1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: You've never been left waiting by the phone. It's the 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Fred Shell. Hey Chris, good morning, Welcome to the program. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: How are you. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 3: I'm doing okay, how are you doing? 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Doing? All right? 6 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 4: Man? 7 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: What's going on with this woman Chelsea? We got to 8 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: kind of know everything. It's waiting by the phone, trying 9 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: to figure out maybe if you have been ghosted. So 10 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: tell us about any days that you've been on with Chelsea. 11 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Kind of how you met and where things are now, 12 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: the whole backstory. 13 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we. 14 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: Met on a dating app, pretty much like everybody does nowadays. 15 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 3: We hung out twice. Now, I mean, I thought we 16 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 3: had a pretty good time. We did talk about our 17 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: past relationships, which I know is not. 18 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: A good thing to do. 19 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 3: But I am a little worried maybe I said too 20 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: much and that might be why she's not calling me back. 21 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: I see. Okay, little self awareness on this one. You know, 22 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: this dude did some real reflection. It wasn't like I 23 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: didn't do anything. And then it turns out that he, 24 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, tried to put her feet 25 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: in his mouth or something I don't know, bottered things 26 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: to make her smell better. 27 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: He never met her before, like I. 28 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Mean, so you're saying that maybe maybe some of the 29 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: conversation was maybe some of the topics were the things 30 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: that you're not supposed to talk about on dates. But 31 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: other than that, you felt like everything went really well. 32 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 5: I do. 33 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, no feet in the mouth or anything like that. 34 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 4: Good. 35 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Now, we like to try and keep them out unless, 36 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, unless somebody wants that, and no judgment there. 37 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: But that didn't happen here. So let's play a song. 38 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: Come back, Hey, Chris, Yes, all right, welcome back. Let's 39 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: call Chelsea. You guys, you made on a dating app 40 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: a lot of that's pretty much everybody meets, and you 41 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: went on two dates. You felt like everything went really well. 42 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: But you've reached out since the second date and you 43 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: haven't heard back from her in any form, and you 44 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: want to know why you feel like you're being ghosted. 45 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: You have no idea why. Yeah, I mean, like I said, 46 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: it might. 47 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: Be because I brought up some past relationships stuff, but otherwise, yeah, 48 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: I really don't know. 49 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean, but that does people do talk about that, 50 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: of all the things. So let's call Chelsea now and 51 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: and try and figure this out. 52 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: Good luck, Thanks man. Hello, Hi, this Chelsea Chelsea. Good morning. 53 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: My name is Fred. 54 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm calling from the Fred Show, the Morning radio show, 55 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: and I have to tell you that we are on 56 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: the radio right now and I would need your permission 57 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: to continue with the call. 58 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: Can which have for just a second? Would you mind? 59 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, that's that's fine. 60 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. We appreciate that we're calling on behalf. 61 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: I mean, she seemed like optimistic, but we'll see. We're 62 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: calling on behalf of a guy named Chris. I guess 63 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: you recently went a couple of days with Chris. 64 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: Do you remember him? Yes? 65 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: I do? Okay, Well, he called us and he had 66 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: nice things to say about you and said that he 67 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed the dates that you went on, and apparently he's 68 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: reached out for another one and you're not responding to 69 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: him at all, so he's trying to figure out, you know, 70 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: why you might be ghosting him. 71 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, yeah, we. 72 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 4: Met on a dating app and like everyone does, and 73 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: after talking for a little bit, he got my number 74 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 4: and asked me out, and more than a few times 75 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 4: he brought up how important trust is and how he's 76 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 4: had women lie to him in the past, and it 77 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: seems pretty clear to me that he had been hurt 78 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 4: and he clearly hasn't worked through it or like let 79 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: it go. I didn't love like all the X talk 80 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 4: or him you know, seemingly having like a chip on 81 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 4: his shoulder about women. But he did seem a little 82 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 4: nervous and tipsy. So I just chalked it up to 83 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: like first date jitters, and I wanted to give him 84 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: a second chance. 85 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: Okay. 86 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: So when he picks me up for our second date, 87 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: he told me he had a surprise for me, and 88 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: the surprise ended up being a lie detector test. Stop organized, 89 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: stop it. 90 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: I wish he took examiner on the second date, like 91 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: a fun yeah, I mean like an escape rule would 92 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: be one thing, But like he took you. 93 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know a nice when they hook 94 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: you up? What? Wow, I don't even know where you 95 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: find that? Is there a story? Is there a group 96 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: for that? 97 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: Like? 98 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: What did he take you to the FBI? Like? 99 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so he took you to get a legitimate. 100 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, And he for his reasoning was he said that 101 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: way we could start things off with a clean slate 102 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: on the right foot. And he told me he had 103 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 4: some questions and they would be like have you ever 104 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 4: cheated on someone. Have you ever lied to a partner? Wow? 105 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: I know it's past and right, well, I'm told him 106 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: he wasn't going to take the test because it's stupid, 107 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 4: and I. 108 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: Don't blame you. I wouldn't hey, I would have known 109 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: that I would have crazy. And how did that go over? 110 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: He slept out and said like, see, I knew this 111 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: was too good to be true. I never like I 112 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 4: lecked and never like oh, he just was like freaking out. 113 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: I believe this guy had a light. He's hector test 114 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: line up. I feel like he wanted to see if 115 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: you do it. And then when he said that you 116 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: you wouldn't any you know, because I don't even know 117 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: who to call. You call the Captain Stee. I guess 118 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Steve, our guy, you know, and maybe he's not 119 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: somebody who does this but Greco Yeah yeah, oh yeah, 120 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: we'll call that guy left on this day of the investigation. 121 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: Let me bring Chris in, Chelsea. I'm starting to rupt you, 122 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: but he's on the phone. I failed to mention that 123 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm very forgetful. But Chris, what are we doing? You 124 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: said you talked about past relationships. Fine, a lie detector test? 125 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 5: Well, to be honest. 126 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: I think she's kind of exaggerating the situation a little bit. 127 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: It was more like a playful kind of day. It 128 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: was just to see, you know, hey, let's let's be honest. 129 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: Because when she brought up her exes, I felt like 130 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: she wasn't being one hundred percent honest. 131 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: So I really didn't think it was that big of 132 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: a deal. So let's just you would want to know 133 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: some stuff too. 134 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: Let's swing by the station and we'll get to some 135 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: electrodes and let's let's see. Let's see if you're really 136 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: telling the truth. Dude, you're not entitled to that information. Like, 137 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: it's very clear that you don't trust people. I'm sorry 138 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: for whatever the you know the catalyst for that is. 139 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: But for whatever reason you don't trust people, I'm sorry. 140 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: But like, you don't just get to go hook everybody 141 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: up to a light detector test and even then I'm 142 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: not even sure that's how that works. 143 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: Well, no person would mind taking a light detector. 144 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: Taking detector. I don't know you. I didn't come murder. 145 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 5: Chris when I because when I got home, you texted 146 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 5: me that you forgave me and I owe you a drink. 147 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: That's the point where things got strange for you. I see, okay, 148 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, no, no, I'm not. 149 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: I'm not. 150 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: I love it. 151 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: Unprompted. I forgive you like that. 152 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: By the way, this girl was right. But this reminds 153 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: you of the first date that I went on. I've 154 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: told you guys about it before. This is a long 155 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: time ago. But I went on a first day. I 156 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: had the next day off, and the date was kind 157 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: of flat, and so I'm like, I'm going home and 158 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: she was like, what do you want to Let's go 159 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: another place. I'm like, now, I'm gonna go home. Why 160 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: didn't I left? And I went to hang out with 161 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: my buddies because I was off the next day. And 162 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: she facetimed me like eight times in a row because 163 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: she wanted me to answer, to prove that I. 164 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: And then she was right. I was absolutely out of 165 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: the bus. But I can do that. 166 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I did lie. I did lie to her, 167 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: but you're not entitled to know that. Like, we went 168 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: on a day, we had two drinks, it was a 169 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: nice time, and then I left and went somewhere else. 170 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: I have every right to do that, but she called 171 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: over and over again. I had to be FaceTime and 172 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: then when I wouldn't pick up, it's like you liar 173 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: and I was. But that's it's not the point. I 174 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: can lie to someone and I don't. I don't know 175 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: after two dates, how you believe that you're entitled to 176 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: that level of access to someone's psyche, Like you gotta 177 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: trust issues, bro, you're gonna have. I mean, that's attractive 178 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: in itself. 179 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: That's not helping, Chris fred I don't know. I think 180 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: I'm asking the wrong person here. It sounds like you're 181 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: a liar. 182 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I mean, you're not going 183 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: to I have absolutely lied, but I'm honest about it. 184 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: But I'm not asking people. You're insane, Chris. 185 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm we're not stopping by the bureau you hooked up 186 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: to get your deepest darket secrets. I'm not entitled to 187 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: that information the same way that girl's not entitled to 188 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: know where I am after a date. 189 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: So I'll take lie detectors on the show. I'm busy. 190 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: So actually, you know what I would too, because I 191 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: don't think there's anything that I would have to lie about, Like, 192 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: you know. 193 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: Are you going to the club or are you not? 194 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: I went to the club I did. 195 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: All right, Look, Chelsea, I'll ask the question, no lie detector, 196 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: but you want to give this guy another chance? I 197 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: know the answer, but if you you know whatever, surprise me. 198 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Okay, all right, Well we're all liars, Chris 199 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: so sorry. 200 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently you guys are a bunch of liars and 201 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: don't care about honesty. 202 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: That's fine. Whatever. 203 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: If i'm you, find another way to regain trust rather 204 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: than strapping everybody in. 205 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: It's called therapy. No, keep doing this, don't work. That 206 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: man a group on. It's expensive, I'm sure