1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: It is important to put the effort into sounding good. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Not just your voice, which should sound good, but also 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: the recording of your voice should sound good. People will 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: forgive lower quality video than they will lower quality audio. 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: Going to do a solo episode today, I know you 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: guys seem to enjoy when I do these solo episodes, 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to this one because this one 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: is kind of a pickup of a blog post that 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: I wrote back in twenty eighteen on will Lucas Co, 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: which is my website, check me out. Yeah, so I 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: wrote this blog post entitled the gear you need if 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: you wanted to build a highly rated podcast, and I'll 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: even link that in the show notes, the link to 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: that blog post, and I'll link everything I'm about to 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: talk about in the blow in the show notes as well. 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: But today I wanted to update that list, so we're 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: going to talk about the gear you need to make 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: a highly successful, highly rated podcast. And so I've been 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: privileged to be podcasting since about twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, 20 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: and previous to that, I did radio since I want 21 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: to say nineteen ninety nine, back in the nineteen hundreds, 22 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, I think actually so I've been doing 23 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: this for a long time. 24 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: It sounds wild to say that I've. 25 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: Been doing some since the nineteen hundreds, but I guess 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: I've been doing it since nineteen hundreds, So. 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: You know, those things correlate. 28 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: So podcasting is a lot like radio, and so having 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: all those years of radio experience translated super duper well 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: into podcasting. And it's not that I want to say 31 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: this because I don't want people get confused like you 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: have to have that sort of radio background to be 33 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: good at podcasting, because you obviously don't. There's so many 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: people who are successful at podcasting that have never been 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: in a radio studio, and so I just wanted to 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: clear that up before I went further. So I talked 37 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: about a lot of things in that blog post that 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: I will rehash today because a lot of the gear 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: that I'm using I still like to use. And there 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: here's what I will say about podcasting, or actually i'll 41 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: start with me and equipment, and so there are three 42 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: four you know, there are certain levels of equipment or 43 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: software I will talk about today that will and I'll 44 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: provide options. So if you want to have the expensive option, 45 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: I'll provide that the middle of the row option, I'll 46 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: provide that, and the inexpensive option, I will write that 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: or say that also. And so, but what's important to 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: know at least about me. I don't know how you work, 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: but this is how I work. I struggle to produce 50 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: creative product, creative outcomes with cheap stuff. It's just really 51 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: difficult for me to do that. And so I remember 52 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: when I was learn I'm a musician, so when I 53 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: was learning to play drums, I needed to learn on 54 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: a quality drum set. Because I'm playing on a cheap 55 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: drum set. I just couldn't get it. And so maybe 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: you don't have that issue. But if I'm learning how 57 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: to do something, I need quality tools to learn how 58 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: to do it. 59 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: Now. 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: Once I got it, then I can go use whatever 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: and I can do it the thing on whatever. But 62 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: it's difficult for me to learn using cheap stuff. And 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: not to say that everything that's inexpensive is cheap, I'm 64 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: just saying that. There are a whole lot of blaw posts, 65 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: a whole lot of podcasts about you know, you can 66 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: do certain things just using your phone, and you can 67 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: do certain things, you know, going completely free. And while 68 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: that may be completely true, I don't learn that way. 69 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: It's difficult for me to produce a podcast just using 70 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: my phone, although that is extremely popular, I see need 71 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: to say popular. It's possible you can produce a podcast 72 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: just using your phone. Now, with that said, I don't 73 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: know anybody who has a super successful podcast and just 74 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: does it using their phone, and so you can start 75 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: that way. And I think it's necessary to get reps 76 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: in by using the tools that you have at your 77 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: disposal and not investing a whole bunch of money or 78 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of things into something that you're not 79 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: going to be serious about anyway. So I do think 80 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: there's value in using the tools that you already have 81 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: at your exposal. But I think it's more important to 82 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: prove to yourself and to the world that you are 83 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: serious and that you're going to do this thing before 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: you have all the dollars invested into it. 85 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: So I think it's. 86 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: More important to do it that way, and more so 87 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: proving that you are in this to win it, versus 88 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: thinking that you're going to scale a big podcast just 89 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: using a limited amount of tools. I just don't know 90 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: people who do that, and so I'm just being honest. 91 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: With y'all. So we talk about that, talk about us, you. 92 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: Know, setting up your phone and doing things, you know, 93 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: talking into the audio recorder. Start that way, completely fine, 94 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: and I encourage you to do that. I will advise 95 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: people to do that, But it's not necessarily again to 96 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: belabor the point, and unintentionally, it's not necessarily because I 97 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: believe that you're gonna win that way. 98 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: I just think that it. 99 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: Is an important step to proving that you are serious 100 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: about this. So what I'm saying that all that to 101 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: say is I did mention I have a radio background, 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: and so I had the privilege or else. I have 103 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: a marketing and video production company, so I have the 104 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: privilege of already having a lot of the equipment. When 105 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: I decided to go and start doing a podcast, already 106 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: had a bunch of equipment. I already had computers, I 107 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: already had keyboards and instruments, and I already had recording devices. 108 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: And so for me, like that's just a playground that 109 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: I have the privilege to play in. And so not 110 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: everybody has that. And so again we're gonna talk about 111 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: all these tools. So I want to start here talking 112 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: about just that very thing, recording software, and so I'm 113 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: going to give you a couple of different levels. Most 114 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: of all of these things that I'm going to talk 115 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: about today, I have, and I'm even gonna do a 116 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: video version of this podcast, so you'll be able to 117 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: check this out on YouTube and actually see all the stuff. 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: But I record, I'm start with the higher end stuff, 119 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: and then I'll talk about the middle of the row, 120 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: and then I'll talk about the inexpensive end or free options. 121 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: I record using Apple Logic Pro, and so I record 122 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: using that because I learned how to record using things 123 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: like pro Tools and Apple Logic, and so if I 124 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: were to start over again, there are way more tools 125 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: available on the market today that you can use to record, 126 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: especially recording yourself and or you know, guests, if you're 127 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: going to have a guest podcast. There are way more 128 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: things on the market today because podcasting is way bigger 129 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: than it was when I started that. Are you know 130 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: these things are available to you, and are you know 131 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: you can amazon it? You'll have it tomorrow. But Apple 132 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: Logic Pro is one of the things that I record, 133 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: the only thing I pretty much record or I should 134 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: say edit with, because I records using a couple of 135 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: different things but editing, particularly I record using. 136 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: Apple Logic Pro is powerful. 137 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: It does way more than than it's necessary to podcast 138 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: because it's designed for you know, audio production in a 139 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: big way, So you can do everything from scoring movies 140 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: on it to doing you know, music making beats on it. 141 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: But just to be clear, it's very powerful also for 142 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: recording your voice and voices of people you may be 143 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: interviewing on your show. So what's important to me is 144 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: that I have an interface that is very easy to use. 145 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: And so sometimes, because I've been doing this for a 146 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: long time, I will go through and you know, when 147 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm recording, I can see the waveform of my voice, 148 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: and so I've been doing this so long, I can 149 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: look get the waveform and find things that don't make 150 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: sense because I know how a voice should look in 151 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 1: wave form. And so when I see a quick little 152 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: spike in the audio and there's not something anything to 153 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: the left or right of it, that's probably either a 154 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: click in a voice something like that, or something like that, 155 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: and I can just go and quickly edit that out 156 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: super duper fast without even listening back to it, cause 157 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: I know what it looks like. Is I've been doing 158 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: this for a long time. So Aple Logic Pro I 159 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 1: believe right now is like two hundred bucks. 160 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: You can get it. 161 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: And what's cool about it is it's not like most 162 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: software anymore where you're paying monthly for. It's like a 163 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: subscription that never ends. Like once you buy Apple Logic, 164 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: you have Apple Logic and you don't have to have 165 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: a subscription necessarily. So I'm actually, you know, in I 166 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: kind of don't like that about today's world, especially as 167 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: a consumer, maybe a producer, but not as a consumer. 168 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: Having you can't just buy software you know, so often anymore, 169 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: y there's a subscription for which is whack. 170 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: But I digress. 171 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: So if you don't want to spend that much on 172 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: an audio editor and or recorder, because you can do 173 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: both in Apple Logic. You have things like Adobe Audition, 174 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: which I also have, I just don't use it because 175 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't love I shouldn't say because of people from 176 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: Adobe listening to this. I just I'm not a big 177 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: Adobe fan, and I kind of see Adobe a lot 178 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: like I see a lot of Microsoft products. They just 179 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: don't work for the way my brain works. Apple products 180 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: work way better for the way my brain works. But 181 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: with I said, I do have Adobe's Creative Cloud because 182 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: my video production team works a lot in Premiere and 183 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: it's the only reason I have Adobe Creative Cloud because 184 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: even like the designs I want to have anymore, I 185 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: can do a lot of that in Canva. And so 186 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: Adobe Creative Cloud comes with Adobe Audition, which is a 187 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: doll which means digital audio workstation. Adobe Audition is a 188 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: doll which you can can use to record and edit 189 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: your voice and the voices of your guests, and you 190 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: can do that very easily. Again, it comes as part 191 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: of the Creative Cloud. So if you have Adobe Creative Cloud, 192 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: you can probably already download this as part of the 193 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: suite of tools you have. So I mean you get 194 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: Adobe Premiere, you get Adobe Photoshop Illustrator, all these things, 195 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: and an audition depending on which level of the Creative 196 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: Cloud you subscribe to from Adobe Audition from Adobe. I'm sorry, 197 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: but as part of the Creative Cloud. There's different versions 198 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: of this, especially if you're in school, you can get 199 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: a discount for the Creative Cloud, but you know there 200 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: are versions where you can get like twenty one dollars 201 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: a month and you can get Adobe Audition for that. 202 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: On the free side, there's programs like Audacity, which I've 203 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: used before. Again, it's kind of a scaled back version 204 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: of both Apple Logic and Audition, but for the most part, 205 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: for most people, it will work and it's free. And 206 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: so it's an open source audio editing you know software, 207 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: and so it's free to use. You can learn it 208 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: pretty quickly, and you can export your audio edit your 209 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: audio record into it, you know, and we'll talk about 210 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: the tools you'll need to record into it in a moment, 211 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: but you can do all that with Audacity and it's free. 212 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: And then going from there we talk about hardware recorders. 213 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: So I mentioned. 214 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: Recording software when I'm talking about Apologic, Audition and Audacity, 215 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: but I pretty I don't record into software often. Right 216 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: right now, I'm recording into software because I'm not interviewing anybody. 217 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: But if i am interviewing somebody, I'm going to use 218 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: an external recorder just because of the way my setup 219 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: is designed. And if you ask twenty different people on 220 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: podcasting setups, you will get twenty different answers. I'm telling 221 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: you what Lucas does, and so I've been doing this 222 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: for in my own experience for a long time. 223 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: This is what I do. 224 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: It works for me, and it probably would work for 225 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: you also, But external recorders. The most important thing you 226 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: learn when you start recording audio or video or writing documents. 227 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: Is saving it. Because what you. 228 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: Will find is when you have a machine that is 229 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: doing you know where you input the work into the machine. 230 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: If you don't save it, you will lose work. And 231 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: it raised your hand. If you've ever lost work, you 232 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: see technology before. And so I like to use external 233 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 1: recorders because if I'm recording directly into matter of fact, 234 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: while I'm saying that I'm gonna save this, which I 235 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: can do while I'm recording, and then I have to 236 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: stop and actually even to the program crash, it will 237 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: likely save an AUTOSI, an auto save version. So it's 238 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: less likely I will lose it if my computer crash 239 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: right now or the software crash, but it's still possible. 240 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: So going back to hardware, I personally am a big 241 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: fan of recording into a dedicated device. And the reason 242 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: why is because again I'm gonna say this a hundred times, 243 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: I've been doing this a long time, and when you've 244 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: been doing certain things for a long time, there you 245 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: develop these habits or ticks because of the things you've 246 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: experienced to where you don't like to do things other ways. 247 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: And the reason I don't like to record directly into 248 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: computers is because computers do crash. Not that other hardware 249 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: does not crash, but through hardware is probably only doing 250 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: one thing. It's just accepting your audio and it's recording it. 251 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: That's probably all it's doing. Your computer is doing probably 252 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: twenty thirty forty one hundred other things at the same time, 253 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: is trying to record your stuff. Hear your stuff, record 254 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: your stuff, display your stuff, all all of those things 255 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: and even more stuff. You probably got tabs open in 256 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: the background, and all these things open up more gateways 257 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: for things. 258 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: To go wrong. 259 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: And so I prefer to record using an external device 260 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: that is just doing what I'm asking you to do. 261 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: Record. 262 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: So I record, for the most part, especially when I'm 263 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: doing an interview, I record using a zoom Age six, 264 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: which is a six track portable recorder. I can carry 265 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: it with this little case. It's like a size of 266 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: a book, and the case of the size of a book. 267 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: The device is half the size of a book with 268 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: wise at least, and I can plug different microphones into it, 269 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: so I can add six different tracks, and so if 270 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm interviewing somebody, I can be interviewing several different people 271 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: at one time, and each of them have their own volume. 272 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: So let's say I'm sitting in front of three other 273 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: people and one person talks really really loud, other person 274 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: talks really really quietly. I can turn the person whose 275 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: voice is really quiet up louder and while keeping the 276 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: person who talks loud their volume down lower, recording them 277 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: that way because you know you want independent So I've 278 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: used to it when I was didn't have a lot 279 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: of money. I was trying to record using you know, 280 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: one singular input, and you can control the various volumes 281 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: people talk at because everybody's being recorded to one channel 282 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: and so you can't like splice out one person's voice 283 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: from another. But if you're recording on different tracks and 284 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: then you import that audio into a doll like Adobe 285 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: or you know final cut sorry Logic like I use, 286 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: then you can see everybody's voice on their independent channel, 287 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: and I can make tweaks to your voice without touching mind. 288 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: So it's super super important and also has phantom power, 289 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: which means I can plug a microphone into it that 290 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: is not necessarily powered itself. It's not like I can't 291 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: unplug it into a wall. But this microphone is just 292 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: a microphone and it needs power from some source. And 293 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: so the Zoom eighty six has phantom power on it, 294 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: which is what it's called when you need the power 295 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: a microphone, so it will provide the power your microphone 296 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: needs to be able to accept your voice. And you're 297 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: recording directly to an SD card, so the audio is 298 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: not being record record it to the device. You are 299 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: putting in another SD card into the device which it's 300 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: recording to. 301 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: So it's another. 302 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: Level there of security for the audio that you are 303 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: interested in capturing. The device I don't have, but I 304 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: think it is a really really cool device. Is a 305 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: road Caster Pro. I've used it, I've seen other people 306 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: use it. It's amazing for podcasts recording. It's pretty much 307 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: a whole podcast studio in one. And what I love 308 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: about the road Caster Pro is not only can you 309 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, use Bluetooth with it, but it has programmable 310 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: sound pads. So let's say you are, you know, recording 311 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: a podcast where you want to have sound effects. You know, 312 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: these are just pads that you can trigger at any 313 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: moment and give yourself like an audience clap or laugh 314 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: or you know, a trumpet or a fire truck horn, 315 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: and you can program all these sound effects into it 316 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: and trigger them, you know, at the push of a button, 317 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: and all of that stuff happens in the recording in 318 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: real time. 319 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: Suber super cool. And then the inexpensive route, I mean. 320 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: So I should go back. Actually, so the zoom A 321 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: six which I use, is about three hundred and fifty bucks. 322 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: The road Castered Pro a little bit more expensive. That's 323 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: about six hundred dollars. 324 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: Today. 325 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: There are different versions of it, so you don't have 326 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: to have the Pro, but the the task Cam DRO five, 327 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: which I have, also is one hundred dollars. And the 328 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: task Cam what's cool about it, it's compact, it's more affordable. 329 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: It's about one hundred dollars, and it has microphones built 330 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: into it, so stereo microphones which are built into it, 331 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: so you can legit, just pull out the device, hold 332 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: it in your hand, and record people right into the device, 333 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: so you don't even need an external microphone because they're 334 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: built into it. And it also records into a Nest card. 335 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: So it's a great choice for people who are beginning 336 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: and just trying to figure out if podcasting is for 337 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: them or if you just don't want to spend a 338 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: bunch of money on this equipment and you just got 339 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: something saying you gotta get it out. Rove is a 340 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: good solution for you. So let's talk about microphones, because 341 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: I did talk about this on. 342 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: The blog posts. Because the each. 343 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: Of the microphones I'm about to mention to you I 344 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: have now, and the first one, which is the more 345 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: expensive one, I did not have when I wrote the 346 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: blog post, but it is the Sure SM seven B. 347 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: It's like a four hundred dollars microphone, and I love 348 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: this microphone. It's my favorite microphone out of everyone that 349 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: I have. It is because it's excellent for vocals spoken word, 350 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily designed for much anything else than 351 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: that it is. 352 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: Designed for voices. 353 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: I'm actually not even using that microphone in this moment, 354 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: but I love the microphone not only because it sounds amazing, 355 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: but it also looks amazing when you are recording and 356 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: recording video at the same time a low profile, it's 357 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: kind of stocky. It's just it's a beautiful microphone to 358 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: look at. And then the one I'm actually recording on 359 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: right now is a microphone I've had, almost, if not 360 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: since I started doing podcasts at all. I think I've 361 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: had this microphone since like the the two thousands, like 362 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: the first decade of the generation. So the road in 363 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: T one, which I'm recording on right now, is the 364 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: studio microphone. 365 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 2: It's super dupe. 366 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I've had to think for a long time. 367 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: Its super duper durable. I don't beat it up, cause 368 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, I take care of my stuff. But it's 369 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: also good for musicians. So I talked about the uh 370 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: SM seven B, which is great for vocals. The NT one, 371 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: which I'm recording to right now, is versatile, so you 372 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: can use it for audio I'm sorry now audio. You 373 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: can use it for vocals and if you're trying to 374 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: sing into it, if you're trying to record UH acoustic 375 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: instruments into it. You can use this NT one also, 376 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: But it sounds amazing too. It's just not it's a 377 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: it's a studio microphone, so it's not as necessarily designed 378 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: for people who are just doing podcasts like the SM 379 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: seven B is. If you're doing spoken word, that'sh your microphone. 380 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: But you can also do this with the Sindheiser E 381 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: eight thirty five, which you also have, and we actually 382 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: use that microphone as the general house microphone. 383 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: For Lucille's, which is my jazz club that I have. 384 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: And so the eaight thirty five is a vocal microphone also, 385 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: but it's super duper rugged. I cannot tell you how 386 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 1: many times that I've seen that microphone dropped. I mean, 387 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: we have like ten of them, but I've seen them dropped, 388 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: beat up, you know, these things get dinged up. They 389 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: are great for live performers and even in person interviews 390 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: because if you're out on the streets and you're doing 391 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: in person interviews, you're probably gonna beat the mic up. 392 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: A little bit. But the EA thirty five, so. 393 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Like one hundred dollars microphone, still sounds amazing, travels super 394 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: duper well, and it just it just handles rough environments 395 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: way way well, way more well than like they rolled 396 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: in T one ever would because it's just not designed 397 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: for traveling that way. It's a studio microphone. It's designed 398 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: to be mounted and left alone. So that's it on microphones. 399 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: And again, I will put all this stuff in the 400 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: show notes, and I'm probably even update the blog post 401 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: to to give you a new version of that since 402 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: it was sick. Ke here, since I did the last one. 403 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 1: So let's talk about interfaces because sometimes people believe, hey, 404 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: I have a computer and I have a microphone, I'm 405 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: ready to rock. Well that depends because certain microphones, your 406 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: computer can't read the audio, and so we're gonna talk 407 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: about that because you need an audio interface. You need 408 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: something that goes that sits in between the microphone and 409 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: the computer, and that's called an audio interface. It converts 410 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: the analog signal of your voice, which your microphone can accept, 411 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: into a digital signal that your computer can process. Often 412 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: they also improve sound quality. But the point of the 413 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: interface is to translate. It's the translator. It's the person 414 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: that if you go to a different country, they speak 415 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: a different language. The translator is the person that sits 416 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: in between you guys, hearing what you say, translating it 417 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: for them to understand. So the interface is the translator. 418 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: So I'm speaking, and I'm speaking analog because my voice 419 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: is an analog tool and then or analog sound maybe 420 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: that's a better way to say it. Analog sound. My 421 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: computer can't read my voice, and so the interface does that. 422 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: The Focus right. Scarlet two I too is a device 423 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: that I have. It's popular, it's easy to use, super 424 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: high quality sound. I can put two microphones into it. 425 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: I can put instruments into it, and it's super great 426 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: for podcasters people who are recording at home, and it's reliable. 427 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: You know, it's very hard to not get right because 428 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: it's designed to be simple and it has fanom power 429 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: on it, which I also mentioned about the Zoommate six. 430 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: But if I'm recording directly in my computer, which I 431 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: want to do sometimes like today, I can just use 432 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: the audio interface and it can translate the NT one 433 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: which I'm using as a microphone, into something the computer 434 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: logic can read. So to I two, which is the 435 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: Focus by Scarlet super duer popular. This one's like one 436 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty bucks. Then there's like the Bearringer Euphoria. 437 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: I particularly talk about the UMC two zero two HD. 438 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: And the reason I'm bringing this one up and there 439 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: are other options Barringer provides, is because I want to 440 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: kind of give it like an Apple to Apple. So 441 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 1: this one also has the two inputs, so I can 442 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: put two microphones into it if I'm talking to somebody 443 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: on my episode. I like Bearringer products for beginners because 444 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: they are designed pretty durably, pretty simple, and they try 445 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: to give you the bells and whistles that more expensive 446 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: tools give you, just without the costs. So obviously they're 447 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: not made with as high grade mechanicals or materials, I 448 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: should say. 449 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: But they're good. They're really good. 450 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: And so if you don't want to spend two times 451 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: the price a beer injury product will work super well. 452 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean that they're not quality things, they're 453 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: just not you know, their budget contest. 454 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 455 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: Okay, then we could talk about this also because I 456 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: mentioned the point of a an interface is to give 457 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: you the ability to translate. It's the mediator between your 458 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: voice and the computer. There are some microphones which are 459 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: digital microphones, and I have the Blue Yetti also which 460 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: I like that microphone a lot. I don't use it 461 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: when I'm recording the guests, but I use it if 462 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm just talking into the computer and just need to 463 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: record something real quick. It's more of like my you know, 464 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: on the fly, Hey I got to record something. 465 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: Keep it moving. And so the U it's a USB microphone. 466 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: It eliminates the need for interface altogether because it's just 467 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: got a USB connection and it's plug and play. You 468 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: don't have to download any software to use it. You know, 469 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: you plug it in, it's ready to rock. And it 470 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: was double bato YETI is. It also has a headphone jack, 471 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: so you can hear directly what's coming out, and so 472 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: you you could plug your headphones into the computer and 473 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: hear what it's hearing. But you can also plug right 474 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: into the microphone to hear what you can your microphone 475 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: is hearing super dope and that you ADDI YETI is 476 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: somewhere like one hundred and thirty bucks somewhere around there. 477 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: And again for I said this about five times. I'm 478 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: gonna put all these links in the show notes. 479 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: Storage. 480 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 1: I mentioned saving to you a minute ago, and it 481 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: is saving. What is the point of creating if you 482 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: can't save it? And there have been many heartaches I've 483 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: had because I produced something that was beautiful and it 484 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: did not save and it's lost forever. Reliable storage solutions 485 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: is of utmost importance. And you don't want to just 486 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: store things in equipment or on a computer that is vulnerable, 487 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: and so you want to record things in this stored 488 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: preferably in more than one place, because just to have 489 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: less points of fault. And so if anything ever happened 490 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: in your computer, or you ran out of room, or 491 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: you need to free up space or all the other things, 492 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: you have your media your content stored on a device. 493 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: So even if you are using the computer to store 494 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: your stuff, highly recommend also recording it off the computer 495 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: in a device like the Lace Rugged USBC drive, which 496 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: I use. I have a four teara byte one. I 497 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: think I have a couple four teara byte ones. There 498 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: are bigger ones. 499 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: Like eight terabytes. I just have a couple of four. 500 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: Teabyte ones because that's really all I needed for I'm 501 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: not personally storing a lot of video online. My team 502 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: does on their but they have NAS devices. But I 503 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: am storing most of my audio files on one of 504 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: these Lacey Rugged devices. Now, the important thing is this space, obviously, 505 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: and typically when I'm recording an audio only podcast, the 506 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: audio each my voice and the guest voice might each 507 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: be If it's a half an hour thirty five to 508 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: forty five minute podcast, my audio might be one hundred 509 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: and eighty megabytes. Their audio may be one hundred and 510 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: eighty megabytes. I got plenty of space for several seasons 511 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 1: of a podcast in afford hereabout device and it's rugged 512 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: and so there are no moving parts in a Lacey 513 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: rugged device. You know, hard drives back in the day 514 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: used to have a little you know, disc in them 515 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: that would spin and you could hear them when you 516 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: plug them in, and they would store your stuff pretty 517 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: much on a CD. That's pretty much like what it was. 518 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: These Lacey devices are a solid state there SSDs, so 519 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: there are no moving parts in the laceys, which makes 520 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: it way more secure and less vulnerable. And as a 521 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: byproduct of being having no moving parts, it's also faster 522 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: and so highly recommend. 523 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 2: The lace rugged drives. 524 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: Then we can talk about things like Dropbox and Google Drive, 525 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: which are both sweet. I have subscriptions to both which 526 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: over time I will probably move all my. 527 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: Stuff over to the drop Box. I just had Drive 528 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: for a very long time, so it's lots of to 529 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 2: move over. 530 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: But I like Dropbox because a lot of version control. 531 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: I can set a configuration for who can do what 532 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: inside the drive, and I can reverse back in history 533 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: to see, you know, if somebody change something, I can 534 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: go back to the previous version. I like, I'm giving 535 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: you versions drawn by two different ways, but you get it. 536 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 1: I love that also, automatic backups, file sharing, all those things, 537 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: obviously because it's in the cloud that can so synchronized 538 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: things between devices. 539 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: Google Drive is. 540 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: Also dope too, and it integrates into your other Google services, 541 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: so if you're using you know, Google Email or Google Calendar, 542 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: all these different things. 543 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: It's easy to use. 544 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: So you just take your pick whichever one you like better. 545 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm not here to you know, k for either one 546 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: of them, but whichever one you find that you like, 547 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: Trybox or Google Drive. I support them both because I 548 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: have subscriptions to both. And then you know, you have 549 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: things like just a regular SD card which you can 550 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: store your stuff. 551 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: On very cost very affordably. Pretty much. 552 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: What I would say is you don't want to leave 553 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: your stuff on an SD card. They are small, and 554 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: there is something to say about things being too small, 555 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: especially when you're trying to store them for a long time. 556 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: It's a lot easier to lose it. 557 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: So I would recommend using an SD card to save 558 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: things only for a short term. Just don't recommend saving 559 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: things for a long time on a SD card. So 560 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: now you got this amazing podcast recorded and you gotta 561 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: distribute it to the world. How're you gonna get it 562 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: out there? And so from there, I for a long 563 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: time used libsn to host and distribute my podcast And 564 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: so when I started up ten Podcasts, which was the 565 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: one I had before Black Tech, Green Money i S, 566 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: I used lipsyn And so Lipsen has a variety of 567 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: different plans, from plans that are you putting out one 568 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: episode a month, you know, very small size, to ones 569 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: where you putting it out daily and you need analytics. 570 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: Lipsyn has all of that stuff, and it starts like 571 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: five bucks a month, just again depending on which one 572 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: you wanna use. 573 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: And it's also easy to get. 574 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: Integrated with Google, Google's Podcasts platform and Apple Podcasts, cause 575 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: it kind of walks you through how to get Just 576 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: cause you put it on lips it doesn't mean you're 577 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: automatically on those platforms. You have to connected them, and 578 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: lipsn makes it easy to do that. One I have 579 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: not used is Podbean, and I only mention it because 580 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: I know other people who have used Podbean. I just 581 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: don't know a lot about it, but it is I'm 582 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: sure a lot like lipsyns. From when I'm told very 583 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: user friendly, but that's pretty much all I can say 584 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: about Bobby because I don't use it. The other one 585 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: I have used also is SoundCloud. It's probably good in 586 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: the way that you have access to a directory and 587 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: so you're part of a community with other people podcasting. 588 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 1: So it's probably easier to be found on SoundCloud versus 589 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: like libsn because there's like not a community of people 590 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: searching on Libsyn. That's more of like a distribution platform, 591 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: and so SoundCloud people are going there to find things 592 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: that they didn't produce. So I don't want to go 593 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: listen to stuff, So let me go to SoundCloud and 594 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: type in podcasts on politics, podcasts on technology, and you 595 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: will find podcasts on politics and podcasts on technology. If 596 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: you go to SoundCloud, it's not just a platform, but 597 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: also you can be part of a community of people 598 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: and be found there. And so Libsyn, pod being, lips 599 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: and pod being and SoundCloud. You know, I'm a Lipson 600 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: fan and SoundCloud fan, just depending on what you're trying 601 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: to do. But today we use a platform that's more 602 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: developed for corporations that have advertising partners, So I heart 603 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 1: handles all that stuff for me today. But Lipsyn is 604 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: super dope if you want to go that route, and 605 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: I highly recommend it. For video, Let's say you are 606 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: going to actually I'm only going to talk like for 607 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: a second about video because most of the stuff I 608 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: talked about today has to do with audio podcasts, and 609 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: so if you want to talk about video, well, let's 610 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: do that for like one minute. And so today we 611 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: record videos, especially if I'm doing if I'm recording with 612 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: somebody remotely. We no longer record via Zoom, which we 613 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: used to do, which that's also one of the options. 614 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: You can get a Zoom account for like fifteen bucks 615 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: a month, but we use Riverside. 616 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: Now. 617 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: We use riverside because riverside allows the video file to 618 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: be taken from the device. So here's what happens. So 619 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: when you are on like a Zoom call, you might 620 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: look amazing to yourself because you're not looking at yourself 621 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: via the Internet. You're looking at yourself from your camera, 622 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: and the person looking at you, who's in another house, 623 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: another office, another state, is looking at you, however, via 624 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: the Internet, which means what you see is not what 625 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: they see. You look super clear to yourself. You don't look, however, 626 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: how you look to them. Riverside is different. The riverside 627 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: what happens is it's recording on your local device. So 628 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: what you are recording is what your computer camera or 629 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: your external camera sees, not what is uploaded the web 630 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: or streamed, I should say, so you get a much 631 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: higher quality audio I mean video feed. And so before 632 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: you close down a riverside recording, you gotta wait before 633 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: all the video gets uploaded, because again it's recording from 634 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: your device, not from the stream. That makes sense, Okay, 635 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: I think you got it. So riverside is dope in 636 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: that way. And your guests also they have they're being 637 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: recorded on their side, so it's dope that way. Then 638 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: if you just want to see somebody, but you're not 639 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: necessarily recording. 640 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: But it's you get a better. 641 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: Audio recording if you guys can see each other, because 642 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: there's other context clues you get by seeing their face. 643 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: So Google meet is free, I mean, is you can 644 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: use that just because if you want to. 645 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: Get good quality. 646 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: You can also screen share and do stuff like that, 647 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: but I don't I've never used screen sharing in a podcast, 648 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: but you can do it. I've actually never even recorded 649 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: a Google Meet, so maybe you can record a Google meet. 650 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's free and you can see 651 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: each other and you can at least you capture the 652 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: audio from there. So those are your options. On the 653 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: video side, we can have another podcast on. 654 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 2: An actual full video. 655 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: Podcast if you want to go that route, which I 656 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: recommend if you can do it. So I say all 657 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: this to say, you know, it is easier than ever 658 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: to have a podcast, a beautiful podcast, and one that 659 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: people want to listen to. And so the important thing 660 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: I mentioned this at the start and I will close 661 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: with this also is the sound matters, and no matter 662 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: what people say about you can start using any tool 663 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: in front of you. It is important to put the 664 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: effort into sounding good, not just your voice which should 665 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: sound good, but also the record of your voice should 666 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: sound good. 667 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: People will forgive lower. 668 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: Quality video, then they will lower quality audio. If you 669 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: have a video that is not the best quality in 670 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: video clarity production, but the audio is still good, you 671 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 1: will continue watching if the content is there. Now, if 672 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: the video is amazing but the audio sounds terrible, you 673 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: may actually turn it off a lot faster because the 674 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: audio sounds like garbage. And so it is important to 675 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: put the work in to get high quality audio even 676 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: before you put the work into getting higher quality video. 677 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: And so I admonish you to do the work in 678 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: that respect. Again, you can use all of these tools. Again, 679 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: I don't know big podcasters who record using a lot 680 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: of the tools they tell y'all that you can use. 681 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: The point is not that, though. The point is that 682 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: you can start and you can get going doing these things. 683 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: But there is a graduation that happens inevitably if you 684 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: start to get good at it and you start to 685 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: get more invested in it. And so if you are 686 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: just starting, I encourage you highly to just start with 687 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: the tools in front of you. Start with your audio 688 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: recorder on your iPhone, Start with you know, one of. 689 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: These subscription services to just software. 690 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: Online that you can edit and use AI and all 691 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: these things to edit your stuff down. I encourage you 692 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: to do that. As the bigger your podcast get, at 693 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: least today, not in a year from now when AI 694 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: gets even more crazy, I would probably have to change 695 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: this whole episode. But for today, there are things that 696 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: you should need to do. Things you need to do 697 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: well in order to have your podcast be coveted by 698 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: the masses. So with all that said, I appreciate y'all 699 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: listening again. I will put all of these links in 700 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: the show notes. You got any questions, you know where 701 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: to give me. 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