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Speaker 1: Mark Class, founder of Class Kids Foundation who has devoted

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Speaker 1: not able to have a post relationship with a female

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Speaker 1: of his own age, so he needs to force someone

427
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: to be with him and to meet those ugly needs

428
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: that he has. So what he's done is he has

429
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: taken a captain who has no choice because it's do

430
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: this or I'll kill you. Do this, or I'll beat you.

431
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: Do this or I'll starve you. And so you know,

432
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: the motive is that he literally just wants a plaything.

433
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: It is a horrible reality, but it is truth. I mean,

434
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: and when you look at it statistically, Vincent Hill, I

435
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: agree with what Holly said. Vincent Hill, a former cop

436
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: turned PI and now author. When you look you know

437
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: what Vincent hold on. Let me go to Alicia. Alicia

438
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: Kasey Kevitch is a child kidnap and sex assault survivor.

439
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: She is now a tireless advocate and founder of the

440
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: Alicia Project. Alicia, you're the one that first said that

441
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: commented on the ugly things said online about this girl.

442
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: I know, I mean it hurts me. I read the

443
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: day my children read all the horrible stuff written about

444
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: me online. Every case I ever tried has been picked

445
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: apart and is cast in the worst light. Everything is

446
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: nefarious and evil and awful. Why do people do that?

447
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, but let me ask you this, Alicia,

448
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: how has it affected you all thig people. A reason

449
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 1: that people do that is because they think now that

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00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: they own the story, that they've watched it like it's

451
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: a movie, and now they deserve the ending. They deserve

452
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: to know all the loopholes, they deserve to know everything.

453
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: And also they just like to rile people up. And

454
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: it's one of the most frustrating things. And when it

455
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: comes to blaming her, I just want to point out,

456
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: because people forget this, that he murdered her parents, so

457
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: that when he said I'm going to kill you, there

458
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: was no oh, maybe he won't. The threat was real,

459
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: so her to escape was so brave and it's so

460
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: terrible to read those comments. I always want you don't

461
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: see the troll, but I always want to comment back

462
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: and support, and that's not the way to do it.

463
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: We have to just support her by either being kind

464
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: and joining in the celebration. Alicia, and you were there,

465
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: you were in her shoes. You're convinced your kidnapper was

466
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: going to kill you that afternoon, after having you chained

467
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: up and bound and unable to escape. You knew your

468
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: life was ending that day. I did. And he kidnapped

469
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: her for a reason, but eventually his games are going

470
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: to have to come to an end. He was going

471
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: to have to kill her. There there just unreal, And

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00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: that's what we've been waiting for free day, eight days

473
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: to come. I mean, every day you expect something, but

474
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: then it seems like when you finally a day goes

475
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: by and you're not really expecting anything in an awesome bam.

476
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we got our false information this afternoon and

477
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: then to have within hours later the most amazing news

478
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: we can possibly get. I mean, it's a complete opposite

479
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: of what we were feeling. Just a diego. It's crazy,

480
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: great emotions that you can't explain. It's just it's unreal. Man.

481
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: You're hearing Jamie Claus's uncle Steve Niberg telling Fox Nines

482
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: Paul Bloom about what a difference one day makes. Yesterday,

483
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: they were in the depths of despair, not giving up,

484
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: but so desolate about the kidnap of thirteen year old

485
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: Jamie Claus, the murder of her mom and dad, and

486
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: now she is alive. In response to what Alicia Kausea

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00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: Kevitch was telling us a kidnaped survivor as a child

488
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Speaker 1: founder of Alicia Project Mark Class Founder Class Kids Foundation,

489
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: let me point out that front door, while it wasn't

490
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: burglarized with it like a crowbar, it was kicked in.

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00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: According to sources, there is nothing, Nancy that a child

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00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: can do to stop a determined predator. There's absolutely nothing.

493
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: They're overpowered in every way, shape and form, which is

494
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: why it's up to us, once we identify who these

495
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: individuals are, to protect the kids and the rest of

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00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: the vulnerable citizens from these individuals. They're evil to the core.

497
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: They've got no redeeming qualities, and we know that the

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00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: ultimate outcome, as Alicia just mentioned, is going to be deaf.

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00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: So we have to protect kids from these characters if

500
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: and when we're able to identify who they are. They're big,

501
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: they're mean, they're evil, and they're determined. So what else

502
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: can one do? You know? This is what we know

503
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: late last nine, investigators blocking off all the streets leading

504
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: to a cabin there at south at Eau Claire Acres Circle,

505
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: and they combed everything for evidence the residents believed to

506
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: be that of a twenty one year old male. We

507
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: now believe he is being held in the Douglas County jail.

508
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Not getting any more details overnight, but I wonder what

509
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: they're doing in that cabin. To Dave Max, syndicated talk

510
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: show host, we know that there is a very important

511
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: press conference about to occur, tell me about it at

512
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: that time. We're going to hear more about what's transpired

513
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: over the last eighty seven days, because, as you mentioned,

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00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: they gave out very little information her after she was

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00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: actually found alive. A matter of fact, yesterday afternoon we

516
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: had a report that was called false that the sheriff said, Nope,

517
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: it's not true, we didn't find her, and then a

518
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 1: couple hours later they announced, yes, we have and it

519
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: is Jamie. But they are withholding almost all the information.

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00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: It'll all come out later on this morning and over

521
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: the ensuing days, we expect to know who they have

522
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: in custody. We know it's the twenty one year old man.

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00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: We expect to find out if they were in that

524
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: cabin for the entire time. As Jamie indicated, she felt

525
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: like she had been in that cabin the entire time,

526
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: and we'll find out some more particulars about the actual

527
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: murder scene and what happened the night she was taken

528
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: straight out to Vincent Hill, PI and author of Playbook

529
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: to a Murder. We know that that cabin, that remote

530
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: cabin there in a clear about eighty miles from Minneapolis.

531
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: To get a mental image of where this is big

532
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: hunting fishing area. What are they doing inside that cabin

533
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: right now, still cordoned off, Nancy. They're going through that

534
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: with a fine tooth comb. They're looking for any type

535
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: of evidence physical. They're taking pictures everything inside that home.

536
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: Plus they want to know what is there someone else

537
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: inside that cabin outside of this twenty one year old

538
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: There could have been someone else, Nancy. So they're checking

539
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: all of that to mark class the feelings her family

540
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: is going through right now. Explain what you went through, well, Nancy.

541
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: I was living in fair and anger for the entire

542
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: sixty five days that my daughter was missing, But overriding

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00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: all of that, I had hope. I had hoped that

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00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: we would find her and we would be able to

545
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: bring her home alive. And as long as hope exists,

546
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: there's always a chance that the child will be found

547
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: and will come home alive. But it becomes more and

548
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: more difficult as time goes on to be able to

549
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: hold on to that hope. So I think when you

550
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: get to a point where the child has been gone

551
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: three months, four months, something like that, that you know,

552
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: you go from a different status. You go from a

553
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: search to trying to grasp the gold ring to find

554
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: the miracle in the event. And that's what happened here.

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00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: And I can only imagine the sense of relief that

556
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: exists within that only now and their sense of goodwill

557
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: towards humanity for the simple fact that so many people

558
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: supported this effort and that it was successfully resolved. Let's

559
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: take a listen now to the press or with law

560
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: enforcement on the latest with Jamie Class. For rady eight days,

561
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: I have stood before you and said we would work

562
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: tiresly to bring Jamie Class home. Today I can report

563
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: we have done just that. At this moment, Jamie is

564
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: being in the comforting embrace of law enforcement as the

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00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: investigation in her three month or deal ensues. Eighty eight

566
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: days ago, we stood before you speaking about the unthinkable

567
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: tragedy and asked you to help us find thirteen year

568
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: old Jamie Class. Last night, our collective promise was fulfilled

569
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: with Jamie's safe recovery, Jamie's faith safe in the family's

570
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: requesting that you please respect their privacy at this extremely

571
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: emotional time. I'm now going to bring up Sheriff Tom Dolbeck,

572
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: the Douglas County Sheriff, and he'll address this part of

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00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: the incident. My agency received a nine one one call

574
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: about four thirty yesterday afternoon from an individual who was

575
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: out walking her dog said she was approached by a

576
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: young female claiming to be Jamie Class. This lady immediately

577
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: went to a nearby house, notified that neighbor of the claim,

578
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: and this neighbor called nine one one, and my deputies

579
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: responded en mass immediately and identified Jamie as the person

580
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: that approached the neighbor, took control of her, in possession

581
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: of her and put her in safe keeping, and a

582
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: short time later, one of my patrol sergeants happened to

583
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: find a vehicle that matched the description that Jamie gave.

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00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: My deputies of the suspect and pulled the vehicle over

585
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: her and took the suspect and custody at that time.

586
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: Beyond that, Jamie was taken to a local hospital up

587
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: in the lou Superior area where she was looked over

588
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: and examined, and she was held overnight for observation, and

589
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: the suspect was interviewed and subsequently brought back down here

590
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: to Baron call. Thank you Sheriff Dalvick, and thank your

591
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: deputies for the work that they helped in this case.

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00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: The suspect arrested, it was arrested is currently being held

593
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: in the Baron County Jail. That suspect is Jake Thomas

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00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: Patterson p A T T E R. S O N.

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Speaker 1: He is twenty one years old from Gordon, Wisconsin. He

596
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: is currently being held on two counts a first degree

597
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: intentional homicide for the murder of Jamie's parents and one

598
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: count of kidnapping. We do plan a four pm media

599
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: update with more details to be released at that time.

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00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: Right here, as you heard the charges of the suspect.

601
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: The suspect is being charged with kidnapping. Jamie was taken

602
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: against her will and escape from a residence at which

603
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: she was being held and found help. We also do

604
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: not believe that this time that the subspect had any

605
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: contact with the family. We do believe Jamie was the

606
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: only target. I can tell you that the subject planned

607
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: his actions and took many proactive steps to hide his

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00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: identity from law enforcement and the general public or the

609
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: other about Jamie's to meet here, her condition in those

610
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: mounds where she volume, she looked like she's sound, life

611
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: and now description I can talk about now. Um, she

612
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: is good. She's been cleared from the hospital. As Sheriff

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00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: Delbeck said, there is a reunification process in place going

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00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: on right now that includes medical, mental evaluations, questioning by

615
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: detectives and FBI and DCI agents, and then reunification with family.

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00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: We do not know that this group behind me does

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00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: not have that information. We are this is a very

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00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: active and fluid case. We are serving search warrants right

619
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: at this moment in Gordon in other areas for vehicles

620
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: looking for evidence, and again that we hope the release

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00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: a lot more of that information. At four o'clock. Jamie

622
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: was the target. So what action, what contact did the

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00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: suspect happen? That's what we're trying to figure out now,

624
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: but we believe it was very um. We believe there's

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00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: really none no contact. Do you know what they I

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00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: don't know that. And now our prayers go on for

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Speaker 1: Jamie Class Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off, Getbye friend,