday. If anyone's checking their
Speaker 2: calendars or just fallowing local Sokel news, they might have
Speaker 2: put together. That was also the day a Trump Armada
Speaker 2: rally was in San Diego Bay.
Speaker 1: Oh god.
Speaker 2: So it was the single most fucked up like four
Speaker 2: hours of family time because also my family kind of like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's that like Taiwanese conservatives, like they were
Speaker 2: often Republican voters, some of them got split off because
Speaker 2: they thought Trump was finally too racist. But they're not
Speaker 2: not Trump people, whereas everyone of the younger generation obviously
Speaker 2: is like, this is fucking insane. But we went to
Speaker 2: an unbelievably racist restaurant. Unbelievably racist. Helly, we went to
Speaker 2: this place called Bali High. I'm gonna say their name
Speaker 2: with my full chest. It's a well known tiki restaurant,
Speaker 2: tiki bar. People really like it. Their statuary outside, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna for you guys, hold it up to the
Speaker 2: zoom window. It's sort of like if a California raisin
Speaker 2: was an unbelievably racist depiction of a I guess savage.
Speaker 1: I believe it's supposed to be Polynesian, but it's like
Speaker 1: full on bone and nose that kind of business.
Speaker 2: And it's the statue outside to announce their restaurant welcome
Speaker 2: some of you. Yeah, so that was fucking crazy. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the food was insanely bad, but I have over my
Speaker 2: time in San Diego a place that does have good food.
Speaker 2: But I'll just say my family specifically, I I referred
Speaker 2: to this weekend with my cousins and my sister as
Speaker 2: our family's eternal quest to find the driest protein in
Speaker 2: San Diego. We had chicken kebabs, white meat chicken kebobs
Speaker 2: one day that was.
Speaker 1: Unreal chicken bread then and then had it was it
Speaker 1: was it was sort of like a loof of spongelous.
Speaker 5: Yeah right right right, yeah, there's a little gi Yeah yeah,
Speaker 5: there was like it was a little give but like
Speaker 5: just strands of moisture sucking like whatever.
Speaker 1: Holy shit. Yeah. But I think that over my.
Speaker 2: Years going to San Diego, where my dad's family mostly is,
Speaker 2: I have learned that when you especially when you're in again,
Speaker 2: there is good food in San Diego. I understand that,
Speaker 2: but we are going to places that Republicans go to
Speaker 2: and you kind of just got a roll with it.
Speaker 2: Like we went to sushi one time in a fucking
Speaker 2: strip mall white pierced and sushi place, and I like
Speaker 2: this is when I first moved to southern California and
Speaker 2: I was like I a gormand was like, you know,
Speaker 2: oh is the is the ouoni fresh today?
Speaker 1: Like what? And blah blah blah, And like the.
Speaker 2: Thing that you want to get is you know a
Speaker 2: role that has ideally one to three deep fried ingredients
Speaker 2: and like fifteen sauces on it, just like do the
Speaker 2: thing that they do that's the only way to have thing.
Speaker 2: So we were at again unbelievably racist restaurant Bali High,
Speaker 2: and I just was like, yeah, I'm getting fucking coconut
Speaker 2: shrimp and like a fucking like burger, even though it's
Speaker 2: like played as like this, you know, they had like.
Speaker 1: Poke and ship and I was just like, don't no,
Speaker 1: don't forget that it was that has pineapple on it,
Speaker 1: and just for no pineapple on it. Yeah, exactly, like,
Speaker 1: just do do the thing that the worst people want.
Speaker 1: And I was correct, and everyone else in my family
Speaker 1: was wrong as usual, like.
Speaker 4: And it was good, the the pineapple, it was the
Speaker 4: with grilled shrimp on top of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was bad, but it was by far the best
Speaker 2: thing that we got. Yeah, by a million moss. I
Speaker 2: guess that I had a long drive ahead of me,
Speaker 2: so I didn't adult in the tiki drinks. It did
Speaker 2: look like the tiki drinks were incredible. I will say, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's probably what.
Speaker 1: Really. The one thing they do good is the alcohol. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you can scream at your whoever you're with the alcohol.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, you guys putting this thing, that's what we're
Speaker 4: all going to be saying the day after the election, no, man,
Speaker 4: would you guys put in that thing? We elected Trump again?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, well I know a whole a whole
Speaker 2: marina of people that areould be fucking stoked about that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was very unnerving.
Speaker 4: It was a Trump armod, so it was like a
Speaker 4: bunch of Trump supporters on boats.
Speaker 2: Like I kind of gave up counting, but at one
Speaker 2: point we were completely.
Speaker 1: Surrounded by Trump boats. So wait, as you're this was
Speaker 1: who's whose ashes?
Speaker 2: Were you interning both my grandma and you're a racist
Speaker 2: white uncle? Yeah, because we just got it my grandma whatever,
Speaker 2: you need, the whole thing. But it was like between
Speaker 2: COVID and Dodge, just waiting and just for forever to
Speaker 2: get the family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we but so yeah, I would estimate I
Speaker 2: don't know, what's a three sixty.
Speaker 1: View of boats, like oh yeah, dude, I watch this video.
Speaker 1: Is it looks like fucking d day or so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it was. I mean I don't know, I probably
Speaker 1: saw twenty I would say with like easily, there's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: at least twenty votes even in this yeh, dumb Kirk.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, we got a winner.
Speaker 4: We got a lot of folks that was okay, well,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry for your loss with your grandma. The congratulations
Speaker 4: on the burger, Yeah, thank you, thank you. You chose wisely.
Speaker 4: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 4: right back. And we're back, And Springfield continues to stay
Speaker 4: in the media in the headlines. You know, obviously started
Speaker 4: with JD Vance surfacing a bullshit Facebook post, and then
Speaker 4: continued when and escalated when Trump brought it up in
Speaker 4: the debate, and now has continued for a week because
Speaker 4: those two things led to bomb threats and just horridizing
Speaker 4: vandalism being on the innocent people of Springfield.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure the campaign Trump Van's campaign loves this
Speaker 1: because they would love nothing more than to have the
Speaker 1: spotlight back on them because after Brat Summer and now
Speaker 1: it's like something that doesn't have to do with Project
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five or JD Vance, like banging a bark lounger.
Speaker 1: So they're like, yeah, you're like this, this is where
Speaker 1: we'd like to fucking get messy and shit. So you know,
Speaker 1: the story's made up, we know it's all bullshit, but
Speaker 1: we have even more evidence that the campaign gives absolutely
Speaker 1: zero fucks about the truth as long as they can
Speaker 1: perpetuate the immigrants are the reason you have nothing narrative
Speaker 1: rather than you know, the look around and educate ourselves.
Speaker 1: So JD. Vance again, like you said, first posted about
Speaker 1: this pet eating nonsense before the debate, then when people
Speaker 1: called him out. It seems like a staffer called Springfield
Speaker 1: City manager this guy, Brian Heck the day before the
Speaker 1: debate to find out if there's any truth to this.
Speaker 1: This is in I think the New Republic, or this
Speaker 1: might also I think it's the New Republic that's probably
Speaker 1: quoting the Wall Street Journal, but says Heck told the
Speaker 1: staffer that there was quote no verifiable evidence or reports
Speaker 1: and that the quote claims were baseless. In an attempt
Speaker 1: to back up the rumor, Vance's campaign provided a police
Speaker 1: report to the Journal in which a Springfield resident, Anna Kilgore,
Speaker 1: said that her cat was possibly taken her Haitian neighbors.
Speaker 1: When a reporter went to the woman's home last week,
Speaker 1: she said her cat came home only two days after
Speaker 1: she reported it missing, and it was found safe in
Speaker 1: her basement. And it got to the point where she
Speaker 1: said she actually apologized to her neighbor, she said, with
Speaker 1: the help of a translation app and her younger daughter,
Speaker 1: and she was like, I fucked that up. So we
Speaker 1: have the person who's like, I'm not racist with my
Speaker 1: racist Facebook post walked it back. The woman who said
Speaker 1: maybe someone took my cat is like it was in
Speaker 1: my basement. And now the town has been turned completely
Speaker 1: upside down, and you know, residents are growing an increased
Speaker 1: fear of just the right wing outrage mobs and just
Speaker 1: like the amount of fucking conservative stooges that are like
Speaker 1: there now on the ground to try and find shit
Speaker 1: and drum up any kind of fucking evidence that would
Speaker 1: help sort of back this just senophobic claim. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the thing is like these Haitian like people that have
Speaker 1: relocated to Springfield, they're actually helping to revive the city
Speaker 1: of Springfield. Like, you know, the Springfield was one of
Speaker 1: those towns that it was a huge manufacturing hub, and
Speaker 1: there was some stat like some inordinate amount of like
Speaker 1: farming equipment was like manufactured in Springfield like in the
Speaker 1: in like the sixties, and then it obviously began to
Speaker 1: go less and less and less. But now with this
Speaker 1: like influx of like available labor like companies are coming
Speaker 1: back and like people are like, oh shit, like there's
Speaker 1: actually like we have the ability to kind of get
Speaker 1: jobs now. And that's and most people there are saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is actually a good thing. The mayor of Springfield
Speaker 1: is like, I'd rather not Trump visit. He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to Springfield to be there to speak to
Speaker 1: the people. And even the Republican mayor is like, yeah, no, no, now,
Speaker 1: we're good. We're good, We're good. It's just gonna eat
Speaker 1: up resources. We already are stretched thin and you don't
Speaker 1: pay for anything, so fucking please don't even fucking think
Speaker 1: about coming in because of all the bomb threats that
Speaker 1: you caused. Yeah. I don't even know.
Speaker 2: If this is a maybe this was just the headline,
Speaker 2: but I saw it was like Republican mayor won't commit
Speaker 2: Springfield's Republican mayor won't commit to supporting Trump, And it's like,
Speaker 2: where's the fuck take with these people like is evil
Speaker 2: and actively try to destroy your town, And you're still like,
Speaker 2: I can't fully compided.
Speaker 1: Where he's like, because the mayor too is like defending
Speaker 1: his own town. And if he's like he's like this
Speaker 1: is a really terrible way to talk about immigration that's
Speaker 1: really helped our town. And it's like, Okay, so you're
Speaker 1: on the side. You're not on his side, right, he
Speaker 1: sounds like you are diametrically opposed on this on this issue. Okay,
Speaker 1: now what do you think about him? You know, I
Speaker 1: can't believe you know, you know who can say you
Speaker 1: know what? I actually do think they're all coming from Haitia.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the problem, literally said yesterday.
Speaker 2: I I will just say, also, though, the thing that
Speaker 2: I don't know what fucking like internal polling or like
Speaker 2: triangulation the fucking like Harris campaign is doing. But the
Speaker 2: fact that they haven't just been out every day like
Speaker 2: this is racist. Fuck these people is unbelievably troubling. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like what is holding them up?
Speaker 1: I think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and making the arguments about immigration that like this
Speaker 4: being one of the signs of like the power of
Speaker 4: immigration and immigration is not a scary thing, it's a
Speaker 4: great thing. And like, you know, I mean, Mike DeWine,
Speaker 4: like who is a Republican, very popular Republican governor of Ohio,
Speaker 4: like came out and was saying that like these Haitians
Speaker 4: came in to work for these companies. What the companies
Speaker 4: tell us is that they are very good workers. They're
Speaker 4: very happy to have them there, and frankly that's helped
Speaker 4: the economy. Like it feels like there's this is a
Speaker 4: layup and just sitting back and being like, h talk
Speaker 4: about weird like that seems to be the extent to
Speaker 4: which they've engaged with it. Well, yeah, and I think
Speaker 4: on immigration too, I don't think she really wants to
Speaker 4: again because like her position on immigration is the same
Speaker 4: thing as like what the Biden administration with pushing for,
Speaker 4: like that very very conservative immigration bill to again, so
Speaker 4: they had some kind of defense against attacks on their
Speaker 4: stance on immigration come the election. But like most people
Speaker 4: like this is actually like this isn't good at all,
Speaker 4: Like this isn't for this isn't progressive in any way.
Speaker 1: This is regressive. And so I mean, I know when
Speaker 1: she did she met with the you know, National Association
Speaker 1: of Black Journalists, and then there was like I think
Speaker 1: it's a I think you said it's like crying shame
Speaker 1: like what he said, but that's you know, a very
Speaker 1: boilerplate kind of like yeah, I'm against it. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I think because like you know, with immigrations,
Speaker 1: like what happened to our pathways to citizenship? Like what's
Speaker 1: going on there? It's just a lot of like, I
Speaker 1: don't they just don't want to talk too much about
Speaker 1: these issues to try and prevent, you know, from I
Speaker 1: guess their their point of view, like you know, losing
Speaker 1: independent supporters or whatever. When yeah, we always know tacking
Speaker 1: to the middle or to the right is not the solution.
Speaker 2: The dumbest right wing dickheads on earth is who they
Speaker 2: want vote from right right?
Speaker 1: But how do we reach them? Andrew, how do we
Speaker 1: get to them? It's so yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: It's the thing we know is that her campaign is
Speaker 4: being run by the same people who were running the
Speaker 4: Biden campaign. And the way that the Biden campaign operated
Speaker 4: was this like very defensive strategy of being like, no,
Speaker 4: he's not old. Actually you're old for saying that, And
Speaker 4: he's the best candidate that we could be running. And
Speaker 4: so they're going to be like careful and defensive, and
Speaker 4: it's I don't know, like there's probably because her pulling
Speaker 4: is ticking slightly upward, it's probably not a time when
Speaker 4: she's going to be like, yeah, I need to like
Speaker 4: clean house this fucking team sucks.
Speaker 1: Right, or come out with you like some sweeping position
Speaker 1: on immigration, which just fucking sucks because you're like, like,
Speaker 1: what are you what are you giving us? And I
Speaker 1: think again, they're like the fucking noodle, the noodle is
Speaker 1: the noodle, the needle is moving in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Just shut the fuck up, right, Just fucking keep shutting
Speaker 1: the fuck up. And you know, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know how sustainable that is as a strategy, but for
Speaker 1: the time being, it seems to be working.
Speaker 2: But it's also like, why are you fucking running for
Speaker 2: president if you can't do the easiest, lay up right thing, like,
Speaker 2: which I know is the most naive thing I could
Speaker 2: possibly But.
Speaker 1: Seriously, what the fuck are you doing? Right? Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? Then? Right? I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to see there isn't even really anything under the Harris
Speaker 1: Wall's campaign website under issues. I don't even see anything
Speaker 1: for immigration. Yeah, dude, I'm like, what's what? What is
Speaker 1: there for all these people who are also voters who
Speaker 1: have like immigration is a huge thing that intersects with
Speaker 1: their families and their livelihoods, and they're just like, you know,
Speaker 1: check check back later.
Speaker 2: Also they have reality on their side. It's it's just
Speaker 2: like this is good, this was good for Springfield.
Speaker 1: Oh here, secure our borders and fix our broken immigration system.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, secure our borders is just like just hair raising.
Speaker 2: And I think that's where you're like, yeah, well, christ
Speaker 2: I know that no Democrat has ever wanted my vote.
Speaker 2: But it is really weird how little they wanted this
Speaker 2: time and last time, I guess, and that and the but.
Speaker 4: It's like the other side so bad on it that,
Speaker 4: like their calculations, the other side is so bad on
Speaker 4: it that like your hand is kind of forced. So
Speaker 4: what do we have to say about immigration when like
Speaker 4: just look at what these assholes just said.
Speaker 1: Because even like when they're calculus and how they and
Speaker 1: the campaign even talks about immigration, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you know, as Attorney General Harris went
Speaker 1: after international drug gangs, human traffickers, gun smug it's like,
Speaker 1: what about fucking human beings? Like what like where where's
Speaker 1: that dimension about talking about immigration that is a little
Speaker 1: more human centric. But again, this is just sort of
Speaker 1: like the accepted rhetoric right now for both parties. So
Speaker 1: they're just they're fine with being like we gotta fix
Speaker 1: we gotta You're right, we do have to secure our border.
Speaker 1: Yeah god, oh, here's one. At the same time, at
Speaker 1: the same time, she knows that our immigration system is
Speaker 1: broken and needs comprehensive for reform that includes stronger border
Speaker 1: security and an earned pathway to citizenship. Okay, take take that.
Speaker 1: I sit corrected and earn this fucking backdraft. We back
Speaker 1: on the firefighter ship. Oh wait, no, that's saving private.
Speaker 4: Private yea, yeah, come on, man, do you know you're yeah?
Speaker 1: No, no, fucking hey, how old are you? Man? Are
Speaker 1: you you were forty? I thought you said you were forty? Man. Fu,
Speaker 1: I'm quoting it. I'm mistaking it in an older movie.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's backdraft, right, the even older irreletan. All right,
Speaker 1: let's let's do some good news. Yeah, oh oh fine,
Speaker 1: oh fine.
Speaker 4: Fatal drug overdoses have dropped across the US for the
Speaker 4: first time in decades. In the spring, it was reported
Speaker 4: that overdose deaths were down by nearly four percent, which
Speaker 4: is super newsworthy in and of itself, But now national
Speaker 4: surveys are showing a decline in drug deaths of roughly
Speaker 4: ten point six percent, which every year Prior to this,
Speaker 4: it's been going up a year every year, like by
Speaker 4: double digits. So that's pretty remarkable, Like it's a reversal
Speaker 4: of a very troubling trend. The data coming from the
Speaker 4: state level is even better, with some states reporting declines
Speaker 4: of twenty and thirty percent. People don't have like an
Speaker 4: exact explanation for why this is happening, but one possible
Speaker 4: explanation is the availability of or naloxone, which is the
Speaker 4: drug that can reverse opioid overdoses, and people have really
Speaker 4: hit the streets trying to get that out there in
Speaker 4: people's hands, distributed around so that people can people can
Speaker 4: take care of each other.
Speaker 1: If for a moment I thought maybe I thought maybe
Speaker 1: the despair deaths that we seem to see in this
Speaker 1: country was going down, it's more like, no, we just
Speaker 1: found no way, Like it's it's it can, that's work.
Speaker 1: Just despair is still here big time. Yeah, that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's great, it's wildly even. Just think it's like just
Speaker 1: the just having narcan more available to people is like
Speaker 1: having these kind like offsetting these like tragic overdoses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I could put in a small personal ish plug
Speaker 1: solidarity and snacks the uh the Mutual Aid group I
Speaker 1: do stuff with and skid row on Saturdays at noon.
Speaker 1: We uh yeah we we We've That's one of the
Speaker 1: things that I've had to really quickly learn, like how
Speaker 1: to tell a random person like basically what narcan does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like oh right, so yeah, just yeah, I mean education
Speaker 1: is yeah, it's really it's not super hard to use,
Speaker 1: but it is, like.
Speaker 2: You know, and it's also like sometimes you're just communicating.
Speaker 2: This is not a inhaler. This is different, right right,
Speaker 2: It's just like, yikes.
Speaker 4: Is it the nose? Is it the one that goes
Speaker 4: up the nose?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is there?
Speaker 2: Like I not to be cynical, but I kind of
Speaker 2: was curious whether there's any data on just the fentanyl news,
Speaker 2: like like the fentanyl marketing essentially really like took a
Speaker 2: dent out of coke, Like anyone who was on the
Speaker 2: fence about doing coke didn't do coke.
Speaker 1: In the last five years like that, Yeah for sure ventanyl?
Speaker 1: Yeah what do you mean like and what's what what
Speaker 1: do you mean the market?
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like I I just feel like the
Speaker 2: bad pr for fentanyl, I feel like really.
Speaker 4: Putting people dying immediately from doing.
Speaker 2: Casual users, well probably, I would ask. I would just
Speaker 2: imagine are the most likely to overdose because they don't
Speaker 2: know what the fuck they're doing? Not sure by the
Speaker 2: way I'm saying, that's like I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: I also don't know what you're doing. You're not THEO
Speaker 2: vonn right now? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, al be
Speaker 2: your own street light and that's good.
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, I'm just like, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: This just feels like it coincides with all the news
Speaker 2: headlines being if you do cocaine, you will oh like
Speaker 2: generally too.
Speaker 1: There are people right that like the fentanyl because then
Speaker 1: there's also just like the cops or like I looked
Speaker 1: at fentanyl and and then I was brought back by
Speaker 1: christ or Trump you pick. Yeah, like that I'm sure
Speaker 1: does definitely like yeah, if people are pumping the brakes,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you look.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an interesting way to think about it. Like
Speaker 4: if there's a if there's you know, corporate headquarters of cocaine,
Speaker 4: they're probably like, this is really bad for us, like
Speaker 4: you know, like they're having marketing meetings about how bad
Speaker 4: you know, people dying from just like random Sentinel intoxication.
Speaker 2: And then the one guy's like, maybe this is a
Speaker 2: good thing for us, Maybe we can spin this.
Speaker 1: Are always like what if it's like what is actually good?
Speaker 1: But if it's new coke.
Speaker 4: Crystal fence and al, yeah, all right, let's take a
Speaker 4: quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back.
Speaker 4: And so AI has like quieted down a little bit
Speaker 4: because we haven't done a story about how AI is
Speaker 4: bullshit for a while, So I think everything's just gone
Speaker 4: quiet a little bit. But no, New York Magazine just
Speaker 4: did a quick article that I thought made an interesting point,
Speaker 4: which is the way the meaning of the word or
Speaker 4: the phrase AI is changing, like has to be so
Speaker 4: bad again, like thinking of the corporate headquarters of a
Speaker 4: AI just sitting there, yeah and being like, holy shit,
Speaker 4: this is this couldn't have gone any worse for us.
Speaker 4: So I guess this part was news to me. It's
Speaker 4: still at the forefront of tech investment and excitement in
Speaker 4: Silicon Valley. Sam Altman is still just as confident and
Speaker 4: egomaniacal to the degree that somebody said, hey, when are
Speaker 4: we getting the new Voice features in a post on
Speaker 4: earlier last week, and he responded how about a couple
Speaker 4: weeks of gratitude for magic intelligence in the sky and
Speaker 4: then you can have more toys soon.
Speaker 1: Question Mark, get the fuck?
Speaker 4: So he's just like, yeah, why don't you watch the
Speaker 4: way you talk to your God? Yeah, this is the
Speaker 4: guy again who claimed he's so spooked by his own
Speaker 4: AI that he keeps a suicide capsule on him at
Speaker 4: all times, even though he presumably knows that his own
Speaker 4: AI is just a glorified by Yeah, he's he's good
Speaker 4: at marketing. One thing they can't really control, Like, obviously
Speaker 4: they can control how it's viewed by them and their peers,
Speaker 4: but the general public, like how the Internet at large
Speaker 4: uses and reacts to AI, seems to be a little
Speaker 4: bit more out of their control. And the point this
Speaker 4: article is making is just that there seems to be
Speaker 4: a drift happening that is similar to how the meaning
Speaker 4: of the word bot changed. Like at the advent of computing,
Speaker 4: the idea of creating a robot that could carry on
Speaker 4: a conversation and answer questions was seen as like cool
Speaker 4: and compelling and aspirational, and you know, a lot of
Speaker 4: sci fi writers talked and thought about that, and then
Speaker 4: it was shitty cheap versions of that were used to
Speaker 4: just clog the Internet with bullshit, and from basically two
Speaker 4: thousand and seven onward it's been used as shorthand for
Speaker 4: like a mindless, broken communication tool that like just us
Speaker 4: lifeless bullshit at your like, that's what a bot is.
Speaker 4: And you can also insult someone by being like calling
Speaker 4: them abot as like, you know, indistinguishable from the aforementioned
Speaker 4: just soulless bullshit spewing machine.
Speaker 1: But is that like a shift or is that like
Speaker 1: a regression from the marketing to the reality, because that
Speaker 1: the second, the thing they are now is what they
Speaker 1: always were.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's the other thing. So I just think
Speaker 4: that this is basically what is happening with AI, and
Speaker 4: AI also is fairly similar to what the bots were already. Right,
Speaker 4: it's like a broken autocomplete thing that can sometimes trick people,
Speaker 4: but for the most part, it's like a thing that
Speaker 4: can be fun to play with but is not able
Speaker 4: to do the things that people want it to. And write,
Speaker 4: a lot of these companies went and like jammed their
Speaker 4: product into a bunch of tools before it was ready
Speaker 4: to be used, and now it's essentially synonymous with things
Speaker 4: that suck like that is essentially how people refer to AI.
Speaker 1: At this point.
Speaker 4: It's just a word for a image that looks like
Speaker 4: shit or you know, an article that seems to be
Speaker 4: written by someone who would sleep. Yeah, was being revived
Speaker 4: by Narcan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like it definitely. It almost has like a
Speaker 1: more accelerated life cycle than like the term bot did,
Speaker 1: because I feel like a year and a half ago
Speaker 1: we were like, Yo, what the fuck is with AI?
Speaker 1: And now it's like and now you're like, this is
Speaker 1: some AI bullshit, you know what I mean, Like this
Speaker 1: is what we say like all the time. There's just
Speaker 1: you just see things that you're like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: just shitty AI, like a shitty AI image, And Yeah,
Speaker 1: to that point, the association with it is like now
Speaker 1: you're like critical, Like when you see someone using AI,
Speaker 1: you're like, that person's a fucking herd, Like yeah, fuck,
Speaker 1: this is stupid that yeah art that they're put like
Speaker 1: posting up, that's stupid, it's bullshit. And yeah, so definitely,
Speaker 1: and from that point of view, it's they're having a
Speaker 1: little bit of a problem with the with the branding
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't know how you come back from
Speaker 4: it right, like when because so like a couple of
Speaker 4: examples they use that they're like, we're not entirely sure
Speaker 4: this is AI at all. This might just be bad art.
Speaker 4: Like the cover of the Atlantic magazine has Donald Trump
Speaker 4: like driving a horse drawn carriage with an elephant in
Speaker 4: the back. It's like supposed to I think it like
Speaker 4: has some Dumbo vibes to it.
Speaker 1: He's captured the party, dude. It's yeah, lock up cage.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, that okay, got it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, that's and then it's like it's not that. There's
Speaker 4: also this tweet from someone named John Iceman who said,
Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with this obviously AI print out my local
Speaker 4: bodega hung up to say they don't have a bathroom,
Speaker 4: and it says it's like a political cartoon with a
Speaker 4: line of people walking up to a door and it
Speaker 4: says no restroom for anyone for I A for io one. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but like bad political cartoons and like misspellings have been
Speaker 4: around forever, Like there's nothing at all for me to
Speaker 4: indicate that the people who own this bodega, like we're
Speaker 4: using chat GPT to generate this bullshit image. It's just
Speaker 4: like you could probably find that with like a simple
Speaker 4: Google search. But we've just crossed a line where it
Speaker 4: is assumed that all bad art is AI generated even
Speaker 4: when it's not, and that I feel like that's just
Speaker 4: got to be a tough trend to bounce back from,
Speaker 4: like from a marketing perspective where it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: AI is just a word for something that sucks.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the impressive part is just like, well
Speaker 1: look what it did. It's like, the impressive part is
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay anyone for it to generate
Speaker 1: something you normally bad, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: like what so at that point, I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what they do that Suddenly people are like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, like we really we really had it
Speaker 1: wrong with AI.
Speaker 2: I think that's why, I mean, having skimmed like a
Speaker 2: little bit of the like computer science research of it,
Speaker 2: it's as far as I understand, it's just like it's
Speaker 2: it's at a high level of complexity now, but each
Speaker 2: additional like level of complexity starts to become like logarithmically
Speaker 2: more difficult. So we're already maxing out energy usage. We
Speaker 2: need to like just to maintain this shit that is bad.
Speaker 2: We had to like revamp the power grid and like
Speaker 2: figure out different more efficient computer chips than silicon like.
Speaker 1: We would have.
Speaker 2: Like it's just like the shit that has to happen
Speaker 2: for this to be good is not. It's it's like
Speaker 2: fundamentally rethinking computing energy right and.
Speaker 4: By the infrastructure of human society.
Speaker 2: If you solved those problems, even without this you know,
Speaker 2: fake ass ai like, life would be immeasurably better because
Speaker 2: we've made batteries that were a thousand times more like
Speaker 2: like efficient, or like chips that are like you know,
Speaker 2: Moore's law violatingly more like cheap, and computations per second.
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, all the shit otherwise that didn't
Speaker 2: and maybe can't happen hasn't happened yet, so none of
Speaker 2: this is gonna work.
Speaker 1: Right. The irony is like people who have been you know,
Speaker 1: advocates for green energy are saying, it's not that the
Speaker 1: green energy isn't available or the technology is not there.
Speaker 1: We don't have a fucking transmission grid to properly and
Speaker 1: efficiently move all of this green energy we can generate.
Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest fucking hang ups. And the
Speaker 1: irony would be like, yeah, we're modernizing the grid for
Speaker 1: fucking AI. Sure, it's like wait, what the fuck yeah, because.
Speaker 4: Like this is and this is the thing you're seeing
Speaker 4: in business literature and like Wall Street literature right now,
Speaker 4: is there's this built in assumption like we need to
Speaker 4: rebuild everything, like we need this to completely rethink like
Speaker 4: how much electricity we have access to and how much
Speaker 4: electricity we're using. Like that's what Trump was trying to
Speaker 4: talk about in that interview with Elon Musk when he
Speaker 4: was like nuclear power very dangerous, and then Elon Musk
Speaker 4: was like, we actually need nuclear power for like AI
Speaker 4: to continue to like be powered. And so I think
Speaker 4: there's going to be a moment or maybe not a moment,
Speaker 4: but like I think that's what we're going to be facing,
Speaker 4: is like they are going to be just trying to
Speaker 4: build in this assumption like well, we need to like
Speaker 4: continue developing AI, so therefore fuck climate like that. It
Speaker 4: really does seem like a lot of the AI stuff
Speaker 4: has coincided with the assumption changing from well we're gonna
Speaker 4: have to do something about climate.
Speaker 2: To maybe not they will make anything, to the thing
Speaker 2: with all these like tech people about like climate, like
Speaker 2: because there are certain like AI might solve climate change
Speaker 2: for us, and it's like that might be a compelling.
Speaker 1: Argument, but it's also, oh, like a version where we
Speaker 1: know what we have to stop doing. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: it might come up with it easier. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We also haven't ever implemented the other shit, like using
Speaker 2: less fossil fuels, Like we've never done that. So they
Speaker 2: will do anything and promise any technology to avoid doing
Speaker 2: the thing that is proven to work. It's just low
Speaker 2: tech and would hurt the oil industry. It's like it's
Speaker 2: so pathetic, all these like tech I just hate them
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they like destroy the globe to power AI
Speaker 4: to get an answer to for an answer to the
Speaker 4: question of how to fix climate change, and then the
Speaker 4: answer is like stop using fossil fuel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're they're like forcing us into a hail
Speaker 2: Mary that is so unnecessary.
Speaker 1: Yeah for humanity.
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, well we didn't have to do any
Speaker 2: of this, but I guess it's too late to not.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I may be the unintended consequence is if we can
Speaker 2: fucking get a good power grid and like I don't know,
Speaker 2: solar or you know, nuclear that works. Nuclear does work.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's truly it's like the transmission grid.
Speaker 1: Like it's not like we don't have vast swaths of
Speaker 1: land that are getting absolutely cooked by the sun every
Speaker 1: fucking day, like with maybe like anomalist couple of days
Speaker 1: where it isn't, but like with the right storage and
Speaker 1: transmission stuff, like you can fucking power such a significant
Speaker 1: amount of the country with a you know, comparatively small
Speaker 1: amount of land. But again, it's just it that's that
Speaker 1: is too disruptive to like this sort of fossil fuel
Speaker 1: status quo that we're in. It's just like, well, maybe
Speaker 1: fucking AI will can invent a thing that will be
Speaker 1: a shield for our earth.
Speaker 2: That's like, yeah, Ai, AI to your AI, can you
Speaker 2: how can we find a way to like not totally
Speaker 2: cook the planet while not losing any value for the
Speaker 2: worst for shireholders?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Or it would be like I remember like trying
Speaker 1: to fucking like like like cheat on a test or
Speaker 1: some shit, and I will put all this thought into
Speaker 1: being like yo, if I could just steal this from
Speaker 1: the teacher, and then if you distract them and you
Speaker 1: fake having a medical event while their head is turned
Speaker 1: I can take a fucking low key picture like the
Speaker 1: end of Oceans eleven with you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and of your friends like walking, like carrying briefcases,
Speaker 4: drop it, like handing in to each other without stopping
Speaker 4: or looking at each other.
Speaker 1: Right exactly. Like it's like, what if you just had
Speaker 1: the chapter of the book. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm a good student, You're incredibly smart, Miles.
Speaker 1: Rather, I'm trying to I think I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that, and I know that's the answer. But what
Speaker 1: if my friend faked an epileptic seizure.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, no, but you just like put a little
Speaker 4: alca celter in his mouth.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, it's too obvious. Too obvious, dude. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: the tech bros are doing this but forcing us to
Speaker 1: be in on their ski. Yeah exactly right.
Speaker 2: This is like if you held the rest of your
Speaker 2: classic gunpoint is like, no, we're all doing this.
Speaker 1: They shut the fuck up. I don't care if you can,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care if you read Nectar
Speaker 1: in the Sieve, all right, but I ain't reading it.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it's uh. I had something to say a
Speaker 4: minute left my brain, but it's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you woman ask a what was Jack about to say?
Speaker 4: All right, well those are some of the stories that
Speaker 4: are happening today. Andrew T. What a pleasure having you
Speaker 4: as always? Where can people find you? Follow you all
Speaker 4: that good stuff?
Speaker 1: I am yeah? Podcast? You know?
Speaker 2: Is this racist?
Speaker 1: Andrew T last n is FELTI that's it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Listen, we got we got bonus podcasts at suboptimal pods
Speaker 2: dot com. I've been doing a lot more gambling than
Speaker 2: I should do on a podcast.
Speaker 1: But wait, what do you mean like just taking weird
Speaker 1: bets on?
Speaker 2: Just know we're doing a bonus podcast with me versus
Speaker 2: Jessica Goo called The Gambler, where she was of the
Speaker 2: impression that I don't want to misquote her, but I
Speaker 2: am going to that poker was entirely a game of chance,
Speaker 2: and I was like, it's not. So we're doing a
Speaker 2: head to head one hundred dollars bankroll challenge. I'm playing
Speaker 2: quarter poker at unmentioned site. Maybe I'm not in the
Speaker 2: state of California, it doesn't matter. And she is playing
Speaker 2: ratcher scratch off tickets and we're seeing who's gonna win
Speaker 2: in this head to head gambling challenge.
Speaker 1: So we're gambling on top of gambling. Okay, gamble and
Speaker 1: gamble on gamble. I'm going it's going well. Sounds fun.
Speaker 4: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I watched a movie called Lady Snowblood. It
Speaker 2: was like a revival at the Alamo here in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: and it's sort of like it was very clear people
Speaker 2: had said it was sort of one of the like
Speaker 2: I guess, like it's a Japanese feudal japan story that
Speaker 2: was sort of one of the inspirations for kill Bill,
Speaker 2: and it's a lot of like very hilarious, Like I
Speaker 2: guess it's probably like you know, sixties seventies Japanese special effects,
Speaker 2: most importantly the like single slash with a sword and
Speaker 2: just like a fire hose of blood. Oh from like yeah,
Speaker 2: I had honestly, I guess I don't know that like
Speaker 2: enough about Japanese cinema, but it was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: assume that was like an anime thing and seeing.
Speaker 1: It, like no, it's from Sun Diital and that's it.
Speaker 1: It was a mechanical failure. Yeah, okay, yeah, like it
Speaker 1: was supposed to do a little bit, but that shit
Speaker 1: just went And then Grosawa was like keep that shit ye,
Speaker 1: and then so much A thousands ships. Yeah anyway, yeah,
Speaker 1: lady Solba, and I don't know where you can see it,
Speaker 1: probably find it on streaming somewhere. It was amazing. That
Speaker 1: sounds good.
Speaker 4: Miles, Where can people find you as their work media
Speaker 4: you've been enjoying.
Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram and the like at
Speaker 1: Miles of Gray, Find Jack and I on the basketball
Speaker 1: podcast Miles with Jack. I'm at Boosties. You can find
Speaker 1: me talking ninety day Fiance on four twenty Day Fiance.
Speaker 1: I have a few First of all, did you see
Speaker 1: that clip that was going around of like the Celebrity
Speaker 1: Jeopardy when Wenona Ryder was York? It was like all
Speaker 1: over Twitter the other night.
Speaker 4: I did. I saw it, but I didn't stop to watch.
Speaker 1: I I don't know how the This is like in
Speaker 1: my top three of like Byork anythings, uh and I
Speaker 1: love Byork? This is it's a therapist. Winona Writer was
Speaker 1: as Byork isn't real, she can't hurt you, and then
Speaker 1: it says Winona Writer is Byork. I'm just gonna play
Speaker 1: a quick piece of this because this is fantastic acting
Speaker 1: from Winona Writer. Sometimes when I look at my veins
Speaker 1: and my hands, there were these two snakes. Laugh. She
Speaker 1: goes a minute long. Her commitment is so fucking next level,
Speaker 1: and that's what it takes to do a proper byork impersonation.
Speaker 1: Another one is from at Elite Underscore GZ tweeted you
Speaker 1: ever see a tweet so fire it breaks the language barrier?
Speaker 1: And it's a quote tweet from at Franas Magoria that said,
Speaker 1: la mayonessa es la re verb delo sandwiches And I'm like, yo, yep, yep,
Speaker 1: mm hmmm mm hmmm mm hmmm. That's right. Facts I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly as it is the reb of
Speaker 1: this unfortunately.
Speaker 4: All right, you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien, Uh,
Speaker 4: what are some tweets I've been enjoying. I've just been
Speaker 4: enjoying a lot of the a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 4: dealing with the news about Adrian wojn Houski, the woj
Speaker 4: from ESPN leaving ESPN to go be the general manager
Speaker 4: of Saint Bonaventure's basketball program. And yeah, I don't, I
Speaker 4: don't know what to do with that information. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean suggest maybe like ESPN should treat their on air
Speaker 4: people better. I don't have any reason to suspect that's
Speaker 4: what it is, but a national icon. And he just
Speaker 4: left to be the general manager of Saint Bonaventures. I
Speaker 4: mean maybe it's just like his job. His job's got
Speaker 4: to be hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but the Wojh bomb is such a vital
Speaker 1: part of the NBA Twitter information sphere that shams. It's
Speaker 1: up to you now.
Speaker 4: Craigary Smith tweeted Adrian Wolje and our Houski got woken
Speaker 4: up in the middle of the night to be told
Speaker 4: Isaac o'corrow was signing a three year, thirty eight million
Speaker 4: dollar deal to return to the Caves and immediately re
Speaker 4: evaluated his life because that was his last world bomb
Speaker 4: was like a very unimportant NBA deal. And then I
Speaker 4: also like this from Big Honk and Kaboos who wrote
Speaker 4: take me down to the Roku City where the grass
Speaker 4: is purple and everything is also purple. You can find
Speaker 4: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brian. You can find
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Speaker 4: episodes and our footnote. We'll link off to the information
Speaker 4: that we talked about in today's episode, as well as
Speaker 4: a song that we think you might enjoy.
Speaker 1: Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I you know a lot of people who heard Andre
Speaker 1: three thousand's flute album were like, where's the beat? Like
Speaker 1: how do I vibe with this? And it was very
Speaker 1: avant garde. Well, you know, very very very iconic. Angelino
Speaker 1: and sax player Kumasi Washington has there's actually an Andre
Speaker 1: three thousand feature on his album that came out earlier
Speaker 1: this year, and I was listening to it. It's called
Speaker 1: dream State. So if you want a little bit of
Speaker 1: Andre three thousand on a jazz or track, you can
Speaker 1: get that on this Kamasi Washington track called dream State,
Speaker 1: So enjoy that a bit of nice jazz. It's like
Speaker 1: a long track too, so it's nice to just put
Speaker 1: on while you're doing something. So yeah, dream State by
Speaker 1: Kumasi Washington featuring Andre three thousand.
Speaker 4: Oh right, We will link off to that in the
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