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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's Movie podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike, and today we're getting a

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Speaker 1: little bit personal. I'm going to talk about what a

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Speaker 1: Goofy movie means to me. If you're a longtime listener

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Speaker 1: to this podcast, you know I'm a huge fan of it.

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Speaker 1: Disney Plus came out with the documentary. I watched the

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Speaker 1: entire thing. I went back rewatched the movie and I

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Speaker 1: In the movie review, we'll be talking about Sinners, which

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Speaker 1: is directed by Ryan Kugler. I also got to talk

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Speaker 1: to Ryan Kugler about representation and film, so we'll get

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Speaker 1: to that. And in the trailer park, Oh boy, a

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Speaker 1: lot of drama. Another simple favor. It's a sequel that's

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Speaker 1: coming out, has Blake Lively, it has Anna Kendrick. With

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Speaker 1: all that's going on in Oh just a behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes of this movie. Will this movie be able to

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Speaker 1: eclipse all that and rise above and just be good

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Speaker 1: on its own? Or will it be terrible? Thank you

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Speaker 1: for being here, Thank you for being subscribed. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to the movie crew. And now let's talk movies from

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Speaker 1: the Nushville Podcast Network as this is the movie. Pots

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Speaker 1: The documentary I watched was called Not Just the goof

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Speaker 1: It's on Disney Plus. Before I get into what a

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Speaker 1: Goofy movie means to me, what I learned after watching

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Speaker 1: this documentary is that Disney didn't really know what they had.

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Speaker 1: They almost messed up, they almost fumbled the bag, and

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Speaker 1: I would argue, they still don't really know what they

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Speaker 1: have because a Goofy movie has such a big, burning

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Speaker 1: Disney cult classics. Where Disney was when this movie came out.

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Speaker 1: I'll start with the inception of it, because it was

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Speaker 1: in the mid to late eighties, Disney was in what

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Speaker 1: is referred to as the Xerox era, where their animation

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Speaker 1: just wasn't cutting it. It just wasn't making them a

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Speaker 1: The character design was kind of lazy, and overall, the

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Speaker 1: wasn't popping on screen. The movies weren't making money. Even

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Speaker 1: though one of my favorite Disney movies, Oliver and Company,

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Speaker 1: in the Renaissance era that came with movies like Little Mermaid,

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Speaker 1: character who is really only known for his insane wackiness,

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Speaker 1: A Goofy movie is about Max, who has a crush

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Speaker 1: He goes through this big, elaborate scheme to impress her

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Speaker 1: go to this old ratchet possum park, which is funny

431
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: in itself, and they witnessed one of the most horrific

432
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: animatronic shows of all time. And then afterward, Goofy wants

433
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: to get a picture with two of the possums that

434
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: are just hanging there on this branch, and Goofy embarrasses

435
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: Max by also hanging on the branch and everybody just

436
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: laughing at them, and then some random kid drops this

437
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: gem of a line that's a great line, Dork and

438
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: Dork Junior calling Goofy at Dork for wearing the possum

439
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: hat that he bought him at the gift shop, and

440
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: Max for wearing it as well after getting attacked by

441
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: a possum. So those are my top five quotes from

442
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: a Goofy movie, highly inspired about my mom, who also

443
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: loves this movie along with my entire family. We'd watch

444
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: it all the time on VHS until for some reason,

445
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: my cousin decided to borrow it and not an everyday

446
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: normal cousin. My cousin who at the time lived in

447
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: Memphis when we lived in Dallas, outside of Dallas and

448
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: walks the hat. We were watching it and I remember

449
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 1: him saying, Oh, this is hilarious. You have to let

450
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: me borrow it. You have to let me borrow it.

451
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: Bro you live twelve hours away, you live in Memphis.

452
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: You can't ask me to borrow it. And my mom,

453
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: even though knowing we love this movie so much, she

454
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: had us be nice and let him borrow a Goofy

455
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: movie and maybe another movie that I can't remember at

456
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: the moment, but I just remember after that never watched

457
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: a Goofy movie again on VHS because my cousin wanted

458
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,239
Speaker 1: to borrow it. So shout out to my cousin, if

459
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: you still have it, I would like that back, please.

460
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: My top five songs from a Goofy movie, even though

461
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: there might only be six or sive in my top five.

462
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: On the Open Road, that's whenever him and Max are

463
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: first going out on the Open Road. I feel like

464
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: that's probably the song that most critics saw and thought,

465
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: this is dumb and it doesn't really fit all the

466
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: other songs in the movie. I think it's important to it,

467
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: but it has the most TV lovel vibes out of

468
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: everything else. But I still enjoy that scene. But I

469
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: could see now watching it with my movie reviewer eyes.

470
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: At times it feels like maybe they could have had

471
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: a different song here, but it's still nostalgic to me.

472
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: At number four, I have Leicester's Possum Park, which is

473
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: the song that the animatronic possum scene. That was a

474
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: great scene. I still remember my mom also quoting the

475
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: little girl who was in the audience just loving it,

476
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: laughing the entire time. Great song, a little terrifying, but

477
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: great song. Number three, which is a great Top three

478
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: after Today, which is the big opening number at the

479
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: beginning of the movie when Max is declaring that after

480
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: today's life is going to change because Roxanne is going

481
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: to be all about home. That is just a fantastic

482
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: sequence of animation and music. It also really speaks to

483
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: how much I love summer. As a kid, I lived

484
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: for summer. Last day of school was my favorite day

485
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: of school because I cherished every moment at home during

486
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: the summer. There was a period in time where I

487
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: tried to see how long I could go without wearing

488
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: a shirt in the summer, because that was me saying,

489
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: that's like total relaxation mode. And I think I made

490
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: it almost a week. But I love summer. And that

491
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: is what that scene said to me at number two

492
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: is standout, which at the very beginning of the movie

493
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: that just has like a different feeling to me as

494
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: a kid, Like that scene's felt so big to me.

495
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: Rewatching it now, it doesn't feel as big to me obviously,

496
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: but still I love the lighting and the animation, especially

497
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: when you see Max on stage and he has the

498
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: big shades and you have like the static behind him.

499
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: That is just such a well orchestrated scene and the

500
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: song fits it perfect, and that is pretty much the

501
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: reoccurring power line song that is played until the ending.

502
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: At number one is Eye to Eye, which I think

503
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: is one of the best Disney songs of all time.

504
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: Won't get the credit it deserves, but that song is

505
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: a hit. They made a hit for this movie. I

506
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: think if you would have put that song on the

507
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: radio in nineties, it would have been a hit. I

508
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: at number one and also would rank in my top

509
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: ten Disney songs of all time, and for my final

510
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: top five, the top five foods I wanted to eat

511
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: from a Goofy movie. At number five, there's a moment

512
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: where Max and Goofy are having a good time. They

513
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: go to an amusement park and Max gets this amazing

514
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: combination of junk food and I always remember wanting that

515
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: chili dog that he had on that plate. Goofy eats it,

516
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: then he gets sick on a run, but that always

517
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: look really good to me. At number four, I have

518
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: the shadowass. I always wanted to get cheese and a

519
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: can as a kid. Well, my mom would never buy

520
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: it for me because she thought it was too expensive.

521
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: She's like, we're just getting regular cheese. And I tried

522
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: it later, probably either a friend's house, maybe when I

523
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: was like twelve or thirteen, and I was really underwhelmed.

524
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: I was let down at the fact that it was

525
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: not as delicious as they made it look in this movie.

526
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: I would love that leaning tower of cheese that I

527
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: wish I could have eaten at. Number three was the

528
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: High Dad soup. Not only did I love any character

529
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: based soup as a kid, but any character based mac

530
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: and cheese. I was a big fan of the SpongeBob

531
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: mac and cheese, also the Pokemon mac and cheese. Any

532
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: kind of noodle you could fit into a letter or

533
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: a character, I was all about. The soup looked delicious.

534
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: It also really sparked my interest in cigarette lighters. I

535
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: don't think I knew what they were until I watched

536
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: this movie, and cars don't have them anymore, but I

537
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: remember we had a ninety four Bronco that had a

538
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: cigarette lighter, and after watching this movie, I was like, oh,

539
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: I know what this does now. I pushed it in

540
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: and then I popped it out, and I did not

541
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: realize how hot it gets so quickly, and I burned

542
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: myself with it. So I still don't think you could

543
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: heat an actual can of soup with this, but I

544
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: learned the hard way that those things get hot really quick,

545
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: and sometimes that is why they have to edit out

546
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: scenes in movies, because dumb kids like me try things

547
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: they learned from movies. At number two is the diner.

548
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: Breakfast movies in general had me believing that in my

549
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: life I would be eating a whole lot more of

550
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: breakfast foods in the shape of faces because Max gets

551
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: a plate of food at this diner. The eggs are

552
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: the eyes and the bacon is the smile. And I thought, man,

553
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: at some point in my life, I'm gonna go to

554
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: all these restaurants where I get egg guys and bacon smiles.

555
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever had egg euyes and bacon smiles.

556
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: But a Goofy movie had me believing that it'd be

557
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: in my diet a whole lot more than it ever was.

558
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: But add number one, and this would also go in

559
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: my list of my top ten movie foods of all time.

560
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: The motel pizza that they get with that insane cheese pool.

561
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: Max and PJ are pulling this pizza out of the

562
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: box and it's like, oh my gosh, that looks so

563
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: good in this random motel room with the water bed

564
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: and the neon kind of lighting that looks like maybe

565
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: the there's a lava lamp in the corner. But all

566
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: I could think about as a kid was like, oh man,

567
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: that looks so good. How do they make it look

568
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: so delicious? And the sad thing is that type of

569
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: pizza just doesn't exist where the cheese looks that rich

570
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: and thick. So that is why a Goofy movie means

571
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: so much to me. If you were a fan and

572
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: still haven't seen the documentary, I still highly recommended on

573
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: Disney Plus I shared some of the big things, but

574
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: I still think there's a lot you get out of it.

575
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: Now that the movie is thirty years old, I think

576
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: the question you have to have is should they make

577
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: another one? Which they did make a sequel. An extremely

578
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: goofy movie that I also enjoyed is when Mac goes

579
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: to college. Extreme sports were huge at that time for

580
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: me too. I was all into Tony Hawk, tried skateboarding

581
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: myself and my cousin broke his ankle different cousin, by

582
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 1: the way, and my mom said, no, you're not skateboarding anymore.

583
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: But still love the sequel. But I think that is

584
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: the question because in twenty twenty five, Max would be

585
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: thirty years older. He would be forty four years old

586
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: probably what Goofy was in this movi. Oh, I have

587
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: to imagine he was probably in his thirties. Thirty was

588
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: seemed way older back in the nineties. I was like, Wow,

589
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: you're thirty years old. Or maybe it's just because now

590
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm thirty three, gonna be thirty four this year that

591
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Oh, thirty four is not old. Maybe it's

592
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: a lot of kids still, But thirty four in the nineties,

593
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: just the way it was depicted on screen, just felt

594
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: a lot older. Like Costanza in Seinfeld was like my

595
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: age now, and he looks like he was fifty eight.

596
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: But you have to wonder, is it time for another

597
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: Goofy movie? Will it be announced by the time I

598
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: put this episode out, Because sometimes that's how it happens.

599
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: I started talking about something and not knowing it's actually

600
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: a thing where you have Max now in the position

601
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: where Goofy was not being able to identify with this kid.

602
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: I have to imagine if they were to make another one,

603
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: Max would have a girl just to kind of create

604
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: a different dynamic, kind of be like a girl meets

605
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: world situation. And then Goofy is the Grandpa. I think

606
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: there's a story there power line on his reunion tour.

607
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't even care care how much of

608
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: a cash grab that would be. I think that would

609
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: be monumental. And I think now with the fan base

610
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: that this movie has, having older audiences that were a

611
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: fan of the original who now have kids, that's not

612
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: as straight to Disney plus release, that is a put

613
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: it out in theaters make up for fumbling the first movie.

614
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: I would gladly contribute to that cash grab. So that

615
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: is what a Goofy movie means to me. I'll come

616
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: back and give my spoiler free review of Sinners and

617
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: talk to the director, Ryan Cougler before I get into

618
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: this week's review. Here is me talking with director Ryan Kugler,

619
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: who not only directed Sinners, he also wrote and directed

620
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Black Panther one and two, is currently working on three.

621
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: He did Creed and he's just a really cool guy.

622
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: So here's me and Ryan Kugler. Hey, Ryan, you're one

623
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: of my favorite directors, and I think something that you're

624
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: gonna be remembered for is the representation. I think that

625
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: was huge for me, Like in Black Panther two, having

626
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: the first major Mexican care in the MCU was like amazing.

627
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: Was that something that you set out to do early

628
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: on or something that kind of developed over time?

629
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: The power of representation, It's something that I set out

630
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: to do early on, but it also wasn't something that

631
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: I consciously thought about. Man. Like I grew up in Oakland, California,

632
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: like in the nineties when it was just an incredibly

633
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: diverse city. Man, I wasn't able to travel because I

634
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: didn't have the money too, but I felt like I

635
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: had the whole world right outside my door. You know,

636
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: people from all parts of the world were they and

637
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: they were proud of their cultures, you know what I'm saying.

638
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: And they would share and we would share with each other.

639
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: We were over each other's houses, eating each other's food,

640
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: and listening to each other's music.

641
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: That was how I grew up.

642
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: And when I got enough enough means to travel, and

643
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: I discovered that Oakland really prepared me for what the world.

644
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: What the world was man, you know what I mean.

645
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Speaker 1: I got dropped off in Hong Kong.

646
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: I never forget and I was like, yo, this is

647
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: like being it like being downtown San Francisco. You know

648
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: what I mean, I almost knew my way around, you know.

649
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: And for me, if I have this ability, it's blessing

650
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: to be able to have a camera and write things

651
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: that people that are going to have an opportunity to

652
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: go see. I do fill up a responsibility to do

653
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: my best to present the world as it is, you

654
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I always find that rewarding

655
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: when I'm watching a movie when the world feels like that,

656
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: So I feel like that's my responsibility to continue to

657
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: give that to audiences.

658
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Speaker 1: So it means the world few to share that with me.

659
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Speaker 1: Bro let's get into it now. A spoiler free movie

660
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: review of Sinner, starring Michael B. Jordan, who plays two characters.

661
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: They are called the Smokestack Twins, and they went to

662
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: Chicago to work for al Capone doing some gangster stuff,

663
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: robbing people, butt in bulletin people. And then they decide

664
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: to move back home to the Great State of Mississippi

665
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: and they want to open a juke joint. They bring

666
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: some booze with them from Chicago. They bring some other

667
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: things you're maybe not supposed to have in the nineteen thirties,

668
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: and they buy some property with the idea of starting

669
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: this juke joint to give their community a place where

670
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: they can go spend money, gamble, party, dance, play music,

671
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: play the blues, all these things where they can do

672
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: under a roof, where they can find salvation and not

673
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: be persecuted by anybody, have their own little piece of

674
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: home in Mississippi. But things aren't gonna go as planned,

675
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: because things never go as planned, especially in the nineteen thirties.

676
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: This movie is a supernatural action thriller, and even though

677
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: it does take place in that time period, it doesn't

678
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: feel like a period piece whatsoever, which is always something

679
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: I struggle with And maybe it's because I'm dumb, but

680
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: anytime a movie is set back in the thirties, it's

681
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: always hard for me to get through that just dialogue

682
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: barrier where it feels like people are talking and just

683
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: saying words just like and it's hard for me to

684
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: feel the emotion in a story like that. So oftentimes

685
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't seek out these movies. But you have director

686
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: Ryan Coogler, who is one of my favorite directors right now.

687
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: He has earned that level of respect for me, Like

688
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: who cares about my level of respect and what I think?

689
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: But anything he does, any movie he puts out, I

690
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 1: am gonna go watch it, and this is the fifth

691
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: time he has worked with Michael B. Jordan, frequent collaborators.

692
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: That means these guys know each other. Ryan Coogler can

693
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: probably push Michael B. Jordan in a way that other

694
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: directors can't, and he probably needed a lot out of

695
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: him because Michael B. Jordan's playing two characters, Smoke and Stack,

696
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: the Smoke Stack twins. And it was their way of

697
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: working together that made this movie feel like it was

698
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: fresh and that even though it was set back in

699
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties, the dialogue, the interactions with all the

700
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: other characters felt like it could have been taking place

701
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: right now given some of the wardrobe. But I think

702
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: there's only one other director who has done that in

703
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: recent history, and that is Quentin Tarantino. He does that

704
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: a lot. He goes back in time, rewrites history and

705
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: still makes it feel fresh, adding in maybe some words

706
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: that they probably didn't say back in the thirties. But

707
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: it kind of breaks that barrier a little bit. And

708
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: it's a really fine line to walk because sometimes when

709
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: you do a quote unquote period piece and you have

710
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: little inaccuracies here and there, people want to strangle you

711
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: for it. But in this case it totally makes sense

712
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: because Sinners blends these two different genres, maybe even a

713
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: little bit of three different genres into one movie, and

714
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: it walks this line of here's this element of a

715
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: period piece, but then here's this drama, here's this supernatural thing.

716
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: You have a bit of horror elements in there. And

717
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, where I started to think that

718
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: nobody could create a movie that I'd never seen before,

719
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: and you always hear people wanting to blend genres in

720
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: a film, Ryan Coogler has done it in a way

721
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: that exceeded my expectations, and it is so rare to

722
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: wow me in this way that led me to loving it.

723
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: The movie felt like three different films in one, and

724
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: you just can't get that when going to the movies nowadays.

725
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: Where I was so invested in the Smokestack Twins and

726
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: learning about their backstory, seeing them be ruthless, seeing Michael B.

727
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: Jordan portray two different characters, one who is a little

728
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: bit more ruthless, a little bit more just I'm gonna

729
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: rough you up. I don't care who you are. I'm

730
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: going to prove how hardcore. We are the other who

731
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: has a little bit more empathy and that unravels as

732
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: the film goes along, and two pretty well defined characters,

733
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: which is hard to do. It is also hard to

734
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: make a movie where you have one person playing two

735
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: characters and not have it look weird. And I think

736
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Speaker 1: it's because I spent a lot of time looking at

737
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: the screen trying to pay attention to where Michael B.

738
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: Jordan was there, and the other one was the superimposed

739
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: image of him where they had a stand in and

740
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: probably threw special effects put his face on his body.

741
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: I could kind of point that out from time to time,

742
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: but that's only because I was super hyper focused into it.

743
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: I think, for the most part, this is the best

744
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: I've seen it done, because oftentimes you have scenarios where

745
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: they're placed on two different sides, but you have moments

746
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: where they need to interact, they need to hand a

747
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: cigarette to the other one, and you can't really get

748
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: around that. I will say I did notice different elements

749
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: of the story that allowed the two characters to be

750
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: put into different directions, and I think that just becomes

751
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: a money thing, because the more you spend on having

752
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: them together in close proximity having to interact with each other,

753
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: the more expensive that gets. So that is just clever filmmaking.

754
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: But in no way was that distracting. Thought they did

755
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: a really good job with that. Hailey Steinfeld is fantastic

756
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: in this, and I think people really haven't seen how

757
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: great of an actor she is, And this is one

758
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: of those roles where I was like, Oh, she's actually

759
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: really good at not only doing the Marvel voice acting

760
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: stuff that I think has really put her on to

761
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: another level. Edge of seventeen back in the day was

762
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: one of my favorite coming of age movies, but now

763
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: I got a totally different look what she can do,

764
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: and I love this for her. She was a really

765
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: great addition to this cast. They just had a lot

766
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: of standout performances from everybody involved. So the acting was

767
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Speaker 1: topp tire. The cinematography was topped here. This movie was

768
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: filmed on Imax cameras. It is made for the big

769
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Speaker 1: screen from the first opening scene, which I loved. I

770
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: love a great opening scene, especially when it shot for Imax,

771
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: because you get this really big scope of Mississippi in

772
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties. The movie opens in a very chilling

773
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: way where it starts at the end because the entire

774
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: movie takes place in one day, which is another category

775
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: of film I love. But what you see at the

776
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: very beginning of the movie is actually the ending of

777
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: the movie. So you see one of the characters, Preacher Boy,

778
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: go up to the church. He is just covered in blood,

779
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: looks like he's just been through hell, and he's holding

780
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: a guitar neck that is broken off, and just the

781
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: look of him walking into the church. They have these

782
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: really low angles where you get the entire scope of

783
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: the church. That scene looked fantastic. From the very beginning

784
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: of this movie, I knew I was in for something special,

785
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: and that is exactly what I got. This movie was

786
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: essentially three different movies in one and in twenty twenty five.

787
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: Where I thought there's no way a director could make

788
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: a movie that would include things that I had never

789
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: seen before done in one film, Ryan Kugler shattered that idea.

790
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: I thought everything had been done. I think you could

791
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: still make a great movie. Obviously, otherwise I would not

792
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: be on this podcast right now talking about movies. But

793
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: to go from just an almost straight ahead nineteen thirties

794
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: drama to a supernatural, almost horror esque movie by the

795
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: end of it, and you have these supernatural events happening,

796
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: You have these moments where it even shatters those genres.

797
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: There's these really big expositions where Ryan Coogler makes statements

798
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: on music, makes statements on racial tensions that allow the

799
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: to go into these almost fantasy lands, and the entire

800
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: time I am writing with them, I don't feel it

801
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: ever gets too weird because it always kind of stays grounded.

802
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: Even when it goes very supernatural, very Oh, this is

803
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: kind of starting to feel like a fever dream, it

804
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: still wrangles you in because it keeps that emotion and

805
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: I just haven't been moved by a film like this

806
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: in a really long time. This year it is the

807
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: first time that I started a movie didn't know how

808
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: it was going to get through all these elements, and

809
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: loved it by the end of it. I love the

810
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: journey of all these characters. I think that blending of

811
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: genres is something that I think the big directors can

812
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: do and what is going to keep film alive. That

813
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: is what is going to make it feel like a spectacle,

814
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: something that you want to pay money to go and see,

815
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: because it leaves nothing on the table in an era

816
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: right now where some movies are afraid to take a

817
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: risk because it's going to alienate the audience. It's going

818
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: to become too unmarketable. If you start blending different genres

819
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: of movies, you include the undead, and you include racial tensions,

820
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: and you include fire, and you include shootouts, all things

821
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: can exist and you can make a statement by the

822
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: end of it, which is something Ryan Kugler has always done.

823
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: By the end of a Ryan Kugler film, you were

824
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: gonna have a message that he got across to you.

825
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: Because not only does he make movies that are entertaining,

826
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: not only does he make movies that are a pleasure

827
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: for the eyes, he also makes movies that are so impactful.

828
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Speaker 1: Think back to how much of an impact Black Panther

829
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: had on a young kid watching who had never seen

830
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: a superhero with the color of their skin. That was impactful,

831
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: even for me at that time, where I still was

832
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: probably an adult when that came out. And he did

833
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: it again for me in Black Panther two, where he

834
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: had a Mexican guy playing a villain in a big

835
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: MCU movie. So he's not only great about getting messages

836
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: across in his movies, but also including a very diverse

837
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: cast that has a lasting effect, and I think that

838
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: is something that transcends just making a great movie, is

839
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: making a movie with representation on a scale of a

840
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: big budget movie that is gonna reach a lot of people.

841
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: And I think that's why this one works so well.

842
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: Sinners was just effortlessly entertaining, and you don't have to

843
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: be a big fan of horror movies to enjoy this one.

844
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: I would say, if you are okay with the level

845
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: of gore that you would find in a Walking Dead episode,

846
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: there is a decent amount of blood, but nothing that's

847
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: too overly graphic, which I have kind of an interesting

848
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: relationship with gore and blood because whenever it's in a

849
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: horror movie, I don't care. It doesn't affect me whatsoever.

850
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: But Kelsey loves watching medical dramas, and I think it's

851
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: because those are more realistic, like people getting shot or

852
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: people getting impaled by something, and you have a doctor

853
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: performing surgery where blood is gushing out. That is hard

854
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: for me to watch. That is stressful for me, but

855
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: she finds so much enjoyment in that. On the other hand,

856
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: she can't watch a a horror movie if somebody gets

857
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: like stabbed by Michael Myers or has their head ripped

858
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: off in a horror movie, she can't do it. She

859
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: gets freaked out and scared. But when it comes to sinners,

860
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: it's not really your traditional horror elements. And I think

861
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: sometimes when anybody hears that it's a horror movie, you

862
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: automatically check out because you're like, I don't do scary.

863
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: I think if you give this one a chance, if

864
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: you can handle a decent amount of blood with a

865
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: good little splash of supernatural, I think you can handle

866
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: the gore and scary elements and sinners. As far as

867
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: where it lands on my ranking of Ryan Coogler films,

868
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: it is really hard to beat one, which is Black Panther.

869
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: For me, that movie I feel is going to have

870
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: the biggest legacy. It has the biggest imprint on the MCU,

871
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: and was one that was not only great and entertaining,

872
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: made a bunch of money, but also critically acclaimed. So one,

873
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever going to come down from

874
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: Black Panther. I kind of feel the same way about two,

875
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: which is Creed. That movie reignited the Rocky franchise. It

876
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: really made Michael B. Jordan a mega level star and

877
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: has now spawned well an entire rebooted franchise of all

878
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: the Creed movies that I'm all invested in if they

879
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: decide to make another one, and I hope Ryan Coogler

880
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: returns to direct another Creed movie. Number three. You also

881
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: can't get away from the emotional impact of Black Panther two,

882
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: the passing of Chadwick Boseman, and how that movie not

883
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: only felt like saying goodbye to the Black Panther character,

884
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: but also saying goodbye to him as an actor. That

885
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: top three is gonna be very difficult to crack. And

886
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: I love this movie so much, but can't love it

887
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: more than Black Panther two, can't love it more than

888
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: the first Creed, and I can't love it more than

889
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: Black Panther. But I do love it right there at

890
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: number four. So for sinners, I give it four point

891
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: five out of five smokestacks. It's time to head down

892
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: to movie. Mike Trey Lar Paul. Seven years after the original,

893
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: we are getting a sequel to A Simple Favor came

894
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: out in twenty eight eighteen. Now in twenty twenty five,

895
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: we're getting another Simple Favor and Kendrick is back. Director

896
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: Paul Figue is back. Most importantly, at least right now,

897
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: Blake Lively is back. Blake Lively is a very interesting actor.

898
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: To me, I wasn't a fan of Gossip Girl. I

899
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: know how big that show was. I know that's why

900
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: she was so famous. I don't feel like, however, her

901
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: fame from that TV show has translated into movies, and

902
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: up until last year with It Ends with Us and

903
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: now all the drama and legal issues surrounding that movie,

904
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't feel like she had a signature role. If

905
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been It Ends with Us, I would

906
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: have said a simple favor from twenty eighteen was her

907
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: signature role. She's been in a lot of big movies,

908
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: but as far as like her as the star of

909
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: a movie that people identify her with, I don't think

910
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: she had it there. She was obviously in Green Lantern,

911
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: which is where she met Ryan Reynolds. She was also

912
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: in the Town The Shallows was probably the highest grossing

913
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: movie that she starred in, which probably made a little

914
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: bit more than a simple favor. But I still don't

915
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: think people think Blake Lively and they think The Shallows.

916
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: So up until last year with that ends with Us,

917
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: which is now her highest grossing movie at two hundred

918
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: and forty two million dollars. It was a simple favor,

919
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: so that's probably why they are making a sequel to

920
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: this movie now, which was originally announced back in twenty

921
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: twenty two, and the way that movie ended, I just

922
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: didn't think there would be a sequel, and I enjoyed

923
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: a Simple Favor. It reminds me of twenty twenty even

924
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: though it came out a couple years before. But there

925
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: was a period of time during the early days of

926
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: the pandemic where Kelsey and I watched a movie every

927
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: single day. We ran out of movies to watch that

928
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: the other hadn't watched, And A Simple Favor was one

929
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: that I never watched. But I love Anna Kendrick and

930
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: I enjoyed Blake Lively in it. I thought overall it

931
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: was a pretty good thriller. This one from the trailer

932
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: few very different though, and what it's about is a

933
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: murder goes down at the wedding of Blake Lively's character.

934
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: She essentially blackmails Anna Kendrick to come to a wedding

935
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: after Blake Lively's character spent five years in prison from

936
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: the events of a Simple Favor, which is another interesting

937
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: thing because I do have a ten year spoiler warning.

938
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: That's kind of my grace period. If a movie is

939
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: over ten years old, I feel it is okay to spoil.

940
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: But I almost feel like there should be a bit

941
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: of a clause in there, because whenever a sequel comes out,

942
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: this trailer spoils that one, and you can't really talk

943
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: about what is going on in this one without kind

944
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: of revealing what happened in the first one. So they

945
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: spoil it themselves because you couldn't even have this movie

946
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: have this trailer without leading you to what happened in

947
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: the first movie. But a lot happens in this trailer.

948
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: We'll break it all down, but before I do, here's

949
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: just a little bit of another Simple Favor, which is

950
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: coming out on Prime on May first. Emily, how are

951
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: you here?

952
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: I'm getting married?

953
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: Maybe my maide up honor that I mentioned it was

954
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: in Capri Capri? Why am I here? You think I

955
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: want to make you pay for stealing my life? What

956
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: did she say to convince you to come to this?

957
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: Foss Ratter's side and Dannity Fraud and his girlfriend stuff.

958
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: I have a surprise your own true family. You probably

959
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: don't remember me. It's your auntie Linda. You've got your

960
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 3: sister Ti wedding. She's in hissturance policy does I won't

961
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: tell you both.

962
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: So this movie was filmed on location in Italy. Blake

963
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: Lively's character is out of jail. She met the love

964
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: of her life, who is this extraordinary Italian businessman, and

965
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: she goes to Anna Kendrick and says, hey, friend, remember me.

966
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: You want to be a bride maid in my wedding.

967
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: And Anna Kendrick does not want to go, but it

968
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: looks like Blake Lively has some kind of blackmail on

969
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: her and gets her to go with her assistant and

970
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: while they're there, our murder goes down. And I had

971
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: to watch this trailer three times because it felt so

972
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: jam packed with a bunch of random moments and scenes,

973
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: and it took me a while to even realize that

974
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: a murder happened. During all this, there's a moment in

975
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: the trailer where you realize, oh, somebody's gonna die, and

976
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 1: Anna Kendrick is standing there with a hotel worker, maybe

977
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: opening the door to her hotel room. Hotel workers screams

978
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: and Anna Kendrick is just kind of staring. So I

979
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: feel like this genre is kind of back the Who

980
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: Done It? The murder mystery, the dark comedy. I feel

981
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: like this one has a little bit less of a

982
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: serious tone than the first one. It's almost like they're

983
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: really leaning into Blake Lively's character. The wardrobe, her dressing

984
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: at times, and very interesting like suit jackets and hats.

985
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: I always find the wardrobe that Blake Lively wears in

986
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: movies to be kind of interesting. I don't know if

987
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: it's fashioned that I just don't understand, but it's bold.

988
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: So I think she fits this role really well. I

989
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: think this is a movie that she is really excited

990
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: to make. Anna Kendrick I love in anything, whether she

991
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: is in front of the camera, behind the camera, directing,

992
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: and you get kind of classic Anna Kendrick vibes in

993
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: this trailer, her mix of comedy, really good acting, and

994
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: just somebody that you're root for. It does feel a

995
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: little bit like a random sequel to me, because, like

996
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: I said, the first one didn't really feel like it

997
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: ended on a note of all, we're getting another one.

998
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: But I have to imagine that there was just that

999
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: demand there to make it, and with it coming out

1000
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: on Prime, I feel like they're trying to build some

1001
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: franchises over there, so that's probably a little bit of

1002
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: an influence. But director Paul fig is back directing this movie,

1003
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: who you might not know his name, but he has

1004
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: directed some really big movies like Bride'smaids, The Heat Spy,

1005
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: Ghostbusters from twenty sixteen, the original Simple Favor, which I mentioned.

1006
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 1: He also directed The Last Christmas in twenty nineteen, also

1007
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: created Freaks and Geeks, he didn't direct it. I think

1008
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: you think Judd Apatoo and you think the person associated

1009
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: with Freaks and Geeks, which was a show back in

1010
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: the nineties that launched the careers of so many people

1011
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: like Seth Rogan, James Franco, and Jason Siegel, just to

1012
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: name a few. And Paul Figu was also the skinny

1013
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: camp counselor in Heavyweights, the guy who would get made

1014
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: fun of by all the other kids because he was

1015
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: the one who actually lost the weight. I love Paul

1016
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: fig and looking at his list of movies and how

1017
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: this one kind of fits in, I feel like the

1018
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: project is in good hands. If you have the original

1019
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: filmmaker at the helm. It doesn't feel cash gravy. To me,

1020
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: where this movie gets interesting is all the negative press

1021
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: that it's getting because what is going on in Blake

1022
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: Lively's personal life and all the battles she is having

1023
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: to face online just promoting anything right now, And from

1024
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: the things I've read and before kind of doing some

1025
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: research on this, I thought her and Anda Kendrick did

1026
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 1: not get along, but it seems to me that whenever

1027
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: they were at south By Southwest, Anna Kendrick actually defended her.

1028
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: And where I feel Anna Kendrick's frustration is coming from.

1029
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 1: She said that she has no feud with Blake Lively,

1030
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: but I think she's frustrated by all this negative press

1031
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: that it is getting because everybody doesn't want to talk

1032
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: about the movie. They want to ask about, Hey, what's

1033
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: your relationship like with Blake Lively? And all the headlines

1034
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: that are getting written about this movie is all going

1035
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: back to the legal case between her and Justin Baldoni,

1036
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: which is ongoing, which, according to a New York Times article,

1037
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: she did sue her co star for sexual harassment and retaliation.

1038
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: Justin Baldoni denied these claims. He also followed a four

1039
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars deformation counterclaim against Blake, but all defendants

1040
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: have denied the allegation. So with this ongoing, it brings

1041
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: me to the question, is all press good press, it's

1042
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: even bad press good press. I don't think it's that

1043
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: way anymore. I think that bad press can really bring

1044
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 1: it down. It could affect ticket sales in a world

1045
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: where you can get canceled so quickly for saying something,

1046
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: even though maybe all the facts aren't there. Once somebody

1047
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: has a perception of you, now they're gonna feel that way.

1048
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: So I think in today's culture, not all press is

1049
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: good press, because I feel that is where all the

1050
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: attention is going. And it's also hard to build hype

1051
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: around this movie when everybody just wants to put Blake

1052
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: Lively's name in headlines to get clicks not about this movie,

1053
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: but about everything else going on, with her and Ryan

1054
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: Reynolds all getting dragged into a Taylor Swift getting dragged

1055
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: into it. There's just so much happening. I have to

1056
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 1: imagine that the press tour for this movie has been excruciating,

1057
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: even though so far it has had pretty good reviews

1058
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: from critics, had a pretty good reception that sounds by Southwest.

1059
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: So I think the movie is going to do well

1060
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: on Amazon because you have two big A list stars

1061
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: attached to it. So in the end, I think that

1062
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: will translate to streams to people watching the movie. But

1063
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: it's hard to say that that press is wanted. So

1064
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: in some aspects it is good because it does bring

1065
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: that attention. It will get those numbers there, but I

1066
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: don't think that is how you want to promote every

1067
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: project right now. It's even affected me the way I

1068
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: talked about this trailer. I had to bring that up

1069
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: because it felt like I'd be leaving a piece of

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Speaker 1: the puzzle out. But that being said, the trailer does

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Speaker 1: look pretty good. I feel like it's gonna have more

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Speaker 1: of a comedic vibe than the first one. I don't

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Speaker 1: feel like it's gonna be as intense. I can kind

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Speaker 1: of see the direction it's going in, but I have

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Speaker 1: to imagine there's some kind of twist ending that's gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they're trying to build out an entire franchise here.

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Speaker 1: I am a little bit surprised though that it's not

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Speaker 1: coming down in theaters and going straight to Prime instead,

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Speaker 1: So I'll definitely be giving it a stream on May

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Speaker 1: first on Prime Video that this links the t's a

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Speaker 1: movie on Flamer Bar and that is going to do

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Speaker 1: it for another episode here of the podcast. But before

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Speaker 1: I go, I gotta give my listeners shout out of

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Speaker 1: the week. We had an interview last week. Thank you

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Speaker 1: everybody for all the nice messages and comments. That ended

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Speaker 1: up being a pretty powerful interview that during it, I

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Speaker 1: just felt this shift in energy talking about the Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: City bombing on its thirtieth anniversary. So if you missed

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Speaker 1: that episode, just go back one in the feed. And

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Speaker 1: this week's listener shout out is to the person who

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Speaker 1: dm me on Instagram with the American flag emoji, which

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Speaker 1: was the secret emoji from that interview. So shout out

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Speaker 1: to Jackie Hardwick who said, I'm from Oklahoma. That was

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Speaker 1: such a sad day. I can't believe it's been thirty years,

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Speaker 1: which I think overall was the sentiment of all the

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Speaker 1: messages and comments I got from all you Oklahoma listeners

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Speaker 1: of remembering that day so vividly and it's still not

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Speaker 1: being any easy a process, and that just living with

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Speaker 1: you for so many years that those of you have

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Speaker 1: went and watched the documentary and sent me a message

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Speaker 1: about it of how it's just like reliving that day.

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Speaker 1: So even hearing that from people who just lived in

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma and then talking to Walter who was there, it

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Speaker 1: just gave me a whole new perspective on life of

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Speaker 1: people who go through really traumatic things and how important

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Speaker 1: it is to navigate and talk to those people, check

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Speaker 1: in on those people, because that is a lot of

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Speaker 1: weight to carry. So thank you for listening, appreciate Jackie

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Speaker 1: for sending that message, thank you for all the nice

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Speaker 1: comments and messages. Highly recommend that documentary if you haven't

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Speaker 1: checked it out yet, It is Oklahoma City Bombing, American

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Speaker 1: Terror on Netflix now, so check that out. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: Ryan Coogler, Thanks to you for listening. But how about

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Speaker 1: we throw in another secret emoji for next week's listener

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Speaker 1: shout out hit me with a vampire emoji on Instagram, TikTok,

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Speaker 1: Facebook or X. I'll pick the first person who sends

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Speaker 1: me that and shout you out on next week's episode.

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Speaker 1: And until then, go out and watch good movies and

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Speaker 1: I will talk to you later.