Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Hello there, Welcome to another episode up Serial
Speaker 2: Killers Presents bull Chat. Good cover up, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: The problem and this is a bull chat, believe it
Speaker 2: or not. We're here, we're here. We missed one week, two,
Speaker 2: two weeks in a row. No, we've missed two in
Speaker 2: the last Okay.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna make excuses, so we're not gonna go there.
Speaker 1: Did you pop your pimple in your ear? I don't know,
Speaker 1: I might have out check. Oh you did it? Hurts
Speaker 1: so bad? You did it? Not so good?
Speaker 2: It feels so much better when you pop an ear
Speaker 2: pimple hurts so good?
Speaker 1: Come on, babe, so good good. Sometimes I love don't
Speaker 1: feel like it should. I actually like that song.
Speaker 2: Today is Wednesday, May tenth, Yeah, five ten, five ten.
Speaker 2: You know what they say May tenth? What do they
Speaker 2: say about it?
Speaker 1: May tenth? Okay? That day? All right?
Speaker 2: Well, this this is a bull chat. This is a
Speaker 2: podcast where we just talk about the things. Yes, things,
Speaker 2: And this is what a stupid man box number four now?
Speaker 2: I mean, because the one that you just have me
Speaker 2: plug in didn't work so well? Okay, what well this
Speaker 2: is the new one. But I don't really get how
Speaker 2: the new roadcaster works. I'm trying to learn, but it's
Speaker 2: very confusing. I was telling Newman. It has a lot
Speaker 2: more buttons and it's less user friendly. If you push
Speaker 2: my chair down, I'm not going to be able to
Speaker 2: talk into the micro You're so much taller than I know. Well,
Speaker 2: maybe you should fix that, not me.
Speaker 1: How about that? That works? But now my legs don't
Speaker 1: go under the table.
Speaker 2: There's like an elementary school where they had a low
Speaker 2: thing and you couldn't get your feet underneath it. Then
Speaker 2: I ran through the sink because I wanted to wash
Speaker 2: the board and I broke my nose because I slipped
Speaker 2: on water with the big sponge. It's all flashbacks now
Speaker 2: because you made me raise my chair. Yeah, the plight
Speaker 2: of Scott, I just you know, everything is.
Speaker 1: Just against you.
Speaker 2: You know when the scissor would come out and they
Speaker 2: didn't have the lefty ones. We talked about that, and
Speaker 2: you know than the paste and the arts and crafts
Speaker 2: with the big paint jug gosh, forgot flashbacks. Flashbacks, Yes, flashbacks, flashbacks.
Speaker 2: Did you ever have a classroom that had a bathroom
Speaker 2: in it? My kindergarten class had a bathroom in it. No,
Speaker 2: we didn't have that, and the toilet was like down here.
Speaker 1: We went to.
Speaker 2: Catholic school for the bathrooms.
Speaker 1: For you.
Speaker 2: I went to Catholic school pretty up from and the
Speaker 2: one that I went to before I went to high school.
Speaker 2: They didn't even have a gym. It was a gym materia.
Speaker 2: They had a curtain that went across.
Speaker 1: And the tables that came out. That was it.
Speaker 2: The church had a granite fountain and all this other crap.
Speaker 2: But let me tell you something. We didn't have a gym.
Speaker 2: We didn't have air conditioning. We have a million and
Speaker 2: one things. But so explain to me because I don't know.
Speaker 2: Are the teachers nuns? No, they're not.
Speaker 1: I never.
Speaker 2: Uh. The only time I ever had someone like religious
Speaker 2: was in my high school and they had brothers who
Speaker 2: would teach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but couldn't. Shouldn't a Catholic school be like hardcore?
Speaker 2: No? Not for the most part. I mean it doesn't
Speaker 2: have to be. Is it like a ges thing at
Speaker 2: the beginning of every day? Instead of the pledge they
Speaker 2: do Jesus, we love you?
Speaker 1: No, you did both.
Speaker 2: And it was just like you would pray before each class.
Speaker 1: Is this thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do it right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, Father's Son, Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1: I just crossed myself.
Speaker 2: You did cross yourself. I think I went this way.
Speaker 2: I went the wrong way, though, so did.
Speaker 1: You were just touching a whole bunch of things. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I see people do that. And also with you, the.
Speaker 2: One that I never understood, and I have to say,
Speaker 2: was this one when you would do it like like
Speaker 2: you you do like a cross on the head, across
Speaker 2: I guess on the eyes, and then across on the mouth.
Speaker 2: I never got that, so I would just kind of
Speaker 2: like look around when it came to that part and
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, cool. I only did a church thing
Speaker 2: like once or twice. I had to go to some
Speaker 2: kids what do they call it the dipping? What do
Speaker 2: they call that dipping? A baptism?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And I don't know what to do because they and
Speaker 2: they say if you if you don't want to come up,
Speaker 2: you don't have to because I didn't know. I did
Speaker 2: the also with you, but I didn't eat the cracker
Speaker 2: or so you didn't receive the Eucharist. No, that's what
Speaker 2: it's called. No, the cracker is Eucharist. Uh, it's the
Speaker 2: Eucharistbisco make those nibisco does not, but actually there is.
Speaker 2: I saw a video where the company that makes those
Speaker 2: has like a monopoly on like the religious cracker market.
Speaker 2: So I feel like I'm going to make a startup
Speaker 2: that's a disruptor to this. There should just be a
Speaker 2: company like Nibisco to just make Jesus crackers and they's
Speaker 2: just be in the supermarket. Honestly, Bisco probably owns like
Speaker 2: a subsidiary of that company and something Jesus. You will
Speaker 2: loo get to it enough and they're like, oh wow,
Speaker 2: this company makes like ten million dollars a year just
Speaker 2: selling well, because it probably has to be some sort
Speaker 2: of biscuit company that makes it. That's not just sure,
Speaker 2: it's not just a Jesus crackery factory manhouse. They used
Speaker 2: to do the bread. They used to do the bread,
Speaker 2: and I loved the bread.
Speaker 1: What's the bread?
Speaker 2: So the bread can also be like the the the.
Speaker 1: Body of Christ.
Speaker 2: Yes, But then I don't know why, but it was
Speaker 2: like they just stopped doing it at our church. So
Speaker 2: then it was like then you just got the cracker.
Speaker 2: And I was like, but I want the bread because
Speaker 2: the bread and the wine paired really well together. And
Speaker 2: no it wasn't. But I mean the cracker gets like
Speaker 2: very dry, very quick. They should have Jesus butter and
Speaker 2: you should be able to please. What now you're entering sacrilege?
Speaker 2: Why you don't spread him all over?
Speaker 1: Why not you drink him?
Speaker 2: Okay, you drink eat body in the blood here, spread Jesus.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think I then eat them. Okay, what happened? Well, okay,
Speaker 1: I think we're okay. Oh right, I don't see any
Speaker 1: lightning or anything. Yet. Something will happen. There's something will
Speaker 1: really electrocuted.
Speaker 2: In here when this episode for some reason, Oh that's
Speaker 2: Jesus calling Jesus just arrived. But yeah, we stopped going
Speaker 2: to church pretty much after like fourth or fifth grade.
Speaker 2: But then we went to Catholic school, so then you
Speaker 2: would go to Mass every month, like once a month.
Speaker 1: I get it, some people are hardcore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just uh, we stopped going and then the
Speaker 2: once a month, and I swear on this it was
Speaker 2: like my worst nightmare ever because like I would look
Speaker 2: around and you'd be seated with all the other classes, right,
Speaker 2: so then you'd be with like kindergarteners and like seventh
Speaker 2: graders and all these other classes, and without fail, the kindergarteners.
Speaker 2: One of them would always puke at mass. Every time
Speaker 2: you have I would always be like looking around like
Speaker 2: it was my word. I was CIA surveillance. I was like,
Speaker 2: who's puke it today?
Speaker 1: And why kids from eating the crash?
Speaker 2: I have no no, because you had to be in
Speaker 2: second grade or higher. But like little kids, I don't know,
Speaker 2: nobody understands why. In like kindergarten, there's always that one
Speaker 2: kid who's like sitting there is like.
Speaker 1: And then here comes Smedley with the sawdust. Yes, every time.
Speaker 1: He always terrified me so much.
Speaker 2: Sley's not a good janitor. Name Smithley. I have a tissue, please,
Speaker 2: my nose is dripping, But yeah, that happened pretty much,
Speaker 2: thanks every time. So I would just be anxious. What
Speaker 2: percentage of Catholic school is actually Catholic stuff? I mean
Speaker 2: you have a religion class. Yeah, that's and then you
Speaker 2: pray and that's about. Wow, you're so good at sports.
Speaker 2: You pretty much those two things. Carlo's like, what's the
Speaker 2: squirreling about? Yeah, I threw my tissue to the garbage
Speaker 2: can and I missed well anyway, So yeah, we had
Speaker 2: two classes religion class and then we had a mass
Speaker 2: once a month and then you just prayed.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 2: I kind of wish we could have done that because
Speaker 2: we had Hebrew School, which was three days a week
Speaker 2: and it was after regular school. So after regular school
Speaker 2: you had to go for two hours to Hebrew School
Speaker 2: and you get a home until it was dark. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like the hell yeah no, and it's Sunday too. We
Speaker 2: did not have that. It was all just built into one.
Speaker 2: I told you, I got thrown out and we got no,
Speaker 2: you didn't. We also got school ended early for us,
Speaker 2: so like we would always have at least two weeks
Speaker 2: on the public school for summer vacation. But I will say,
Speaker 2: my friends in public school they say certain things now
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I never learned that. Yeah, well they
Speaker 2: were learning like all this crazy stuff in like fourth
Speaker 2: and fifth grade, and yeah, it took us till like
Speaker 2: about six or seventh for that. I mean they really
Speaker 2: weren't class, you know, teaching about the et trog and
Speaker 2: the you love whatever that's those the thing. And like
Speaker 2: someone backed their chair into the wall, made a hole
Speaker 2: in the wall through the plaster, and we just started
Speaker 2: throwing Sylvanian family toys in there. So we had a
Speaker 2: whole world of Sylvanian Family in the Wall? What Sylvanian Family? Literally,
Speaker 2: you're just talking like I love when you say that,
Speaker 2: and it's like you're just talking to yourself. It's an
Speaker 2: eighties toy, along with like the Strawberry Shortcakes and the
Speaker 2: Munchichi Dog. It was Thenian fans.
Speaker 1: The Sylvanian Family.
Speaker 2: It didn't really take off that well, but if you
Speaker 2: could google it or look at it on YouTube, Sylvanian
Speaker 2: Family to collect and love and they were like these
Speaker 2: little characters, and we pretended that they were all living
Speaker 2: in the wall because there was a hole in the wall.
Speaker 2: And then I got suspended for throwing Sweet and Low
Speaker 2: packets out the window. I there's just so much in
Speaker 2: there that I feel to peel it apart. We need
Speaker 2: like a double header of a like a bull Chat episode,
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna keep moving.
Speaker 1: There's a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, do you know I went for a massage yesterday?
Speaker 1: You did? Well? Yeah, what part of your body?
Speaker 2: We're recording this on Tuesday, so I don't care. But
Speaker 2: so yesterday I said, it was like a treat myself day.
Speaker 2: All I wanted when we were on vacation a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago was a massage that's all I wanted.
Speaker 1: Like a full body.
Speaker 2: I just wanted a message, my back, just everything. It's
Speaker 2: just an hour of not doing anything, and that's all
Speaker 2: I wanted.
Speaker 1: Balls out the whole thing.
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I keep my underwear on. If I'm
Speaker 2: being honest, Well, I'm glad you're being honest. But says
Speaker 2: you who probably is like a never nude and shows
Speaker 2: up and is like, here's I'm just gonna lay it down.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not my back. I'm not a massage guy.
Speaker 1: I'm typically not.
Speaker 2: But I told you when I went on the cruise,
Speaker 2: I got the massage because you know, they offered it
Speaker 2: up and I'm like, all right, I'll take it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I said I did. It wasn't really. I was like,
Speaker 2: do you do underwear?
Speaker 1: No underwear? She's like want whatever you want? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so what did you do? I was like.
Speaker 2: Free balling whatever took him out. But then I was nervous,
Speaker 2: you know, because I didn't want to. I was scared
Speaker 2: to turn over. You know when she what well, because
Speaker 2: you know when she's like, all right, turnover. I told
Speaker 2: this story on the air. Is it like I have
Speaker 2: that one person that I think of, So you know
Speaker 2: like that doesn't happen, you know, And so when I
Speaker 2: knew that the back was nearing the end, I was
Speaker 2: thinking of that person a lot, so I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: a problem when I turned over. Well, I have to
Speaker 2: say what, I just kept my underwear on because I
Speaker 2: just knew I just wanted my back massage the crap
Speaker 2: out of so I went. I treated myself to that,
Speaker 2: did some hot yoga afterwards. It was literally the perfect day.
Speaker 2: And I have never done a self care day. I've
Speaker 2: never even been someone even say self care day. I
Speaker 2: always thought it was stupid. But I really got myself
Speaker 2: a massage, I saved some time for myself, and I
Speaker 2: really had like the best day ever.
Speaker 1: Good for you. Is there a picture of you with
Speaker 1: like cucumber slices on your eyes?
Speaker 2: No, because it was deep tissue. So if anything, it
Speaker 2: was just me. I don't say that. I don't like that,
Speaker 2: so she no, I don't like it. Here, No, I
Speaker 2: don't like it. They gave me like the baby massage,
Speaker 2: so they sweet it down. They're like, please, you found
Speaker 2: out that that's a Swedish massage. To me, I always
Speaker 2: thought Swedish people, I don't know. I just pictured like boo.
Speaker 2: They like it hard and they get I don't know
Speaker 2: they get in there, but no deep tissues the one
Speaker 2: you gotta deal. So I did it deep tissue massage
Speaker 2: and it was transform a take glad for you, because
Speaker 2: it hurts me and I wind up hurting after the fact.
Speaker 2: I'm like this good pain. No it's not. The definition
Speaker 2: of pain is not good. It is No, there's no
Speaker 2: good exercise. The reason why you feel sore afterwards is
Speaker 2: because your body is like rebuilding itself. You have to
Speaker 2: have pain to like get your game.
Speaker 1: But it's not good pain. Good pain, no pain. No
Speaker 1: one's saying it's good pain you did.
Speaker 2: I'm saying it's good that you have the pain.
Speaker 1: That's who pleasure, not pain. But if all workouts were.
Speaker 2: Pleasure and then you just walked around afterwards like yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it can't work out.
Speaker 1: I get it, But you just said there was good pain,
Speaker 1: and I don't believe there is. It is because it
Speaker 1: has the good results. Look at that ZiT on my arm.
Speaker 2: I have never seen like an arm pimple It hurts
Speaker 2: so bad and I put my arm like on it,
Speaker 2: an arm rest in it. Whatever, Why don't you pop it? Hurt. No,
Speaker 2: I don't pop them. When they're ready to go, they go.
Speaker 2: That's the body just doing it. What can't relate the
Speaker 2: minute I see when I'm like get out of here,
Speaker 2: and then I like scratch my face up and I
Speaker 2: look terror right, that's scars. You got scars everywhere. The
Speaker 2: scars to You're beautiful, but there's scars. Nonetheless, they're under
Speaker 2: your propicia. Oh okay, No, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: Rip off of the century didn't work so well, did it?
Speaker 2: It didn't and it makes me sad. But I will
Speaker 2: say I now have one follicle. One out of all
Speaker 2: this cream that I've been using now for like two
Speaker 2: three months, I have one follicle on the patch now,
Speaker 2: and it's so stupid looking because everything it's like a
Speaker 2: floating Did you see Foe?
Speaker 1: Do you remember haushy poor? Why would I know what
Speaker 1: hashy pour is? What is hashy poor?
Speaker 2: Before the age of Instagram and Facebook ads, there were
Speaker 2: infomercials on TV constantly. I mean there's still some, but
Speaker 2: I mean they were like they were rampant, and there
Speaker 2: was this this British guy who sold this hashypoor cream
Speaker 2: and it would just make everything disappear like that. There
Speaker 2: would be a bowl of ink and he would put
Speaker 2: this shit in there and all of a sudden, the
Speaker 2: water would be clear. And it was the biggest scam ever.
Speaker 2: So I bought like a six pack of it because
Speaker 2: Hashi poor clean everything. I wish I wish I had
Speaker 2: any idea how to spell it. You could actually look
Speaker 2: up the infomercial it was. It was this guy like that.
Speaker 2: He did so many different infomercial like he was the
Speaker 2: famous infomercial guy in the in the late eighties, early nineties.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I wish I could explain it better.
Speaker 2: Hashi pour cream on YouTube. I'm no, it's like an
Speaker 2: old old British dude. Well the way that I'm spelling it,
Speaker 2: I feel like, is it Hashi or hush It's hushy, hushy,
Speaker 2: hushy poor hushy. I don't know why I remember that.
Speaker 2: I just remember ordering it. I was like, mah, this
Speaker 2: is so cool. Look at this. It gets the stains out,
Speaker 2: you know. Like there'd be like a white sofa with
Speaker 2: like with tar on it and he would just rub
Speaker 2: this cream on it and it would magically go away.
Speaker 1: Was Faara faucet in the commercial.
Speaker 2: No, it was this, this skinny British dude that you
Speaker 2: could probably kick his ass. Usually the minute I searched
Speaker 2: something that you mentioned, I can find it. But hushi
Speaker 2: pour is basically impossible to find. Yeah, I just don't
Speaker 2: I don't know how to spell it at all. Hashi
Speaker 2: for commercial. Yeah, let's see Amazing Discoveries.
Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds that sounds possible. HP nine thousand, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're getting close.
Speaker 2: I don't know, cream infomercial guy.
Speaker 1: Oh is this it? Yes, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: Amazing Discoveries, right, HP nine thousand, ninety Yeah, but it
Speaker 2: was called hashi for you.
Speaker 1: Look, okay, we're gonna show the video discover how to
Speaker 1: make people can't hear it? They could hear, they can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, so it's called HP nine thousand.
Speaker 1: Mike Levy would bring this guy up. Yeah, he was like,
Speaker 1: he reminds me of the nook. Keep it on.
Speaker 2: He reminds me of the supermarket sweep guy. Wait till
Speaker 2: the British guy comes out. We'll get back to this
Speaker 2: after this break.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and we're back. Okay, we're back.
Speaker 2: Hush pour. Yes, it must have been too hard for
Speaker 2: them to pronounce so they change it to HP because
Speaker 2: they fast forward to the guy, the British dude.
Speaker 1: He comes running out okay, like he's on a game show.
Speaker 2: Me. Yes, yes, I am shocked how well he remembered
Speaker 2: this conversion.
Speaker 3: Yes, looks like a surf English smurff.
Speaker 1: Girls, girls working in.
Speaker 3: Ares work with that they used these days.
Speaker 2: Anyway, a motor anyway, guys would be the anyway. That
Speaker 2: crap didn't work at all. It didn't work. It just
Speaker 2: made Wow, look at what Hashi por it is made
Speaker 2: worse it did. Yeah, it was terrible. It's the worst
Speaker 2: product ever. I am shocked. I just can't believe it
Speaker 2: was called HP nine because I guess nobody could pronounce
Speaker 2: it or spell, so they changed it to HP. Well, truly,
Speaker 2: when you were mentioning like Hashi Poor, I just kept
Speaker 2: looking it up and I'm like, what is this man
Speaker 2: talking about? It's it's It's really weird how certain things
Speaker 2: just stick in my brain, and that was one of them.
Speaker 2: And HP nine thousand replaces, Oh god, they really made
Speaker 2: some claims with this. Replaces scrub soft, scrub Comet, chlorox
Speaker 2: mop and glow Windex everything. I guarantee you that's the
Speaker 2: tubes of craft that they sell now, Oh, okay, it
Speaker 2: was called hasher Purr.
Speaker 1: Well, then when they pronounced it was s c h.
Speaker 2: E r p u r. Okay, hush hushy perr. It
Speaker 2: was haushy pour. That's how they pronounced it on TV. Anyway, Oh,
Speaker 2: we can call this number. Do you think it's still works?
Speaker 2: I really don't. I really don't hold up. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so you would buy. They claimed that this product would
Speaker 2: just just everything everything, Yeah, just vanish.
Speaker 1: Really yep, ink.
Speaker 2: Tar, motor, mechanic, motor mechanic oil, hair dye, food, coloring.
Speaker 2: It was like everything. But at the same time, was
Speaker 2: a cleaner.
Speaker 1: Yep, sharpie marker. No, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: It was really not a soap. He was just demonstrating
Speaker 2: on his hand like that how the grease would just
Speaker 2: go away. But if you could clean motor oil off
Speaker 2: your hands, then that's a cleaner.
Speaker 1: But it would just vanish. But no scam.
Speaker 2: Scam sounds like a big scam.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: All those overnight infomercials, Oh my god, there were so
Speaker 2: many of them. Yeah, Like I was like growing up
Speaker 2: in the age of infomercials. Yeah, like they were NonStop.
Speaker 2: They would buy huge like blocks of time. I just
Speaker 2: had the middle of the night magazines. I just remember,
Speaker 2: like zoo animals, the ones that had the different colors
Speaker 2: that you'd always see in your dentist or doctor's office.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one.
Speaker 2: They'd always be like, oh, get your zoo animal thing.
Speaker 2: And then we get pickles is great. I don't know
Speaker 2: what sweet pickles. We talked about the sweet pickles bus everything,
Speaker 2: sweet pickles bus everything. Yes, oh my god, the sweet
Speaker 2: pickles bus everything. We've talked about it before. Well maybe
Speaker 2: we did, like forty two weeks ago. But I'm sorry
Speaker 2: that the Andrew of today does not remember this.
Speaker 1: Of course you don't. We all know why.
Speaker 2: We all know why, you know. And then they had
Speaker 2: the We talked about how they had the cat in
Speaker 2: the hat books in the doctor's office, and there was
Speaker 2: the tear out cards in the middle. Yes, and you
Speaker 2: could send it away for free whatever the hell? Yes,
Speaker 2: and you get a free bag and Highlights magazine. Oh
Speaker 2: love Highlightsighlights. I actually still get Highlights, Uh sent to me. No,
Speaker 2: not the magazine. They like the pitch to buy it.
Speaker 2: You think about you just sitting home be the gay Highlights.
Speaker 1: No, I'll tell you. I used to.
Speaker 2: I used to get highlights for Cooper and I would
Speaker 2: love when it came they hit pictures. What was my favorite?
Speaker 2: Find this banana? You know there was like a list
Speaker 2: of like ten hidden there. You'd be like, I will
Speaker 2: find it a circle and.
Speaker 1: Then I'd ruin it for everyone.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: Well that was the problem with that.
Speaker 2: Like magazines in like doctors and dentist's office is that,
Speaker 2: like they leave them out there and it's community, right, ew.
Speaker 1: Says you.
Speaker 2: But I've learned a lot about your eating habits and
Speaker 2: how you eat things recently that when you say like
Speaker 2: a community magazine is ew, I saw you eat corn
Speaker 2: out of a tin last week before anybody else got
Speaker 2: the corn. You're scooping it with your chip, like oh
Speaker 2: mm everything. But yet you're the same person. Oh, community
Speaker 2: magazine standards.
Speaker 1: No, they can't touch that.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying I think that they plant them
Speaker 2: in doctor's office like that so they get covered in
Speaker 2: germs from all these sick people so they have more business.
Speaker 1: Okay, right, makes sense, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Well, you putting all your germs into the corn doesn't help.
Speaker 1: What kind of germs? I took a chip from the
Speaker 1: container and I picked corn up with it like salsa.
Speaker 2: If I did that and you watched me do that,
Speaker 2: you would have been like, dude, No, it was just
Speaker 2: saggy ball hands.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? It was a scooper.
Speaker 2: It was you don't drink from someone else's cureig And
Speaker 2: yet you're like mister class and fine etiquette with your
Speaker 2: pinky up.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't turn it out of a cure. Somebody
Speaker 1: dipped their balls in it, and yet you're like, oh.
Speaker 2: Chips out of it, putting your hands in hand jamming
Speaker 2: the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I took the one from the top. You
Speaker 1: don't how you supposed to? How are you supposed to.
Speaker 2: Take chips out of an open container? It wasn't like
Speaker 2: it was in a bag. It was a big All
Speaker 2: I'm saying is there's a plot hole. There's some plotholes
Speaker 2: to your logic. That's how I'm saying. Tell me how
Speaker 2: you're supposed to take chips out of an open container?
Speaker 2: How there's no scooper, there's no tongs. You could have
Speaker 2: gotten them. You could have gotten it.
Speaker 1: No, there's nothing.
Speaker 2: If you can deal with that, then you can deal
Speaker 2: with hand jamming.
Speaker 1: A No, yes, there was no hand. I didn't jam
Speaker 1: a hand. It's an open bag.
Speaker 2: I took the top chip with my finger and touched
Speaker 2: only you took the many chips that's the top. He
Speaker 2: went in there afterwards, and you still took chips.
Speaker 1: Right because I only touched what I took.
Speaker 2: You don't know that because by the time I go
Speaker 2: back in to take chips, I've already the first level
Speaker 2: could have been eliminated, and now.
Speaker 1: You're just touching it. Where's the theme song? What theme song?
Speaker 1: You said chips like fifteen times?
Speaker 2: Okay, your logic just has potholes, that's all I'm trying
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm full of holes. I'm Swiss cheese, Andrews.
Speaker 1: That's me. I actually dislike Swiss cheese.
Speaker 2: Litt. I love Swiss, and it's weird because you know,
Speaker 2: I like Swiss with lots of holes. The more holes
Speaker 2: the better. But if you think about it, you're getting
Speaker 2: less cheese the more holes there are. Like, I feel
Speaker 2: like I get jipped if I buy a package of
Speaker 2: Swiss cheese and there's no holes in it.
Speaker 1: But when you think about it, it's less cheese. Right.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I know you're right. All right, because
Speaker 2: I buy the little Cracker slices. Yeah, you know, the
Speaker 2: little the thing it's pre sliced, and I'm like, there's
Speaker 2: hardly any holes in this cheese. I just don't like
Speaker 2: Swiss im. I don't like Swiss. I love Swiss, I
Speaker 2: don't like Swiss, and I don't like blue. Oh, I
Speaker 2: hate blue blue cheese discussed. I hate blue cheese, I
Speaker 2: hate feta cheese, I hate any crumbles. Feta cheese is
Speaker 2: delicious and that's a sin. Same family though, Uh what
Speaker 2: crumble cheese.
Speaker 1: They're in the Crumbles family. Crumbles, yes, right, what is
Speaker 1: the Crumbles man? Now, I'm just picturing blue cheese and
Speaker 1: feta are in the same Crumples family.
Speaker 2: You don't remember cheese kids? Eighties toys, God, they were
Speaker 2: part of the Crumbles.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 2: For a honker a hunk a full of cheese, we
Speaker 2: did that, remember that was the eighties PSA. Yeah, then
Speaker 2: I still remember cheese in a can and that made
Speaker 2: me almost want to vomit. They still make it. They
Speaker 2: cannot do it.
Speaker 1: It's cheese product.
Speaker 2: It's just something about the texture of it just was
Speaker 2: so off putting to me, and the taste felt like
Speaker 2: I was just like an easy mac. It's fine because
Speaker 2: it mixes hime with the pasta and I can get
Speaker 2: over it. But just like straight from the canned cheese,
Speaker 2: I just can't. I was never a gouy cheese guy.
Speaker 2: It always had to be solid. I love no. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, brie is like the smell. Oh no, that's
Speaker 2: blue cheese. It's all it's bree too. Yeah, with that
Speaker 2: goo and then the you dip it in other goose.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, bree cheese, especially if it's melted. Oh
Speaker 2: my god. I like making bree bites. You get a
Speaker 2: little bit of dough, you roll it out and you
Speaker 2: put a piece of brea in there and you get
Speaker 2: some jam. Look, I'm not gonna yuck. You're yum because
Speaker 2: everybody likes different things. Yeah, I'm not a fan. That's fine,
Speaker 2: not a fan. You enjoy your your stinky cheese. You're
Speaker 2: stinky gooy che I'll never forget in the old in
Speaker 2: the old radio station, not even try back at the
Speaker 2: one before that. In Jersey City, there was a dude
Speaker 2: named Biggie wh worked in the promotions department.
Speaker 1: Loved him.
Speaker 2: We all we we like did crazy pranks on everybody.
Speaker 2: All the time. I have video the whole nine yards,
Speaker 2: you know, because that was I was that guy. And
Speaker 2: so one of these companies came up and brought all
Speaker 2: kinds of cheeses one morning because Elvis had praised cheeses
Speaker 2: that day, you know, and they brought all this stuff
Speaker 2: and there was a brie. You know it's in that
Speaker 2: paper whatever. So there was a brie and it was
Speaker 2: like half eaten. So we went and we pulled out
Speaker 2: his computer keyboard and underneath the thing went. We just
Speaker 2: stuck it on the bottom, oh for three days, and
Speaker 2: it's he came in on Monday.
Speaker 1: It smelled so bad. Okay, he had no idea where
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: I can't this is making me what to get sick?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: And then he pulled it off the bottom of his
Speaker 2: computers and he ran it, you remember, baldfree Gronni ran
Speaker 2: it to his office and just stuck in.
Speaker 1: Good times.
Speaker 2: I gotta show you the video, I really, you know what,
Speaker 2: I think that a good idea would be for me
Speaker 2: to take all these video clips from back in the
Speaker 2: day of all this crazy crap that we did around
Speaker 2: the ratation. Because I asked the chief engineer, he said,
Speaker 2: the statute of limitations has run out, so we can't
Speaker 2: get we can't get in trouble for things that we
Speaker 2: did in a building that we no longer own or occupy.
Speaker 2: So I want to start posting clips because I think
Speaker 2: that they would do very well. And now, back then,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, let's put him on YouTube. If
Speaker 2: we make little short TikTok things of all the ridiculous
Speaker 2: stuff that we did in the nineties and early two thousands,
Speaker 2: I think they'd be huge. I don't disagree, right, I'll
Speaker 2: get millions of views on that. All right, Well, we'll
Speaker 2: be right back right after this break again. There was
Speaker 2: no commercial there, There was there downs anyway, Actually they
Speaker 2: both were the same twice. Anyway, what I was going
Speaker 2: to say was I watched Inside Edition the other day. Yes,
Speaker 2: Deborah normal everything CBS.
Speaker 1: And it's not CBS. It's syndicated. Learn Oh so.
Speaker 2: Stupid Inside Edition syndicated, you fool. Anyway, it's so different
Speaker 2: than how our show could be on stations that are
Speaker 2: other than iHeart stations.
Speaker 1: True true true syndications. I learn about it, manager of manager.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me learn about Inside Edition syndication rates because
Speaker 2: I'm the operations manager of an iHeart Radio top forty station.
Speaker 1: But it's a syndicated show. You yeah, you should know
Speaker 1: how that works, but you should.
Speaker 2: Thanks to you go on normal Okay anyway, and the
Speaker 2: car affair what iovich okay back in the day? Great,
Speaker 2: you remember? Now, go ahead, I'll give them to find
Speaker 2: the look. Anyway, So there was a video out and
Speaker 2: this girl got pied in the face.
Speaker 1: That hurt.
Speaker 2: But can I tell you something. The whole segment was
Speaker 2: about like how TikTok like unleashes on this woman's husband
Speaker 2: because of this awful like pie caking video. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: have we really reached the point where if you cake
Speaker 2: somebody it's like triggering to them and they're sad, and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh my god, that's abuse, Like we should
Speaker 2: calm that down. Well, here's the thing about pieing people
Speaker 2: in a face. People think that it's all like okay,
Speaker 2: so you go to a carnival or something, right, and
Speaker 2: there's like some.
Speaker 1: Adults whip cream. There's like the principles like okay, I
Speaker 1: got pied to the face for donation.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm basically I just want to know what
Speaker 2: time period you're in.
Speaker 1: We're gonna pie the principle.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get some donations, like substantisically well, a bad camp.
Speaker 1: Hope we can make it. The big ski trips coming up.
Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta pie a principle anyway, So kids
Speaker 2: know nothing about life, you know, and so they have
Speaker 2: a stack of pie tins, you know that they buy
Speaker 2: the supermarket. This is the shallow pythons and they just
Speaker 2: pray with cream in it. Okay, your natural instinct when
Speaker 2: you it's not a cake. Well, it is a thin
Speaker 2: layer of whip cream. So they go boom and they
Speaker 2: break their nose because they push so hard.
Speaker 1: It's not a they I think a bloody nose is
Speaker 1: in the pie tin. When was this? It happens all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: Oh god, this is another museum. What happens all the time?
Speaker 2: The pie cake mystery, bloody noses all around the country.
Speaker 2: It's a shallow pie tin and just a thin layer
Speaker 2: of cream. The kids go boom and it's like.
Speaker 1: Shallow. Make it to the ski trip now, Principal Duppy's hurt.
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna pay medical bills with the donations. There's
Speaker 2: no insurance of that. Fair, stupid fair. When was the
Speaker 2: last time you saw someone get pied this way?
Speaker 1: Is my question. I see it all the time. You
Speaker 1: see it all the time in one world any time?
Speaker 1: Is it pie?
Speaker 2: Whip cream pie facing. It happens all the time. I
Speaker 2: see it constantly, jam it in their face really hard.
Speaker 1: Oh, what's going on. We're checking your stay. My stage's fine.
Speaker 1: We're in the middle of talking about.
Speaker 2: The last time you saw someone get pied, so enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Wait, No, I have a question, and this is true.
Speaker 1: This is true. So you know, you know, like some
Speaker 1: principal would be in some charity, they.
Speaker 4: Okay, pie the principle in the face for a charity,
Speaker 4: you know, and so they'll get a pie tin and
Speaker 4: the kids are stupid high school kids and go boom
Speaker 4: and they break the nose because it's such as it.
Speaker 1: Did that to my one teacher in high school. Right,
Speaker 1: you think you could jam it so hard, but it's
Speaker 1: like this much whip creamy.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, did you break the principles?
Speaker 1: And I didn't do that, But I'm telling you what
Speaker 1: happens frequently.
Speaker 2: How you keep You're saying this like there's an epidemic
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: I've just broken noses. They gets a cake and I
Speaker 1: can do that. You can't do that. It's not like
Speaker 1: Steve i Oki. It's not a thing. It's it's a
Speaker 1: thin little thing.
Speaker 2: Anyway, what you this isn't This is happening all the time.
Speaker 1: Okay, it happens more than you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go with that. Okay, So a current affair,
Speaker 2: here's the here's the thing.
Speaker 1: How did we get back to the affair? You remember that?
Speaker 1: Because yeah, there was an eighties thing. It was oh cool.
Speaker 1: That thing scared me. He listened again.
Speaker 2: It sounds like space mountain.
Speaker 4: And then more poets would come on tonight on a
Speaker 4: current affair, principal gets pied with a broken nose.
Speaker 1: That that's what. That's that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really want one of our listeners if you've
Speaker 2: been pied and broken your nose gonna comment.
Speaker 1: You'll see, yeah, you'll see.
Speaker 2: Every time I say something that you think is ridiculous,
Speaker 2: they're like, oh yeah, that happened to me. But it's
Speaker 2: just the way you phrase it so like nonchalantly, like
Speaker 2: people are pyeing the prince and bloody noses in the pies.
Speaker 1: It happens every day. You think it happens every day.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: Shut your mouth, you think a principle gets pied in
Speaker 2: the faces. There's a lot of principles in this country,
Speaker 2: thousands and so every day.
Speaker 1: There's a principle walking and risking their lives their nose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because a student is going to come and.
Speaker 2: Pie that's right in the face. Do you know much
Speaker 2: rhino plastic happens because of pies.
Speaker 1: I'm done with you. Do what I've done. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is the dumbest thing you've ever said. Listen, if it
Speaker 1: crosses my mind, it's happened. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: I don't just think if things didn't happen, it's happened.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it hasn't happened.
Speaker 1: I trust me. It's just the rate at which you
Speaker 1: think a principle a day. That's three hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: five principles a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three sixty six on a leap, ear all getting
Speaker 2: their nose is broken because of a pie. Yeah yeah, look,
Speaker 2: pie and face turns bad. Nose might be broke pie
Speaker 2: and face or maybe a broken nose. Can't believe my eyes. Okay,
Speaker 2: the distance between these two so many years, there's so
Speaker 2: many of them.
Speaker 1: It happened.
Speaker 2: See again, you just because they posted videos five years apart.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it happens on the daily. No, you can't
Speaker 1: do that. Why you really.
Speaker 2: Think three hundred and sixty five principles a year get pied, yes,
Speaker 2: and break their nose. Maybe they don't get injured, but
Speaker 2: they go oh because because they hit their nose too hard.
Speaker 2: I don't think it gets broken or bloody all the time.
Speaker 2: But the bar is in hell at this point, we
Speaker 2: could just keep going. No. No, what I meant to
Speaker 2: say was they lightly touched and they go out.
Speaker 1: Dude, kids use such force because like, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get them boom, And he's like, okay, fine, fine, just
Speaker 1: admit that. It's a little bit of an exaggeration, not
Speaker 1: far fetched.
Speaker 2: Do I think two or maybe one to like one
Speaker 2: to five people a year? No, a week probably, yes,
Speaker 2: just Ferris and festivals every weekend at every part of
Speaker 2: this country.
Speaker 1: There's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of festivals.
Speaker 2: When was the last time you saw someone getting pied
Speaker 2: in the face, Like, let's just step back, okay, when
Speaker 2: was the last time last year where at my daughter's
Speaker 2: school did they break their nose? I'm not aware. I
Speaker 2: wasn't there, So that's one but I bet I got
Speaker 2: injured before that. When was the last time a.
Speaker 1: Year before that? Because every year at school has.
Speaker 2: Anyone broken their nose at any of these assembly I'm
Speaker 2: going to say probably, I don't recall, but I know
Speaker 2: it's happened.
Speaker 1: I kill so many videos, there's so many videos. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: should we just stop? We done this? I am just.
Speaker 2: What if you can think it, it happened. That's why
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. So many dips that could fly, so
Speaker 2: many dipped the balls. So did someone ever fly, yes,
Speaker 2: with a jet pack, with a jet pack, yeah, yes's right,
Speaker 2: but I'm thinking that someone flapped their hands enough to fly.
Speaker 1: No, that's impossible.
Speaker 2: Breaking a nose from a pan is not, and either
Speaker 2: is dipping balls in the coffee pot, because someone's done
Speaker 2: it the.
Speaker 1: Way you're pray. If I think it, it's true, it's happened. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I could think it, it happened.
Speaker 2: That's what you said, Just like that, If I think it.
Speaker 1: It happened. Okay, Well, I mean a lot of things.
Speaker 1: If I think it, it happened a lot of things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pie in the face boo, right, I mean
Speaker 2: things that are impossible, could not have happened.
Speaker 1: But any of these things are possible, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean you're not wrong there, it's just
Speaker 2: again the way you're phrasing it is so out like insane.
Speaker 2: I just I don't do you like my vintage Snicker shirt?
Speaker 2: Of course I've had the shirt forever? You know what
Speaker 2: I'm realizing now because and I totally I'm guilty. Like
Speaker 2: I'll look at my Facebook memories from like ten years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll oh my god, I just wore that shirt the
Speaker 2: other day. You know, I have hundreds of T shirts.
Speaker 1: Maybe you should give them up for a donation.
Speaker 2: You're right, But my problem is is I'm teetering now
Speaker 2: with between large and extra large again because some of
Speaker 2: the extra larges are a little bit smaller. So I
Speaker 2: can't get rid of all my extra large shirts. I
Speaker 2: don't anticipate ever going over two hundred pounds again, I'm
Speaker 2: getting close. But by the way, so if I get
Speaker 2: back to two hundred, do I have to give you
Speaker 2: back the gift card that I won for getting to
Speaker 2: one ninety. I don't know, was it a stipulation or
Speaker 2: is that things done? No? All right, I mean, if
Speaker 2: you spent a gift card. Why would I need the
Speaker 2: gift card back? Right, I'm trying my like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: because now that the weather's nice, I'm gonna start bike
Speaker 2: riding again. I might do that that twenty five mile
Speaker 2: bike ride again? Would you do that? I don't really
Speaker 2: love riding bikes, but I'll try it for you.
Speaker 1: You don't just try a twenty five mile bike ride? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I.
Speaker 2: Could do it really, Yeah, all right, I don't love
Speaker 2: bike riding, but I am very much persistent where I
Speaker 2: will not give up on anything. You have to wear
Speaker 2: the right underwear of your balls. I know why I
Speaker 2: hate bike riding.
Speaker 1: It rips, just.
Speaker 2: Hurts, ouch like sometimes I'll forget. I'll I don't wear
Speaker 2: boxers that much anymore. I'll forget. Sometimes I'll just wear
Speaker 2: a pair of boxers and they're like boom boom boom
Speaker 2: boom boom, And by the time you get back, the
Speaker 2: vibration is real and it hurts. It feels like blue balls,
Speaker 2: like it got punched in the balls. It really does,
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding what it does.
Speaker 1: Boom boom boom.
Speaker 2: Well they do because the seat is like this, and
Speaker 2: they fall, they go to either side of the seat.
Speaker 2: If you're not, if they're not held in, you need
Speaker 2: like good briefs, boxer briefs.
Speaker 1: You do need boxer briefs.
Speaker 2: You gotta get the ones. You gotta get the mac well,
Speaker 2: the ones that has the pouch, oh that holds it in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're just saying that's why it doesn't boom boom boom, Right,
Speaker 2: that's why the bikers wear those the biker shorts. Yeah
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, Okay, Uh, we're gonna go.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening. We hope this was everything
Speaker 1: you wanted it to be. In more, I don't think
Speaker 1: it was. I think so.
Speaker 2: I mean, we learned a lot today. I don't think
Speaker 2: we learned anything. We learned about in the face and
Speaker 2: how hundreds of teachers a year are harmed by pie incidents.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you guaranteed at least one of our listeners
Speaker 2: will d M comment.
Speaker 1: But whatever I say, oh my god, I broke my nose.
Speaker 2: But one, I just need to go back to it
Speaker 2: because it was that insane, right, three hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: five people a year. Okay, I'm not saying quite that many,
Speaker 2: but it is. It is more, and it happened to
Speaker 2: back it happens more than you think it doesn't. Okay,
Speaker 2: how about that it's not as rare as you think
Speaker 2: it is. I just want an entire segment of you
Speaker 2: on each show now where you throw one of these
Speaker 2: outlandish opinions in there. I bet you there's people who
Speaker 2: use a fork and accidentally trip on the fork and
Speaker 2: accidentally stam themselves with the fork. There's probably at least
Speaker 2: how many people use foks everybody. There's probably thousands of
Speaker 2: incidents a day. I bet there's a Facebook support group
Speaker 2: of people that have broken the notion from Pie in
Speaker 2: the face. Oh my god, Yeah, Oh my god, I can't.
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna go. Thank you for listening to
Speaker 2: this exciting episode of Bold Chat. It's the sister podcast
Speaker 2: to Serial Killers. We'll hav an all new serial Killers
Speaker 2: on Monday with a brand new Cheerios flavor. God, you're
Speaker 2: excited for that.
Speaker 1: So amped.
Speaker 2: I didn't even barely keep myself fish. I didn't even
Speaker 2: know this one was coming out.
Speaker 1: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: So it's on the way, ALRIGHTY follow us on all socials.
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Speaker 2: nothing about bollchat on that website, by the way. Nothing Okay,
Speaker 2: I think it. Maybe there should be a bolchat tab.
Speaker 2: Maybe upload the picture of your broken nose here, you know,
Speaker 2: and we'll Yeah, please send us your bloody nose pictures.
Speaker 2: We'd love to see them, especially this one. Who the
Speaker 2: minuye he sees blood? No, but I'm telling you, you know,
Speaker 2: you can just imagine you opening up every attachment. But
Speaker 2: I do like watching vomit, which is weird. You and
Speaker 2: I are very different there. You like you're paralyzed by vomit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's funny to watch.
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't smell it, but I can think.
Speaker 1: It's like on Family Guy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like, I think that is hilarious, so hilarious.
Speaker 2: What do you get skiped out by cartoon vomit too
Speaker 2: very vocal today? That's wait, is cartoon screaming cartoon vomit
Speaker 2: skive you out as well?
Speaker 1: No? Is that funny to you? Or that's gross?
Speaker 2: Like the Family Guy clip I know you're talking about
Speaker 2: made me laugh. I like, uncontrollably laugh from that, no
Speaker 2: matter how many times I see it. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: Spewing.
Speaker 2: Vomiting makes me makes me laugh. I just don't know why.
Speaker 2: Who knows, But I don't like to vomit because it's painful. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I agree, it hurts.
Speaker 1: A good vomit really hurts.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we'll see you Monday with an all new
Speaker 2: serial Killers and hopefully Wednesday with a ball chat.
Speaker 1: Who knows?
Speaker 2: Alrighty, enjoy the rest of your week. Yes, enjoy the
Speaker 2: nice weather if you're on the East Coast.
Speaker 1: Because East coast is the only place that has nice weather.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, California has been kind of rainy.
Speaker 2: I think the whole country is kind of in the
Speaker 2: mode of nice weather at this point. Oh okay, do
Speaker 2: you think?
Speaker 1: No? And maybe when they.
Speaker 2: Listen to us, and you know, I don't know, Siberia,
Speaker 2: it's cold there that Russia. Siberia, Russia, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just become mushing, mushing dogs. Is that Siberia?
Speaker 1: I think?
Speaker 2: So? Yeah, Well, it's been great seeing you all. See
Speaker 2: up a great rest of your day Monday. What if
Speaker 2: they're not listening during the day. What if someone in
Speaker 2: whose Bekistan is listening at nighttime?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What if they just turned off that HP nine thousand commercial.
Speaker 2: Now they're listening to all right, have a great day.
Speaker 2: Would hashipor also clean up vomit and blood. It would
Speaker 2: just make it clear. So we'll see when we see us.
Speaker 2: Say Clink, Andrew, Clink, you were crazy today.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. It came over me.