1 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum. And today we're 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: talking about food banks and pantries and soup kitchens. Yes, 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: because that is something that I'm sure a lot of 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: us have been thinking about as we're all quarantining, as 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Lauren and I are coming to you from our home 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: closet studio. Uh yeah, yeah, it's It's been on my 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: mind a lot lately, UM, in this our time of 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: coronavirus UM, because a number of restaurants around Atlanta, you know, 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: have closed down to the public perhaps obviously, but opened 11 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: their kitchens to take out and not just public takeout, 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: but like specifically for service industry workers who have been 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: laid off during all of these shutdowns. UM and and 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: for free or for whatever people can afford to pay. 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: UM and pular places like like if you're familiar with 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: the Atlanta restaurants seeing at all, places like Staple House 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: and Brick Store Pub UM, that could just as easily 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: be trying to, you know, make money from takeout and delivery, 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: but they're not. Also this this organization UM started up 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: called the Atlanta Artist Relief Fund and they're raising money 21 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: and like working with local chefs to create and distribute 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: both frozen and ready to eat meals to two workers 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: in the arts who have also lost their streams of revenue. 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: And also organizations like the Atlanta Community Food Bank are 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: like figuring out how to serve larger segments of the 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: population and do so safely with more minimal person to 27 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: person contact. Um. And you know this isn't just in Atlanta, 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: of course. You know, these these efforts are happening all 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: over the country, all over the world. UM. And so yeah, 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: we wanted to talk about a little bit about the 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: history of these kind of efforts. Yeah. Absolutely, it's really 32 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: really wonderful in these trying times to see people trying 33 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: to figure out the best way to help other people. Yes, yes, 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: that is one of those beautiful silver lining Uh. You 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: know Fred Rogers look for the helpers kind of kind 36 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: of things. And uh, I will say we have talked 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: a little bit about the sort of thing before, um 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: in about food access and food security that is UM 39 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: in episode six of our New Orleans mini series UM 40 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: we we featured heavily in that this wonderful interview with 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: the excellent Pepper Bowen Um, who's Who's a food and 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: water attorney working in the New Orleans area. So for 43 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more on kind of the legal side 44 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: of things and food and security side of things. Yeah, 45 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: check out check out our full interview with her and 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: that that episode for the mini series. Yes, she is 47 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: a delight. Oh my gosh, such a delight. Uh m hm. 48 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: But all right, let's get to our question. Mm hmm. 49 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: Food banks, food entries, soup kitchens. What are they? Well? Uh, 50 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: food banks of pantries are organizations that that purchase or 51 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: collect donations of food from the world's food supply chain 52 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: and distribute it to people who are experiencing food and security, 53 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: meaning that that those people do do not at all 54 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: times have the money and or ability to obtain and 55 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: or knowledge to to create enough nutritious food in order 56 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: to engage in like active and healthy lifestyles. Um. So yeah, yeah, 57 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: that's that's food banks and pantries. Uh. Soup kitchens, it's 58 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: it's a somewhat antiquated term at this point, but um, 59 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: but it generally means like a kitchen that prepares and 60 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: distributes cooked foods to people who are experiencing food and security. Um. 61 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: A is soup, you know, being a dish that can 62 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: be easily stretched to feed many people with relatively few 63 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: ingredients and like relatively low energy use has traditionally been 64 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: a staple of these things, so hence hence the term. 65 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: And you know, food insecurity is a global problem, even 66 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: during generally good economic times. UM. Around the world, as 67 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: of a little just a little bit under eleven percent 68 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: of human people experienced food insecurity. That's about one in 69 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: nine people on the planet, like eight hundred and twenty 70 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: million of US. And in the United States as of ten, 71 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: that percentage was actually a little bit higher. UM. Thirty 72 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: seven point two million Americans lived in food and secure 73 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: households that year. UM. That's about eleven point four percent 74 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: of US. And there are all kinds of reasons why 75 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: this happens. I mean, poverty obviously, but also living in 76 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: places where nutritious food is not sold and not having 77 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: the time or money to devote to traveling to obtain 78 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: nutritious food, and yeah, just like not having received that 79 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: the education from family or from community about how to 80 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: turn available nutritious ingredients into like palatable, healthy meals. And 81 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: there are a lot of reasons why these things happen um, 82 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: but a huge part of it has traditionally been food 83 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: waste throughout the supply chain um, especially in developed and 84 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: generally wealthy countries like the United States. According to Feeding America, 85 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: which is this network of food banks, some seventy two 86 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: billion pounds of food goes to waste here every year. 87 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: That's some twenty five of the food that has grown 88 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: and processed and transported. So a lot of the work 89 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: that these banks and networks of banks do has just 90 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: been reaching out to farmers and producers and grocers and 91 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: restaurants and helping them donate product that otherwise would have 92 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: gone to waste. And we have discussed previously another episodes 93 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: the legal issues around some of that and how we are, 94 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: at least here in the United States, working to change 95 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: some of those things that have prevented donating some food 96 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: in some cases. Feeding America has two hundred food banks 97 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: across the United States that provides sustenance to over forty 98 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: million people. And just as that, I found that's interesting 99 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: and it will probably make more sense when we get 100 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 1: into the history. Fifty of the three thousand facilities serving 101 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: the homeless United States are affiliated with churches. Yeah, yeah, 102 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: a lot of these, especially historically, a lot of these 103 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: UH grassroots organizations have come up through religious affiliation and 104 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: UH and that does bring us to some of the 105 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: history of how these types of organizations got started. But 106 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: first it brings us to a quick break for a 107 00:06:49,000 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, 108 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: thank you. So the history of soup kitchens in America 109 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: is also a history of America's economic crashes, downturns, and depressions, 110 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: and conversations around xenophobia, capitalism, and who deserves help. The 111 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: first American soup kitchens were a byproduct of the Panic 112 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: of eighteen seventy three, which was a devastating six year 113 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: economic depression. The idea for soup kitchens may have come 114 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: from Irish immigrants who remembered kitchens many Quaker run providing 115 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 1: hot soups during the Great Potato Famine of eighteen forty five, 116 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,119 Speaker 1: and in eighty seven, the UK passed the Temporary Relief Act, 117 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: also known as the Soup Kitchen Act. It decreed that 118 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: local relief groups could collect taxes from Irish landowners and 119 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: business people to pay for food. One man sometimes gets 120 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: credit for opening the first soup kitchen. Benjamin Thompson a 121 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: k a. Benjamin Count von Rumford. That I do too, 122 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: I do too. So this dude was born in the 123 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: United States in three but was forced to flee Britain 124 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: after accusations arose that he was a British loyalist. And 125 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: he went on to do all kinds of things, and 126 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: the government of Bavaria even granted him a Count of 127 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: the Holy Roman Empire title, and he went with the 128 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: name of the town he was from, Rumford, which is great, Benjamin, 129 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: Count von Rumford. I feel like we need to come 130 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: up with where account Well, well, I need to come 131 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: up with some count names for I mean, if we 132 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,239 Speaker 1: go by by that formula, I guess I'm like Countess 133 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: Vaughan Cleveland. I love it, Countess van Cleveland, honored to 134 00:08:52,160 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: be in your presence. So of relevance here. Of all 135 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: the things, this guy did his project to end Munichs 136 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: beggar problem by providing work and food for the poor. 137 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: And this was at a time in Europe where food 138 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: prices were high and poverty was rampant due to things 139 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: like bad harvest, high levels of unemployment, slow trade, and wars. 140 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: He set up workhouses and for lunch, provided, in his 141 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: words quote very rich soup of peas and barley, mixed 142 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: with cuttings of fine white bread and a piece of 143 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: excellent rye bread weighing seven ounces, which last they commonly 144 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: put in their pockets and carried home for their Yeah. 145 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: He was he was working throughout a few decades, right 146 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: right around the turn of the century. There and and 147 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: published this book of essays about why and how to 148 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: help feed the poor in seventeen nine. His style of 149 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: soup kitchen spread throughout Europe and later to the United States. Yeah. 150 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: His his sup recipe and and iterations thereof became known 151 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: as Rumford soup, And especially in the early eighteen hundreds 152 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: that the recipe and kitchens distributing it popped up all over. 153 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: His work really coincided with all of the social and 154 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: political and food supply upheaval of the American and French 155 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: revolutions and a number of other wars around Europe. Um 156 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: Like in eighteen twelve, Napoleon Bonaparte ordered two million servings 157 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: of Rumford style soup be distributed to the masses every 158 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: day in Massachusetts. In eighteen o three, the Salem Register reported, 159 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: quote the economics soups are well known, and the name 160 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: of Count Rumford is immortal. You're starting to sound more 161 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: and more like a vampire. I'm like, wait a minute, 162 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: wait a minute, he's like he's like hanging out in Bavaria. Uh, 163 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: he's account now and immortal apparently and immortal. We are 164 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: are onto this guy. He was also an early adopter 165 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: of the potato when most Europeans still viewed potatoes with suspicion, 166 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: and he invented things like a drip coffee maker, a 167 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: pressure cooker, and the first kitchen range for commercial use, 168 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: the cast iron Rumpered stove. There's even a brand of 169 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: baking powdern named after him. Yes, that rumpered um all 170 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: was not great with these workhouses, though, we should say 171 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: he was pretty judgmental of those who didn't have jobs, 172 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: and child labor was a fairly common thing at them, 173 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: although some offered schooling. Yeah, you know in the evenings 174 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: after the kids had finished working could stay behind for 175 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: some lessons too. So that's fine. Your tone suggests otherwise 176 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: my tone, Yes, your tone Gosh, researching this guy made 177 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: me miss my Dungeons and Dragons character gigs fontank, I 178 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: continually miss your dungeons dragon's character Gigspon Tank. Although she 179 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: made my life and that of our fellow characters significantly 180 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: less easy at many times. I'm not going to say 181 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: more difficult, more interesting, for sure, but less less easy. 182 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: She was a delight, but not she definitely kept everyone 183 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: on their toes. That is accurate. One day, maybe she 184 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: will return. I certainly hope, so, I certainly hope. So 185 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: I just want to clarify I only am reminded of 186 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: her because of the name, not because she was a 187 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: terrible child labor proponent. Just the name. That's all. Good point, 188 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: good point. Yes, important, it's an important tip. Thank you. Yes, yes, 189 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: you're welcome now you know, are about my very important 190 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: dungeons and dragons, Carrocter gosh um and and one one 191 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: note before we leave Von Rumford behind this um. Apparently 192 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: Rumford soup is still served at some October Fest celebrations 193 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: over in Germany. Oh really yeah, If any listeners have 194 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: any pictures or experiences to share, please always yeah, yes, 195 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: but okay, back to the history. Yeah, in a man 196 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: named Joseph McPhee, you wanted to raise money to feed 197 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: Christmas Dinner to the poor, and to raise funds you 198 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: put out a soup bucket on Market Street, captioned keep 199 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: the pot boiling, and you raise enough from this to 200 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,359 Speaker 1: provide one thousand people meals. To this day, the Salvation 201 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: Army uses the red bucket reminiscent of a soup bucket 202 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: to raise money, and they cite this story as the 203 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: reason why I had always wondered about that. I had to. 204 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: It was one of those things that kind of always, 205 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, went u huh, and then immediately forgot. But 206 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: now we know. The number of soup kitchens soared during 207 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: the Great Depression beginning in nineteen nine. And in the beginning, 208 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: most of these soup kitchens were extensions of private charities 209 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: and churches. But as the situation worsened um for instance, 210 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: by nineteen thirty two, about twenty five percent of Americans 211 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: labor force was unemployed, that's twelve million people, the federal 212 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: and state government stepped in running some of their own 213 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: in cities and towns all across the country. As a 214 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: part of that, President Hoover authorized four million dollars for 215 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: state government so that they could get more soup kitchens 216 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: up and operating. These places did primarily serve bread and 217 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: soup since soup was like you said, Lauren, it was 218 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: cheap and water could be added to stretch out supply 219 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: to meet demand if necessary. A bulk of the soups 220 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: consisted of boiled vegetables and more. Well off people were 221 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: encouraged to grow charity gardens and donate the produce to 222 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: their local soup kitchen ends, but some did serve other 223 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: items like oatmeal muffins, peanut butter sandwiches, or even pies 224 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: and cobblers. Some of these kitchens did not have a 225 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: space for eating, so people would line up with their 226 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: own buckets for food. Many only opened once a day 227 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: for one meal, but some provided three meals a day. 228 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: Some only opened during the winter. Some charge of small fee, 229 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: others didn't. Most of the volunteers were women. Okay, once again, 230 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: we need to talk about al Capone. I love this. 231 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: The last time we got to talk about al Capone 232 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: was it all the way back in our food expiry 233 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: Dates episode? I can't remember he's come up again. I 234 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: think he might have come up in our types of milk. 235 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: Oh sure, oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, I know he definitely 236 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: would have. I mean that makes sense because that is 237 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: the type of expiration date that he was most personally 238 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: involved with. But yeah, Al Capone, al Capon in the 239 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: soup kitchen section. Okay, so yes, we're talking about the 240 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: gangster public enemy number one. So Capone knew he had 241 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: a bit of an image problem, all right, just a 242 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: little one, just a just a tiny bit mm hmmm. 243 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: So to combat it, he opened what some believed to 244 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: be one of America's first soup kitchens in Chicago and 245 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: nineteen anyone who was unemployed could get three meals a 246 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: day at Capone's soup kitchen, and it fed about two 247 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: thousand two people a day at the cost of about 248 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: three hundred dollars, which for him, I think I read 249 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: somewhere he was making twenty five thousand dollars a day 250 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: at one point and like in nine money. Yeah what, 251 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: So for him this wasn't that big a deal. But 252 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: also he probably shook down businesses for it. So there's that. 253 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: For breakfast, they served sweet rolls and coffee, soup and 254 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: bread for lunch, and bread and coffee for dinner. For Thanksgiving, 255 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: a nineteen thirty five thousand people were served. Mary Borden 256 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: wrote for Harper's Magazine that Capone was quote an ambidextrous 257 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: giant who kills with one hand and feeds with the other. 258 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: And she made sure to point out that the line 259 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: to gain entry into his soup kitchen frequently extended well 260 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: past the police station where they were trying to get 261 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: this guy. It operated into the nineteen fifties, and it 262 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: was successful in the in terms of helping his image. 263 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: It really did. He was kind of cultivating this Robin 264 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: Hood esque type thing, and a lot of people that 265 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: were interviewed at the soup kitchen we're like, yeah, I 266 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: love this guy. Yeah, good guy. Yeah, giving us food, 267 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: keep keeping our babies safe with us safer milk. Yeah, 268 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: I love him. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. That's 269 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: the al Capona side. UM. A little bit later, uh, 270 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: during and unless having to do with gangsters, I'm sorry, uh. 271 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: During World War Two in the United Kingdom, UM, the 272 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: Women's Volunteer Service for Civil Defense began preparing and delivering 273 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: meals to neighbors and to uh to to service people. 274 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: And this was around the time that you know, the 275 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: Blitz was happening, and so a lot of people were 276 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: either out of their homes or you know, unable to 277 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: to use their kitchens or you know in in in 278 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: a number that there were a number of social disarray 279 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: kind of things going on. Yeah, And so they began 280 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: doing this in nineteen thirty nine, and this became known 281 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: as meals on wheels. Similar programs would open around the 282 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: world after the War UM and in many places they 283 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: were developed specifically as programs to to help feed senior 284 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: citizens and other people unable to get out of the 285 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: home for whatever reason. Rights In the late nineteen sixties, 286 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: a man named John van Hingel out of Phoenix, Arizona, 287 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: came up with the idea for food banking. The story 288 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: goes after retiring from the business world, Van Hngel devoted 289 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: a lot of his time to volunteering at a local 290 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: soup kitchen. He met a woman who regularly dug through 291 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: grocery store garbage bins looking for discarded food to feed 292 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: her children. She told Van Hingel she thought there needed 293 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: to be something like a bank where food that was 294 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: going to be discarded could instead be stored for future use. 295 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: Van Hengel took that idea and ran with it. Soon after, 296 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven, he opened St. Mary's Food Bank 297 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: in Phoenix, and this was America's first food bank. They 298 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: distributed two seventy five thousand pounds of food in their 299 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: first year of operation, and not only that, but others 300 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: took note and by nineteen eighteen cities had their own 301 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: food banks. In response, Van Hengel established a national network 302 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: for food banks, and this led to the creation of 303 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: Second Harvest in nineteen seventy nine, which was renamed in 304 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: America in two thousand eight. Related the Food Stamp Act 305 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: PAST in nineteen seventy seven and the Temporary Emergency Food 306 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: Assistance Act PAST in nineteen eighty three, allowing for any 307 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: surplus produce to be distributed to those in need. UM. 308 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: Also in nineteen eight three, Venhangel established Food Banking Incorporated, 309 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: which is now the Global Food Banking Network, which is 310 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: a international nonprofit that that helps create and support food 311 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 1: banks around the world. The two tho eight recessions saw 312 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: another spiking demand for these services, a spike that we 313 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: are again seeing now. Yeah, you know, current events are 314 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: particularly disruptive to the food supply and how people access it. 315 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: UH related programs like the National School Lunch Program, which 316 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: normally feeds up to thirty million kids every school day, 317 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: aren't operating. UM food banks and soup kitchens depend on 318 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: huge networks of volunteers, but with safe at home policies 319 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: and place and you know, just like informed precautions being 320 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: taken way, fewer volunteers and in some cases zero volunteers 321 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: are able to help out at these places. It's also 322 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: making it harder for people in need to go out 323 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: in order to obtain supplies. Um. You know, meanwhile, fundraising efforts, 324 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: like normal fundraisers like Atlanta's Hunger Walk and Run are 325 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: having to cancel. That event in twenty nineteen generated eight 326 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in revenue, and this year it's just gone 327 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: because it was supposed to happen in the middle of March. Yeah, 328 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I hate to end on a downer, 329 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: and it's I mean, it is very concerning. And I 330 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: was saying to Annie before we started rolling, like, oh man, like, 331 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: can we do can we do an episode that has 332 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: nothing to do with current events next? Because oh yeck, 333 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: I don't think I can take it. Um. But you know, 334 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: it's again like like silver linings, look for the helpers, 335 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: Like there are so many amazing humans and organizations of 336 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: humans that are doing really great stuff out there right now. Um, 337 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: So you know, after you finish this episode, give a 338 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: quick google, UM see what organizations are operating in your 339 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: area and how you either might be able to help 340 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: or how you might be able to receive help from them. UM. 341 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: You know, these folks are working so hard to provide 342 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: solutions UM like like making takeaway and delivery boxes of 343 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: supplies UM in order to help minimize interpersonal contact at 344 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: food banks. Uh. Some celebrities are giving these big awesome donations. 345 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: Restaurants are opening up for those free meals. Our former 346 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: corporate overlords System one. They set up a go fund 347 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: me to match donations to the Atlantic Community Food Bank. 348 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: Stuff like that is happening all over the place, and 349 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: you know it's it's up to all of us to 350 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: seek those resources out and help them or or or 351 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: get help. And there is nothing wrong with with with 352 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: needing help right now. No, no, definitely not. And we 353 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: would love if listeners, if you have an awesome resource 354 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: you think we should shout out send it our way. 355 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: We would love to. Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, please do. 356 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: We would love to give shout outs UM on on 357 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: social media or or on the podcast. However, however we 358 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: can help, Yes, yes, we are here for you. Oh 359 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: oh we are yeah um and uh yeah yes, speaking 360 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: of getting in touch with us, we do have some 361 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: listener mail for you. But first that about wraps up 362 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: what we've got to say about food banks. So so 363 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: first we've got one more quick break for a word 364 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, 365 00:23:51,680 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: thank you, and we're back with listener mailh my god, hug. 366 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: Oh this first one is so good. It is from 367 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Secret Mermaid. She wrote, I'm a burlesque dancer and one 368 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: of my more regular acts as a classic tease, but 369 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: as an asparagus. I thought you might enjoy some photos 370 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: of what a sparkly burlesque asparagus looks like. We did, 371 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: we really did. I call the act asparagus. I would 372 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: love if you did an episode on asparagus one day, 373 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: if the Burlesque Tribute didn't give it away. It's a 374 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: favorite vegetable of mine. I mean, oh my gosh, I mean, 375 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: first of all, it is like it is currently asparagus season. Yes, 376 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: any food related burlesque we always want to hear about 377 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: and see photos or video from. If you would like 378 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: to send it our way, I don't know, I don't 379 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: know if we ever talked about it any But I 380 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of friends in the burlesque community, and 381 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of the art form and the 382 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: talent and the costum ng and I will say, Secret Mermaid, 383 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: your asparagus crown is a gorgeous and queenly crown. And 384 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: I adore it. I too, everything about it. I love it. Yes, 385 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: I love it oh so much so so yes and 386 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: and yes, and Amber wrote furloughed Bartender here. I couldn't 387 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: help it laugh at the old Timing article about how 388 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: the ladies only eat milkshakes with spoons so as to 389 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: avoid the dreaded mustache. A strange phenomenon these days is 390 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: gendered use of straws. A lot of ladies ask for 391 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: them to avoid smudging their lipstick. As someone who was 392 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: bad at makeup support them. I don't want to be 393 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: smudgy either. What's always funny to me, though, is that 394 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: some men will not drink from straws because of that association. 395 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: On more occasions than I can count, men have ordered 396 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: drinks in quote less girly glasses. Makes you wonder how 397 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: these guys drink their milkshakes. Indeed, that is that is 398 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: something I hadn't thought about. Maybe I just don't. I 399 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: don't think I've seen this behavior before, but I can 400 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: totally picture some dudes associating yeah, straw drinking with like 401 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: feminity or with sexuality. We actually, a long time ago, 402 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: back when I did video for stephone ever told you 403 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: the other show that I work on, Um, we did 404 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: an episode on the gendering of straws. All right, cool, cool, 405 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean uncool, That's that's just fine. I mean, you 406 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: do you? I mean, like, do you know, like live 407 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: your gender however you want to. I suppose, but I 408 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: don't feel like straws should be part of that necessarily. 409 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I think I think that's unnecessary. Yes, but here we are. Yeah, 410 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: well there there you go. 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