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Speaker 2: On the loose, still no suspect arrested in the Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk assassination. This morning, the FBI releasing new photos and

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Speaker 2: We will have the very latest plus ugly hate. After

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Speaker 2: MSNBC fired analyst Matthew Dowd for his despicable remarks during

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Speaker 2: their coverage of Charlie Kirk's assassination, will the rest of

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Speaker 2: the mainstream media now start to look in the mirror.

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Speaker 2: We're not holding our breath, but we will explore and

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Speaker 2: keeping the faith.

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Speaker 3: What can God's word.

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Speaker 2: Teach us about how to stay strong in dark and

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Speaker 2: tragic times? The Bible history guys, Jim Moseley is gonna

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Speaker 2: be here to break that down.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have those stories of more.

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Speaker 2: His American Sunrise concludes the week and we start right now.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, America, US, Welcome to American Sunrise.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's culture.

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Speaker 4: We have breaking news to share with you.

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Speaker 3: Politics.

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Speaker 2: President Trump is joining us live now from Florida.

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Speaker 3: We've got your coming.

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Speaker 2: This is what it looks like to be a patriot.

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Speaker 3: We have to protect the American family.

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Speaker 4: The American dream is still alive.

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Speaker 3: I'm David Brody, I'm Terrence, and.

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Speaker 4: I'm doctor Tina. Good morning everybody. I'm doctor Gina. We

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Speaker 4: are live with you from the Palm Beaches. Let's bring

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Speaker 4: in David Brody, he's in Washington, DC, and Terrence Bates

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Speaker 4: in our Genver newsroom. Good morning, gentlemen, Hey Gina.

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Speaker 3: Morning, Doctor Gina, and David. Good morning.

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Speaker 5: So look, there's new information out this morning related to

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Speaker 5: the man hunt, the ongoing man hunt for the person

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Speaker 5: accused of killing Charlie Kirk. This is surveillance video the

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Speaker 5: FBI released and it basically shows and you'll see this

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Speaker 5: momentarily the suspect literally running across the roof of this

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Speaker 5: run away from the crime scene. So this is new

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Speaker 5: video out. The FBI also out with some pictures of

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Speaker 5: to go with this there's the picture right there, obviously

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Speaker 5: asking for the public's help. There's a big reward out

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Speaker 5: and hopefully someone recognizes this person and can help track

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Speaker 5: him down. In the meantime, guys, you tall. Governor Spencer

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Speaker 5: Cox also warning about disinformation that's out there.

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Speaker 6: For those For those people who are spending so much

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Speaker 6: that when things get get bad, we should put our

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Speaker 6: There is a tremendous amount of disinformation. We are tracking

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Speaker 6: We have bots from Russia, China, all over the world

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Speaker 6: that are trying to instill disinformation and encourage violence. I

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Speaker 5: Doctor Gina the sooner, police and the FEDS and all

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Speaker 5: those involved catch this alleged shooter.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully the sooner we'll all.

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Speaker 5: Get more answers as to why, and hopefully there will

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know about you, but I felt, you know, better,

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Speaker 2: Then they have cashpitel the FBI director go over there

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Speaker 4: I think those are all super legitimate questions, David, and

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Speaker 9: Listen, before we begin, let me express the horror and

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Speaker 7: I felt Charlie.

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Speaker 9: Was a giant of his generation, a champion of liberty,

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Speaker 9: and an inspiration to millions and millions of people. Our

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Speaker 10: Fantastic people they are.

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Speaker 7: We miss him greatly.

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Speaker 9: Yet I have no doubt that Charlie's voice and the

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Speaker 9: I will soon be awarding Charlie Kirk posthumously the Presidential

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Speaker 9: Medal of Freedom. The date of the ceremony will be announced,

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Speaker 7: Will have a very big crowd, very very big.

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Speaker 4: For more, Let's bring in the editor in chief of

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Speaker 4: Bright Part News, Alex Marlowe. Alex, thank you for being

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Speaker 4: with us today. Alex, First, just to let you speak

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Speaker 4: to your memories of Charlie. Good morning. It seems like

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Speaker 4: Alex has sounds off a little bit, David. I want

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Speaker 4: I thought, how perfect that we're having Alex marlow because

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Speaker 4: those are the kinds of questions that bright Bark would ask, exactly.

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Speaker 4: You're such a veteran of this business, it does seem

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Speaker 4: ridiculous that they just categorically reject all things online. We're

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Speaker 4: just not supposed to go online. Now, little Americans, go

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Speaker 11: Well, good morning, guys, Art here we got Alex.

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Speaker 10: Go ahead, Yeah, that was my bad.

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Speaker 11: I apologize, and good morning did Terrence, doctor Gena, and David.

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Speaker 11: First of all, let me start by thinking David for that,

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Speaker 10: Why did you agrin to say thank you, thank you?

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Speaker 10: What is going on here?

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Speaker 11: And the FBI director, who I support greatly. I just

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Speaker 11: We're rooting for you, we believe in you. But we

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Speaker 10: And activism where he inspired millions of people.

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Speaker 11: And we can't find his killer. We have video of him,

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Speaker 11: know what country's from. We don't anything about this guy

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Speaker 5: President Trump saying that a suspect is now in custody.

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Speaker 13: In breaking news from real America's voice.

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Speaker 14: Just to protect us all and so Fox doesn't get

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Speaker 14: I think with a high degree of certainty, we have him.

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Speaker 14: We're in custody, in custody. Everyone did a great job.

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Speaker 5: Get justice for him immediately, Alex, if I may, what

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Speaker 11: They tried to kill Steve Scalice, they tried to kill

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Speaker 3: No, no, that's my point.

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Speaker 5: Because the news that we got again. President Trump somewhat

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Speaker 2: As we just reported President Trump announcing that in all

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Speaker 14: us all and so Fox doesn't get sued and we

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Speaker 14: all don't get sued and everything else, but I think

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Speaker 14: with a high degree of certainty we have him. We're

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Speaker 14: in custody, in custody. Everyone did a great job. We

446
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Speaker 14: worked with the local police, the governor, everybody did a

447
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Speaker 14: great job, you know, getting somebody that you start off

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Speaker 14: with absolutely nothing, and we started off with a clip

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Speaker 14: that made him look like an ant, that was almost useless.

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Speaker 14: We just saw it was somebody up there. And so

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Speaker 14: much work has been done over the last two and

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Speaker 14: a half days. You know, it's amazing actually when you

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Speaker 14: start off with that and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 14: you get lucky or talent or whatever it is. But yeah,

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Speaker 14: we're I think we're in great shape. Father and went

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Speaker 14: to a US marshal who was fantastic, by the way,

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Speaker 14: and the person was involved with law enforcement, but was

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Speaker 14: a person of faith, a minister, and I brought him

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Speaker 14: to a US marshal who was fantastic, and the father

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Speaker 14: convinced the son and this is it. And again I'm

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Speaker 14: always subject to be corrected, but you know, I'm just

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Speaker 14: giving you based on what I'm hearing. They'll give you

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Speaker 14: a much more active I just heard about it five

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Speaker 14: minutes before I walked in. As I'm walking in, they said,

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Speaker 14: looking real good. They have the person that they wanted.

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Speaker 1: So all right, well, this is just fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in retired Navy coeal officer, former enlisted marine

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Speaker 2: along with scout snipers. Well, Mike Sirelli, Mike, you're reacting

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Speaker 2: to what we're hearing. President Trump hedging it a little bit,

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Speaker 2: saying what he's hearing.

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Speaker 3: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking I'm scoured and by the way, if having

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Speaker 2: my glasses on, I'm looking down, I'm listening to you.

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Speaker 1: I'm able to multi task here.

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Speaker 2: But I'm also checking to see if we have any

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Speaker 2: official FBI, SLASH, any sort of agency that has come

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Speaker 2: out and said anything.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we've got.

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Speaker 2: Nothing official yet right, so, and once again, and I

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Speaker 2: just want to be clear, I'm not doubting necessarily at

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Speaker 2: all what President from saying, but the fact that the

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Speaker 2: way he is saying it, I think we all need

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Speaker 2: to just take a step back. Even he's taking a

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Speaker 2: step back to say, yeah, and then give me details,

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Speaker 2: but we don't have anything official.

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Speaker 1: Mike, go ahead.

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Speaker 18: So guys, if the news prove's true, that that is

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Speaker 18: amazing news that we've got our guy. You know, if

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Speaker 18: it's true the father and this minister a man of faith.

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Speaker 18: Was this ironic? Given Charlie Kirk was a man of

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Speaker 18: conviction and faith and the appalling nature of the crime,

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Speaker 18: A father and a minister turned him in. They most

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Speaker 18: likely saw the photos, were appalled by what their son

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Speaker 18: or this young man did and turned him in. So

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Speaker 18: they are still in the fact finding phase. They have

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Speaker 18: to interview this individual. And you're right, let's temper uh.

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Speaker 18: I hate to say excitement or resolve, but let's find

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Speaker 18: out if indeed it is the person of interest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, scouring and just can't can't. There's just there's nothing,

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Speaker 4: there's not even I've never seen an incident like this

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Speaker 4: in my entire life where a president goes on a

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Speaker 4: news program. Yeah, it makes the same like that, and

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Speaker 4: I'm and I'm looking at news and I just keep refreshing,

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Speaker 4: and I put in suspect and custody, custody, and there's

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Speaker 4: just there's nothing.

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Speaker 2: Can I can I just say, real quick, Gene, don't

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Speaker 2: you agree at this point it's just kind of a free,

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Speaker 2: willing conversation.

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Speaker 3: Don't you agree that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, President Trump has to be right here right

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Speaker 2: when I say it has to be right, we got it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're.

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Speaker 5: Wrong with guys, let's let's let's step back a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Yes, he is hedging absolutely, and we want absolutes at

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Speaker 5: this point, but he's also saying the information that he

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Speaker 5: was sharing was little really passed to him as he's

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Speaker 5: walking on the set, so he's probably gotten some sort

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Speaker 5: of confirmation. But again, to be fair and to be legal,

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Speaker 5: he's stepping back a little bit and hedging and saying,

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Speaker 5: this is the information I'm getting. I'm still waiting for

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Speaker 5: more confirmation. That's the implication of what we heard, Mike.

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Speaker 5: But still this is the information that I'm getting. And

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Speaker 5: I'm sure more information will come out here in short order.

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Speaker 3: As this is a developing situation.

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Speaker 5: But Mike, I'm curious, bigger picture, how important is an arrest,

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Speaker 5: How important will it be for our country moving forward

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Speaker 5: to get information about the motivation, about the process, what

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Speaker 5: really happened, because at this point we really don't have

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Speaker 5: those details, and it seems to me that those details

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Speaker 5: is what is going to ease fears and ease concerns

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Speaker 5: and take some of the heaviness off of people's hearts.

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Speaker 18: Well, I think the fact that one if we did

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Speaker 18: get him in, we got him alive, We're going to

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Speaker 18: get some answers the driver behind his ideology and his

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Speaker 18: motives to take out such an amazing man, one of

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Speaker 18: the most brilliant minds of our time, a father, a husband,

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Speaker 18: and why he would did this, and then trace his

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Speaker 18: linkage back to was he motivated by a certain ideological group?

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Speaker 18: Is he a far left extremist, which the probability is

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Speaker 18: extremely high, And then there are real debates to happen

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Speaker 18: of who we hold accountable and the left got to

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Speaker 18: pass after the failed assassination attempts on Trump and nothing changed, guys.

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Speaker 18: For for Charlie Kirk, this is a turning point. This

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Speaker 18: is a watershed moment, and the left needs to be

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Speaker 18: held accountable. And this is the peak, or this is

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Speaker 18: the irony. They've called us fascists, they've called us Nazis.

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Speaker 18: Now you know what does a what does a true

549
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Speaker 18: fascist group do? They silenced their opposition through murder, not debate.

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Speaker 18: They weaponize fear. And also it is the destruction of

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Speaker 18: the rule of law, which we have seen for the

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Speaker 18: past few years. They are the peak in the height

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Speaker 18: of fascism. And you know, one of the things I

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Speaker 18: would say is we can't keep these blinders on. We

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Speaker 18: can't continue to look at the world through rose colored

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Speaker 18: glasses because if you do that, and you you try

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Speaker 18: to push off that you're not at war, you actually

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Speaker 18: take more casualties. This needs to say the left, and

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Speaker 18: it needs to be addressed decisively.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm chomping at the bit here because you

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Speaker 5: say the left needs to be held to account, needs

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Speaker 5: to be held accountable. What does that accountability look like

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Speaker 5: in your mind?

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Speaker 18: Well, I would go after start starting with all the

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Speaker 18: groups that are supporting attacks on ICE agents, that are

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Speaker 18: that are supporting these these these violent protests, go after

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Speaker 18: them to the full extent of the law. The thing

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Speaker 18: is the destruction of the rule of law we need,

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Speaker 18: and the Democrats have played this beautifully by taking district

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Speaker 18: attorney offices with far left Soros backed district attorneys who've

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Speaker 18: come up with these policies of no cash bail and

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Speaker 18: in the case of the Charlotte Killer fourteen prior arrests

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Speaker 18: which led to the death of a Ukrainian refugee, a

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Speaker 18: young woman, that is unacceptable. If somebody is a repeat

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Speaker 18: violent offender, you lock them up to the furthest extent

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Speaker 18: of the law. I do believe in second chances, but

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Speaker 18: I also have to protect the masses. If somebody is

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Speaker 18: a threat to society, if somebody is spewing ideology backed

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Speaker 18: by violence, we've got to find a way to remove

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Speaker 18: them from society and lock them up. And I know

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Speaker 18: that sounds like extreme language, But how many more Charlie

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Speaker 18: Kirks are we going to suffer? How many more Charlie

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Speaker 18: Kirks are we going to tolerate? Hey, guys, I'm angered.

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Speaker 18: I'm devastated for his family. I'm sorrowful, But I know

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Speaker 18: my friends and my crew, mostly veterans that I grew

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Speaker 18: up with and served in thought alongside, are angered by this,

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Speaker 18: This is not the country we fought for. This is

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Speaker 18: not the ideals of the American way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, does it seem to you like they should have

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Speaker 4: this suspect and custody by now? I mean when you

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Speaker 4: look at all of the different you know, quotients that

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Speaker 4: were present, you know that we've had so many threats,

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Speaker 4: everybody's been docs. Charlie had a target, everybody has a target.

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Speaker 4: And yet you know, again, we didn't sweep the roof,

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Speaker 4: We didn't have any cameras, you know, people watching to

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Speaker 4: see if somebody went on a roof just after our

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Speaker 4: president was attemptedly assassinated, you know, almost assassinated not long

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Speaker 4: ago from the exact same situation. It just seems like

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Speaker 4: there's just a lot of things that almost don't add

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Speaker 4: up here. You really can't blame people for looking at what,

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Speaker 4: according to that press conference last night, our bots online

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Speaker 4: making elegance about a bigger picture here. You don't want

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Speaker 4: to be a conspiracy theorist. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: just not a lot of this adds up. And if

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Speaker 4: this turns out where they say this is a lone guy,

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Speaker 4: just one crazy guy, oh whoops. I just don't know

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Speaker 4: if we're going to buy it again.

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Speaker 7: It's a good point in Gina.

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Speaker 18: You brought this up in the previous segment about the

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Speaker 18: security at the event. Let me say this, President Trump

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Speaker 18: had a secret Service detail. They conducted to sniper suitek poorly.

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Speaker 18: They had an overcord on. They had a counter sniper

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Speaker 18: at that event in Minnesota, and they still got it wrong.

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Speaker 18: They were able to take out that threat. Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 18: is a private civilian with a private detail, you know,

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Speaker 18: he's the private detail was most likely working with the

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Speaker 18: Utah Valley University Police Department. I was told that only

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Speaker 18: six officers were at the event, so they didn't have

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Speaker 18: counter snipers, which is costly for Charlie to to afford.

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Speaker 18: They didn't have people on the roofs uh. You know

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Speaker 18: this is a hard problem. But you know, we also

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Speaker 18: look at the I've seen a lot of reports about

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Speaker 18: this being a professional sniper. I actually disagree. You know,

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Speaker 18: the neck is what we call a low probability shot,

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Speaker 18: similar to the head. But sniper's traditional well trained military

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Speaker 18: or police snipers are trained to go for the head

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Speaker 18: or center mass. So if this was his point of impact,

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Speaker 18: but I'm sorry, point of aim, but this was the

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Speaker 18: point of impact. That's not a great shot. That said,

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Speaker 18: with a bolt action, and it was a Mauser thirty

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Speaker 18: six bolt action rifle, a two hundred yard shot is

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Speaker 18: not that difficult. So this was most likely an Internet

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Speaker 18: shooter that also got their planning in preparation for the

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Speaker 18: from the Internet to do a pre plant site selection,

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Speaker 18: a pre planned escape. And the fact that the FBI

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Speaker 18: hasn't this this is phenomenal because they didn't have the

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Speaker 18: security to initially conduct a massive sweep of the area.

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Speaker 18: This guy got out of the area most likely, but

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Speaker 18: they had seven thousand leads going through that catalog of leads,

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Speaker 18: eliminating each one with diligence until they finally got their guy.

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Speaker 18: And hopefully that that proves true here in the next

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Speaker 18: few hours.

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Speaker 5: Mike, we appreciate your perspective. Thanks for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 5: It's obviously a busy morning of news. Let's bring in

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Speaker 5: John Solomon on the phone now as we continue to

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Speaker 5: follow this latest news. President Trump saying that he believes

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Speaker 5: that the suspect in Charlie Kirk's murder is now in

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Speaker 5: custody or at very least has been identified and will

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Speaker 5: shortly be in custody.

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Speaker 3: John joining us on the phone.

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Speaker 5: John, it's my understanding and our expectation, of course, that

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Speaker 5: there will be a news conference here in short order,

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Speaker 5: potentially as soon as nine o'clock Eastern time, in which

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Speaker 5: we'll get more information.

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Speaker 3: What are your sources telling you.

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Speaker 19: John Well seven point fifty two This morning, before President

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Speaker 19: Trump went on Fox News, we confirmed that a person

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Speaker 19: of interest was detained and that they're preparing an a restaurant.

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Speaker 19: So we've known about this for about forty five minutes.

660
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Speaker 19: We were monitoring it all through the night. As I

661
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Speaker 19: said at the end of my show last night, they

662
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 19: had identified someone that they were closing in on. They

663
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Speaker 19: weren't ready yet to announce it, and I think they

664
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Speaker 19: were trying to buy some time until they could safely

665
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Speaker 19: apprehend this person. But we were able to confirm this

666
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 19: morning or on seven fifty two am, that a person

667
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Speaker 19: of interests has been detained. He matches the description. There

668
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 19: is some biometric and other data that gives them strong

669
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Speaker 19: reason to believe that this is their man. They're preparing

670
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Speaker 19: a state arrestaurant. The first charges will most likely be

671
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Speaker 19: state charges. The original plan was to do a news

672
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Speaker 19: conference at nine Utah time eleven Eastern time. That might

673
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 19: be moved up now that President Trump has put this

674
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Speaker 19: out into the public realm. But it is true. These

675
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 19: guys worked all yesterday, all last night. They were closing in.

676
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 19: They knew what they were looking for, they knew without

677
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 19: the name of the person, where they thought this person

678
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 19: was headed, and they were able to otenately apprehend them.

679
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 19: I don't get a sense that he's been very cooperative

680
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 19: and interrogation yet not surprising, but I think you will

681
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Speaker 19: see a lot unfold and what this person's connections are,

682
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Speaker 19: why they thought he's the person, what evidence they with him,

683
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 19: and what evidence led them to him. And I think

684
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Speaker 19: that that is a major breakthrough. This is the way

685
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Speaker 19: the FBI normally solves cases. It's that constant evidence zone.

686
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Speaker 19: You just add it up until you get it. And

687
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 19: right now they they feel like they may have their man.

688
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 19: So we'll keep you up the data on it. We've

689
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Speaker 19: been following this all all through the night.

690
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Speaker 2: John, you say, may have their man, So what's the

691
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: what's happening here exactly according to your sources, Like will

692
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: we hear heading from President Trump?

693
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Speaker 1: Makes sense? You say, may.

694
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Speaker 19: Why the US pretty president Trump's pretty firm, he said,

695
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 19: he's pretty certain that they got their guy. My R too.

696
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 19: The key is, you have to meet a threshold in court,

697
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 19: right and in court you got to go in Utah.

698
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 19: You have to file on a rest warrant in order

699
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 19: to say it's your man, And so they're filling that out,

700
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 19: making sure a judge will approve it. It's just part

701
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 19: of the judicial process. But the work on this case

702
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 19: has been really really solid, good just evidentiary trail stuff,

703
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 19: and there are I think when people see the explanations today,

704
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 19: they'll understand that video footage last night, and why the

705
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 19: gentleman was limping going in but not limping going out,

706
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 19: why he was able to run, why he dumped the gun,

707
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 19: why he had a screwdriver because he was assembling and

708
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 19: disassembling the gun. There will be a lot of information

709
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 19: that will put what we visually have seen with our

710
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 19: eyes into a context that we can understand why they

711
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 19: think John the man.

712
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Speaker 2: Yep, Does he have any Do you have any information

713
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Speaker 2: from your sources about the father and minister being involved

714
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Speaker 2: here that President Trump.

715
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Speaker 19: Mentioned, I don't, I know there were several. I know

716
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 19: there were several cooperating witnesses that made dis arrest possible.

717
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 19: I don't know enough to say something public. I know

718
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 19: some things a little bit, but not enough to report

719
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 19: on yet public. I've always wanted to be careful and

720
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 19: safe and not get ahead of the fact. But there

721
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 19: there were cooperating witnesses throughout this that made disarrest very possible.

722
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Speaker 4: We heard that Joe about ten. We heard the news

723
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Speaker 4: about the things that were written on it was either

724
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 4: the gun or on the bullet. What more do we

725
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: know about that?

726
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 19: There is some evidence on the inscriptions. I'm told that

727
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 19: the original ATF document may have been a little bit

728
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 19: more assertive than the actual evidence is that some of

729
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 19: these inscriptions are a little bit more vague as to

730
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 19: what they are. But I do believe that at the

731
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 19: end of the day there'll be some evidence recovered at

732
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Speaker 19: the scene that has some hints of motive or certainly

733
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Speaker 19: what the killer wanted us to believe the motive was. Now,

734
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Speaker 19: sometimes the killer tries to throw people off the scent, right,

735
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Speaker 19: so they make you think this is this type of

736
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Speaker 19: ideology is something else because they want to have time

737
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 19: to escape. So we don't know yet. What I was

738
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 19: told is that there are some inscriptions on there. They

739
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 19: were originally described in an ATF document as transgenderism and fascism.

740
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Speaker 19: I'm told that it may be a little more vague

741
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 19: when people see the world, but you know that will

742
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 19: be important evidence. What this social media footprint of this

743
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 19: person is, what was on his computer, his own his laptop,

744
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 19: all of that, all of that will be important evidence

745
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 19: to understanding what motivated a person to take such a

746
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 19: heinous action as he did.

747
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Speaker 3: John.

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Speaker 5: In my lead in to you, I teased that there

749
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Speaker 5: is expected to be a news conference this morning. It

750
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Speaker 5: could happen as soon as nine o'clock. I think you

751
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 5: mitche Yes, it could happen again as soon as nine o'clock.

752
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 5: That's what we're expecting, potentially a little bit later. But

753
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 5: the bigger point here, how forthcoming are you expecting FBI

754
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 5: officials and local investigators to be How much information will

755
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 5: they have to share at this point, given that this arrest,

756
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 5: this detainment just happened.

757
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 19: Listen, they've had a lot of information starting around six

758
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 19: o'clock last night when things really started to come together.

759
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 19: They said at the end of my show last night

760
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 19: they were really zeroing in. They've had about twelve hours

761
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 19: to process the information. They have tremendous forensics out of

762
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 19: the FBI lab in Quantago. They have tremendous digital footprinting

763
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Speaker 19: that they've done. They have a lot of things. I

764
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 19: think they'll tell enough of the story for the American

765
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 19: public to rest assure that they've got their guy and

766
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Speaker 19: that there's no longer a threat and the general narrative,

767
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 19: and then they'll save some things until they button up

768
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 19: their evidence. This has been a very transparent investigation. I

769
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 19: know it doesn't feel that way when it's only thirty

770
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 19: six hours out, but you know, every time they detain someone,

771
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 19: they immediately acknowledged them. When they said that, hey they've

772
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 19: ruled that person out, they immediately acknowledged it. That's unusual

773
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 19: law enforcement. But what it does in the fog of

774
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 19: war is it allows the defendant to know, Hey, they

775
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 19: don't got their guy. Need to be I need to

776
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 19: be on the lamb, and sometimes that forces action. They

777
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 19: were very transparent with the release of the images because

778
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 19: they believe that would help someone come forward, and I

779
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 19: think that was probably an important development in the case.

780
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 19: So there'll be some trans parency how much they go

781
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 19: into and I think they'll be careful on the motive

782
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 19: unless he's made some spontaneous admissions, or if he's told

783
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 19: the minister, or if he's told a relative why he

784
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 19: did it, there'll be a little more circumspect than that.

785
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 19: But I think they're going to try what I was

786
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 19: told this morning. They're going to try to convince the

787
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 19: public that there's no longer a threat here, that they

788
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 19: do have the person that pull the trigger, and I

789
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 19: think we'll say that goes.

790
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: I just wanted to kind of give a quick update.

791
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: We heard President Trump talk about this on Fox and Friends.

792
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: Then we have the one and only John Solomon, who

793
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: always is working the case and has great sources and

794
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: confirming a lot of this. I am now getting a

795
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: text confirming as well that a suspect is in custody.

796
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: I cannot give you the attribution based on my relationship

797
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: with this person, but I'll just simply say that this

798
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: is someone that we all can highly trust that a

799
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: suspect redeed in custody.

800
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 19: So I just with no doubt they have their There's

801
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 19: no doubt they have the guy Yeh yeh, or the

802
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 19: guy they believe it is. Listen, they always got to

803
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 19: be open as a journalist to see but the evidences.

804
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 19: But they were zeroing and and I'm starting around dinner

805
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 19: time last night, East coast time. They worked all through

806
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 19: the night. There was a great alliance between the federal, state,

807
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 19: and local authorities. And I think when they lay this

808
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 19: evidence out, there'll be a degree of confidence about why

809
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 19: they think they have this person and where the case

810
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 19: goes next. And we heard from the governor last night

811
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 19: they are seeking the death penalty.

812
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 3: Here, John Solomon, we appreciate your time.

813
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 5: Thanks so much for your reporting and your updates on

814
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 5: this particular story. Obviously, it is the big story of

815
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 5: the day at this point, we'll continue to cover it

816
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 5: in fact for more. Right now, let's bring in former

817
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 5: Navy seal and FBI special agent Jonathan Gilliam.

818
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: Jonathan, it's always good to see you. What do you

819
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 3: make of this.

820
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 5: New information that's breaking information we've been sharing.

821
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Speaker 20: Well, you know President Trump says it, then I have

822
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 20: a feeling he's pretty confident and he's a good source

823
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 20: to have that they have caught a person of interest

824
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 20: that is most likely the person that they were looking for.

825
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 20: What I don't want to see though, is that they

826
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Speaker 20: do what they did in Boston when they caught the

827
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Speaker 20: second Sarnoff brother and they just started celebrating and say,

828
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 20: we got the guy, We got him. I don't want

829
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 20: to see that because I want the investigation to play

830
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 20: out so that we can know if there was anybody

831
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 20: else involved.

832
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Speaker 17: Because this guy may.

833
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 20: Have been the shooter, there could have been other shooters

834
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 20: that were in wait, there could have been a whole

835
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 20: sale of people that were involved in the planning. I

836
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 20: want to see that investigation carried out before they say

837
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 20: it's over.

838
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 4: Jonathan, what is the situation with the school right now?

839
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: Are they still on lockdown of students gone home? I

840
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: haven't heard anything about that. And the other thing I

841
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 4: wonder if you know anything about is I've had a

842
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 4: lot of trouble of fighting out and I wanted to

843
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: ask John this, but we didn't get to it. And

844
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: you may not know, is where were Erica and her

845
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 4: children at the time of this. Were they back home

846
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 4: in Arizona or were they in the stadium at the time.

847
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 20: I think they were in Arizona at the time. I

848
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 20: don't know for sure, but I don't think that they

849
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 20: were there. I think that so I can't speculate on that.

850
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 20: But as far as the school goes, the school should

851
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 20: be on lockdown until they find this individual, because I

852
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 20: believe that that individual was a part of the school.

853
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 20: I think that the fact that he was able to

854
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 20: get there to that venue and get on that roof

855
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 20: in the amount of time that he did, and take

856
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 20: an effective shot and get out of there tells me

857
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 20: that he was familiar with the school, and I think

858
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 20: if that's the case, he's either a student or he

859
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 20: works there, and so the school has to be thinking

860
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 20: that this individual could be secreting.

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Speaker 17: Themselves back into the school.

862
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 20: So I think that that school until this is over with,

863
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 20: that things should be shut down until they know that

864
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 20: this shooter and anybody involved with him is captured.

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Speaker 5: David, looks like you're still working your sources, so i'll

866
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 5: take the next question if it's okay with you, so

867
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 5: you can continue to work your sources and see if

868
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 5: we can get more information. Jonathan, you said something that

869
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Speaker 5: I found very interesting that the investigation should continue. We

870
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 5: shouldn't be too jubilant until we've got all of the information.

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Speaker 3: I think that is critical.

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00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 5: How much information do you think the feds have at

873
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 5: this point and where do they give me a percentage

874
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 5: in terms of really having fully completed this investigation. Are

875
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 5: we at sixty seventy percent with the arrest? Where do

876
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 5: you think the FEDS may stand?

877
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 20: Well, I can't give you a percentage, but what I

878
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 20: can tell you is that when they release those pictures

879
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 20: in that video, that was a game changer.

880
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 17: Law enforcement needs to learn how to do that quicker.

881
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 20: Because we live in an information world now, and as

882
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 20: technology advances, law enforcement has to learn how to advance.

883
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 17: That's the problem.

884
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 20: They get stuck in the that's not the way we

885
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 20: do it type of mentality, and that has to change.

886
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 20: So when they put that information out, you see how

887
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 20: quickly this changes. Because if he's familiar with that area

888
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 20: and the areas familiar with him, using the public as

889
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 20: a force multiplier has to be something that law enforcement

890
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 20: is doing faster. That's how they got Luigi Mangione. That's

891
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 20: how they're probably going to get this guy. So what

892
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 20: I can tell you is that as soon as he

893
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 20: was the pictures were shown, it went exponentially faster, and

894
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 20: they got over seven thousand tips. And as those come in,

895
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 20: they have to catalog them and then they have to

896
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 20: clear them. And so that's why we got to where

897
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 20: we are now.

898
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: Jonathan talk to this point. Go ahead, David, go ahead.

899
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: Well that's a good point, because I just want to say, well,

900
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty tips at three pm yesterday, three

901
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: pm Eastern in seven thousand last night, to your point,

902
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: real quick on the timing of all of this, John

903
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: Solomon had said that this was going on, that they

904
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 2: were basically in the process of apprehending him around dinner

905
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: time or a lot of stuff was going on around

906
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: quote dinner time, and yet the press conference happened at

907
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: last night with the FBI around let's say it was

908
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: about ten pm Eastern time after that. So not to

909
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: get into the granular detail, but it's interesting that like

910
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: they knew stuff was going on, but they had a

911
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: press conference saying they didn't have anybody in custody and

912
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: they wanted the public's help, even though something seemed to

913
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: be going on before that.

914
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: Um am I missing? Am I reading that right? Or

915
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: am I getting all that wrong?

916
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 3: Were they playing possible?

917
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 19: I don't think.

918
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 17: I don't think that they were that they were playing possum.

919
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 20: I think what you saw is that they they when

920
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 20: it comes to closing in on a criminal that they're

921
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 20: tracking they can give evidence out like this so that

922
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 20: the public is more involved, but they can't give away

923
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 20: everything they know because then that individual would move further

924
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 20: away or would flee. So that's why we have these

925
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 20: press conferences, and it's a tiptoe and they were being

926
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 20: people were being critical because they did give a lot

927
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 20: of information. But I think what they did give was vital,

928
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 20: and it was vital enough where if they thought they

929
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 20: knew who the person was, that it wouldn't cause them

930
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 20: to flee completely. But anytime they give this information, now,

931
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 20: if they have an idea who the person is and

932
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 20: they put this out there, they're risking this person then

933
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 20: fleeing if they didn't have eyes on them.

934
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 17: So it was a balancing act when that press conference occurred.

935
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 4: So Jonathan, I just have to ask us, I see

936
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 4: this kid walking into this with a backpack, climbing up

937
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 4: on the roof. I mean, you can go to a

938
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk speaking event with a backpack and we now

939
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: know that. I guess, at least it sounds like as

940
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 4: fact factors are adding up that he had the gun

941
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 4: in there and a screwdriver to assemble the gun. At

942
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: least that's what it seemed like John Solomon was insinuating.

943
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 4: And so this is just common practice, is with security.

944
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 20: Well, unfortunately, doctor Gina as somebody who does threat assessments

945
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 20: all the world. That's what my company does. I did

946
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 20: over one thousand last year around the world. We go in,

947
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 20: we look at the facility from the attackers point of view,

948
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 20: and then we coordinate with the venue security, which in

949
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 20: this case would have been the college police and the

950
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 20: local authorities if they're even around. And so if this

951
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 20: was my venue and I was a security for Charlie,

952
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 20: I would have insisted because I would have looked at

953
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 20: it and said, this is where the attack could happen.

954
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 20: Let's lock down that area, the high ground, and let's

955
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 20: make sure that we have at least two law enforcement

956
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 20: over there from each corner. There were six cops there

957
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 20: from that university. From my advantage point, they were all

958
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 20: next to the stage. And that's typical. So the problem

959
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 20: is threat assessments either aren't done or they're not taken seriously,

960
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 20: and then these areas are left open for an avenue

961
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 20: of approach.

962
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 17: And as we saw this past week, somebody.

963
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 20: Always wins the lottery, and in this case, this guy

964
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 20: played the same cards as the shooter in Pennsylvania and

965
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 20: the shooter in Florida, except this time he was able

966
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 20: to kill his.

967
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 5: Target Jonathan about fifteen thirty seconds or so. We're expecting

968
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 5: a news conference to happen here with the next fifteen

969
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 5: minutes or so from the FBI with local officials.

970
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 3: What are you expecting to hear?

971
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 5: And more importantly, based on your FBI special agent training,

972
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 5: what questions do you still have that need to be

973
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 5: answered today?

974
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 17: My question is how did he get on the roof?

975
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 17: Because if it was wide open, then that is.

976
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 20: On the shoulders of that university for allowing the roof

977
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 20: to be open. But if he had some way to

978
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 20: access this roof, then that means he knows somebody at

979
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 20: the university or he works there. How did he get

980
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 20: access to that root? That I want to know who

981
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 20: asked that question? Not that I think that would have

982
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 20: been a trigger, but I want to know those particulars

983
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 20: who were the people in.

984
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 17: The audience that were cheering, and that we're raised in Ruckers.

985
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 20: Now we know weirdos are going to show up to

986
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 20: that to these events, so you kind of have to

987
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 20: take that with a grain of salt. But I primarily

988
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 20: want to know where that guy was before the event,

989
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 20: who he was talking to, and how did he access

990
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 20: that roof. I think that's going to be something that

991
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 20: allows me to say, Okay, perhaps he did it on

992
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 20: his own and the university was just incompetent and left

993
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 20: the roof unwalked. But that is a big question for.

994
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 3: Me, all right.

995
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 5: I mean, there are lots of unanswered questions, and David's

996
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 5: been working a source of involve being trying to cover

997
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 5: this again. You see at the bottom of your box, folks,

998
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 5: that is the news conference that we're expecting to start

999
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 5: here in the next nine minutes or so. About nine

1000
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 5: o'clock Eastern time is when we're hearing this go ahead, David,

1001
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 5: you're saying, well, John.

1002
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: Solomon had said that it was not am Utah time.

1003
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 2: I'm trying to confirm that, so that'd be eleven am

1004
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: Eastern now, having said that maybe the moving it up

1005
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: or maybe it is not am Eastern. But John Solomon

1006
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: had said that it was not a m Utah time.

1007
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 2: But once again John did say that that definitely could

1008
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: be earlier. But so we're I don't think we really

1009
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: know exactly when that press conference is.

1010
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 17: The same.

1011
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 20: Before I drop off, go ahead, I just want to

1012
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 20: say that, you know, I know you all knew Charlie.

1013
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 20: I met him several times, did some things for him.

1014
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 20: He was an amazing guy. I'm not worried about where

1015
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 20: he is now. That gives me great solace and knowing

1016
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 20: that he's with his Lord and savior Jesus Christ. But

1017
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 20: these things do not have to happen. Charlie did not

1018
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 20: have to die. This nation has to stop living in

1019
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 20: smoking mirrors. Crisis management security is a part of that

1020
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 20: has to become something that we understand as a nation.

1021
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 20: I understand it as an expert and as an attacker.

1022
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 20: So why don't we start incorporating serious business.

1023
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 17: This is serious.

1024
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 20: Charlie Kirk was murdered, President Trump was shut in, somebody

1025
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 20: was killed at a venue. They we have to start

1026
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 20: taking this seriously and realizing that it's serious business and it's.

1027
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 17: Not rocket science.

1028
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 20: If that guy can get on the roof, somebody can

1029
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 20: stop him from getting on the roof.

1030
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: And this has to change absolutely.

1031
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: So glad you said that, Jonathan Gilliam, thanks for sticking around.

1032
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: We appreciate it, thank.

1033
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: You, Thanks to you.

1034
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 2: But let's being let's being in a Congressman Burgess Owen's

1035
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: friend of this show and actually in Utah's fourth district

1036
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: where this shooting happened. Congressman, thanks for being with us.

1037
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: My goodness. What a heavy and sad and disturbing and

1038
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: honestly angry week. So we want to get your reaction

1039
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: to the events of this week. But before we do that,

1040
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 2: kind of give us the latest on.

1041
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: What you're hearing.

1042
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: I'm seeing here that it looks like it might be

1043
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: a ninth It looks like it's going to be a

1044
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: ninth thirty am Eastern press conference in Utah.

1045
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: So what are you hearing?

1046
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 21: What do you know, good one, I'm figuring with everything

1047
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 21: what everyone else is here, and they that they have

1048
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 21: found the person suspect that they have in custody.

1049
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 19: Uh.

1050
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 21: And I'm just saying this. You know, we've all had

1051
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 21: an opportunity to in some way interact with Charlie.

1052
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 22: Uh. He was It's hard to believe he was only

1053
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 22: thirty one years old.

1054
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 20: Uh.

1055
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 21: And yet he lived his life as we all would

1056
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 21: love to do as Christians, always talking about who we

1057
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 21: are while we're there and what he what he did.

1058
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 21: More than anything else, we talk about the idea of

1059
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 21: of ignorant free can never be. He was the example

1060
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 21: of how you fight that. That is talking, having conversations,

1061
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 21: being kind, being having a temperance where people can can

1062
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 21: can see you having these very deep conversations, and yet

1063
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 21: being able to break through because we when we talk,

1064
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 21: that's what happens. That's the power of we the people.

1065
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 21: When we talk, we do good things. And and here

1066
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 21: we have what what what I can say, just pure

1067
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 21: evil that has been rolling across our country for way

1068
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 21: too long.

1069
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 22: And I think this is a wake up I have

1070
00:52:59,120 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 22: no idea.

1071
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 21: I mean, I have no doubt this is a wake

1072
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 21: up call, not only for many of us are older

1073
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 21: who've been through the process, but young people who were

1074
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 21: beginning to begin and begin to get engaged begin to

1075
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 21: ask those questions, and they too were realizing that this

1076
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 21: is not America, this is not this is not.

1077
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 22: What Charlie talked about the vision of our country is.

1078
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 21: And so uh as tragic as this is, and and

1079
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 21: obviously we we know having father has a perfect plan,

1080
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 21: and we always we never know how that plan rolls

1081
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 21: out in the long term. But in this case, here

1082
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 21: we're going to have I think a sea change in

1083
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 21: terms of culture of our country, our culture and our

1084
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 21: young people and how they're going to be more engaged

1085
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 21: as we move forward, which we needed this particular time.

1086
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: Congressman, you pretty familiar with you. Thank you, no worries.

1087
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 4: It's a crazy day here in the studio. U Congressman,

1088
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 4: you must be pretty familiar with this university their system.

1089
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 4: You're also closer on the ground. You might be hearing

1090
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: more just from people who are on the ground than

1091
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 4: we are. I just wondered if you can give us

1092
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 4: anything on the university the reaction. Are they still locked down?

1093
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 4: Why wasn't this roof secured? Anything you've heard there on

1094
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 4: the ground about how this happened that isn't being reported

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Speaker 4: out here in the news.

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Speaker 21: Yes, I'm very fine with the universe. My two of

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Speaker 21: my girls graduate from there. It's one of the largest

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Speaker 21: ones here and in Utah. I have to understand the

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00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 21: Utah culture. This is something we don't ever consider could happen.

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Speaker 21: You have to with three thousand young people out to

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Speaker 21: enjoy themselves to have this conversation. So I'll actually be

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Speaker 21: going to the university later on today for an event

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Speaker 21: that I have been planning to get done.

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Speaker 22: It is.

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00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 21: I think it's something that again we'll have to see

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Speaker 21: what the security look like. But it's surprising because Utah,

1107
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 21: this is not what happens here. We're shocked by the

1108
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 21: fact that this kind of evil can be seen and

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Speaker 21: done in this area.

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Speaker 22: So we're doing the same.

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00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 21: I'm doing the same as zaragarone else, just trying to

1112
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 21: figure out and understand what the latest is. I know, again,

1113
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 21: as I mentioned, they have a suspect, which I'm not surprised,

1114
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 21: and we'll just have to see how it all falls out.

1115
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Speaker 21: But it's right next to my district. I'll go there

1116
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Speaker 21: quite often. Remarkable university, great leadership. Again, it's the values

1117
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 21: that we have here you taught are seen there at UVU.

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Speaker 21: So I'm just so sad that, of course said about

1119
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Speaker 21: the entire process, but said that the universe is in

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Speaker 21: spotlight like this.

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Speaker 5: Also, Congressmen just want to reset the show really quickly,

1122
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 5: as we've been saying, we're expecting a news conference to

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Speaker 5: happen here in short order, as soon as nine o'clock,

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Speaker 5: David saying that it could be around closer than nine

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Speaker 5: thirty Eastern time. That would be about seven or seven

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00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 5: thirty your time there in fact, we had a video

1127
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 5: up earlier, and guys, if we can put that video

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Speaker 5: back up of the podium that was set up as

1129
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 5: reporters are now waiting to get more information. All of

1130
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Speaker 5: this coming after President Trump earlier this morning announced that

1131
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 5: a suspect was in custody. He was somewhat hedging, but

1132
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 5: let's hear from the president himself and then we'll talk

1133
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 5: on the other side of this. This is what the

1134
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 5: President had to say on Fox and Friends about thirty

1135
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 5: forty five minutes ago.

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Speaker 15: Any updates on the suspect.

1137
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 14: Yeah, can I always say, I think just to protect

1138
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 14: us all and so Fox doesn't get sued and we

1139
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 14: all don't get sued and everything else, but I think

1140
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Speaker 14: with a high degree of certainty we have him. Were

1141
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 14: in custody, in custody. Everyone did a great job. We

1142
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 14: worked with the local police, the governor, everybody did a

1143
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 14: great job. You know, getting somebody that you start off

1144
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 14: with absolutely nothing, and we started off with a clip

1145
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 14: that made him look like an ant, that was almost useless.

1146
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 14: We just saw it was somebody up there. And so

1147
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 14: much work has been done over the list two and

1148
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Speaker 14: a half days. You know, it's amazing. Actually when you

1149
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 14: start off with that and then all of a sudden

1150
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 14: you get lucky or talent or whatever it is. But yeah,

1151
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 14: we're I think we're in great shape. Father went to

1152
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 14: a US marshal who was fantastic, by the way, and

1153
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 14: the person was involved with law enforcement, but was a

1154
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Speaker 14: person of faith, a minister, and I brought him to

1155
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 14: a US marshal who was fantastic, and the father convinced

1156
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 14: the son and this is it. And again I'm always

1157
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 14: subject to be corrected, but you know, I'm just giving

1158
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 14: you based on what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 1: They'll give you a much more.

1160
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Speaker 14: Active I just heard about it five minutes before I

1161
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 14: walked in. As I'm walking in, they said, looking real good.

1162
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Speaker 14: They have the person that they wanted.

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Speaker 5: So again, folks, we want to welcome you back to

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Speaker 5: American Sunrise. Terrance Bates along with David Brodie, doctor Gina,

1165
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Speaker 5: Congressman Burgess Owens joining us again for the.

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Speaker 3: Show as well. A Congressman.

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Speaker 5: You just heard the president's statement there a little while ago. Again,

1168
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Speaker 5: a news conference expected to happen there in your state

1169
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 5: of Utah at any moment now will take.

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Speaker 3: You their live once that happens.

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00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 5: Talk about the reaction in your community, because this has

1172
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Speaker 5: got to be a stay and it's got to be.

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Speaker 3: Hurtful in your community.

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Speaker 5: And unfortunately, people are now going to know your community

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00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 5: there for this, not for the other great things that

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Speaker 5: are likely happening.

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Speaker 21: No, you're you're correct, and it's it's it's really as

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Speaker 21: unfortunate with that right regard. But I just I guess

1179
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 21: and in a sense say, this hate evil is everywhere.

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Speaker 22: Uh.

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Speaker 21: And we have a community here that we've always considered

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Speaker 21: ourselves very safe. And some people come here, they enjoy it,

1183
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 21: they want to come back because they feel that way.

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Speaker 22: But this is something that we have to recognize.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 21: We are, we are being an unattacked We have been

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Speaker 21: for quite a while for those who hate our society,

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00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 21: hate our culture, and and Charlie stood for what the

1189
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 21: right way to go about changing minds, patience, temperance, love, confidence, intelligence,

1190
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Speaker 21: all the things that's really made our country to remarkable country.

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Speaker 21: It is, it is, it is, it's kind of it's amazing.

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Speaker 21: It's on the setting of a college campus. That's what

1193
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 21: they're trying their teaching there. They're teaching people how to

1194
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 21: have these compass They want people to have different thoughts,

1195
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 21: but you come in with a respectful way talk about things.

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Speaker 21: So we're going to get this back because this is

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Speaker 21: a I think a spotlight of the way our country

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Speaker 21: can go, which is go back to basics, go back

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Speaker 21: to what's made our country the country is is have

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Speaker 21: these conversations and also understanding that we are truly in

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Speaker 21: an era in which evil is after us. And you

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Speaker 21: take someone like Charlie who who he doesn't have anything.

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Speaker 21: Anybody knows him. He doesn't have enemies, He didn't have

1204
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 21: enemies because he's that kind of person that is confident

1205
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 21: enough about himself he can listen and talk to anyone

1206
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Speaker 21: and still walk away and say, you know, well, let's

1207
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Speaker 21: disrespectfully agree to disagree.

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Speaker 22: That is the way America works.

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Speaker 21: And that's what's happening that that we should be on

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Speaker 21: our college campuses. You'll be used one of those campuses

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Speaker 21: that this teaches that and and helps young people to

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Speaker 21: understand that. So we're going to get back to that.

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Speaker 21: And I think this is again a flashpoint to understand

1214
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 21: we have to dig in, guys. Education, we have to

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Speaker 21: focus on and get it done right because we've been

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00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 21: on the wrong side of this, uh for we're way

1217
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 21: too long and the result of that, that is the

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Speaker 21: kind of evil we just saw a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 21: when it's very a.

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Speaker 22: Very vulnerable, very open, very.

1221
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 21: Just a person just talking, just talking is murdered in

1222
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Speaker 21: front of thousands of people. This is not the way

1223
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Speaker 21: America should be, and we will understand that. We're going

1224
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Speaker 21: to go to a different direction, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the spiritual aspect of this

1226
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Speaker 2: for a moment, because you talked about evil, and of

1227
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Speaker 2: course we know there's a spiritual warfare going on, but

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Speaker 2: we always say spiritual warfare, and we don't really maybe

1229
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: explain as well as we should. And for those that

1230
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Speaker 2: are not believers, they don't understand that realm.

1231
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Speaker 1: But there is a spiritual realm.

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Speaker 2: And I'm getting to my question, which is simply this.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious about where you think this emotion comes from

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01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: what we've seen with tens of millions of Americans this week.

1235
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Speaker 2: Why is this hit a nerve? And yes, for us

1236
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 2: here at Rav, we knew him. That's a nerve, right

1237
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: was thirty one? That's a nerve.

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Speaker 1: He was being a voice for so many tens of

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Speaker 1: millions of people. That's a nerve.

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Speaker 2: But spiritually this feels to me, congressmen different. In other words,

1241
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: there's something you can't quite place your finger on. And

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Speaker 2: I wonder if it has to do with this realm

1243
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: of evil verse good and when evil won for that

1244
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: split second, by the way, evil did not win, but

1245
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: for that split second this week, it brought people into

1246
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: something they couldn't verbalize, but they were feeling and it

1247
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: goes raw and it was emotional, and I'm curious to

1248
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Speaker 2: get your take on that.

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Speaker 21: Well, what we're realizing, and this has been a conversation

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01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 21: since President Trump came in and we begin to see

1251
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 21: changes across the country. But we've been in a spiritual

1252
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 21: warfare for quite a while. It's called Marxism. It's an

1253
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 21: ideology that hates everything to stand for. It hates God,

1254
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 21: it hates family, it hates business ownership, it hates property,

1255
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 21: all those things that's made out country to remarkable country is.

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Speaker 21: And what Charl's able to do was to articulate in

1257
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 21: a very calm and intelligent way and just to being engaged,

1258
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 21: and all these young people never heard these truths before,

1259
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 21: begin to begin to resonate, they begin to be drawn

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Speaker 21: to it.

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Speaker 22: That is the greatest threat to evil.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 21: This country's been based on this concept of God, of

1264
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 21: becoming a more perfect union, of looking at each.

1265
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Speaker 22: Other inside out and not outside in. That is who

1266
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:22,439
Speaker 22: we are.

1267
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 21: And we always drift in that direction, and we lost

1268
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 21: our pathway not understanding that we are again. We are

1269
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 21: under attack with these Marxists has been at us for

1270
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Speaker 21: a long time. They go to our most vulnerable in

1271
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Speaker 21: these universities where we don't have protection. We have professors

1272
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 21: that come through and push these people out hating our nation.

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01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 21: Well back now and President Trump was was really the

1274
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 21: lynch print in terms of our country saying Okay, enough

1275
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 21: of this.

1276
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 22: We the people now want order. We want we want

1277
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 22: to have our faith. We want to have whatever that

1278
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 22: faith might be.

1279
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 21: We want to be in a position to dream and

1280
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 21: grow and have a legacy of our kids. That is

1281
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Speaker 21: what happened in November. Charlie happened to be one of

1282
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 21: those factors that really made it happen by getting young

1283
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 21: people engaged, people that in the past have been told

1284
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 21: they don't need to be involved with politics, just go

1285
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 21: out there and have fun and do whatever you want

1286
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 21: to do, and and don't think there's a God.

1287
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 22: Well, Charlie's message was quite different.

1288
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 21: And now we have young people that are patriot, patriotic,

1289
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 21: They're they're loving our country, young men that understand what

1290
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 21: is to respect others, to respect women, to respect authority,

1291
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 21: all those things that make our country what it is.

1292
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 21: We're finally coming back and we're going to look back

1293
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 21: and realize that he was again, uh, the major impactor

1294
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 21: in terms of this process, and his life is going

1295
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 21: to be again something that we will be talking about

1296
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Speaker 21: for for a long long time.

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Speaker 22: But I'm just say this one thing.

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Speaker 21: I grew up in the time of Russian invall when

1299
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 21: I made my transition to become a Republicans, because I

1300
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 21: listened to Russian Lamar every single day and and I

1301
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 21: would set my schedule up so I can hear him.

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01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 21: That has now turned into me being a solid conservative,

1303
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 21: where my family being that kind of conservative conservative family

1304
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 21: and me representing a very conservative state. Well, that's that's

1305
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 21: what Charlie's impact is going to be multiple multiple because

1306
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 21: he spent so much time with so many thousands of

1307
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 21: young people that listen and had engagement with him, And

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01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 21: just imagine as they grew up. Now they go out

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Speaker 21: and get married like he asked him to to go

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Speaker 21: out and have a family, grow the businesses, get into

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Speaker 21: the middle class, and more importantly, have the faith, have

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Speaker 21: the spiritual connection to want to give back, make that

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Speaker 21: part of your life.

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Speaker 22: That's who Charlie was. And he didn't do it just

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Speaker 22: for individuals.

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Speaker 21: He did it in person with kids across this country

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Speaker 21: and those kids that are grow up and understand what

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Speaker 21: he stood for and want to emulate that. And that's

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Speaker 21: what's going to turn our country in a way that

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Speaker 21: that we're gonna be very proud as as we as

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Speaker 21: these as these the next generation is going to come

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Speaker 21: through and see the impact he's that he's that he's

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Speaker 21: had because.

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Speaker 7: Of his life.

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Speaker 4: I think you're right, Think you're right, Congressman. We've talked

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Speaker 4: about the spiritual impact of Charlie Kirk's life. We've talked

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Speaker 4: about uh, the media impact that this assassination will have.

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Speaker 4: We've talked about the political. I want to ask you

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Speaker 4: about the practical because at some point we're going to

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Speaker 4: have to talk about this. I know, as somebody that

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Speaker 4: goes and does speeches for you know, Christian women's organizations,

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Speaker 4: you know, my books, whatever, it is like all of

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Speaker 4: us sitting here do congressmen, you're no stranger to going

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Speaker 4: and addressing crowds. I know people are canceling a lot

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Speaker 4: of events right now, which is exactly what you don't want,

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Speaker 4: because this is terrorism, right, This is exactly what the

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Speaker 4: left wants. But I do know that there are some

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Speaker 4: friends of mine who have canceled their book tours right now.

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Speaker 4: For example, what are you going to do? What is

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Speaker 4: the word among other congress people? How are we going

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Speaker 4: to handle this going forward? Because we can't all afford

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Speaker 4: to have glass boxes around us and counter shooters right,

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Speaker 4: counter sharpshooters up on roofs. What does this mean for rallies,

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Speaker 4: for just congress people to go speak to their districts.

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Speaker 21: Well, those who have that faith, who have understanding while

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Speaker 21: we're here.

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Speaker 22: It's not an accident.

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Speaker 21: We're all here, guys together at this particular time is

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Speaker 21: for a purpose. I was all right, and I think

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Speaker 21: now is our time to lean in. This is the

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Speaker 21: time that we're here for a purpose. It's not an accidents. Again,

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Speaker 21: as I mentioned before, that heaven Fathers put us here

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Speaker 21: at this time.

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Speaker 22: And these are things we have to go through.

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Speaker 21: What it comes down to do we have courage you

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Speaker 21: do have fear if you have the faith that this

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Speaker 21: is the country that's built on principles, is a God

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Speaker 21: that loves us, It takes care of us, and guys

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Speaker 21: are the direction and makes it.

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Speaker 22: It's a perfect it's a perfect plan for all of us.

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Speaker 21: So the question is do we have that faith like

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Speaker 21: Charlie And now, of course understand that his faith led

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Speaker 21: him to that particular point of courage, and he's paid

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Speaker 21: the price for it, but there's also been an example

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Speaker 21: for many of us that price is worth it if

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Speaker 21: you're making the difference in our country. We're fighting for

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Speaker 21: hard and soul of our nation right now. This is

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Speaker 21: these are very very special times. We've seen a president

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Speaker 21: who stood up and and and after being attacked said fight, fight, fight. Well,

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Speaker 21: that's what Americans do. Is within our DNA, we are

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Speaker 21: not those who cower. We're the ones that that see that. Now,

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Speaker 21: first of all, we dream big and then we kind

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Speaker 21: of get into the freedom bubble. Sometimes we don't realize

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Speaker 21: we're under attacked. But once we do, we don't cower.

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Speaker 21: We fight. We run toward the issues that we need to.

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Speaker 21: So I think we're gonna find even a stronger a

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Speaker 21: will within Congress, you're gonna start seeing things that now

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Speaker 21: that we're coming together and realize that this is important.

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Speaker 21: Charlie's kind of been a lynch pin and in many

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Speaker 21: many different ways for many of us. So I feel

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Speaker 21: more hopeful that we're all going to get things done

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Speaker 21: quicker now because American people realize them by the way

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Speaker 21: they just say this. There's always gonna be a fringe.

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Speaker 21: There's always gonna be a hateful group of godless people

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Speaker 21: that want to destroy everything, But most of America's are

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Speaker 21: not that way. We are very good, good people on

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Speaker 21: both sides. And when I say both Democratic people are

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Speaker 21: really good folks.

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Speaker 22: They just have been listening to the hard left and

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Speaker 22: believing them.

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Speaker 21: This is a point in which they realize, we're gonna

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Speaker 21: sit back to wait a minute, how can this happen?

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Speaker 21: I don't agree with Charlie, but how can a man

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Speaker 21: thirty one years old sitting talk with kids, how can

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Speaker 21: this happen? And they're going to ask those same questions

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01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 21: that we are saying with this has gone too far?

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Speaker 21: Enough is enough? We need to stop this. And this

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Speaker 21: is one of those moments that I think we begin

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Speaker 21: to have these conversations as a people that we needed

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Speaker 21: to have for so long.

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Speaker 22: So just no moving forward.

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Speaker 21: I feel more hope for for our nation, more excited

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Speaker 21: about the conversation we're going to have, the more education

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Speaker 21: we're going to start having our college campuses now, because

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Speaker 21: we're done. We're done with cancelation, we're done with intimidation,

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01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 21: we're done with all that stuff that the hard left

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Speaker 21: has been putting on us for so many for decades.

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Speaker 21: So this is a point in which we're going to

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Speaker 21: look back and realize because of Charlie's life, because of

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Speaker 21: his message is way, we're going to go in a

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Speaker 21: different direction and it's going to change our country for

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Speaker 21: the good.

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Speaker 2: Congressman, and we were miss if we didn't ask you

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Speaker 2: real quick, you were emotional there in your answer at

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Speaker 2: the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Where did that emotion come from? What's going on else?

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Speaker 21: I think a lot of it is, first of all,

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Speaker 21: the moment we have now and say, such a good

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Speaker 21: person something like this happening, but also recognize that the

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Speaker 21: blessing that we have to be part of this solution

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01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 21: at this time. I think Americans, anybody's watching this, just

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Speaker 21: know it's not an accident. You're sitting here there hearing

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Speaker 21: these conversations that we have these emotions that we're feeling

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Speaker 21: now because we're going to bring our country back. So

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01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 21: know that this is a special window. And it began

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Speaker 21: we brought President Trump in and he put his team

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Speaker 21: around him, and all of us now who's been prepared

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Speaker 21: through all these years to do what we're doing right now.

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Speaker 21: Is not an accident. We're here to save our nation.

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Speaker 21: So just just lean into that, know that, and then

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Speaker 21: do your very best to bring your talents out. Don't

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Speaker 21: don't don't let fear drive us. Don't let that's what

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Speaker 21: the left wants, that's what the heart left wants.

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Speaker 22: Godless.

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Speaker 21: Let's take out our faith and leaning hard and realize

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Speaker 21: Helen Father is going to be there with us and

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Speaker 21: give us, help us, allow us to take our talents

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Speaker 21: to make sure those who come behind us dream bigger

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Speaker 21: than we've ever thought can happen, and our country comes

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Speaker 21: back to way it should be.

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Speaker 5: Congressman, if I can just very quickly, David, if you

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Speaker 5: don't mind, because I think it's important to bring up

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Speaker 5: as well. After Charlie shooting the other day, there was

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Speaker 5: a moment of silence. Speaker Johnson tried to have a

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Speaker 5: moment of silence there in the House chamber, some of

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Speaker 5: your Democrat colleagues booed and yelled and shored in. I

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Speaker 5: think most reasonable people's minds a lack of decorum speak

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Speaker 5: to that. Can you speak to the climate in this

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Speaker 5: country that's being perpetuated, even on the left, this climate

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Speaker 5: of division, this climate that seems to lack compassion even

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Speaker 5: for something basic as the murder of a man.

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Speaker 21: You just use the right word compassion. I say empathy.

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Speaker 21: Let me tell you about our country. I believe so strongly,

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01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 21: and it doesn't matter what side that our we're sitting on.

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Speaker 21: We have a country that believes in empathy. We have

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Speaker 21: that heart. That's why we serve the way we do.

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Speaker 21: That's why we have charities that we lean in on.

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Speaker 21: But at the same time, you're also seeing the heartlessness

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Speaker 21: of an ideology that does not believe in a god,

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01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 21: that that hates, that celebrates death, and celebrates hopelessness. I mean, understand,

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01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 21: we've seen this for a long long time. Go to

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Speaker 21: any city where people are hopeless, that are ignorant and

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01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 21: can't read and write, can't get a job, and you

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Speaker 21: have people celebrating that.

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Speaker 22: But I continue to continue to push that on.

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Speaker 21: We're at a point now where where good people are

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Speaker 21: seeing this and realize it's something wrong when that kind

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Speaker 21: of stuff can happen in Congress, something wrong with people

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01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 21: go online and celebrate a young man thirty one years

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Speaker 21: old leaving two kids behind the wife. That's not who

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Speaker 21: we are. So the empathy of our nation is what's

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Speaker 21: going to kind of shine at this point. We're going

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Speaker 21: to start having conversations now that we have not in

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Speaker 21: the past, because it's gonna be a.

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Speaker 22: Softening, a softening of of for.

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Speaker 21: Those of who are in the past who kind of

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Speaker 21: lean in that direction, realize them that's not who we

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01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 21: are and that's not who I am. And I'll say

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 21: this too, even on the right, we're angry, we're upset,

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01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 21: we're tired of seeing this type of anger and hatred.

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01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 21: But at the same time, we do still have the

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Speaker 21: ability to reach out and have these conversations. We're going

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01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 21: to get to the point again where we're talking more

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Speaker 21: than ever before. And the way we have to make

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01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 21: changes on these college campuses. The left understood decades ago

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01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 21: if you want to change the culture, go after the

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Speaker 21: most vulnerable, Go out your k through twelve college, and

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Speaker 21: we're going to change that. We're going to give our

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Speaker 21: kids more hope, more educational of our history and who

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01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 21: we are. Our Christian foundation allows us to have the

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Speaker 21: freedoms we have for all religions. This is where we're

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01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 21: going to go now, and we're going to it's gonna

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Speaker 21: be a demand for it because of what's happened to

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Speaker 21: Charlie and people realizing what a good man he was.

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Speaker 21: He didn't deserve this, This is not in who our

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Speaker 21: country is. Because of that, he's gonna be an nderstand

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Speaker 21: for us, for.

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Speaker 1: Sure, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: Congressman Owks, thanks for spending the extended time with us

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Speaker 2: this morning.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you so much and everything you've said.

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Speaker 22: Thank you, guys, appreciate it us.

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Speaker 4: God bless you.

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Speaker 7: You bet.

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Speaker 2: We're standing by for a press conference, the FBI press

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Speaker 2: conference detailing that a suspect has been caught in the

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk assassination.

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Speaker 1: More coverage, Breaking news coverage after the.

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Speaker 13: Break, Breaking news from Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to American Sunrise.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate you being here with us on this busy

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Speaker 5: Friday morning. We want to recap some breaking news. President

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Speaker 5: Trump says he believes the suspect behind the Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 5: assassination is in custody. Here is the announcement he made

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Speaker 5: about an hour ago.

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Speaker 15: Any updates on the suspect.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, can I always say, I think just to protect

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Speaker 14: us all and so Fox doesn't get sued and we

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Speaker 14: all don't get sued and everything else, but I think

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Speaker 14: with a high degree of certainty, we have him in custody,

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Speaker 14: in custody.

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Speaker 3: Everyone did a great job.

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Speaker 14: We worked with the local police, the governor, everybody did

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Speaker 14: a great job. You know, getting somebody that you start

1525
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 14: off with absolutely nothing, and we started off with a

1526
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 14: clip that made it look like an ant that was

1527
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 14: almost useless. We just saw it was somebody up there.

1528
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 14: And so much work has been done over the last

1529
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 14: two and a half days. You know, it's amazing actually

1530
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 14: when you start off with that and then all of

1531
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 14: a sudden you get lucky or talent or whatever it is.

1532
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 14: But yeah, we're I think we're in great shape. Father

1533
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 14: went to a US marshall who was fantastic, by the way,

1534
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 14: and the person was involved with enforcement, but was a

1535
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 14: person of faith, a minister, and I brought him to

1536
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 14: a US marshal who was fantastic, and the father convinced

1537
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 14: the son and this is it. And again I'm always

1538
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 14: subject to me corrected. But you know, I'm just giving

1539
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 14: you based on what I'm hearing. They'll give you a

1540
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 14: much more active I just heard about it five minutes

1541
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 14: before I walked in. As I'm walking in, they said,

1542
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 14: looking real good. They have the person that they wanted.

1543
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 5: So and the additional information President Trump was talking about

1544
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 5: there is expected to come out at any moment.

1545
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 3: Now they're at the bottom of your screen.

1546
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 5: You see a video which is of a FBI news

1547
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 5: conference that set to get under way here at any moment,

1548
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 5: will take you there live. In the meantime, we want

1549
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 5: to bring in former Illinois Governor Rob Blagoyevitch. Governor Blagoyevitch

1550
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 5: always good to see you, sir. As you take in

1551
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 5: all of this, the fact that we're hearing that there

1552
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 5: is a suspect now in custody, does that allow you

1553
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 5: to breathe a little easier or do you still have

1554
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 5: more questions that have that are raising concerns if.

1555
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 16: You will, well, no, there's a lot of questions about

1556
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 16: all of it and how it happened, and I think

1557
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 16: we can learn a lot from this, of course, but

1558
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 16: it's good to hear that it looks like they have

1559
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 16: the suspect and custody. Let me just say again, as

1560
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 16: everybody has said, anybody who's a fair minded person, who

1561
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 16: has the fundamental decency of a human being, how terrible

1562
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 16: I feel for what happened to Charlie Kirk. I had

1563
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 16: the opportunity to be on his podcast a couple of times.

1564
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 16: I met his mother and father.

1565
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 22: At mar A Lago.

1566
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 16: They came from Millanois. Charlie went to Wheeling High School.

1567
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 16: I'm familiar with that. I was a governor of the state.

1568
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 16: When I met his mom and dad, it was clear

1569
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 16: they were so proud of him and his accomplishments. And

1570
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 16: when I think about my young daughters who are twenty

1571
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 16: nine and twenty two, and Charlie's generation, it's so nice

1572
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 16: to see the great work that Charlie has done. And

1573
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 16: that's his lasting legacy that he brought about in this

1574
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 16: new generation, this young generation that in so many ways

1575
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 16: has been contaminated by the things that are being taught

1576
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 16: to them in the schools, that Charlie can mobilize like

1577
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 16: he did through the colleges and the high schools to

1578
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 16: essentially counteract those academics and provide a place for young

1579
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 16: people to actually embrace the fundamental ideals that make America great.

1580
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 16: And they are rooted in the Judeo Christian tradition and

1581
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 16: in our faith in God.

1582
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 3: And so look, it was.

1583
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 16: Time for our father to call him home. God has

1584
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 16: his purposes and his plans, and Charlie was certainly part

1585
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 16: of his plans here, and I believe He's got a

1586
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 16: plan for him in that better world where I know

1587
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 16: Charlie is.

1588
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 5: You know, people of faith will also often say it's

1589
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 5: not about when you were born or when you died,

1590
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,440
Speaker 5: but it's about what you do in that dash in between.

1591
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 5: What is Charlie Kirk's legacy in your mind? What does

1592
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 5: that dash represent for the world.

1593
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 16: No, I think Charlie is a Charlie's legacy is a

1594
01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 16: substantial one, essentially being the leading advocate for Middle American ideals,

1595
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 16: you know, love of country, faith, family, opportunity, which is

1596
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 16: the American dream that's been so much a part of

1597
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 16: our history. Hard work of having a dream and pursuing

1598
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 16: that dream, starting something from nothing and making it something big,

1599
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 16: all of these things are the things that he did

1600
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 16: in his short young life, which are really remarkable. And

1601
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 16: so his legacy is to his generation, in large part,

1602
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 16: an example of not just someone who can turn something

1603
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 16: from starting with nothing to make it a big.

1604
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 22: Big success.

1605
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:41,520
Speaker 16: But his legacy is, i think again, the bringing mobilizing

1606
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 16: of the young generation behind the fundamental ideals and values

1607
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 16: of America. And that's very important in times like these,

1608
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 16: because those very values have been undermined by the political

1609
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 16: left in America, and it's among the reasons why Democrats

1610
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 16: like me are disenchanted with the Democratic Party. It's a

1611
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 16: party that we no longer recognize.

1612
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 5: Governor Blagoyevitch, we appreciate your time. Thanks so much for

1613
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 5: joining us and sharing some of your thoughts with.

1614
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 3: Us this morning.

1615
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 22: Thank you.

1616
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 16: It's nice to meet to Charnce.

1617
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1618
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 5: Likewise likewise, it's a pleasure. All right, Let's get you

1619
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 5: over to David Brody. Now, David, good morning.

1620
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 2: Good morning, Terrence. We have some breaking news. It's been

1621
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 2: a break news, a morning of breaking news. The Associated

1622
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: Press reporting the identity now of who this suspect is.

1623
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 2: I'm reading from the Associated Press. The New York Posts

1624
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 2: also reporting this, but this is the Associated Press say

1625
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 2: the suspect and custody in connection with the assassination of

1626
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk is a twenty two year old from Utah.

1627
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 2: That's according to a law enforcement official who told the Associated.

1628
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: Press here comes the official say.

1629
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: Authorities have identified the suspect as Tyler Robinson. The official

1630
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 2: was not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation and spoke

1631
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 2: Friday on the condition of anonymity. That's what we have

1632
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 2: and that coming in literally within the last sixty two

1633
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty seconds. Now we start researching and

1634
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 2: we'll get more informations here at this press conference debates.

1635
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, and as you see there at the bottom of

1636
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 5: your screen, right under right across David's chest there, that

1637
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 5: news conference is expected to get underway here in short order.

1638
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 5: We're just waiting for FBI officials, state officials there in Utah,

1639
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 5: as well as local officials to take the podium and

1640
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 5: confirm some of what we already are hearing, both from

1641
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 5: President Trump as well as other sources. We do expect

1642
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 5: in David the moment they take the podium, they will

1643
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 5: once again reiterate that name and hopefully give us some

1644
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 5: more information about Tyler.

1645
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 3: I think you said his first name? Is that correct?

1646
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:43,839
Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson, an nbcler Robinson. Everybody across the conservative liberal

1647
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 2: legacy media, everybody now reporting the name Tyler Robinson is

1648
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: the alleged suspect's name. Doing deep dives now, checking my

1649
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 2: sources for more on that.

1650
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 5: Sure, and we're expecting to get again, We're expecting to

1651
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 5: get more information on all of that here in short order.

1652
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 5: Jake Novak is also going to join us here in

1653
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 5: short order with a little bit more. In fact, do

1654
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 5: we have Jake guys, Okay, we do have Jake right now. Jake,

1655
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 5: apologies to you, but as you know, it's breaking news

1656
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 5: and there's a lot changing.

1657
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 3: What more can you add to all of this?

1658
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 23: Well, you know, I think it's really telling that this

1659
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 23: is a twenty two year old suspect. I mean, obviously

1660
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 23: this is reporting from other sources, but so I'm not

1661
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 23: going to really go on so much on the name.

1662
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 23: I'm not going to be looking up social media accounts

1663
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 23: with that person's name. But what we saw from the

1664
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 23: surveillance pictures and from the video is that I'm not

1665
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 23: surprised to see that it's a younger person, but I

1666
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 23: would just say, also, look, I have a twenty two

1667
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 23: year old child. You know, Gina has children in that

1668
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 23: age gra range as well, folks we have you know,

1669
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 23: this is what Charlie Kirk's mission was. To use the

1670
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 23: term mission, and I use that word advisedly to knowing

1671
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 23: that these young people in America have been turned against

1672
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 23: decency in so many ways. Again, I'm not this person

1673
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 23: could have a totally different story, but the fact that

1674
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 23: it's a young suspect, I think is our headline. We

1675
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 23: should really be considering that the person who shot President

1676
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 23: Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania also a young shooter. This is

1677
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 23: our crisis in America and Charlotte Kirk was trying to

1678
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 23: help fix that. So of course it's very sad in

1679
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,879
Speaker 23: that way in addition to the devastation and the atrocity

1680
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 23: of his murder. But that youth, that age is really

1681
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,799
Speaker 23: sticking out to me. I'm sure it is to you guys.

1682
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: Too, and it plays right into everything we've been talking

1683
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: about from some of the storylines that have come out

1684
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: of this, which is that Charlie Kirk, we know, obviously

1685
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 2: made so many impressions and it's such a difference on

1686
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: the college campuses across this country. And we also have

1687
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 2: talked about the spiritual aspect of this the revival generation.

1688
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 2: Many are calling gen Z the revival generation. And then

1689
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 2: we talk about evil good versus evil. I mean, it

1690
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 2: just feels like it's a confluence, like it's all like

1691
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,719
Speaker 2: there's a battle for the soul of this nation right now.

1692
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 2: And this just to your point, with the age of

1693
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: this person, it just makes you think that this is

1694
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: right in the thick of it all.

1695
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 8: Jay, Yeah, you know, you know, you're right.

1696
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 23: I do hope that gen Z becomes the revival, the

1697
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 23: resurrection of this country's spirit. But it's not going to

1698
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 23: come without casualties. There's going to be some difficult people.

1699
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 5: In the road.

1700
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 19: You know.

1701
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 23: We learned this also from some of the people who

1702
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 23: came back from the Iraq War who had so many

1703
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 23: wounds from it.

1704
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:33,799
Speaker 8: They were about that age when.

1705
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 23: That war was going on, and we know that so

1706
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 23: many of them became great patriots in addition to even

1707
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 23: though they were already soldiers, but became great patriots on

1708
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 23: a political level, in addition to doing their service. But

1709
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 23: it didn't come without high high price. It sometimes, and

1710
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 23: what Charlie was trying to do and will continue and

1711
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 23: people will continue to do in his memory. Is not

1712
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,799
Speaker 23: going to be easy, folks. It's going to be very uplifting.

1713
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 23: It's going to be that one of the highest callings

1714
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,719
Speaker 23: you could ever have. But you're going to have people

1715
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 23: like this potentially again this is all true that are

1716
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 23: not going to go along, and that's the.

1717
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 8: Risk we take.

1718
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 23: But that's why we call it work, you know, doing

1719
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 23: the work for God and doing the work for morality.

1720
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 23: It's not like if it were just a snap of fingers,

1721
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:13,839
Speaker 23: then it would not be virtue.

1722
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 3: Jake.

1723
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 5: While I agree with you that the age of the

1724
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 5: alleged and I think it's important that we say the

1725
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 5: alleged shooter here is of concern, the other thing that's

1726
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 5: of concerned in me is this environment that we're in,

1727
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 5: this caustic environment. And again, at this point, investigators havn't

1728
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 5: confirmed the motive in this, but I think many people

1729
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 5: believe that what probably motivated this particular attack is Charlie's

1730
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 5: views and the fact that he was so upfront about it.

1731
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 5: And I think we all can also agree, Jake, that

1732
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 5: we're in this environment where if I disagree with you,

1733
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,839
Speaker 5: it's not just an agreement to disagree, it becomes personal,

1734
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 5: and sometimes the personal we've seen this even with President Trump,

1735
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 5: leads to deadly attacks or at least aggressive in dangerous attacks.

1736
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 5: And that's what's frightening to me is that we're in

1737
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 5: this environment.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and young people are much more impressionable.

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Speaker 23: I mean, we see this also, not even with just

1740
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 23: demonizing particular political parties or people like Charlie Kirk or

1741
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 23: President Trump, but just like the environment, you know, we

1742
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 23: have an entire generation of young people who went to

1743
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 23: school every day being told that the world was going

1744
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 23: to end tomorrow because of the environment, because your mommy

1745
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 23: and daddy were driving in an suv.

1746
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 8: What did you think that was going to produce.

1747
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 23: Did you think that was going to produce a bunch

1748
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 23: of peaceful, well justed children.

1749
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 8: It didn't.

1750
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 23: Greta Thunberg is just one of many people like that

1751
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 23: who have been radicalized by fear mongering by people who

1752
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 23: had their own personal gains involved in I think that

1753
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 23: ninety percent of the politicians and leaders who say horrible

1754
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 23: things about Donald Trump don't believe a word of it,

1755
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 23: but they believe that they can get somewhere on it. Well,

1756
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 23: this is the casualty young people like this again, and

1757
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 23: as you're right alleged, we'll have to see if this

1758
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 23: is true. Young people like this though, who are your

1759
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 23: sacrificial lamb? You know, people think that child sacrifice went

1760
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,759
Speaker 23: out five thousand years ago or so with the Pagans.

1761
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 8: It didn't.

1762
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 23: It's all the rage again, whether it's transgendering them, whether

1763
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 23: it's using them as fodder, as cannon fodder in places

1764
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 23: like Gaza or something like this, where we indoctrinate our

1765
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 23: children for our own political gain. There's real sacrifice involved, hearian.

1766
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Speaker 23: I don't want to see it continue.

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Speaker 2: Can I just do a quick social media public service

1768
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 2: announcement if you will, And maybe you guys will back

1769
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 2: me on this or maybe not, but I think you will.

1770
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 2: Excuse me, I'm fighting a little cold here. Look, can

1771
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 2: we be careful about what is on social media? I mean,

1772
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 2: that's obvious, we know that for a while. But for example,

1773
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 2: in this case, there were three different names given.

1774
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Speaker 1: About who the suspect was.

1775
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 2: If you go on social media in the last twenty

1776
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: four to forty eight hours, they were all wrong.

1777
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't any of those names.

1778
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: And so as we start to now Google or go

1779
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 2: on to you know x and other places, type in

1780
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson and everything. There's gonna be a lot of

1781
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 2: stuff that comes up. Some of it may be true,

1782
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: some of it may not. Can we just as my

1783
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 2: dad like to say, hold our horses here and just

1784
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: chill out on social media.

1785
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying wait for the authorities to tell

1786
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 1: us what to do. That's not what I'm saying.

1787
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 2: Trust me, I don't trust them as much that I

1788
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 2: used to, for sure, But I'm just saying on the social.

1789
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Media front, we have to be careful, guys.

1790
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 3: We have to be careful. Agreed, David and Jake.

1791
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 5: I'd like to pose both of you a question because

1792
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 5: they're at the bottom of your screen. You're seeing that

1793
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 5: we're waiting for this news conference to get under way.

1794
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,799
Speaker 3: We're expecting it to happen at any moment.

1795
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 5: Again, we'll take you there live when it happens, we'll

1796
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 5: all listen to it together. But there's been conversation this morning,

1797
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 5: David and Jake about what we expect to hear and

1798
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:54,600
Speaker 5: the way the FBI has publicly handled this investigation in

1799
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 5: the information coming out. So David, I'll begin with you,

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Speaker 5: and then Jake I'd like you to answer the question

1801
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 5: as well, what you want to hear? What do you

1802
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 5: expect to hear from the investigators this morning?

1803
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think we're going to probably hear too

1804
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 2: much right now, especially at this juncture. I mean, they're

1805
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 2: gonna put I mean, after last night's ten PM press

1806
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 2: conference that I was pretty livid about at the top,

1807
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 2: I think they're going to hold it close to the vest.

1808
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 2: And there's a degree of reason behind that, for sure,

1809
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,600
Speaker 2: a hundred percent. You don't want to get ahead of

1810
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 2: your skis on stuff. But going forward, what do I

1811
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 2: want to hear?

1812
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 21: What?

1813
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of questions that I want to know.

1814
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: I'd love to know how he got on.

1815
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 2: The roof and what in the world was going on

1816
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 2: from a security standpoint. Well, I'll just I've got a

1817
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: lot of other questions, but I'll just leave it at that,

1818
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 2: just to say that I don't think we're going to

1819
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: get those type of kind of not soul searching, but

1820
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: investigative questions about the FBI. That's not the story today,

1821
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 2: for sure. The story today is more about Tyler Robinson, Jake.

1822
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 23: Jake, Terrence and Terrence and David. I can't guess what

1823
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 23: they're going to say, but I will answer your question

1824
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 23: about what I hope they're going to say. You know,

1825
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 23: if I would like to hear more details about what

1826
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,799
Speaker 23: we're hearing in reports that somebody very close to the shooter,

1827
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 23: a family member, may be a pastor, is the one

1828
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 23: who turned him in and was able to get this

1829
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 23: person apprehended. I want to hear about that because I

1830
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 23: want everyone to remember a name. You've all heard the

1831
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 23: name Ted Kaczinsky, the unibomber. Do you remember the name

1832
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 23: David Kazinsky. That was Ted Kaczinsky's brother, who, after the

1833
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 23: FBI made the difficult decision to publish the Union Bomber's manifesto,

1834
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 23: which was a tough decision to make because it gave

1835
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 23: him publicity. David looked at it and said, that's Ted,

1836
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 23: that's my brother, and that led to his apprehension. And

1837
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 23: David Kazinski is an American hero for having done that,

1838
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 23: and not easy to turn in your own brother. And

1839
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 23: if that was the case in this story as well,

1840
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 23: someone who saw the picture and said this is my

1841
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 23: loved one, or this is someone I know, that person

1842
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 23: should be, you know, I don't know if they want

1843
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 23: to get their name out there.

1844
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 8: I'm not asking that, but I want to know about

1845
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 8: that too.

1846
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1847
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 2: I also want to know about the time, Like real quick,

1848
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:01,560
Speaker 2: can I just say, I want to know about the

1849
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 2: time last he bates in other words, Wednesday at X

1850
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: time in the afternoon when he left the roof and

1851
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 2: he went down with that surveillance video. Where the last

1852
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,520
Speaker 2: time we saw him was at a tree somewhere on campus.

1853
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Where did he go after that? Because if his.

1854
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 2: Father, and this is what President Trump was talking about,

1855
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 2: that the father minister had turn him in, So did

1856
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 2: he just kind of go home? And like, wait a minute,

1857
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,560
Speaker 2: if that's the case, that doesn't sound right that he

1858
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 2: would go home right away after the shooting and then

1859
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 2: or excuse me, the assassination and then what is it now,

1860
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 2: almost forty eight hours later they turn him in, like

1861
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 2: he was there for two days or or where did

1862
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 2: he go exactly between that time and late last night

1863
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 2: when apparently something went down.

1864
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 1: I just want to know more about the timing.

1865
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 3: Well, hopefully we'll get those answers here in short order.

1866
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 3: We're hearing the press.

1867
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 5: Who's going to start here within the next three minutes

1868
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 5: or so, we of course are watching it, and we'll

1869
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,759
Speaker 5: take you there the moment it does happen. Jake, appreciate

1870
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 5: you being here, Appreciate your perspective. Let's now bring in

1871
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 5: doctor Gina and Donna Fadusia from Cowboy Logic. I had

1872
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 5: to join this conversation. David also here, Donna, good morning.

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01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 5: Your thoughts about all that's happened today. Obviously there's a

1874
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 5: lot to take in, so I'm just going to give

1875
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 5: you a blank slate, please begin to paint.

1876
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 24: Well, just a whirlwind of emotions this entire week for

1877
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 24: everybody involved. And I wanted to talk about Our show

1878
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 24: was taped before Charlie's passing, so I want everybody to

1879
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 24: know that. And I'm glad I had this opportunity to

1880
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 24: talk about how I knew Charlie Donn and I met

1881
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 24: him when he was like eighteen or nineteen years old.

1882
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 24: Major General Paul Vallei, who was one of the generals

1883
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 24: who spoke to all. He was one of the Fox

1884
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:50,799
Speaker 24: military analysts that I interviewed many many times. And General

1885
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 24: Valley and I and Don and Charlie were at this

1886
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 24: convention in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, and General Valley said

1887
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 24: you guys to meet this kid. This kid is you know,

1888
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 24: I guess they had contacted each other because of the

1889
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 24: West Point situation.

1890
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 25: We went out, we had lunch the waterfront there.

1891
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 3: It was.

1892
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 5: I want to interrupt you, Okay, I might interrupt you here,

1893
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 5: and I just want to give you a warning because

1894
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 5: people are stepping to the podium there and so if

1895
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 5: I interrupt you, that is why go ahead and finish

1896
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 5: your thought.

1897
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 3: I apologize. I'm just wanting to put that on your radar.

1898
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:25,799
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

1899
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 24: Well, I can see that, and you know the problem

1900
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 24: the thing was even back then, and you know, you

1901
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 24: meet so many people in the course of your life.

1902
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 25: He made an impression.

1903
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 24: This kid was going places and you could see it,

1904
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 24: and it was amazing how many lives he touched. And

1905
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 24: you know what, I think the world did hit a

1906
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 24: turning point, ironically, And you know they say, if you

1907
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 24: wake up the sleeping Giant, you just be careful of

1908
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 24: what happens. You know, I noticed yesterday on social media

1909
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 24: the moment you silence a man with a bullet instead

1910
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 24: out of an argument, you've admitted that your worldview is

1911
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 24: too weak to stand for the truth. I think that

1912
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 24: is so poignant. At this point, Charlie was molding the

1913
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 24: next generation like Rush Limbaugh was molding our generation. We

1914
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 24: were heartbroken over Rush, we're certainly heartbroken over Charlie. And

1915
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 24: the behavior of the left is so reprehensible. I think

1916
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 24: that what's really amazing is how many Democrats are saying

1917
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,759
Speaker 24: they're switching to the Republican Party over this. But Charlie

1918
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 24: was somebody who just built a legacy that I just

1919
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 24: don't think there's too many people out there that are

1920
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 24: going to be able to fill his shoes. But I

1921
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 24: think there's thousands of kids who he have touched, and

1922
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 24: hopefully they will stand in standing the gap.

1923
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 25: Quite honestly, for what Charlie was doing.

1924
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 24: And I even said to Don this week, I think

1925
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 24: we've been deprived of a future president because that's what

1926
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 24: he was destined to be. In my opinion, he had

1927
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,719
Speaker 24: everything to be president of the United States. And certainly

1928
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 24: a lot of people are saying that. Mike Ben's even

1929
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 24: posted that. I totally agree.

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Speaker 4: So, uh, guys, it's interesting, Donna. I'm looking at the

1931
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 4: reported Facebook page of his mother right now, who is

1932
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Speaker 4: actively deleting her posts as I'm talking to you. But

1933
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Speaker 4: from what I can tell of this suspect in this situation,

1934
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 4: his life looked incredibly normal, Like there's literally not a

1935
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 4: single red flag I can find. And this is with

1936
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Speaker 4: way too many years of background in psychology. I don't

1937
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 4: see anything that doesn't look normal. In fact, it looks

1938
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Speaker 4: almost like if you were to create a Facebook page

1939
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 4: of the perfectly normal American family, that's sort of what

1940
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 4: it looks like. It's sort of hard to believe. I mean,

1941
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 4: all of this is so hard to wrap our heads around,

1942
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 4: but it's so hard to believe how someone could be

1943
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 4: so radicalized. And Donna, I just wonder, because you and

1944
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 4: I've had a lot of chances to talk off camera

1945
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 4: about our society and some of the horrible things we've

1946
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,600
Speaker 4: gone through, especially with the Jay Sixers and things that

1947
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 4: you and I are both really passionate about, And I

1948
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 4: just wonder if you think this might be largely a

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01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:10,440
Speaker 4: societal problem.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, and unfortunately it only takes a few bad apples

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Speaker 24: to spoil things for everybody. You got to wonder if

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Speaker 24: he was on medication. We've seen that with so many

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Speaker 24: of the shooters lately. Obviously, what's going on with the

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Speaker 24: whole indoctrination, what really got me, doctor Gina is how

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Speaker 24: many teachers, how many government workers, how many doctors?

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Speaker 25: We're happy about this? And what does that tell you?

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Speaker 24: Do you want to go to a doctor who is

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Speaker 24: supposed to save lives actually happy about an assassination. This

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Speaker 24: has been going on for decades. This didn't just happen overnight.

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Speaker 24: And the fact that this kid allegedly is twenty two

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Speaker 24: years old, to me speaks volumes because that is exactly

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Speaker 24: who Charlie was targeting. And he's touched so much many

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Speaker 24: lives in a positive way. Unfortunately, though, there are so

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Speaker 24: many that you can't stop everyone, unfortunately, and so you

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Speaker 24: have to kind of look back. And I think this

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Speaker 24: is a very revealing moment for our country, and quite honestly,

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Speaker 24: it is a turning point.

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Speaker 2: It is, Dona. Thanks for sharing all your thoughts. We're

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Speaker 2: waiting for the press. I appreciate your being here.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we're waiting for the press conference as to

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Speaker 1: start any moment.

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Speaker 21: Now.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, let's bringing Andy no, the author of

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Speaker 2: Unmasked Inside Antifa's Radical Plan of destroy Democracy. Andy, thanks

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Speaker 2: for being here with us. Excuse our manners here if

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Speaker 2: we have to cut you in the middle for this

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Speaker 2: press conference, but obviously you'd understand give us your thoughts

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Speaker 2: going into the fact that we have new information this morning.

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Speaker 2: A twenty two year old from Utah, Tyler Robinson, Good morning.

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Speaker 26: It's always for jennalists like myself a literal race against

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Speaker 26: the few minutes we have to find what information that

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Speaker 26: might be online once the name is leaked, and then

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Speaker 26: information is pretty quickly scrubbed, and that looks like that's

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Speaker 26: happening as we speak. So I haven't been able to

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Speaker 26: look into this name yet, and from what I'm just

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Speaker 26: seeing briefly online from other people posting on social media

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Speaker 26: that the stuff has been taken down. But usually social

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Speaker 26: media can provide someone idea of maybe context of ideologically

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Speaker 26: where a person may be. I don't know anything about

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Speaker 26: this individual yet, and I hope that soon, right after

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Speaker 26: this interview, I'm going to be digging into that.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as I was saying, I did the exact same

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Speaker 4: thing at Andy and went immediately to look up their

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Speaker 4: social media, found his mother's social media, and they're removing

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Speaker 4: it in real time, and I'm trying to screenshot it

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Speaker 4: as quickly as I can, just looking for any sort

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Speaker 4: of indication of anything that looks shady or abnormal or

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Speaker 4: red flag kind of stuff and really not seeing anything.

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Speaker 4: This will certainly inform the narrative on this story, but

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Speaker 4: it'll leave us with a lot more questions that people

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Speaker 4: like you will have to try to dig in an answer.

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Speaker 26: Yes, I'm still very fixated on the alleged ATF leak

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Speaker 26: of the internal memo that the rifle cartridges may have

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Speaker 26: had inscriptions that were of political nature. CNN reported that

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Speaker 26: there were multiple arrows. That was the quote, and I

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Speaker 26: immediately thought of an ANTIFA logo. We don't know that's

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Speaker 26: actually what it is, but that's what I'm most curious about,

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Speaker 26: because that would be particularly most revealing about a motive.

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Speaker 5: Andy, do you think that the FBI will go into

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Speaker 5: that particular part of the investigation during its upcoming news conference.

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Speaker 5: Obviously it's not all been confirmed, but they are questions.

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Speaker 5: I would imagine if you were party to this news conference,

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Speaker 5: it would be a question you would pose, are you

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Speaker 5: expecting to get those answers or confirmations from the FBI

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Speaker 5: this morning?

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Speaker 26: I am not expecting that at this point. I think

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Speaker 26: based on the prior press conferences, they're basically releasing what

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Speaker 26: little information they can as it comes out. The press

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Speaker 26: conference that happened last night, for example, only had this

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Speaker 26: video the person ventures jumping off the building and escaping,

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Speaker 26: and then to plead for the public to come forward.

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Speaker 26: I imagine that since this information about unrest is so new,

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Speaker 26: that that's probably the only thing that we'll hear.

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Speaker 2: Andy, did it surprise you at all that I say

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Speaker 2: it took this long? Maybe I'm wrong to say it

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Speaker 2: took this long? Or does this sound pretty normal to you?

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Speaker 1: What's your kind of assessment of that.

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Speaker 26: It surprised me in the sense that once we had

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Speaker 26: images of the real person of interest following several false arrests,

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Speaker 26: that he looked so young, and there were you know,

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Speaker 26: this was this didn't happen in the middle of a

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Speaker 26: rural area where there are no cameras. This is a

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Speaker 26: university campus. There was immediately a big law enforcement presence,

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Speaker 26: and the fact that the person of interest is twenty

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Speaker 26: two years old and was able to get away for

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Speaker 26: days that was surprising, and it spurred a lot of

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Speaker 26: hypotheses online that maybe it was a much more professional

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Speaker 26: operation that remains to be seen, but that these you know,

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Speaker 26: fell agonizing in these hours that kept going by, and

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Speaker 26: that it was false arrests after false arrest and it

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Speaker 26: seemed like cope was fading that we could get we

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Speaker 26: could apprehend somebody alive.

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Speaker 5: M Absolutely, Andy. We appreciate your time. Andy No joining

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Speaker 5: us this morning here on American Sunrise. Thanks so much

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Speaker 5: for your expertise and your perspective.

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Speaker 7: Thanks Andy, my pleasure.

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Speaker 5: Well, ladies and gentlemen, we're standing by for a news

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Speaker 5: conference that is going to happen. It's breaking news coverage

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Speaker 5: of the very latest on the investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder.

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Speaker 5: There's a live shot of the podium. We're expecting FBI

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Speaker 5: officials along with state officials there in Utah and local

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Speaker 5: officials to answer our questions and to hopefully lay out

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Speaker 5: the very latest in this case, as a suspect has

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Speaker 5: now reportedly been arrested, and we'll get more information.

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Speaker 3: More breaking news coverage after this.

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Speaker 13: Break breaking news from Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 2: All right, as we've been reporting all morning and now

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Speaker 2: we have in the last just a few minutes, know

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Speaker 2: that twenty two year old Tyler Robinson was named as

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Speaker 2: the suspect and Charlie Kirk assassination. For more let's bring

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Speaker 2: him the host of America's Voice Live. That would be

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Speaker 2: Steve Gruper. Steve, I want to I want to get

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Speaker 2: your take on it, and I just had something here.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to kind of double check something.

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Speaker 2: But I don't have it quite yet, But Steve, go ahead,

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Speaker 2: tell us. Tell us what you're you're Oh, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I realized a little scattered this morning. So what I

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Speaker 2: want to hear at this FBI press conference which we're

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Speaker 2: waiting for it is.

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Speaker 1: The following was he captured or did he turn himself in?

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Speaker 2: We're hearing that he turned himself in, so it was

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Speaker 2: not like the FBI captured him like in a man hunt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like without the father turning him in.

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Speaker 2: You know, I just want more information about that and

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of other questions.

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Speaker 1: I see.

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Speaker 27: You know, wasn't too long ago that there was a

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Speaker 27: shooting on the campus of Michigan State University, not far

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Speaker 27: from where I sit today. And one of the things

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Speaker 27: that the nagging question to me is how did he

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Speaker 27: gain access to the roof. That's been my nagging question

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Speaker 27: from the beginning because usually roof access is restricted, very restricted.

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Speaker 27: How did he get on the roof because obviously the

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Speaker 27: exit was over the side of the building when he

2086
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Speaker 27: jumped to the ground, right, So we know that clearly,

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Speaker 27: that's a question. And every college campus, every high school,

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Speaker 27: every middle school, every school has strict security protocols for

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Speaker 27: all the reasons were very clear about. And so how

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Speaker 27: did he gain access to that roof? That's my question?

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Speaker 27: What's sad about it? And this has been a gut

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Speaker 27: wrenching two days for all of us.

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Speaker 3: I knew Charlie.

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Speaker 7: You all knew Charlie.

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Speaker 27: And we're going to break this down. I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 27: where did this kid? You know, it looks like you

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Speaker 27: went to Utah State University. Maybe I see a video

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Speaker 27: here of him reading the acceptance letter online to a

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Speaker 27: camera of some sort.

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Speaker 7: Anyhow, why did this happen? Gine?

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Speaker 27: I heard you remark during the break, looks like a

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Speaker 27: remarkably ordinary family. Well, then, who turned this kid into

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Speaker 27: a monster? Who turned a kid into somebody who wanted

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Speaker 27: to shoot America? Because really, by shooting Charlie Kirk, you

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Speaker 27: shot the Constitution, you shot free speech, You shot.

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Speaker 7: Every one of us.

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Speaker 27: By doing that, you put a bullet into freedom. Charlie

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Speaker 27: Kirk was a good guy. He'd debate anybody. He didn't

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Speaker 27: agree with you, And I say, but he would debate

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Speaker 27: anybody and share ideas back and forth. And he would

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Speaker 27: get yelled at, and he got death threats, and he

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Speaker 27: knew he was a targop. But he had the courage

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Speaker 27: to go out there and talk about his Christian convictions,

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Speaker 27: to talk about his belief in this country, talk about

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Speaker 27: his belief in people. That's why whether he loved people,

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Speaker 27: and they gunned him down.

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Speaker 7: Because he was an American.

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Speaker 27: And I think that's what hurts me the most, honestly,

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Speaker 27: and it hurts me deep.

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna kid you have an emotional.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned the roof, and with a backpack with

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Speaker 4: a gun that was in pieces and a screwdriver. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I guess there was no metal nothing, no metal detectors,

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Speaker 4: no security of any kind because you can't walk into

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Speaker 4: a football game with that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Look, the security was suspect.

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Speaker 27: But here's the question, is any outdoor venue safe anymore?

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Speaker 27: You've got nutjobs out there. You just called for what

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Speaker 27: it is. You got nutjobs out there. And he got

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Speaker 27: access to a hunting rifle, a thirty odd six.

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Speaker 7: And here's I believe that he as sad as.

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Speaker 27: What I'm going to say is I believe it to

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Speaker 27: be true. I believe he missed his shot, but full

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Speaker 27: luck gave him a fatal shot. I believe he was

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Speaker 27: trying for a headshot, but at thirty odd six sighted

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Speaker 27: in at one hundred yards drops eight inches at two

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Speaker 27: hundred yards. He was not experienced, didn't know what he

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Speaker 27: was doing. I think he was trying to shoot Charlie

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Speaker 27: Kirk in the head in front of three thousand people,

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Speaker 27: and he missed. But sadly, his miss turned into a

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Speaker 27: fatal shot, and he stole somebody from us that he

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Speaker 27: was not entitled to take. He stole somebody from his

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Speaker 27: wife and his children. But I will tell you this,

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Speaker 27: my friends, Charlie Kirk had more people hear him and

2145
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Speaker 27: see him yesterday than at any time in his life.

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Speaker 7: He is bigger in death.

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Speaker 27: His message is bigger and more powerful in death than

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Speaker 27: it was in life. And that's little consolation today, But

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Speaker 27: it's true. And the seeds that he planted across this

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Speaker 27: country for Christianity, for freedom, for the Constitution, they will

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Speaker 27: grow and they will bear fruit.

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Speaker 7: You mark my words.

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Speaker 1: You know what. We have a lot of questions. We're

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Speaker 1: about to get some answers, so we'll wait and see.

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Speaker 2: I will say this about what the social media stuff

2156
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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 1: Looks can be deceiving. Looks can be deceiving.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what was really going on, and hopefully

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Speaker 2: we'll get some more answers.

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Speaker 1: We're back in a moment. We'll get to this press

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Speaker 1: conference when it happens.

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Speaker 28: Stay with us breaking news from Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 12: Welcome back to American Sunrise. I am Emily Finn, continuing

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Speaker 12: our breaking news coverage. Thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 12: us this morning. It has been a rough week as

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Speaker 12: we all mourn the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Let's continue

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Speaker 12: with our coverage with Terrence, doctor Gina and David Terrence.

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Speaker 12: Incredibly heartbreaking everything that we saw this week, and hopefully

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Speaker 12: we'll have some more answers in just a few moments

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Speaker 12: at that press conference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's key. America needs answers.

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Speaker 5: We need to find out more about this suspect twenty

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Speaker 5: two years old.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say his name.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to give him that sort of notoriety,

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Speaker 5: even though there's an argument to be made that the

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Speaker 5: name is pertinent, but I'm just going to say there's

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Speaker 5: a twenty two year old suspect who is said to

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Speaker 5: be in custody. He is from Utah, and we'll hopefully

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Speaker 5: get some more answers at this US upcoming news conference

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Speaker 5: about him. I think there are also lots of questions

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Speaker 5: to be answered about how he was able to gain

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Speaker 5: access to a roof and ultimately shoot Charlie Kirk. Again,

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Speaker 5: that's the allegation against him, and then motive. I think

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Speaker 5: many Americans deserve to know and are going to want

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Speaker 5: to know what motivated all of this. So there are

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Speaker 5: lots of questions, and David, you probably have many more.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And if the father we're hearing obviously from President

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Speaker 2: trumpet others, the father turned him in, there would obviously

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Speaker 2: be a debrief of what any sort of motive may

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Speaker 2: have been. So we should have at least I want

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Speaker 2: to say, preliminary, so some idea at the beginning as

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Speaker 2: to what was going on inside his head. To a

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Speaker 2: degree MS suggesting we're going to see a manifesto or

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Speaker 2: anything today.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what we're going to see.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Gina, I understand that there was a

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Speaker 2: three minute warning about three and a half minutes ago,

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Speaker 2: So we're any.

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Speaker 1: Moment now, Gina.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, again, just looking over social media here and finding

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Speaker 4: absolutely nothing extraordinary. I mean, this family looked as normal

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Speaker 4: as normal could possibly be, So it just really gives

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Speaker 4: you more questions. You know, doesn't look like this kid

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Speaker 4: was from a bad family. He wasn't from a broken family,

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Speaker 4: he wasn't from a fatherless home. He's really not fitting

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Speaker 4: any of the categories. So it'll be interesting to hear

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Speaker 4: what sorts of perhaps medicines he was on, if he

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Speaker 4: was somehow indoctrinated. But I'm not seeing any sort of

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Speaker 4: radicalism whatsoever, and a very very almost extraordinarily normal family,

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Speaker 4: which is sort of hard for me to personally believe.

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Speaker 4: I thought I was going to see something a lot

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Speaker 4: more interesting. The only interesting thing on this page is

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Speaker 4: that people have started coming in and saying horrendous things

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Speaker 4: in the comments on the pages. But that's about it.

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Speaker 5: David, if I can just add you mentioned that about

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Speaker 5: three and a half minutes ago we got a three

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Speaker 5: minute warning. Probably about twenty minutes ago we got the

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Speaker 5: first three minute warning, and.

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Speaker 3: Nothing has come yet. No one has taken to the.

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Speaker 5: Podium, which says to me, as someone who has covered

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Speaker 5: news conferences across this country, that officials are in the back.

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Speaker 5: They are somewhere huddled up trying to make sure that

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Speaker 5: they've got all their i's dotted, all their tea's crossed,

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Speaker 5: and that everyone is on the same page and that

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Speaker 5: everyone fully knows what is going on and the message

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Speaker 5: that they are going to share to the American people.

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Speaker 5: That would be my suspicion. Again, that's coming from a

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Speaker 5: place of information. Having covered these sorts of things. You've

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Speaker 5: covered many as well. Do you agree, what do you

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Speaker 5: suspect is going on behind the scenes?

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Speaker 2: Not only do I agree, you've stole my line dotting

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Speaker 2: knives and crossing t's, that's exactly what they're doing. And

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Speaker 2: maybe to use an actor's or you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: an actor term, I bet you there's quite a few

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Speaker 2: rewrites going on as well. They've got to get this

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Speaker 2: right off the bat, and that's crucial, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Cash Betel knows that obviously, being in media and all

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Speaker 2: of that. So how they present today is part of this.

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Speaker 2: It's not just about the facts, that's number one. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: there's a pr aspect sadly to all of this and

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Speaker 2: that's important secondarily, maybe even third or fourth, but it's there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we have to say goodbye. We will see

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Speaker 4: you all again on Monday morning, but continued coverage of

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Speaker 4: course coming up on wrap at War Room. Prayers go

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Speaker 4: out to the Kirk family. Prayers for our nation. Definitely,

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Speaker 4: how your children love your God, go boldly, now live

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Speaker 4: the truth.