1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: You talked about Ariz though. It's the irony about jumping 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: on a plane to come do this podcast. And last 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: night Detroit Pistons getting the fight. Yeah, listen, how many 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: how many seven people got ejected when y'all played, It 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: would have been none of it would. 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Would everybody would have got thrown out. 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, he would have have been like, hey, sit down, 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 3: carm it down, relaxed the way it's supposed they never 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: No one got kicked there's no kicked out like people didn't. 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: Did you see what happened to pop it up? 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: I saw it right here. 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not it. 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: I saw the fight start and I saw you know, I. 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 4: Was reading, Uh it was not reading Ron Hollinsvino got involved. 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: It wasn't even a bad file. 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 4: It must have been something, Yeah, he said, because you 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 4: look like you said, I try to tell you. 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: Here we go. Yeah, you know. 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: How many how many people got kicked out of your back. 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: Of your day? Zero? 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: They would have just kicked rick out even if even 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: if it. 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: Would kicked kicked out. 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 4: Listen, when I go when I used to play against 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: Detroit and and it was I'm I'm a guy who 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 4: I don't speak to the other team. 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not. 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 4: I'm old school and really shaking hands before the game 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: and all that ship. We can talk afterwards, but you 30 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: got a job to do, winning and losing exactly. But 31 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 4: I always used to speak to Rick Mahon, who he. 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: Was smart smart. 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: And I still calls me and calls me doodo, uh 34 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: because I was a rookie and a rookie name and 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: and he was like, you're ship so. 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: Man, when you look at you too, exactly afraid when 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: you look at you like a game, when you play 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: the way he look at you. 39 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: Like, I'm off that one. 40 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: I don't even engage and you should ask Kevin McHale. So, 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: Kevin McHale, I don't know if I told this story before, 42 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: but you know, Kevin mchala come off his ankle operation 43 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 3: and uh, Rick gets in the game. 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: He said, what's up? 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: Game? 46 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: Hey man, welcome back? He said, what happened? He goes, 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: I got an ankle? He said, which one? He said 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: this one? 49 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: Rick? I like that ship? Hell yeah, I was like Rick. 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, I'm gonna kick that ship off game. Like, yo, man, 51 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: you so he nothing. 52 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: You can do? 53 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: I said, wow, like that thought process. Rick was like, 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't like them. He's a Celtic. 55 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: He's this mentality. He said. 56 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 4: You know, see, I ain't that bad. No, I'm just 57 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: I just came a little bit late. I probably should 58 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: have been in that era. 59 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: But I ain't that bad. You and Draymond, you enjoyed. 60 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: You enjoyed that. I love that kind of Wallace all 61 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: all of y'all throwback. 62 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: Listen, just talk about that locker room. 63 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 4: Isaiah Thomas, Dennis rob Man, Bill name beer. 64 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: Bill not as they say it was. 65 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Vinnie to Michael Wade Johnson. I just just talked 66 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 4: about that locker room. I mean, people don't I don't 67 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: know if y'all get enough credit. Maybe y'all do, but 68 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 4: y'all get in a credit for being the bad boys. 69 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: But just the talent on that team. Yeah, we're giving 70 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: out flowers today. 71 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: Mother fucker. Here they go. 72 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. This is uh I talked. We still like, 73 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: out of all my teammates, we have a bad Boys chat. 74 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: So it's that's dope. 75 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Rick, Bill Lambert, Isaiah Thomas, Vinnie Johnson, James Edwards, 76 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: and myself, Markael. 77 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: Guire, Michael Guire. 78 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: Yes, but it was a trip because I'm on this 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: side of the locker room and Joe was right across 80 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: from me. And one time they were having Joe said 81 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: to me it was I knew it was my last year. 82 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: Joe said to me, Hey, whatever happens in this meeting, 83 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: don't speak, don't say anything. So and I said, okay, man, 84 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: whatever they were talking about. I looked over at Joe 85 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: and Joe was like, and I'm shaken. 86 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: Right. It was like. 87 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: Quiet there going on and on and on. I was like, 88 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 3: you out of here. He said, I told you to 89 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 3: be quiet. It's a setup. It's a setup. You out 90 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: of know you. You might as well start thinking you're 91 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna be gone. And uh, Chuck Daily came 92 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: to me, God rest Daddy Rich. He said, hey, they're 93 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: gonna trade you the night of the draft. I'm gonna 94 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: try to work it out where you come to, where 95 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: you go to Miami. Billy Cunningham is gonna do me 96 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: a favor. Work it out. You're gonna go to Miami. Man, 97 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: this season was over. I was here in Miami looking 98 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: at houses in Cocoa Plug. I'm like, I'm ready to go. Man, 99 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: they don't they don't trade me. They wait until Hurricane 100 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: Andrew happened, remember that ship, And they traded me the 101 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: week after and and then I have to come down 102 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: here and in the middle, right after a hurricane. But 103 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: Joe was That's why Joe was working in the league. Now. 104 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: Joe was so like perfectly tempered. Vinnie Johnson was like, yo, 105 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: when I get in call my play. Vinnie was mic 106 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: awave in his second and uh, you know Rick and 107 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: Bill on this side, and you know Dennis was over there. 108 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: So they had the gods small forwards and centers like that, 109 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: and I was closest to the screen. I got fined 110 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: for going to sleep during videos, you know, but uh, 111 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 3: you know me, I don't. It was a great locker room. 112 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: I had veterans. So I have an idea and I'm 113 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: going to put it out on this show. I want 114 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: to be a consultant to teams that have young players. 115 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: They don't have vets, they don't have any they don't 116 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: have anything to rely on learned from. So when I 117 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: was in Puerto Rico, while I like Philip Wheeler so much, 118 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: he said, hey, what what do I need to work 119 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: on to get to the next level? And I'm looking 120 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: at this kid, and I said, well, you eat chicken 121 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 3: and rice every night. There's no vegetables and there's no nutrients, 122 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: there's no electro lights. Y'all get winded. So at the 123 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: end of practice, just do some seventeens jump rope. I'm 124 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: hitting him with that. He was like back, and I'm 125 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: bringing him electro lights in his water before the game, 126 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: and he's like good looking, you know, good looking o G. 127 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 3: So it was it was him asking. So then when 128 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: Elton Brand asked me, I said, yeah, this kid would 129 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: be great. And first thing Elton texts me after he 130 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: picked him up, he was like, yo, he looks like 131 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 3: he belongs And I said, because he does belong. Like 132 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 3: he literally asked and wanted to get to that point. 133 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: A lot of guys come in. I think why y'all 134 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: got in trouble with the whole pistol thing is he 135 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: had no vet. Adrian Dantley would not have allowed me. 136 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: Like Adrian Dantley used to hand me a book when 137 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: I go, what's this? You go read that tonight. Don't 138 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: go out? What you mean don't go out? Brother? My 139 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: Limo is waiting already halfway out to know that He 140 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: was like, staying, man, stay In's nothing really to do 141 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: in Cleveland. You can get in a lot of trouble. 142 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: Then we was in Oakland. He was like, do not 143 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: go out in Oakland. And I learned to read books. Man, 144 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: I learned to sit there. I read conversations of God, 145 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: cell esteem, prophecy for agreements. I'm telling them that now, 146 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: but conversations of God. 147 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: You know. 148 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: One time, oh, one time, we were someplace and I 149 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: don't know how, this girl is knocking on my door. 150 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: I was like, hey, you lost, little girl. Come in. 151 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: Let's call your papa, Let's call your mama. 152 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: If you know, you could ask the like. Some of 153 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: my teammates called me sense. So they was like, man, 154 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: you got incense burning. It was you know, instant, you know, yeah, 155 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: but I had, I had, I had what's that? What's 156 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: the stick called palasanto? And you know, I'm getting all 157 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: bad juju out of the room and I'm checking making 158 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: sure there's no cameras. I'm looking under it like I'm 159 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: a flight attendant. And and she goes, whats your room 160 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: smells like this? And what are these books? And I 161 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: was like, this is this? I'm reading this And then 162 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: she was like, oh my god, I said, let me 163 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: walk you. 164 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: Downstairss goddamn so because I read them. 165 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: But but the truth was I didn't. I didn't. She 166 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: got left out of whatever was happening, and so and 167 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: I was I and I was like, you can't be 168 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: in the hall. And then she said that and I said, 169 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: let me walk you downstairs. And when I walked downstairs, 170 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 3: the lady said, oh, how you doing, missus Sally, and 171 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: say this should not you? I said no, I'm just 172 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: walking her out, like this ain't me. And she was 173 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: like this like the third time you've been here all week. 174 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: And she was like, mind your business, bitch, and I 175 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: was like, oh, I'm so happy. 176 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: So the third time she's been there all week, all week. 177 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: And I would make it around when I tell the 178 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: young fellas, I go, hey, we're here for a reason, 179 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: not a season. We're here for a reason. This ain't 180 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: our place. We're here for a reason, not a season. 181 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: And I would say to all of these young cats 182 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: that were picking up strays, hey, bring your lunch. If 183 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: you fly your lunch with you or fly your like, 184 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: bring your lunch. You don't want any food poisoning. I'm 185 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: wording this properly. 186 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: That was very properly. Yeah, definitely. You know you don't 187 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 2: want you you don't want it to get spoiled. 188 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you need to keep it fresh, fresh, and you. 189 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: Know what you like. 190 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: Yes, to eat, do not try no new oysters. Yes, 191 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: and keep it keeping food. Yes, and keep it in 192 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: a plastic container. Yes, Yes, that exactly. 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