WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Chess Pieces 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:07.920 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:09.559 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:12.880 Cowboys. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:19.680 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:25.160 World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.520 Heckma Harrison, and Newie Scruggs. 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:33.720 Players Lounge Time, Let's ride. 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.280 It is Wednesday, workday here at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:39.480 We are at the S Podcast studios. 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.760 This is the Players Lounge. Bought that you buy Aristocrat. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:43.239 Gaming, Heck Maharrison. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.440 You see a Barry Church, you see scrugs. Lots of 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:52.360 work to do hereof who's gonna play? That's really gonna be? 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.880 What for both teams in this football game? Who's available, 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:57.200 who's playing? 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:02.080 Who's suiting? Ut offense? Do we got any word? Defensively? 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.039 Is the bazooka gonna shut up this week? I know 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:06.039 tank out for a while? 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.759 Suit up, man, that's a Carson. Carson making a comeback 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.479 secondary full straight. Who knows it's it's hurt versus hurt? 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:21.200 It it's hurt verse hurt. This is this, This is 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.199 a matchup. I'll tell you what it's It's more about 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.720 who's not playing and who is at this point. 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.480 I mean, that's the marquee thing. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.760 It sucks that you have a matchup like this and 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.240 you don't have all of the players to have a 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:35.440 primetime game like this. I mean that's that's the one 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.240 thing about this that really is like, it sucks. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:39.560 It sucks. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.560 You know, Dallas Cowboys definitely don't have all of their 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.640 their weapons on defense if you go into this game. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.040 For me, I think the one key guy that I'm 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.960 looking at this you know, uh injury report to see 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:55.240 if he starts practicing by you know tomorrow, I'm looking 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:59.600 for tomorrow is Kendricks. You know, we talked about it a 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.240 little bit yesterday. I just think that when you go 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.440 up against the Shanahan offense, you're going to need the 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.920 captain on the guy that gets everybody lined up ready 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.400 to go, because they hit you with so many different things, 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.840 as you've seen on film already, that if you're not 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:14.959 prepared for these guys are not lined. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.320 Up, man, it could it could. You could get out 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.040 flanked in her. And that's what he does. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.959 He plays with defender's eyes out there, and that's why 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:23.959 you need a veteran guy like Kendricks. What is he 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.080 in you're eleven year twelve, who seem pretty much every 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.360 offensive scheme there is out there all right, And you 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.520 gotta have a guy like that that can calm your 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.120 defense down when things start going to ride, when people 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.280 may be hitting the wrong gaps or their you know, 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.880 play action and people aren't having contained on party. This 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:40.880 is a guy that can control things and make sure 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.360 everybody's in the right place at the right time. Because 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.000 you just talked about what Shanahan loves to do. He 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.000 has so many different variations of the same exact run. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.280 It could be a power going straight, you know, right 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.600 right at the C gap, D gap, whatever the case 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.120 may be. But he pulls so many different linemen. One day, 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.160 he'll bore one time, he'll pull guard. One time, he 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.639 might have the center pool and it's just playing. 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:02.880 With your eyes. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:04.960 That's why you gotta have that guy back there that 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.720 can calm everything down, make sure everybody's reading their keys 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.200 and reacting well. And that's why Kendricks to me talked 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.320 about it before the season, that's the quarterback. If he 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.680 can be durable out there, this defense has a chance. 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.440 But to me, not only him being healthy out there, 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.160 I would love to see these corners. I would love 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.000 to see these corners be able to go out there 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:23.720 and give it one hundred percent. I'm talking about Bland, 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.960 I'm talking about Carson out there, because if you can 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.560 get those guys out there that can lock up on 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.480 the outside, that allows you to bring an extra guy 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.480 down into that box to help against the run. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.400 We know the run is the weakness of this defense 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:36.280 so far this season. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.840 If you've got guys that can lock down on the outside, 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:40.480 you got a better chance out there. 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.080 We know what Diz can bring to the table. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.280 If Bland can be seventy five percent of what he 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.560 was last year, that's good enough for me. Carson, he's 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.880 showing the ability that he can do things as well, 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.040 and Jeordan Lewis is locking down the slot. To me, 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.120 it's that linebacker spot and those corners that are necessary 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:55.360 for this defense to be successful. 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.440 When you look at when you look at San Francisco 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.560 on tape, the one thing that I think is blaring 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.960 as like you bring up an important point. They can 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.880 go twenty two, they can go twelve, they can go ten, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.800 but they running the same thing, same thing, same thing. 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.280 Flight variations and you were talking about yesterday, just a 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.800 little bit of you know, the tendencies that certain teams have. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:20.480 I don't see tendencies with this team that where they 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.279 tip their hat to one thing over another. And the 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.760 one thing that I see that from what just evaluating 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:30.920 what Kansas City did, was their safety play was imperative 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.599 to what And that's why I couldn't wait to have 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.360 this conversation, like, how do you for guys in your 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:41.120 secondary Hooker and Wilson, How important is it for those 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.360 guys because when they line up, when they bring out 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.400 twenty two and you have so many guys at the 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.760 line of scrimmage, once you get past that first line, 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:49.280 it's pretty much open. 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.000 After that, it's pretty much open, like you said. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:52.880 And also what they were able to do at their 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.360 safety spot, and I noticed this Washington Kansas City game 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.880 is even that middle of the feel safety You're always 0:04:57.920 --> 0:04:59.960 taught to be, you know, the last line of defense, 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.159 as deep as the deepest. But if you watch that 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.400 game and what Eric Reen was able to do, even 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.560 when they ran those bootlegs, and even when you know 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.200 party had time in the pocket, he was never as 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:10.120 deep as the deepest. 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.760 He was jumping a lot of stuff out there. 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.320 All those overs from Kittle, all those overs from those 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.240 wide receivers. He was jumping them because, in my opinion, 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.479 they say, look, we haven't seen on tape. You just 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.359 unleash a deep post out there. We haven't seen it. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.120 So if you do and beat us, hey we'll tip 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.320 the cat to you. But I'm jumping this stuff. And 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.120 that's exactly what they were able to do. They were 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.240 able to make in between the numbers, very muddy for 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.440 party out there, and he wasn't able to accurately, you know, 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.600 pinpoint that pass, and I was allowing those safeties. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.400 To jump it. Now here with the Cowboys, do we 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.440 see them having that ability to jump it? I hope. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.520 So somebody got to make a play out there, because 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.480 you saw those safeties, you saw those corners out there, they. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:49.599 Were jumping and sitting on everything. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.360 They didn't believe Purdy was going to be able to 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.320 stretch the football down the field he way he was 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.440 able to maybe last year. And also what I saw 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.200 was those defensive ends for their Kansas City Chiefs, they 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:00.880 kept him in there. 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:01.919 They kept him in that pocket. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.159 Even on those boot legs, he wasn't able to extend 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.039 it and kind of sit on the outside for a while. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:07.960 He had to pull up, He had to pull up 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.160 and unleash that ball. And that's what those guys were 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.000 able to do. It's a rules game for me. You 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:13.960 gotta read your kids. You gotta be on your rules. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.479 Yeah, contained, you gotta contain, especially in a game like this. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:22.279 Talk about the corners for the Cowboys receiving cool for 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:26.520 the forty nine ers devastated. It's in bad shape. Yeah, okay, 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.760 it's in bad shape. I mean Brandon Ayuk's out for 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.560 the year. Deebo Samuel was last week. Saw he was 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.599 in the hospital, so you know what his status is. 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.159 But even if he, I mean come out to the hospital, 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:37.640 but he was. I got a report he was out 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:38.719 of the hospital today. 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.600 Okay, that good. Yeah, at the hospital and you know 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:42.320 how much. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.080 Right out of the hospital. On the field is a 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.600 different thing. Yeah, of course, yes, on the. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.400 Field and then on the field effective. So that's that 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:52.000 two steps. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.880 Hey, we saw Mike Evans go play Monday night, didn't 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.559 finish the game, so that's a whole different link. Playing 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:00.920 is one thing, playing effectively is another. Might got a 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:02.760 touchdown of the game, but you couldn't finish it at 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.719 the end. And now when God went out, you know, 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.120 Tampa Bay's got some issues here, so uh at the 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:08.760 wide receiver spots. So that's my only thing with the 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.280 forty nine. Who's available and who's available to play at 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:15.880 a high level. So our thoughts on the corners may 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:20.400 not be as big as as initially thought. Definitely not 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.480 what we thought going into the year. And speaking of corners, 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:29.640 somebody has to make a tackle when the tackle persists something, Okay, you. 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.080 Know what's what he's gonna do too, ain't gonna be 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:33.600 like I want to see if that man over there 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:34.080 can tackle. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:38.520 You remember that Kittle at k may not have to 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:42.880 worry about Kittle. Yeah, you may have to worry about Kittle. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.760 And he is one of those guys that is as 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.600 it relates to their offense, that is man like the 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.720 straw that stirs a drink. Him and your boy you 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:57.200 check baby L Boogie, big l Boodie, Big book, big book. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:07:58.760 We'll see. 0:07:58.840 --> 0:07:59.920 I don't know how long he will go, you know, 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.240 I mean, but as far as as far as the 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.960 wide receivers that you're talking about, Ricky pearsol what's like 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:12.679 by Jacob Cowie and Bronnie Bell, Ricky and Miketers. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.960 He's still he's still loud Jennings. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.360 From don't don't see him, don't Juwan Jennings. Yes he's 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.160 questionable though, Yeah he is questionable. But the one thing 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.480 that they do as a wide receiving core is they 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.000 block really well. I mean they are in your face 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.360 and so there are gonna be some challenges. But to me, 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.720 I think, you know, Jay Lou is because Jay Lou 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:34.679 will be closer to the line of scrimmage obviously. I 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.080 think Jay Lou has to have a fantastic game, not 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.760 only in coverage but also tackling. He's gonna be because 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.000 they try and capture those edges. They're gonna be coming 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.640 downhill at him. And I think the West Coast offense 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.960 presents so many quick passes, and that's why Kansas City 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:48.520 was jumping it. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.120 They're like, yeah, we don't believe an believe that you 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:52.040 need more people. 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:53.920 You know, we know if you're gonna try and get 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:55.800 over the top, we'll wait on that. And he wasn't 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.120 stepping up in the pocket. Oh, by the way, because 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.040 they got big number ninety five in that way. So 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.280 Chris Jones is gonna disrupt any of that so I mean, 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:07.040 do we have that. No, But that's what I'm saying. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.280 You need guys like Eric Kendricks to be in this game. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.920 You need your linebackers specifically as well. Man if Zim 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.880 is gonna bring any blitzes anything like that to present 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.679 pressure to you know, shut down some of these running lanes. Man, 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.600 this is the game that's gonna be very important for 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.320 the Dallas Cowboys defense because getting a win versus San 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:28.400 Francisco in their running scheme should give these guys some confidence. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:32.480 He's got to unleash Overshown. In my opinion, he's gotta 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.560 let that guy. To me, Overshan's down a linebacker that's 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.880 gonna sit there. Let me read my keys, Pat Pat 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.079 Pat okay react. He's a guy that you gotta get 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.040 him going downhill from the jump. You gotta get him 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.000 involved in the game early the games we saw where 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:45.480 he took off and he was one of them big 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.800 time players because when he was active from the very 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.320 beginning of the game, coming down hill, stopping the run, 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.000 stopping passes in the open field. You gotta get him 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.199 involved early and off and to me, I would use him, 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.960 especially if the Mizukah is not able to roll. That's 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.280 one of them those chess pieces. Just have him stagnant 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.360 at that second level. Lind him up on the edge 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:04.640 a little bit, Let him come off the edge a 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.800 little bit. Let him blitz in that that set over 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:08.480 that center. Give him a two way go. Let him 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.120 see if he can isolate that center and get one 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:11.440 on one with him out there. I know he's not 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.000 the biggest guy, but he is fast and he has speed. 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.280 You got to use him to me as a chess 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.280 piece out there, like Michael exactly wound him up on 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:19.719 how that. 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:20.400 Faked the blitz. 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.360 Do what you gotta do, but use that man as 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.440 a chess piece. I think he has some unique qualities 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.400 that can help this defense along the way. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.880 I'm not calling him this player. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.360 But when you talk about overshowing and I think of 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.640 an active linebacker, one of the best we ever saw 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.240 was active Junior Staff Junior, just that active guy out 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:43.880 there and just you know, and obviously Junior's bigger, yeah, 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:43.440 but but. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.520 But overshow just reminds me of you. Just just a guy. 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.640 Junior was just always ready to go, ready to play 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:51.800 and talking overshow and watching the play, just you know, 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:53.959 it's like like he would have. He was a perfect 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.720 guy who could have gone a junior sayous camp and 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.640 just like you know, you know, got that juice and 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.199 that cop that. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.679 Is, I mean because one of the best linebackers that 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.080 they ever played a game. Really like just his energy 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.120 on the field that you're talking about and just a 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:12.160 downhill tackler period. Yeah, that's I'm sorry, just like damn, 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:13.160 that's a that's a company. 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:13.400 Yeah. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.440 I mean, you know, you know you wanted the best 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:16.400 was just sitting there. 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.680 It's a boom. Get him going. That was his thing. 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.040 I mean, he and he was smart, you know. And 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.280 now obviously Overshowing is too and had I felt the 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.480 ability different players, but just that kind of that kind 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.720 of guy, that kind of you know, eventually your hope 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.680 is that a guy like Overshown can become a leader 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.760 on the defense. That's that's the kind of guy, you know, 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.000 as it becomes a veteran like hey man, look, follow 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.440 this dude right here early on, that's what it seems like. 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.520 We'll see where it goes here and and you know 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.720 where it goes from. But to me, it's that energy. 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.760 It's like you see it happen and it reminds me 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.800 of the guy I played with in Jacksonville named Telvin Smith. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.720 He was an undersized linebacker, but he was extremely fast, 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.640 very similar to Overshown. But when he was able to 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.760 get active early, get those TFLs, get a big hit, it. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.880 Just energized the whole defense. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.200 He'll get up, you know, he's very animated with his 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.360 you know, after his reactions and all that, and it 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.840 just got everybody just juiced up and raided role. Whether 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:08.960 people were half sleep out there, walking on the field, 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.160 whatever the case may be. Once you saw him get 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.240 that hit, let's go. He's cussing everybody. It just got 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.760 that energy everything flowing, and football is all about momentum. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.240 And like, if you can get a guy that can 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.920 juice up that defense away, I believe he can. 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.680 I mean, you know it could take off. It could crazy. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.160 Part about what you're describing about Overshown is that's what 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.559 he did at the University of Texas. Like he was 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.880 a guy that played on the outside too, So it's 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.480 not like it's not in his wheelhouse to be presented 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:36.400 as that kind of player. 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:37.600 But they need that. 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.200 I mean, you go back to that Detroit tape, they 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.920 had zero energy on no juice? 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:44.240 Who's no leader? 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:46.920 And they were they were searching for one, and you 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.880 would have expected for some of your guys, maybe in 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.120 the secondary, to be to galvanize. But I think once 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:56.520 they saw that you laying down ahead, it's old in 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:57.160 my knapsack. 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.920 That's a really I mean, that's a really good question 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.400 to ask yourself right now with Lawrence out, Parson's been 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:06.240 missing time. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.040 Who is the leader of the defense? Yeah? 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.160 That and I think in church you could you could 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.440 definitely speak to this more than anybody. It's like to me, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.840 I think leadership is not just talking it. You know, 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.720 you can you could be the rock rock guy, you know, 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:22.839 you know the dudes in the in the locker room 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.079 hit the head up against the wall and go out 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.040 there and get blasted. 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:31.760 You look like the whole speech out of it. We're 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.800 just like you just had us all and you come 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.160 out here, get ran through. So who's that guy? 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:43.080 Even even when this team was fully healthy, who was 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.120 the guy? Because we saw it, we saw it happening 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.240 when things weren't going the way this team wanted things 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.840 to go. We saw a lot of fingerpointing, We saw 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.280 a lot of guys on you know, having conversations on 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.840 the sideline that weren't the most positive conversations, and so 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.880 it's like, man, you know, who's going to be that 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:01.960 guy that's gonna step. 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.960 Up for telling me? There's nobody I can't see. I 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:05.600 can't see it. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.520 I don't know if y'all can, but I act unfortunately, 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.560 I'm not. I'm not gonna base leadership off of you know, 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.800 talking and getting the guys hype before the game. I'm 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.920 gonna base it off of production on the field. And 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.480 I didn't see that. I didn't see that unquestioned guy 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.280 that you no matter what, thirty one, he's gonna make something, 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:23.920 she gonna shake something, make something happen. 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:25.880 He's gonna get a tackle for you. I didn't. I 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:26.600 didn't see that at all. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.600 I'm not making the play. He's, you know, somebody else's talent. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.680 He's right next to that great job like hYP him 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.800 up like Roquands. 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