Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky, Hey jooky. I'm
Speaker 1: really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I ghost.
Speaker 1: I los nandas Pe. Hey boo, it's me Roz and
Speaker 1: welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I
Speaker 1: talk to people that I like about the paranormal. I
Speaker 1: want to tell you before we get into this episode.
Speaker 1: I have been so busy at work trying to pull
Speaker 1: together a tour where I'm going to be going to
Speaker 1: gay bars across the country to tell you no ghost
Speaker 1: related uh jokes. And I'm just like really excited about
Speaker 1: it because it's opening up all these different markets, you know,
Speaker 1: places that I've never performed before and in environments that
Speaker 1: have never had stand up before. So it's just, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's really fun. So I'm going to all
Speaker 1: kinds of places. Are probably the closest to you if
Speaker 1: you don't live in a big city that I'll ever
Speaker 1: go or so far, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But if you want to see the full list of
Speaker 1: all the different dates and I will be you know,
Speaker 1: adding more as we go on. Those are all at
Speaker 1: Razhernandez tour dot com. But today on the podcast, now listen.
Speaker 1: You know, I've talked about this many times. My inboxes
Speaker 1: are filled with witches and tarot readers and all these
Speaker 1: different kinds of magical practitioners that want to come on
Speaker 1: the podcast, and I'm very very careful about doing that
Speaker 1: and just being completely honest with you. I know I've
Speaker 1: said this before, but it's just it's just my experience.
Speaker 1: I often get a lot of drama from listeners of
Speaker 1: this podcast when I have on people that have their
Speaker 1: their practice. You know, I'll have people be like, well,
Speaker 1: this person said this, and then that person said that.
Speaker 1: So you know, I like to maybe once a year
Speaker 1: talk to somebody about their practice, somebody that is very
Speaker 1: dedicated to their practice, and allow them space to share it.
Speaker 1: And that is what we have done today and it
Speaker 1: was fascinating. We get into sex magic, which is something
Speaker 1: that I don't think we've ever talked on this podcast,
Speaker 1: and it's really exciting. So this particular guest that we
Speaker 1: have today, she's big on social media. She goes by
Speaker 1: the hood Witch, and her name is Brie Luna and
Speaker 1: she has been featured in tons of major publications. She
Speaker 1: has a book called Blood Sex Magic everyday magic for
Speaker 1: the modern mystic, and she's also got some ghost stories,
Speaker 1: so we're going to hear about those and about some
Speaker 1: of her practice in her history with it, and I'm
Speaker 1: excited for you to listen. So here is my conversation
Speaker 1: with Bri Luna on with the show Oh My God.
Speaker 1: We are joined by Brie Luna the hood Witch. Hi. Hi,
Speaker 1: how'd you get that name?
Speaker 2: Well? It was originally just an homage to my grandmother's
Speaker 2: being that I'm black and Mexican. It was like very
Speaker 2: cheeky but also serious because it was like most of
Speaker 2: the time, you know, growing up around like local botanicas
Speaker 2: and having grandmother that practice Hudu, having a grandmother that
Speaker 2: was practicing Santa Ria, like all of these things, having
Speaker 2: magic within my blood. I didn't feel like there was
Speaker 2: a lot of representation for black and brown brujas and
Speaker 2: witches and magical folks. So I started Hoodwitch and it
Speaker 2: just a self explanted story from there.
Speaker 1: I love it. Wait, so you had that you had
Speaker 1: both sides of your family, had you know, spiritual witchcraft practices?
Speaker 2: Yes? Wow, yeah, And it's I feel like it was
Speaker 2: very under represent it at the time when I launched
Speaker 2: my website. So honestly, like a lot of it was
Speaker 2: during the time where there was that American horror story.
Speaker 2: They had Coven, We had Humbler, So you have all
Speaker 2: the white witches and like the kind of gothy I
Speaker 2: always call it, like black and silver. So we didn't
Speaker 2: have a lot of like colorful like gold and nails
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, just like and just
Speaker 2: having like our our type of like just our cultural representations.
Speaker 2: So I at the time, you know, when I started Hoodwich,
Speaker 2: I was like really the only brown and like black
Speaker 2: woman that would show up to these like spiritual full
Speaker 2: moon ritual circles, and they're just like, why don't you
Speaker 2: practice voodoo? You know what I mean, Like they're just
Speaker 2: kind of looking at me, like why are you here?
Speaker 1: So what is it that you practice? Do you do?
Speaker 1: You are you specific about a practice or is it
Speaker 1: a little bit of multiple different practices.
Speaker 2: So I grew up practicing who do so? Whodo is
Speaker 2: a tradition that is generally passed down to you through
Speaker 2: blood lineage that was from my dad's mother, and so
Speaker 2: I you know, as I grew up, I you know,
Speaker 2: when you're a teenager, I was really gravitating towards the
Speaker 2: magical side of things. I just thought that my grandmothers
Speaker 2: who were in their practices were like superstitious and like
Speaker 2: old fashioned. So I didn't really see them as being
Speaker 2: like witchy or magical. It just felt like, oh, they're spiritual,
Speaker 2: they're religious, you know what I mean. I didn't really
Speaker 2: see it as how popular how we see it now.
Speaker 2: So for me, I wanted to be you know, I
Speaker 2: was like alternative. I was like piercings and my hair
Speaker 2: was pink. So I wanted to like follow like Wicca
Speaker 2: and like all of which, you know, like I watched
Speaker 2: the crafts. So to me, it was like the ethereal
Speaker 2: more like eurocentric magical practices were what was accessible. However,
Speaker 2: as I grew up, I began to really reconnect back
Speaker 2: to my own culture and my own you know, family
Speaker 2: spiritual practices and realizing wow, like you know, this is
Speaker 2: already something that's within you, that's what's inside of you.
Speaker 2: So I have grown up. I've learned a lot from
Speaker 2: many different practitioners throughout my life, and I've hung out
Speaker 2: no Satanist, I know, you know a lot of which
Speaker 2: is from like the left hand path, Uh, spiritual practitioners
Speaker 2: who practice like Vuru, Huru, Santaia, Purnas, you know, all
Speaker 2: of these things. So I've learned a lot, you know,
Speaker 2: from just so many different people in my life. But
Speaker 2: for my own practices, I would say that I am
Speaker 2: a practitioner of uru. I am a practitioner with using
Speaker 2: color magic, with using you know, just sort of like
Speaker 2: infusing my own practice totally.
Speaker 1: I have like a history with witchcraft. I don't know
Speaker 1: that I practice it. I just know a lot about
Speaker 1: a lot of different things from mainly from doing this
Speaker 1: podcast and the people that I've met and listen. There's
Speaker 1: been a lot of money spent on crystals. There's been
Speaker 1: a lot of different candles in the house, and a
Speaker 1: lot of herbs and oils and all of it. But
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know that I have like a specific practice.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm fascinated by all of it.
Speaker 2: You're definitely witchy.
Speaker 1: It's my bangs. I think it's because I have bangs
Speaker 1: and then people just give me crystals.
Speaker 2: I think that's the best way. I think that you
Speaker 2: have such a connection already with the other you know,
Speaker 2: as people saying like paranormal but like with the realm
Speaker 2: of spirit and energy and how you connect people and
Speaker 2: gravitate towards the more unknown side of things, right And
Speaker 2: for me, I've never really called my magic by any names.
Speaker 2: So I grew up as being someone who is very
Speaker 2: psychically sensitive, and I didn't, you know, I never really
Speaker 2: knew what to call that or like what do you
Speaker 2: call that? Is that witchy? But you know, as a
Speaker 2: little as a little kid to me, I just knew
Speaker 2: that it was something very different. And the things that
Speaker 2: I saw, the energy that I felt, I knew other
Speaker 2: people did not have that type of gift, if that
Speaker 2: makes sense.
Speaker 1: Like how does it manifest for you?
Speaker 2: So I always laugh because when I go into homes
Speaker 2: or buildings or new spaces, I'm very good with feeling
Speaker 2: imprint of energy. I always used to call it ghost
Speaker 2: energy or like death energy. I'm like, like someone died
Speaker 2: in here, and I like really can take on. I'll
Speaker 2: get like flashes of images or hear certain things, or
Speaker 2: I'll see certain things. So I would say a lot
Speaker 2: of like clear audience and clairvoyance, and that manifest in
Speaker 2: ways where it was incredibly frightening. But now you know,
Speaker 2: as again, as like getting older, you really begin to
Speaker 2: connect with that part of yourself. And so for me,
Speaker 2: not being afraid of these things and not being afraid
Speaker 2: to question is always been has been helpful.
Speaker 1: Have you ever done like a ghost hunt or like
Speaker 1: gone someplace that the people are like this place is hunted,
Speaker 1: come investigate or help us out or any of that.
Speaker 2: I don't think intentionally. I think it always happens to
Speaker 2: me like unintentionally, because the spirits, they really they'll you know,
Speaker 2: they gravitate towards me, so they'll know like, oh, she
Speaker 2: can hear us, or she can see us, or you know,
Speaker 2: it'll manifest in some way. But it used to, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be honest with you, it really used to scare
Speaker 2: the fuck out of me.
Speaker 1: Well I imagine, I mean, when how old were you
Speaker 1: the first time something like this happened? That's terrifying.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was probably seven eight years old. We used
Speaker 2: to live in a house in Los Angeles, So this
Speaker 2: is something that is always in my family. So I
Speaker 2: didn't write about this a lot in my book, and
Speaker 2: I feel like I should have. But my grandfather growing up,
Speaker 2: he had an old house, and my cousins and my
Speaker 2: older sister and I we would sleep over at this house.
Speaker 2: It's like an old like craftsman style house, very very
Speaker 2: old and really cool, and it was creepy as shit.
Speaker 2: And so when we were younger, my grandfather used to
Speaker 2: have one of those big old TVs like this is
Speaker 2: the kind you know that used to like sit on
Speaker 2: the floor like those really they're like super old. So anyway,
Speaker 2: for the young audience, yes, they had knobs. So we
Speaker 2: would go to bed at night and you would hear
Speaker 2: that big TV like turn on by itself, and you'd
Speaker 2: hear the channels changing. And so for younger audience back
Speaker 2: in the day, after a certain amount of time, there
Speaker 2: were not a lot of things that would still be
Speaker 2: on TV. So you'd have like static or you'd have
Speaker 2: like just weird channels that would like play like you know,
Speaker 2: like a sound like the testing. My sister and I
Speaker 2: I can recall a story. We're in bed, we're sleeping,
Speaker 2: and we hear the big TV turn on and the
Speaker 2: kitchen doors that used to have kind of like those
Speaker 2: swinging like I don't know what they call them, those
Speaker 2: like Western like when.
Speaker 1: You sing loose doors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they had those saloon doors and the kitchen
Speaker 2: and you heard them at like one o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 2: two am, the TV turns on. It's full fucking blast static,
Speaker 2: and you hear the saloon doors like swinging, like swooshing open,
Speaker 2: and we'd hear like the cabinets open, and so my
Speaker 2: grandfather would like laugh at it and just be like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's nothing. And I remember just being so petrified, just
Speaker 2: hiding with like the blanket over our head because we
Speaker 2: were so afraid. We were terrified at night, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't want to sleep there. I don't
Speaker 2: want to stay there. But here's the story of that.
Speaker 2: So the dining room used to have like top floor
Speaker 2: to ceiling mirrors in the dining area, so it was
Speaker 2: like all original old mirrors. And the story has it
Speaker 2: is that the woman who lived there before committed suicide
Speaker 2: and she hung herself right in front of the mirrors,
Speaker 2: like in the off of the beams in that area.
Speaker 1: So so it was her trying to find a channel
Speaker 1: to watch.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, maybe it was, but she
Speaker 2: used to scare the shit of us. But my dad
Speaker 2: thinks that it was my uh step grandmother. So here's
Speaker 2: a fun witch war like, So my step grandmother, my
Speaker 2: grandfather was a cheater, okay, and he hooked up with
Speaker 2: this woman named Eula, and so Ula was a from
Speaker 2: Louisiana and she was a practitioner of magic, and so
Speaker 2: was my grandmother, and so they were beefing over him.
Speaker 1: Did the magic come into play? Were they putting spells
Speaker 1: on each other?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes they were. They were. There was a full
Speaker 2: blown witch war, okay. They were like burying shit in
Speaker 2: each other's yards and fighting over my grandfather. And so
Speaker 2: finally Ula ends up winning him, and he left his
Speaker 2: wife and his five children for her.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: The story goes that she used to be working magic
Speaker 2: in their house, and so Ula was really tapped in
Speaker 2: and she was very connected, and so my grandmother was
Speaker 2: like whatever, like you can have them. What if he's
Speaker 2: gonna like leave his children and like leave meet whatever?
Speaker 2: Fuck him, you know. So the story goes that my
Speaker 2: grandmother hexts their relationships so good that he would never
Speaker 2: be faithful to her, and she always had to keep
Speaker 2: using magic to try to keep him, and it never worked.
Speaker 2: So he always cheated on her up until he died,
Speaker 2: up until both of them died. That man never stayed
Speaker 2: faithful to her ever.
Speaker 1: This sounds like a movie I need to watch, just
Speaker 1: like the two witches constantly hexting each other and putting
Speaker 1: spells on each other.
Speaker 2: The two Southern witches. Yeah, my grandmother was very much
Speaker 2: like that Southern bell, like southern it's I always call it. Was.
Speaker 2: It called like sweet and like kind of nasty. So
Speaker 2: it was like nasty nice, I think it's what they
Speaker 2: call it. But it's like they're nice to you, and
Speaker 2: they'll like, oh, bless your heart. So people from the
Speaker 2: South know what blessed your heart means.
Speaker 1: Total that's Southern shade.
Speaker 2: It's Southern for fuck you, where they're like, ye, your heart.
Speaker 1: Wait, tell me some more ghost stories.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, So I went with two of
Speaker 2: my girlfriends to a bar in Los Angeles called The Association,
Speaker 2: and we went for a hip hop night. Okay. So
Speaker 2: it was like full of just it was like wrap
Speaker 2: hip hop whatever, R and B. It was like a
Speaker 2: fun night. And so we go there having drinks. Everyone's
Speaker 2: having a good time and we're going to the restroom.
Speaker 2: So you know how girls are. We go to the
Speaker 2: bathroom and we're taking selfies in the mirror like we're
Speaker 2: super turned. At this point, like we're very like drunk,
Speaker 2: and we're like just shooting firing off pictures, selfies, hitting
Speaker 2: every angle and there weren't any other girls in the
Speaker 2: bathroom with us, and so we were just having a ball.
Speaker 2: We had our own little private photo shoot. We're just
Speaker 2: taking all the photos. So we go back out, we're
Speaker 2: having fun. We leave that night, and the next morning,
Speaker 2: we're like hungover and I was like, oh, I want
Speaker 2: to post those pictures on Instagram. We look so cute. Like,
Speaker 2: let's go through the pictures. So I opened my phone
Speaker 2: and we're scrolling through, swiping through, like trying to find
Speaker 2: the best one to put on Instagram. And I look
Speaker 2: in the background of one of the pictures and I
Speaker 2: was like, who the fuck is that? And I was like,
Speaker 2: who is this old white lady? And I am not
Speaker 2: joking night, No, that's what makes this story so much crazier.
Speaker 2: Mind you, Like, I mean, it's a pretty diverse group,
Speaker 2: but let's be real. Everyone there was like black or
Speaker 2: like let the you know, like it was like it
Speaker 2: was a hip hop night was in LA so it
Speaker 2: was like there wasn't a you're not going to see
Speaker 2: like an eighty year old white woman okay. At the
Speaker 2: hip hop night. So we're looking through the pictures. My
Speaker 2: friend Jianny her mom, I was like who is this?
Speaker 2: Like what is this? And she looks at the photo
Speaker 2: and she was like, who is that woman? But it
Speaker 2: gets worse. RAS's it's it's creepier. Okay, you have to
Speaker 2: see the photo.
Speaker 1: I'm the photo. Can I pull it?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And is it okay with you? If we put
Speaker 1: this on our Instagram?
Speaker 2: Yes? Put it. Everyone needs to see it.
Speaker 1: Anyone listening. Go to Instagram ghosted by ros At, ghosted
Speaker 1: by ras and you will see this photo posted today.
Speaker 2: So the first photo, I am the one holding my
Speaker 2: phone with a big curly hair h My friend Michelle
Speaker 2: is in the middle. Johnny is on the right right.
Speaker 2: So we're snapping off the photos and at the time
Speaker 2: with that that make of iPhone. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you guys remember this, but there used to be a
Speaker 2: little button on the bottom, like the little touch button,
Speaker 2: so you can hold the button and it would fire
Speaker 2: off like multiple shots, very quickly rapit, yes, like a
Speaker 2: rabbit shot. So I was holding the button and we
Speaker 2: were like taking the selfies. So when I get home,
Speaker 2: you know, we're going through the photos and we're all
Speaker 2: creeped out now. And I look to the right of Giohnny,
Speaker 2: who is wearing the blue and white striped shirt. And
Speaker 2: if you look to the far right corner, there is
Speaker 2: a hand, a white hand with now polish, yes, and
Speaker 2: it's coming out of the mirror of If you look
Speaker 2: at the second photo, because I gave you, guys, like
Speaker 2: another second shot, so you can see on the right
Speaker 2: there is a mirror. There is a door to the back,
Speaker 2: and then if you know the location of the association,
Speaker 2: there's no other door there. That's just a wall, and
Speaker 2: then a big mirror to the right. And so going
Speaker 2: through all of my shots, there's nothing else from her.
Speaker 1: It was just that woman in that Wait, where's the woman?
Speaker 2: She's like right there where you're at.
Speaker 1: Oh that lady. Okay, wait wait, so that hand is
Speaker 1: not connected to her.
Speaker 2: No, so that's the thing. It looks like from my
Speaker 2: own theory, Like, I'm not joking you guys, like this
Speaker 2: changed my life. This, I'm not joking it. It changed
Speaker 2: my life because I started to think, okay, outside of superstition,
Speaker 2: outside of the supernatural, like paranormal on a scientific level.
Speaker 2: It started making me think. I was like, well, if
Speaker 2: I'm snapping off photos in the mirror and then this
Speaker 2: is happening in this blip of time, what if there
Speaker 2: is some overlapping you know, timeline, like maybe she is
Speaker 2: alive and it's happening because that bar apparently it was
Speaker 2: built maybe in like they said, in the nineteen thirties
Speaker 2: or forties. And so I was like, well, what if
Speaker 2: there's an overlap in a timeline, that's how happening because
Speaker 2: inside of that bar, they still have all of like
Speaker 2: the original like interiors and like the decorations are still
Speaker 2: pretty old, like the building itself is really really old.
Speaker 2: And I was like, well what if And my friends
Speaker 2: started laughing, and I was like this is my theory.
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, what if she and her
Speaker 2: friends are partying and they you know, she went to
Speaker 2: the bathroom and she looked in the mirror, and she said,
Speaker 2: the most peculiar thing happened. I saw three like colored
Speaker 2: girls in the mirror, you know, like, oh, white lady
Speaker 2: with this like old fashioned hair. So what if she's
Speaker 2: like telling her friends like the strangest thing happened. I
Speaker 2: saw these weird like I saw these women in the
Speaker 2: mirror and and they're like, yeah, okay, sure, get let's go.
Speaker 2: You're drunk, like, let's go home. And you see her friend.
Speaker 2: You see this other hand, this white hand coming out
Speaker 2: of the mirror, and it looks like it's, you know,
Speaker 2: summoning her to come back to the mirror.
Speaker 1: You have a part down the middle. Is that what
Speaker 1: I'm looking at?
Speaker 2: It looks like a swoop like it's kind of like
Speaker 2: it's gray and it's like a all the way in.
Speaker 2: So do you see it with your cursor? Like move it?
Speaker 2: You see the like hair, what's.
Speaker 1: That orange ish area?
Speaker 2: What is that face? That's her white face? And you
Speaker 2: can see her eyebrow if you zoom anymore. I have
Speaker 2: like examined this photo so many times. I have like
Speaker 2: contacted like paranormal people. I have contacted Zach Bagant and
Speaker 2: I said to.
Speaker 1: Did he say anything?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to his museum. He's like blown away,
Speaker 2: really yes. Because the fun part about this is that
Speaker 2: the metadata on this I told anyone, I was like,
Speaker 2: I am down to have anybody who dares to even
Speaker 2: challenge this. I have the phone, the metadata, I have everything, baby,
Speaker 2: Like we can put it into forensic styles.
Speaker 1: I can see something. I just can't tell her features.
Speaker 2: So okay, can you go around like girl, scroll down
Speaker 2: through between Michelle's legs too.
Speaker 1: I know, I see.
Speaker 2: It's a body. It's gray. It's like it's translucent, it's gray.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've had people study this image who teach
Speaker 2: like medium ship classes and all of those things, and
Speaker 2: like I've said, I've always just like wanted help or
Speaker 2: anyone like we should go back there. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it can. You know, like I reached out. I
Speaker 2: even left a Yelp review so you guys can look
Speaker 2: top I did I put I put this bottle everywhere
Speaker 2: because I was like, you guys, there is a freaking
Speaker 2: ghost in the picture, like look at it. And so
Speaker 2: even some of the staff has told me, like, weird
Speaker 2: things have happened at night. I send it to the
Speaker 2: owner of the bar. I started doing history, like trying
Speaker 2: to research like the building, and the owners of the
Speaker 2: bar they just like laughed and they were just like yeah, well,
Speaker 2: they were like it's a really old building. So they
Speaker 2: didn't deny that it was like a possibility, you know totally.
Speaker 1: I completely is that downtown, Yes, it's downtown. Yeah, all
Speaker 1: those buildings are haunted for sure. Oh my god. The
Speaker 1: bathroom lady goes, the old lady in the bathroom, the.
Speaker 2: Old white lady in the bathroom right up night time access.
Speaker 1: What I was thinking was that, Okay, like you can
Speaker 1: tell it's like a rounded head. There's like apart down
Speaker 1: the middle. And then right by your friend holding the
Speaker 1: little Martini glass, right where her shoulder is, you could
Speaker 1: see like a nose and then eyes. I was thinking
Speaker 1: that that was the face.
Speaker 2: No, her nose. Her eyebrow is right where Jihnny's shoulder is,
Speaker 2: so right where you have the cursor.
Speaker 1: That's an eyebrow. It's like the browbone.
Speaker 2: But yes, that's what exactly Okay, the bone.
Speaker 1: Yes, she's it's her side profile.
Speaker 2: It's her profile because she's walking towards the mirror.
Speaker 1: Okay, now I see her. So her skin is that
Speaker 1: kind of weird people? Yeah, okay, now pull out a
Speaker 1: little bit, jieha.
Speaker 2: Now look down at the body. Scroll down, like look
Speaker 2: between Michelle and Gianni. It's like gray.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: But the hand is so disgusting if you zoom on
Speaker 2: the hand, it's so gross.
Speaker 1: The way to the Can I tell you how.
Speaker 2: Many nightmares I've had zoom. What is it holding? What
Speaker 2: if it's like cemetery dirt? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so creepy. But I'm obsessed with
Speaker 1: this old lady being like, no, I want to go
Speaker 1: to hip hop night and her friend being like, girl,
Speaker 1: we gotta go.
Speaker 2: When I tell you, it truly was like the most
Speaker 2: ratchet fun just like it was. It was very very
Speaker 2: lit that night. It was packed full of people, crowded,
Speaker 2: and everyone was sweating and dancing. We were having the
Speaker 2: best time that it was like, it was amazing.
Speaker 1: So the skeptics might be like, is it a discoloration
Speaker 1: in the wood behind you?
Speaker 2: My dad tried to say that when I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: like maybe it's just a glare from the like like, like, baby,
Speaker 2: when have you ever seen a glare with the shape
Speaker 2: of a woman's head? And where the fuck did the
Speaker 2: hand come from? I showed my dad I like I
Speaker 2: showed him all of the series and like I said,
Speaker 2: I am willing to have anybody who challenges my photo.
Speaker 2: We can go to forensics, we can go to forensic files,
Speaker 2: we can test it, we can do I don't care.
Speaker 2: It's like this photo truly has proof that there is
Speaker 2: something and it maybe if you don't even believe in
Speaker 2: ghosts or spirits, then do you believe in multi dimensions?
Speaker 2: Do you believe in like other dimensions are like alternate reality.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I couldn't even explain it because
Speaker 2: I'm not like some quantum you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: like quantum physicshit going on, but like truly like this
Speaker 2: is another timeline, like overlapping.
Speaker 1: I want you to go back there and try to
Speaker 1: find it.
Speaker 2: I do too.
Speaker 1: How long ago was this?
Speaker 2: This was in I believe twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: I also look and see I think it was twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: I've been ranting and raving about it ever since, because
Speaker 2: you know how it is like when people are like, oh,
Speaker 2: I have a ghost photo, and then it's like some
Speaker 2: obscure like blob of a fake.
Speaker 1: Like what is like girl now the holy ground? What
Speaker 1: we all want is the full body apparition.
Speaker 2: I have the full body apparition. I have a disembodied hand.
Speaker 1: With nail polish on, and she has no.
Speaker 2: Polish, And I'm like, you can look at our hands,
Speaker 2: you can look at everything. It's like we don't. I
Speaker 2: have stiletto nails, Like that's been my trademark look for
Speaker 2: the past decade.
Speaker 1: So I love it. Do you have other ghost stories?
Speaker 2: I do. I mean they all have to do with
Speaker 2: bars in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Hell, Yes, I love it.
Speaker 2: LA is a very uh It's a beautiful and spooky place.
Speaker 2: And I feel like I was telling my literary agent,
Speaker 2: I want to make a book about all of these
Speaker 2: like haunted and very special places in Los Angeles, and
Speaker 2: he's like, I will think about it, like you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, people want to hear it.
Speaker 1: Tom, Well, there's so many interesting kind of ghosts in LA.
Speaker 1: You know. There's like a lot of movie star or
Speaker 1: aspiring movie star types. There's creative types, there's mob people.
Speaker 1: You know, there's really interesting ghosts.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of Like I mean, the history in
Speaker 2: and of itself is just it's really fascinating. And my family,
Speaker 2: you know, and my grandparents and things like that, like
Speaker 2: have lived in Los Angeles for over one hundred years.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So I have a lineage in California like in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: and so I just feel so grounded and so connected
Speaker 2: and I feel so protected when I'm there, which is
Speaker 2: like different from you know, when a lot of people
Speaker 2: come to LA, they're like, oh, it's so fake and
Speaker 2: everyone's just so shallow and blah blah. But that's because
Speaker 2: you only stick to like one small group of people,
Speaker 2: and you know, you're like a transplant. You don't really
Speaker 2: understand the culture. You don't really go outside of your bubble.
Speaker 2: So that's something I always challenge people who moved to
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. It's like, get outside of your comfort bubble.
Speaker 2: Go to areas outside of like you know, Silver Lake
Speaker 2: and like whatever, you know, like Hollywood and all these things.
Speaker 2: It's like, go to like real places and understand where
Speaker 2: you're at and at least do some research on the history.
Speaker 2: So anyway, another story, there's a bar and called Dirty
Speaker 2: Laundry and it's in LA and that place is super
Speaker 2: haunted too. It was like a speakeasy. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like a speakeasy. I don't even know if they're still
Speaker 2: in business.
Speaker 1: Where is that downtown? I'm looking a up right now.
Speaker 2: I don't know where it's at. I'm like I was drunk,
Speaker 2: Like I was like really drunk, and I went there.
Speaker 1: Well, they got a website and looks like they're still open.
Speaker 1: It says it's a seventeen twenty five North Hudson's. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it seems like maybe Hollywood. So you're drunk, You're
Speaker 1: at this place called Dirty Laundry.
Speaker 2: Yes, I go there with the same group of girls,
Speaker 2: and that's where we started laughing. We're like, maybe we
Speaker 2: have like the coven energy of the ghost untresses. Yes,
Speaker 2: but one of my girlfriends was going to like meet
Speaker 2: with some guy that she like met off of whatever
Speaker 2: app and so we go there. We're like having cocktails,
Speaker 2: having the best time, and there's this room. There's an
Speaker 2: area that's like sectioned off now because I went recently
Speaker 2: and it's closed off. They no longer allowed people to
Speaker 2: be in that room. And so we're in that room.
Speaker 2: I'm laying on this like chase lounge, and I asked
Speaker 2: my friend to take a photo of me. So she
Speaker 2: takes a photo, and then there's one we have like
Speaker 2: a really cool chandelier hanging above the top of the ceiling.
Speaker 2: So I'm standing there and I'm like drunk and like
Speaker 2: having fun, and so she's taking all these photos of me.
Speaker 2: Yet again, go home sober up, look at the photos
Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, there's an orb, and you
Speaker 2: see it move from the bookshelf to sitting next to me.
Speaker 2: And then when you look at the photo of me
Speaker 2: standing up underneath this chandelier, there is an orb on
Speaker 2: my crotch and then on the side of me. And
Speaker 2: so I was dying laughing. But that night, I specifically
Speaker 2: remember that was the first time I had ever seen
Speaker 2: a black shadow figure of a Christen. And so he
Speaker 2: was in the corner of the room that we were in,
Speaker 2: and it was just us because we were taking photos
Speaker 2: in there, you know, like trying to be cute. So
Speaker 2: we like took we were taking our little photo shoot
Speaker 2: in that room, and I look over and I saw
Speaker 2: this fire of a like a black figure of a man,
Speaker 2: and I look at him and I said hey, and
Speaker 2: he just who He looked back and dropped into the
Speaker 2: ground because he was shook.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, he thought he was just creeping, and
Speaker 1: then he said, oh, no, you can see me.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was, like it was creepy as shit. Like
Speaker 2: I had never in my life up until that point,
Speaker 2: I have never seen like a shadowed figure in my
Speaker 2: entire life, of my ghostly little life of seeing like apparitions,
Speaker 2: seeing weird things, I've never seen anything like that in
Speaker 2: my life, and it was so freaky. But apparently I'm
Speaker 2: not the only person that has seen that in that room,
Speaker 2: because again, they don't open that room to the public anymore.
Speaker 2: It's not open, it's they close it off.
Speaker 1: How do you interpret something like that, like why does
Speaker 1: it look different than like an apparition of a human
Speaker 1: Do you think it's like a different kind of energy or.
Speaker 2: I definitely do, because when we're thinking about it, like
Speaker 2: the location, So we're in a bar, and generally at
Speaker 2: most bars are haunted. I'm using that word like very loosely,
Speaker 2: and I don't mean it like in some like Pultzter
Speaker 2: Guys type of way, but sometimes, yes, a Poulter Guys
Speaker 2: type of way. But most bars are haunted because we
Speaker 2: think of the people, and we think about the energy
Speaker 2: that collects in those spaces. Oftentimes you have people who
Speaker 2: are going through really serious traumas. We have people who
Speaker 2: are drinking to get away, drinking to celebrate. You know,
Speaker 2: whenever we have the spirits when we think of alcohol,
Speaker 2: those are spirits. And why do we have spirits in
Speaker 2: certain spiritual ritual traditions, It is because it does connect
Speaker 2: you to a another realm. It allows access into your
Speaker 2: human vessel. When we talk about possession, oftentimes when people say,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I went out, I was drinking and
Speaker 2: I blacked out, I don't remember anything. I don't know
Speaker 2: what happened. Aside from the science of things, you do
Speaker 2: have earth bound entities. You do have spirits that can
Speaker 2: inhabit your vessel while you're drunk. So there is that
Speaker 2: whole situation where some people argue with you, like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: you're just drunk. It's science, it is you know there,
Speaker 2: it's alcohol. When you drink. Yes, you're gonna be less inhibited.
Speaker 2: Bad things are gonna happen, are things that you just
Speaker 2: wouldn't ordinarily do out of character for you. However, spiritually,
Speaker 2: if you know, for the people who don't believe in
Speaker 2: the spiritual part, stop listening. But for the witches and
Speaker 2: for the people who are, you know, maybe a little
Speaker 2: bit more curious, spirits do connect to you. We have libations,
Speaker 2: we leave offerings of spirits, tequila, mezcal, jin rum, we
Speaker 2: use all of those things. I went to a Haitian
Speaker 2: voodoo ceremony and they also have a drink that is
Speaker 2: made for the GeTe so during fet GeTe, which is
Speaker 2: around the time of did Los Mortos, it's like during
Speaker 2: these times of the dead, October, the end of October,
Speaker 2: during Sourin, so it's like during the time of the
Speaker 2: dead honoring the dead. At this Haitian voodoo ceremony that
Speaker 2: I went to in New Orleans, they had a drink.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, guys, I don't remember the name of it.
Speaker 2: If I'm butchering this, I'm sorry, but like that's okay.
Speaker 2: There is a drink in Haiti that is made during
Speaker 2: the GeTe ceremonies, and it's where you put lots of
Speaker 2: burning hot peppers and they soak them in alcohol. And
Speaker 2: so once you become mounted or possessed by the spirits,
Speaker 2: by the loa, you're able to drink this hot pepper
Speaker 2: alcohol that if you're not mounted, if you're not possessed
Speaker 2: with these spirits, or you're not embodying these spirits, it
Speaker 2: will literally burn a hole through your tongue and you
Speaker 2: can you can search this. This is this is very real.
Speaker 2: You have to be possessed in embodying these spirits. Papagee,
Speaker 2: the gety spirits are those who watch over the grave
Speaker 2: and over the graveyard, and they love to celebrate death
Speaker 2: and they're festive and they're fun and they're like wild.
Speaker 2: So when you're drinking this alcohol, you you won't get burned.
Speaker 2: Your tongue is not gonna get burned. Like it's it's
Speaker 2: almost as if you're just drinking regular alcohol.
Speaker 1: WHOA.
Speaker 2: So there is that connection on what I'm basically like
Speaker 2: roundabout way of saying that alcohol has such a history,
Speaker 2: you know, with spirits, Why we leave libations on our altars,
Speaker 2: Why we leave libations to summon spirits and specific entities
Speaker 2: and when you're working with them and leaving them as
Speaker 2: an offering of gratitude and as a you know, honoring
Speaker 2: of respect. But I do think it is important for
Speaker 2: people to understand when you go to bars, there is
Speaker 2: a lot of low energy, a lot of darker is
Speaker 2: what people see, like darker energies, because we do have
Speaker 2: that attachment just because and I think it's important for
Speaker 2: people to know just because you die does not mean
Speaker 2: you're going to become some elevated angelic spirit. Some people
Speaker 2: still stay being a piece of shit, or like if
Speaker 2: you suffer it with alcoholism, if you suffer it with
Speaker 2: drug addiction and you die and you're an alcoholic, or
Speaker 2: you die of cirrhosis of the liver. Where else would
Speaker 2: you want to be? I'm going at the bar, so drink,
Speaker 2: And why would you not want to have that chance
Speaker 2: of having a vessel to take hold of, to possess,
Speaker 2: or to take control of. If you see them leaving
Speaker 2: their vessel, leaving their body, it's very easy for an
Speaker 2: entity who is very I guess you would say like low.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say like low vibration because I
Speaker 2: don't I also don't want to put a stigma that like, oh,
Speaker 2: if you're an alcoholic, you're going to have a low
Speaker 2: vibration and be like stuck at a bar. That's not
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm saying that we all know, you
Speaker 2: know that there are certain people who are living that
Speaker 2: are assholes and just so happen to be alcoholics, and
Speaker 2: they like being in these spaces. So why would they not,
Speaker 2: you know, want to continue on in the afterlife. That's
Speaker 2: all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What about not even necessarily an afterlife thing? But if
Speaker 1: somebody is in a low place and they're at a bar,
Speaker 1: do you believe that their bad energy can be left there? Afterwards,
Speaker 1: or you know, kind of a like a spiritual fart
Speaker 1: lingering in the air.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm almost getting at, where it's just
Speaker 2: like we all have encountered it in real waking life.
Speaker 2: You meet someone who is just so exhausting, it's like
Speaker 2: energy vampire, and then when you're drinking with them, it's like,
Speaker 2: oh god, it just gets worse because and it's like
Speaker 2: they start crying and it's like you hear every sad story.
Speaker 2: Then my wife left me, and my kids don't love
Speaker 2: me anymore and everybody hates me, and woe is me?
Speaker 2: And I need to keep drinking. And imagine you're the bartender.
Speaker 2: I think most bartenders will get this where it's like
Speaker 2: if you work, even in like the service industry, we
Speaker 2: encounter so many people that are just so incredibly draining,
Speaker 2: and so imagine when you die, it doesn't elevate you,
Speaker 2: like you're not going to become this like magical angel.
Speaker 2: Some people get stuck in that rut of just being
Speaker 2: earth bound entities, and it goes also into using like
Speaker 2: you know, seances and Ouiji boards and da da da
Speaker 2: da da, We're gonna go on all day where it's
Speaker 2: like who are you connecting with, who is earth bound?
Speaker 2: Who is not elevated? And there are some spiritual practices
Speaker 2: that you can do to elevate your family members or
Speaker 2: people who may have not had a great life that
Speaker 2: like have passed on, even just by like honoring them,
Speaker 2: putting them on a place in the altar. You know,
Speaker 2: like there's certain things that you can do for them.
Speaker 1: When you talk about leaving alcohol at altars for spirits,
Speaker 1: do you think in future generations they're going to be
Speaker 1: leaving like Fireball or like White Claw.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would encourage I want them to. I told
Speaker 2: my son. I was like, if you don't build me
Speaker 2: the most decadent altar ever with. I want ship and pain,
Speaker 2: I want perfume. I want food. I'm a Taurus. I
Speaker 2: want the works. Okay, I want food, wine, drinks, hedonism.
Speaker 2: I want every sexy gothic babe at my tombstone taking photos.
Speaker 2: I want a photo shoot. It's like, girl, take all
Speaker 2: the photos.
Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, tell me about your book.
Speaker 2: So my book was released on Halloween and it's called
Speaker 2: Blood Sex Magic. It's released through Harper One and it's
Speaker 2: just it's my baby. It's my first well not my
Speaker 2: first baby. My second baby. It's my second baby, but no.
Speaker 2: My book is titled Blood Sex Magic, and it is
Speaker 2: a collection of stories, spells and just practical ways of
Speaker 2: utilizing magic and terot spreads, and honestly, it was like
Speaker 2: it's my first book, and I just I feel like
Speaker 2: there's still so much more that like I want to
Speaker 2: say and like I want to do. But I love
Speaker 2: this book so much because of the art. It's like
Speaker 2: it's it's very visually stunning and beautiful, and I take
Speaker 2: so much pride in it because I designed it. Like
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of major publishers that will allow
Speaker 2: you to do like a full color book that I
Speaker 2: got to design and really like make it my, you know,
Speaker 2: my my own. And I was very adamant on that
Speaker 2: because I like to call myself a visual storyteller and
Speaker 2: I really take my art and my vision seriously. So
Speaker 2: that was something that was like a non negotiable for me.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, Yeah, tell me about sex Magic.
Speaker 2: Sex Magic. What do you want to start?
Speaker 1: So this is stuff that you cover in the book
Speaker 1: Sex Magic.
Speaker 2: So I didn't want to go like too crazy because
Speaker 2: for me, like I think that there is an amount
Speaker 2: of responsibility that you have whatever, like if you're sharing
Speaker 2: bills or if you're sharing any type of magical work.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to share with maybe people who are
Speaker 2: like a novice or you know, like just getting into
Speaker 2: their magical practice, or maybe they're curious. So to me,
Speaker 2: this is more along the lines of like an intro
Speaker 2: to sex magic for a person who may not have
Speaker 2: really any like understanding of what that is. And so
Speaker 2: for my readers, I just give them a basic intro
Speaker 2: of how to work with your sexual energy, how to
Speaker 2: channel your sexual energy to I guess I hate using
Speaker 2: this word, but I'm going to do it, guys, to
Speaker 2: manifest your intention to work with the power of your
Speaker 2: sexual energy and creating what it is that you want.
Speaker 2: So I do discuss in a very practical manner where
Speaker 2: it's like, no, you're not going to get like a
Speaker 2: new car just because you like fuck some guy and
Speaker 2: you're like you're like, oh yeah, I mean actually you
Speaker 2: probably could get a new car. Okay, let meet us.
Speaker 1: Guy's got a lot of money, maybe get.
Speaker 2: You yes, So let me us start all over with that,
Speaker 2: because you can manifest anything that you want using your
Speaker 2: sexual energy and your sexual power as long as it's consensual,
Speaker 2: So that's a huge thing too. I'm very big obviously,
Speaker 2: everyone should be very big on consent. So consensual sexual
Speaker 2: magic and raising your vibration and really just like manifesting
Speaker 2: what it is that you want using the power of
Speaker 2: your sexual energy.
Speaker 1: And that's something that you can do alone or with
Speaker 1: one person or a group of people, right, Like, Yes,
Speaker 1: I had a person one time on a dating app.
Speaker 1: Their profiles said that they were looking for someone to
Speaker 1: do sex magic with, and I was like, what is that? Like,
Speaker 1: tell me more, and then they were like sort of
Speaker 1: just telling me about it. But I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to do this with some
Speaker 1: complete stranger, but I was just curious like about it.
Speaker 2: So I absolutely would not practice sex magic with a
Speaker 2: complete stranger unless I was the one that was in
Speaker 2: control of what the intent was, right, But I probably
Speaker 2: wouldn't let them know. And I think to some degree,
Speaker 2: you know, as witches, what depends on what kind of
Speaker 2: which you are. I can be a little bit of
Speaker 2: a naughty witch, So what does that mean, you know,
Speaker 2: if you're dating and you're like harnessing that energy, if
Speaker 2: you're I think this is why even with like my
Speaker 2: girls and friends who are sexual sex workers. I think
Speaker 2: that most sex workers are like the biggest and most
Speaker 2: powerful witches because they know how to enchant, they know
Speaker 2: the subconscious of most of their clients, they know how
Speaker 2: to get money, they know how to they know the
Speaker 2: human psyche on a deeper level than like your average
Speaker 2: like layman could ever understand or like really know. So
Speaker 2: I do think that some of my friends who are
Speaker 2: practicing sex switches and sex workers shout out to them
Speaker 2: because they're getting that money get into the bag. And
Speaker 2: also like enchanting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I just find it a really fascinating thing
Speaker 1: that I don't think has ever come up on this
Speaker 1: podcast sex Magic.
Speaker 2: I love it. I mean. And also in the book,
Speaker 2: I put a pretty controversial spell in the book, and
Speaker 2: it's the paneity, which is a very powerful love spell
Speaker 2: that you used your dirty panties or you're used underwear,
Speaker 2: and you'll make a tea out of it. Okay, in
Speaker 2: South America and also in southern North America, it's a
Speaker 2: very popular thing within even like Caribbean people. They know this.
Speaker 2: So you make the panty tea. You're supposed to wear
Speaker 2: the panties. You can't wear black underwear. When you do this, FYI,
Speaker 2: no black panties. They need to be pink or red,
Speaker 2: which correspond to like love, lust, beauty, all those things.
Speaker 2: So you're gonna take those panties. You're gonna wear them
Speaker 2: for three to seven days. I know everyone's be like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is disgusting.
Speaker 1: That the same for three to seven days.
Speaker 2: Yes, but but you're gonna do it after you take
Speaker 2: a bath. Because these are your magic You're little magical panties.
Speaker 2: These are your seduction panties. So you don't wear them
Speaker 2: every day. I mean, you can't make them funky now,
Speaker 2: like you can keep it funky if you want to
Speaker 2: wear it. You want little tints, little twang to it,
Speaker 2: you can't wear them. Okay, it's your magic. You can
Speaker 2: do what you want. You want the pheromones you want,
Speaker 2: the you want, the juices you want, you want that.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Okay, it's gonna get a little nasty.
Speaker 2: So if you are cringing, I'm sorry to tell you.
Speaker 2: Magic is not all roast quarts and crystals and all
Speaker 2: no witch brough hadia and witchcraft is about blood, sex
Speaker 2: and magic. So you're gonna get the real from me.
Speaker 2: You know, witchcraft is not going to always be pretty.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be clean and sanitized for you. It's
Speaker 2: not you know, that's just not it. So you wear
Speaker 2: the panties, You take some boiling water, you pour them
Speaker 2: over the panties, you soak them for a while because
Speaker 2: you want to get all the juices into the tea.
Speaker 2: And then some people they would feed it, they would
Speaker 2: use that water. They would put it into like a
Speaker 2: jar like you can put in like a mason jar.
Speaker 2: And you use that water and you're cooking, you make coffee,
Speaker 2: you can make tea with it, soups, and it is
Speaker 2: potent and it's very powerful. So my grandfather, he's from Arkansas,
Speaker 2: and he's he knew what's up, you know, he knew
Speaker 2: what was up. And so my grandfather always had a
Speaker 2: joke and he used to call me a pinky. So
Speaker 2: he'd say, pinky, I don't accept black coffee from single ladies.
Speaker 2: So what he met by that in Hudu and also
Speaker 2: in other magical folk traditions in the South, in Texas, Louisiana,
Speaker 2: the Carolina is all of these things. Everyone who does
Speaker 2: root working or conjure world or magical work knows that
Speaker 2: you don't accept black coffee or spaghetti from women that
Speaker 2: you don't.
Speaker 1: Know why spaghetti the.
Speaker 2: Blood and you're putting your period blood in the spaghetti.
Speaker 1: Really? Oh yeah, see, I don't know about this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. I'm happy you're here.
Speaker 2: This is very, very controversial again because people feel some
Speaker 2: people don't like the idea of you using love magic
Speaker 2: or sex magic to take away somebody's free will. So
Speaker 2: you do have practitioners who said, you know, don't take
Speaker 2: away someone's free will and a love spell or domination spell.
Speaker 2: But then you have other practitioners who grow up and
Speaker 2: have traditions where it's like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that? Is it a wicking belief that
Speaker 1: it like it comes back threefold or something?
Speaker 2: I don't believe in the law of three.
Speaker 1: To me is that it is almost like karma type thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but karma is a whole other thing too, So
Speaker 2: it's like, but this law of three, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just it's still man made. But whatever, I'm gonna all
Speaker 2: say it as this, I am not here to be
Speaker 2: the police or the authority over anyone else's spiritual practice
Speaker 2: or their life or their magic. But do not put
Speaker 2: down other people who don't believe like you and who
Speaker 2: don't have traditions like you, because something my grandmother used
Speaker 2: to tell me is that if you can't protect yourself
Speaker 2: from a hex, you cannot heal anybody. So if you
Speaker 2: don't know how to use defensive magic to hex somebody
Speaker 2: to curse them, then what type of healing are you doing?
Speaker 2: So you need to have some form of grounding. And
Speaker 2: I think that it's even funnier because I grew up
Speaker 2: with one of my mom's friends. She's like a Russian immigrant,
Speaker 2: and she always used to tell me that, like, too
Speaker 2: much light can make you go blind. Too much laughing
Speaker 2: isn't good for your soul. So anything that's like too
Speaker 2: much light is blinding. And I really fucking hate people
Speaker 2: who are just like, oh, I'm only good vibes, I
Speaker 2: only love and light. It's like that toxic positivity. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, if you don't know how to protect or
Speaker 2: defend yourself, and don't call yourself.
Speaker 1: A witch, Okay, I'm learning so much today. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy you're here. I love them here. We have to
Speaker 1: wrap it up, but can you tell people where to
Speaker 1: find you? And all the stuff that you do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you can find me on social media as
Speaker 2: the hood Witch, and most of my pages are verified,
Speaker 2: so I have a lot of impersonators and like phonies
Speaker 2: and like sure, fake bitch is trying to be me.
Speaker 2: So it is the hood Witch, the official at the Hoodwitch.
Speaker 2: My website is Thehoodwitch dot com, Instagram is the Hoodwitch Twitter. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't even know if anyone uses that name more Twitter,
Speaker 2: the Hoodwitch, blue Sky, the hood Witch, Facebook at the Hoodwitch.
Speaker 2: Nothing else is just the Hoodwitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's something that maybe listeners of this show don't
Speaker 1: know is that a lot of magical practitioners, psychics, tarot
Speaker 1: readers have a lot of impostors, tons of them, and
Speaker 1: people that are praying on their followers and trying to
Speaker 1: get money. So if you're getting if you're getting a
Speaker 1: DM that looks like it's from some you know, spiritual
Speaker 1: practitioner or psychic or whoever that you're following, and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: I can give you a reading if you give me money.
Speaker 1: I don't do it. I've also had people do it
Speaker 1: of me and I don't even do readings, and people
Speaker 1: have like you know, reached out to my followers and
Speaker 1: been like, hey, I'm doing readings, now you want to
Speaker 1: give them a fifty bucks And then they do thinking
Speaker 1: then I'm going to give them a tart reading and
Speaker 1: then they're mad at real me because I did that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not me. I had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with that person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have like some scammers. I have like a
Speaker 2: lady on Facebook who's like trying like scamming people, and
Speaker 2: she's like, looks nothing like me. It's crazy like she
Speaker 2: and she has like a like lots of followers too.
Speaker 2: So guys, I don't use Facebook. I only use Instagram
Speaker 2: and Twitter and Blue Sky and I have a substack.
Speaker 2: But everything that you see is going to be at
Speaker 2: the hoodwitch, So you just have to make sure that
Speaker 2: you're not getting scammed. And look on Raz's page and
Speaker 2: see that like all of my links will be there.
Speaker 1: Love it. Well, thanks so much for doing this.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so happy
Speaker 2: that I could tell my ghost stories. I could talk
Speaker 2: with you forever.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, thank you so much. To breathe. I am
Speaker 1: just over here getting my panties ready for some tea
Speaker 1: that I will be serving on my tour. Actually no,
Speaker 1: that's not true. I'm not gonna make you fall in
Speaker 1: love with me that way, but I might with my jokes,
Speaker 1: So I hope to see you in person. I'd love
Speaker 1: to meet you anyway. That was that. That was fun.
Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me
Speaker 1: gay on. This has been an exactly right production. Want
Speaker 1: to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read
Speaker 1: stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so
Speaker 1: email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.
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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kottner. Additional production support from the
Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by
Speaker 1: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon, artwork by the spooky
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth carro In. Executive
Speaker 1: produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia hard Start,
Speaker 1: and the frightening Danielle Kramer.