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Yeah, 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: we're gonna let the door back door open they'll sneak 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: in grab some food. 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 4: Sierra Clark will be joining. 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: Us, the host of the sec TE podcast, So Sierra 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: Clark will be joining us in about twenty eight minutes. 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: So a lot to get to here in our number two, 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: rob G, we got the players involved in this, right, 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: Rosier and Jones. 29 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 5: Right. 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: Okay, so we got those, but I think the bigger 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: one was Chauncey Billups. 32 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: Today, right. I mean that was the. 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: Current NBA coach who coached the night before's and handcuffs 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: and the next morning, and the allegations are really bad 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: about him, rob G. 36 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, not just the current NBA coach, because I you know, 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 6: some people don't even know he coached the Cheryl Blazers. 38 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 6: They know him as mister big shot NBA champion Detroiteam 39 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 6: Chauncys Pillups Phillips. Chauncey Billups easily the biggest name associated 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 6: with all of this stuff. And let's get a quick 41 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 6: refresher course on what's being alleged here involving Chauncey Billups. 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 6: Number one, the one that he is listed in by name, 43 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 6: involves an alleged poker scheme where they were rigging games 44 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 6: with shuffle machines X ray glasses of mark cards as 45 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 6: a way to get millions of dollars from what people 46 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 6: they do. 47 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: We'p both shaking our heads, right, I mean. 48 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 5: It sounds like some Ocean thirteen stuff. 49 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 4: Sounded like a movie script. 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 6: And if you're on Twitter and you saw what these 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 6: X ray marked cards things, you're like, it can't be 52 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 6: that easy. Apparently it was. So that's number one. Number 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 6: two in this is one that people have inferred and 54 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 6: figured out on their own. In the Terry rose Year indictment, 55 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 6: Billups is not listed by name, but there is a 56 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 6: person described in the indictment that is a former professional 57 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 6: player who played from ninety seven to two thousand and fourteen. 58 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 4: What would that be right? 59 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 6: And that he is a current NBA coach, that he 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 6: is currently residing in Oregon, and uh, you know, we'll 61 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 6: see who that is at a later. 62 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Exactly what is Jeopardy mustpost say? Who is Shazi Billips? 63 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 5: Exactly? And y'all clues. 64 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 6: In that portion of the Terry Roseier allegations, it mentions 65 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 6: a person in Oregon who was relaying information to betters 66 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 6: that his team was tanking, that X, Y and Z 67 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 6: players would not be playing later this week, so if 68 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 6: you wanted to bet against us, now will be the 69 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 6: time to do it. This was all, of course before 70 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 6: then your reports from a public so this was insider information. 71 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: Unbelievable, unbelievable, and I gotta say this, Yeah, that is 72 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: just damaging, all of it, and even the bilking of 73 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: people with the phony poker games and rigged and all that. 74 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: If all of this is true, I don't know how 75 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: you come back from this from the standpoint of being 76 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: involved in basketball, the way people feel about you despite 77 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: what you did on the field, you know what I mean. 78 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: And he earned all of that. He was a hell 79 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: of a player. I covered all that with the pistols. 80 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: He was tremendous. I mean, the MVP of the finals. 81 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: They beat Shaq and Kobe and for future Hall of 82 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: famers call him alone, Gary Payton. I mean all of that. 83 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: And in twenty twenty four, this past a lot, right, 84 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: this past year, right, yeah, he was inducted into the 85 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: Basketball Hall of Fame in Springfield, Massachusetts. Kelvin, I don't 86 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: know how you could do anything. And obviously we say 87 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: if convicted, so let's. 88 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 4: Leave that there. 89 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: These are all allegations. No one's saying he's guilty and 90 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: should be thrown under the jail any of that. 91 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: But he would have. 92 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: To come out of the Hall of Fame if these 93 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: allegations are proved or he's convicted of these allegations. I 94 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: don't know if any other way how he could be 95 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: involved or how you could honor him in this situation. 96 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 5: That pains me to say. 97 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: You mentioned that two thousand and three when he got there, 98 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: was it two that ten year runner give or take 99 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: he had. I was there, like you said, I used 100 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: to work at WDFN, this station. There I was, you know, 101 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: just getting into my career and. 102 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 5: I was there a games. 103 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going in the game, setting up the you know, 104 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: the booth for our radio got the Rod Parker and 105 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: Kelvin Washington in the future. You know, I can just 106 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: sit there and learn and watch. And I got to 107 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: be around the game and the team and dude that 108 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: that that run meant so much to me, and he 109 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: became one of my all time favorite players, as you mentioned, 110 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: because he was great, he made all the big shots. 111 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: That team was so fun and me same was real 112 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: because he made big shot without a doubt, and he 113 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: meant so much to the City and that team. You 114 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: were there, so it paid me when I saw that 115 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: this morning anchoring the news my phone and it sees 116 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: his face, of all the faces, just didn't feel like 117 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: that would be the face you would see. 118 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 5: No, I'll be honest, you were there. There's nothing. 119 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: You didn't hear anything about chounces except good dude, this that, 120 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: and again this is all alleged. 121 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 5: We don't know. 122 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: We hope not, but as things are right now, to answer, 123 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: to go back to the point of the conversation, you 124 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: absolutely have to take somebody out the Hall of Fame 125 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: because if this were just rigged poker games, as bad 126 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: as that is, that's separate from the NBA. That is 127 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: why we have federal investigators, criminal investigators, state you know investigators, 128 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: all these different type of investigators and police officers who 129 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: can handle that. That is separate from the NBA, especially 130 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: considered you know, he's no longer a player, obviously he's 131 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: a coach. 132 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 5: But you could say that's nothing to do with us, because. 133 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: People get pulled over, people have other domestic violence, people 134 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: have substance abuse that people have personal live issues. 135 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: I agree to a certain extent, I don't think you 136 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: could look at him the same way of cheating people 137 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: out of money, knowing that the games were rigged. 138 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: And I know, I. 139 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying is, I know, I. 140 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: Don't think that's pull you out to pull you out 141 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: that could have been kept you from getting in. 142 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna use that as pull you out. I'm 143 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: pulling you out. 144 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: I don't know. 145 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel good about Chauncey Billups 146 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: at all if I know that he was a part 147 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 3: of the mob and the mafia and they had rig games. 148 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: To build people out of money. I'm just being I'm. 149 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 5: No, no, I get your morale. I'm with you. 150 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is the NBA I have to go, like, 151 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: where do I draw the line. That's nothing to do 152 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: with me, meaning the entity. 153 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 5: Of the NBA. 154 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: But according to that all right, So uh no, I 155 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: don't want to get into hypotheticals, but somebody could do. 156 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 3: But there's something heinous, and because it wasn't done during 157 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: because of basketball, you still would be okay with it. 158 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 4: He should stay. 159 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is because if he presents a challenge 160 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: to where I draw the line, like someone who's in 161 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame right now, I only like you said, 162 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: I only want to use a name player X is 163 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. 164 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 5: Come to find out. 165 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: He beat his wife pretty bad and had come to 166 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: find out does it regularly? 167 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: Do you go and then now pull him out? 168 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: You get what I mean that it becomes a slippery 169 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: slope when someone does something criminal and where do you 170 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: pull The reason why I would pull I would pull 171 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: him out is because this had something to do with 172 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: the NBA if this what is alleged actually happened, because 173 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: you are telling guys, hey, I ain't playing him to night. 174 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: Hey we're tanking. Hey, you might want to put some 175 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: money on us. We're gonna look bad tonight. Now, that 176 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: directly affects the integrity of the game, the trust of 177 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: the gang, just as directing my business and our fans 178 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: that I'm pulling you out. 179 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: But there's also but also in contracts as a professional athlete, 180 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: there are moral clauses in there that have nothing to 181 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: do with basketball. Moral clauses on how That's why I 182 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: fire you, on how you on how you hand represent yourself. 183 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 5: Yes, and I will admire you for that. Rob, I'm 184 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 5: with you. 185 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: I will say in your contract states this you did 186 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: X you're fired again, pulling you out of the Hall 187 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: of Fame because a very slippery slope. 188 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: If it becomes to me, it's not it's not slippery 189 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: slope if you're convicted of this and you look at 190 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: where the because it's a big scope and I get it. 191 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 4: You know there's there's two different charges. 192 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 5: Here, right Because you're saying saying. 193 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: That you would be cool with Chauncey if he just 194 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: built people out of millions of dollars with the mafia. 195 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: You're saying you're cool with that. Interesting not me. I'm 196 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: saying no, No, I'm asking you. 197 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 5: You're not absolutely not cool, But I'm no, I think 198 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 5: he should. 199 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: But you're saying you wouldn't take him out of the 200 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame if it was just that charge, is correct? 201 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: Ken, If I'm Commissioner Washing, I disagree because what I'm saying, 202 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: I would be disappointed. I wouldn't book him for events 203 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. But it becomes a slippery slope. 204 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: Rob This person beat his wife, this person was selling dope, 205 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: This person frauded people out of money because he was 206 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: with Enron, you know what I mean. He was with 207 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: Nron and he frauded people. People, somebody killed themselves because 208 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: they lost all their savings, and like, where do I 209 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: draw the line when it becomes things that are away 210 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: from the game, Because if people. 211 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 3: Draw the line as the behavior where you do not 212 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: hold yourself to a certain standard, so you're gonna. 213 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 5: Go a lot of well, I'm not mad at you. 214 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: I hear that I would pull people out if they're convicted, 215 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: like like they couldn't pull O. J. Simpton because he 216 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: was acquitted. Whether you agree or not, he was acquitted, Okay. 217 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 5: Said he was found guilty of the civils. You get 218 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. 219 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: So it becomes But that's why I'm saying, I wouldn't 220 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: want to have to become the judge, jury, and the 221 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: executioner on every criminal thing that someone's convicted, because I 222 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: have thousands of people in my Hall of Fame, which 223 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: you picked the league, and every year someone du y 224 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: car crash killed somebody. 225 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 5: This person, I just. 226 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 4: Don't know that. 227 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: I mean you say that, but I don't know if 228 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 3: it's that many people that you're making the case that 229 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: they have all these other skeletons and they're still in 230 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: the fame. I'm just saying I would have to You 231 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: would have to give me some examples, because I'm not 232 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: saying that there's nobody and I'm not. I'm talking about 233 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: like they're there, Uh just got into the Hall of 234 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 3: Fame or whatever they were in the Hall of Fame. 235 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: There were a lot and they do something where they 236 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: get arrested. As as an NBA coach, you're you're you 237 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: just coached the game the night before, get it? You 238 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: get you get arrested. 239 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Lawrence Taylor, you and I both agree. 240 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: You could make a case he's the greatest football not 241 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: just defensively period. Brother had a while pass ain't nobody, 242 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: ain't no secrets. Something comes up? Now he back out 243 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: on the street, Michael Irvin, wild pass. Things happen? Do 244 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: I pull him out? Because of the White House? You remember 245 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: the White House is something you know he done went 246 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: back to the White House. 247 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 5: Rob Well. 248 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: You know again this is all hypothetical, just using example 249 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: to rob Do I then pull them out? 250 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying? Like it it becomes difficult. 251 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: I think you have to look at the offense. What's happened. Uh, 252 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: if you're convicted of a crime, if you're sent to prison, 253 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: I think you have every right if it's he said, 254 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: she said, and it's resolved and there's no criminal, you know, 255 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: time or whatever, Kelvin, then you have a better argument. 256 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 3: You mean to tell me in handcuffs that Chauncey billups 257 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: coach one night and the next night he was in handcuffs, 258 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: and now he gets convicted. We're just talking about hypothetical, right, 259 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: And you still think that him being in the Hall 260 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: of Fame is cool. 261 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 5: I don't know if that's cool anymore. I'm not cool 262 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 5: and I'm not happy. 263 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: But I don't want to just start a slippery slope 264 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: where again I'm now becoming judging every single thing. 265 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 5: I'd rather that's what That's what you do. 266 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 4: When you put people in the Hall of Fame, you judge. 267 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: But I've already put them in. You judge them so 268 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: but right, But now, Rob, I judge you to get in. 269 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: Now I'm judging you. You got in at twenty five, 270 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: thirty five forty five. Now I'm judging for the next 271 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: thirty five, forty five fifty. 272 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 5: You know, the whole life. 273 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you are yes, you are yes. 274 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: Because if somebody, somebody did a somebody did a heinous crime, Kelvin, 275 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: you wouldn't have this argument. You wouldn't and I could 276 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: give you a horror example, and you wouldn't have this feeling. 277 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 3: You wouldn't be like, oh, well, well we put him 278 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: in and I know he just did this and he's 279 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: going to jail for for thirty years and it was 280 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 3: really an awful thing that happened, but we already put 281 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: him in. 282 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: Really really, I'm just I'm because now it's too subjective. 283 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 5: What's the line you say this? Someone else says that you. 284 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: Say this, Well, I say, if you got a duy 285 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: and you hit somebody, that should be it becomes too subjective. 286 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: What is the line that you would then draw? He 287 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: beat his wife? Well, I mean, I guess it's not 288 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: a big deal. It was only one time. Well, other 289 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: people like, oh that's domestic vit you get what I'm saying. 290 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 5: This man killed dogs? 291 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: No, well it's just dogs that were he even was 292 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: he put in jail and conyess it dogs? 293 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: No, I'm talking about it. 294 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 5: I'm saying. If I'm saying if I was, that it has. 295 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: To be to me of that ilk like a conviction 296 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,239 Speaker 4: that would just say that became. 297 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: Allegation and you can become convicted, and there's a li 298 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: a lot of things that will become slippery slopes if 299 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: you open that can of worms. 300 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 5: To the other side of that. 301 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: With Chauncey, if it is alleged that he was, you know, 302 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: telling people out the games and don't bet. Put the 303 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: bet here, don't I'm not playing him. We're taking here 304 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: then now I'm pulling you. 305 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: Out eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven 306 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. If the 307 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: allegations are true, should Chauncey Billups be removed from the 308 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. We'll continue that conversation next with you. 309 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: This will be interesting to hear from people. I really 310 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: want to hear where they are on this. 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And I think Rob 352 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: and I, I think only you and I Rob could 353 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: find a way to take what we're discussing, that this 354 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: whole NBA and the gambling and all that, and still 355 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: find a way to make it the Eye Couple version 356 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: of it, where somehow we made it. I believe Chauncey 357 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: billups the two parter. If it's just the running the 358 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: poker games and all that and all that bad stuff, 359 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: that's criminal, that's for the police and FBI to handle. 360 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: I think you stay in the Hall of fame if 361 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: it's player involvement, I'm not playing him and this guy 362 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: we're taking that pulls you out of the Hall of Fame. 363 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 5: You feel he's out either way. 364 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: I just think that there's an integrity thing on both sides, 365 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: Like like it's hard to prop up somebody who did 366 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 3: either one of those things, like like the one you're 367 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: poo pooing about the mob and ripping off. 368 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 4: What I'm saying. 369 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 5: I'm saying is go to prison. That is not the 370 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 5: that's not the hard understand. 371 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 3: But but to me that that that is that's awful 372 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 3: to me to do that to somebody and then to prison. 373 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: Josh in Texas, You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio. 374 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: What's up, Josh? Is this seven? Nothing already? 375 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 5: Yes? 376 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 4: The vikings on was that the first pass of the game? 377 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 5: Oh my god, was it? 378 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: No, not the first but. 379 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: It was an interception, uh by the Vikings Okay, go ahead, Gosh, Josh. 380 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 8: So I would have to say, I think. 381 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: Your phone is under I don't know what what Josh, 382 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: we can't hear you. 383 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 9: Okay, ahead, Okay, perfect, Sorry about that. 384 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: I was saying. 385 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 8: I agree with Kelvin. 386 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 9: I think that since it's not NBA related, Persave, that 387 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 9: you can keep him in the Hall of Fame. 388 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 8: And if it was Indian related, then I think I 389 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 8: would have no problem with him being removed from the. 390 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. 391 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 9: And I'm a kick from Fort Michigan, you know, Charlson 392 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 9: billis is like one of my heroes. 393 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: Okay, it sounds like a one O was fine. That's 394 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: just fine, all right, appreciate it. 395 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 3: Jay in Georgia, you're in the odd couple of Fox 396 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: Sports Radio. 397 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 4: What's up, Jake? 398 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 6: What going on? 399 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: Guys? 400 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 5: How a y'all doing? Yeah? 401 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 9: First of all towns of businesses of corderline, Hall of 402 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 9: Famer anyway, so it becomes the goes. I don't mean 403 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 9: nobody else missed it, but I think in this instant 404 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 9: you got to kick him out of the Hall of 405 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 9: Fame because he's messing up there. Take of the game, Rob, 406 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 9: Like you said, out of time, you walk in any 407 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 9: MLB club house, he got a big sign to say 408 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 9: no gambling, no bit in this that. 409 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 8: The third So if he did that, he got no 410 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 8: choice but to go. 411 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 9: But the problem is you turned on the TV. It 412 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 9: is working for the NBA on ESPN oh presented by 413 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 9: Draft Well both ways. 414 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: Hey, that's why at the start of the show, Jay, 415 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard it, but that's why 416 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 3: I blame the commissioner in the league for making gambling 417 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 3: normalized and where people if you ride up to the 418 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: arena there it is right. 419 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 5: Kelvin it's everywhere. 420 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: It's right there, everywhere the star star Lebron is talking 421 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: about draft Kings. 422 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 5: I mean, it's everywhere. 423 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: Sean in Sacramento. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. 424 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 3: What's up, Sean. 425 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll go from another brother cousin, kill me and 426 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 8: my brother behind the board, whatever I see real quick, man. 427 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 8: They didn't take oj out the Hall of Fame. They 428 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 8: got a bunch of questionable dudes in the Baseball Hall 429 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 8: of Fame. I just don't think you could put a 430 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 8: guy in to Kelvin's point and then take him out 431 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 8: after the fact, unless it's something extremely glaring, like he 432 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 8: was actually. 433 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: Betting on the game. 434 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 8: And per the investigative reporter on the Dan Patrick Show 435 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 8: this morning, all the allegations s them prior to him 436 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 8: become a coach, becoming a coach for the Portland Trailblazers, 437 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 8: and it really no, no, no. 438 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: No, that's not what's in the rob g Reddit and 439 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: and that was right from March twenty three. He was 440 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: a coach. 441 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, But my other point is. 442 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 4: That that's huge. That's huge. 443 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 5: That's huge. 444 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 8: That that is huge. 445 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: That is and that's the difference to me, that's different 446 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: than the than the poker game. 447 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 8: To me, right, And we gotta we gotta figure out 448 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 8: what's what's what and see what actually happens with him. 449 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 8: But if he is charged with something that happens to 450 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 8: the game, I agree with pulling him out. But if 451 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 8: it's just a poker game, and what I think is 452 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 8: happening was he was baiting X players, current players to 453 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 8: join those poker games on behalf of the mob and 454 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 8: raking in millions for them. 455 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 4: He was using the NBA to build people. 456 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: Why don't you guys see that it was the idea 457 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 3: of playing with a former NBA player. He used his 458 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: status as a player to get people to play in 459 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: these poker games for thousands of thousands. 460 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 4: Of dollars kelvin so that he could build them. 461 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: He wasn't Chauncey Billups nobody, a regular citizen. 462 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 4: He used his status and. 463 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: His name to glore unsuspecting people and victims. 464 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 4: That's why it's heinous, and I'm why that's my thing. 465 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 5: Though. 466 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: You can't un bee Chauncey Billups no meaning he's Chauncey Billups. 467 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 5: If he goes and gets a dui. 468 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: That's what the first time, they're gonna say, no, they're 469 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: gonna say NBA Hall of Famer killed woman. 470 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 5: In a dui incident. 471 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: No, us he used his name and the idea that 472 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 4: he played in the league to lore people that that's 473 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 4: that's the part that I don't think. 474 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 5: I hear you, I hear you. We just disagree, we disagree, 475 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 5: all right. 476 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: We got college kids coming out with Cierra Clark, host 477 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: of the Sect podcast. In just a second, right now, 478 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: Mantiblanos is gonna get you set on twitch trending. 479 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 480 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 481 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 482 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 2: listen live. It's time for the college kids here on 483 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: the odd cool a look at this week's college football 484 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: through the eyes of the young and inexperience. 485 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 5: They swear they know college ball takes the A. 486 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, fundamentals are gonna show up. 487 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 5: Are there? 488 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 2: Take sophomore or graduation worth it? Robin Calvin rug aside, 489 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: bring them on, that's. 490 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 6: Right as college kids here on the Acaba Fox Sports 491 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 6: rados every week talk a little college football. This week 492 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 6: it's the SEC with none other than the host of 493 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 6: the SECT podcast, Sierra Clarks Here, how are you hello? 494 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 10: Thank you guys for having me. 495 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 5: Yes, Sierah, how are you. 496 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 3: Let's go good good. 497 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 6: All right, Sierra's got three very hot takes related mostly 498 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 6: to SEC football, So let's get to it. Take number one. 499 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 6: Let's get started here, Sierra. As you guys know some 500 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 6: big firings around college football, including Florida head coach Billy Napier. 501 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 6: That was a tough scene there for the people in Gainesville, 502 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 6: and Sierra is one of those people who's like, you 503 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 6: know what, guys, let's be honest, pulling the trigger too 504 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 6: early when it comes to firing coaches. Sierra tell us, why, well, 505 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 6: the touch. 506 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 10: On the point you made about Florida. I do think 507 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 10: that firing was justified. It was a long time coming. 508 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 10: But on the other side of the spectrum I really 509 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 10: met was the James Franklin situation at Penn State when 510 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 10: he was fired. He was there a really long time, 511 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 10: but he just had two really bad games this year 512 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 10: with his quarterback being hurt and losing to Ecla and 513 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 10: losing to Northwestern. But the thing is they mostly fired 514 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 10: him because he could not win the big games. The 515 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 10: only beat Ohio State once during his career. So my 516 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 10: thing is, Okay, you let him go, who are you 517 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 10: going to replace him with? And it's just like a round, 518 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 10: It's a merry go round of misery. That seems what 519 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 10: Auburn has now they can't seem to find the right guy. 520 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 10: So just like, Okay, one bad year isn't the end of. 521 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 4: The world, Sierra, you are not graduating college? 522 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 9: Back to school? 523 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, yeah, that back well, the whole notion that 524 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 3: you could be lousy at your job and you don't 525 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 3: know who else to will who will you hire? That 526 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: shouldn't be reason you keep your job. At some point 527 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 3: you need to win. If not, we'll get somebody else. 528 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: That's all I mean you. James Franklin was there for years. 529 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 5: How long was he coach? 530 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 4: Ten years at Penn State? 531 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 5: Years? 532 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 3: Twelve years? I'm sorry I short changed him. He was 533 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 3: there plenty of times. His record was awful, Sierra, and 534 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: they had to move on. 535 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 4: Because he couldn't win the big games. 536 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 5: Seierra, this is your most sophomore take all the time. 537 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 5: This was the easy one. Listen, I'm with you. 538 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: If this would have been a bad year, you can't 539 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: never lose it beat Michigan or Ohio State. Right, you can't. 540 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: You can't always lose it in you can't be one 541 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: in twenty one against top ten teams under my watch? 542 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 5: What are we doing here? Absolutely not. 543 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: They gave him all the chances, all the resources off too. 544 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: I got a two hundred million dollar new place on building. 545 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: I needed to have some bigger wins, some college football 546 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: wins up in here. It was time to go. He'll 547 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: get a great job somewhere else and maybe he can 548 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: prove himself. 549 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 6: Then all right, take number two college kids, Sierra Clark 550 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 6: with the Yon couples. 551 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: Sierra is getting a head handed toward us. 552 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, Sierra says, Now, one thing about nil, it's leveling 553 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 6: the playing field here in the SEC. Sierra, explain yourself, Well, 554 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 6: of course you have. 555 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 10: Your Georgia's and Alabamas that have been dominant over the years, 556 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 10: but now there's more teams in the middle of the 557 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 10: packs that are rising up. I mean, if a team 558 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 10: like Ole Miss beats Oklahoma this week and I think 559 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 10: they're in the College Football Playoff, and then we see 560 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 10: that College Game Day is going to Vanderbilt take on 561 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 10: mis Zoo and all of the program, PEP Strong and 562 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 10: il programs. They recruit from all over the place using 563 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 10: the transfer portal, and it's made those middle of the 564 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 10: pack teams headed. 565 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 8: Toward the top. 566 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 10: And it would not shock me if those middle of 567 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 10: the pack teams made the college football playoffs. 568 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you're graduating, Congrau. 569 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: Go ahead, pitch your little tassel to the other side, 570 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: Tosha Kapaniir, you're graduating because look, at the end of 571 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 1: the day, you talk about the SEC, but even if 572 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: you look at the Big Ten, look at the team 573 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: like Indiana out of the blue. Indiana is a powerhouse 574 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: right beating any and everybody. 575 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 5: They look great. 576 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: You talk about old miss and Lane kiffing out there 577 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: doing this thing. I mean, the fact of the matter 578 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: is these teams are getting good quickly, and with the 579 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: transfer portal as well, you're able to reshape and retool quickly. 580 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: And now it is becoming you have a chance to 581 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: compete where you did in otherwise for some of these 582 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: more middling teams in the SEC. So I believe I 583 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: agree with you that it's going to be more competitive 584 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: ever than ever. And to just sit up there and 585 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: dominate for ten to twelve years, I don't see that happening. 586 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: Sierra is sophomore. 587 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 3: Sierra, Okay, they won a couple of games something, it's 588 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: the same teams and the only reason why maybe they're 589 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 3: gonna be in a college football playoff because now they 590 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 3: let twelve teams in or they're gonna let twenty in. 591 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 3: So sure, some of these other schools will finally get in, 592 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: but it's the same schools. 593 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 4: Let me see some of these middling schools. 594 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 3: Let me see Indiana win a national championship, and then 595 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: I'll feel different about it. 596 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 4: Until then, no, I'm not buying it. 597 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 6: Last one College Kids Sierra Clark Hoach of the have 598 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 6: CCT podcast, sitting in with the couple talking little college football. 599 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 6: Last one, Sierra says Texas A and m at LSU 600 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 6: must win for head coach Brian Kelly. Go Tigers, Sierra 601 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 6: tell us, why. 602 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, this is absolutely a must win for Brian Kelly. 603 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 10: He's been there for a few years now, and we 604 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 10: know for some spooky stuff that goes down in Baton Ruge, Louisiana, 605 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 10: especially during the night games. LSU's only lost one night 606 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 10: game since Brian Kelly got there, and that was last 607 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 10: year against Alabama and Stans are just tired of not 608 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 10: being back in the place so they were in twenty 609 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 10: nineteen with Joe Burrow. LSU right now five and two 610 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 10: headed towards almost the bottom half of the SEC. So 611 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 10: this is just a must win game. And Texas A 612 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 10: and M is not an easy team to beat. The 613 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 10: ranked number three in the nation, have a great quarterback 614 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 10: who's mobile and Marcel Reid. So I think that if 615 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 10: LSC loses this game, because you cannot lose at home 616 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 10: in Baton, Ruge is one of the those electric places 617 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 10: to play. If they lose, I think coach Kelly is 618 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 10: going to be on the hot seat. 619 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 5: If it's all me, then yes, you're graduating. I always 620 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 5: say congratulations. 621 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: He's right on that list of guys who are always 622 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: like right there where you kind of feel like you 623 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: could even say Franklin. Maybe not to that degree. He's 624 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: wonted some big games, but where you always want more. 625 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 1: There's always left to be desired, and I can agree 626 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: that if he starts to falter some more of this season, 627 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: that you start warming up that seat. I ain't saying 628 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: his buns are all the way toasty, but they get 629 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: the heat is on a little bit making him twisting 630 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: shot and be a little uncomfortable. 631 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 5: So I agree with you. You graduated. 632 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: Finally you graduated. 633 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 5: Congratulations, Sier. 634 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: I think you finally nailed one. All right, It's okay, 635 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 3: it was a rough week, but this one you nailed. 636 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 3: Congratulations mazle top. 637 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 4: How's that? 638 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 5: Thank you? 639 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that James Franklin went here. She would have hated 640 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: to be. She would have hated to be on our 641 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: show that day he got fired. We let him have it, 642 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: we be. 643 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 4: We poured barbecue sauce on his back. 644 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, we let him have it. 645 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 10: There. 646 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: See our great stuff as always, thank you, Thank you one, 647 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: no doubt as always pretty good stuff there, all right. 648 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: See we got a nice job. 649 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, man, I completely agree. 650 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: Grin. 651 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 5: It's a good way to get some college football in 652 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 5: as well. 653 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: So we got the all the investigation and the rest 654 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: that happened in the NBA, and it had me thinking 655 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: about something. We had a conversation about the face of 656 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: the NBA, but it was about something else that now 657 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that's why he may have had a 658 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: disposition he did on the bench. 659 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 5: We'll tell you what we're talking about. 660 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: It's Rob Parker, Kevin Washington the I Couple on the 661 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: TV Themes on Thursday. 662 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio. 663 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 664 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: the nation. 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We were talking. 681 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: Yesterday, I believe it was within the last couple of 682 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: days about Lebron's disposition during the game on the court 683 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: where he's usually Gregarias. 684 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 5: Even if he's not. 685 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: Playing, he's locked in he's coaching, he's high five and teammates. 686 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 5: You know he is. He's been that same way his 687 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 5: whole career. 688 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: And now that we hear his name is not an 689 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: investigation and that he's being investigated, but that you know, 690 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: Damon Jones knew that Lebron wasn't gonna play in a 691 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: certain game and allegedly spread information about that. I'm wondering now, Rob, 692 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: looking back, if Lebron had any inkling, like in the 693 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: next twenty four hours this is about to drop. 694 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 5: No, you don't think so. 695 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 4: Don't think so. I don't think anybody. 696 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: You don't think he No, I don't nah, I think 697 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 1: I mean, that's obviously your opinion. 698 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 699 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 5: What to connect it. 700 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 3: No, he's connected that Chauncey Billups was going to be 701 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: arrested this morning at UH and UH. 702 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: Terry Rogier he knew that. 703 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 6: Well. 704 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: Terry Rogiers, a lawyer, talked about how they had been 705 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: in with back and forth and that they knew they knew. 706 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 3: That there was an investigation, but they didn't know they 707 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: was going to be arrested. 708 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: Right because they talked about how it's some similar to 709 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: what we talked about, how they made it as if 710 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: he was a person adv inenter is not a suspect, 711 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: and so that's why he's upset. I feel like to investigate. 712 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: I gotta snoop around, right, I gotta ask questions, I 713 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: gotta pull you, I gotta make calls. I gotta do this. 714 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: I got it. 715 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean that he knows when exactly they're 716 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 3: going to arrest somebody. So, yeah, you might know that 717 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 3: this investigation going on. The cops Usually when they do 718 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 3: these things, it's a surprise. They don't announce, oh, yeah, tomorrow, 719 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 3: we're going to Chauncey Billups's house to arrest him. No, 720 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 3: if they wanted to do that, they could have called 721 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: Chauncey bills attorney and said, I. 722 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 5: Didn't say Chauncey, I ain't say nothing. 723 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 4: What are you saying? 724 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 5: You're talking about Damon Jones. I'm wondering, Yeah, if Lebron, 725 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 5: but no. 726 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 4: Damn Jones knew that he was going to get arrested today. 727 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 5: I'm wondering it. 728 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: So because I'm listening, I'm going back to specifically. 729 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: I think that Lebron James having a frown face was 730 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: not about Damon Jones being arrested. 731 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 5: I'm just this is me, This is this is me wondering. 732 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 5: I'm listening. 733 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: We already talked about it that you know, the initial 734 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: reaction Jones, Well, not Damon Jones. 735 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 5: I don't think he cared. 736 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: Not. 737 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 5: I'm sure their friends, I'm clearly we know that. But 738 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 5: I meant more so. 739 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: I meant more so my name being linked to something 740 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: like this, I'm not what. 741 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 4: Just the idea that Damon Jones, yeah. 742 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: Just because he that Damon Jones knew that Lebron was 743 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: gonna play. Now Lebron knowing I'm the biggest name in 744 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: the whole. You know, I could be the I could 745 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: become a thing because of this, I could be. 746 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 5: What did Lebron know? Did he tell him something? 747 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 9: Well? 748 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 5: Why didn't he play that game? And I'm wondering. 749 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: This is me just speculating when I when I yesterday, 750 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, he's being a bad teammate, which is unusual. 751 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 5: What's going on? 752 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 4: We've seen him? 753 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 5: Is he pouting? 754 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: Because for an act like it and all of his 755 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 3: body language, we've seen it before. 756 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 5: We've seen it. I don't know how many times you 757 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 5: watch games. 758 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 3: Many times he's walked off the court without even wapping 759 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 3: up anybody or or saying. 760 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 5: When he's sitting on the side of the you know, 761 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 5: not playing. 762 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: That's the first time you ever saw him look like that. 763 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: Pout yesterday, absolutely for an entire game, not like a 764 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: minute at the game if they were up twenty and 765 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: they got blue out or something. That was the first 766 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: time I've seen him a whole game be not coaching 767 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: up somebody, not in the huddle, not cracking a joke, 768 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: not eating peanuts. 769 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 3: It's also the first season that started in the NBA 770 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: where he wasn't the focal point. 771 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: And that was my point yesterday and it was now 772 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, let me have. 773 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 4: My aluming him had on ahead. 774 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 5: You know, I'm sitting here like they didn't even know 775 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 5: something was about to drop. 776 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Rob, people be connected, people be having 777 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: some insight. Hey look, I'm just trying to tell you 778 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: your boy had to go down. 779 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 5: You ain't heard it from me. Your boy were about 780 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 5: to do a raid. You ain't never know. People to 781 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 5: get tipped off about stuff happening that happen, and a 782 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 5: couple with all the mother. 783 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: I just think that sometimes people look into stuff and 784 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 3: try to add more. Lebron is not the center of 785 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 3: anything other than Damon Jones told people that he wasn't 786 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: going to play. If I'm Lebron, how this doesn't affect me. 787 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 3: They didn't say Lebron did this or gave out an 788 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: information to the mob. If you told me that he 789 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 3: was named in it, then maybe I would feel different. 790 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: I mean, his name coming up in a massive investigation 791 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: with the NBA. 792 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 4: Were you in the base? I see his name in 793 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 4: any headlines ahead and people absolutely use his face headlt 794 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 4: So don't know what you were reading. I didn't see it.