Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty three,
Speaker 1: Episode five of Dirt Daylight Guy Yeah, production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. And it is Friday, April fourteenth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Mm hm, guess what it's National Reach
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Speaker 1: looks like a milar balloon star from the sky. Okay,
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Speaker 1: there's so many, there's too many deeps right now anyway,
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Speaker 1: high as you can day. Yeah, exactly, And hey, if
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Speaker 1: shouldn't you failed to just take the RAYJ route and
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Speaker 1: a whole verse, but it's a little it's a little slow,
Speaker 1: a little out of my range, but it was beautiful work.
Speaker 1: A Fighter of the Night Man on the Discord, shout
Speaker 1: out to you, and I'm thrilled to be joined as
Speaker 1: always by my co host mister Miles Grab. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try and improvise a song right now and just bear
Speaker 1: with me. But um, blood drops on roses and Hitler
Speaker 1: stashes on kittens, bright copper kettles and SS mittens, brown
Speaker 1: paper uniforms like the gesh Stoppo. These are a few
Speaker 1: of Harlan's favor and things. Okay, you know, I tried,
Speaker 1: I tried. I was thinking about that earlier and I
Speaker 1: couldn't improvise it. But you know what, I forgot to
Speaker 1: actually attribute yesterday's me and Missus Missus Jones aka. That
Speaker 1: was from l on the Discord. I respect erqu because
Speaker 1: my mom was a real big plot role fan and
Speaker 1: for the longest time, that was like the only thing
Speaker 1: on on the TV. I'm gonna take classes to learn
Speaker 1: how to say that. Just hey phrase, hey Hercule, that
Speaker 1: many Hercule, Hey Poirot, hey poy rot. All right, well, Miles,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third ye
Speaker 1: one of our faves anti racism educator, activist, writer, creator
Speaker 1: of the acclaimed podcast White Homework. It's Tory Williams Doug
Speaker 1: all right to be here, always good to have you.
Speaker 1: And you had a child, yeah, And I was just
Speaker 1: asking you out before. I'm like, how when to self
Speaker 1: let baby self soothe? Because I'm I'm look, zike yang lit.
Speaker 1: Y'all know, we're trying to sleep train. We got eleven
Speaker 1: hours the night before and we're like, oh shit, we're
Speaker 1: doing it. Then we went back to about look and
Speaker 1: people are gonna be like, hey, asshole the fact because
Speaker 1: I said, and then he only died seven hours and
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes other night. I know that is good and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to ye. But then a lot of these
Speaker 1: books are like, you gotta let him cry. That's the
Speaker 1: only way they're gonna self sue it through the night.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't really do that I'm going to learn
Speaker 1: about the cold realities of life. Yeah, I mean he's black,
Speaker 1: Japanese and Jewish. He's already have a fucked up life,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Feel like I'm trying to
Speaker 1: just make at least this part easy. Yeah, I'm always concerned.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, let's spoil him. No, he already did
Speaker 1: his time. It's in the ancestors, got him, got him
Speaker 1: covered it. Yeah, right, like, don't don't, don't worry about
Speaker 1: that shit. Yeah, my kids are amazing sleepers. I did
Speaker 1: not do cry it out and they woke up about
Speaker 1: every two hours right forever for like years. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had a we had a lot of we had
Speaker 1: a lot of sleep struggles and they are incredible sleepers now.
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, okay, there's there's that anecdote. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean act, but yeah, Jack you
Speaker 1: we I mean, I forget, Like my wife will be like,
Speaker 1: you remember how how bad it was right now with
Speaker 1: our seconds, and I'm like, I don't remember much of
Speaker 1: the I'll go back and look at videos that I
Speaker 1: took of me like playing with them and just have
Speaker 1: no recollection. It was like the the sleep deprivation. Oh
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think the second I don't think
Speaker 1: we learned enough from the first one for the second
Speaker 1: one to be smooth sailing. So I don't. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: listen to anything that I But also it was also
Speaker 1: different different. You also have that like evolutionary neuralizer thing
Speaker 1: where it's like you forgot all the bad ship to
Speaker 1: keep mine was effect right, right, right? I mean I remember,
Speaker 1: I mean I remember your second was born when this show,
Speaker 1: when we were doing this show. Yeah, and I could definitely,
Speaker 1: I remember. We could chart the levels of tired, not
Speaker 1: first for sure, you would like, but missing words, missing
Speaker 1: entire sentences. This is like your This is like your
Speaker 1: baby demon child, right, who like comes and pounds on
Speaker 1: your door just like that, and monsters. He's such a
Speaker 1: sweet kid and so wonderful during waking hours, but he
Speaker 1: has bush sleep time and then but he he just
Speaker 1: wants to be cuddled. Where he's at an age where
Speaker 1: it's like we're like, he can't be sleeping in our
Speaker 1: bed every night, and so we just trained that out
Speaker 1: of him. But you know, sometimes I'll lay next to
Speaker 1: them to let him get to sleep, and he will
Speaker 1: put his foot on me like a burglar alone, Like
Speaker 1: he can if I start moving. He was like yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like where are you going? Yeah, so yeah, and
Speaker 1: then he will wake up the older one. But the
Speaker 1: older one is a great sleeper at this point, he's
Speaker 1: just been through the ship right with the younger one
Speaker 1: that now he's just like immune to it. It's like
Speaker 1: a or a fire alarm beep. That's just you know,
Speaker 1: completely block it out. You block it out. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's real. I have not though, But he's doing great.
Speaker 1: He's doing great, and it's it gets in my experience,
Speaker 1: it just gets better and better parenting, and maybe not
Speaker 1: when they're teenagers, but it really just gets more and
Speaker 1: more fun ye experience. So yeah, yeah, I mean now
Speaker 1: that I'm even getting like smiles, that I can connect
Speaker 1: to something, I like, it's a whole new day. I
Speaker 1: fucking wrapped the first maybe five tracks of the Clips
Speaker 1: album Lord Willing to him yesterday when I was making food.
Speaker 1: I just put him in the chair and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: as if what he said, he's a fan of your rapping,
Speaker 1: he loves rapping, he loves that, he loves I think
Speaker 1: it's just like I'm a very facially expressive person, so
Speaker 1: that just it doesn't matter what I'm saying. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: did you hear me kill that whole big pun verse
Speaker 1: in Twins? I was like, did you know how hardest
Speaker 1: to go dead in the middle of little literally little?
Speaker 1: Did we know that? We rid us a little and
Speaker 1: he's like, it's oh shit. He falls out the high chair,
Speaker 1: Oh shit, puts his hand on her Majesty's shoulders. He's like,
Speaker 1: real fucking hip hop over here. Amazing. All right, well, Tory,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners some
Speaker 1: of the important things we're talking about. Big news. Newpier
Speaker 1: for assholes just dropped, ultra right, ultra right. Dear, the
Speaker 1: the commercial has been making the rounds. It's like the
Speaker 1: Dollar Shave Club, but racism. Yeah, it seems to be
Speaker 1: the what he was going for. Tim Scott is running
Speaker 1: for president. Oh Tim, I've put together the few the
Speaker 1: few details I can glean about that, the latest Harlan
Speaker 1: Crow defense, the Atlantic article by the Harvard gred These
Speaker 1: are the few details I can glean without subscribing to
Speaker 1: the Atlantic. So we'll talk about that all of that
Speaker 1: plenty more. But first, Tory, we like to task our guests,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Let's see, So
Speaker 1: I have been like on this terror on Instagram in
Speaker 1: the past week or so talking about poverty and like
Speaker 1: the impacts of poverty. So I've been doing all this
Speaker 1: Google searching slash pub med situation about impacts of poverty
Speaker 1: on like your nervous system and your ability to self regulate,
Speaker 1: because it's not good. And I keep hearing people say
Speaker 1: and like, obviously this is just like right wing talking points.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh God, like like if they were just
Speaker 1: stop being so fucking stupid and reckless and like irrational,
Speaker 1: then they wouldn't be poor. And it's like they're right
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. It's like, no, that's how they're acting because
Speaker 1: they're in poverty. Like your nervous system doesn't cope well
Speaker 1: with constant ongoing stress trying to figure out like do
Speaker 1: I buy bus fare home or do I buy lunch?
Speaker 1: Like or is this the day I get shot and killed?
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. A stat like that, especially with black and
Speaker 1: brown communities, like the number of people who like actually
Speaker 1: fear for their life ending in gun violence, like on
Speaker 1: a daily basis is an obscenely high number compared to
Speaker 1: like white people in America. Yeah, and he's like, try
Speaker 1: living with that on your fucking mind. Yeah, yeah, absolutely
Speaker 1: so change I think. I don't know, but we even
Speaker 1: saw it, right, Like even with like Rick Scott, who's
Speaker 1: like a center, He's like, my friend died in the
Speaker 1: Louisville bank shooting. Oh my god, Yeah, I have nothing
Speaker 1: to say about gun control, and it's like, what for what?
Speaker 1: Why did you even bring that up? He wants people
Speaker 1: to feel sad. I know we were talking about that
Speaker 1: on the trending episode. We're like, oh, what kind of
Speaker 1: weird points do you think you score by being by
Speaker 1: saying like I have a personal connection to this and
Speaker 1: that's why I will still do fuck all about the situation.
Speaker 1: That's how much I love the Second Amendment. I think
Speaker 1: is the oh my god, right, like I don't know
Speaker 1: the real list of them all. I'm the realist patriot
Speaker 1: of them all. My friend just got murked. I'm still
Speaker 1: good up here? Did you hear that? In all right?
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? Okay? Yeah? Still make them out
Speaker 1: to Senator Rick Scott for reelection campaign. Thank you. That's right,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? Tory? I think
Speaker 1: policing people's joy is really overrated. I think that, yeah,
Speaker 1: try trying to get people to be some sort of
Speaker 1: a way about the things that they enjoy, things that
Speaker 1: don't hurt other people and like don't cause harm to
Speaker 1: the community. I'm just like, why I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: get it. I love saying like I love seeing like
Speaker 1: kids after school, like messing around with each other. Is
Speaker 1: they're like walking home, Like I just love seeing people
Speaker 1: have fun and like, you know, we're walking past the
Speaker 1: park and there's like all of these elders hanging out
Speaker 1: and like they're playing cards or whatever. Like I love
Speaker 1: that shit. And it's really interesting to me how many
Speaker 1: people get upset seeing, especially people of color, experiencing any
Speaker 1: kind of joy at all. Like it's just it's just
Speaker 1: like emotionally upsetting to a lot of white people that specifically.
Speaker 1: But then it's like it's the same thing with like
Speaker 1: gender expression, right, It's like, well you have to eat,
Speaker 1: just like there's two there's two genders, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: but who fucking cares? Like who cares? Why? Like why
Speaker 1: is this taking up more emotional energy? Right, how do
Speaker 1: you feel well, like I'm I'm this or that? Okay?
Speaker 1: Do you right? Exactly exactly? Like why are you putting
Speaker 1: it on everybody else to be like like just you're
Speaker 1: stressing yourself out for no reason by trying to like
Speaker 1: make little kids look like you have to look like
Speaker 1: a boy or you have to look like a girl.
Speaker 1: There's like no one between mean, like why would you
Speaker 1: why are you expending emotional energy on that ship? Like
Speaker 1: just go live your life. When I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I thought I was a fucking spider, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like just let let kids fucking like do them?
Speaker 1: Do you just fucking do you? That's it's a very
Speaker 1: hard thing. I wish I wish that was in the Bible.
Speaker 1: I know Jesus, I mean, they would probably find a
Speaker 1: way to be Like I think he said, do you
Speaker 1: like to groom children? Is what he was trying to
Speaker 1: That was a sent that Jesus was trying to actually
Speaker 1: finish because I know, like it please just let people
Speaker 1: do their thing. Yeah, policing, did you see something recently
Speaker 1: that like made you feel that way? I mean, mostly
Speaker 1: it's like the anti trans bills and and just the
Speaker 1: idea of like everything has to be this sis hit
Speaker 1: whatever heteronormative relationships and like they're literally trying to make
Speaker 1: that the law. Yeah no, seriously, like why this doesn't
Speaker 1: this literally doesn't affect you. And they're like, no, being
Speaker 1: trans is contagious, Like if we let kids be trans
Speaker 1: in school, then like my kid's gonna catch it. It's
Speaker 1: like the right, is that literally not how it works?
Speaker 1: Oh well that's what my dad always said, and I've
Speaker 1: never bothered to examine that, so I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 1: perpetuating that. Yeah. Yeah, so that was that was really
Speaker 1: what it has been driving that for me. Also, like
Speaker 1: microdocing stuff like that. I'm like, if somebody's being safe,
Speaker 1: like who fucking cares if they're having a good time
Speaker 1: like one night or one weekend with their friends, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're seeing people like a microdocing backlash. Um. I mean, well, okay,
Speaker 1: so Oregon decriminalize everything, which is really fucking cool, And
Speaker 1: then everybody was like crime is skyrocketing, like there's all
Speaker 1: these homeless people and whatever. I'm like, you like, there's
Speaker 1: there's there's no correlation here. There was no correlation here
Speaker 1: at all, Right, Yeah, it's not because of the unaffordable housing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's right exactly, It's it's because of the mushrooms and
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm just I've been I've been seeing I've
Speaker 1: been seeing some of that. The other thing is like
Speaker 1: there there people have been doing these like street races
Speaker 1: and poland, which is not I understand it's like not safe,
Speaker 1: but I'm like I'm trying to be like, well, give
Speaker 1: them a place to do it, like just block off
Speaker 1: an intersection or whatever the fuck they want somewhere right,
Speaker 1: And it's like the track you can give them. There
Speaker 1: is a fucking racetrack here. Like give them some space
Speaker 1: to like blow off steam. Like that's really important and
Speaker 1: literally goes back to this idea of like poverty and
Speaker 1: self regulation. Like if people don't have the space to
Speaker 1: blow off steam, they are going to do bad shit.
Speaker 1: So just like let them do something that is not
Speaker 1: going to hurt anyone in a space where they're not
Speaker 1: going to cause more harm and like be like get
Speaker 1: over yourself, right, or it's like the same. I see
Speaker 1: that all the time with like in Philly or Baltimore,
Speaker 1: like especially with kids on like a TVs and dirt
Speaker 1: bikes and stuff like in the street. Just doing their thing,
Speaker 1: you know, having fun, and they're like they're doing wheelies everywhere,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the people in the community like, well,
Speaker 1: they need a space. This is what they like to do,
Speaker 1: and this is the space we have. Yeah, and we
Speaker 1: live here, So is there another place they can do that,
Speaker 1: because the alternative is them to really be doing some
Speaker 1: other shit that is probably not great. If they want
Speaker 1: to blow steam off by being on a bike or whatever.
Speaker 1: Let's figure out a way to embrace that for people.
Speaker 1: And I get that, like again narrowly right, if could
Speaker 1: the danger that it presents on like a clouded street
Speaker 1: or whatever. So if that's the case, don't just try
Speaker 1: and be like, well y'all not doing that ever again,
Speaker 1: you know, just figure out how to redirect that energy
Speaker 1: in a way that makes sense. But yet, to your point,
Speaker 1: it's not always where they're like, well I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: So it's illegal. Yeah, yeah, and it's but it's it's
Speaker 1: just it's really interesting because it's like, don't have sex,
Speaker 1: don't do drugs, don't drink. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: like kids should be drinking or having sex or doing drugs.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but there's like something don't have fun,
Speaker 1: Like every we're just gonna make everything illegal, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like sweet, we have this whole
Speaker 1: population of workers who we get to control now, I
Speaker 1: guess because everything is illegal. Also based on movies about
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties, which is the period that they're supposed to, like,
Speaker 1: I feel like drag racing in the La River basin
Speaker 1: was like one of two things that people did people.
Speaker 1: It was that and singing due up around a trash
Speaker 1: camp fire, only two things that you were allowed to do.
Speaker 1: Oh man, But that I mean that brings up a
Speaker 1: really good point, like cruising is illegal, yeah, because there's
Speaker 1: no where you can do that, and it's just like okay,
Speaker 1: you just really don't want people to exist, like you
Speaker 1: want them to be as miserable as possible or show
Speaker 1: their pride off in their rides, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Because Crenshaw, like in La that used to be the
Speaker 1: fucking spot like on Sundays and now the fuck like
Speaker 1: you know, we saw it change all the times, like
Speaker 1: no fucking cruising ever, right, yeah, and those are like
Speaker 1: I remember going with like my family to go see
Speaker 1: like I would look at these cars and shit, and yeah,
Speaker 1: there might be some unsavory figures there, but at most
Speaker 1: of the time people respected the fact that everybody was
Speaker 1: there wanting to show off their rides and be and
Speaker 1: have community or whatever. But yeah, but community is not profitable.
Speaker 1: The community is not profitable. Rights is not profitable. Loneliness
Speaker 1: is profitable because especially now with phones. That is the
Speaker 1: one complained about phones that I think is accurate, is
Speaker 1: that it's given them a new way to monetize loneliness, right,
Speaker 1: And I guess it goes to like, you know, I
Speaker 1: guess it's kind of like a third like the discussion
Speaker 1: of like third places or whatever, you know, like you
Speaker 1: have those social environments or at the very least, like now,
Speaker 1: I feel like in America the only place you can
Speaker 1: congregate is somewhere that is tied to commerce. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like we don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: the like we don't have the same parksist or at
Speaker 1: least not in LA. There's a lot of places where
Speaker 1: it's not as easy to just like hang out somewhere
Speaker 1: unless you are there to spend money for a specific reason. Right,
Speaker 1: What is something Tori that you think is underrated? I
Speaker 1: think kids are underrated not having kids. Having kids is
Speaker 1: not Like I really don't like it when people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you gotta have kids, you're going to be unfulfilled, or
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be really lonely, or it was gonna
Speaker 1: take care of you when you're old. Like I'm not
Speaker 1: here for any of that bullshit. I just mean, like, kids,
Speaker 1: like a genre of humans, are really fucking cool. And
Speaker 1: I wish that like more people understood, you know, like
Speaker 1: just even the basics of like human brain development, because
Speaker 1: it's like once you get that, it's like, oh, like
Speaker 1: this is this is a whole last person here, and
Speaker 1: like everything that I can do to like invest in
Speaker 1: them as a as a person, just even just some
Speaker 1: like conversation and hanging out and like interacting that like
Speaker 1: all that stuff matters, right because it's actually isn't that
Speaker 1: hard to support kids, and data shows like having one
Speaker 1: adult that you feel like is in your corner makes
Speaker 1: all of the difference when you're growing up, you know,
Speaker 1: and like that that carries over into adulthood. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I just think kids as people are are underrated. Again,
Speaker 1: this is not like it go make babies, you know,
Speaker 1: but if somebody. If somebody has a baby and like
Speaker 1: wants me to babysit, Miles, I totally will come down.
Speaker 1: Come down, Yeah, come to come through, come through babies
Speaker 1: and kids. I mean next week, next week, the guy's
Speaker 1: child will be in the studio, So hold on those
Speaker 1: episodes because yeah, her majesty at work. My mom is
Speaker 1: in Japan, and I was saying, I was like, I
Speaker 1: could maybe find childcare, but I really want to embrace
Speaker 1: trying to be a parent. And you got start their
Speaker 1: social profile too. You gotta make sure that they start
Speaker 1: to get their voice out there exactly so you will
Speaker 1: hear little coups in the background. And I'm just want
Speaker 1: to warn y'all listeners for next week please don't be
Speaker 1: you know, bothered by that, because again, kids are dull, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're listening to argue that somebody so that you can
Speaker 1: kind of get used to the sounds next year and
Speaker 1: you are kids are Yeah, kids are truly the best.
Speaker 1: My son asked me this morning how he gets ideas
Speaker 1: in his head that nobody told him. Hell, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. That is such an interesting way to just
Speaker 1: like articulate that. Yeah, he was like, because like sometimes
Speaker 1: I just like make up stuff at school, like I
Speaker 1: got I was telling people that the color blue is
Speaker 1: darker than the color green, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know that that's true, but why not broadly? But
Speaker 1: I'm sure like on a color wheel, They're like, I
Speaker 1: mean there there is more black and blue. I don't
Speaker 1: know whatever, but isn't it Isn't it a primary? But
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I was like that, it's
Speaker 1: called creativity, yeah, like yeah, yeah, but that's not what
Speaker 1: I'm looking for. That's not the answer he was looking for.
Speaker 1: He wanted like some kind of Greek thing about genus
Speaker 1: and like he's like, well, the Greeks, you should say
Speaker 1: someone had a genius rather than someone was a genius,
Speaker 1: and that in fact they would be visited by this
Speaker 1: other entity that would give them ideas. Is that what
Speaker 1: made you like that? You? Yeah, that's probably more what
Speaker 1: he was looking for. Yeah, that is actually an obsession
Speaker 1: that kids go through or like that some kids have.
Speaker 1: It's in the category of you know, sharks, dinosaurs, Greek mythology.
Speaker 1: That's the one I'm most interested in. It most surprised
Speaker 1: by Alloway's mind with all this shit. I like read
Speaker 1: freshman year of college. Just hit him with those facts.
Speaker 1: Now it's like, you know it hit him with some
Speaker 1: Alan Watts type shit too, been like, yeah, do you
Speaker 1: think we're special on this? David Hume would say that
Speaker 1: you don't have any ideas. It's called empiricism. My dad
Speaker 1: would always hit me with shit like that. So I
Speaker 1: was a very weird kid, like early on in school
Speaker 1: and teachers were like, why are you saying that to
Speaker 1: the other kids. I'm like, why did you bring a
Speaker 1: condom to school? I'm like, because I went to the
Speaker 1: aid's walk and they were handing them out. Oh that's
Speaker 1: And my dad wasn't gonna, like, you know, try and
Speaker 1: sugarcoat anything very much, explained like the AIDS epidemic to
Speaker 1: me and what condoms were. And I was in kindergarten,
Speaker 1: i remember, and then I went to school and I
Speaker 1: talked about it and they got so mad. They're like
Speaker 1: and they were like, what are you telling your son?
Speaker 1: And my dad was like, the about the world, the
Speaker 1: communities that he like, he interacts with, and to know
Speaker 1: about that and that shouldn't be something obscured. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: my kid wants to do a Greek mythology Lego set
Speaker 1: where he wants Lego to make a Lego set that
Speaker 1: is all the Greek gods. Yeah, that's that, yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's what he's advocating for right now. So yeah, okay, Lego,
Speaker 1: you heard us, your cowards over in Denmark tired of
Speaker 1: this Danish supremacy man. But I do think that's one
Speaker 1: of those things that is I think we put a
Speaker 1: call out like early on for listeners to like tell
Speaker 1: us what their weird obsession was when their kid. Mine
Speaker 1: was sharks and miles wos yours you had, you had
Speaker 1: a bunch of them. I feeling dinosaurs the Civil War year,
Speaker 1: but Greek was the one, like surprise, you know, my
Speaker 1: kid was like trains and then sharks and fish and
Speaker 1: now Star Wars. But a bunch of people hit us
Speaker 1: with the oh, it was actually Greek mythology. I was obsessed.
Speaker 1: My child was a Napoleon Bonaparte for like over a year,
Speaker 1: so interesting, Napoleon everything, And like my partner tries to
Speaker 1: like kind of be like, well, you know, Napoleon was
Speaker 1: technically like a dictator, and he's like, no, he was
Speaker 1: just a populist and he decided to take over things
Speaker 1: and like they're having this coversation like what is happening
Speaker 1: right now? Like, yeah, can you take take a trip
Speaker 1: to the Garden of Evil? I think damn it? Or
Speaker 1: he's like, mother, can you take me to Corsica? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Literally no, He's like days, he's like if I He's like,
Speaker 1: if I become a He's like, if I become a
Speaker 1: Swiss politician, do you think that I could get into
Speaker 1: the UN and like take over Western Europe? Like what
Speaker 1: is your child? Sir? Yeah? Sure, why not do it?
Speaker 1: Do it? He's like he's like practicing French on due
Speaker 1: lingo every single day, Like he's that like a one
Speaker 1: hundred day street. He's like committed to this, this to
Speaker 1: becoming Napoleon. Well, I'm like doing kind of like a
Speaker 1: reverse colonization because he's like I'm gonna give all of
Speaker 1: the colonies back to all of the all the people,
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to take over Europe. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I's gonna do it. Yeah. I'm like, okay, I can't
Speaker 1: really argue with this logic. Child's timeline. Do they have
Speaker 1: a Napoleonic lego set like the Napoleon Oh? I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think so, but you can. You
Speaker 1: can submit ideas so they to lego's ideas and if
Speaker 1: you get like ten thousand votes, I think they'll like
Speaker 1: make the set. Why. Yeah, it's smart, a smart way
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah. Yeah, Napoleon. Hollywood has been sitting
Speaker 1: on a Napoleon movie forever, like they you know, like
Speaker 1: Kubrick was supposed to make a Napoleon movie. They just
Speaker 1: keep putting it. Oh, keep kicking kicking, okay, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then the Greek myth thing I guess Percy Jackson was
Speaker 1: was that but yeah, I don't know my kids, but
Speaker 1: it was more but that's more of a kids movie. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Would a Napoleon lego figure be smaller than the other
Speaker 1: lego if it was historically accurate? Well, my child would
Speaker 1: say that he actually wasn't that short for the time
Speaker 1: you can get It's like funny like on Etsy people
Speaker 1: are selling Napoleon legos like they're like, hey, we got custed.
Speaker 1: We know you like that Napoleon with your money right now?
Speaker 1: Can you send me that link so I can buy
Speaker 1: that for my kid. I was already thinking. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: let me see if I can find something for your chard.
Speaker 1: I'm in dad mode y'all great if you if you
Speaker 1: have the time to like wait for you know, a
Speaker 1: little longer. But like that's where my wife got a
Speaker 1: great spider Man Halloween cost him on it. Like they will,
Speaker 1: they will customize. That's there's some great artists on there
Speaker 1: doing good work. Oh I love this. This is amazing.
Speaker 1: Of course. Look I'm always looking out for the children. Yeah,
Speaker 1: DZ is for the children. As they say, all right,
Speaker 1: well the right has a new Etsy project coming to
Speaker 1: us that well we'll talk about it's a new beer
Speaker 1: just for assholes. Well when you said that, I thought
Speaker 1: you meant like for like for you to boof for
Speaker 1: your asshole. And I was like and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh this story, no, no, no, no other than well,
Speaker 1: I mean you know Brett would be into that. Brett, Yeah,
Speaker 1: haven on beach chugging, dude, bea chug All right, we'll
Speaker 1: be right back and we're back. And Seth Weathers is
Speaker 1: a name that I now know that I didn't know,
Speaker 1: didn't have to know. So this is a GOP strategist.
Speaker 1: I don't know how official that designation is. Conservative Dad.
Speaker 1: Seth Weathers just launched a beer specifically market marketed to
Speaker 1: transphobes ultra right beer, and he claims it's the beer
Speaker 1: that hasn't been infected by the woke mind virus. It
Speaker 1: starts out with Weathers complaining about trans people using public restrooms,
Speaker 1: and then it cuts to him exiting the men's room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just listen to this, because this whole thing's like, I
Speaker 1: make beer for people that know what bathroom they like. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the hook point, and just listen to this absolute
Speaker 1: drivel from Seth Myers or whatever. That's why I created
Speaker 1: Conservative Dad's ultra right woke free beer. As conservatives, we're
Speaker 1: constantly getting hit in the face left and right by
Speaker 1: the woke mind virus. Oh, if you know what, you
Speaker 1: know what beer should be drinking. Stop giving money to
Speaker 1: woke corporations, hate our values, and to the rescue woke corporations.
Speaker 1: Say that. Okay anyway, So if you're really angry at
Speaker 1: aluminum cans, you like to wear backwards trucker hats, and
Speaker 1: you haven't seen your kids in six years, I think
Speaker 1: this is beer for you. Yeah. He smashes a can
Speaker 1: of bud Light with a baseball bat on a te
Speaker 1: t ball. You know, the most macho thing an adult
Speaker 1: man can do is play tea ball in a park
Speaker 1: that is completely empty, again because he has alienated himself
Speaker 1: from regular society because he's so angry at a beer
Speaker 1: can because he knows what bathroom to use. Yeah, sure, sure,
Speaker 1: these people know they're being drifted, Like they can't. I
Speaker 1: just refuse to believe they're that stupid to I don't
Speaker 1: don't know they're being drifted. Let's pump the brakes on
Speaker 1: calling it a grift because this beer, which no doubt
Speaker 1: tastes wonderful, they're charging twenty dollars for a six pack.
Speaker 1: It has a lower AVV than smearknoff ice, it has
Speaker 1: a lower ABV than bud Light. It's basically water. So
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's Utah beer. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: the right, Yeah, okay, that's only a very technically beer
Speaker 1: because you're I mean, I feel like the other like
Speaker 1: the hyper masculine attack would be like Leach, you're a
Speaker 1: low ABV beer, you snowflake. But again, whatever his operation
Speaker 1: he's doing to like make these beers very quickly, it
Speaker 1: probably you're not able to be I guess take your
Speaker 1: pick of the litter of all the beers. Out there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that twenty dollars for a six pack is
Speaker 1: like not even. I can't even. I have a feeling
Speaker 1: that this is just part of he's got something else.
Speaker 1: He's gonna use this to like raise his stock in
Speaker 1: the fucking right wing outrageous sphere. You know, he's got
Speaker 1: lots of other things he's got does uh. He also
Speaker 1: sold a T shirt with a QR code on it.
Speaker 1: It says, scan my vaccine passport the t shirt does
Speaker 1: you scan the QR code? And then it takes you
Speaker 1: to a website that is called freedom speaks Up dot
Speaker 1: com and it, oh, no, sorry that freedom speaks Up
Speaker 1: dot com is where you can buy the and I'm
Speaker 1: guessing our audience is not going to be a fan.
Speaker 1: And then it takes you to a website on bring
Speaker 1: ammo dot com that is just a picture, a photograph
Speaker 1: that he took of the US Constitution my vaccine passport,
Speaker 1: finger pointing down to the US Constitution. Then siren, I
Speaker 1: am not a sheep, siren. The US Constitution is the
Speaker 1: only document I will ever need to travel freely in
Speaker 1: the US. Okay, not true, not daddy sovereign. I don't
Speaker 1: need a driver's license so my driver's license is the
Speaker 1: Constitution of States. Learn the difference between driving and traveling. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna tell you, officer, where's your where's
Speaker 1: your supervisor? Because I'm not driving, I'm traveling. Read the
Speaker 1: US Constitution. Why are you breaking my window? Why are
Speaker 1: these people? Man? I love? I mean who I really
Speaker 1: want to know what his like family situation is, Like
Speaker 1: if you got this kind of time when you're like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do? Got an ultra right beer? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is going to maybe just get me sued or
Speaker 1: something like that. And people, God, I feel like we
Speaker 1: like for how much we kind of stay on top
Speaker 1: of like the outrage culture war stuff Jack, we should
Speaker 1: have been able to get ahead of this guy and
Speaker 1: started grifting already and being like, oh yeah, try this
Speaker 1: ultra like anti woke beer and then find print all
Speaker 1: the proceeds go to like the Trevor like the Trevor Project,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And he seeple have too much money, the fact that
Speaker 1: like Trump can raise us like millions of dollars because
Speaker 1: he starts crying for a minute after like having to
Speaker 1: go into a meeting. It's like this, these people have
Speaker 1: too much money. I just I fully support I would
Speaker 1: like I want to do. I want to do the
Speaker 1: like full blown the Maga crowd with them for the left,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like literally, you know, like
Speaker 1: with with you know, I feel like I have a
Speaker 1: better marketing eye than this fucking guy. And you market
Speaker 1: something and then you just completely own them when they
Speaker 1: buy your ship, like here's the alternative that Nike, bro,
Speaker 1: And then you're like you just gave all your money
Speaker 1: to these candidates, Thank you so much. Oh kay, But
Speaker 1: like Nike's Nike's like part of the fucking problem, right,
Speaker 1: Like they use like black and brown people's athletic accomplishments,
Speaker 1: and then like Phil Knight is just like laughing his
Speaker 1: way all the way to the RNC to like write
Speaker 1: a fucking check. Yeah it's not I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: but like I don't know, it's like it's it's woke
Speaker 1: to have that trans model or something, even though the
Speaker 1: dudes giving your money to the fucking Republican Party. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's never. That's what's so funny is they're never like
Speaker 1: staying on top of where they stand on all the issues,
Speaker 1: which is like you know, we give our money to
Speaker 1: like a lot of these creeps that you love. Right,
Speaker 1: we just do this to like appear like we're a
Speaker 1: like a sane company to the public. Right. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: the outrage continues, the outrage. I missed this story mostly,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, it's mainly that bud Light employed a
Speaker 1: trans influencer. Yeah, and that that's it, right, that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: stay away from our kids will corporate. So it's just
Speaker 1: that they would even market like with a trans person
Speaker 1: is yeah, wow, Yeah, it's it's fine. They take their
Speaker 1: kids to church every Sunday, not not nobody grooming anybody there.
Speaker 1: The other thing is too like we we actually talked
Speaker 1: about this on one of the past episodes, like have
Speaker 1: you not seen bud Lights like pride campaigns every year? Right?
Speaker 1: What it seems like they were waiting for the right
Speaker 1: thing to do. They know what do they know? What
Speaker 1: the t is? An lgb q t lg lgb qt yeah,
Speaker 1: lgbt q. I'm sorry, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Liga bigga tigo like that dude off TikTok,
Speaker 1: now you know what I mean? Like, because then did
Speaker 1: you see, oh Jack, I don't think you missed it.
Speaker 1: There was one bust add that bud Light did that said,
Speaker 1: like during Pride, it said lgbt Q and it said,
Speaker 1: let's get beers tonight queens. Yes? Is that real? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean and like that also see like ought to
Speaker 1: be set. That's amazing night queens. Satire is so dead,
Speaker 1: it's being just destroyed by like much better satire than
Speaker 1: reality everything. So the new pastime too is like Kevin
Speaker 1: Sorbo on Twitter just tweeting is like, oh, bud Light,
Speaker 1: the Anheuser Bush just lost like seven billion dollars in
Speaker 1: market cap or whatever, and they're like, yeah, they're losing.
Speaker 1: It's like asshole. They own every beer you drink basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all owned by the same company. They're like three companies.
Speaker 1: What the beers that you're switching to are the same
Speaker 1: exact You have a very high probability that, like if
Speaker 1: without being too like you know, they're putting too much
Speaker 1: scrutiny into your beer, that you are just giving Anheiser
Speaker 1: Busch in Bev your money again. But anyway, it's for
Speaker 1: another discussion about and if this does permanently dent bud
Speaker 1: Lights sales, I would have to assume that that has
Speaker 1: more to do with the fact that people these people
Speaker 1: had never tried a beer besides bud Light to this point,
Speaker 1: and they're now trying like their first non bud Light
Speaker 1: beer and they're like, wait, so beer can like have
Speaker 1: taste to it? That? Yeah, but that that like that
Speaker 1: three pack of Tall Boys, that's like a state of
Speaker 1: like LA construction workers. Right, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it ain't going anywhere. But okay, you know, do
Speaker 1: you do you? All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll come back, we'll talk to Tim Scott, we'll talk
Speaker 1: some other news, and we're back, and South Carolina Senator
Speaker 1: Tim Scott has announced that he is running for president. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not from his own self loathing. Somehow I thought he
Speaker 1: would be running from that, but no, he's trying to
Speaker 1: run towards the White House without knowing anything about him.
Speaker 1: You just you already know he has no chance, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's what's so funny about this
Speaker 1: to me, Like, you know, here's the future of like
Speaker 1: the Republican Party as I see it. If you don't
Speaker 1: actually come for Trump's ass and be able to beat
Speaker 1: him at his own game, you will not do shit,
Speaker 1: that's just where energetically, that's just where it's at. That's
Speaker 1: the only thing I think that's gonna move the needle
Speaker 1: for somebody's gonna be like, nah, this guy sucks. He's
Speaker 1: actually not far right enough, and I'll own you in
Speaker 1: a debate or whatever. Everyone's like, you know, everyone is
Speaker 1: very They're deferential to Trump, and that's truly at their
Speaker 1: own peril. Right now, Tim Scott isn't even polling in
Speaker 1: the double digits in his own fucking state of South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Trump is like ahead of the field by twenty points,
Speaker 1: and Ronda Santis is like, you know, back another flight.
Speaker 1: I think, oh yeah, he's He's ahead of de Santis
Speaker 1: by twenty points. So a lot of people are like,
Speaker 1: what is the point of this? And his campaign launch video,
Speaker 1: if you saw it, it's truly one of the saddest
Speaker 1: things I've seen for starters. He fundamentally, I think, has
Speaker 1: no idea what the Civil War represents because he filmed
Speaker 1: it at fucking Fort Sumter, Okay, one of the place
Speaker 1: where you know, white supremacist s sessionists were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's fucking go after this government facility and just kick
Speaker 1: off the Civil War and he talks about how he
Speaker 1: will never back down, but like many history off are
Speaker 1: like you know, like Sumter was never taken by the Union,
Speaker 1: like once they took it, it was only abandoned after
Speaker 1: the fact. So like, so, how what are the sides?
Speaker 1: Who exactly are you are? Who are the Confederates? Because
Speaker 1: the modern day GOP, like you know, the conservatives of
Speaker 1: like that time, they were not about equality. If my
Speaker 1: recollection holds correctly about the Civil War, I thought there
Speaker 1: were just about states, right smiles than that, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was it was about commerce, was about commerce. Just it's
Speaker 1: only about commerce. I know some people have like tweeted
Speaker 1: at me, They're like, well, it was also about commerce.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not okay, the commerce of what goods? Yeah,
Speaker 1: which goods in particular? Was it your king by the
Speaker 1: name of cotton? But anyway, like they like based on
Speaker 1: the images though that like suddenly he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: the America's gon divided, and like we're having to stand
Speaker 1: tall against people that would rather bring the country down
Speaker 1: their flashing images of Bernie AOC, Elizabeth Warren and Biden,
Speaker 1: And I think he's trying to say that they are
Speaker 1: the bad guys because that whole thing of like you know,
Speaker 1: Lincoln was a Republican and then just act like there's
Speaker 1: no other context that that would be meaningful to this
Speaker 1: like depiction. So you know, good luck to that man.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a tragic comedy, I think at
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, like his whole run because he clearly
Speaker 1: has no idea what's going on, even like with his
Speaker 1: own base, and that like the GOP's constant messaging and
Speaker 1: like of racism and fearmongering has turned them into a
Speaker 1: group that is incapable of understanding policy. They don't even
Speaker 1: care well fuck policy, they only know blood. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: like his whole thing's like I want to get to
Speaker 1: brass tex So, Like, bro, they're gonna eat you alive.
Speaker 1: M did you know his signature His signature piece of
Speaker 1: legislation is it's urban restoration. It's literally giving tax breaks
Speaker 1: to developers to do gentrification. Like that is that man's
Speaker 1: like on his fucking website. That is his signature piece
Speaker 1: of legislation. I'm pretty sure passed under Trump. But anyway, right,
Speaker 1: I mean remember too when he tried to enter like
Speaker 1: there was his like policing bill too that they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: in the summer twenty twenty, like, hey, you're our black senator,
Speaker 1: you should introduce this bill of incremental Change and we'll
Speaker 1: treat it as revolutionary. And you know, he got his
Speaker 1: little applause and things like that, but it's just like
Speaker 1: it feels like this like a scene in a movie
Speaker 1: where like a dorky kid wants to ask the most
Speaker 1: popular girl to prom even though she's totally out of
Speaker 1: his league and a violent racist. Like we're as the audience,
Speaker 1: you like, we all know the outcome. Yeah, he's still
Speaker 1: like walking up with his like like box of Russell
Speaker 1: Stover's chocolates and be like, um, callie, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And it's just like no, man, no, full,
Speaker 1: get the fuck away. She's raised. What the fuck you
Speaker 1: trying to do? Man? Leave her alone? Leave that shit alone.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's also he already had he had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to act like a serious candidate too, when he
Speaker 1: was asked about you know, abortion, because that's a that's
Speaker 1: a big deal right now, and it's probably it's it's
Speaker 1: proven to be a losing fucking policy platform, policy point
Speaker 1: for the Republicans. And I'll play this clip for you
Speaker 1: where he's asked about abortion, and I just want to
Speaker 1: warn you he has a pretty good answer. Who the
Speaker 1: fuck am I kidding? He absolutely fucked the bed with
Speaker 1: his answer about abortion. Try and even decipher what he
Speaker 1: even means with this answer. When he's asked about where
Speaker 1: he's at on abortion. Yes, sir, would you support a
Speaker 1: federal ban on abortions? I would suddenly say that the
Speaker 1: fact that it matters when you look at the issue
Speaker 1: of abortion. One of the challenge that we have. We
Speaker 1: continue to go to the most restrictive conversations without broadening
Speaker 1: the scope and thinking I'm one hundred percent pro life.
Speaker 1: I never walk away from that. But the truth of
Speaker 1: the matter is that when you look at the issues
Speaker 1: on abortion, I start with the very important conversation I
Speaker 1: had in a banking hearing when I was sitting in
Speaker 1: my office and listening to the Janet yell In, the
Speaker 1: Secretary of the Treasury talk about increasing the labor force
Speaker 1: participation rate for African American women by having abortions. I
Speaker 1: think we're just having the wrong conversation. Oh my fucking guy,
Speaker 1: my man, my man, wow wow wow wow. So so
Speaker 1: what is oh my god, well, I mean to me,
Speaker 1: this this this gets right up there with the domestic
Speaker 1: supply of infants launching. Oh yeah, like this is this
Speaker 1: is the actual conversation we're having, is like should we
Speaker 1: keep black women in the labor force or should we
Speaker 1: forced them to have children so that we have more
Speaker 1: bodies for the jails? Like, right, what are you even
Speaker 1: talking about? Man? And that's where my mind went through
Speaker 1: a comm I'm looking I look at abortion through a
Speaker 1: commerce lens, right, or committee meeting that I was in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like ay, but again, you know, go ahead man, Like
Speaker 1: this is so that's why it's so funny to watch
Speaker 1: them deal with this like plutonium rod of the abortion issue.
Speaker 1: They don't know, like to just drop it and throw
Speaker 1: it as far away from them as possible, and like,
Speaker 1: I think it's melting my skin because I'm holding it's
Speaker 1: still like fuck off. But anyway, this is this is
Speaker 1: what they got. Well, speaking of what they got, they
Speaker 1: got they got billionaires on their side. Yeah. And so
Speaker 1: we we mentioned in passing past couple of days that
Speaker 1: The Atlantic was entering the fray with the Wall Street
Speaker 1: Journal with a column from somebody being like, you guys,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Harlan Crowe is totally normal
Speaker 1: Nazi paraphernalia collector doesn't mean he's a Nazi. The So
Speaker 1: this is the Atlantic, you know, presumably considered to be
Speaker 1: like center left journalistic institution, you know, even though the
Speaker 1: center what is considered to be the center left and
Speaker 1: the United States is actually far right, far right. But
Speaker 1: I just want to read how the article opens, because
Speaker 1: this it just it's an interesting It's by somebody named
Speaker 1: Graham Wood or Graham would never seen Graham spelled this
Speaker 1: way for English. For English, Gray Jr. Aemy would so.
Speaker 1: First sentence. I've never met Harlan Crowe, Supreme Court Justice
Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas's billionaire best friend, but I have peered through
Speaker 1: the fence surrounding his estate late at night, and once
Speaker 1: I went inside and snooped around for a couple hours.
Speaker 1: Last year, Crowe and his wife Kathy put on an
Speaker 1: event to honor two Dallas humanitarians, and I was invited
Speaker 1: with about one hundred others for cocktails and canopies in
Speaker 1: the Crow's cavernous library, a Texas scale wood panel room
Speaker 1: with walk in fireplace and a collection of art and
Speaker 1: memorabilia worthy of a bond villain. So that's an interesting start.
Speaker 1: And you might suspect that him snooping outside of this
Speaker 1: compound that contains Nazi memorabilia was like him as a
Speaker 1: journalist being like, there's something up with this guy. There's
Speaker 1: just like something that doesn't scan. He's always like hanging
Speaker 1: out with these really influential right wing dignitaries and lead
Speaker 1: and Supreme Court justices, and like so I'm I've hung out,
Speaker 1: I've like kind of kept my eye. But it turns
Speaker 1: out that it's like actually aspirational and he just like
Speaker 1: was hanging out there because he wants to like get
Speaker 1: invited in, and like was excited because he goes on
Speaker 1: to just be like he's a total sweetheart. Essentially. It's
Speaker 1: that last paragraph of it that's really fucking wild of
Speaker 1: like where you kind of have half of the quote
Speaker 1: from the last paragraph. Yeah, it's simply isn't possible to
Speaker 1: be a Nazi crypto or otherwise and simultaneously being Abe
Speaker 1: Lincoln and Liz Cheney fanboy. Let alone to conceal from
Speaker 1: your dearest confidence among them black and Jewish people, your
Speaker 1: preference for the master race, he wrote. Then he says
Speaker 1: that he him if he were ever to become a billionaire,
Speaker 1: he would buy one of those gold dinars, the official
Speaker 1: currency minted by the Islamic State, and that was like
Speaker 1: his beat, like as a journalist was he was covering
Speaker 1: that a lot. So I think he was trying to
Speaker 1: like put this thing of like, Okay, this is how
Speaker 1: this is. You know, I'm into like, I covered some
Speaker 1: pretty awful stuff, and I'm kind of maybe with like
Speaker 1: a coin, I guess, just to like for frenzies, right,
Speaker 1: And then he says, some strangers might suppose that because
Speaker 1: I own such a repugnant item, I must have secretly
Speaker 1: pledged my soul to Abu Bakar al Baghdadi. But my
Speaker 1: friends would know otherwise because they are not morons. Ah. Yes,
Speaker 1: So it's just that like kind of dismissive Ivy League
Speaker 1: Harvard bullshit where it's just like everybody who says this
Speaker 1: is dumb. If you say someone's Hitler or into Nazis
Speaker 1: because they have a signed copy of mine, COUMF, You're
Speaker 1: just dumb and you're not as cultured as I am.
Speaker 1: Excuse me while I finished stuffing my face with Canopez.
Speaker 1: There's there's also an older article the in the Atlantic,
Speaker 1: because he's written for the Atlantic for a while talking
Speaker 1: about being a high school class of Richard Spencer. Oh,
Speaker 1: don't worry, he's not a fan of Richard Spencer. But
Speaker 1: that article opens with him bragging about being at a
Speaker 1: Christmas party bash with Richard Spencer for Reason Magazine, the
Speaker 1: libertarian publication, and he's not like and I infiltrated this.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I got to go to this cool
Speaker 1: Christmas party with Reason Magazine, a libertarian publication. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, I like, I'm sure there's a world where
Speaker 1: Harlan Crowe is just doesn't have an ideological thought in
Speaker 1: his head that he's aware of, you know. And it's
Speaker 1: just like Tackley collecting these things based on the fact
Speaker 1: that they make the people around him oh and ah,
Speaker 1: and you know they seem important, and then just like
Speaker 1: throwing them all up next to each other with no context,
Speaker 1: like it's a TGI Fridays. But it's like the first
Speaker 1: of all, the fact that like his audience is like,
Speaker 1: ooh my god, like look how nice the cutlery and
Speaker 1: napkin wear of the Nazis were is weird. And also
Speaker 1: it's just revealing that like this Harvard grat, like this
Speaker 1: this person who's supposed to be at the center of
Speaker 1: like mainstream media like dives in and like, you know,
Speaker 1: is giving the benefit of the doubt to this billionaire, right,
Speaker 1: you know what, would not do would not even think
Speaker 1: to do the same thing with somebody who's murdered by
Speaker 1: the police, for instance, you know so, But when it
Speaker 1: comes to the most powerful people in the country, they
Speaker 1: rush in to be like, you gotta give him the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. He's just into the stuff because
Speaker 1: it's cool. It's the other thing that he says, hold on,
Speaker 1: I gotta fucking stupid things paywald and I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: him my fucking money. I know. That's that's what makes
Speaker 1: this all so difficult. There's there's this one part where
Speaker 1: he basically says like he's saying like if I, if I,
Speaker 1: if I wanted to unburden myself of the billions of
Speaker 1: dollars of inherited wealth, I too might invest in curious
Speaker 1: historical pieces. He leaves is the term like unburdened myself
Speaker 1: of billions of dollars, And you're like, oh, the burden
Speaker 1: of having What else are you're gonna do but buy
Speaker 1: Nazi shit? When you got billions of dollars, please y'all
Speaker 1: come to see look at the point, and he hangs
Speaker 1: out with Jewish people and black people. He can't be
Speaker 1: into the master race. And again I'm not even saying
Speaker 1: like it's it's a nailed on thing. I'm like, sure,
Speaker 1: maybe he has some weird quirk about it. But I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this, if I had billions of dollars, I'm
Speaker 1: not buying Nazi shit, Okay, I'm buying weird fucking I
Speaker 1: don't even know what. I don't even have the I
Speaker 1: have the mind, like the imagination to put myself there,
Speaker 1: like what would I buy? But it feels like like
Speaker 1: that's what myself interesting is that, like this person who
Speaker 1: writes for The Atlantic supposedly center left, like widely regarded.
Speaker 1: If you asked anybody who like writes to the New
Speaker 1: York Times to be like that place is center left
Speaker 1: or you know, sure, Like this is a person who
Speaker 1: peers through the gates of a billionaire's home at night
Speaker 1: and fantasizes about the weird murder paraphernalia he would buy
Speaker 1: when he becomes a billionaire, right, Like, that's who is
Speaker 1: at the center of the mainstream media. The center, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the mainstream media. Well look again, it's it's all about
Speaker 1: the status quo at the end of the day. And
Speaker 1: to like begin a real earnest discussion of like this
Speaker 1: is this is why everything so fucked up might be
Speaker 1: a bridge too far, and it's better to just be
Speaker 1: like is it that bad to have a ton of money?
Speaker 1: And yeah, you're into weird historical stuff, right, nothing to
Speaker 1: see here, Okay, keep it moving. I personally think it's
Speaker 1: fucking weird to collect Nazi stuff. I'm going on the record, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna find me collecting that shit. If anything,
Speaker 1: I'd be like I'd buy like a weird I'd buy
Speaker 1: so much weird sports crap probably, you know, like meaningless shit,
Speaker 1: like a fucking ticket from like Arsenal match of like
Speaker 1: yester Year for nothing, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like I don't know like that. I even
Speaker 1: the thought of like Nazi memorbill just freaks me out,
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to fucking even Like there's this
Speaker 1: guy who was a friend of a friend who I remember,
Speaker 1: like like something came to lighting it, like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: found out this guy collects like a bunch of Nazi stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And they're like they're then and I met them, They're
Speaker 1: like they're such Wait that guy he's so nice. He's
Speaker 1: like yeah, he's kind of like really into that stuff.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's never been I have to I
Speaker 1: don't know anybody who that, but I gotta think it's
Speaker 1: an every good time. But it's just interesting to think
Speaker 1: about the audience of this stuff that has driven him
Speaker 1: to continue to keep a bunch of like Nazi Dinner
Speaker 1: were on display, a painting by Hitler next to a
Speaker 1: painting by Norman Rockwell and a painting by George Bush,
Speaker 1: who he think George W. Bush, who he thinks is
Speaker 1: a hero, presumably based on his feelings about Lynne Cheney.
Speaker 1: He like the audience for that, Like the feedback that
Speaker 1: he's getting is like, whoa cool And that makes total
Speaker 1: sense because like there was a fascist coup like around
Speaker 1: the time that Hitler was rising to power in the
Speaker 1: United States by the richest people to try and like
Speaker 1: have a fascist overthrow of the US government, and like
Speaker 1: that that hasn't gone away, Like those are still the
Speaker 1: richest people in the country. Sure, they're still the most
Speaker 1: powerful people. It's just they've become more and more powerful,
Speaker 1: and it's becoming like invisible because they're the ones who
Speaker 1: are like writing for the fucking Atlantic. So it's just
Speaker 1: like that becomes a thing that we just accept and
Speaker 1: get like chided and called morons for thinking is fucking weird,
Speaker 1: you know, it's that's what a rhetorically powerful way to
Speaker 1: end that defense of like, but my friends would know otherwise,
Speaker 1: and that's why they're my friends because they are not morons.
Speaker 1: So again, that's what's so funny. He's like you for
Speaker 1: all this like fucking posturing and bloviating you're doing in
Speaker 1: this piece, you just end it. You're basically the whole
Speaker 1: thrust of the pieces. Y'all are just morons because y'all
Speaker 1: don't know him. Yeah, that's not really a good defense
Speaker 1: if you're you're actually trying to assuage people's concerns about
Speaker 1: this fucking guy. I feel like the well he has
Speaker 1: black and Jewish friends is kind of like doing a
Speaker 1: lot of work, because I think once you get to
Speaker 1: the point of like, I, you know, my black friends
Speaker 1: don't care that I have like Hitler shit sitting around,
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, because all you any of you want,
Speaker 1: all of any of your friends want is like the
Speaker 1: accumulation of power, like nobody cares. And to me, it's
Speaker 1: like that's like a power play, right that you have
Speaker 1: like Hitler shit up and it doesn't it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to hide it. And it's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have this little closet over here behind a bookshelf
Speaker 1: that I put all my Hitler stuff in because I
Speaker 1: don't want anybody to see it when I'm throwing my party,
Speaker 1: Like he has it out because he's like making a
Speaker 1: statement about the fact that like social norms don't apply
Speaker 1: to him, and that's why we are being called idiots
Speaker 1: for going like what what is going on? Like why
Speaker 1: would you have this shit in like out and public
Speaker 1: and something that you're proud of. And it's like they
Speaker 1: really billionaires, you know, they are the law like legally
Speaker 1: and socially and all of the other ways. Like whatever
Speaker 1: they do is fine because no one can touch them.
Speaker 1: And I think that, Yeah, it's just like when you're
Speaker 1: talking about people who are trying to accumulate power, like
Speaker 1: they have more in common with each other than like
Speaker 1: they do with any of us or anybody else who's
Speaker 1: like part of who might otherwise be like part of
Speaker 1: your like socioeconomic or racial or ethnic group right where
Speaker 1: it's like I don't see race, I just see sadistic plutocrats. Right,
Speaker 1: that's it. That's all we are. We've distilled it all
Speaker 1: down to our one common thing and that's that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they have what they drive and work in one
Speaker 1: of the biggest into trees in the United States that
Speaker 1: is invisible to everybody except them and the people who
Speaker 1: work for them, which is like the protection of private wealth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like just finding different ways to invest their billions and
Speaker 1: billions and billions of Jack, No, unburdening them billions of
Speaker 1: inherited Well, I didn't even want this shit, jack. That's
Speaker 1: how this writer uses his imagination, is sitting around thinking
Speaker 1: about what he would do to unburden himself. Did he
Speaker 1: see see Harlan Crowe on this like when it got
Speaker 1: published and he's like, you see that as the next
Speaker 1: part you're back? Yeah, exactly, I got you, fam, I
Speaker 1: got you. Could you lift the restraining order? Now that
Speaker 1: I've written this, I promise I'll stop looking through the gates.
Speaker 1: I want those canapes. I'm sorry. Cannapais, cannapaise, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm working on that. I want to be like you,
Speaker 1: a cultured person. Oh my gosh. This also for me
Speaker 1: really goes back to all the day that shows like
Speaker 1: more money you have, the less empathy you have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like they're so disconnected from reality and like other people
Speaker 1: being people. And I mean, I assume I don't think
Speaker 1: that like Clarence Thomas is rich rich, like this Harlan
Speaker 1: Crowe asshole, but the power thing still fucks with your
Speaker 1: head and like folks, with your ability to empathize. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that like both of them are just
Speaker 1: like very clear examples of yeah, what the data is
Speaker 1: showing us, right, and then not a billionaire his real
Speaker 1: name is Clarence's right, Clancy Clancy can't be a billionaire
Speaker 1: or come on now, But yeah, it is just like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a point where you just sort of
Speaker 1: crossed the rubicon of reality and you're like, sorry, folks,
Speaker 1: I'm over here now, and actually all you people are
Speaker 1: actually haters and I'm going to legislate you the fuck off.
Speaker 1: The planet's kind of where we're at now. And guess what,
Speaker 1: all my homies are rich and we can manipulate many
Speaker 1: things with this money. But yeah, it's easier to just
Speaker 1: be like just the whole like, what was it, what's
Speaker 1: the title of it. It's like he's collecting a Nazi.
Speaker 1: Does not make him a Nazi or whatever? The fuck
Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas's billionaire friend is no Nazi. M you're carrying
Speaker 1: water for a dude who doesn't know your name. Also,
Speaker 1: by the way, like yeah, pretty weird. You're simping for
Speaker 1: a billionaire who didn't even want you at his party. Hey, Harlan,
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's that insufferable Graham again. What is he doing?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he has silver paint all over
Speaker 1: his mouth and he keeps reading out of a paper bag.
Speaker 1: By the way, his big article on Richard Spencer. Richard
Speaker 1: Spencer is a troll and an icon for white supremacists.
Speaker 1: He was also my high school classmate. Is the subhead
Speaker 1: of the titles The New York Times as a person.
Speaker 1: The title is his comp that's the title of no no,
Speaker 1: oh my yeah. And it has like it has a
Speaker 1: black and white photograph of Richard Spencer. That's like kind
Speaker 1: of I don't know, it's very humanizing, it's interesting. Good
Speaker 1: for them, good for them? Yeah, I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: I'm for the people that are aspiring millionaires and billionaires.
Speaker 1: I read the Atlantic. I'm sure this is a nice
Speaker 1: salve for them. Yeah, but I can buy all the
Speaker 1: Nazi should I want. Yeah, I'm just trying to going
Speaker 1: to tell me that the Atlantic is gonna tell everybody
Speaker 1: else that they're fucking morons if they judge me for
Speaker 1: it exactly. Oh really, Oh I'm a Nazi. Oh have
Speaker 1: you read a little piece by Graham Wood in the
Speaker 1: Atlantic that would say otherwise? And it's gonna be like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you talking about? Huh? Just read it. Oh,
Speaker 1: my friends know I'm not a Nazi. I'm just in
Speaker 1: the Nazi stuff, like in a really really normal way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it is really like unless there's forcible legislation to
Speaker 1: reign billionaires in, there has been in the past and
Speaker 1: stopped being during our lifetime, like for basically the past
Speaker 1: like thirty years. Right. They like because to your point,
Speaker 1: Tory like that that study of billionaires of that's like
Speaker 1: the richer you are, the less empathy you have. That's
Speaker 1: not necessarily because like money makes you less empathetic. It's
Speaker 1: that people without empathy are better at accumulating money. The
Speaker 1: amount of wealth required and like the amount of exploitation
Speaker 1: required to do that. Like, yeah, those specific people, it's
Speaker 1: probably like but two things feeding Like I'm sure the
Speaker 1: money doesn't help once you're already somebody who has been
Speaker 1: predatory enough to accumulate that much wealth. But what we
Speaker 1: are just feeding them into the most influential positions in
Speaker 1: our civilization and like that it's just going to keep
Speaker 1: getting worse until something is done about it to bring
Speaker 1: them in and culture at a cultural level, people start
Speaker 1: just automatically discounting everything that comes out of their mouths
Speaker 1: and everything that comes out of the mouths of people
Speaker 1: who are scenting for them. Just call them sadistic plutocrats.
Speaker 1: Let's not call them billionaires. We don't need we don't
Speaker 1: have to sign like, well how much wealth you're just
Speaker 1: you're a sadistic plutocrat. And I'm sure another thing that
Speaker 1: prevents them from like being like am I the baddie
Speaker 1: is like our culture already deifies these people in the
Speaker 1: form of the job creator, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And like, so for them, they're like, actually, I'm God,
Speaker 1: so I'm actually creating jobs. I'm not exploiting labor. I'm
Speaker 1: creating jobs, and I and I put my head, I
Speaker 1: rest my head at night on my third Reich sheets
Speaker 1: and I read a sleep really wonderfully because I know
Speaker 1: I've created jobs. I'm not I'm not exploiting labor. Okay,
Speaker 1: the needlework, the thread count like it really can't be.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I hate to keep harping on this, but
Speaker 1: this is almost a hundred years old, and the quality
Speaker 1: is better than anything that you fire right now. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying they don't make stuff like they used to. Okay,
Speaker 1: you say you hate to keep harping on it, but
Speaker 1: it's all you've talked about since we got here. Harbor,
Speaker 1: just saying this ship is durable, Okay, sucking the fucking
Speaker 1: ninety year old hat man. Look at it, looks like
Speaker 1: looks brand new, looks brand new. The fuer Ward Tori good,
Speaker 1: I'm just laughing at the fuer Ward Warren fer worn.
Speaker 1: These are my air fuer ones that I got sneakers.
Speaker 1: These aren't even around then. Yeah, I had Phil Knight
Speaker 1: makeup hair custom Oh no, oh no, Well, Tor, is
Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you? Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff? I am still on
Speaker 1: the sinking boat. That is Twitter at Tory Glass and
Speaker 1: at White Homework, and I am on Instagram at White
Speaker 1: Homework talking a lot about, like I said, poverty and
Speaker 1: the impacts that that has on people's nervous systems, among
Speaker 1: you know, all the other anti racist, social justicey things
Speaker 1: that I am that I talk about just generally. And
Speaker 1: my website is prey last dot com. So yeah, hit
Speaker 1: me up. What's hang out? Is there a work immediate
Speaker 1: that you've been enjoying I have. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to pronounce the name of this person. So this movie
Speaker 1: that's coming out, what is it? Chevalier? Am I doing that? Right?
Speaker 1: I don't know about this black kid who's like a
Speaker 1: French violinist. It's based on a true story. Sorry if
Speaker 1: I butcher that I don't speak French. And so anyway,
Speaker 1: there's all these racists who are crying and like in
Speaker 1: their fields because they're like, how are you making a
Speaker 1: story about a black kid who lives in Paris and
Speaker 1: like the seventeen hundreds? This is so offensive to me.
Speaker 1: This must be fiction. And anyway, somebody were someone who
Speaker 1: replied to the to the trailer of the film, and
Speaker 1: it was like, remember when the anti woke red pill
Speaker 1: crowd said, why don't you just make stories about black
Speaker 1: people instead of making white characters black and like crying about.
Speaker 1: He's like, that's not what they wanted either. It's almost
Speaker 1: as if they don't care about history. One could even
Speaker 1: think they're just racist. No way. I was like, yes, chance,
Speaker 1: they're all the like, they're just all in their feels
Speaker 1: about like a real person and a real thing that
Speaker 1: actually happened. And uh, I was like, but you don't
Speaker 1: like black elves, but you also don't like black people
Speaker 1: existing in history. Like, just just admit you don't like
Speaker 1: black people. This is not that difficult. I don't want
Speaker 1: to see them, and I don't want I certainly don't
Speaker 1: want to hear them laughing in a restaurant. I hate that.
Speaker 1: I hate on a train. Oh my god, what are
Speaker 1: they like? What's so funny? Excuse me? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: they're running around the restaurant. They're running around. Yeah. My
Speaker 1: reply to the video or the trailer was, oh, this
Speaker 1: looks fascinating. Lest to Alessandro do Medici next, because I
Speaker 1: don't think most people know that, like the Duke of
Speaker 1: fucking Florence was a black man. Wow, So I was
Speaker 1: just trolling. I was like, yeah, let's see this guy next. Absolutely, Miles,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? What's the tweet or workup
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying. You can find me on Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also find Jack and
Speaker 1: I on the latest episode of Moss Jack on mat
Speaker 1: Blues talking about the NBA Playoffs playing tournament, and also
Speaker 1: for twenty Day Fiance with Sophie Alexandra. I got actually
Speaker 1: two tweets. Actually, don't one? What am I saying? Tim
Speaker 1: Platt at Timothy Platt tweeted, Count Dracula um one, I
Speaker 1: think bad. Yeah, yes, that's what I'm I'm back for
Speaker 1: those little good one liners that Twitter has, and then
Speaker 1: I'm immediately they're still They're still there, They're still there.
Speaker 1: I'm still still here for him. Molly Mary O'Brien tweeted,
Speaker 1: if you aren't down to clown, get the hell out
Speaker 1: of my tiny car. And I think that's just a
Speaker 1: good tattoo in line with some fallout boilers we talked
Speaker 1: about actually tattoo worthy. You can find me on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter
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Speaker 1: foot no One the information that we talked about in
Speaker 1: today his episode, as well as a song that we
Speaker 1: think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, what's the song that
Speaker 1: we think people? Oh? Man, I was so this this
Speaker 1: producer I really liked, Like I was so into when
Speaker 1: I was working in politics. His name was us h
Speaker 1: U E. S S. And I used to download all
Speaker 1: this shit on band camp and then like he kind
Speaker 1: of fell off like ten years ago and stopped making
Speaker 1: music and outside the fuck, you know, like you always
Speaker 1: kind of wonder what happened those artists. He just started
Speaker 1: posting again on his SoundCloud, and I'm like, oh, I'm back,
Speaker 1: but I want to just play one of the tracks
Speaker 1: that I really like on his SoundCloud from this thirteen
Speaker 1: years ago. It's a remix of the track Sun by Caribou,
Speaker 1: but it's the US remix h U E. S S.
Speaker 1: So it's on SoundCloud. But it's just like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just feels it's it's very nostalgic for me when
Speaker 1: I was really into like my beat Maker era, So
Speaker 1: check that out. Sign the US remix. All right, well,
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