Speaker 1: Hello everybody. I'm Robert Evanson. This is once again Behind
Speaker 1: the Bastards, the show where we tell you everything you
Speaker 1: don't know about the very worst people in all of history.
Speaker 1: And this week today I should say, we have a
Speaker 1: special bonus episode with our special bonus guest, Jamie Loftus bonus.
Speaker 1: That's better than normal. It's good. If I was just like,
Speaker 1: this is just our boring as run of the mill guests,
Speaker 1: they're like, oh we got this too, Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: this is a surprise. This is like on Tuesday we
Speaker 1: gave our audience like a sandwich, and today ice cream Sunday. Okay,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, not a bad surprise, not like
Speaker 1: a flash mob or anything. No, no, no, like one
Speaker 1: of the ice cream Sundays they order on Star Trek
Speaker 1: that are gigantic and larger than any human being whatever
Speaker 1: actually eat, because oh yeah, people are always ordering ice
Speaker 1: cream Sundays on Star Trek. Should watch that program. It's
Speaker 1: got a lot of ice cream really, like pornographically large
Speaker 1: ice cream sun more ice cream based media. So, Jamie,
Speaker 1: how are you doing today? I'm good. Thanks for having
Speaker 1: me back, Thanks for coming back. Now, regular listeners will
Speaker 1: not that Jamie was with us on our very first
Speaker 1: episode where we talked about Saddam Hussein's romantic novels which
Speaker 1: we still have, which we still have, just need to
Speaker 1: get it translated. Yeah, we've got a new romantic novel
Speaker 1: from Saddam. Oh okay, that is his third novel, but
Speaker 1: the one that hasn't been translated that we're prolific. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to crack the code and do some stage readings.
Speaker 1: We have to translate it from Japanese, the only language
Speaker 1: it's been published and since he was hung But any
Speaker 1: listeners feel like translating an entire book, like a hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty thousand words. But to be fair, we hear
Speaker 1: they're pretty good. We're here, it's pretty good. It's supposed
Speaker 1: to be Saddam's Game of Thrones. Yeah, toward it forthcoming.
Speaker 1: But today we are talking about Paul Manafort. But before
Speaker 1: we do that, I should introduce what you do, Jamie.
Speaker 1: You have a podcast, the Bectel Cast. I do on
Speaker 1: this on this very hate slits What's Up network? That
Speaker 1: that is what we call our network. It's located on
Speaker 1: the New York Stock Exchange is just sluts. But need
Speaker 1: to I know and they're like, oh wow, slut stock
Speaker 1: is up and they're not wrong. Uh yeah Bechtel cast
Speaker 1: comedian writer. That's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Well today, Jamie,
Speaker 1: you know who we're talking about because you just listened
Speaker 1: to the first two parts we've done on Paul Manafort.
Speaker 1: Really listened, big fans. In fact, that's very sweet. I
Speaker 1: heard you do an ad about belts. I'm actually wearing
Speaker 1: the belt that we advertise right now. Wow. I just
Speaker 1: spent nine on belts. You has sold me on the belt.
Speaker 1: That's a nice belt. You ordered a lot of belts.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of belts. That's too many belts
Speaker 1: from the belt And I'm like, paumana for I don't
Speaker 1: know how much things cost. Well, we'll be talking about
Speaker 1: Paul Manafort's taste in clothing and uh and what he
Speaker 1: spends on clothing, and we'll also be talking about some
Speaker 1: some really painfully personal text messages between his daughters. Did
Speaker 1: you search the data? Oh yeah, yeah, We're going to
Speaker 1: be right on the edge of good taste with this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's id. So when we last left our dear friend
Speaker 1: Paul Manaford his trial for massive financial fraud and failing
Speaker 1: to register as a foreign agent was about to begin.
Speaker 1: In the weeks since that episode, Paul Manafort has been
Speaker 1: convicted and rolled as far as a man can roll,
Speaker 1: and signed a plea agreement with the Mueller or Mueller investigation.
Speaker 1: That's fun. Kind of angry at him for having a
Speaker 1: name that makes me want to say Mueller when Muller.
Speaker 1: I know he chose. I mean, at some point the
Speaker 1: less fun pronunciation was canonical. I imagine that he has
Speaker 1: this last name because for generations back in the old Country,
Speaker 1: his family just mulled wine, put like spices and hot wine.
Speaker 1: I always wonder, I'm like, what did my family and
Speaker 1: my family ever done anything? They lofted, they what they
Speaker 1: had lofts. They were built lots my guests. Therefore they
Speaker 1: weren't living in them. There probably making them that. Or
Speaker 1: they were aircraft pioneers. Oh that would be kind of nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were Italian aircraft pioneers and it was the aloft
Speaker 1: is faan late and then they came here in Ellis Island.
Speaker 1: They were like, no, we're taking the a off now
Speaker 1: and then we're now we're going to build lofts for
Speaker 1: other people. And now you make that clat tail as
Speaker 1: oldest time, and now I do that today. And Paul
Speaker 1: Manaforts ancestors manned forts, kind of true, kind of kind
Speaker 1: of true, kind of true, true enough, journey with you,
Speaker 1: everyone's last name, the secret to their their ancestry. My
Speaker 1: relatives lived in vans. There you go, we go so
Speaker 1: um like digital vans. Yes, even Yeah, I enjoyed that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a fun little digression. So this moment, we
Speaker 1: don't know how long exactly Paul Manaforts going to spend
Speaker 1: in prison. I think next Februaries when he gets sentenced.
Speaker 1: The max from the plea deal he signed is a decade,
Speaker 1: but it will probably be somewhat less than that. However,
Speaker 1: since Paul is already sixty nine, even a five years
Speaker 1: switch pretty sick. Even a five year sentence is good
Speaker 1: chance of being a life sentence for him. The odds
Speaker 1: of Paul Manafort dying in prison seemed to have raised recently,
Speaker 1: based on an appearance he made in court on Friday,
Speaker 1: October nine. Is this the wheelchair thing? This is the
Speaker 1: wheelchair thing? Yeah? Okay. Paul was wheeled into court in
Speaker 1: a wheelchair and looking very sick. His lawyer says that
Speaker 1: he has significant health issues related to the terms of
Speaker 1: his confinement. He had like his one leg elevated and
Speaker 1: like a sock on instead of his shoes so much,
Speaker 1: so much it reminded me of when Robert Durst when
Speaker 1: the court wearing a neck brace and was like, I
Speaker 1: couldn't have done it. I was on meth. That was
Speaker 1: what Manaford took it to an eleven. He's like, if
Speaker 1: Robert Durst had no personality, Yeah, nobody wanted to hang
Speaker 1: out with Robert Durst, which everyone unfortunately does. I mean,
Speaker 1: who wouldn't. He's so cool, super cool. I used to
Speaker 1: make calendars of my fan art of him. I know
Speaker 1: that that's not joke, which takes it a step too far,
Speaker 1: and I stopped doing it. Well, you know, when you
Speaker 1: realize you can step too far, what are your options?
Speaker 1: You step backwards, or you step even further, or you
Speaker 1: make posters, Yeah, you make posters that you change your
Speaker 1: name anyway. Paul Manaford, Yeah, basically it seems like he's
Speaker 1: claiming he has gout and that's what he has to
Speaker 1: be in a wheelchair in his leg. That rich Man's
Speaker 1: the rich man rich Man leg. Yeah, rich eating too
Speaker 1: much sugar. I don't know, either gout or diabetes would
Speaker 1: be possible causes of something like that, or he might
Speaker 1: just be lying to try and get, you know, out
Speaker 1: of being in prison for longer. Does he have a
Speaker 1: history of history of Paul Manaford? Does he has he
Speaker 1: ever lied before? I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we have any evidence of him being manipulative. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have no evidence that killed anyone. No, we don't know.
Speaker 1: I accepted in self defence and self defense and that
Speaker 1: time he admitted it in the bathroom, and that with
Speaker 1: Paul Manaford. Of course, we have the text messages his
Speaker 1: daughter sent and talking about the things their dad told them.
Speaker 1: The daughters are so chaotic evil. It's amazing how almost
Speaker 1: no criminals at that level of crime can avoid admitting
Speaker 1: what they've done. Like, you don't run into a lot
Speaker 1: of like crack dealers who in interviews with people are like, yep,
Speaker 1: I sell crack, right. I don't know. If you're doing crimes,
Speaker 1: don't brag about it. Don't brag about the crimes while
Speaker 1: you're committing them in public. It's pretty wild. Don't tell
Speaker 1: your daughters who text on unsecured cell phones about the
Speaker 1: crimes you're committing for a dictator. These are lessons that
Speaker 1: nobody should actually learn, because then these people wouldn't get caught.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's true. Yea. So Paul Manafort is apparently
Speaker 1: very sick and on death's door. According to Paul Manafort,
Speaker 1: have to be released, Let me out of prison. Police.
Speaker 1: The prosecution does still have the option to waive a
Speaker 1: lot of his convictions if he helps them out enough.
Speaker 1: So right now, the ten things that he wasn't convicted
Speaker 1: for when he got his original intense they've said, we're
Speaker 1: not going to try you again on these things, but
Speaker 1: we could try him again if he doesn't wind up
Speaker 1: giving the prosecution very much. So is the deadline for
Speaker 1: that when his trial begins or is that just indefinite.
Speaker 1: I think it's like by February or something, if they're
Speaker 1: going to triumph with no It seems like there is
Speaker 1: a ticking clock. We're going to see what else they
Speaker 1: get from him. But yeah, it's possible he'll be dismissed
Speaker 1: and won't spend much more time in prison. It's possible
Speaker 1: he will die there. I do want to draw your attention,
Speaker 1: Jamie to one last line from a CNN article that
Speaker 1: I read that was sort of introducing the fact that
Speaker 1: he'd come to court in a wheelchair. Quote. Manafort's wife
Speaker 1: was not in the courtroom on Friday. She previously attended
Speaker 1: most of his hearings in the entirety of his Virginia trial.
Speaker 1: Why might that be? I don't I don't know. Was
Speaker 1: it perhaps that he was serially philandering on her and
Speaker 1: probably wasn't actually sick? Now, his rampant cheating may have
Speaker 1: had something to do with the fact that she wasn't there,
Speaker 1: although she knew about Everyone knew about his rampant cheating
Speaker 1: when she was there for his Virginia trial. Um. But
Speaker 1: some more information about Paul Manafford's love life has cropped
Speaker 1: up since the last time we discussed him. Do you
Speaker 1: wanna take a guess at what else he did? Dish?
Speaker 1: Do you do some freaky ship that wasn't legal? Well,
Speaker 1: the legality is in question, but it seems like he
Speaker 1: repeatedly forced his wife to have group sex with anonymous men,
Speaker 1: despite her horror at the idea and complete disinclination to
Speaker 1: do so. That is absolutely horrible. Now, that's just according
Speaker 1: to his daughters. There the most possible reli Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: so when was this happening. Well, this was apparently was
Speaker 1: happening for years, but the text message conversations his daughters
Speaker 1: found out in late two thousand fourteen. So then why
Speaker 1: has his wife decided to just be like angry enough
Speaker 1: to not come to court about that? Now, It's interesting.
Speaker 1: Part of me would guess that maybe it's you know,
Speaker 1: with abusive relationships, oftentimes people feel sort of still attached
Speaker 1: to that person until they get enough distance to realize,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that was fucked up, or get like
Speaker 1: enough information of like know this person was doing all
Speaker 1: this stuff and then some you got to get to
Speaker 1: the end vandem and they were together for a long time,
Speaker 1: you know, she made him Yeah, forty years. We're going
Speaker 1: to read some conversation between his daughters. They give you
Speaker 1: some insight into his wife's head. So she was clearly
Speaker 1: I'm not going to judge her at all. I don't
Speaker 1: even feel comfortable using her name in the episode, just
Speaker 1: because like, go live your life, lady, Like, yeah, get out.
Speaker 1: That's so horrible that he subjected her to that in
Speaker 1: the first place. Yes, So here's Paul's daughter Andrea texting
Speaker 1: her sister Jess about their mother. This is right after
Speaker 1: Andrea found out what had been happening. Quote. She just
Speaker 1: admitted to me how she feels like she always does
Speaker 1: stuff he wants, but he doesn't do the stuff she wants.
Speaker 1: And I asked, what does he make you do? And
Speaker 1: she said group sex and it makes her sick. She
Speaker 1: is saying that we can never tell him. We know
Speaker 1: that she is confiding in us, but if he finds out,
Speaker 1: we know there is no way he will ever forgive
Speaker 1: her for telling us. He likes to watch her, to
Speaker 1: which Jess respond she has to leave him if she
Speaker 1: doesn't want that, and he does. Dad is a sex addict, Andrea,
Speaker 1: I've known about this for a long time. So his
Speaker 1: daughter's repeatedly make mentions of the fact that they think
Speaker 1: their dad is a sex addict. So that seems to
Speaker 1: be like commonly accepted knowledge within the Man and Fort family.
Speaker 1: But I also think that's really unfair because it becomes
Speaker 1: clear later that what he's doing goes beyond sex addiction.
Speaker 1: So at one point, Jess claims that their dad refuses
Speaker 1: therapy because it feels to him like he isn't the
Speaker 1: dominant one. Uh tracks. That tracks and another conversation his
Speaker 1: daughters describe quote the stuff he has made her do
Speaker 1: as outrageous, involving a room full of men and just
Speaker 1: her while dad tapes it all. Um, Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's so frustrating because when stories like that break,
Speaker 1: it just turns into like this kink shaming party when
Speaker 1: it's like, no, the issues she did not want to
Speaker 1: do it and her husband was making her do it
Speaker 1: anyways because power dynamics be fucked up. Yeah, the issue
Speaker 1: is not Paul Manaffords life in Paul Manaford. Are having
Speaker 1: crazy group sex. That's fine if you're both into it,
Speaker 1: dope tape. Otherwise, Yeah, exactly, leak the tape. I actually
Speaker 1: would like to listen that statement. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see Paulman for having groups X. I just don't. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see having group sex. But I'm on
Speaker 1: record that I think if you're a federal level politician
Speaker 1: the United States and elected, you should be filmed. Well,
Speaker 1: you should be filmed at all times, like if you
Speaker 1: want to be in Congress, you want to be the president,
Speaker 1: you want to be a supreme but we see every
Speaker 1: time you go to the bathroom, every time you fuck
Speaker 1: you can just tune in on a channel, and if
Speaker 1: you screw up there, like we're leaking your poo poo
Speaker 1: pep tapes, you'll just be available. Everyone can stream that.
Speaker 1: So for all politicians, all of them, all the time.
Speaker 1: If you want to be elected, that's what you do. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think that would fix Are you a sinister view?
Speaker 1: I mean if it's so politicians have to get hotter
Speaker 1: immediately or no one's going to watch, well that's probably
Speaker 1: all right. You don't want a lot of people watching.
Speaker 1: You want just enough people to make really good super
Speaker 1: cuts off everyone in Congress poopin. As a part of
Speaker 1: the hacker community, there will be hackers who developed technology
Speaker 1: to give you push notification to your phone every time
Speaker 1: your favorite politician PEPs it'll it'll slip fast, yeah, or
Speaker 1: like the Ted cruises fucking cam and everyone do I
Speaker 1: want to see t he's just making love to a
Speaker 1: can of lukewarm soup. I love that you give him
Speaker 1: the credit of assuming the soup would be lukewarm and
Speaker 1: not bone chillingly cold. No, he goes imagine just for
Speaker 1: everyone listening to Sure, Yeah, I don't even know. I
Speaker 1: think he has sex with a flacid penis. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you, Yeah, with a flasid penis Fox a lukewarm
Speaker 1: ca can of soup. Yeah, Ted Cruise Fox, a lukewarm
Speaker 1: can of soup and doesn't even care that the kind
Speaker 1: of the sharp edges of the can are are grinding
Speaker 1: against his taint and cutting it open. He's got all this,
Speaker 1: He's got all these cuts on his penus. His wife's like, Ted,
Speaker 1: what's going on. It's like the soup. It's honest about
Speaker 1: the soup, Lion, Ted and see, and that's why we're
Speaker 1: not going to King shame Ted Cruz, because that's fine.
Speaker 1: Everyone should. Everyone has the right to a can of
Speaker 1: soup at least once. You gotta know, I'm more of
Speaker 1: like a bagged soup guy. You're whoa is there bagged soup?
Speaker 1: You've never had bagged soup? Where you get bagged sus
Speaker 1: You're an East coastie. Yeah, over there, we're all on
Speaker 1: the West coast. It's all in bags. Why that's just
Speaker 1: the best way to carry loose soup. You've never gone
Speaker 1: to one of those teenage sex parties where it's just
Speaker 1: a kmart bag full of warm soup. And honestly, I
Speaker 1: don't even like a soup. It's like power that was
Speaker 1: left in the sun. Like, I don't know how we
Speaker 1: got onto this digression. But so back to its daughters. So,
Speaker 1: after noting that their dad tapes everything, just said poor mom,
Speaker 1: Andrea said, she says, it's normal that you and I
Speaker 1: probably do it. I know, I feel so, so, so
Speaker 1: bad for her. Jess says, this is sick, Andrea, it's
Speaker 1: filming a gang bang. Andrea says, I know. Jess goes
Speaker 1: on to call her father abusive and claims that he
Speaker 1: made their mother into a shell of a human being,
Speaker 1: and then she said this. Mom says, you caught dad
Speaker 1: once on a website or something and confronted him about it,
Speaker 1: and he blew it off and told mom, see, she
Speaker 1: does it too. Andrew responds that yes, she's caught their
Speaker 1: father several times, and then says, I've seen the sights
Speaker 1: up on his Trump computer and I know that they
Speaker 1: had done group sex because of what Amanda told me
Speaker 1: she found. I even thought I told Mom about that.
Speaker 1: So it seems like from what his daughters are saying.
Speaker 1: Paul Manafort, donald Trump's campaign manager, was using his official
Speaker 1: Trump campaign issued computer to set up questionably consensual gang
Speaker 1: bangs with his wife. The election was going on, on
Speaker 1: the trail, on the trail, on the trail on the
Speaker 1: tried this poor woman and Jesus Christ. So again, we're
Speaker 1: not we're not we're not. We're not trying to do
Speaker 1: King shaming here. Uh yeah, but I mean, yeah, you
Speaker 1: have your sex computer and then your regular your work.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, but I guess if it's
Speaker 1: a Trump issued computer, it's okay to use it for
Speaker 1: sex crimes. It's probably mostly for sex crimes, right, probably
Speaker 1: actually will work faster than if you were doing work. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The reason that I think this is worth bringing up,
Speaker 1: in addition to the fact that it's just horrifying, is
Speaker 1: that it's kind of evidence that Paul Manafort conducted his
Speaker 1: sex life and his family life the same way he
Speaker 1: conducted his job, where it was all about what Paul
Speaker 1: Manafort could get and damn the human consequences of his actions.
Speaker 1: Like Paul Manafort wanted a gang bang, so even though
Speaker 1: his wife was obviously traumatized by all this stuff, they
Speaker 1: were going to keep doing it, like scheduling it to
Speaker 1: like meetings. Well, he's an organized guy. He's an organized guy.
Speaker 1: I can see his children during conference cast, just I wow,
Speaker 1: that is okay. Just Leader said quote, I've been finding
Speaker 1: his weird ship my whole life. I found his first
Speaker 1: black porn when I was eleven, but I figured it
Speaker 1: was once in a while and mom was into it.
Speaker 1: Clearly she was not. Jess goes on to lament her
Speaker 1: father's serious control issues and then claim that what her
Speaker 1: own father did to their mother was quote basically rape,
Speaker 1: adding that quote she is a destroyed person. Andrew agreed
Speaker 1: with us, saying, I agree this is emotional rape and
Speaker 1: basically physically as well. So basically, yea, Paul Manafford's daughters
Speaker 1: think their dad as a rapist. It is so, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's confusing and scary to me how self aware
Speaker 1: of everything that is happening that his daughters seemed, and
Speaker 1: yet ultimately always choose the path of evil like it.
Speaker 1: It seems like they could have busted their father so
Speaker 1: many times over if they had more. I mean, them
Speaker 1: being self aware is almost worse than if they were
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, who knows, like where this is just
Speaker 1: how people are? You know your dad is this gross
Speaker 1: and you know that he's trying to help another guy
Speaker 1: become president. Do you not wonder like maybe that guy's
Speaker 1: gross as hell too. Maybe whatever he supports in an
Speaker 1: election is the wrong one, right, Like, just don't do
Speaker 1: They're like there's so so many opportunities for them to
Speaker 1: get information from their dad and like help save something someone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're good guys in this. They're bystanders. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're bystanders when they didn't need to be. So
Speaker 1: that we've established Paul's ghoulish lack of fox for the
Speaker 1: human beings he professes to love, I'd like to read
Speaker 1: one last quote about his sex life. Here's jess quote.
Speaker 1: Did dad partake in the group? Were there women or
Speaker 1: was it always just him watching mom with other men?
Speaker 1: To which Andy responded she said he did partake, but
Speaker 1: like he could never get off. But apparently he has
Speaker 1: a thing for black men hardcore. One time it was
Speaker 1: six black men in a hotel room. I hate him, Jessica,
Speaker 1: I think I hate him. She said she would often
Speaker 1: be so drunk she couldn't stand. Again, I think we've
Speaker 1: got a pretty fair claim that Paul Man affords a
Speaker 1: rapist on a legal level. But yes, yeah, yeah, if
Speaker 1: he's drug people to have oh god, well, what a nightmare.
Speaker 1: He should be castrated. He should be sounds like he
Speaker 1: can't get it up anyway. It would be an easy cut.
Speaker 1: Have you're seen hard candy? Oh? A young Ellen Page
Speaker 1: cuts off Patrick Wilson's dick. WHOA, She's sorry spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: she's fourteen. The big centerpiece of the movie is she
Speaker 1: like bates, a guy who's like trying to get little
Speaker 1: girls to come over to his house, goes to his
Speaker 1: house and cuts his dick off. That sounds like a
Speaker 1: fun movie. It's a great movie, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: happen to Paul Manifort. You know what, I would support
Speaker 1: him being let out of president if Ellen Page had
Speaker 1: to cut off his penis has it's just on Ella,
Speaker 1: So it's going to fly hellic after to the island.
Speaker 1: She o you needed, miss Page. Okay, So part of
Speaker 1: me feels a little bit voyeuristic and even kind of
Speaker 1: grows appearing through these text messages. But I think Paul
Speaker 1: Manafort lived his life too publicly and involved himself too
Speaker 1: deeply in the lives and deaths and freedom of tens
Speaker 1: of millions of people to deserve any sort of privacy.
Speaker 1: Here the outrageous and vile way he treated his family's
Speaker 1: relevant because he's a man who sought to and did
Speaker 1: impact the world. And on that note, Paul's daughters had
Speaker 1: some interesting things to say about their father's actions in
Speaker 1: Ukraine and the prior episodes we covered how Paul's advice
Speaker 1: to former Ukrainian President Yanukovich was to basically exacerbate the
Speaker 1: divide between East and West in order to consolidate power.
Speaker 1: Maniford also urged the would be dictated to crackdown violently
Speaker 1: on the Midan protesters. His actions were a major influence
Speaker 1: in the murder of more than a hundred protesters, often
Speaker 1: by government snipers. Now at one point in February two fourteen,
Speaker 1: when these protests were going on, and when in fact
Speaker 1: the government was murdering people with snipers at Paul Manafort's
Speaker 1: best one of Andrew's friends texted her to ask if
Speaker 1: her dad was mentally and emotionally okay over all this.
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing that like Andrew's friends saw vague TV
Speaker 1: news about unrest in Ukraine and was like, oh, boy,
Speaker 1: I know that Andrew's dad spends a lot of time
Speaker 1: over there. I'd better check in on her, Andrew replied, yes,
Speaker 1: what are you even talking about? Her friend explained all
Speaker 1: the protests in Ukraine. Andrea said, what about them? And
Speaker 1: he said, I don't know. Isn't that stressful on him?
Speaker 1: Andrea said he's totally fine, and her friends said, oh, okay, good.
Speaker 1: I think I think he was spelled that. No, I
Speaker 1: think it was a cutesy middle school reply. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So two day's letter later, President Yanukovich fled Ukraine in
Speaker 1: disgrace and the protesters won. The civil war sparked off
Speaker 1: pretty much immediately afterwards, and two days after that, Andrea's
Speaker 1: friend texted her again, asking how's your pops doing with
Speaker 1: all the Ukraine bs, to which Andrea responded, he's pechy.
Speaker 1: Keene doesn't affect him. Okay, thanks for checking in and
Speaker 1: speaking of in there. It's an ad pivot you got.
Speaker 1: You got a better pivot than that loft, you know.
Speaker 1: It's really okay. The goods and services you're about to
Speaker 1: be advertised nailed it. We're back okay. So I should
Speaker 1: note that the text we just read came several months
Speaker 1: before Andrea first became aware of the extent of her
Speaker 1: father's sexual abuse of her mother. She seems to take
Speaker 1: a perverse sort of pride in her father's gratitude at
Speaker 1: this point, and then seems to have changed over the
Speaker 1: course of so in November of two fteen, she texted
Speaker 1: her sister this quote, I hate him, Jessica. I am
Speaker 1: being really strong right now and telling Mom it's okay,
Speaker 1: and I don't judge her. And the only thing that
Speaker 1: really upsets me is how all this made her feel
Speaker 1: and how he made her feel that way. But between
Speaker 1: you and me, I fucking hate him. He gets off
Speaker 1: on controlling her. He orders food for her, he dresses her,
Speaker 1: he gives her to do lists. She is his puppet,
Speaker 1: no wonder, she is a shell. So it's an interesting
Speaker 1: she she is capable of understanding her how shitty her
Speaker 1: dad is when he hurts her mom, But when he's
Speaker 1: ordering a crackdown in a foreign country that leads to
Speaker 1: hundreds of deaths and eventually thousands, it's like he's fine.
Speaker 1: Most wealthy people can see pass the tip of their
Speaker 1: own nuts. He would think that, like there would have
Speaker 1: been some like wake up moment. I don't know when
Speaker 1: she realized how bad her dad was, Like, oh, maybe
Speaker 1: the things he's been doing around the world are terrible
Speaker 1: and should let's take a look. Let's take a look
Speaker 1: and try to expose how awful a man my dad
Speaker 1: is once he starts leading a presidential campaign. Right, So,
Speaker 1: here's Andrea. He rented her at Hampton's house a mile
Speaker 1: from us and would see her every week from Monday
Speaker 1: Wednesday and tell my mom he was working. And then
Speaker 1: the dumb bitch posted picks of our homes all over Instagram.
Speaker 1: He's way too smart to have been this dumb about it.
Speaker 1: He either wanted to be caught or his next level arrogant,
Speaker 1: or doesn't understand how the internet. It's just a dumb
Speaker 1: old man. Yeah, it's like if you look at him,
Speaker 1: he's born. I feel like there does reach a point
Speaker 1: with a lot of like politicians and world leaders where
Speaker 1: it's like, you can be a genius, but if you
Speaker 1: don't know how computer work, you're fucked. Yes, someone's like,
Speaker 1: can I post this on Instagram? And he's like, maybe
Speaker 1: he thinks that's flicker or something else where it's like
Speaker 1: a private photo. Yeah he doesn't know, Yeah, google it. Yeah, yeah. Computer.
Speaker 1: Because she's she's significantly younger than him, younger than so
Speaker 1: she understands. Listen, some people die. Flexing on the grams.
Speaker 1: It's a it's an epidemic, flexing on the GRAM, flexing
Speaker 1: on the Robert, are you not flexing on the ground.
Speaker 1: I have never used the grand I know, I think Sophie.
Speaker 1: Sophie runs the GRAM. You guys are flexing on the graund.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that would mean. Get that dopamine.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you're talking about dealing drugs. I am,
Speaker 1: you gotta do it. This is now, I'm admitting it
Speaker 1: on a podcast classic. You heard it here first, folks,
Speaker 1: if you want to buy drugs. M So it gets grosser.
Speaker 1: According to Jess's quote, I mean he has taken her
Speaker 1: on his playlist of places, as in, like the restaurant
Speaker 1: he celebrates my mom's birthday every year with her, the
Speaker 1: place they went on their honeymoon, to all the restaurants
Speaker 1: they go to when they go to Paris for decades.
Speaker 1: So again, Paul mana four gross piece of shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's a piece of his aunt. Oh yeah. So,
Speaker 1: while Jess was parsing out the full extent of her
Speaker 1: dad's awfulness, Andrea realized that quote. He was at a
Speaker 1: beach resort off the coast of Ukraine with her the
Speaker 1: weekend of my fucking engagement party. No, that's so many levels,
Speaker 1: it's just Ukraine. On top of that, He's just so
Speaker 1: consistently as bad a human being as he can possibly be,
Speaker 1: going to let people down at every turn. It almost
Speaker 1: makes Donald Trump's lack of awareness that he has a
Speaker 1: younger daughter like he's a better parent to Tiffany than
Speaker 1: Paul Manaforts been either of his daughters. A lack of
Speaker 1: parenting is better than God. I still I used to
Speaker 1: believe that Tiffany was gonna save us. Why would you want?
Speaker 1: I wanted her because I because of the single and
Speaker 1: what she had a song. I had no idea Tiffany song.
Speaker 1: I wanted Tiffany Trump. She wouldn't save us for us,
Speaker 1: but I think she would have enough daddy rage to
Speaker 1: save us by accident. That was my home, Okay, but
Speaker 1: it didn't work out. Well. Maybe Tiffany Trump, if you're
Speaker 1: a fan of the show, I don't know, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? What you do? What could she do there?
Speaker 1: I mean, she isn't taught to try. I'd be willing
Speaker 1: to guess that the average reporter in d C has
Speaker 1: talked to her dad more than she has, probably, But
Speaker 1: then what are in her texts? Well yexts um So
Speaker 1: Paul man affords a gross slam bucket of human beings.
Speaker 1: So let's get back to the court case. If you
Speaker 1: just sort of skimmed the news headlines about it, you
Speaker 1: were probably aware of the fact that Mr manniboart you
Speaker 1: some of his ill gotten dictator money in order to
Speaker 1: buy a fifteen thousand dollar Ostrich skin jacket. Have you
Speaker 1: looked at a picture of this jacket? No? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it'll be on our website behind the bastards dot com.
Speaker 1: Look at this piece of shit. It's not even a
Speaker 1: nice looking jacket. No, it's just like, why does it
Speaker 1: have to be Ostrich skin? If it just looks like
Speaker 1: any jacket. It looks like any black fox leather jacket.
Speaker 1: You could get that top shot. And also it looks
Speaker 1: like you can tell Paul Manafort wearing it when you
Speaker 1: see Paul Manafort pictures. He wears it because he wants
Speaker 1: to look like a greaser. Yeah, he thinks. He thinks
Speaker 1: he's the funds. That's why he bought this fifteen thousand
Speaker 1: dollar Ostrich jacket. Embarrassing, and I think when people were
Speaker 1: making fun of it online, they were expecting with some
Speaker 1: sort of like ridiculous Ostrich plume jacket. It looks like
Speaker 1: a black jacket that you would buy for two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Something only Paul Manifert would spend that much money on
Speaker 1: a jacket that's boring and sucks. That's the only thing
Speaker 1: he buys is expensive, boring, shitty stuff, not even fun,
Speaker 1: not even fun to look at, So God bless him.
Speaker 1: The New York Post tracked down the Manhattan taylor who
Speaker 1: sold Paul Manafort his stupid, ugly Ostrich jacket, and it
Speaker 1: turns out this guy had sold Paul Manafort most of
Speaker 1: his other stupid, ugly and unbearably expensive rich person clothing.
Speaker 1: In the interview with the taylor, a guy named Maximilian
Speaker 1: Katsman who sounds like a rich guy. Okay, he sounds
Speaker 1: I can hear his mustache. First off, if your name
Speaker 1: is Maximilian in and you don't introduce yourself as Max,
Speaker 1: you're a tailor for rich people. That's just the way
Speaker 1: it goes. Uh. Some Max worked for Alan couldtur I
Speaker 1: guess that's how it spelled. A luxury menswear shop in
Speaker 1: New York City, where the elite meat to spend more
Speaker 1: than the GDP of some countries on suits that all
Speaker 1: look the same. Catsman said of the ostrich jacket purchase,
Speaker 1: this was during a fitting. It's simply caught his eyes.
Speaker 1: So it's like an impulse by so Pellman. Word just
Speaker 1: sees this jacket and it's like, God, should I throw
Speaker 1: this jacket the price of a nice midsize sedan on
Speaker 1: the pile. Christ, Yeah too, jackets and pay off my
Speaker 1: student loans. Paul fucking Paul. So Catsman's dad owns a
Speaker 1: lan couture, and he comes across as a rich fashion
Speaker 1: industry douchewaffle who's probably completely baffled by the idea that
Speaker 1: anyone would find it horrifying to spend fifteen thousand dollars
Speaker 1: of dictator blood money on a jacket he called Manafort
Speaker 1: style the quote professional politician. Look nothing too bold, nothing
Speaker 1: to artsy, nothing that could have fended someone in a
Speaker 1: very formal setting. So I'm gonna guess any individual suit,
Speaker 1: Mr Manafort wear's probably cost more money than the combined
Speaker 1: net worth of you and I. Here's a picture of
Speaker 1: him in a suit. Tell me that doesn't look like
Speaker 1: a Brooks Brothers hundred and fifty dollars suits. It's just
Speaker 1: a fucking blue suit, pab it doesn't even look good.
Speaker 1: This is this like every rich guy in politics. I
Speaker 1: don't okay, I mean, do you ever come up against this?
Speaker 1: Do you ever get frustrated when uh bastard won't go
Speaker 1: all the way? Yeah? That's why I like Elron Hubbard
Speaker 1: because like, you're a crazy, rich, evil monster, but you
Speaker 1: bought your own navy and made it search for gold
Speaker 1: like you wal you walked the Psycho walk. I don't like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that this weird Richmond. It's like I'm wearing what you're wearing,
Speaker 1: but mine is and more people died for it. Like
Speaker 1: buying it's like buying a private jet, which is like, no,
Speaker 1: that's just a way to waste more money if you're rich,
Speaker 1: not like that Google guy who's buying a blimp that's
Speaker 1: a house that he can fly around the world. That's
Speaker 1: evil and bad, yes, but at least he's not boring,
Speaker 1: but he had exactly there's creativity there. At least he's
Speaker 1: got a blimp. At least he's got a fucking blimp.
Speaker 1: At least when he's inevitably taken down, someone gets someone
Speaker 1: gets a blimp. It's like Eric Prince, horrible guy. But
Speaker 1: at least he's like trying to buy a navy in
Speaker 1: his own He's not like, don't do the boring ship
Speaker 1: that every rich asshole does and spend all of your
Speaker 1: money on stupid thing horse and clothes. Yeah, a horse,
Speaker 1: a horse, grow up. That's some Romney bullshit. They're like,
Speaker 1: by a blimp, God meant rowney the world's most boring
Speaker 1: rich man. Okay, so we know that Paul Mitt spent
Speaker 1: more than nine thousand dollars at alon CoA tour between
Speaker 1: two thous and ten and two thous and fourteen while
Speaker 1: he was working for Yunukovic. Catsman said of the Ostrich jacket,
Speaker 1: this is the epitome of you know, opulence. This is
Speaker 1: as over the top as we could get. That's the
Speaker 1: nicest way I could put it. That's a sales pitch,
Speaker 1: sales pitch. Um. I'm gonna read one last quote from
Speaker 1: from this guy. We sell over the moon exotic things
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, Catsman said, noting that a Vicuna
Speaker 1: wolf suit made from the underbelly of Peruvian camels runs
Speaker 1: thirty I'm surprised to see that this has become a thing. Now,
Speaker 1: when you're spending the income of an average American family
Speaker 1: on a suit that doesn't look any different from a
Speaker 1: normal suit, you might get people wanting to guillotine you.
Speaker 1: That's kind of how it works. Like they're coming for you.
Speaker 1: First seems like they're going to eat you. And and
Speaker 1: also whenever like people like that casually express surprise of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: no idea, why people are into it, You're like, then stop,
Speaker 1: then stop selling that kind of ship. Then stop. If
Speaker 1: you want to be a kind of person who wears
Speaker 1: a boring suit, go buy a three boring suit from
Speaker 1: Brooks Brothers or something, and then by a blimp, and
Speaker 1: then buy a fucking blimp by a blimp. So at least,
Speaker 1: at least if we're going to live in an oligarchy
Speaker 1: where the rich crush everyone who doesn't have as much
Speaker 1: money of them as them, at least there will be
Speaker 1: blimps in this guy, Let's bring back the Zeppelin, make
Speaker 1: Zeppelin's great again, Make Zeppelin great again. And then because
Speaker 1: then one poor person per Zepplin can just spark exactly
Speaker 1: done with Richard, then we can just Hendenburg all the Zeppelin.
Speaker 1: If we can convince the oligarchy that Zeppelin's are cool,
Speaker 1: and then we Hindenburg the oligarchy. There we go, there
Speaker 1: we go. Hashtag Hindenburg the Oligarchy. So Paul Manafort will
Speaker 1: not be keeping his ostrich skin jacket. I know that's
Speaker 1: a heartbreaker. He looks so good that there's no way
Speaker 1: he will not be keeping most of the ill gotten
Speaker 1: gains he earned in decades of helping the world's worst
Speaker 1: people torture, murder, and suppress millions upon millions of human
Speaker 1: beings and total, his Plea deal involves him giving up
Speaker 1: some forty five million dollars worth of assets, enough to
Speaker 1: pay for the entire Mueller investigation to date more than
Speaker 1: two times over. Yeah, No, Mueller investigations very cash flow positive.
Speaker 1: Right now, I was I would say, I'm surprised it's
Speaker 1: been that cheap. It's cost like eighty million, But then
Speaker 1: you get forty five million from one guy in the
Speaker 1: black You're black catch somewhere, rich guy's breaking loss. M
Speaker 1: maybe that's most of what law enforcement should be. Okay,
Speaker 1: So according to the BBC quote, he's accepted responsibility, said
Speaker 1: Manafort defense lawyer Kevin Downing, after Thursday's court appearance. He
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that his family was able to
Speaker 1: remain safe and live a good life. So it seems
Speaker 1: like what man of What was trying to do was
Speaker 1: making this plea deal so his family could keep some
Speaker 1: of their money so that his kids and wife don't
Speaker 1: die poor. I'm guessing it's more because he hopes he'll
Speaker 1: get out of prison in time and take it and
Speaker 1: take them take it from I don't think Paul Manafort
Speaker 1: gives a funk about another human being, except for maybe
Speaker 1: his Instagram mistress. Yeah, what a weird Achilles heel to have.
Speaker 1: Everybody's got one, that's true, and they always have violent
Speaker 1: Instagram presence yea, yeah, yeah, Well like King Leopold and
Speaker 1: that teenage prostitute that he loved. Yeah, she would. She
Speaker 1: had a great, compelling online presence, the best Instagram in
Speaker 1: nineteen o truly by far. I'd like to conclude by
Speaker 1: talking about the fact that Rick Gates, Paul Maniffort's aid
Speaker 1: and wingman for decades, completely rolled on him as soon
Speaker 1: as the FBI got involved, and roughly one hour of
Speaker 1: testimony on the fifth day of the Manifort trial, Gates
Speaker 1: admitted to faking expense reports to steal hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars from his boss, partly in order to fund
Speaker 1: a love nest in London for him and his mistress.
Speaker 1: Gates also admitted to helping Paul Manafort had millions of
Speaker 1: dollars in offshore bank accounts. Manafort's former accountant also testified
Speaker 1: against him and exchanged for immunity for her crimes and
Speaker 1: helping Paul hide tens of millions of dollars, and they've
Speaker 1: gotten gains. Just About the only person who hasn't completely
Speaker 1: written Paul Manafort off as a human being is Donald Trump. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a he's a loyal guy. He famously labeled his
Speaker 1: former campaign manager a brave man. I'm not really sure
Speaker 1: what he was referring to here in terms of bravery,
Speaker 1: mainly the fact that he had directly implicated Donald Trump
Speaker 1: at any crime. That's what I call courage. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a brave enough not to do. Yeah. The one thing
Speaker 1: that he could do in his whole life that would
Speaker 1: be helpful when I think of bravery, Number one is
Speaker 1: those young boys storming that beach at Ewigima, and and
Speaker 1: and number two is Paul Manafort. Not rolling on the
Speaker 1: only person who could exam. Yeah, I just there's nothing
Speaker 1: braver than when Paul Manafort doesn't snitch, you know, And
Speaker 1: normally I'm anti snitch, but in this case, this is
Speaker 1: a clear one must snitch snitch on financial crimes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: snitched carefully. So I do want to take this point
Speaker 1: now that we're closing to the end of our special
Speaker 1: little episode, I want to put together a little list
Speaker 1: that I should have added to the first two party
Speaker 1: we did on the matter, which is my best attempt
Speaker 1: to kind of create Paul Manafort kill count. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna get into that now. So, the Ferdinand Marcos regime,
Speaker 1: who Manifort backed and received tens of millions of dollars from,
Speaker 1: killed about three thousand, two hundred and fifty seven people.
Speaker 1: The Engolan Civil War, which Paul Manafort lincolned by as
Speaker 1: much as a decade by securing rebel leader Jonas of
Speaker 1: MBI arms from the US government, killed more than five
Speaker 1: thousand people in twenty seven years. The Maidan Revolution cost
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty people their lives. Manafort's own daughter's claim,
Speaker 1: based on the things he told them that he advised
Speaker 1: Dyukovitch to use deadly force to split up the protests.
Speaker 1: More than ten thousand people have died in the ongoing
Speaker 1: Ukrainian Civil War. Manafort also represented Mobutu says Seco, the
Speaker 1: dictator of the Congo. Well. He plundered the nation of
Speaker 1: virtually all its wealth. It's hard to pen an exact
Speaker 1: death toll on this one, but I think it's worth
Speaker 1: noting that Paul Manafort was part of the long proud
Speaker 1: Western tradition of sucking over the people of the Congo
Speaker 1: for a little bit of cash. Now we're not done
Speaker 1: with the dictators. Paul manaforts help. Yeah. So, Paul also
Speaker 1: worked with Sanni Abacha, dictator president of Nigeria from nine nine. Again,
Speaker 1: it's hard to pen an exact death toll on this one,
Speaker 1: but Sanny had at least dozens of dissidents executed and
Speaker 1: many more tortured. He also stole five billion dollars from
Speaker 1: the country, some of which wound up in Paul manafort
Speaker 1: slimy pockets. It's probably worth noting that the oil company
Speaker 1: Shell has also been accused of being implicated in some
Speaker 1: of the killings. Um, I know, wait, Shell Shell the
Speaker 1: logo I know, it makes me think of the ocean.
Speaker 1: I think a beautiful oil filled beaches. There's a big
Speaker 1: sign over Boston that the Shell sign. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I felt such loyalty to a gas company. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it really hurts. It really hurts. I gotta
Speaker 1: go and look at that sign and be like, I
Speaker 1: don't take any joy in you sign. You expect the
Speaker 1: ship from Chevron, Yeah, I mean, because they've got text
Speaker 1: in their logo grow that's that's horrifying. But a shell
Speaker 1: shell shell, Okay. I don't like. We don't always have
Speaker 1: great detail on the extent of Manafort's work with the
Speaker 1: individual monsters that he represented because he was committing international
Speaker 1: crimes and tried to hide his tracks, but he has
Speaker 1: also been high tied to work with the former dictator
Speaker 1: Bakiev and Paul. Manafort has also been tied to work
Speaker 1: with c Ed Bar, the former dictator of Somalia. The
Speaker 1: UN claims that Bar's regime had quote one of the
Speaker 1: worst human rights records in Africa. I found a fun
Speaker 1: Guardian article written about Rita Levinson, who worked for Paul
Speaker 1: on the Bar case. So she wrote of her old
Speaker 1: boss quote arrogant narcissistic, egotistical, brilliant, all of that. I
Speaker 1: can handle him, Paul, But it is Paul's mercenary attitude
Speaker 1: that puts us at odds. So basically, she told a
Speaker 1: story about when Bar's regime was collapsing in Somalia. This
Speaker 1: is like the last regime before Somali becomes a failed
Speaker 1: state essentially, so while it's falling apart, Paul Manafort sent
Speaker 1: her in a colleague over to Somali to try to
Speaker 1: get a million dollars out of the Bar regime as
Speaker 1: it was collapsing, just to twist the knife, just to
Speaker 1: try to get a little bit more money out of them.
Speaker 1: He was basically claiming like, I can get you some
Speaker 1: last minute aid and help if you if you throw
Speaker 1: some money our way. So it didn't work out, and
Speaker 1: they got very sick and almost died because the country
Speaker 1: was collapsing into a failed state. And she kind of
Speaker 1: got pissed at this because she realized afterwards that like
Speaker 1: he knew we might die, but it was like, well,
Speaker 1: if two people die, that's not that big a deal,
Speaker 1: and if we win, we get an extra million bucks.
Speaker 1: Like that was Paul Manifforts calculation. She was really pissed
Speaker 1: about this um and she said, and she was twenty
Speaker 1: five years old at the time, so like she was
Speaker 1: in a questionable industry, but also she was twenty five
Speaker 1: years old. They're like, who is who isn't doing that?
Speaker 1: When they're I was definitely in Somalia when I was
Speaker 1: twenty five. Yeah, different purposes, but but we were all there.
Speaker 1: We were all shooting down us helicopters, and we were
Speaker 1: all risking our lives for millionaires Somalia to some of us.
Speaker 1: This is a quote from Rita writing afterwards about the
Speaker 1: time Paul Manaford almost got her in a colleague murdered
Speaker 1: in Somalia. I realized now that to men like Manafort,
Speaker 1: the world really is one huge game of strtigo, and
Speaker 1: he plays to win. The consequences are secondary. He sent
Speaker 1: John and me on this wild goose chase, this utterly
Speaker 1: pointless mission, one that could have killed us both simply
Speaker 1: because he could. Which is I think, why Paul does
Speaker 1: everything that he's ever done. Yeah, and uh, experiencing the
Speaker 1: first consequence ever, A consequence at age sixty nine, A
Speaker 1: consequence at the age okay, yeah, well for him, though
Speaker 1: he's got a cast. He does, and his foot he
Speaker 1: can't wear a shoe. He can't. He's gonna get rolled around.
Speaker 1: He has got Instagram and his daughter's text Nice screwed man,
Speaker 1: Now we screwed. Paul Manafort is the one that we
Speaker 1: should feel sorry for. I think that he's really the
Speaker 1: victim and all of this. He's the great victim and
Speaker 1: Western civilization. Do we know what his daughters think about
Speaker 1: having their text league? Do they come? I think they've
Speaker 1: gone to ground a little bit. But there is a
Speaker 1: searchable database online now of all of the Manafort daughter texts.
Speaker 1: Can't wait to get some Netflix recommendations from there. I
Speaker 1: just started searching for individual words, and you find some
Speaker 1: fun stuff, but most of it was like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: search for fart or something and you just you get
Speaker 1: a lot of really fun conversations, but none of which
Speaker 1: was super relevant. Well a bonus to the bonus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Manafort girls talk farto persons show man. If we
Speaker 1: ever get looked at Madison Square Garden, that'll be the alright,
Speaker 1: Jamie president of Loft the stand to stand, Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: you gotta plug I got a little pluggy. You can
Speaker 1: listen to the Bectel Cast every Thursday, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you used to be able to follow me on social media.
Speaker 1: Now you kind of can't. Twitter is the real bastard here,
Speaker 1: Twitter is Jack Dorsey. When's that episode Jesus Christ? Find
Speaker 1: me on Instagram flexing on the gram at Jamie Christ
Speaker 1: Superstar and uh, if it's so disposes, you maybe yell
Speaker 1: at Twitter about banning Jamie Loftus when they don't ban
Speaker 1: white nationalists. You threaten to murder people, let them know
Speaker 1: what you were doing. It was pretty bad. I mean
Speaker 1: I did well. First I made silly videos about figure skating.
Speaker 1: That was bad. That was very bad. Next I posted
Speaker 1: a death threat made to me and got me banned.
Speaker 1: It's the same reporting, it is, basically doing it. And
Speaker 1: then you threatened to murder the fictitious Samboni brothers. I
Speaker 1: did say I was going to find the Zamboni brothers
Speaker 1: who killed them. But the Zamboni Brothers are cartoons. That's
Speaker 1: not They're my cartoons. They're literally my cartoons. And I
Speaker 1: but you know I did, and I'm a danger to society.
Speaker 1: I threatened them. Just because you create a fictional character
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can fake threatened to fake murder them.
Speaker 1: You're right, that's Twitter rule. I'm I'm fake. Sorry, I
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Speaker 1: Some of the money will get to me and I
Speaker 1: will use it to buy narcotics, an Ostrich jacket, and
Speaker 1: as I am waiting for this show to get big
Speaker 1: enough that I can have an ugly Ostrich jacket that
Speaker 1: is visually indistinguishable from a seventy dollar k Mark Jack.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the goal of this show to make you
Speaker 1: so wealthy that you yourself become a bastard. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: when it's canceled. Yeah. And then I will get a blimp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you get a blimp, and then we burn
Speaker 1: the blimp. Sorry, die on a blimp. There. If I
Speaker 1: learned one thing from twentieth century history, it's he who
Speaker 1: dies on a flaming blimp wins. I'm going to get
Speaker 1: a dirty does not dictators mug. I just decided, oh well,
Speaker 1: that's a great mug that you can buy on our
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