1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Let's go behind enemy lines and get inside the head 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: of the Houston Texans with John Harris Radio television, Houston 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Texans dot Com analysts, Texans Radio sideline reporter as well 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: and a Jacksonville guy. Hi, John, how are you. I'm 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: doing well, JP. You know when the nine oh four 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: number popped up on my phone, I told Joe, well, 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: it just it feels good to see that number again. 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss Jacksonville this year because we're going to London, 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: but you know, at least Jacksonville is coming here, and 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: it's always kind of a tough day to see the Jacks. 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: On the other side, I will admit that is really 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: really hard to see them over there because that was 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: a team that, you know, the the Oilers had. You know, 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: we're leaving Houston and so I was living in Jacksonville, 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: so Jacksonville became my team. So it's it's been tough 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: to see them and and I think it'll be a 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: tough ball game on Sunday, But looking forward to seeing 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: Anne the less. Before we delve into the game too 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: too much. What years were you the head coach at 20 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: the Piscopal High School? Well, I got there and they 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: finally at me the job in so I was. I 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: left in two thousand one, so I had a job 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: from two thousands and my last year in two thousand 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: we made the playoffs for the first time in school history. 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: So you know, Mark Ronnell is doing a great job 26 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 1: with a piscbal, but he will not hold the honor 27 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: of the first coach to get a fistbal to the playoffs. 28 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: That wow, congratulations, John. Um we're excited for the Eagles 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: and what they're gonna do this year. Um, let's get 30 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: to the Jaguars Texans matchup, and you know, it seems 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: like the Texans are in win now mode. If you 32 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: look at those trades. What is the reaction in Houston 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: to the Clowney deal and the Tunsil deal? And is 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: it different outside the building than it is inside the building? 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: It is. I think you're absolutely right, JP. I think 36 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: it is a team that feels like, hell, let's win now. 37 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: Let's win now. We've got J. J. Watt in year eight, No, 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: year nine? Wow? Wow? Uh? Deannor Hopkins in year seven. 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: You're Deshaw Watson's the third year guy. Now you it's 40 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: it's win now time. You know you're not gonna sit. 41 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: This window isn't gonna stay open for a significant period 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: of time, so we gotta you gotta win now. And 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: it's interesting you bring up the trade. The Connie trade 44 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: was not well received at all, and for good reasons. 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: People looked at Clowney and thought he was one of 46 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: the most disruptive players in the NFL, and the Textans 47 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: are giving up on him. And I say this to everybody. Look, 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that none of us seek, 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: and I think that is something that because we don't 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: see it. I think that's kind of what creates the confusion. Like, 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: wait a second, I see him on Sunday doing such 52 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: good things. Not all the time, but in certain circumstances, 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: he's the best player in the field, and then there 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: are other times where he is not that guy. So yeah, 55 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that felt like the 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: Texans got fleasd on adeal with Seattle. And I'm not 57 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: gonna say that I'm one of them, but I was 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: not happy that j D was leaving because I feel 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: like j D would have been a really good piece 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: on this defense. The other side of it is the 61 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: Tunsil deal. Larrmy Tunsil is outstanding and I've been following 62 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: up for a long time obviously Jacksonville connection to him 63 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: being at Columbia High School, you know, just down the road, 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: uh from Jacksonville. He is a guy that really changes 65 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: what we can do on offense because he can handle 66 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: some of the rushers like Yannick and got Way and 67 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Colas Campbell. He can handle those guys 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: one on one. We didn't have anybody that walked into building. 69 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: They can handle any of those guys. So Tunso gives 70 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: us a shot to do some different things offensively. And 71 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: I think we saw that really start on Monday night 72 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: against the Saints, and we gotta be able to carry 73 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: that over against a really good, physical and fast Jacksonville defense. 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: John Harris with US from Texans Radio and Television. DeShawn 75 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: Watson had some big throws in that game in New 76 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: Orleans on Monday night, but he also took some big hits. 77 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: And that's been the case. You mentioned the offensive line there, 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: they haven't had the protection around him. How have you 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: seen though Watson developed even with that pressure around him 80 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: and taking hits and doing all that, It seemed like 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: just a kind of a different looking guy on Monday Night. 82 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: Well if he first of all, he's not coming off 83 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: the h c L there. I think that's that's one 84 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: thing you Last year he spent in the entire you're rehabbing. 85 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: This year, he spent the off season really kind of 86 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: diving back into into the film and watching himself and 87 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: seeing things slow down. And I think he's driven a 88 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: lot jp by that loss to the culture the playoff game. Look, 89 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: nobody played well that day for us, nobody, but I 90 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: think de Shaun took a lot of that on his 91 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: shoulders and felt like he's gotta he's got to grow. 92 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: And I think that's the one thing in watching him 93 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: and we have practices against the Packers and the Lions, 94 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: and it just felt like things were happening quicker. He 95 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: was seeing things quicker. He's been told a command at 96 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. He is in total command. He's 97 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: walking up the line of scrimmage in an environment where 98 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: you couldn't hear yourself think, and he's communicating, changing the 99 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: mic point, what he's seeing, all the different looks. He's 100 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: handling a lot of that. And he's working with Nick Martin, 101 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 1: who just signed the extension uh the center for the Texans, 102 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: and they're working together on things, but the game is 103 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: I think slowing down for him a little bit. And look, 104 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: some of the sacks of the sixty two last year 105 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: and some of the six the other night, some of 106 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: those are on are on the sewan because that's the 107 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: way he plays. He wants that big shot, you know. 108 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: He he wants the dollar, even though the nickel might 109 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: be sitting out there, to go grab the nickel really easy, 110 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: just stow that a little check down that's put the 111 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: nickel in your pocket. He wants the dollar. He wants 112 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: that big time money throwing the ball down the field. 113 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: So you're gonna live with some of that. Where he's 114 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: got to be smart, though, is to not take the 115 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: big hit too. You know the play that he scored 116 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: a touchdown on, you know, he gets kind of flipped up, 117 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: lands on his backside and you're like, oh, man, Sean, 118 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: look go on a three yard lines. We'll we'll take 119 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: our chances with with what we got to pound it in. 120 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: And he's just like, nope, I'm gonna put this thing 121 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: in the end zone. Last year we had trouble scoring. 122 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure that we score and I'm gonna 123 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: go in. So there's kind of this risk reward game 124 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: that you've got to play with the Seawan. And I 125 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: think as he continues to play get more reps, I 126 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: think he's gonna end up being fine and he's not 127 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: gonna keep taking those chances. But I think he just 128 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: kind of gotta swash swashbuckling mentality is that it's really 129 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: hard to get out of his system. And I think 130 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien talks him, Sayce, look, I don't want to 131 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: hold you back from that. I just want to make 132 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: sure that you're smart when you take kind of the 133 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: ultimate risk as he did that run on fourth down 134 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: against the Saint. But man, it pays off because I'm 135 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: telling you, with fifty seconds left in the game and 136 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: we're seven five yards away with no time out, I'm 137 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: still thinking we've got a shot, and it too plays 138 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: bang bangs, we take the lead. So that's the power 139 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: of the Shawn Watson for this organization. So you live 140 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: with some of the holding the ball a little bit 141 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: too long, taking some risks. You live with that because 142 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: the reward is oh so beautiful. John Harris with us 143 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: from Texans Radio. Final Thought here defensively. How many times 144 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: in j J. Watts's career as he had a shutout 145 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: on the stat sheet, that was the first one. I 146 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 1: think that's the first one in a hundred and five games. 147 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: I believe that was the first one he was he 148 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: was shut out now And it's interesting you bring it up, JP, 149 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: because when you go back to watch the game, you 150 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: see plays that he impacted. You know, the interception by 151 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: Whitney Merciless was in large part because j J had 152 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: looped up in the middle of the field, beat Eric 153 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: McCoy the center and moved Drew Brees off the spot 154 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: he has to throw. Merciless takes it off, so he 155 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: had someplace to impact the game. But j J internalizes 156 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: the stats, the sacks, those things because those are you 157 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: can see that impact. So after the game he was frustrated, 158 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: really frustrated. Yesterday at the podium, when he walked up 159 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: to the podium, I was like, oh my gosh, he's 160 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: still angry. He still had angry face on. So hopefully 161 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: he well not for you guys, but for us, Hopefully 162 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: he's able to unleash and that will never happen again. 163 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: And you know, he's never had a game like that 164 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: where he introduce the stats. I mean, he's never and 165 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: I hope he never does it again. But he's got 166 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: a lot to prove. I think to himself that, yeah, 167 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: he can still do this in year nine against a 168 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: pretty physical jack to the offensive line. So he knows 169 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: the challenge. He also knows it's the home opener. I 170 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna go sack less in this one, 171 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: no matter what happens. All right, John, always appreciate your time. 172 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: Great talking to you. Enjoy the game, man. Thanks, you 173 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: appreciate your brother