WEBVTT - The Ultimate Guide to Podcast Equipment

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<v Speaker 1>It is important to put the effort into sounding good.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just your voice, which should sound good, but also

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<v Speaker 1>the recording of your voice should sound good. People will

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<v Speaker 1>forgive lower quality video than they will lower quality audio.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to do a solo episode today, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>guys seem to enjoy when I do these solo episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking forward to this one because this one

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a pickup of a blog post that

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote back in twenty eighteen on will Lucas Co,

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<v Speaker 1>which is my website, check me out. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote this blog post entitled the gear you need if

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to build a highly rated podcast, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>even link that in the show notes, the link to

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<v Speaker 1>that blog post, and I'll link everything I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in the blow in the show notes as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But today I wanted to update that list, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about the gear you need to make

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<v Speaker 1>a highly successful, highly rated podcast. And so I've been

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<v Speaker 1>privileged to be podcasting since about twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and previous to that, I did radio since I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say nineteen ninety nine, back in the nineteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety eight, I think actually so I've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>this for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds wild to say that I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Been doing some since the nineteen hundreds, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing it since nineteen hundreds, So.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, those things correlate.

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<v Speaker 1>So podcasting is a lot like radio, and so having

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<v Speaker 1>all those years of radio experience translated super duper well

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<v Speaker 1>into podcasting. And it's not that I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>this because I don't want people get confused like you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have that sort of radio background to be

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<v Speaker 1>good at podcasting, because you obviously don't. There's so many

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<v Speaker 1>people who are successful at podcasting that have never been

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<v Speaker 1>in a radio studio, and so I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>clear that up before I went further. So I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of things in that blog post that

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<v Speaker 1>I will rehash today because a lot of the gear

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm using I still like to use. And there

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I will say about podcasting, or actually i'll

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<v Speaker 1>start with me and equipment, and so there are three

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<v Speaker 1>four you know, there are certain levels of equipment or

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<v Speaker 1>software I will talk about today that will and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>provide options. So if you want to have the expensive option,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll provide that the middle of the row option, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>provide that, and the inexpensive option, I will write that

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<v Speaker 1>or say that also. And so, but what's important to

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<v Speaker 1>know at least about me. I don't know how you work,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is how I work. I struggle to produce

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<v Speaker 1>creative product, creative outcomes with cheap stuff. It's just really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult for me to do that. And so I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when I was learn I'm a musician, so when I

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<v Speaker 1>was learning to play drums, I needed to learn on

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<v Speaker 1>a quality drum set. Because I'm playing on a cheap

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<v Speaker 1>drum set. I just couldn't get it. And so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have that issue. But if I'm learning how

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<v Speaker 1>to do something, I need quality tools to learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Once I got it, then I can go use whatever

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<v Speaker 1>and I can do it the thing on whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's difficult for me to learn using cheap stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>not to say that everything that's inexpensive is cheap, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying that. There are a whole lot of blaw posts,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of podcasts about you know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>do certain things just using your phone, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>do certain things, you know, going completely free. And while

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<v Speaker 1>that may be completely true, I don't learn that way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's difficult for me to produce a podcast just using

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<v Speaker 1>my phone, although that is extremely popular, I see need

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<v Speaker 1>to say popular. It's possible you can produce a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>just using your phone. Now, with that said, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anybody who has a super successful podcast and just

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<v Speaker 1>does it using their phone, and so you can start

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<v Speaker 1>that way. And I think it's necessary to get reps

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<v Speaker 1>in by using the tools that you have at your

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<v Speaker 1>disposal and not investing a whole bunch of money or

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of things into something that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be serious about anyway. So I do think

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<v Speaker 1>there's value in using the tools that you already have

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<v Speaker 1>at your exposal. But I think it's more important to

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<v Speaker 1>prove to yourself and to the world that you are

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<v Speaker 1>serious and that you're going to do this thing before

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<v Speaker 1>you have all the dollars invested into it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>More important to do it that way, and more so

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<v Speaker 1>proving that you are in this to win it, versus

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that you're going to scale a big podcast just

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<v Speaker 1>using a limited amount of tools. I just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>people who do that, and so I'm just being honest.

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<v Speaker 2>With y'all. So we talk about that, talk about us, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, setting up your phone and doing things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talking into the audio recorder. Start that way, completely fine,

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<v Speaker 1>and I encourage you to do that. I will advise

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<v Speaker 1>people to do that, But it's not necessarily again to

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<v Speaker 1>belabor the point, and unintentionally, it's not necessarily because I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that you're gonna win that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is an important step to proving that you are serious

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<v Speaker 1>about this. So what I'm saying that all that to

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<v Speaker 1>say is I did mention I have a radio background,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I had the privilege or else. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a marketing and video production company, so I have the

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<v Speaker 1>privilege of already having a lot of the equipment. When

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to go and start doing a podcast, already

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<v Speaker 1>had a bunch of equipment. I already had computers, I

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<v Speaker 1>already had keyboards and instruments, and I already had recording devices.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for me, like that's just a playground that

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<v Speaker 1>I have the privilege to play in. And so not

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has that. And so again we're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all these tools. So I want to start here talking

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<v Speaker 1>about just that very thing, recording software, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you a couple of different levels. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of all of these things that I'm going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about today, I have, and I'm even gonna do a

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<v Speaker 1>video version of this podcast, so you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>check this out on YouTube and actually see all the stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I record, I'm start with the higher end stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'll talk about the middle of the row,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'll talk about the inexpensive end or free options.

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<v Speaker 1>I record using Apple Logic Pro, and so I record

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<v Speaker 1>using that because I learned how to record using things

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<v Speaker 1>like pro Tools and Apple Logic, and so if I

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<v Speaker 1>were to start over again, there are way more tools

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<v Speaker 1>available on the market today that you can use to record,

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<v Speaker 1>especially recording yourself and or you know, guests, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a guest podcast. There are way more

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<v Speaker 1>things on the market today because podcasting is way bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than it was when I started that. Are you know

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<v Speaker 1>these things are available to you, and are you know

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<v Speaker 1>you can amazon it? You'll have it tomorrow. But Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Logic Pro is one of the things that I record,

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing I pretty much record or I should

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<v Speaker 1>say edit with, because I records using a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>different things but editing, particularly I record using.

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<v Speaker 2>Apple Logic Pro is powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>It does way more than than it's necessary to podcast

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<v Speaker 1>because it's designed for you know, audio production in a

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<v Speaker 1>big way, So you can do everything from scoring movies

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<v Speaker 1>on it to doing you know, music making beats on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But just to be clear, it's very powerful also for

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<v Speaker 1>recording your voice and voices of people you may be

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<v Speaker 1>interviewing on your show. So what's important to me is

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<v Speaker 1>that I have an interface that is very easy to use.

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<v Speaker 1>And so sometimes, because I've been doing this for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, I will go through and you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm recording, I can see the waveform of my voice,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I've been doing this so long, I can

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<v Speaker 1>look get the waveform and find things that don't make

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<v Speaker 1>sense because I know how a voice should look in

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<v Speaker 1>wave form. And so when I see a quick little

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<v Speaker 1>spike in the audio and there's not something anything to

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<v Speaker 1>the left or right of it, that's probably either a

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<v Speaker 1>click in a voice something like that, or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can just go and quickly edit that out

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<v Speaker 1>super duper fast without even listening back to it, cause

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<v Speaker 1>I know what it looks like. Is I've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>this for a long time. So Aple Logic Pro I

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<v Speaker 1>believe right now is like two hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's cool about it is it's not like most

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<v Speaker 1>software anymore where you're paying monthly for. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>subscription that never ends. Like once you buy Apple Logic,

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<v Speaker 1>you have Apple Logic and you don't have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a subscription necessarily. So I'm actually, you know, in I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of don't like that about today's world, especially as

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<v Speaker 1>a consumer, maybe a producer, but not as a consumer.

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<v Speaker 1>Having you can't just buy software you know, so often anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>y there's a subscription for which is whack.

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<v Speaker 2>But I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you don't want to spend that much on

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<v Speaker 1>an audio editor and or recorder, because you can do

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<v Speaker 1>both in Apple Logic. You have things like Adobe Audition,

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<v Speaker 1>which I also have, I just don't use it because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't love I shouldn't say because of people from

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<v Speaker 1>Adobe listening to this. I just I'm not a big

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<v Speaker 1>Adobe fan, and I kind of see Adobe a lot

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<v Speaker 1>like I see a lot of Microsoft products. They just

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<v Speaker 1>don't work for the way my brain works. Apple products

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<v Speaker 1>work way better for the way my brain works. But

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<v Speaker 1>with I said, I do have Adobe's Creative Cloud because

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<v Speaker 1>my video production team works a lot in Premiere and

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<v Speaker 1>it's the only reason I have Adobe Creative Cloud because

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<v Speaker 1>even like the designs I want to have anymore, I

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<v Speaker 1>can do a lot of that in Canva. And so

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<v Speaker 1>Adobe Creative Cloud comes with Adobe Audition, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>doll which means digital audio workstation. Adobe Audition is a

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<v Speaker 1>doll which you can can use to record and edit

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<v Speaker 1>your voice and the voices of your guests, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can do that very easily. Again, it comes as part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Creative Cloud. So if you have Adobe Creative Cloud,

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<v Speaker 1>you can probably already download this as part of the

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<v Speaker 1>suite of tools you have. So I mean you get

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<v Speaker 1>Adobe Premiere, you get Adobe Photoshop Illustrator, all these things,

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<v Speaker 1>and an audition depending on which level of the Creative

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<v Speaker 1>Cloud you subscribe to from Adobe Audition from Adobe. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but as part of the Creative Cloud. There's different versions

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<v Speaker 1>of this, especially if you're in school, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>a discount for the Creative Cloud, but you know there

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<v Speaker 1>are versions where you can get like twenty one dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a month and you can get Adobe Audition for that.

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<v Speaker 1>On the free side, there's programs like Audacity, which I've

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<v Speaker 1>used before. Again, it's kind of a scaled back version

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<v Speaker 1>of both Apple Logic and Audition, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>for most people, it will work and it's free. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's an open source audio editing you know software,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's free to use. You can learn it

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly, and you can export your audio edit your

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<v Speaker 1>audio record into it, you know, and we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the tools you'll need to record into it in a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can do all that with Audacity and it's free.

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<v Speaker 1>And then going from there we talk about hardware recorders.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Recording software when I'm talking about Apologic, Audition and Audacity,

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<v Speaker 1>but I pretty I don't record into software often. Right

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I'm recording into software because I'm not interviewing anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>But if i am interviewing somebody, I'm going to use

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<v Speaker 1>an external recorder just because of the way my setup

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<v Speaker 1>is designed. And if you ask twenty different people on

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<v Speaker 1>podcasting setups, you will get twenty different answers. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you what Lucas does, and so I've been doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for in my own experience for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>It works for me, and it probably would work for

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<v Speaker 1>you also, But external recorders. The most important thing you

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<v Speaker 1>learn when you start recording audio or video or writing documents.

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<v Speaker 2>Is saving it. Because what you.

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<v Speaker 1>Will find is when you have a machine that is

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<v Speaker 1>doing you know where you input the work into the machine.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't save it, you will lose work. And

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<v Speaker 1>it raised your hand. If you've ever lost work, you

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<v Speaker 1>see technology before. And so I like to use external

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<v Speaker 1>recorders because if I'm recording directly into matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>while I'm saying that I'm gonna save this, which I

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<v Speaker 1>can do while I'm recording, and then I have to

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<v Speaker 1>stop and actually even to the program crash, it will

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<v Speaker 1>likely save an AUTOSI, an auto save version. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>less likely I will lose it if my computer crash

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<v Speaker 1>right now or the software crash, but it's still possible.

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<v Speaker 1>So going back to hardware, I personally am a big

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<v Speaker 1>fan of recording into a dedicated device. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why is because again I'm gonna say this a hundred times,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this a long time, and when you've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing certain things for a long time, there you

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<v Speaker 1>develop these habits or ticks because of the things you've

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<v Speaker 1>experienced to where you don't like to do things other ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I don't like to record directly into

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<v Speaker 1>computers is because computers do crash. Not that other hardware

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<v Speaker 1>does not crash, but through hardware is probably only doing

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<v Speaker 1>one thing. It's just accepting your audio and it's recording it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably all it's doing. Your computer is doing probably

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty forty one hundred other things at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to record your stuff. Hear your stuff, record

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<v Speaker 1>your stuff, display your stuff, all all of those things

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<v Speaker 1>and even more stuff. You probably got tabs open in

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<v Speaker 1>the background, and all these things open up more gateways

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<v Speaker 1>for things.

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<v Speaker 2>To go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I prefer to record using an external device

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<v Speaker 1>that is just doing what I'm asking you to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Record.

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<v Speaker 1>So I record, for the most part, especially when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing an interview, I record using a zoom Age six,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a six track portable recorder. I can carry

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<v Speaker 1>it with this little case. It's like a size of

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<v Speaker 1>a book, and the case of the size of a book.

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<v Speaker 1>The device is half the size of a book with

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<v Speaker 1>wise at least, and I can plug different microphones into it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can add six different tracks, and so if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interviewing somebody, I can be interviewing several different people

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<v Speaker 1>at one time, and each of them have their own volume.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say I'm sitting in front of three other

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<v Speaker 1>people and one person talks really really loud, other person

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<v Speaker 1>talks really really quietly. I can turn the person whose

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<v Speaker 1>voice is really quiet up louder and while keeping the

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<v Speaker 1>person who talks loud their volume down lower, recording them

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<v Speaker 1>that way because you know you want independent So I've

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<v Speaker 1>used to it when I was didn't have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money. I was trying to record using you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one singular input, and you can control the various volumes

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<v Speaker 1>people talk at because everybody's being recorded to one channel

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<v Speaker 1>and so you can't like splice out one person's voice

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<v Speaker 1>from another. But if you're recording on different tracks and

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<v Speaker 1>then you import that audio into a doll like Adobe

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<v Speaker 1>or you know final cut sorry Logic like I use,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can see everybody's voice on their independent channel,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can make tweaks to your voice without touching mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's super super important and also has phantom power,

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<v Speaker 1>which means I can plug a microphone into it that

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<v Speaker 1>is not necessarily powered itself. It's not like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>unplug it into a wall. But this microphone is just

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<v Speaker 1>a microphone and it needs power from some source. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the Zoom eighty six has phantom power on it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what it's called when you need the power

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<v Speaker 1>a microphone, so it will provide the power your microphone

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be able to accept your voice. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>recording directly to an SD card, so the audio is

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<v Speaker 1>not being record record it to the device. You are

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<v Speaker 1>putting in another SD card into the device which it's

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<v Speaker 1>recording to.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's another.

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<v Speaker 1>Level there of security for the audio that you are

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<v Speaker 1>interested in capturing. The device I don't have, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is a really really cool device. Is a

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<v Speaker 1>road Caster Pro. I've used it, I've seen other people

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<v Speaker 1>use it. It's amazing for podcasts recording. It's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>a whole podcast studio in one. And what I love

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<v Speaker 1>about the road Caster Pro is not only can you

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<v Speaker 1>you know, use Bluetooth with it, but it has programmable

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<v Speaker 1>sound pads. So let's say you are, you know, recording

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast where you want to have sound effects. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>these are just pads that you can trigger at any

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<v Speaker 1>moment and give yourself like an audience clap or laugh

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, a trumpet or a fire truck horn,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can program all these sound effects into it

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<v Speaker 1>and trigger them, you know, at the push of a button,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that stuff happens in the recording in

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<v Speaker 1>real time.

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<v Speaker 2>Suber super cool. And then the inexpensive route, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So I should go back. Actually, so the zoom A

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<v Speaker 1>six which I use, is about three hundred and fifty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>The road Castered Pro a little bit more expensive. That's

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<v Speaker 1>about six hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Today.

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<v Speaker 1>There are different versions of it, so you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to have the Pro, but the the task Cam DRO five,

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<v Speaker 1>which I have, also is one hundred dollars. And the

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<v Speaker 1>task Cam what's cool about it, it's compact, it's more affordable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about one hundred dollars, and it has microphones built

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<v Speaker 1>into it, so stereo microphones which are built into it,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can legit, just pull out the device, hold

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<v Speaker 1>it in your hand, and record people right into the device,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't even need an external microphone because they're

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<v Speaker 1>built into it. And it also records into a Nest card.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a great choice for people who are beginning

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<v Speaker 1>and just trying to figure out if podcasting is for

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<v Speaker 1>them or if you just don't want to spend a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of money on this equipment and you just got

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<v Speaker 1>something saying you gotta get it out. Rove is a

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<v Speaker 1>good solution for you. So let's talk about microphones, because

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<v Speaker 1>I did talk about this on.

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<v Speaker 2>The blog posts. Because the each.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the microphones I'm about to mention to you I

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<v Speaker 1>have now, and the first one, which is the more

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<v Speaker 1>expensive one, I did not have when I wrote the

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<v Speaker 1>blog post, but it is the Sure SM seven B.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a four hundred dollars microphone, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>this microphone. It's my favorite microphone out of everyone that

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<v Speaker 1>I have. It is because it's excellent for vocals spoken word,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not necessarily designed for much anything else than

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<v Speaker 1>that it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Designed for voices.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually not even using that microphone in this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but I love the microphone not only because it sounds amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also looks amazing when you are recording and

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<v Speaker 1>recording video at the same time a low profile, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stocky. It's just it's a beautiful microphone to

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<v Speaker 1>look at. And then the one I'm actually recording on

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<v Speaker 1>right now is a microphone I've had, almost, if not

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<v Speaker 1>since I started doing podcasts at all. I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>had this microphone since like the the two thousands, like

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<v Speaker 1>the first decade of the generation. So the road in

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<v Speaker 1>T one, which I'm recording on right now, is the

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<v Speaker 1>studio microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's super dupe.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've had to think for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Its super duper durable. I don't beat it up, cause

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I take care of my stuff. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>also good for musicians. So I talked about the uh

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<v Speaker 1>SM seven B, which is great for vocals. The NT one,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm recording to right now, is versatile, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can use it for audio I'm sorry now audio. You

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<v Speaker 1>can use it for vocals and if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>sing into it, if you're trying to record UH acoustic

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<v Speaker 1>instruments into it. You can use this NT one also,

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<v Speaker 1>But it sounds amazing too. It's just not it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a studio microphone, so it's not as necessarily designed

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<v Speaker 1>for people who are just doing podcasts like the SM

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<v Speaker 1>seven B is. If you're doing spoken word, that'sh your microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can also do this with the Sindheiser E

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<v Speaker 1>eight thirty five, which you also have, and we actually

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<v Speaker 1>use that microphone as the general house microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>For Lucille's, which is my jazz club that I have.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the eaight thirty five is a vocal microphone also,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's super duper rugged. I cannot tell you how

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<v Speaker 1>many times that I've seen that microphone dropped. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we have like ten of them, but I've seen them dropped,

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<v Speaker 1>beat up, you know, these things get dinged up. They

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<v Speaker 1>are great for live performers and even in person interviews

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<v Speaker 1>because if you're out on the streets and you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>in person interviews, you're probably gonna beat the mic up.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit. But the EA thirty five, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Like one hundred dollars microphone, still sounds amazing, travels super

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<v Speaker 1>duper well, and it just it just handles rough environments

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<v Speaker 1>way way well, way more well than like they rolled

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<v Speaker 1>in T one ever would because it's just not designed

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<v Speaker 1>for traveling that way. It's a studio microphone. It's designed

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<v Speaker 1>to be mounted and left alone. So that's it on microphones.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, I will put all this stuff in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes, and I'm probably even update the blog post

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<v Speaker 1>to to give you a new version of that since

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<v Speaker 1>it was sick. Ke here, since I did the last one.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about interfaces because sometimes people believe, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a computer and I have a microphone, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready to rock. Well that depends because certain microphones, your

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<v Speaker 1>computer can't read the audio, and so we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that because you need an audio interface. You need

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<v Speaker 1>something that goes that sits in between the microphone and

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<v Speaker 1>the computer, and that's called an audio interface. It converts

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<v Speaker 1>the analog signal of your voice, which your microphone can accept,

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<v Speaker 1>into a digital signal that your computer can process. Often

0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 1>they also improve sound quality. But the point of the

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<v Speaker 1>interface is to translate. It's the translator. It's the person

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<v Speaker 1>that if you go to a different country, they speak

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<v Speaker 1>a different language. The translator is the person that sits

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<v Speaker 1>in between you guys, hearing what you say, translating it

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 1>for them to understand. So the interface is the translator.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm speaking, and I'm speaking analog because my voice

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<v Speaker 1>is an analog tool and then or analog sound maybe

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.679
<v Speaker 1>that's a better way to say it. Analog sound. My

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<v Speaker 1>computer can't read my voice, and so the interface does that.

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<v Speaker 1>The Focus right. Scarlet two I too is a device

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<v Speaker 1>that I have. It's popular, it's easy to use, super

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<v Speaker 1>high quality sound. I can put two microphones into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can put instruments into it, and it's super great

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:47.040
<v Speaker 1>for podcasters people who are recording at home, and it's reliable.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's very hard to not get right because

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<v Speaker 1>it's designed to be simple and it has fanom power

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<v Speaker 1>on it, which I also mentioned about the Zoommate six.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I'm recording directly in my computer, which I

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:04.199
<v Speaker 1>want to do sometimes like today, I can just use

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the audio interface and it can translate the NT one

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:13.439
<v Speaker 1>which I'm using as a microphone, into something the computer

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 1>logic can read. So to I two, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>Focus by Scarlet super duer popular. This one's like one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty bucks. Then there's like the Bearringer Euphoria.

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<v Speaker 1>I particularly talk about the UMC two zero two HD.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I'm bringing this one up and there

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:35.680
<v Speaker 1>are other options Barringer provides, is because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of give it like an Apple to Apple. So

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<v Speaker 1>this one also has the two inputs, so I can

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<v Speaker 1>put two microphones into it if I'm talking to somebody

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 1>on my episode. I like Bearringer products for beginners because

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<v Speaker 1>they are designed pretty durably, pretty simple, and they try

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<v Speaker 1>to give you the bells and whistles that more expensive

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<v Speaker 1>tools give you, just without the costs. So obviously they're

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<v Speaker 1>not made with as high grade mechanicals or materials, I

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>should say.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're good. They're really good.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you don't want to spend two times

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the price a beer injury product will work super well.

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<v Speaker 1>And that doesn't mean that they're not quality things, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just not you know, their budget contest.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, then we could talk about this also because I

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the point of a an interface is to give

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<v Speaker 1>you the ability to translate. It's the mediator between your

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<v Speaker 1>voice and the computer. There are some microphones which are

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:41.640
<v Speaker 1>digital microphones, and I have the Blue Yetti also which

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I like that microphone a lot. I don't use it

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>when I'm recording the guests, but I use it if

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just talking into the computer and just need to

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 1>record something real quick. It's more of like my you know,

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 1>on the fly, Hey I got to record something.

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Keep it moving. And so the U it's a USB microphone.

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>It eliminates the need for interface altogether because it's just

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.919
<v Speaker 1>got a USB connection and it's plug and play. You

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>don't have to download any software to use it. You know,

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you plug it in, it's ready to rock. And it

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>was double bato YETI is. It also has a headphone jack,

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>so you can hear directly what's coming out, and so

0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you you could plug your headphones into the computer and

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 1>hear what it's hearing. But you can also plug right

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>into the microphone to hear what you can your microphone

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:32.199
<v Speaker 1>is hearing super dope and that you ADDI YETI is

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>somewhere like one hundred and thirty bucks somewhere around there.

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>And again for I said this about five times. I'm

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna put all these links in the show notes.

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Storage.

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned saving to you a minute ago, and it

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>is saving. What is the point of creating if you

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>can't save it? And there have been many heartaches I've

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:57.679
<v Speaker 1>had because I produced something that was beautiful and it

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>did not save and it's lost forever. Reliable storage solutions

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>is of utmost importance. And you don't want to just

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 1>store things in equipment or on a computer that is vulnerable,

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 1>and so you want to record things in this stored

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>preferably in more than one place, because just to have

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 1>less points of fault. And so if anything ever happened

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>in your computer, or you ran out of room, or

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you need to free up space or all the other things,

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you have your media your content stored on a device.

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>So even if you are using the computer to store

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.879
<v Speaker 1>your stuff, highly recommend also recording it off the computer

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>in a device like the Lace Rugged USBC drive, which

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 1>I use. I have a four teara byte one. I

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>think I have a couple four teara byte ones. There

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>are bigger ones.

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Like eight terabytes. I just have a couple of four.

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Teabyte ones because that's really all I needed for I'm

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>not personally storing a lot of video online. My team

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>does on their but they have NAS devices. But I

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>am storing most of my audio files on one of

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>these Lacey Rugged devices. Now, the important thing is this space, obviously,

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and typically when I'm recording an audio only podcast, the

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>audio each my voice and the guest voice might each

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>be If it's a half an hour thirty five to

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>forty five minute podcast, my audio might be one hundred

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>and eighty megabytes. Their audio may be one hundred and

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 1>eighty megabytes. I got plenty of space for several seasons

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:38.479
<v Speaker 1>of a podcast in afford hereabout device and it's rugged

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and so there are no moving parts in a Lacey

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>rugged device. You know, hard drives back in the day

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 1>used to have a little you know, disc in them

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that would spin and you could hear them when you

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 1>plug them in, and they would store your stuff pretty

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>much on a CD. That's pretty much like what it was.

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>These Lacey devices are a solid state there SSDs, so

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>there are no moving parts in the laceys, which makes

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:10.439
<v Speaker 1>it way more secure and less vulnerable. And as a

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>byproduct of being having no moving parts, it's also faster

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and so highly recommend.

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 2>The lace rugged drives.

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Then we can talk about things like Dropbox and Google Drive,

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>which are both sweet. I have subscriptions to both which

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 1>over time I will probably move all my.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Stuff over to the drop Box. I just had Drive

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 2>for a very long time, so it's lots of to

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>move over.

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>But I like Dropbox because a lot of version control.

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I can set a configuration for who can do what

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>inside the drive, and I can reverse back in history

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to see, you know, if somebody change something, I can

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>go back to the previous version. I like, I'm giving

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you versions drawn by two different ways, but you get it.

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:56.479
<v Speaker 1>I love that also, automatic backups, file sharing, all those things,

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>obviously because it's in the cloud that can so synchronized

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>things between devices.

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Google Drive is.

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Also dope too, and it integrates into your other Google services,

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>so if you're using you know, Google Email or Google Calendar,

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>all these different things.

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 2>It's easy to use.

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>So you just take your pick whichever one you like better.

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not here to you know, k for either one

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>of them, but whichever one you find that you like,

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Trybox or Google Drive. I support them both because I

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>have subscriptions to both. And then you know, you have

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>things like just a regular SD card which you can

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>store your stuff.

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 2>On very cost very affordably. Pretty much.

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>What I would say is you don't want to leave

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>your stuff on an SD card. They are small, and

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>there is something to say about things being too small,

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>especially when you're trying to store them for a long time.

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot easier to lose it.

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>So I would recommend using an SD card to save

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>things only for a short term. Just don't recommend saving

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>things for a long time on a SD card. So

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>now you got this amazing podcast recorded and you gotta

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>distribute it to the world. How're you gonna get it

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>out there? And so from there, I for a long

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>time used libsn to host and distribute my podcast And

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>so when I started up ten Podcasts, which was the

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>one I had before Black Tech, Green Money i S,

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I used lipsyn And so Lipsen has a variety of

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>different plans, from plans that are you putting out one

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>episode a month, you know, very small size, to ones

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>where you putting it out daily and you need analytics.

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Lipsyn has all of that stuff, and it starts like

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>five bucks a month, just again depending on which one

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>you wanna use.

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's also easy to get.

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Integrated with Google, Google's Podcasts platform and Apple Podcasts, cause

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>it kind of walks you through how to get Just

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>cause you put it on lips it doesn't mean you're

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>automatically on those platforms. You have to connected them, and

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>lipsn makes it easy to do that. One I have

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>not used is Podbean, and I only mention it because

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I know other people who have used Podbean. I just

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know a lot about it, but it is I'm

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>sure a lot like lipsyns. From when I'm told very

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>user friendly, but that's pretty much all I can say

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>about Bobby because I don't use it. The other one

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I have used also is SoundCloud. It's probably good in

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the way that you have access to a directory and

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>so you're part of a community with other people podcasting.

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:38.479
<v Speaker 1>So it's probably easier to be found on SoundCloud versus

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>like libsn because there's like not a community of people

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>searching on Libsyn. That's more of like a distribution platform,

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>and so SoundCloud people are going there to find things

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't produce. So I don't want to go

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>listen to stuff, So let me go to SoundCloud and

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>type in podcasts on politics, podcasts on technology, and you

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>will find podcasts on politics and podcasts on technology. If

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you go to SoundCloud, it's not just a platform, but

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>also you can be part of a community of people

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and be found there. And so Libsyn, pod being, lips

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>and pod being and SoundCloud. You know, I'm a Lipson

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>fan and SoundCloud fan, just depending on what you're trying

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>to do. But today we use a platform that's more

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>developed for corporations that have advertising partners, So I heart

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.959
<v Speaker 1>handles all that stuff for me today. But Lipsyn is

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>super dope if you want to go that route, and

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend it. For video, Let's say you are

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>going to actually I'm only going to talk like for

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a second about video because most of the stuff I

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>talked about today has to do with audio podcasts, and

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>so if you want to talk about video, well, let's

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>do that for like one minute. And so today we

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>record videos, especially if I'm doing if I'm recording with

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody remotely. We no longer record via Zoom, which we

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>used to do, which that's also one of the options.

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>You can get a Zoom account for like fifteen bucks

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>a month, but we use Riverside.

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>We use riverside because riverside allows the video file to

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>be taken from the device. So here's what happens. So

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>when you are on like a Zoom call, you might

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>look amazing to yourself because you're not looking at yourself

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>via the Internet. You're looking at yourself from your camera,

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and the person looking at you, who's in another house,

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>another office, another state, is looking at you, however, via

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>the Internet, which means what you see is not what

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>they see. You look super clear to yourself. You don't look, however,

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>how you look to them. Riverside is different. The riverside

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>what happens is it's recording on your local device. So

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>what you are recording is what your computer camera or

0:33:56.560 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>your external camera sees, not what is uploaded the web

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>or streamed, I should say, so you get a much

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:08.800
<v Speaker 1>higher quality audio I mean video feed. And so before

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:13.280
<v Speaker 1>you close down a riverside recording, you gotta wait before

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>all the video gets uploaded, because again it's recording from

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 1>your device, not from the stream. That makes sense, Okay,

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you got it. So riverside is dope in

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that way. And your guests also they have they're being

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>recorded on their side, so it's dope that way. Then

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>if you just want to see somebody, but you're not

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 1>necessarily recording.

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>But it's you get a better.

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Audio recording if you guys can see each other, because

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 1>there's other context clues you get by seeing their face.

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>So Google meet is free, I mean, is you can

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>use that just because if you want to.

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Get good quality.

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>You can also screen share and do stuff like that,

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>but I don't I've never used screen sharing in a podcast,

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>but you can do it. I've actually never even recorded

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 1>a Google Meet, so maybe you can record a Google meet.

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it's free and you can see

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>each other and you can at least you capture the

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 1>audio from there. So those are your options. On the

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.280
<v Speaker 1>video side, we can have another podcast on.

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:20.879
<v Speaker 2>An actual full video.

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Podcast if you want to go that route, which I

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>recommend if you can do it. So I say all

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 1>this to say, you know, it is easier than ever

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>to have a podcast, a beautiful podcast, and one that

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 1>people want to listen to. And so the important thing

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned this at the start and I will close

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>with this also is the sound matters, and no matter

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>what people say about you can start using any tool

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 1>in front of you. It is important to put the

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>effort into sounding good, not just your voice which should

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>sound good, but also the record of your voice should

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>sound good.

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 2>People will forgive lower.

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Quality video, then they will lower quality audio. If you

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>have a video that is not the best quality in

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>video clarity production, but the audio is still good, you

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:21.919
<v Speaker 1>will continue watching if the content is there. Now, if

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>the video is amazing but the audio sounds terrible, you

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>may actually turn it off a lot faster because the

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 1>audio sounds like garbage. And so it is important to

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 1>put the work in to get high quality audio even

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>before you put the work into getting higher quality video.

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 1>And so I admonish you to do the work in

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that respect. Again, you can use all of these tools. Again,

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know big podcasters who record using a lot

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>of the tools they tell y'all that you can use.

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>The point is not that, though. The point is that

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:06.720
<v Speaker 1>you can start and you can get going doing these things.

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>But there is a graduation that happens inevitably if you

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>start to get good at it and you start to

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:14.879
<v Speaker 1>get more invested in it. And so if you are

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>just starting, I encourage you highly to just start with

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the tools in front of you. Start with your audio

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<v Speaker 1>recorder on your iPhone, Start with you know, one of.

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<v Speaker 1>Online that you can edit and use AI and all

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<v Speaker 1>these things to edit your stuff down. I encourage you

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<v Speaker 1>least today, not in a year from now when AI

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<v Speaker 1>gets even more crazy, I would probably have to change

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<v Speaker 1>this whole episode. But for today, there are things that

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<v Speaker 1>you should need to do. Things you need to do

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<v Speaker 1>well in order to have your podcast be coveted by

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<v Speaker 1>the masses. So with all that said, I appreciate y'all

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<v Speaker 1>listening again. I will put all of these links in

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