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Speaker 1: And I sent myself an article that I saw last

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Speaker 1: stories on this fu gazy, as the Italians like to say,

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Speaker 1: we will dive into that, one of my favorite shows

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Speaker 1: be exciting the Combine, which I've been the last couple

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Speaker 1: with this is I've thought about this for a while

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Speaker 1: over the last thirty forty years. Now, maybe there are

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Speaker 1: The NFL business is pretty insane right now. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: players have never been richer and they've never made more money.

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Speaker 1: Same thing goes for coaches. You know, Jerry Jones when

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Speaker 1: So up to see. But who else? What are they

429
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Speaker 1: gonna do? Go with Spencer Rattler? That seems pretty bold.

430
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Speaker 1: If I was a betting man, I guess you just

431
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: roll with Derek one more year. But who knows? The

432
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: NFL is crazy. I think the Eagles it's a tough job, man.

433
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: You know that. There's I know they've won obviously the

434
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl a couple of weeks ago, But it's just

435
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: one of those gigs where everyone's paying attention and it's

436
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: just a polarizing spot. And it's an intense spot, not

437
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: just because of the owner of the GM, but because

438
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: of the firepower you have, because of Jalen Like he's

439
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 1: just a polarizing player. You got you know, star wide receiver,

440
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: star tight end Saquon Barkley. It's just not an easy

441
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: spot to be, you know, especially when you're head coach

442
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: is an offensive guy, but he does not call the plays.

443
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: It just it's it's it can be good and bad. Right.

444
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: We saw in three years two guys became head coaches

445
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: and the other got fired and no one knows where

446
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: he's at. I would imagine Ryan Johnson's coaching somewhere. But

447
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: it just shows you how fast like two guys head coaches,

448
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: one guy fired and like no one's making him the

449
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Shows you how like this job goes. There's

450
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: no middle grounds, Like oh yuh, he's doing pretty good.

451
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: He's like just solid. He's the type guy we'd want.

452
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: It's like, no, this guy fucking blows and he might

453
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: not even be that bad, but everyone thinks that. Or

454
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: you're just like you're just gonna become a head coach.

455
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: So I don't obviously blame him for taking It wasn't

456
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Speaker 1: even a choice, Like you want the head coach, you

457
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Speaker 1: want the offensive coordinator job. Hell yeah, last story on football,

458
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: you know there was a meeting they had, like a

459
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Speaker 1: conference kind of get together convention of all the heavy

460
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: hitters in college football. I think this last couple of

461
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Speaker 1: days in New Orleans and clearly trying to figure out,

462
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 1: like how do we do better with the college football

463
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 1: playoff and the nil contract situation. Like, let's face it,

464
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: two things can be true. No one cares if these

465
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: kids get paid, Like, no one that matters, like just

466
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: pay the kids whatever, but nil this And I've seen

467
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: Dionce say this, like nil's bullshit, we need to stop

468
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: calling it nil. He's like, I see like three total

469
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: kids on commercials, right, this is just a salary. Like

470
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Speaker 1: I'm just giving you four hundred grand to be a

471
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. You're not on commercials. I'm not using your name,

472
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: image and likeness. I'm just paying you to play. But like,

473
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: for example, you me most people in a lot of industries.

474
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Speaker 1: I guess some of you listening aren't on quote unquote contracts.

475
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: You might be an apt Will employee, so you technically

476
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: get fired whenever. But for example, like I signed a

477
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Speaker 1: contract and we have parameters to the deal, and for

478
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Speaker 1: whatever reason, all the industries I've worked in post college

479
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: have been like that right, A one year deal, a

480
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: two year deal, three year deal, five year whatever, And

481
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: you can't just leave after you I couldn't just go

482
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Speaker 1: to the competition, right, I couldn't justa hey, they're offering

483
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Speaker 1: me five X. Maybe I could, but I have to

484
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,239
Speaker 1: go to court if they wanted to fight it. And

485
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: that's clearly not the way that's happening in college football.

486
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: Like I can just be like, yeah, I'll take your

487
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: six hundred grand and then I mean, I've heard of

488
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: stories from people around college football that a guy will

489
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: take the nil early in role and you know, so

490
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: for the spring, this will be a high school kid

491
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: and then be in the transfer portal at the end

492
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Speaker 1: of spring ball. Like this we got to fix somewhat,

493
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: Like you don't need to just stay forever. And if

494
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Speaker 1: your coach ever leaves to a better job or gets fired,

495
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: no problem with you being allowed to leave. But if

496
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: I give you eight hundred thousand dollars, I can't sign

497
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: you to a multi year contract. That's the way it

498
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: works in the NFL. So clearly they got a lot

499
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: of work to do in spring ball, which is important,

500
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, in college football because you wear pads and

501
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: especially for your younger players that have not played that

502
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: might become starters, like or even guys that are just

503
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: backups that are gonna be starters in the fall. Arch Manning,

504
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: this is an enormous spring. But Texas and USC and

505
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: I'm probably missing a bunch of other programs are not

506
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: having a spring uh spring game. Not because they don't

507
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: want to have a practice or a you know, simulated scrimmage,

508
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: because they don't want it to be on television for

509
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: you to watch and scout their players. Not because we're

510
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: gonna play you in the fall and I want to

511
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: know the strengths and weaknesses of the new right guard

512
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: or what what's the outside linebacker? What's he look like

513
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: coming off the edge? No, because I will poach that

514
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: guy and try to get him to go in the

515
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: transfer portal before the summer starts. So when that starts happening,

516
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: it's like we got we got fucking problems. And college

517
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: football for is awesome and the explosion and its importance,

518
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: and obviously it's the second biggest sport in America. It's

519
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,239
Speaker 1: just in a weird spot and it's just it just

520
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: doesn't feel healthy, even though financially it would say otherwise, Okay,

521
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's end with my fugazi gayzy Friday. I

522
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: was thinking about this because when I was a kid,

523
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: and I've talked about this for a long time, like

524
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: it was right in between the time of the Internet.

525
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: You know, computers were kind of hitting the scene, but

526
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: the Internet wasn't really strong, and then the Internet really

527
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: took off kind of righte my senior year in college

528
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: or senior year in high school, and then when I

529
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: went to college, but even when I was in like

530
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: online classes and stuff like that didn't really exist like

531
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: they would ten years later and definitely now. But I

532
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: remember like in high school writing papers and stuff that

533
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: were like incursive, right, instead of like I'm not a

534
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: great typer. Luckily my business, like I don't have to

535
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: type a lot in most of my notes that I

536
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: do for this business, I use on hand or just

537
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: like a note app on my phone. But looking back,

538
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: if you could have been forward thinking, everyone in my

539
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: high school classes, like in the majority of high school

540
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: classes should have been very singular focus toward technology. But

541
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: it was honestly kind of the opposite. And I was

542
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: listening to a podcast the other day, the all In

543
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: Podcasts and they're like, can you imagine how outdated? And

544
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: listen to some of you that have like junior high

545
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: kids and definitely high school kids, the just regular curriculum

546
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: is in school for what these kids are gonna do.

547
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 1: And normal people have been saying forever like shouldn't we

548
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: teach like financial literacy in starting in like junior high

549
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: and high school? Like why should we wait till college?

550
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: And then the answer is always, well, no, they kind

551
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: of want little worker beasts. They actually don't want you

552
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: to know that. And I think there's some truth to that.

553
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: But like with the explosion of artificial intelligence, which I

554
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: like most people in one way or another use all

555
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: the time, do we need to know what we used

556
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: to need to know when I can just type in

557
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: a question and immediately get the answer and listen. There

558
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: are some professions like becoming an architect building a bridge

559
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: where levels of math are geometry, calculus, Calculus one calculus

560
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: are going to be very important, right, No different than

561
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: being a doctor. There is a level of focused school

562
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: that you are going to need to go on to,

563
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: you know, repair my meniscus or if I you know,

564
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: break a clavicle or have a heart attack, you'd be

565
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: able to work on me, but most of us are

566
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: not going to do that. I remember my senior year

567
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: in high school there was a class called APR history.

568
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: The class was a fucking joke. Every single person got

569
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: an A. But in ap classes you would get like

570
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: an extra point, so it would be worth like, instead

571
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: of a four, I'd be worth a five, so it would,

572
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, boost your GPA. So my GPA when I

573
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: was applying to college, instead of being like a three

574
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: four with the extra AP class and I remember, boosted

575
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: up to like a three eight, I was really probably

576
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: more like a two to five student. And I just

577
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: look back, like, why one this class was stupid. I

578
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: don't need to know any of this stuff, and if

579
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: I did, I could just look it up. So one

580
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: thing we are going to have to figure out is

581
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: and listen, I probably have kids here pretty soon, or

582
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: at least attempt to. We'll see if little swimmers can swim.

583
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: But uh, we got to rethink all this and technology,

584
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: and the thing they were saying on the all In

585
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: podcast is like, and listen, these really smart people way

586
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: smarter than me and clearly are in different worlds and

587
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: use this AI way more than me like it is

588
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: going to wipe out and make a lot of the

589
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: stuff you learn in school pretty irrelevant, and I think

590
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: we got to embrace it and embrace it pretty fast.

591
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: So I've often thought and listen, education for me, you're

592
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: talking with a guy with multiple degrees, pretty irrelevant to

593
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: my life. And besides, like going to college and socializing

594
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: with people I do not know and trying to date

595
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: girls that I have no background with and didn't grow

596
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: up around, I learned little to nothing that I apply

597
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: lie to in my adult life. So I and that

598
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: that's college, let alone high school where I learned nothing.

599
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: Beside again, I'm not anti like learning to read, right,

600
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: there are a lot of studies coming out that almost

601
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: like half of eighth graders can't read at a basic level.

602
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: Like obviously that's a problem, right, I mean, there are

603
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: some basic fundamentals that you need to learn in your youth,

604
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: and we need to teach kids. But there is a

605
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: lot of complete waste. And I was on this early

606
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: because I remember sitting in class like fourteen sixteen, like

607
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: this is so stupid. But I couldn't get bad grades

608
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: because my dad probably would kicked my ass, So I

609
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: had to attempt to try in high school or hustle

610
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: and find a way to get with good groups and

611
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: group projects. But I remember thinking it was BS twenty

612
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: years ago. I can't even imagine now technology like if

613
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: you are, If everything isn't technologically based for most of

614
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,239
Speaker 1: these people, I think we're wasting our time. So you

615
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: talk about a fugeesi. If the ain't and let's face it,

616
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: a lot of these people they don't like to change,

617
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: We're gonna have problems coming down the pike. Okay, let's

618
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: dive into a little thing we like to call the

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Speaker 1: middle Cough mail bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram

620
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Speaker 1: firing those dms, Get on the show again mail bag,

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Speaker 1: just my name at John Middlecoff, firing those dms, get

622
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: your questions answered here. Let's start with Garrett question for

623
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Speaker 1: the bag. I'm a Cowboy fan that understands how much

624
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: of a disaster our team is right now. But I

625
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence in Dakota Prescott. It just

626
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: seems to me that even though we have problems, people

627
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: forget how good we can be when he's healthy. His

628
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: last full season, he was the runner up MVP to Lamar.

629
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Speaker 1: He had much better stats and we had twelve wins.

630
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Speaker 1: So my question is where do you rank Dak out

631
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Speaker 1: of all the quarterbacks in the NFL. He's the highest

632
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: paid quarterback, and even though he shouldn't be, he's paid

633
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: large for a reason. Yeah. I mean, I think the

634
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: problem for Dak Prescott is he had the three year

635
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: stretch with McCarthy where he was really good and I'm

636
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: pulling up his stats right now, and then he shit

637
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: the bed in the playoffs. I mean, those two Niner

638
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: games were pretty bad, and the Packer game wasn't great either.

639
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: So basically from twenty one to twenty three, he was

640
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: thirty seven and ten, twenty two, Actually he wasn't great

641
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Speaker 1: twenty three and five, but he got injured that year,

642
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Speaker 1: and then then he was thirty six and nine. So

643
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: like two of those three years twenty one, thirty seven

644
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: and ten and thirty six and nine, like that's a

645
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: really high level season, it really is, like that's that's

646
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: really good, and then they lose in the playoffs. So

647
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: I think the problem is he can have stretches. Remember

648
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: was it two years ago when did he beat Philly

649
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: at Philly the year that they won the division. I

650
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: think it's the playoffs just really leads. Leads leaves a

651
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: bad taste in people's mouths. And so it's like when

652
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: we talk about Dak, it's hard to talk about thirty

653
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: seven and nine or thirty six and ten or whatever

654
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: his great seasons under McCarthy, and it's more like what

655
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: happens in these big games when he looks like a

656
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: shell of himself and he turns the ball over a lot.

657
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: I mean to go in twenty twenty three, thirty six

658
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: and nine, and then it wasn't all his fault in

659
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: the Packer game, but the thirty seven and ten year,

660
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: I think he threw two picks, so he threw He's

661
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: thrown five interceptions in that three year stretch with McCarthy

662
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: making the playoffs. It's pretty bad, it really is. I

663
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: think when he's right, yeah, he's somewhere between six to

664
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: ten ish, he's good, and then he just turns into

665
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: a different player in the playoffs. Like that's not really

666
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: debatable at this point. Griffin, What up? Diehard? Trojan fan

667
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: fight on got into your podcast? Listen to you on

668
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: the Herd. I hear a lot of people asking the

669
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: question about Sam Darnold, and as someone who has always

670
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: supported him and the program enough. So where I get

671
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: Tommy Trojan tattooed on me? Wow? Where do you see

672
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: the trajectory of the program going up compared to other

673
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: powers in the sport, Oregon, Ohio State and other contenders?

674
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: One thing? Living in Arizona. Your lips just get destroyed here.

675
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,959
Speaker 1: Very dry, you know, very very dry. I would say

676
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: you guys are in a bad spot, no way around it.

677
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: When you bring up Ohio State and Oregon, they feel

678
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: like they're in a different universe than you guys, like

679
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: a different universe. I think the Trojan situation is not

680
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: good and not good at all, so I have little faith,

681
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I think one main issue

682
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: is in this new world that the Trojans find themselves in.

683
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 1: I mean, in their last two years eight and five

684
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: and seven and six, you were six and six this

685
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: year before the bowl game, I would not be very excited.

686
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: And Colin and I have talked about this. There is

687
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: an energy and an effort that Ryan Day, that Sark,

688
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: that Dan Lanning, that Kirby bring to recruiting. Saban brought this.

689
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: He was very serious about recruiting. I feel like Lincoln

690
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: was pretty serious about it at Oklahoma. But Oklahoma, like

691
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: when he took it over, it was kind of like

692
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: a you know, it's like a tesla drives itself and

693
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: he puts some effort in, but they were just recruiting

694
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: the league guys, no matter what. And then he goes

695
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: to USC like this program's in disarray. You kind of

696
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: got you gotta fucking grind, you gotta get in the mud.

697
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: Like when Pete Carroll took over USC, like it was bad.

698
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta take it to the next level. No,

699
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: you got to just get it rolling again. And I

700
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: just don't know if he knows how to do that.

701
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: So I'm not very confident. I'm really not that conference.

702
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: Oregon's rolling, Ohio State's a juggernaut. Michigan that's gonna be

703
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: their worst team in years moving forward. Penn State is loaded.

704
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: So at the high end of the conference, it's just

705
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: so good. Let me let me look up USC twenty

706
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: twenty five schedule. The hard part is, even if I

707
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: you know, give you like win win win, you guys

708
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: lost a lot of games that most people would have

709
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: said that this is such a joke. And I'm not

710
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: blaming USC, but to open up against Missouri State their

711
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: first two games, Missouri State in Georgia Southern. I mean,

712
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: give me a break. That is this is where college

713
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: football needs of someone to step in. Purdue, Michigan State

714
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: at Illinois, Michigan at Notre Dame, at Nebraska, Iowa, Oregon, UCLA.

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Speaker 1: I would say nine and three feels like a pretty

716
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Speaker 1: good year. A disgruntled Cowboy fan, My question is should

717
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys move off Parsons and stock up on draft

718
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: capital to strengthen to strengthen their weakness levels of personnel.

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Speaker 1: Would think you could get at least one one first

720
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: round pick and some later round pick. No, you would

721
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: get multiple first round picks. If you trade Micah Parsons,

722
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: the minimum you would get would be two ones in

723
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: a two. Anyone that doesn't want that, you hang up.

724
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: Michah Parsons nets you two ones in a two. How

725
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: old is MICHAEH. Parsons twenty five years old? Michael Parsons

726
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: is twenty five years old. He is one hundred percent.

727
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: I would say, uh, I mean thirteen sacks, thirteen sacks,

728
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: fourteen sacks, twelve sacks. I mean he's just an elite

729
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: pass rusher. He's just a really good player. I mean,

730
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: I think he's two ones in a two. I think

731
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Speaker 1: that's what you're getting. So you know, I wouldn't be

732
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: in the business of trading Micah Parsons like players. I mean,

733
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: the whole reason you draft is to land guys like him,

734
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: And looking back, you got pretty lucky that a guy

735
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: like him, because you know the COVID year he sat

736
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: out and and fell, you know, out of the top ten.

737
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: What was he eleventh pick? I think Michah Parsons was

738
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: the twelfth pick in the draft. And now it's like,

739
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: who's his comp? You know, a dual carter like his

740
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: comp is Micah Parsons. A lot of similarities Penn State eleven,

741
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: bend the edge, It's like, where's that dual carter gonna

742
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: go one? It's like number one overall. I think clearly

743
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: if you redid the Micah Parsons is a top two

744
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: or three draft pick if he's playing. And I know

745
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: he was like off the ball a little bit, but

746
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: still I would say if you trade Micah Parsons like

747
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: it's I wouldn't even entertain it. If it two ones

748
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: a two and a player would be like my minimum.

749
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: I think Zach Martin I just saw retired, So two ones,

750
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: A two and maybe a guard. Absolutely love the pod.

751
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: Have a question for the mail bag. Do you think

752
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: we'll ever see more crossovers between gms of different sports?

753
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: Am I thinking back to last year when the Commanders

754
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: hired Warriors GM Bob Myers to help lead their head

755
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: coaching search, and even back a few years ago Mickey

756
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: Loomis ran the Saints and the Hornets. Going off of

757
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: that question, how long do you think it would take

758
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: a good NBA GM to become a good NFLGM? Well,

759
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: Bob just helped you know one thing. A good at

760
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: an NBA, A good GM in general, they can evaluate people,

761
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: whether that's a player, whether that's a coach, whether that's

762
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: an executive, whether that's a scouting director. Like they're just

763
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: around those people all the time. So like Bob Myers,

764
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: he's a people guy. Bob Myers was an agent, right,

765
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: Bob Myers represented like Andre Gudala, you know, I mean

766
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: he was representing players, so he knows how to negotiate

767
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: and he knows people. Now, you do have to have

768
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: some idea of football players and football value, so it

769
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: would take a long time, Like there's not a player

770
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I would say every single starter, like

771
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman or John Lynch or Less Sneed or John

772
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: Spytech or Jason Light could tell you something about like

773
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: a lot about. So it's like you developed this war

774
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: chest of information that that would be really hard to accumulate.

775
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: The relationships with agents you could develop relatively quickly, but

776
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: the contracts are a lot different. Dealing with players are

777
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: a lot different. I actually don't think there are that

778
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: many similarities. My buddy Ethan Strauss, who runs one of

779
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: the best substacks and all the sports, sometimes I'll just

780
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: calin pick his brain. He's got good ideas and like

781
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: he's tied into the NBA world, and he knows a

782
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: bunch of gms, including Bob. He's like, all these gms

783
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: are miserable. It's not a fun job because basically the

784
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: role is just completely different. What like how much roster

785
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: do you really do in the NFL, Like you have

786
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: massive turnover a year to year massive, So it's I

787
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: would imagine baseball and basketball gms would have an easier

788
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: time than it would like if Bob Myers just became

789
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: the GM. Like if let's say Let's say Washington had

790
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: just hired Bob Myers, Like, I don't think he could

791
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: do the job. I think he could attempt to to

792
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: build around, but like a huge part of the job

793
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: is like setting boards. Now, you could argue he could

794
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: just hire the best quote unquote like scout and make

795
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: him his pro personnel department. But then that guy would

796
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: essentially be picking the players. You know. The one thing

797
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: with Howie is like how he not only watches tape,

798
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: like he just knows players pretty well. Like how how

799
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: could Bob not that Bob would even want to But

800
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: I think it would be difficult. Lifelong Steeler fan, at

801
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: this point, I know better than to expect Pittsburgh to

802
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: do anything exciting in the offseason. I've suggested blowing the

803
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: whole thing up and seeing what we get for what

804
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: Micah and Pickens. It's been a full three year since

805
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger retired and we still have done nothing to find

806
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: a long term answer at quarterback. With possibly both Wilson

807
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: Field's gone and some recent reports linking the Steelers as

808
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: a potential landing spot to Kirk Cousins, Daniel Jones or

809
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: forty one year old Aaron fucking Rogers, I added the

810
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: effort in there. Sorry, kids, it's just more of the

811
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: same Patrick Roster building year after year. Am I too extreme?

812
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: I don't think you are. Man, It's just I guess

813
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: you could catch lightning in a bottle on Rogers. Like

814
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: to me, Cousins makes no sense. He can't move. Cousins

815
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: can't move. I would not mess with Kirk Cousins. Rogers

816
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: in theory makes some sense. But like he does not

817
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: want to get hit, he wants no part of contact.

818
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't blame him. Tom Brady the last couple of

819
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: years didn't want to get sacked. They're in there, they're

820
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: super rich, they still feel and look good like you.

821
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: You don't want to take these huge hits from Michael Parsons.

822
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's you don't want Jalen Carter slamming you

823
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: into the ground. Totally get it. Well, when I think

824
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: the AFC North like, you get hit, and you get

825
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: hit pretty hard. So like the younger version of Rogers,

826
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. This version, I don't know. So

827
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: I think you're screwed. But I'm done saying like you know,

828
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think Tomlin and the Steelers should

829
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: just get a healthy divorce and start dating other people.

830
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: You get a new coach, Tomlin, you coach someone else.

831
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm done saying that because it's never gonna happen. So

832
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: it's like pointless exercise. And like you said, should they

833
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: do it? Yeah, are they going to? No chance they're

834
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: gonna keep doing the same thing like see nine games. Well, yeah,

835
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: we get it. You're you're a well run business. You

836
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: are never going to suck. No one thinks you are

837
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: ever gonna win. Be the Jacks, You're never gonna draft third. Overall,

838
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: we understand that, though, like you said, it'd be hell

839
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: if you did one year. I feel like I'm like

840
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: many other people. I love playing golf. Maybe go once

841
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: a week during the summer. I'm twenty three, gotta work.

842
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: I feel you, Doug, but hate watching it on television.

843
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: I'd love a weekly segment on good bets, bets you're

844
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: making to get me interested. Maybe a season long record

845
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: on how you've done predicting things. Try to include that

846
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: into the golfing. We try to include golf gambling. I

847
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: dabble a little bit on the Mexico Open this week

848
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: based on your personal experience and what you've heard through

849
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: your connections in the league. Can you give us a

850
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: bit more inside of what we normally hear that happens

851
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: behind the scenes in the offseason, particularly the draft, the combine,

852
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: free agency, etc. Second part, do you think there's any

853
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 1: reason why it seems somewhat often players leave their team

854
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: to join someone in the division. I'm sure every signing

855
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: has layers and reasonings, but just curious if you had

856
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: any thoughts on the first part. I think we'll dive

857
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: into that at each stop along. Try to kind of

858
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: look inside the combine, the draft, the free agency, try

859
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: to give, like, you know, the inner workings of how

860
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: these things work. I mean, there are a lot of

861
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: layers if you want me to like break down like

862
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: how teams meet and go over the board, set the board,

863
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: free agency, well kind of we'll discuss a little bit

864
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: of that next week probably And your second question, money,

865
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the almighty dollar. It has always

866
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: and probably will always unless we just go to digital

867
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: currency and it just becomes a bitcoin, which essentially be

868
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: the same thing. You know, people do things for more money.

869
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: That's why people leave jobs, that's why people move, It's

870
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: why people you know. I remember thinking when I was

871
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: looking to buy a house, and everyone's like, well, it's

872
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: just the interest rates are too high. You can't buy.

873
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: Is like, And I remember had a buddy that has

874
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: been in business a long time. He's like, John, things

875
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: always change. People die, people have kids, they need upgrade,

876
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: people change jobs. There are circumstances in humans' lives that

877
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: change no matter what. Just because you have a four

878
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: percent interest loan, I'm never leaving. Well, all of a sudden,

879
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: you have you have one kid, and then your next

880
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: kid is twins, and you like, we don't have a

881
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: big enough house. You don't have a choice, right, Or

882
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: maybe you or your wife get a job offer for

883
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: triple the money and you leave. So all of a sudden,

884
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: it's like we're never moving. All of a sudden that

885
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: house is on the market. So I think things change

886
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: really quickly when more money is involved. Now, sometimes you

887
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: make a decision not based on money, and sometimes you

888
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: make a decision based on your family where you're comfortable.

889
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: But in an NFL free agency, the only reason to

890
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: leave a team if you like your spot is because

891
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: that other team is offering you wait more money. And

892
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: in football, where your career can end literally any moment,

893
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: it's really really hard to not take the most money possible,

894
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: So I think that's why it happens. A question for

895
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: the mailbag. You mentioned recently you were somewhat neighbors with

896
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: Dontrell Willis. Was an existing connection through the sports business

897
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: or did you one day see him around? Definitely a

898
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: cool story. He likes something one time on Instagram, probably

899
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: like a year ago, maybe something me in Colin did.

900
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: Then I followed him, he followed me. We DM back

901
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: and forth. And a mutual buddy that is a member

902
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: at the country club where Dontrell is that works out

903
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: at the gym that I go to, Jeff, who's listened

904
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: to the podcast. I actually haven't talked to Jeff in

905
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: a little while. Is He's good buddies with him, and

906
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: I told him, like, I want to play golf with him.

907
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: He gave him his number and I hit him up.

908
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him. I haven't texted him in

909
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: a while. I need to do that. I think Dontrell's

910
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: daughter plays soccer at Colorado Shocker. He's got good genetics athlete.

911
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, I gotta try to make that happen here.

912
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: Maybe after the wedding play some golf on camera with him.

913
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: I think he's a pretty good player. It's crazy. I mean,

914
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: there are just a lot of athletes that live in

915
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: my general area. I mean it's Scottsdale in general, but

916
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: a lot of them, you know, baseball players and hockey players,

917
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: a lot of them here. A lot of them here,

918
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: baseball players because so many come for spring training, right

919
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: if you play, I mean half the league comes here

920
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: for spring training, and a lot of them buy houses

921
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: here and when they retire they just live here. And

922
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: obviously golfers as well. It's kind of a hub. It's

923
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: kind of why. You know. One of the reasons, you know,

924
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: that inspired me to move here is there was like

925
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: from the business I'm in, there was like this energy.

926
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: I remember coming here like five years ago, and I

927
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: mean I didn't know anybody, but you could just kind

928
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: of feel it. And then you start kind of doing

929
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: the research and following different people on Instagram, like there's

930
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: a lot of shit going on. It's like Silicon Valley

931
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: for athletes and sports and obviously golf bigger reason. I

932
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 1: picked up my shit and I came here. Loved every

933
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: minute it was that a couple of summer days when

934
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: it's a little hot. What are your expectations for the

935
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: new England Patriots. I have a lot of respect for

936
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: bra Bull as a coach, and I thought May showed

937
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: a lot of potential in his first year. I think

938
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: they could be a playoff playoff competitors right away because

939
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: of the coach and quarterback. Do you agree or you

940
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: think nine to ten wins is too ambitious? Well? Whatever

941
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: would they win this year? Where they drafting third or fourth? Fifth?

942
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean fourth? Maybe? Obviously your season last year was

943
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: a joke. I mean it was probably most unwatchable team

944
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You had moments when Drake May was

945
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: playing pretty well, but I would say that Jacoby Brissett

946
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: time when he was playing unwatchable and there were games

947
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: Drake May was like this, this is bad. So I

948
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: just if I just go. I believe in Verrabel. I

949
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: think you can be really competitive next year. Eight to

950
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: ten wins not unrealistic. Now, who is on the team right, Like,

951
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: what's your offensive line? Who are your skill guys? Does

952
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: the defense dramatically improve? Who do you draft? I mean,

953
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: let's face it, these next couple of months are pretty

954
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: big for the Patriots. You were gonna have I don't know,

955
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: six seven. I would imagine like impact guys and definitely

956
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: guys you pay some money, guys you draft high. Who

957
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: are they? Then I think we can have a better

958
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: idea of like, Okay, this team could get to nine wins,

959
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: but right now we're just going nine wins. We got

960
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: to know who clues on the team. We're just betting

961
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: on Vrabel and Josh McDaniels. I recently had an argument

962
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: with my friends about Jalen. They don't understand what makes

963
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: them a good quarterback, and they'll point to other quarterbacks

964
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: who have better stats and so forth. After being in

965
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: scouting for a bit, do you think that the average

966
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: fan doesn't really know what quote unquote talent is at quarterback?

967
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: What would you define this talent? That's a good question,

968
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: you know. I think a lot of times talent is

969
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: not like how many touchdown passes do you throw? It's

970
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: more like, well, how big are you? How strong are you?

971
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: How fast are you? How strong is your arm? Right? Like,

972
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has a has a insane amount of talent, right,

973
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has an insane amount of talent RG three

974
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: before his leg snapped or whatever. Crazy amount of talent.

975
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: Michael Vick insane amount of talent. I think Jalen is

976
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: talented because he's a really good athlete. He throws a

977
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: good deep ball, but he doesn't have a great arm.

978
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's weird. He's a good runner, but he's

979
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: not like a you know, like a twitchy fast you know,

980
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: Lamar and Kyler are much more explosive. There's like they're

981
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: changing direct you know. Jalen's just a smooth runner. I

982
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: would say he's he's a talented player. Obviously you're in

983
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: the NFL, but like he was a second round player

984
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: for a reason, right, I mean, I wouldn't say he

985
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: has elite immense talent relative to the elite guys. Right,

986
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: mahomes very crazy arm, excellent thrower on the run, right

987
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: can make crazy throws at every level over the middle, outside, Like,

988
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: Jalen's a great deep ball thrower, but he's not great

989
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: over the middle. He's accurate. One talent that he has

990
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: that is like I don't know if it's all God given,

991
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: but he clearly works at it in the weight room.

992
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: Like that strength that he possesses is pretty special. A

993
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: long time listener cannot stress how big of a fan.

994
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: I am of you. I usually agree with ninety percent

995
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: of the things you say. However, Aaron Rodgers to Amazon

996
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,959
Speaker 1: as a play by play guy is your worst take

997
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: by far. Herbstreet is the best play by play guy

998
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: in the world at the moment. He does the biggest

999
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: college game every week, and he does an NFL game

1000
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: that is twenty million viewers each week. He's smart, he's professionabal,

1001
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: he's likable, and advertisers love him. Economically speaking, it would

1002
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: be suicide to hire Rogers. He attacked Big Pharma, who's

1003
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: let let's be real runs the world. I don't think

1004
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: we have to be real. I mean add a lot

1005
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: of fucking juice. One of the only countries that let

1006
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: him advertise on television, and they make a shitload of money.

1007
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: Advertisers would not run to Amazon to back a product

1008
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: run by Rogers. He's extremely controversial. Nobody knows what is

1009
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: going to come out of his mouth. Aaron Rodgers, while

1010
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: not great, is still a top twenty quarterback in the world.

1011
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: He would be an upgrade for a bunch of teams.

1012
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Okay, let's hit each one. Herbstreet is

1013
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: not the best play by play guy in the world.

1014
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: He is the best college guy. Totally agree with you.

1015
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: Professionaal likable, great for advertisers, but like he's not great

1016
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: on the NFL and twenty million people like you or

1017
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: I could call the Amazon game this notion that like

1018
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: Tom Brady obviously's really famous. It's you know, he's the

1019
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: most famous guy. Probably do you ever call football games

1020
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: when you factor in, like Michael Jordan ever called games

1021
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods as a new broadcast. I think they tried

1022
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: Joe Montana back in the day and it failed. But

1023
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: if Tom Brady did not exist, even if it wasn't

1024
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen, let's just say they threw Mark Sanchez on

1025
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: Eagles Cowboys, it wouldn't change the viewership at all. I

1026
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: feel pretty strongly about that. Maybe it helps on some

1027
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: random games, but all the playoff games doesn't change it

1028
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: one iota. I think that now Tom's impact for business

1029
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: advertisers totally agree. But like from an NFL standpoint, I

1030
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: think Collinsworth is better. Troygman's definitely better. They're just better

1031
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: at the NFL, and that's no. I like Kirkharbstreet Collins College.

1032
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't really love them calling the NFL. Aaron Rodgers

1033
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: just played for Woody Johnson. Johnson and Johnson, Now I

1034
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: get it. It's different, right, Woody Johnson's not an advertiser.

1035
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: He's trying to get him to win games. I honestly

1036
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: don't think it really matters. Amazon's in the business. You're

1037
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: looking at it like from a broadcast television standpoint. Amazon's

1038
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: in the business of getting you to sign up for

1039
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime and you to spend money on what I

1040
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: would say is the most impressive website in the history

1041
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: of America. I can press a button and have everything

1042
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: from a fucking razor to a vacuum cleaner to you

1043
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: name it delivered to my house within potentially five hours

1044
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: to twenty four hours. It is incredible how dominant they are.

1045
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: I one, I haven't liked going to the store in

1046
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: a decade. Now, why would you go to the store

1047
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: beside getting a couple things you do not need to

1048
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: They have dominated because of their efficiency. That is the

1049
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: business there in And I would say this about Aaron

1050
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: like he does. He's just he's an easy listen, now,

1051
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you. He could say some off the wall shit,

1052
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: but like this is entertainment and Amazon is not dependent

1053
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: on Pfizer advertising on a streaming service. They are dependent

1054
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: on John Middlecoff and you and Bill and James and

1055
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: Craig and Julie buying things on that thing constantly. So

1056
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: I think it's less. I would agree on Fox. Yeah,

1057
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: it could be a problem if he said something and

1058
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: they an advertiser left, it would not be good. That's

1059
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: not really the business amazons in, are you gonna stop

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Speaker 1: using Amazon? What are you gonna do? You want to

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Speaker 1: walk your ass target and go sit in fucking line

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Speaker 1: with seven million people in that thing on a Tuesday afternoon. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna press the button to have it delivered to

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Speaker 1: my the front of my house as I eat a sandwich.

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Speaker 1: But I hear you, and I'm maybe he wouldn't be good.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's but like I said, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it necessarily matters because I don't think Tom Brady's any good.

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Speaker 1: The same amount of people watch Okay, a couple more questions,

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Speaker 1: diehard Green Bay Packer fan, and I wanted to know

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Speaker 1: your thoughts. Honestly, I want more controversial people on television.

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Speaker 1: I want more people like sometimes you watch these games

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Speaker 1: and this is why, like Akman, like you know, Gruden

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Speaker 1: was like this bad, and they'll just say some romo.

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Speaker 1: I just appreciate every once in a while saying some

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Speaker 1: off the wall shit like I'm trying to be entertained.

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Speaker 1: Some of these guys say nothing. It's like, I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you how many texts I get from buddies in

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Speaker 1: the NFL scouting buddies that are around like watching games,

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Speaker 1: like this guy doesn't even know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 1: It's awful. It's just bad. And I don't mean just

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Speaker 1: controversial to say something off the wall, to say something

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Speaker 1: off the wall, but have some balls, like have some

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Speaker 1: fucking stones to say like that was awful. And Aikman's

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Speaker 1: one of the rare guys who will be critical of

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01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: things that happened that we're all watching and things everyone

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01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: else it's like a love fest. I mean, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: you couldn't pay Tom Brady to be really critical, and

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Speaker 1: I know he's not really allowed to, but even if

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Speaker 1: he was, I don't think he would be. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of what the consumer wants. And at least Rogers potentially

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Speaker 1: might say some crazy things about like eh, that was stupid.

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Speaker 1: He might rip some coaches That's all I want. You

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Speaker 1: don't even need to rip the players, like guys fumble guys,

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01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: throw a pick? Can you rip some coaches because we're

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01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: all doing it some business we're in all the fans.

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Speaker 1: None of these guys do it. It's like, ah, I

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01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: love the offensive coordinator. I've known him for decades. A

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01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: great guy. Yeah, terrible play caller again, probably not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: So mood point uh, Packer fan, honestly done. Wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Packer fans, you guys, You guys are living pretty good.

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01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: Your team's good. Your wide receiver room yeah, drives you

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01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: little nuts. Still really talented. I know we got an

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01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: ACL injury and a concussion problem. You guys will be fine.

1104
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: Like your problems compared to the Steeler problems, like two

1105
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: historic franchises both consistently win. You guys feel like you

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01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: are much closer to competing for Super Bowls than they are.

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Speaker 1: So you ey are gonna be okay. I promise Packer

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01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: fans you're gonna be okay. If the Packers were a stock,

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Speaker 1: I think technically they are the way they're invested in

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Speaker 1: with the fans, but you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: if I could buy them on the Nasdaq or the

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Speaker 1: S and P. I would purchase Packer stock. They would

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Speaker 1: actually have been one of the more lucrative stocks the

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Speaker 1: last like thirty years. Every year it kind of works, Okay,

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Speaker 1: last question. The earliest I can remember listening to the

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Speaker 1: show was when I was a sophomore at UGA in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. I appreciate it. Uh, I'm a huge Falcons fan.

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01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: If you're obviously from Georgia, go dogs. It drives me

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Speaker 1: absolutely that they seem to refuse to build the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: even though that's been a glaring problem for my entire life.

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01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: I was wondering why you think teams refuse to build

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Speaker 1: from the lines out and what do you think their

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Speaker 1: main issue is. It doesn't seem like Blank is some

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Speaker 1: crazy medaling owner or an idiot, and I can't figure

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Speaker 1: out why they can't figure it out. Also, I understand

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Speaker 1: their dogshit franchise in general, but recently they've been pretty

1127
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Speaker 1: close to making the playoffs, but they keep putting themselves

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Speaker 1: in cap hel hiring mediocre coaches and old players. They

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Speaker 1: went through that stretch. I think last year with the

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Speaker 1: Pennix Cousins thing is one of the more head scratching

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Speaker 1: moves in recent memory, and to me it just shows

1132
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Speaker 1: how from an organizational standpoint, no one's on the same page.

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Speaker 1: Like one of the big advantages the Super Bowl teams,

1134
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Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Chiefs have is like and listen

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Speaker 1: and even how he defended Sirianni, He's like, I work

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Speaker 1: really close to this guy for the last four years.

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Speaker 1: Like that, there is a pretty strategic Jeff Larry Howie

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Speaker 1: whoever the coach is like philosophical belief, Andy Reid veach

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Speaker 1: hand in hand. The Ravens, Harbaud, DaCosta, Ozzy whoever like

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Speaker 1: big time like one vision, but the Buffalo Kyle Shanahan

1141
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: and John lynch worked really close less need Sean McVay

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01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: feels like, is there any cohesion the Cousins. Michael Pennock's

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Speaker 1: thing was laughable. Now, thank god they drafted Like I

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01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: was never against drafting Pennix, but they never should have

1145
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: signed Cousins. They should have used that money to sign

1146
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Speaker 1: a couple defensive alignment. Christian Wilkins. I know he got hurt,

1147
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: but like that would have been a guy to sign.

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Speaker 1: So I think it just gets back to listen, you

1149
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: can't convince me, and I understand guys can still be

1150
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: sharp of a as attack like in their eighties and nineties.

1151
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: You know, the Charlie Mungers, Warren Buffetts, most human beings

1152
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: like You're just not gonna be the same. And you

1153
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: can't convince me that the owner's age, the amount of

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Speaker 1: money they've made that it just doesn't feel like their

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Speaker 1: standard is quite as high. I mean, the guy put

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Speaker 1: himself in the Falcons Hall of Fame last year. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a pretty embarrassing moment, especially in

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: a season where you just pay a quarterback off an

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Speaker 1: Achilles one hundred million, you got to bench him by

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Speaker 1: the end of the season. I would just I would

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Speaker 1: sell stock in the Atlanta Falcons. I bet against it

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01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: from the jump last year. Now I picked the Saints

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Speaker 1: instead of the Bucks. But my whole point was everyone

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Speaker 1: is picking this team. How in what world? The other

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Speaker 1: thing is? Like being a good defensive coordinator when Sean

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Speaker 1: mcvay's your head coach does not mean that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good head coach. Brandon Staley, Raheem Morris, it

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Speaker 1: does not mean that you're gonna be a good head coach.

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Speaker 1: Now Raheem seems infinitely more likable down to earth than

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Speaker 1: a normal human than Brandon Staley. So if I had

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Speaker 1: to pick one of the two, I would take Raheem Morrise.

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Speaker 1: But like when you work for Sean McVay, they draft well,

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01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: they have good players, and there's just a well run operation.

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01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: So it's like that doesn't just equate to you kicking

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01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: ass and taking names when you leave them. It's really difficult.

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Speaker 1: So I guess it's a long winded way of saying

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer here, but I

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Speaker 1: would not be very bullish on your guys operation. Have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend and enjoy yourself. Just have a smile,

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Speaker 1: have a few cocktails, maybe you're not drinking, get a

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01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: good workout in, go for a walk, enjoy your loved ones.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you soon. Peace. The Volume